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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-11-02 15:28:03] sleger : sally: if you're nigerian im sure you can scam some people out to make your money back easily [2016-11-02 15:28:13] sally : habibi: No. Your long and are getting wet about minimising your losses [2016-11-02 15:28:18] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Wally: so that will be the average price of bid and ask available at the time fair basis is used? [2016-11-02 15:28:24] NL007 : zecz: yes [2016-11-02 15:28:25] BitMEX_Wally : The fair price is a combination of the Poloniex ZEC price and the fair basis rate, and the fair basis rate is calculated using the ZECZ16 order book [2016-11-02 15:28:46] RoftheN : What's the big deal here? This seems quite good to me [2016-11-02 15:28:49] sally : BitMEX_Wally: so its changed? [2016-11-02 15:28:51] NL007 : shorters just got fuked [2016-11-02 15:28:51] habibi : sally: losses? on longs here? when? where? [2016-11-02 15:29:04] BitMEX_Wally : sally: We are not using the fair price yet, that is 12:00 UTC Friday [2016-11-02 15:29:05] sleger : sally: the change was planned [2016-11-02 15:29:13] Rado : NL007: not really [2016-11-02 15:29:18] Rado : shorts are just fine [2016-11-02 15:29:20] zecz : for example, whats the fair price right now? which auto liq price would u get trying to short at 0,5 [2016-11-02 15:29:22] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we just planned it and gave 40 hours notice... [2016-11-02 15:29:38] public username 321 : Will you change it back later without prior warning if your short are under water? [2016-11-02 15:29:55] BitMEX_Wally : zecz: Your liquidation price is determined by your entry price and leverage, not the current fair price [2016-11-02 15:30:02] Rado : BitMEX can't make everyone happy it seems [2016-11-02 15:30:04] imabeast : should have gave a week notice [2016-11-02 15:30:12] imabeast : that would have been fair [2016-11-02 15:30:13] aili : =) [2016-11-02 15:30:15] sally : BitMEX_Wally: you just made a %75 change in the market [2016-11-02 15:30:17] RoftheN : So I short like at 0.6 here today and the price will stay around that. But friday Polo is on 1.6 BTC? Will I suddenly get liquidated even if till friday the price here stays 0.6? [2016-11-02 15:30:17] Rado : If I was in charge I will tell everyone to fuck off [2016-11-02 15:30:18] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Wally: so if we have negative premium on the ZEC futures, the premium narrows toward the expiry day? [2016-11-02 15:30:22] aili : well 2 days uallis y enough [2016-11-02 15:30:23] fenjamin : hi, if we want to list an index do you support ETFs? [2016-11-02 15:30:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.001248 [2016-11-02 15:30:33] BitMEX_Wally : As per our previous announcements, we said we would give 24 hours notice: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/note-on-zec-price-cap/ [2016-11-02 15:30:37] sleger : sally: it doesnt matter, all shorts will get REKT on zec anyways [2016-11-02 15:30:54] sally : BitMEX_Wally: did you email that? [2016-11-02 15:30:59] RoftheN : We all know ZEC is overvalued and yet we shorters can't profit easily [2016-11-02 15:31:29] BitMEX_Wally : thomaskikansha: Yes the basis rate is quoted in annualised terms and then applied based on the time to expiry [2016-11-02 15:31:33] habibi : RoftheN: LOL, why u simply did not ask Bitmex for some money instead trading? [2016-11-02 15:31:43] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Yes it was emailed and put on the blog and posted as an announcement here [2016-11-02 15:31:55] arbitrage001 : habibi: agree. why not just send me btc [2016-11-02 15:32:03] sleger : and discussed over extensively on the chat [2016-11-02 15:32:06] arbitrage001 : tire of longing and watching people get rekt [2016-11-02 15:32:19] blacktuesday : don;t short the fomo [2016-11-02 15:32:24] sally : BitMEX_Wally: so you changed ZECZ16 to a futures contract of when you would ann this? [2016-11-02 15:32:30] RoftheN : Bitmex, can I have some money? [2016-11-02 15:32:49] sleger : sally: ZECZ16 <= futures in the name [2016-11-02 15:33:06] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Changing the mark method does not change the value of the future, that is for the market to decide [2016-11-02 15:33:16] arbitrage001 : oo, zecz16 is a future contract? [2016-11-02 15:33:39] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well it just did mate. You knew that so dont lie to me [2016-11-02 15:33:42] RoftheN : Why not just add a spot market for Zec then instead of change this one? [2016-11-02 15:33:45] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: so to make this clear, on Friday at 12:00 u will take a snapshot of the orderbook to derive the fair basis rate applied [2016-11-02 15:33:45] chromaticcr1 : oh ZECZ16 is cash settled? [2016-11-02 15:33:55] zecz : BitMEX_Wally: "All ADL contracts are subject to Fair Price Marking. Also note that Fair Price Marking only affects the Liquidation Price and Unrealised PNL, it does not affect Realised PNL." [2016-11-02 15:33:57] BitMEX_Wally : sally: If the market is irrational then that's its problem [2016-11-02 15:34:10] BitMEX_Wally : zecz: Correct [2016-11-02 15:34:11] sleger : conclusion : dont trade with dummies [2016-11-02 15:34:21] zecz : but it doesnät effect auto Liquidation price? [2016-11-02 15:34:25] NL007 : BitMEX_Wally: every change influences the market [2016-11-02 15:34:30] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well you just made it my problem. And my problem is now your problem [2016-11-02 15:34:34] sleger : dummies can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent @sally [2016-11-02 15:34:43] chromaticcr1 : sleger: +1 [2016-11-02 15:34:57] rapidtrades : sleger knows he lost over 10k shorting ZEC [2016-11-02 15:35:02] arbitrage001 : sleger: trading with dummies is how most of us here make money [2016-11-02 15:35:02] laisee : +1 [2016-11-02 15:35:07] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: what is sally's liquidation price, I just had an idea of a game ? [2016-11-02 15:35:07] BitMEX_Wally : zecz: It affects when you get liquidated, but not the liquidation price of your position [2016-11-02 15:35:08] NL007 : rapidtrades: wow [2016-11-02 15:35:09] public username 321 : not the best advertisement for the platform ... [2016-11-02 15:35:11] rapidtrades : now he knows better and educates young ppl against it [2016-11-02 15:35:27] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: what decides the chat username color? Age? [2016-11-02 15:35:42] sleger : TwinnerD: i told you [2016-11-02 15:35:49] public username 321 : if i were bitmex i'd reimburse the loosers in this to keep a good image [2016-11-02 15:35:51] fiero : any advice for BitMEX newbie on which type of trade takes minimum investment.. (Only BTC or ETH) ? [2016-11-02 15:35:58] BitMEX_Wally : public username 321: You sound like sally's sockpuppet [2016-11-02 15:36:07] fml : Lol [2016-11-02 15:36:08] BitMEX_Wally : TwinnerD: I'm not sure, have to ask Sam [2016-11-02 15:36:09] sally : BitMEX_Wally: im here on my own [2016-11-02 15:36:12] public username 321 : lol [2016-11-02 15:36:24] sally : your going to joke about this? @BitMEX_Wally [2016-11-02 15:36:28] RoftheN : does that mean I'm gay? [2016-11-02 15:36:28] sleger : sally: we can see, noone is taking your side [2016-11-02 15:36:38] sleger : sally: you're not your [2016-11-02 15:36:39] habibi : TwinnerD: u need to pay to upgrade ur color, dark green is the highest rank here [2016-11-02 15:37:04] TwinnerD : habibi: dank meme [2016-11-02 15:37:05] RoftheN : apparently dark green is the color you get when you're a bullshitter [2016-11-02 15:37:17] aili : ok, so i guess we should pump zec than =) [2016-11-02 15:37:25] habibi : RoftheN: dont cry, be a man [2016-11-02 15:37:26] RoftheN : Yeah pump zec [2016-11-02 15:37:27] laisee : habibi: sleger was cheated, then [2016-11-02 15:37:30] rapidtrades : instead of bitching shorts should take a look at the orderbook and make a decision [2016-11-02 15:37:40] rapidtrades : personally 0.56 seems very generous [2016-11-02 15:37:56] sleger : it's now or never [2016-11-02 15:37:57] Rado : habibi: it's blue :-) [2016-11-02 15:37:58] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yeah, dont short if you dont have the margin! [2016-11-02 15:38:01] NL007 : rapidtrades: lol [2016-11-02 15:38:04] sally : when is withdraw ? [2016-11-02 15:38:26] imabeast : i hope someone pumps polo [2016-11-02 15:38:31] sleger : sally: if you promise to leave the chat, maybe admin should make an exception ? [2016-11-02 15:38:55] BitMEX_Wally : Ok the colour of your name is based on the hash of your name, so it's random. Except for sleger who paid more for green [2016-11-02 15:39:01] Rado : imabeast: why would they do it? No one wants to lose money [2016-11-02 15:39:03] rapidtrades : me too [2016-11-02 15:39:07] rapidtrades : i paid more [2016-11-02 15:39:17] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: that sounds wrong. My name was red a few days ago :D [2016-11-02 15:39:18] RoftheN : Not sure if serious or not [2016-11-02 15:39:22] sally : fuck me 21 hrs to withdraw [2016-11-02 15:39:23] laisee : paid more == lost moar [2016-11-02 15:39:39] TwinnerD : maybe I am starting to imagine things [2016-11-02 15:39:41] AudibleScience : sally: what's your position size anyway, just out of interest? [2016-11-02 15:39:51] sleger : and liq price ? [2016-11-02 15:40:00] public username 321 : AudibleScience: why would that matter? [2016-11-02 15:40:13] sleger : public username 321: oh you used the wrong window to answer [2016-11-02 15:40:19] rapidtrades : man a polo pump now would be a god sent...the perfect storm [2016-11-02 15:40:26] laisee : public sally> we might raise a fund to buy 1 way ticket [2016-11-02 15:40:30] sally : AudibleScience: I made over 25k on zec day 1-2 and lost about 1btc today [2016-11-02 15:40:46] TwinnerD : sally: why so salty then? [2016-11-02 15:40:49] public username 321 : yeah, i see how this is handled. I don't like it and won't recommend this platform in the future. [2016-11-02 15:40:49] sally : not about the money at all [2016-11-02 15:40:53] arbitrage001 : sally: then you shouldnt complain [2016-11-02 15:41:08] sleger : arbitrage001: i disagree with that [2016-11-02 15:41:20] TwinnerD : change his name from sally to salty and let him continue to chat [2016-11-02 15:41:26] sally : I will spend more than that proving a point [2016-11-02 15:41:28] sleger : let's say your trade made 100k and bitmex says they will only give you 50k, would you be ok ? [2016-11-02 15:41:38] rapidtrades : I made $$$ on ZEC too but i complained as well [2016-11-02 15:41:49] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: you dont say.... :D [2016-11-02 15:41:51] sleger : I lost $$ on zec but I never complained [2016-11-02 15:41:54] public username 321 : they could avergage out winners and looser [2016-11-02 15:41:54] wurstgelee : hrhr [2016-11-02 15:41:59] AudibleScience : sally: you seem pretty irrational to me [2016-11-02 15:42:07] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: lots of fight going on [2016-11-02 15:42:14] arbitrage001 : pls add fuel to it [2016-11-02 15:42:28] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: reading. bowl of popcorn next to me [2016-11-02 15:42:28] public username 321 : or roll back those trades [2016-11-02 15:42:42] sally : losing to market is fine. I do it everyday. Losing to manipulation and contact amending is not [2016-11-02 15:42:43] rapidtrades : trades are never rolled back [2016-11-02 15:43:07] public username 321 : rapidtrades: but rules changed mid game? [2016-11-02 15:43:10] wurstgelee : sally: you lost to not reading or understanding the specs of the contracts you agreed on [2016-11-02 15:43:10] sally : screwing your customers to look after your MM is not ok in my books [2016-11-02 15:43:12] AudibleScience : sally: 25k what anyway? $ or satoshi? [2016-11-02 15:43:15] rapidtrades : wait...did they rollback those trades on btcjpy? [2016-11-02 15:43:26] wurstgelee : public username 321: the rules were always there and are unchanged [2016-11-02 15:43:52] rapidtrades : public username 321: they gave u a helping hand for a few days and now they're taking i away...simple [2016-11-02 15:43:55] sally : They just influenced the market +%75 [2016-11-02 15:44:06] wurstgelee : sally: the rule influenced it [2016-11-02 15:44:08] laisee : does anyone know a lawyer? :-0 [2016-11-02 15:44:09] sleger : but the change was planned dummy [2016-11-02 15:44:10] wurstgelee : defined in the contract [2016-11-02 15:44:16] NL007 : wurstgelee: there were osome rules but not clear [2016-11-02 15:44:31] BitMEX_Wally : Out of curiosity, how do you calculate 75%? [2016-11-02 15:44:37] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: x2 [2016-11-02 15:44:39] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-02 15:44:42] sally : you shills supporting this are long. Thats the only reason why. That or stupid. [2016-11-02 15:44:49] rapidtrades : cmon shorts rly? u had a ride from the hard-coded cap to 0.4 and u still complain that u didn't capture those last 0.4? [2016-11-02 15:45:02] sally : BitMEX_Wally: .4-.7 [2016-11-02 15:45:06] rapidtrades : that's a 9.6 btc free ride [2016-11-02 15:45:11] wurstgelee : sally: i was always and only long on zec. thats no secret [2016-11-02 15:45:41] sleger : i must be stupid then [2016-11-02 15:45:51] chromaticcr1 : lol [2016-11-02 15:45:53] laisee : some of us read contracts and expect them to be honoured, both ways [2016-11-02 15:46:11] wurstgelee : laisee: ;) [2016-11-02 15:46:18] sally : breaking the contract makes my position invalid. So refund it [2016-11-02 15:46:35] wurstgelee : sally: no marking to polo would break the contract u tool [2016-11-02 15:46:46] sally : Look after your customers or you just attract attention for the worng reasons [2016-11-02 15:46:59] habibi : sally: will u vote for Hillary or Trump? [2016-11-02 15:47:04] wurstgelee : habibi: haahahahaha [2016-11-02 15:47:19] sally : habibi: lol [2016-11-02 15:47:21] Yuppie : Bam. 35 bid [2016-11-02 15:47:29] wurstgelee : almost choked to death by popcorn [2016-11-02 15:47:43] arbitrage001 : habibi: trump! [2016-11-02 15:47:45] chromaticcr1 : that order is def from donald trump [2016-11-02 15:47:45] sally : mod? [2016-11-02 15:47:48] habibi : sally: answer the question and i will refund u whole ur lost ! [2016-11-02 15:48:02] sally : habibi: I cant vote [2016-11-02 15:48:11] habibi : no refund then [2016-11-02 15:48:19] NL007 : zec futures could hit 0.75-1 [2016-11-02 15:48:20] laisee : 4got to register? [2016-11-02 15:48:22] rapidtrades : SHE'S UNDERAGE [2016-11-02 15:48:22] sally : habibi: thats my answer so refund me [2016-11-02 15:48:36] habibi : sally: nope, i changed my mind, sorry [2016-11-02 15:48:50] sally : habibi: oh cool, you must work at bitmex [2016-11-02 15:48:59] wurstgelee : habibi: u changed the contract! [2016-11-02 15:49:02] wurstgelee : :p [2016-11-02 15:49:02] sally : where the fuck are these muppets located? [2016-11-02 15:49:13] wurstgelee : bitmex? [2016-11-02 15:49:17] wurstgelee : or admins? [2016-11-02 15:49:22] sally : wurstgelee: bitmex [2016-11-02 15:49:22] rapidtrades : sally: we went from 0.4 to 0.565....u only lost 0.15 per contract [2016-11-02 15:49:29] wurstgelee : sally: seychelles [2016-11-02 15:49:33] wurstgelee : gl ;) [2016-11-02 15:49:34] laisee : sally == brit? [2016-11-02 15:49:59] habibi : sally: can we go back to filling complaint to SEC subject? [2016-11-02 15:50:34] sally : where do they actually work from [2016-11-02 15:50:40] sally : habibi: starts to get dangerous so rather not for now [2016-11-02 15:50:43] wurstgelee : HK most [2016-11-02 15:50:47] habibi : sally: from basement! [2016-11-02 15:50:57] sally : habibi: mums basement? [2016-11-02 15:51:17] habibi : sally: see, u already forgot about ur loss, u even trying to joke [2016-11-02 15:51:38] sally : habibi: come give me a cuddle [2016-11-02 15:52:02] sally : Its not about the money lol, I could not give a shit about that [2016-11-02 15:52:15] thomaskikansha : 35 market buy can bring us to 0.78 [2016-11-02 15:52:45] sally : Now can one of the mods please tell me where the office is? [2016-11-02 15:53:00] orly : sally: seriously, they probably don't even have an office [2016-11-02 15:53:22] orly : imo this is highly unregulated territory, if you trust an exchange, especially a futures market, it's your fault [2016-11-02 15:53:22] sally : orly: A location is fine [2016-11-02 15:53:53] arbitrage001 : sally: this is exchange, we live in new world [2016-11-02 15:54:01] arbitrage001 : they probably dont even have office [2016-11-02 15:54:16] arbitrage001 : wearing underwear to chat here [2016-11-02 15:54:33] sally : Im not joking. [2016-11-02 15:54:43] rapidtrades : cmon polo...finish the job [2016-11-02 15:55:22] arbitrage001 : the company registered in Seychelles [2016-11-02 15:55:29] wurstgelee : sally: HK [2016-11-02 15:55:31] wurstgelee : ffs [2016-11-02 15:55:44] sally : Why does everyone say Hong Kong> [2016-11-02 15:55:53] sally : Cant a mod give an address? [2016-11-02 15:55:54] arbitrage001 : sally: cuz their ceo [2016-11-02 15:56:00] arbitrage001 : arthur like gk girls [2016-11-02 15:56:02] rapidtrades : most of the partners are in HK [2016-11-02 15:56:08] arbitrage001 : hk girls [2016-11-02 15:56:15] arbitrage001 : so he hang out in hk [2016-11-02 15:56:21] wurstgelee : yep [2016-11-02 15:56:24] wurstgelee : HK [2016-11-02 15:56:25] wurstgelee : :) [2016-11-02 15:56:36] rapidtrades : i think the company is in the Seychelles tho [2016-11-02 15:57:30] wurstgelee : registered there, yep [2016-11-02 15:57:53] BitMEX_Wally : HDR Global Trading Limited, 2nd Floor, Capital City, Independence Avenue P.O. Box 1008, Victoria, Mahe, Republic of Seychelles [2016-11-02 15:57:57] sally : Im waiting for a mod to confirm a registered address. I would like to discuss in person as preference [2016-11-02 15:58:04] sally : perfect [2016-11-02 15:58:07] sleger : sally: its just above [2016-11-02 15:58:19] rapidtrades : yr gonna fly to HK for 1 btc? [2016-11-02 15:58:20] sleger : take your ticket to seychelles [2016-11-02 15:58:28] rapidtrades : but they're not there [2016-11-02 15:58:32] sleger : rapidtrades: address in seychelles [2016-11-02 15:58:33] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Is this where you guys will be or is it just a drop? [2016-11-02 15:58:34] rapidtrades : oh wait... [2016-11-02 15:58:46] BitMEX_Wally : sally: I don't think the PO Box will fit both of us in for a meeting [2016-11-02 15:58:50] sleger : sally: feel free to chat to their mailbox [2016-11-02 15:58:54] rapidtrades : wtf...does he wants to kill them over 1 btc [2016-11-02 15:59:02] rapidtrades : this is getting creepy [2016-11-02 15:59:09] sleger : rapidtrades: nigerians are crazy [2016-11-02 15:59:11] sally : rapidtrades: dont be ridiculous [2016-11-02 15:59:17] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: offices in HK right? [2016-11-02 15:59:29] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well can we schedule a meeting? [2016-11-02 15:59:35] rapidtrades : maybe he is in HK idk [2016-11-02 15:59:40] habibi : sally: what if i tell there is no law protecting ur ass... and its great? [2016-11-02 15:59:51] lilop : Explain what's going on? What will happen on Friday? [2016-11-02 16:00:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Do I need to come to hong kong or seychelles ? [2016-11-02 16:00:26] sleger : beaches are nicer in seychelles [2016-11-02 16:00:32] sally : sleger: true [2016-11-02 16:00:34] sleger : bitches on the other hand [2016-11-02 16:01:26] uzitgc : is there a way to check if there was a liquidation event on ZEC? [2016-11-02 16:01:36] sally : Ive got the week off and I want to check out the place and while im there I will discuss this matter [2016-11-02 16:02:02] BitMEX_Wally : uzitgc: They get published on the liquidation feed and the @REKT bot posts them to the trollbox [2016-11-02 16:02:13] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So where in Hong Kong is your office? [2016-11-02 16:02:22] uzitgc : thanks, where can I check the liquidation feed? [2016-11-02 16:02:42] rapidtrades : sally: 'Titties4bitcoin' strip club [2016-11-02 16:02:54] rapidtrades : that's where they usually hang out [2016-11-02 16:03:02] public username 321 : actually i have to say it's true nothing was really changed and a move in the market like this is actually really unexpected after giving it a further look. Settlement is still the same, right? [2016-11-02 16:03:15] BitMEX_Wally : uzitgc: You can subscribe like this: `wscat -c "wss://www.bitmex.com/realtime?subscribe=liquidation"` [2016-11-02 16:03:28] BitMEX_Wally : Or query outstanding liquidation orders via the REST API [2016-11-02 16:03:36] uzitgc : thank you [2016-11-02 16:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : public username 321: We have not announcement the settlement index yet but it is likely to be Poloniex. We will confirm around 1 December [2016-11-02 16:04:52] rapidtrades : it will be polo 90%...unless some chinese exchange picks up ZEC [2016-11-02 16:04:54] public username 321 : BitMEX_Wally: all good but next time you do something like this give at least 5 days prior notice via email. Thanks! [2016-11-02 16:04:54] sally : BitMEX_Wally: What are you hiding? Give me your hong kong office [2016-11-02 16:05:19] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Come to Beijing TechCrunch next week and I'll buy you a beer [2016-11-02 16:05:47] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: u sure cost of beer will not exceed ur earnings in fees from him? [2016-11-02 16:05:57] TwinnerD : habibi: lit [2016-11-02 16:06:02] BitMEX_Wally : I think @DangerandPlay might come for a beer too [2016-11-02 16:07:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I will search that now but I still want to know HK office [2016-11-02 16:07:12] rapidtrades : next week's headline ''Three people killed at Beijing TechCrunch by crazed woman'' [2016-11-02 16:07:21] blacktuesday : zec bids at the front of the book [2016-11-02 16:07:29] blacktuesday : lets get this up to 1.0 [2016-11-02 16:07:33] habibi : "by sally woman" [2016-11-02 16:07:44] blacktuesday : market buy zec [2016-11-02 16:07:54] sally : habibi: funny thing is sallys got a dick [2016-11-02 16:07:55] BitMEX_Wally : sally: We do not have a HK office. We hang out in Pure Yoga most of the time though [2016-11-02 16:08:16] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Yeah I read the article [2016-11-02 16:08:43] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So we do a yoga session and then some boxing lol [2016-11-02 16:08:59] habibi : Sally got a dick sounds like a bad cover of "jenny's got a gun" [2016-11-02 16:09:36] blacktuesday : butthurt is a real thing... [2016-11-02 16:09:46] TwinnerD : sally: come and visit me in seychelles. we can checkout their PO box together [2016-11-02 16:09:54] rapidtrades : lol [2016-11-02 16:10:08] sally : BitMEX_Wally: which location? [2016-11-02 16:10:20] sally : TwinnerD: get my flights and im all in [2016-11-02 16:10:41] TwinnerD : you made 25k, you can spare the 1.5k [2016-11-02 16:11:07] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: is there any secured external access to multi sig keys in case any guys of u will be lost? [2016-11-02 16:11:31] blacktuesday : "lost" lol [2016-11-02 16:11:43] rapidtrades : afaik the chip is embedded in their head @habibi [2016-11-02 16:11:59] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: doesnt sound very secure [2016-11-02 16:12:06] sally : Which one wally http://www.pure-yoga.com/hongkong/locations [2016-11-02 16:12:32] rapidtrades : the one with the trannies [2016-11-02 16:12:40] BitMEX_Wally : sally: What rapidtrades said [2016-11-02 16:12:49] sally : rapidtrades: I like trannies [2016-11-02 16:12:57] rapidtrades : ur weird [2016-11-02 16:13:08] blacktuesday : so... how about those bitcoin markets? [2016-11-02 16:13:36] rapidtrades : where's the geek [2016-11-02 16:13:43] rapidtrades : altehrious or whatever [2016-11-02 16:14:00] rapidtrades : bet we will hear more QQ from him [2016-11-02 16:14:03] sally : BitMEX_Wally: No serious now. Your inability to provide a location is actually concerning me [2016-11-02 16:14:34] habibi : who cares about ur concerns [2016-11-02 16:15:46] BitMEX_Wally : sally: What is your country of residence? [2016-11-02 16:15:58] BitMEX_Wally : Your IP address is from a different country from your claimed one, so I have my concerns [2016-11-02 16:16:40] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Wally: I seriously doubt you can make any assumption based on an IP address (VPN ...) [2016-11-02 16:16:41] rapidtrades : so many concerns all around [2016-11-02 16:17:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I route all traffic as standard [2016-11-02 16:17:31] rapidtrades : wtf does that mean [2016-11-02 16:17:36] habibi : sally: what are u trying to hide? is this a vote for Hillary? or a Trump? [2016-11-02 16:17:51] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Im actually a nice guy and I would love to do some yoga [2016-11-02 16:18:26] rapidtrades : sally: u should be buying bitmex guys a beer after they bailed u out [2016-11-02 16:18:31] Cheese : president camacho [2016-11-02 16:18:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah I don't like the sound of the boxing though [2016-11-02 16:18:52] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Lol none of that Im just trolling [2016-11-02 16:19:15] blacktuesday : trolltrace.com [2016-11-02 16:19:25] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Unless you guys enjoy that sort of thing in a professional way [2016-11-02 16:19:47] sally : like a gym session [2016-11-02 16:20:04] AudibleScience : sally: oh so you're a bloke! [2016-11-02 16:20:14] sally : AudibleScience: no. Sally with a dick [2016-11-02 16:20:19] habibi : sally: Satoshi in 2011 claimed that bitmex is the most professional bitcoin exchange ever, how u can argue with that? [2016-11-02 16:21:10] sally : habibi: I smoked a joint with satoshi back in 09 and we laughed about the genesis block. No biggie [2016-11-02 16:21:28] AudibleScience : sally: that makes no sense. Are you a chick with a dick or what then? [2016-11-02 16:21:48] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So maybe you guys can teach me some yoga and trading [2016-11-02 16:21:51] habibi : chick with dick is not longer a chick [2016-11-02 16:22:10] sally : habibi: it is. As long as she has a pretty face [2016-11-02 16:22:53] AudibleScience : habibi: agreed lol [2016-11-02 16:23:24] BitMEX_Wally : sally: You'll have to ask Arthur, he leads the yoga session. [2016-11-02 16:23:55] BitMEX_Wally : Bed time for me, night night [2016-11-02 16:24:15] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Thats cool. And maybe during the evening we check out Arkhan [2016-11-02 16:24:41] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I want to buy my ticket today [2016-11-02 16:25:25] wurstgelee : i love those 5 lights @ zec next to polo price ;) [2016-11-02 16:25:57] rapidtrades : 5 lights means ur doing things right son! [2016-11-02 16:26:20] wurstgelee : hehe [2016-11-02 16:27:41] kingkrung : what does cost mean in "Place Order". and why is it so hig in ZECZ16? [2016-11-02 16:27:45] kingkrung : is it a fee? [2016-11-02 16:28:21] wurstgelee : what does it say? [2016-11-02 16:28:24] wurstgelee : which value? [2016-11-02 16:28:42] TwinnerD : kingkrung: because of 2x its 50% of order value [2016-11-02 16:28:43] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: that is your maintenance margin [2016-11-02 16:29:23] kingkrung : @arbitrage001 ok [2016-11-02 16:29:26] kingkrung : thanks [2016-11-02 16:29:43] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: maintenance margic is 50% for zcash [2016-11-02 16:29:57] arbitrage001 : total value should be double [2016-11-02 16:30:09] arbitrage001 : and fee is 0.25% for taker, 0% for maker [2016-11-02 16:30:16] public username 321 : coming right back down. It was just noise. [2016-11-02 16:30:19] arbitrage001 : settlement fee, i am not sure how much [2016-11-02 16:30:43] arbitrage001 : public username 321: push it down more [2016-11-02 16:30:45] chromaticcr1 : 0.25% [2016-11-02 16:30:52] arbitrage001 : i have more bid around 0.25 [2016-11-02 16:30:58] arbitrage001 : and 0.2 [2016-11-02 16:31:00] public username 321 : arbitrage001: i'm trading small. Not pushing things around [2016-11-02 16:31:14] wurstgelee : public username 321: sorry for taking profits :p [2016-11-02 16:33:02] public username 321 : wurstgelee: yeah, you're the happy tiger of the box, eh? [2016-11-02 16:33:08] public username 321 : :p [2016-11-02 16:33:49] wurstgelee : i recently am. unless i ht some invisible surprise wall [2016-11-02 16:34:14] wurstgelee : which gets removed but hen suddenly not removed until it gets pushed up but not removed oO [2016-11-02 16:34:18] public username 321 : wurstgelee: was it you who pushed the price up? [2016-11-02 16:34:24] wurstgelee : public username 321: nope [2016-11-02 16:34:29] wurstgelee : didnt buy a single contract [2016-11-02 16:34:37] wurstgelee : in the last few hours [2016-11-02 16:34:39] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-02 16:34:47] arbitrage001 : some short probably got scare [2016-11-02 16:34:52] wurstgelee : yeah, prob [2016-11-02 16:35:06] arbitrage001 : i know i wouldnt be able to sleep well if i short [2016-11-02 16:35:12] wurstgelee : i am patiently waiting in the feeding range... [2016-11-02 16:35:14] wurstgelee : as usual [2016-11-02 16:35:15] wurstgelee : =) [2016-11-02 16:35:31] TwinnerD : wurstgelee: welches bunderland bist du eig? [2016-11-02 16:35:35] TwinnerD : bundes* [2016-11-02 16:35:37] wurstgelee : hamburg [2016-11-02 16:35:45] TwinnerD : moin moin [2016-11-02 16:35:56] wurstgelee : moin ;) [2016-11-02 16:36:03] wurstgelee : du? [2016-11-02 16:36:20] TwinnerD : Wien [2016-11-02 16:36:34] wurstgelee : da wohnt mein bruder ;) [2016-11-02 16:37:13] TwinnerD : nice [2016-11-02 16:37:35] TwinnerD : soon someone will ban us for using the wrong language [2016-11-02 16:41:26] mjones : Can i be mod? [2016-11-02 16:41:57] mjones : Trollbox mod [2016-11-02 16:44:16] sally : we dont need mods here [2016-11-02 16:48:59] Higgsy : Anywhere I can go where it shows how to short and then set stop/loss etc? [2016-11-02 16:49:05] wurstgelee : watching u btc [2016-11-02 16:49:09] wurstgelee : watching u.. [2016-11-02 16:49:09] sleger : we didnt need sally either yet here he is [2016-11-02 16:50:05] wurstgelee : Higgsy: https://testnet.bitmex.com/ [2016-11-02 16:50:10] wurstgelee : learning by doing for free [2016-11-02 16:50:47] Higgsy : Awesome cheers! [2016-11-02 17:00:56] Higgsy : I have to send BTC into the the testnet account just to play around?.... [2016-11-02 17:00:58] Higgsy : fuck that [2016-11-02 17:01:07] TwinnerD : no [2016-11-02 17:01:10] TwinnerD : testnet btc [2016-11-02 17:01:10] TwinnerD : lol [2016-11-02 17:01:21] TwinnerD : http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/ [2016-11-02 17:04:28] Higgsy : cheers [2016-11-02 17:34:02] jeeburns : Question, if i'm doing futures dec 30 (100x) platform and I have bitcoin that isn't in my trade, if my liquidation price gets hit will it take from my account to cover so I don't get margin called? [2016-11-02 17:35:01] TwinnerD : yes if you select cross margin [2016-11-02 17:36:22] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: As TwinnerD mentions, that is correct if you select Cross margin. Cross will use all available margin to prevent a liquidation event. You can read further about the different margining methods here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin [2016-11-02 17:47:11] jeeburns : ok thank you! [2016-11-02 17:52:50] Cryptlex : Hey, do i still get the maker fee when I used hidden or iceburg? [2016-11-02 17:53:50] Smartass : arbitrage001: you are a wise man.. so many tears i cried because of my shorts... [2016-11-02 17:55:19] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: You pay taker fee on the hidden section [2016-11-02 17:55:35] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees#Order-Type-Exceptions [2016-11-02 17:55:43] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: thanks [2016-11-02 17:59:57] y1uy : BitMEX_Greg: what are cross orders? [2016-11-02 18:00:22] BitMEX_Greg : y1uy: We don't have cross orders. What I refer to above is Cross Margin [2016-11-02 18:00:40] BitMEX_Greg : This is a margining method which uses all available margin to cover a position. [2016-11-02 18:00:46] BitMEX_Greg : all available balance* rather [2016-11-02 18:01:52] y1uy : BitMEX_Greg: how do u set up hidden order? [2016-11-02 18:02:01] y1uy : oh never mind [2016-11-02 18:02:05] y1uy : found it [2016-11-02 18:02:17] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: the funding rate on perpetual swaps is determined by the premium/discount over the index for a given period? [2016-11-02 18:03:25] QuantFocus : nm, think i found it here [2016-11-02 18:06:11] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: Ok cool, here is the guide just fyi: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2016-11-02 18:06:42] rx84 : Looking at the formula for Futures Fair Price, doesn't everything just cancel out and Fair Price === Impact Mid Price?? [2016-11-02 18:09:43] messiaen8844 : Greg [2016-11-02 18:09:49] messiaen8844 : what happens after ETHXBT expires? new swap or futures? [2016-11-02 18:10:26] j8 : pretty much, except that calculation is only done every 30 seconds or so (i think), and in between the fair price follows changes in the spot price @rx84 [2016-11-02 18:10:42] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: ETHXBT is a swap, it doesn't expire [2016-11-02 18:11:05] sleger : ??? [2016-11-02 18:11:09] sleger : yes it does [2016-11-02 18:11:10] BitMEX_Greg : Sorry* [2016-11-02 18:11:17] sleger : its a perpetual swap that expires soon [2016-11-02 18:11:24] messiaen8844 : then another one begins? [2016-11-02 18:11:29] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: a futures contract is being put in its place* a 7 Day futures contract [2016-11-02 18:11:30] sleger : nope its dead [2016-11-02 18:11:35] messiaen8844 : ah, nice [2016-11-02 18:11:37] messiaen8844 : thanks [2016-11-02 18:11:45] sleger : nice ? no [2016-11-02 18:17:45] sleger : new btcc usd exchange, with rebates for makers [2016-11-02 18:18:33] rapidtrades : we need zec margin not new btcusd exchange [2016-11-02 18:20:08] rapidtrades : is anyone a kraken regular? can u confirm that they add margin one week after listing like that guy was saying [2016-11-02 18:20:47] rapidtrades : (check ur email) [2016-11-02 18:21:24] messiaen8844 : margin to shoart zec? [2016-11-02 18:21:31] rapidtrades : yes [2016-11-02 18:21:39] messiaen8844 : let it fist stabilize [2016-11-02 18:21:42] messiaen8844 : then they can add 10x [2016-11-02 18:21:50] rapidtrades : 5x afaik? [2016-11-02 18:22:12] rapidtrades : im talking about kraken yo [2016-11-02 18:30:38] thomaskikansha : zec pump [2016-11-02 18:31:02] rapidtrades : Fury 2 has been lauched [2016-11-02 18:32:56] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: is Sam around? [2016-11-02 18:33:34] Sidwick : going back up to 3 or 4 within the hour [2016-11-02 18:38:44] rapidtrades : needs to break 2 first :) [2016-11-02 18:39:30] thomaskikansha : ~160BTC till 2 [2016-11-02 18:45:39] TwinnerD : Sidwick: if it would go to 3-4 here, 400 of 423 contracts would surely be liquidated [2016-11-02 18:46:22] wurstgelee : lol polo.... [2016-11-02 18:46:30] rapidtrades : PAIN [2016-11-02 18:46:39] rapidtrades : look it up shorts [2016-11-02 18:46:40] thomaskikansha : the futures price would follow much even if spot go to 3 or 4 [2016-11-02 18:46:44] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: whats up [2016-11-02 18:46:51] thomaskikansha : wouldn't [2016-11-02 18:46:54] wurstgelee : someone is serious about that pump ;) [2016-11-02 18:47:00] imabeast : ruh roh [2016-11-02 18:47:02] rapidtrades : thomaskikansha: it will now :) [2016-11-02 18:47:06] imabeast : zec 2btc? [2016-11-02 18:47:24] imabeast : i think it goes to 2.5 [2016-11-02 18:47:29] imabeast : lolol [2016-11-02 18:47:36] NL007 : maybe 2 [2016-11-02 18:47:47] thomaskikansha : volume kicks in [2016-11-02 18:47:56] wurstgelee : mission withdraw-from-suprnova initiated [2016-11-02 18:48:00] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-11-02 18:48:04] rapidtrades : woooo [2016-11-02 18:48:07] NL007 : lol [2016-11-02 18:48:15] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: i'm trying to set up my MM but getting an error after executing [2016-11-02 18:48:37] wurstgelee : 1.6 [2016-11-02 18:48:40] rapidtrades : holy shit polo is srs [2016-11-02 18:48:46] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: Can you send us a support ticket? I'll have Sam check it out when he's free [2016-11-02 18:48:49] wurstgelee : lol. didnt expect it but maybe [2016-11-02 18:49:05] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: ok, i can do that. thanks man [2016-11-02 18:49:07] rapidtrades : Fury 2 underway [2016-11-02 18:49:08] wurstgelee : 1.7 ... [2016-11-02 18:49:10] wurstgelee : crazy fuckers [2016-11-02 18:49:11] BitMEX_Greg : np [2016-11-02 18:49:14] imabeast : that 180 btc buy wall [2016-11-02 18:49:15] imabeast : ahhaa [2016-11-02 18:49:19] wurstgelee : rofl [2016-11-02 18:49:22] thomaskikansha : wtf [2016-11-02 18:49:22] NL007 : zcash is dangerous [2016-11-02 18:49:24] imabeast : nvm nto there any more [2016-11-02 18:49:26] BitMEX_Greg : big green dildo [2016-11-02 18:49:28] imabeast : hahah [2016-11-02 18:49:32] rapidtrades : this is gone [2016-11-02 18:49:38] NL007 : viagra and boom [2016-11-02 18:49:41] rapidtrades : u have secs to buy [2016-11-02 18:50:04] NL007 : 1.76 [2016-11-02 18:50:07] wurstgelee : crazy shit [2016-11-02 18:50:25] rapidtrades : 1000 liqs incoming :) [2016-11-02 18:50:36] rapidtrades : sry 100 [2016-11-02 18:50:56] NL007 : check buy support 1400btc [2016-11-02 18:50:58] thomaskikansha : lol 400BTC wall at 1.3 [2016-11-02 18:51:38] rapidtrades : thats roger ver [2016-11-02 18:52:07] wurstgelee : u are roger ver [2016-11-02 18:52:14] rapidtrades : :) [2016-11-02 18:54:11] QuantFocus : :knife: [2016-11-02 18:55:39] NL007 : 1 big investor can buy up whole zec supply on polo [2016-11-02 18:57:11] Rado : one big crazy investor [2016-11-02 18:58:29] thomaskikansha : 200BTC at 1.3 400BTC at 1.27 [2016-11-02 18:58:54] thomaskikansha : shits getting real [2016-11-02 18:59:11] messiaen8844 : lol, the P&Ds are real [2016-11-02 18:59:13] NL007 : create shortage of zec price goes bezerk and he sells a few coins for 500-1000btc a coin and has his investment back [2016-11-02 18:59:23] messiaen8844 : probably miners playing [2016-11-02 18:59:30] messiaen8844 : to sell their coins with more profit [2016-11-02 18:59:55] rapidtrades : shorts here need their heads examined [2016-11-02 19:00:09] NL007 : 1.8btc [2016-11-02 19:03:52] thomaskikansha : omg wicked to 2 [2016-11-02 19:03:56] rapidtrades : if u entered below 1 u have minutes to get out, or get liqed....just imo [2016-11-02 19:04:37] thomaskikansha : ask sum down to 280ZEC