This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2016-11-02 15:56:36] rapidtrades : i think the company is in the Seychelles tho
[2016-11-02 15:57:30] wurstgelee : registered there, yep
[2016-11-02 15:57:53] BitMEX_Wally : HDR Global Trading Limited, 2nd Floor, Capital City, Independence Avenue P.O. Box 1008, Victoria, Mahe, Republic of Seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:57:57] sally : Im waiting for a mod to confirm a registered address. I would like to discuss in person as preference
[2016-11-02 15:58:04] sally : perfect
[2016-11-02 15:58:07] sleger : sally: its just above
[2016-11-02 15:58:19] rapidtrades : yr gonna fly to HK for 1 btc?
[2016-11-02 15:58:20] sleger : take your ticket to seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:58:28] rapidtrades : but they're not there
[2016-11-02 15:58:32] sleger : rapidtrades: address in seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:58:33] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Is this where you guys will be or is it just a drop?
[2016-11-02 15:58:34] rapidtrades : oh wait...
[2016-11-02 15:58:46] BitMEX_Wally : sally: I don't think the PO Box will fit both of us in for a meeting
[2016-11-02 15:58:50] sleger : sally: feel free to chat to their mailbox
[2016-11-02 15:58:54] rapidtrades : wtf...does he wants to kill them over 1 btc
[2016-11-02 15:59:02] rapidtrades : this is getting creepy
[2016-11-02 15:59:09] sleger : rapidtrades: nigerians are crazy
[2016-11-02 15:59:11] sally : rapidtrades: dont be ridiculous
[2016-11-02 15:59:17] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: offices in HK right?
[2016-11-02 15:59:29] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well can we schedule a meeting?
[2016-11-02 15:59:35] rapidtrades : maybe he is in HK idk
[2016-11-02 15:59:40] habibi : sally: what if i tell there is no law protecting ur ass... and its great?
[2016-11-02 15:59:51] lilop : Explain what's going on? What will happen on Friday?
[2016-11-02 16:00:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Do I need to come to hong kong or seychelles ?
[2016-11-02 16:00:26] sleger : beaches are nicer in seychelles
[2016-11-02 16:00:32] sally : sleger: true
[2016-11-02 16:00:34] sleger : bitches on the other hand
[2016-11-02 16:01:26] uzitgc : is there a way to check if there was a liquidation event on ZEC?
[2016-11-02 16:01:36] sally : Ive got the week off and I want to check out the place and while im there I will discuss this matter
[2016-11-02 16:02:02] BitMEX_Wally : uzitgc: They get published on the liquidation feed and the @REKT bot posts them to the trollbox
[2016-11-02 16:02:13] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So where in Hong Kong is your office?
[2016-11-02 16:02:22] uzitgc : thanks, where can I check the liquidation feed?
[2016-11-02 16:02:42] rapidtrades : sally: 'Titties4bitcoin' strip club
[2016-11-02 16:02:54] rapidtrades : that's where they usually hang out
[2016-11-02 16:03:02] public username 321 : actually i have to say it's true nothing was really changed and a move in the market like this is actually really unexpected after giving it a further look. Settlement is still the same, right?
[2016-11-02 16:03:15] BitMEX_Wally : uzitgc: You can subscribe like this: `wscat -c "wss://www.bitmex.com/realtime?subscribe=liquidation"`
[2016-11-02 16:03:28] BitMEX_Wally : Or query outstanding liquidation orders via the REST API
[2016-11-02 16:03:36] uzitgc : thank you
[2016-11-02 16:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : public username 321: We have not announcement the settlement index yet but it is likely to be Poloniex. We will confirm around 1 December
[2016-11-02 16:04:52] rapidtrades : it will be polo 90%...unless some chinese exchange picks up ZEC
[2016-11-02 16:04:54] public username 321 : BitMEX_Wally: all good but next time you do something like this give at least 5 days prior notice via email. Thanks!
[2016-11-02 16:04:54] sally : BitMEX_Wally: What are you hiding? Give me your hong kong office
[2016-11-02 16:05:19] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Come to Beijing TechCrunch next week and I'll buy you a beer
[2016-11-02 16:05:47] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: u sure cost of beer will not exceed ur earnings in fees from him?
[2016-11-02 16:05:57] TwinnerD : habibi: lit
[2016-11-02 16:06:02] BitMEX_Wally : I think @DangerandPlay might come for a beer too
[2016-11-02 16:07:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I will search that now but I still want to know HK office
[2016-11-02 16:07:12] rapidtrades : next week's headline ''Three people killed at Beijing TechCrunch by crazed woman''
[2016-11-02 16:07:21] blacktuesday : zec bids at the front of the book
[2016-11-02 16:07:29] blacktuesday : lets get this up to 1.0
[2016-11-02 16:07:33] habibi : "by sally woman"
[2016-11-02 16:07:44] blacktuesday : market buy zec
[2016-11-02 16:07:54] sally : habibi: funny thing is sallys got a dick
[2016-11-02 16:07:55] BitMEX_Wally : sally: We do not have a HK office. We hang out in Pure Yoga most of the time though
[2016-11-02 16:08:16] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Yeah I read the article
[2016-11-02 16:08:43] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So we do a yoga session and then some boxing lol
[2016-11-02 16:08:59] habibi : Sally got a dick sounds like a bad cover of "jenny's got a gun"
[2016-11-02 16:09:36] blacktuesday : butthurt is a real thing...
[2016-11-02 16:09:46] TwinnerD : sally: come and visit me in seychelles. we can checkout their PO box together
[2016-11-02 16:09:54] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-02 16:10:08] sally : BitMEX_Wally: which location?
[2016-11-02 16:10:20] sally : TwinnerD: get my flights and im all in
[2016-11-02 16:10:41] TwinnerD : you made 25k, you can spare the 1.5k
[2016-11-02 16:11:07] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: is there any secured external access to multi sig keys in case any guys of u will be lost?
[2016-11-02 16:11:31] blacktuesday : "lost" lol
[2016-11-02 16:11:43] rapidtrades : afaik the chip is embedded in their head @habibi
[2016-11-02 16:11:59] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: doesnt sound very secure
[2016-11-02 16:12:06] sally : Which one wally http://www.pure-yoga.com/hongkong/locations
[2016-11-02 16:12:32] rapidtrades : the one with the trannies
[2016-11-02 16:12:40] BitMEX_Wally : sally: What rapidtrades said
[2016-11-02 16:12:49] sally : rapidtrades: I like trannies
[2016-11-02 16:12:57] rapidtrades : ur weird
[2016-11-02 16:13:08] blacktuesday : so... how about those bitcoin markets?
[2016-11-02 16:13:36] rapidtrades : where's the geek
[2016-11-02 16:13:43] rapidtrades : altehrious or whatever
[2016-11-02 16:14:00] rapidtrades : bet we will hear more QQ from him
[2016-11-02 16:14:03] sally : BitMEX_Wally: No serious now. Your inability to provide a location is actually concerning me
[2016-11-02 16:14:34] habibi : who cares about ur concerns
[2016-11-02 16:15:46] BitMEX_Wally : sally: What is your country of residence?
[2016-11-02 16:15:58] BitMEX_Wally : Your IP address is from a different country from your claimed one, so I have my concerns
[2016-11-02 16:16:40] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Wally: I seriously doubt you can make any assumption based on an IP address (VPN ...)
[2016-11-02 16:16:41] rapidtrades : so many concerns all around
[2016-11-02 16:17:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I route all traffic as standard
[2016-11-02 16:17:31] rapidtrades : wtf does that mean
[2016-11-02 16:17:36] habibi : sally: what are u trying to hide? is this a vote for Hillary? or a Trump?
[2016-11-02 16:17:51] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Im actually a nice guy and I would love to do some yoga
[2016-11-02 16:18:26] rapidtrades : sally: u should be buying bitmex guys a beer after they bailed u out
[2016-11-02 16:18:31] Cheese : president camacho
[2016-11-02 16:18:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah I don't like the sound of the boxing though
[2016-11-02 16:18:52] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Lol none of that Im just trolling
[2016-11-02 16:19:15] blacktuesday : trolltrace.com
[2016-11-02 16:19:25] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Unless you guys enjoy that sort of thing in a professional way
[2016-11-02 16:19:47] sally : like a gym session
[2016-11-02 16:20:04] AudibleScience : sally: oh so you're a bloke!
[2016-11-02 16:20:14] sally : AudibleScience: no. Sally with a dick
[2016-11-02 16:20:19] habibi : sally: Satoshi in 2011 claimed that bitmex is the most professional bitcoin exchange ever, how u can argue with that?
[2016-11-02 16:21:10] sally : habibi: I smoked a joint with satoshi back in 09 and we laughed about the genesis block. No biggie
[2016-11-02 16:21:28] AudibleScience : sally: that makes no sense. Are you a chick with a dick or what then?
[2016-11-02 16:21:48] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So maybe you guys can teach me some yoga and trading
[2016-11-02 16:21:51] habibi : chick with dick is not longer a chick
[2016-11-02 16:22:10] sally : habibi: it is. As long as she has a pretty face
[2016-11-02 16:22:53] AudibleScience : habibi: agreed lol
[2016-11-02 16:23:24] BitMEX_Wally : sally: You'll have to ask Arthur, he leads the yoga session.
[2016-11-02 16:23:55] BitMEX_Wally : Bed time for me, night night
[2016-11-02 16:24:15] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Thats cool. And maybe during the evening we check out Arkhan
[2016-11-02 16:24:41] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I want to buy my ticket today
[2016-11-02 16:25:25] wurstgelee : i love those 5 lights @ zec next to polo price ;)
[2016-11-02 16:25:57] rapidtrades : 5 lights means ur doing things right son!
[2016-11-02 16:26:20] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-02 16:27:41] kingkrung : what does cost mean in "Place Order". and why is it so hig in ZECZ16?
[2016-11-02 16:27:45] kingkrung : is it a fee?
[2016-11-02 16:28:21] wurstgelee : what does it say?
[2016-11-02 16:28:24] wurstgelee : which value?
[2016-11-02 16:28:42] TwinnerD : kingkrung: because of 2x its 50% of order value
[2016-11-02 16:28:43] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: that is your maintenance margin
[2016-11-02 16:29:23] kingkrung : @arbitrage001 ok
[2016-11-02 16:29:26] kingkrung : thanks
[2016-11-02 16:29:43] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: maintenance margic is 50% for zcash
[2016-11-02 16:29:57] arbitrage001 : total value should be double
[2016-11-02 16:30:09] arbitrage001 : and fee is 0.25% for taker, 0% for maker
[2016-11-02 16:30:16] public username 321 : coming right back down. It was just noise.
[2016-11-02 16:30:19] arbitrage001 : settlement fee, i am not sure how much
[2016-11-02 16:30:43] arbitrage001 : public username 321: push it down more
[2016-11-02 16:30:45] chromaticcr1 : 0.25%
[2016-11-02 16:30:52] arbitrage001 : i have more bid around 0.25
[2016-11-02 16:30:58] arbitrage001 : and 0.2
[2016-11-02 16:31:00] public username 321 : arbitrage001: i'm trading small. Not pushing things around
[2016-11-02 16:31:14] wurstgelee : public username 321: sorry for taking profits :p
[2016-11-02 16:33:02] public username 321 : wurstgelee: yeah, you're the happy tiger of the box, eh?
[2016-11-02 16:33:08] public username 321 : :p
[2016-11-02 16:33:49] wurstgelee : i recently am. unless i ht some invisible surprise wall
[2016-11-02 16:34:14] wurstgelee : which gets removed but hen suddenly not removed until it gets pushed up but not removed oO
[2016-11-02 16:34:18] public username 321 : wurstgelee: was it you who pushed the price up?
[2016-11-02 16:34:24] wurstgelee : public username 321: nope
[2016-11-02 16:34:29] wurstgelee : didnt buy a single contract
[2016-11-02 16:34:37] wurstgelee : in the last few hours
[2016-11-02 16:34:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 16:34:47] arbitrage001 : some short probably got scare
[2016-11-02 16:34:52] wurstgelee : yeah, prob
[2016-11-02 16:35:06] arbitrage001 : i know i wouldnt be able to sleep well if i short
[2016-11-02 16:35:12] wurstgelee : i am patiently waiting in the feeding range...
[2016-11-02 16:35:14] wurstgelee : as usual
[2016-11-02 16:35:15] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-02 16:35:31] TwinnerD : wurstgelee: welches bunderland bist du eig?
[2016-11-02 16:35:35] TwinnerD : bundes*
[2016-11-02 16:35:37] wurstgelee : hamburg
[2016-11-02 16:35:45] TwinnerD : moin moin
[2016-11-02 16:35:56] wurstgelee : moin ;)
[2016-11-02 16:36:03] wurstgelee : du?
[2016-11-02 16:36:20] TwinnerD : Wien
[2016-11-02 16:36:34] wurstgelee : da wohnt mein bruder ;)
[2016-11-02 16:37:13] TwinnerD : nice
[2016-11-02 16:37:35] TwinnerD : soon someone will ban us for using the wrong language
[2016-11-02 16:41:26] mjones : Can i be mod?
[2016-11-02 16:41:57] mjones : Trollbox mod
[2016-11-02 16:44:16] sally : we dont need mods here
[2016-11-02 16:48:59] Higgsy : Anywhere I can go where it shows how to short and then set stop/loss etc?
[2016-11-02 16:49:05] wurstgelee : watching u btc
[2016-11-02 16:49:09] wurstgelee : watching u..
[2016-11-02 16:49:09] sleger : we didnt need sally either yet here he is
[2016-11-02 16:50:05] wurstgelee : Higgsy: https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-11-02 16:50:10] wurstgelee : learning by doing for free
[2016-11-02 16:50:47] Higgsy : Awesome cheers!
[2016-11-02 17:00:56] Higgsy : I have to send BTC into the the testnet account just to play around?....
[2016-11-02 17:00:58] Higgsy : fuck that
[2016-11-02 17:01:07] TwinnerD : no
[2016-11-02 17:01:10] TwinnerD : testnet btc
[2016-11-02 17:01:10] TwinnerD : lol
[2016-11-02 17:01:21] TwinnerD : http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/
[2016-11-02 17:04:28] Higgsy : cheers
[2016-11-02 17:34:02] jeeburns : Question, if i'm doing futures dec 30 (100x) platform and I have bitcoin that isn't in my trade, if my liquidation price gets hit will it take from my account to cover so I don't get margin called?
[2016-11-02 17:35:01] TwinnerD : yes if you select cross margin
[2016-11-02 17:36:22] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: As TwinnerD mentions, that is correct if you select Cross margin. Cross will use all available margin to prevent a liquidation event. You can read further about the different margining methods here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2016-11-02 17:47:11] jeeburns : ok thank you!
[2016-11-02 17:52:50] Cryptlex : Hey, do i still get the maker fee when I used hidden or iceburg?
[2016-11-02 17:53:50] Smartass : arbitrage001: you are a wise man.. so many tears i cried because of my shorts...
[2016-11-02 17:55:19] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: You pay taker fee on the hidden section
[2016-11-02 17:55:35] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees#Order-Type-Exceptions
[2016-11-02 17:55:43] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2016-11-02 17:59:57] y1uy : BitMEX_Greg: what are cross orders?
[2016-11-02 18:00:22] BitMEX_Greg : y1uy: We don't have cross orders. What I refer to above is Cross Margin
[2016-11-02 18:00:40] BitMEX_Greg : This is a margining method which uses all available margin to cover a position.
[2016-11-02 18:00:46] BitMEX_Greg : all available balance* rather
[2016-11-02 18:01:52] y1uy : BitMEX_Greg: how do u set up hidden order?
[2016-11-02 18:02:01] y1uy : oh never mind
[2016-11-02 18:02:05] y1uy : found it
[2016-11-02 18:02:17] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: the funding rate on perpetual swaps is determined by the premium/discount over the index for a given period?
[2016-11-02 18:03:25] QuantFocus : nm, think i found it here
[2016-11-02 18:06:11] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: Ok cool, here is the guide just fyi: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2016-11-02 18:06:42] rx84 : Looking at the formula for Futures Fair Price, doesn't everything just cancel out and Fair Price === Impact Mid Price??
[2016-11-02 18:09:43] messiaen8844 : Greg
[2016-11-02 18:09:49] messiaen8844 : what happens after ETHXBT expires? new swap or futures?
[2016-11-02 18:10:26] j8 : pretty much, except that calculation is only done every 30 seconds or so (i think), and in between the fair price follows changes in the spot price @rx84
[2016-11-02 18:10:42] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: ETHXBT is a swap, it doesn't expire
[2016-11-02 18:11:05] sleger : ???
[2016-11-02 18:11:09] sleger : yes it does
[2016-11-02 18:11:10] BitMEX_Greg : Sorry*
[2016-11-02 18:11:17] sleger : its a perpetual swap that expires soon
[2016-11-02 18:11:24] messiaen8844 : then another one begins?
[2016-11-02 18:11:29] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: a futures contract is being put in its place* a 7 Day futures contract
[2016-11-02 18:11:30] sleger : nope its dead
[2016-11-02 18:11:35] messiaen8844 : ah, nice
[2016-11-02 18:11:37] messiaen8844 : thanks
[2016-11-02 18:11:45] sleger : nice ? no
[2016-11-02 18:17:45] sleger : new btcc usd exchange, with rebates for makers
[2016-11-02 18:18:33] rapidtrades : we need zec margin not new btcusd exchange
[2016-11-02 18:20:08] rapidtrades : is anyone a kraken regular? can u confirm that they add margin one week after listing like that guy was saying
[2016-11-02 18:20:47] rapidtrades : (check ur email)
[2016-11-02 18:21:24] messiaen8844 : margin to shoart zec?
[2016-11-02 18:21:31] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-11-02 18:21:39] messiaen8844 : let it fist stabilize
[2016-11-02 18:21:42] messiaen8844 : then they can add 10x
[2016-11-02 18:21:50] rapidtrades : 5x afaik?
[2016-11-02 18:22:12] rapidtrades : im talking about kraken yo
[2016-11-02 18:30:38] thomaskikansha : zec pump
[2016-11-02 18:31:02] rapidtrades : Fury 2 has been lauched
[2016-11-02 18:32:56] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: is Sam around?
[2016-11-02 18:33:34] Sidwick : going back up to 3 or 4 within the hour
[2016-11-02 18:38:44] rapidtrades : needs to break 2 first :)
[2016-11-02 18:39:30] thomaskikansha : ~160BTC till 2
[2016-11-02 18:45:39] TwinnerD : Sidwick: if it would go to 3-4 here, 400 of 423 contracts would surely be liquidated
[2016-11-02 18:46:22] wurstgelee : lol polo....
[2016-11-02 18:46:30] rapidtrades : PAIN
[2016-11-02 18:46:39] rapidtrades : look it up shorts
[2016-11-02 18:46:40] thomaskikansha : the futures price would follow much even if spot go to 3 or 4
[2016-11-02 18:46:44] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: whats up
[2016-11-02 18:46:51] thomaskikansha : wouldn't
[2016-11-02 18:46:54] wurstgelee : someone is serious about that pump ;)
[2016-11-02 18:47:00] imabeast : ruh roh
[2016-11-02 18:47:02] rapidtrades : thomaskikansha: it will now :)
[2016-11-02 18:47:06] imabeast : zec 2btc?
[2016-11-02 18:47:24] imabeast : i think it goes to 2.5
[2016-11-02 18:47:29] imabeast : lolol
[2016-11-02 18:47:36] NL007 : maybe 2
[2016-11-02 18:47:47] thomaskikansha : volume kicks in
[2016-11-02 18:47:56] wurstgelee : mission withdraw-from-suprnova initiated
[2016-11-02 18:48:00] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 18:48:04] rapidtrades : woooo
[2016-11-02 18:48:07] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-02 18:48:15] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: i'm trying to set up my MM but getting an error after executing
[2016-11-02 18:48:37] wurstgelee : 1.6
[2016-11-02 18:48:40] rapidtrades : holy shit polo is srs
[2016-11-02 18:48:46] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: Can you send us a support ticket? I'll have Sam check it out when he's free
[2016-11-02 18:48:49] wurstgelee : lol. didnt expect it but maybe
[2016-11-02 18:49:05] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: ok, i can do that. thanks man
[2016-11-02 18:49:07] rapidtrades : Fury 2 underway
[2016-11-02 18:49:08] wurstgelee : 1.7 ...
[2016-11-02 18:49:10] wurstgelee : crazy fuckers
[2016-11-02 18:49:11] BitMEX_Greg : np
[2016-11-02 18:49:14] imabeast : that 180 btc buy wall
[2016-11-02 18:49:15] imabeast : ahhaa
[2016-11-02 18:49:19] wurstgelee : rofl
[2016-11-02 18:49:22] thomaskikansha : wtf
[2016-11-02 18:49:22] NL007 : zcash is dangerous
[2016-11-02 18:49:24] imabeast : nvm nto there any more
[2016-11-02 18:49:26] BitMEX_Greg : big green dildo
[2016-11-02 18:49:28] imabeast : hahah
[2016-11-02 18:49:32] rapidtrades : this is gone
[2016-11-02 18:49:38] NL007 : viagra and boom
[2016-11-02 18:49:41] rapidtrades : u have secs to buy
[2016-11-02 18:50:04] NL007 : 1.76
[2016-11-02 18:50:07] wurstgelee : crazy shit
[2016-11-02 18:50:25] rapidtrades : 1000 liqs incoming :)
[2016-11-02 18:50:36] rapidtrades : sry 100
[2016-11-02 18:50:56] NL007 : check buy support 1400btc
[2016-11-02 18:50:58] thomaskikansha : lol 400BTC wall at 1.3
[2016-11-02 18:51:38] rapidtrades : thats roger ver
[2016-11-02 18:52:07] wurstgelee : u are roger ver
[2016-11-02 18:52:14] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-11-02 18:54:11] QuantFocus : :knife:
[2016-11-02 18:55:39] NL007 : 1 big investor can buy up whole zec supply on polo
[2016-11-02 18:57:11] Rado : one big crazy investor
[2016-11-02 18:58:29] thomaskikansha : 200BTC at 1.3 400BTC at 1.27
[2016-11-02 18:58:54] thomaskikansha : shits getting real
[2016-11-02 18:59:11] messiaen8844 : lol, the P&Ds are real
[2016-11-02 18:59:13] NL007 : create shortage of zec price goes bezerk and he sells a few coins for 500-1000btc a coin and has his investment back
[2016-11-02 18:59:23] messiaen8844 : probably miners playing
[2016-11-02 18:59:30] messiaen8844 : to sell their coins with more profit
[2016-11-02 18:59:55] rapidtrades : shorts here need their heads examined
[2016-11-02 19:00:09] NL007 : 1.8btc
[2016-11-02 19:03:52] thomaskikansha : omg wicked to 2
[2016-11-02 19:03:56] rapidtrades : if u entered below 1 u have minutes to get out, or get liqed....just imo
[2016-11-02 19:04:37] thomaskikansha : ask sum down to 280ZEC
[2016-11-02 19:04:48] rapidtrades : nom nom nom
[2016-11-02 19:04:52] rapidtrades : polo is hungry
[2016-11-02 19:04:54] zecz : wow
[2016-11-02 19:05:05] numero : so if my counter party gets ADLed, do I get to keep profit up to that point?
[2016-11-02 19:05:36] rapidtrades : numero: you mean u get ADL and they get margined?
[2016-11-02 19:05:51] wurstgelee : rofl
[2016-11-02 19:05:52] numero : rapidtrades: that's exactly what I mean, what did you hear?
[2016-11-02 19:06:02] wurstgelee : seriously.....
[2016-11-02 19:06:02] rapidtrades : what u wrote
[2016-11-02 19:06:24] rapidtrades : u get to keep profit yes
[2016-11-02 19:06:32] numero : okay, thanks
[2016-11-02 19:06:53] rapidtrades : ADL basically closes u out at a profit, usually
[2016-11-02 19:07:18] NL007 : wow 2btc
[2016-11-02 19:07:41] rapidtrades : yeah it's been 2 for a while now...did u look away?
[2016-11-02 19:08:02] NL007 : rapidtrades: yes
[2016-11-02 19:10:25] rapidtrades : that was a 40% jump....we may need to chill out for a bit
[2016-11-02 19:12:28] rapidtrades : if 2 breaks we should go toward 3 - 3.5
[2016-11-02 19:13:12] NL007 : rapidtrades: its better to wait a few more days untill supply grows a bit
[2016-11-02 19:13:33] rapidtrades : better for who?
[2016-11-02 19:13:36] public username 321 : no liquidation so far
[2016-11-02 19:13:58] NL007 : now its easy for some groups to pump or dump hard
[2016-11-02 19:14:04] rapidtrades : public username 321: we're on the edge now....lowest shorts were around 0.4
[2016-11-02 19:14:33] rapidtrades : around 0.7-0.8 u will see some
[2016-11-02 19:14:34] NL007 : if you are on wrong side you get Liquidated fast
[2016-11-02 19:15:01] imabeast : yea .7 .8 is the spot
[2016-11-02 19:18:34] y1uy : wurstgelee: hey
[2016-11-02 19:18:50] wurstgelee : y1uy: yep?
[2016-11-02 19:18:52] y1uy : wurstgelee: still worth mining ZEC with nicehash SOl?
[2016-11-02 19:19:06] wurstgelee : y1uy: dont think so
[2016-11-02 19:20:05] y1uy : wurstgelee: ok
[2016-11-02 19:21:31] NL007 : zec diff. doubled in a few days
[2016-11-02 19:24:02] wurstgelee : can anyone recommend a place where i can bet on us election result with btc?
[2016-11-02 19:24:11] wurstgelee : preferably trustworthy
[2016-11-02 19:24:11] QuantFocus : augur
[2016-11-02 19:24:15] wurstgelee : löl
[2016-11-02 19:25:12] wurstgelee : hm, might as well do it indirectly and short stocks
[2016-11-02 19:25:15] wurstgelee : nvm
[2016-11-02 19:25:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 19:25:27] numero : I'm long gold going into the election
[2016-11-02 19:25:34] wurstgelee : same bet ;)
[2016-11-02 19:25:36] y1uy : yup
[2016-11-02 19:25:39] y1uy : long gold and btc
[2016-11-02 19:25:40] numero : nice
[2016-11-02 19:30:26] sleger : wurstgelee: fairlay
[2016-11-02 19:31:05] rapidtrades : sleger: dude...time to partake in some ZEC
[2016-11-02 19:31:27] sleger : rapidtrades: dude it's neveeeeeeeer going back above 1, take your loss
[2016-11-02 19:31:38] rapidtrades : ahahaha
[2016-11-02 19:31:43] rapidtrades : short hope dies last
[2016-11-02 19:35:37] martinium : people have inflated hopes for this ZEC
[2016-11-02 19:35:53] martinium : from here on out it is just another shitcoin with use of fancy algos
[2016-11-02 19:36:13] martinium : but whatever money can be made on it since it is tradable
[2016-11-02 19:38:53] rapidtrades : we;re just taking a break here before attacking 2 again
[2016-11-02 19:40:11] wurstgelee : now
[2016-11-02 19:40:11] martinium : you mea before BTC breaks 800+ and ZEC gets crushed some more with all other alts?
[2016-11-02 19:40:14] sleger : 0.2 ?
[2016-11-02 19:40:14] martinium : mean*
[2016-11-02 19:40:25] martinium : sleger: indeed
[2016-11-02 19:40:38] hhhhh : ZEC is the BIGGEST scam I have seen this year in crypto
[2016-11-02 19:40:58] QuantFocus : just this year?
[2016-11-02 19:41:00] wurstgelee : there is no scam. the "trading" is different than other launch pumps
[2016-11-02 19:41:01] rapidtrades : sleger: are u short again? didn't u lose enough money in this coin?
[2016-11-02 19:41:02] sleger : you clearly havent seen sally
[2016-11-02 19:41:04] wurstgelee : because no supply
[2016-11-02 19:41:07] wurstgelee : that is all
[2016-11-02 19:41:13] sleger : rapidtrades: no pos
[2016-11-02 19:41:13] QuantFocus : i don't know about scam, but clever implementation by devs
[2016-11-02 19:41:13] wurstgelee : deal with it or get dealth with ;)
[2016-11-02 19:41:19] wurstgelee : *-h
[2016-11-02 19:41:23] hhhhh : QuantFocus: lol could be last 5 years?
[2016-11-02 19:41:25] rapidtrades : sleger: so -100, got it
[2016-11-02 19:41:52] sleger : should i market buy to cover ?
[2016-11-02 19:42:01] rapidtrades : yes plz
[2016-11-02 19:42:10] sleger : wouldnt even bring the price to 1
[2016-11-02 19:42:12] imabeast : here it comes again lol
[2016-11-02 19:42:16] sleger : you'd still be down 2 btc ;)
[2016-11-02 19:42:20] rapidtrades : where that greek boy
[2016-11-02 19:42:29] rapidtrades : did his fill at 0.35 hit?
[2016-11-02 19:42:51] rapidtrades : nope still 5 there hahahah
[2016-11-02 19:43:33] rapidtrades : tbf he got out of most shorts i think, so didn't do too bad
[2016-11-02 19:45:16] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: so u are holding this 1 underwater long till dec 30?
[2016-11-02 19:45:48] sleger : yes
[2016-11-02 19:46:06] sleger : 60 days of hearing that....
[2016-11-02 19:48:05] wurstgelee : yay :|
[2016-11-02 19:57:16] Airmike : Hi
[2016-11-02 20:00:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 1730 @ 0.002671
[2016-11-02 20:02:24] orly : guys, can anyone tell me about the gold market?
[2016-11-02 20:02:56] orly : like, if you want to go long on gold, what's your go to place?
[2016-11-02 20:03:34] orly : do you buy physical gold or are these markets mostly "virtual"?
[2016-11-02 20:04:05] sleger : you buy digix gold using ethereum token
[2016-11-02 20:06:42] orly : do they accept ethereum or is the virtual asset itself on the eth chain?
[2016-11-02 20:07:20] orly : and do they actually have the physical gold represented by the contract?
[2016-11-02 20:07:29] orly : sleger: ^
[2016-11-02 20:07:47] sleger : orly: google
[2016-11-02 20:08:08] sleger : gold is audited and held in singapore
[2016-11-02 20:08:46] orly : yeah i'm already reading their site just figured it would be quicker since you've used them i assume
[2016-11-02 20:08:55] orly : thanks though
[2016-11-02 20:09:55] orly : "Every step of the way, records of proof are published permanently using Ethereum" :/
[2016-11-02 20:10:19] orly : yeah uh, unfortunately i don't trust the eth chain since the first hard fork
[2016-11-02 20:11:14] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-02 20:16:17] zecz : lol, its still around 0,5 here
[2016-11-02 20:16:28] zecz : why not 1++ now when its "marked"
[2016-11-02 20:18:21] Rado : it's not marked yet
[2016-11-02 20:19:43] BitMEX_Sam : Even when it is, the point of marking is not to converge futures & spot price, it's to provide price stability & prevent unnecessary liquidations
[2016-11-02 20:19:57] BitMEX_Sam : It will only stabilize the futures price, it will not cause it to trade with more or less basis
[2016-11-02 20:20:35] BitMEX_Sam : We specifically made a note of this in the announcement but it appears misunderstanding was responsible for that small pump after the email went out.
[2016-11-02 20:20:41] martinium : man that funding rate brutalizes my gainz
[2016-11-02 20:20:50] martinium : glad its dropping again
[2016-11-02 20:21:05] martinium : hopefully shorts made money and took their profits
[2016-11-02 20:21:08] sleger : we'll make sure to bring it back up
[2016-11-02 20:21:39] martinium : hehe
[2016-11-02 20:21:53] sleger : you know who's causing that rate to be so high ?
[2016-11-02 20:22:29] martinium : the bitmex index that only has two exchanges?
[2016-11-02 20:22:37] martinium : lol
[2016-11-02 20:22:42] sleger : no you and your friends buying the swap above the index
[2016-11-02 20:22:54] martinium : interesting
[2016-11-02 20:23:17] martinium : the way the index works though it always follows
[2016-11-02 20:23:21] martinium : in an upswing
[2016-11-02 20:23:21] messiaen8844 : swap rate is a good contrarian indicator
[2016-11-02 20:23:40] martinium : messiaen8844: I've found that to be the case at least partially
[2016-11-02 20:23:50] messiaen8844 : it can help
[2016-11-02 20:24:34] sleger : i can remember people who said that with daily, and sold when premium reached 2$, then 5$ they were screaming short opportunity of the year
[2016-11-02 20:24:47] sleger : by the time premium reached 80 they were all REKT, so good luck with that
[2016-11-02 20:25:01] martinium : I don't base any of my trades on that
[2016-11-02 20:25:15] martinium : I personally base mine on price and a few other things
[2016-11-02 20:25:31] martinium : I don't use any indicators as I am a price action guy
[2016-11-02 20:28:56] messiaen8844 : sledger, that is overly simplistic usage
[2016-11-02 20:29:19] hhhhh : ZEC in free fall on poloniex
[2016-11-02 20:29:27] messiaen8844 : what it does is give a direct measure of sentiment
[2016-11-02 20:29:46] KETH : BitMEX_Sam: Hi. I just read https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking and unless I'm mistaken, for the future faire price calculation, you make a lot of operations to end up with Fair Price = Impact Mid Price (yes all the rest cancel out, and it is confirmed in your example at the end of the page). So... why not, but I don't know if that's what you wanted really ^^
[2016-11-02 20:31:17] sleger : KETH: yep and he did confirm that earlier to you
[2016-11-02 20:31:23] sleger : except the update frequency
[2016-11-02 20:31:43] sleger : please pay more attention or next time I will have to give you a 12 hr ban from the chat
[2016-11-02 20:32:02] KETH : sleger: Ok (well not to me I just arrived, you may have mistaken me for someone else)
[2016-11-02 20:32:43] zecz : KETH also saw that
[2016-11-02 20:32:53] zecz : thought I did the calculations wrong
[2016-11-02 20:32:54] NL007 : sleger: since when do you ban people?
[2016-11-02 20:33:05] NL007 : :)
[2016-11-02 20:34:39] sleger : NL007: since 2014
[2016-11-02 20:35:16] NL007 : who do people know you are a mod?
[2016-11-02 20:35:28] BitMEX_Sam : He's just kidding around.
[2016-11-02 20:35:35] BitMEX_Sam : The only mods have `BitMEX` in their name.
[2016-11-02 20:35:44] NL007 : BitMEX_Sam: thought so
[2016-11-02 20:35:44] martinium : lmao
[2016-11-02 20:36:09] messiaen8844 : Sam
[2016-11-02 20:36:16] martinium : sleger: you crack me up. Love your sarcasic humor
[2016-11-02 20:36:18] messiaen8844 : could you change sledger to name to BitMEX_sledger
[2016-11-02 20:36:30] messiaen8844 : like when you guys changed rapittrades nick
[2016-11-02 20:36:31] NL007 : BitMEX_Sam: maybe he needs a 12hr ban.
[2016-11-02 20:36:36] NL007 : lol
[2016-11-02 20:36:40] messiaen8844 : please give him banhammer for 12hr
[2016-11-02 20:36:45] martinium : nah
[2016-11-02 20:36:51] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: Maybe then we should change my nickname to BitMEX_Sleger
[2016-11-02 20:36:51] martinium : hes funny
[2016-11-02 20:37:11] NL007 : banhammer is also funny
[2016-11-02 20:37:31] martinium : everytime someone says banhammer I think of norse gods
[2016-11-02 20:37:43] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: Okay, I've changed your nick
[2016-11-02 20:37:55] QuantFocus : test it
[2016-11-02 20:37:57] sledger : sleger: show us your new name
[2016-11-02 20:38:06] QuantFocus : :boo:
[2016-11-02 20:38:14] martinium : wtf there is a sledger and a sleger
[2016-11-02 20:38:19] martinium : hahahaha
[2016-11-02 20:38:27] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-02 20:38:29] sledger : and same color we have
[2016-11-02 20:38:38] NL007 : twins
[2016-11-02 20:38:42] BitMEX_Sam : We've been lining our pockets with these color changes
[2016-11-02 20:38:47] QuantFocus : oh wow, didn't catch that
[2016-11-02 20:38:54] sledger : i paid 10btc, how much did sleger pay ?
[2016-11-02 20:39:02] wurstgelee : sledger: 5
[2016-11-02 20:39:06] sledger : damn
[2016-11-02 20:39:27] martinium : sledger: you bought the top
[2016-11-02 20:39:39] martinium : imminent DEWM
[2016-11-02 20:40:39] sledger : martinium: i didnt know there was a cap at 10 for color as well
[2016-11-02 20:41:20] QuantFocus : they're moving it up to 100 this week. buy your color change now
[2016-11-02 20:42:55] messiaen8844 : they are launching an appcoin for bitmex colors
[2016-11-02 20:43:02] wurstgelee : sledger: its undocumented but its there. its unreasonable to pay more so it makes sense tho
[2016-11-02 20:43:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 20:43:13] messiaen8844 : please make rapidtrades pink
[2016-11-02 20:43:43] wurstgelee : and add a thai flag to his nick
[2016-11-02 20:46:58] kd12 : test
[2016-11-02 20:47:00] sledger : nah, they already have problems to keep arthur focused enough
[2016-11-02 20:53:56] wurstgelee : 5k or not to 5k
[2016-11-02 20:54:04] blacktuesday : china making another attempt
[2016-11-02 20:54:20] blacktuesday : such resistance to +5k
[2016-11-02 20:57:08] mike23aa : going up
[2016-11-02 20:57:11] wurstgelee : step 1: done
[2016-11-02 20:57:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 20:57:22] blacktuesday : 780 okc quart
[2016-11-02 20:57:37] john1243 : probably not to 5k with the strengthening of the yuan
[2016-11-02 20:58:21] wurstgelee : we are at 5k
[2016-11-02 20:58:43] john1243 : oh thats right
[2016-11-02 20:58:47] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 20:59:13] john1243 : still think it's going to blow off a little steam here though
[2016-11-02 21:00:28] sledger : john1243: we'll send you a postcard fom the moon
[2016-11-02 21:03:48] martinium : MEWN
[2016-11-02 21:06:18] blacktuesday : if im seeing all bars lit for ADL - what do i do to reduce my risk of ADL? If I sell and take profit risk will be lower, right?
[2016-11-02 21:07:05] wurstgelee : that would be dumb because adl would give u a better price than selling if adl gets triggered
[2016-11-02 21:07:42] blacktuesday : I see. thanks for info, so adding more margin is the only way to lower risk?
[2016-11-02 21:07:58] wurstgelee : iirc yes
[2016-11-02 21:08:34] sledger : no
[2016-11-02 21:09:05] sledger : trade against yourself or a 2nd account to switch the position to it and reset the unrealised to zero
[2016-11-02 21:09:58] blacktuesday : ^sounds like an advanced skill.
[2016-11-02 21:10:15] blacktuesday : trying to wrap my head around the concept. seems legit :)
[2016-11-02 21:12:07] numero : would you do that in the middle of the spread?
[2016-11-02 21:12:10] sledger : its annoying that you have to maintain 2 accounts just to arbitrage a poorly formed rule
[2016-11-02 21:12:21] sledger : numero: yes with hidden order ideally
[2016-11-02 21:12:30] numero : sledger: right on
[2016-11-02 21:12:36] sledger : but they should just change the rule if its so easy to game
[2016-11-02 21:12:49] sledger : I told them 2 weeks ago I believe
[2016-11-02 21:13:12] sledger : also they do collect some fees when you trade agaisnt yourself so its not totally free
[2016-11-02 21:13:53] wurstgelee : oh right, i recall that
[2016-11-02 21:15:52] john1243 : stupid sell order executed twice
[2016-11-02 21:19:25] blacktuesday : gonna be uber bull time if 5k can h0ld
[2016-11-02 21:19:34] wurstgelee : if
[2016-11-02 21:19:43] blacktuesday : big if ya
[2016-11-02 21:23:36] john1243 : my sell order was on FCT to close out a long so technically not too bad if BTC is pumping
[2016-11-02 21:24:44] blacktuesday : the time has come, gentlemen
[2016-11-02 21:25:06] blacktuesday : shorts gonna panic