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[2016-11-02 15:19:39] wurstgelee : sally: u r funny
[2016-11-02 15:20:10] wurstgelee : public username 321: no. the enable the marking always stated in the rules as per announcement.
[2016-11-02 15:20:13] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Im dead serious mate. Your going to refund that.
[2016-11-02 15:20:14] wurstgelee : *they
[2016-11-02 15:20:15] thomaskikansha : dooming 1.22
[2016-11-02 15:20:24] TwinnerD : sally: wanna bet on that?
[2016-11-02 15:20:26] public username 321 : i don't think that's best practice to change rules during an active market
[2016-11-02 15:20:28] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Submit a support ticket
[2016-11-02 15:20:32] RoftheN : Now I'm curious on what's being refunded
[2016-11-02 15:20:33] habibi : sally: u are us resident and still crying here? BitMEX_Wally has some internal problems with ban feature i guess
[2016-11-02 15:20:37] wurstgelee : public username 321: its no change. it was always in the rules
[2016-11-02 15:20:54] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: If he is a US resident it won't be a chat ban but an account ban :)
[2016-11-02 15:20:57] wurstgelee : habibi: lol
[2016-11-02 15:21:02] sally : Changing contract spec. Very simple
[2016-11-02 15:21:13] public username 321 : wurstgelee: obviously it had an effect on the market so don't try to tell me nothing was changed because im'm not that stupid
[2016-11-02 15:21:24] sally : Im from nigeria so relax
[2016-11-02 15:21:31] laisee : pls write what changed on contract ...
[2016-11-02 15:21:37] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Read our terms and conditions, we reserve the right to declare Market Disruption Event and change contracts etc
[2016-11-02 15:21:42] wurstgelee : public username 321: ofc it had an effect. but since this was always part of the contract, i positioned myself accordingly
[2016-11-02 15:21:59] rapidtrades : public username 321: yeah and putting the cap and marking to last had effect too....i've been suffering since 3
[2016-11-02 15:22:02] public username 321 : laisee: i'm about to figure out but since i din't loose anthing i'm more inclined to just leave
[2016-11-02 15:22:04] sally : BitMEX_Wally: wtf?
[2016-11-02 15:22:18] sally : you can change contracts
[2016-11-02 15:22:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 724.03
[2016-11-02 15:22:36] zecz : so the auto liq. price will go up heavy if there is a big spread between ZECZ16 and polo ? not like now when the a.liq. price is based on last trade in ZECZ16?
[2016-11-02 15:22:43] aili : so how exatcly will the price be calc? i still dont get it? the price will match the polo price?
[2016-11-02 15:22:43] rapidtrades : dude the cap was never in the terms and the marking was supposed to happen @sally
[2016-11-02 15:22:53] aili : whil its still a future contract?
[2016-11-02 15:23:23] sally : its no longer a futures contact
[2016-11-02 15:23:25] rapidtrades : well this is ur mess bitmex, start chatting with ur customers, im out
[2016-11-02 15:23:26] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/terms
[2016-11-02 15:23:55] aili : so it will match the polo price?
[2016-11-02 15:23:58] aili : BitMEX_Wally: ?
[2016-11-02 15:24:16] NL007 : aili: maybe
[2016-11-02 15:24:25] arbitrage001 : can you make it match my price?
[2016-11-02 15:24:32] public username 321 : the mail: "Switching over from Last Price marking to Fair Price marking will not result in a sudden movement in the Mark Price."
[2016-11-02 15:24:33] arbitrage001 : 1000btc per zec
[2016-11-02 15:24:52] BitMEX_Wally : aili: The fair basis rate will be adjusted to keep the fair price in-line with the order book here
[2016-11-02 15:25:00] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: can you expand on this and what exaclty means?
[2016-11-02 15:25:03] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: "Switching over from Last Price marking to Fair Price marking will not result in a sudden movement in the Mark Price."
[2016-11-02 15:25:16] Rado : everyone calm down
[2016-11-02 15:25:20] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: wat does this mean: The fair basis rate will be adjusted to keep the fair price in-line with the order book here
[2016-11-02 15:25:26] Rado : the price will not move much
[2016-11-02 15:25:27] BitMEX_Wally : This is the same marking method used for the other futures, for example XBTZ16
[2016-11-02 15:25:31] sally : BitMEX_Wally: fair price is what the market decides here
[2016-11-02 15:25:33] Rado : the move you just saw, that is it
[2016-11-02 15:25:36] RoftheN : Funny how poloniex is crashing while Bitmex went up
[2016-11-02 15:25:39] public username 321 : well it obviously resulted in sudden price move
[2016-11-02 15:25:39] shiroe : wow fct going x20. yeaaa
[2016-11-02 15:25:41] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: can you expand?
[2016-11-02 15:25:48] arbitrage001 : sally: fair price is what i decide
[2016-11-02 15:25:56] habibi : i would like to introduce u "Rado The Expert"
[2016-11-02 15:25:58] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-11-02 15:26:07] chromaticcr1 : fair price is what you guys decide
[2016-11-02 15:26:10] sally : arbitrage001: back in your corner.
[2016-11-02 15:26:18] arbitrage001 : 1000 btc per zec
[2016-11-02 15:26:31] BitMEX_Wally : For example, the current fair basis rate is -334% which has been set automatically by the Impact Mid Price method.
[2016-11-02 15:26:32] fridd : yew
[2016-11-02 15:26:38] BitMEX_Wally : This gives a fair price of 0.57
[2016-11-02 15:26:48] sally : bitmex just shafted every person on the previous contract to favour longs
[2016-11-02 15:26:58] sally : well done guys. well done
[2016-11-02 15:27:10] chromaticcr1 : and before you guys pumped it, it was -450% @ ~0.37
[2016-11-02 15:27:22] NL007 : this is really not funny
[2016-11-02 15:27:25] sleger : sally: it will settle on polo price anyways, always was going to be
[2016-11-02 15:27:30] sally : Influencing markets
[2016-11-02 15:27:34] habibi : sally: could u stop crying? it become pretty rainy chat since u started
[2016-11-02 15:27:37] sleger : it doesnt matter
[2016-11-02 15:27:54] zecz : the market price will be based on the last trade on polo, not the last trade here. So it will be hard not to get auto liq when you short and there is a big spread I guess
[2016-11-02 15:28:03] sleger : sally: if you're nigerian im sure you can scam some people out to make your money back easily
[2016-11-02 15:28:13] sally : habibi: No. Your long and are getting wet about minimising your losses
[2016-11-02 15:28:18] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Wally: so that will be the average price of bid and ask available at the time fair basis is used?
[2016-11-02 15:28:24] NL007 : zecz: yes
[2016-11-02 15:28:25] BitMEX_Wally : The fair price is a combination of the Poloniex ZEC price and the fair basis rate, and the fair basis rate is calculated using the ZECZ16 order book
[2016-11-02 15:28:46] RoftheN : What's the big deal here? This seems quite good to me
[2016-11-02 15:28:49] sally : BitMEX_Wally: so its changed?
[2016-11-02 15:28:51] NL007 : shorters just got fuked
[2016-11-02 15:28:51] habibi : sally: losses? on longs here? when? where?
[2016-11-02 15:29:04] BitMEX_Wally : sally: We are not using the fair price yet, that is 12:00 UTC Friday
[2016-11-02 15:29:05] sleger : sally: the change was planned
[2016-11-02 15:29:13] Rado : NL007: not really
[2016-11-02 15:29:18] Rado : shorts are just fine
[2016-11-02 15:29:20] zecz : for example, whats the fair price right now? which auto liq price would u get trying to short at 0,5
[2016-11-02 15:29:22] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, we just planned it and gave 40 hours notice...
[2016-11-02 15:29:38] public username 321 : Will you change it back later without prior warning if your short are under water?
[2016-11-02 15:29:55] BitMEX_Wally : zecz: Your liquidation price is determined by your entry price and leverage, not the current fair price
[2016-11-02 15:30:02] Rado : BitMEX can't make everyone happy it seems
[2016-11-02 15:30:04] imabeast : should have gave a week notice
[2016-11-02 15:30:12] imabeast : that would have been fair
[2016-11-02 15:30:13] aili : =)
[2016-11-02 15:30:15] sally : BitMEX_Wally: you just made a %75 change in the market
[2016-11-02 15:30:17] RoftheN : So I short like at 0.6 here today and the price will stay around that. But friday Polo is on 1.6 BTC? Will I suddenly get liquidated even if till friday the price here stays 0.6?
[2016-11-02 15:30:17] Rado : If I was in charge I will tell everyone to fuck off
[2016-11-02 15:30:18] thomaskikansha : BitMEX_Wally: so if we have negative premium on the ZEC futures, the premium narrows toward the expiry day?
[2016-11-02 15:30:22] aili : well 2 days uallis y enough
[2016-11-02 15:30:23] fenjamin : hi, if we want to list an index do you support ETFs?
[2016-11-02 15:30:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1 @ 0.001248
[2016-11-02 15:30:33] BitMEX_Wally : As per our previous announcements, we said we would give 24 hours notice: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/note-on-zec-price-cap/
[2016-11-02 15:30:37] sleger : sally: it doesnt matter, all shorts will get REKT on zec anyways
[2016-11-02 15:30:54] sally : BitMEX_Wally: did you email that?
[2016-11-02 15:30:59] RoftheN : We all know ZEC is overvalued and yet we shorters can't profit easily
[2016-11-02 15:31:29] BitMEX_Wally : thomaskikansha: Yes the basis rate is quoted in annualised terms and then applied based on the time to expiry
[2016-11-02 15:31:33] habibi : RoftheN: LOL, why u simply did not ask Bitmex for some money instead trading?
[2016-11-02 15:31:43] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Yes it was emailed and put on the blog and posted as an announcement here
[2016-11-02 15:31:55] arbitrage001 : habibi: agree. why not just send me btc
[2016-11-02 15:32:03] sleger : and discussed over extensively on the chat
[2016-11-02 15:32:06] arbitrage001 : tire of longing and watching people get rekt
[2016-11-02 15:32:19] blacktuesday : don;t short the fomo
[2016-11-02 15:32:24] sally : BitMEX_Wally: so you changed ZECZ16 to a futures contract of when you would ann this?
[2016-11-02 15:32:30] RoftheN : Bitmex, can I have some money?
[2016-11-02 15:32:49] sleger : sally: ZECZ16 <= futures in the name
[2016-11-02 15:33:06] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Changing the mark method does not change the value of the future, that is for the market to decide
[2016-11-02 15:33:16] arbitrage001 : oo, zecz16 is a future contract?
[2016-11-02 15:33:39] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well it just did mate. You knew that so dont lie to me
[2016-11-02 15:33:42] RoftheN : Why not just add a spot market for Zec then instead of change this one?
[2016-11-02 15:33:45] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: so to make this clear, on Friday at 12:00 u will take a snapshot of the orderbook to derive the fair basis rate applied
[2016-11-02 15:33:45] chromaticcr1 : oh ZECZ16 is cash settled?
[2016-11-02 15:33:55] zecz : BitMEX_Wally: "All ADL contracts are subject to Fair Price Marking. Also note that Fair Price Marking only affects the Liquidation Price and Unrealised PNL, it does not affect Realised PNL."
[2016-11-02 15:33:57] BitMEX_Wally : sally: If the market is irrational then that's its problem
[2016-11-02 15:34:10] BitMEX_Wally : zecz: Correct
[2016-11-02 15:34:11] sleger : conclusion : dont trade with dummies
[2016-11-02 15:34:21] zecz : but it doesnät effect auto Liquidation price?
[2016-11-02 15:34:25] NL007 : BitMEX_Wally: every change influences the market
[2016-11-02 15:34:30] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well you just made it my problem. And my problem is now your problem
[2016-11-02 15:34:34] sleger : dummies can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent @sally
[2016-11-02 15:34:43] chromaticcr1 : sleger: +1
[2016-11-02 15:34:57] rapidtrades : sleger knows he lost over 10k shorting ZEC
[2016-11-02 15:35:02] arbitrage001 : sleger: trading with dummies is how most of us here make money
[2016-11-02 15:35:02] laisee : +1
[2016-11-02 15:35:07] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: what is sally's liquidation price, I just had an idea of a game ?
[2016-11-02 15:35:07] BitMEX_Wally : zecz: It affects when you get liquidated, but not the liquidation price of your position
[2016-11-02 15:35:08] NL007 : rapidtrades: wow
[2016-11-02 15:35:09] public username 321 : not the best advertisement for the platform ...
[2016-11-02 15:35:11] rapidtrades : now he knows better and educates young ppl against it
[2016-11-02 15:35:27] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: what decides the chat username color? Age?
[2016-11-02 15:35:42] sleger : TwinnerD: i told you
[2016-11-02 15:35:49] public username 321 : if i were bitmex i'd reimburse the loosers in this to keep a good image
[2016-11-02 15:35:51] fiero : any advice for BitMEX newbie on which type of trade takes minimum investment.. (Only BTC or ETH) ?
[2016-11-02 15:35:58] BitMEX_Wally : public username 321: You sound like sally's sockpuppet
[2016-11-02 15:36:07] fml : Lol
[2016-11-02 15:36:08] BitMEX_Wally : TwinnerD: I'm not sure, have to ask Sam
[2016-11-02 15:36:09] sally : BitMEX_Wally: im here on my own
[2016-11-02 15:36:12] public username 321 : lol
[2016-11-02 15:36:24] sally : your going to joke about this? @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-11-02 15:36:28] RoftheN : does that mean I'm gay?
[2016-11-02 15:36:28] sleger : sally: we can see, noone is taking your side
[2016-11-02 15:36:38] sleger : sally: you're not your
[2016-11-02 15:36:39] habibi : TwinnerD: u need to pay to upgrade ur color, dark green is the highest rank here
[2016-11-02 15:37:04] TwinnerD : habibi: dank meme
[2016-11-02 15:37:05] RoftheN : apparently dark green is the color you get when you're a bullshitter
[2016-11-02 15:37:17] aili : ok, so i guess we should pump zec than =)
[2016-11-02 15:37:25] habibi : RoftheN: dont cry, be a man
[2016-11-02 15:37:26] RoftheN : Yeah pump zec
[2016-11-02 15:37:27] laisee : habibi: sleger was cheated, then
[2016-11-02 15:37:30] rapidtrades : instead of bitching shorts should take a look at the orderbook and make a decision
[2016-11-02 15:37:40] rapidtrades : personally 0.56 seems very generous
[2016-11-02 15:37:56] sleger : it's now or never
[2016-11-02 15:37:57] Rado : habibi: it's blue :-)
[2016-11-02 15:37:58] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yeah, dont short if you dont have the margin!
[2016-11-02 15:38:01] NL007 : rapidtrades: lol
[2016-11-02 15:38:04] sally : when is withdraw ?
[2016-11-02 15:38:26] imabeast : i hope someone pumps polo
[2016-11-02 15:38:31] sleger : sally: if you promise to leave the chat, maybe admin should make an exception ?
[2016-11-02 15:38:55] BitMEX_Wally : Ok the colour of your name is based on the hash of your name, so it's random. Except for sleger who paid more for green
[2016-11-02 15:39:01] Rado : imabeast: why would they do it? No one wants to lose money
[2016-11-02 15:39:03] rapidtrades : me too
[2016-11-02 15:39:07] rapidtrades : i paid more
[2016-11-02 15:39:17] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: that sounds wrong. My name was red a few days ago :D
[2016-11-02 15:39:18] RoftheN : Not sure if serious or not
[2016-11-02 15:39:22] sally : fuck me 21 hrs to withdraw
[2016-11-02 15:39:23] laisee : paid more == lost moar
[2016-11-02 15:39:39] TwinnerD : maybe I am starting to imagine things
[2016-11-02 15:39:41] AudibleScience : sally: what's your position size anyway, just out of interest?
[2016-11-02 15:39:51] sleger : and liq price ?
[2016-11-02 15:40:00] public username 321 : AudibleScience: why would that matter?
[2016-11-02 15:40:13] sleger : public username 321: oh you used the wrong window to answer
[2016-11-02 15:40:19] rapidtrades : man a polo pump now would be a god sent...the perfect storm
[2016-11-02 15:40:26] laisee : public sally> we might raise a fund to buy 1 way ticket
[2016-11-02 15:40:30] sally : AudibleScience: I made over 25k on zec day 1-2 and lost about 1btc today
[2016-11-02 15:40:46] TwinnerD : sally: why so salty then?
[2016-11-02 15:40:49] public username 321 : yeah, i see how this is handled. I don't like it and won't recommend this platform in the future.
[2016-11-02 15:40:49] sally : not about the money at all
[2016-11-02 15:40:53] arbitrage001 : sally: then you shouldnt complain
[2016-11-02 15:41:08] sleger : arbitrage001: i disagree with that
[2016-11-02 15:41:20] TwinnerD : change his name from sally to salty and let him continue to chat
[2016-11-02 15:41:26] sally : I will spend more than that proving a point
[2016-11-02 15:41:28] sleger : let's say your trade made 100k and bitmex says they will only give you 50k, would you be ok ?
[2016-11-02 15:41:38] rapidtrades : I made $$$ on ZEC too but i complained as well
[2016-11-02 15:41:49] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: you dont say.... :D
[2016-11-02 15:41:51] sleger : I lost $$ on zec but I never complained
[2016-11-02 15:41:54] public username 321 : they could avergage out winners and looser
[2016-11-02 15:41:54] wurstgelee : hrhr
[2016-11-02 15:41:59] AudibleScience : sally: you seem pretty irrational to me
[2016-11-02 15:42:07] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: lots of fight going on
[2016-11-02 15:42:14] arbitrage001 : pls add fuel to it
[2016-11-02 15:42:28] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: reading. bowl of popcorn next to me
[2016-11-02 15:42:28] public username 321 : or roll back those trades
[2016-11-02 15:42:42] sally : losing to market is fine. I do it everyday. Losing to manipulation and contact amending is not
[2016-11-02 15:42:43] rapidtrades : trades are never rolled back
[2016-11-02 15:43:07] public username 321 : rapidtrades: but rules changed mid game?
[2016-11-02 15:43:10] wurstgelee : sally: you lost to not reading or understanding the specs of the contracts you agreed on
[2016-11-02 15:43:10] sally : screwing your customers to look after your MM is not ok in my books
[2016-11-02 15:43:12] AudibleScience : sally: 25k what anyway? $ or satoshi?
[2016-11-02 15:43:15] rapidtrades : wait...did they rollback those trades on btcjpy?
[2016-11-02 15:43:26] wurstgelee : public username 321: the rules were always there and are unchanged
[2016-11-02 15:43:52] rapidtrades : public username 321: they gave u a helping hand for a few days and now they're taking i away...simple
[2016-11-02 15:43:55] sally : They just influenced the market +%75
[2016-11-02 15:44:06] wurstgelee : sally: the rule influenced it
[2016-11-02 15:44:08] laisee : does anyone know a lawyer? :-0
[2016-11-02 15:44:09] sleger : but the change was planned dummy
[2016-11-02 15:44:10] wurstgelee : defined in the contract
[2016-11-02 15:44:16] NL007 : wurstgelee: there were osome rules but not clear
[2016-11-02 15:44:31] BitMEX_Wally : Out of curiosity, how do you calculate 75%?
[2016-11-02 15:44:37] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: x2
[2016-11-02 15:44:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 15:44:42] sally : you shills supporting this are long. Thats the only reason why. That or stupid.
[2016-11-02 15:44:49] rapidtrades : cmon shorts rly? u had a ride from the hard-coded cap to 0.4 and u still complain that u didn't capture those last 0.4?
[2016-11-02 15:45:02] sally : BitMEX_Wally: .4-.7
[2016-11-02 15:45:06] rapidtrades : that's a 9.6 btc free ride
[2016-11-02 15:45:11] wurstgelee : sally: i was always and only long on zec. thats no secret
[2016-11-02 15:45:41] sleger : i must be stupid then
[2016-11-02 15:45:51] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2016-11-02 15:45:53] laisee : some of us read contracts and expect them to be honoured, both ways
[2016-11-02 15:46:11] wurstgelee : laisee: ;)
[2016-11-02 15:46:18] sally : breaking the contract makes my position invalid. So refund it
[2016-11-02 15:46:35] wurstgelee : sally: no marking to polo would break the contract u tool
[2016-11-02 15:46:46] sally : Look after your customers or you just attract attention for the worng reasons
[2016-11-02 15:46:59] habibi : sally: will u vote for Hillary or Trump?
[2016-11-02 15:47:04] wurstgelee : habibi: haahahahaha
[2016-11-02 15:47:19] sally : habibi: lol
[2016-11-02 15:47:21] Yuppie : Bam. 35 bid
[2016-11-02 15:47:29] wurstgelee : almost choked to death by popcorn
[2016-11-02 15:47:43] arbitrage001 : habibi: trump!
[2016-11-02 15:47:45] chromaticcr1 : that order is def from donald trump
[2016-11-02 15:47:45] sally : mod?
[2016-11-02 15:47:48] habibi : sally: answer the question and i will refund u whole ur lost !
[2016-11-02 15:48:02] sally : habibi: I cant vote
[2016-11-02 15:48:11] habibi : no refund then
[2016-11-02 15:48:19] NL007 : zec futures could hit 0.75-1
[2016-11-02 15:48:20] laisee : 4got to register?
[2016-11-02 15:48:22] rapidtrades : SHE'S UNDERAGE
[2016-11-02 15:48:22] sally : habibi: thats my answer so refund me
[2016-11-02 15:48:36] habibi : sally: nope, i changed my mind, sorry
[2016-11-02 15:48:50] sally : habibi: oh cool, you must work at bitmex
[2016-11-02 15:48:59] wurstgelee : habibi: u changed the contract!
[2016-11-02 15:49:02] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-02 15:49:02] sally : where the fuck are these muppets located?
[2016-11-02 15:49:13] wurstgelee : bitmex?
[2016-11-02 15:49:17] wurstgelee : or admins?
[2016-11-02 15:49:22] sally : wurstgelee: bitmex
[2016-11-02 15:49:22] rapidtrades : sally: we went from 0.4 to 0.565....u only lost 0.15 per contract
[2016-11-02 15:49:29] wurstgelee : sally: seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:49:33] wurstgelee : gl ;)
[2016-11-02 15:49:34] laisee : sally == brit?
[2016-11-02 15:49:59] habibi : sally: can we go back to filling complaint to SEC subject?
[2016-11-02 15:50:34] sally : where do they actually work from
[2016-11-02 15:50:40] sally : habibi: starts to get dangerous so rather not for now
[2016-11-02 15:50:43] wurstgelee : HK most
[2016-11-02 15:50:47] habibi : sally: from basement!
[2016-11-02 15:50:57] sally : habibi: mums basement?
[2016-11-02 15:51:17] habibi : sally: see, u already forgot about ur loss, u even trying to joke
[2016-11-02 15:51:38] sally : habibi: come give me a cuddle
[2016-11-02 15:52:02] sally : Its not about the money lol, I could not give a shit about that
[2016-11-02 15:52:15] thomaskikansha : 35 market buy can bring us to 0.78
[2016-11-02 15:52:45] sally : Now can one of the mods please tell me where the office is?
[2016-11-02 15:53:00] orly : sally: seriously, they probably don't even have an office
[2016-11-02 15:53:22] orly : imo this is highly unregulated territory, if you trust an exchange, especially a futures market, it's your fault
[2016-11-02 15:53:22] sally : orly: A location is fine
[2016-11-02 15:53:53] arbitrage001 : sally: this is exchange, we live in new world
[2016-11-02 15:54:01] arbitrage001 : they probably dont even have office
[2016-11-02 15:54:16] arbitrage001 : wearing underwear to chat here
[2016-11-02 15:54:33] sally : Im not joking.
[2016-11-02 15:54:43] rapidtrades : cmon polo...finish the job
[2016-11-02 15:55:22] arbitrage001 : the company registered in Seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:55:29] wurstgelee : sally: HK
[2016-11-02 15:55:31] wurstgelee : ffs
[2016-11-02 15:55:44] sally : Why does everyone say Hong Kong>
[2016-11-02 15:55:53] sally : Cant a mod give an address?
[2016-11-02 15:55:54] arbitrage001 : sally: cuz their ceo
[2016-11-02 15:56:00] arbitrage001 : arthur like gk girls
[2016-11-02 15:56:02] rapidtrades : most of the partners are in HK
[2016-11-02 15:56:08] arbitrage001 : hk girls
[2016-11-02 15:56:15] arbitrage001 : so he hang out in hk
[2016-11-02 15:56:21] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-02 15:56:24] wurstgelee : HK
[2016-11-02 15:56:25] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-02 15:56:36] rapidtrades : i think the company is in the Seychelles tho
[2016-11-02 15:57:30] wurstgelee : registered there, yep
[2016-11-02 15:57:53] BitMEX_Wally : HDR Global Trading Limited, 2nd Floor, Capital City, Independence Avenue P.O. Box 1008, Victoria, Mahe, Republic of Seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:57:57] sally : Im waiting for a mod to confirm a registered address. I would like to discuss in person as preference
[2016-11-02 15:58:04] sally : perfect
[2016-11-02 15:58:07] sleger : sally: its just above
[2016-11-02 15:58:19] rapidtrades : yr gonna fly to HK for 1 btc?
[2016-11-02 15:58:20] sleger : take your ticket to seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:58:28] rapidtrades : but they're not there
[2016-11-02 15:58:32] sleger : rapidtrades: address in seychelles
[2016-11-02 15:58:33] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Is this where you guys will be or is it just a drop?
[2016-11-02 15:58:34] rapidtrades : oh wait...
[2016-11-02 15:58:46] BitMEX_Wally : sally: I don't think the PO Box will fit both of us in for a meeting
[2016-11-02 15:58:50] sleger : sally: feel free to chat to their mailbox
[2016-11-02 15:58:54] rapidtrades : wtf...does he wants to kill them over 1 btc
[2016-11-02 15:59:02] rapidtrades : this is getting creepy
[2016-11-02 15:59:09] sleger : rapidtrades: nigerians are crazy
[2016-11-02 15:59:11] sally : rapidtrades: dont be ridiculous
[2016-11-02 15:59:17] TwinnerD : BitMEX_Wally: offices in HK right?
[2016-11-02 15:59:29] sally : BitMEX_Wally: well can we schedule a meeting?
[2016-11-02 15:59:35] rapidtrades : maybe he is in HK idk
[2016-11-02 15:59:40] habibi : sally: what if i tell there is no law protecting ur ass... and its great?
[2016-11-02 15:59:51] lilop : Explain what's going on? What will happen on Friday?
[2016-11-02 16:00:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Do I need to come to hong kong or seychelles ?
[2016-11-02 16:00:26] sleger : beaches are nicer in seychelles
[2016-11-02 16:00:32] sally : sleger: true
[2016-11-02 16:00:34] sleger : bitches on the other hand
[2016-11-02 16:01:26] uzitgc : is there a way to check if there was a liquidation event on ZEC?
[2016-11-02 16:01:36] sally : Ive got the week off and I want to check out the place and while im there I will discuss this matter
[2016-11-02 16:02:02] BitMEX_Wally : uzitgc: They get published on the liquidation feed and the @REKT bot posts them to the trollbox
[2016-11-02 16:02:13] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So where in Hong Kong is your office?
[2016-11-02 16:02:22] uzitgc : thanks, where can I check the liquidation feed?
[2016-11-02 16:02:42] rapidtrades : sally: 'Titties4bitcoin' strip club
[2016-11-02 16:02:54] rapidtrades : that's where they usually hang out
[2016-11-02 16:03:02] public username 321 : actually i have to say it's true nothing was really changed and a move in the market like this is actually really unexpected after giving it a further look. Settlement is still the same, right?
[2016-11-02 16:03:15] BitMEX_Wally : uzitgc: You can subscribe like this: `wscat -c "wss://www.bitmex.com/realtime?subscribe=liquidation"`
[2016-11-02 16:03:28] BitMEX_Wally : Or query outstanding liquidation orders via the REST API
[2016-11-02 16:03:36] uzitgc : thank you
[2016-11-02 16:04:12] BitMEX_Wally : public username 321: We have not announcement the settlement index yet but it is likely to be Poloniex. We will confirm around 1 December
[2016-11-02 16:04:52] rapidtrades : it will be polo 90%...unless some chinese exchange picks up ZEC
[2016-11-02 16:04:54] public username 321 : BitMEX_Wally: all good but next time you do something like this give at least 5 days prior notice via email. Thanks!
[2016-11-02 16:04:54] sally : BitMEX_Wally: What are you hiding? Give me your hong kong office
[2016-11-02 16:05:19] BitMEX_Wally : sally: Come to Beijing TechCrunch next week and I'll buy you a beer
[2016-11-02 16:05:47] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: u sure cost of beer will not exceed ur earnings in fees from him?
[2016-11-02 16:05:57] TwinnerD : habibi: lit
[2016-11-02 16:06:02] BitMEX_Wally : I think @DangerandPlay might come for a beer too
[2016-11-02 16:07:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I will search that now but I still want to know HK office
[2016-11-02 16:07:12] rapidtrades : next week's headline ''Three people killed at Beijing TechCrunch by crazed woman''
[2016-11-02 16:07:21] blacktuesday : zec bids at the front of the book
[2016-11-02 16:07:29] blacktuesday : lets get this up to 1.0
[2016-11-02 16:07:33] habibi : "by sally woman"
[2016-11-02 16:07:44] blacktuesday : market buy zec
[2016-11-02 16:07:54] sally : habibi: funny thing is sallys got a dick
[2016-11-02 16:07:55] BitMEX_Wally : sally: We do not have a HK office. We hang out in Pure Yoga most of the time though
[2016-11-02 16:08:16] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Yeah I read the article
[2016-11-02 16:08:43] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So we do a yoga session and then some boxing lol
[2016-11-02 16:08:59] habibi : Sally got a dick sounds like a bad cover of "jenny's got a gun"
[2016-11-02 16:09:36] blacktuesday : butthurt is a real thing...
[2016-11-02 16:09:46] TwinnerD : sally: come and visit me in seychelles. we can checkout their PO box together
[2016-11-02 16:09:54] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-11-02 16:10:08] sally : BitMEX_Wally: which location?
[2016-11-02 16:10:20] sally : TwinnerD: get my flights and im all in
[2016-11-02 16:10:41] TwinnerD : you made 25k, you can spare the 1.5k
[2016-11-02 16:11:07] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: is there any secured external access to multi sig keys in case any guys of u will be lost?
[2016-11-02 16:11:31] blacktuesday : "lost" lol
[2016-11-02 16:11:43] rapidtrades : afaik the chip is embedded in their head @habibi
[2016-11-02 16:11:59] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: doesnt sound very secure
[2016-11-02 16:12:06] sally : Which one wally http://www.pure-yoga.com/hongkong/locations
[2016-11-02 16:12:32] rapidtrades : the one with the trannies
[2016-11-02 16:12:40] BitMEX_Wally : sally: What rapidtrades said
[2016-11-02 16:12:49] sally : rapidtrades: I like trannies
[2016-11-02 16:12:57] rapidtrades : ur weird
[2016-11-02 16:13:08] blacktuesday : so... how about those bitcoin markets?
[2016-11-02 16:13:36] rapidtrades : where's the geek
[2016-11-02 16:13:43] rapidtrades : altehrious or whatever
[2016-11-02 16:14:00] rapidtrades : bet we will hear more QQ from him
[2016-11-02 16:14:03] sally : BitMEX_Wally: No serious now. Your inability to provide a location is actually concerning me
[2016-11-02 16:14:34] habibi : who cares about ur concerns
[2016-11-02 16:15:46] BitMEX_Wally : sally: What is your country of residence?
[2016-11-02 16:15:58] BitMEX_Wally : Your IP address is from a different country from your claimed one, so I have my concerns
[2016-11-02 16:16:40] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Wally: I seriously doubt you can make any assumption based on an IP address (VPN ...)
[2016-11-02 16:16:41] rapidtrades : so many concerns all around
[2016-11-02 16:17:06] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I route all traffic as standard
[2016-11-02 16:17:31] rapidtrades : wtf does that mean
[2016-11-02 16:17:36] habibi : sally: what are u trying to hide? is this a vote for Hillary? or a Trump?
[2016-11-02 16:17:51] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Im actually a nice guy and I would love to do some yoga
[2016-11-02 16:18:26] rapidtrades : sally: u should be buying bitmex guys a beer after they bailed u out
[2016-11-02 16:18:31] Cheese : president camacho
[2016-11-02 16:18:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah I don't like the sound of the boxing though
[2016-11-02 16:18:52] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Lol none of that Im just trolling
[2016-11-02 16:19:15] blacktuesday : trolltrace.com
[2016-11-02 16:19:25] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Unless you guys enjoy that sort of thing in a professional way
[2016-11-02 16:19:47] sally : like a gym session
[2016-11-02 16:20:04] AudibleScience : sally: oh so you're a bloke!
[2016-11-02 16:20:14] sally : AudibleScience: no. Sally with a dick
[2016-11-02 16:20:19] habibi : sally: Satoshi in 2011 claimed that bitmex is the most professional bitcoin exchange ever, how u can argue with that?
[2016-11-02 16:21:10] sally : habibi: I smoked a joint with satoshi back in 09 and we laughed about the genesis block. No biggie
[2016-11-02 16:21:28] AudibleScience : sally: that makes no sense. Are you a chick with a dick or what then?
[2016-11-02 16:21:48] sally : BitMEX_Wally: So maybe you guys can teach me some yoga and trading
[2016-11-02 16:21:51] habibi : chick with dick is not longer a chick
[2016-11-02 16:22:10] sally : habibi: it is. As long as she has a pretty face
[2016-11-02 16:22:53] AudibleScience : habibi: agreed lol
[2016-11-02 16:23:24] BitMEX_Wally : sally: You'll have to ask Arthur, he leads the yoga session.
[2016-11-02 16:23:55] BitMEX_Wally : Bed time for me, night night
[2016-11-02 16:24:15] sally : BitMEX_Wally: Thats cool. And maybe during the evening we check out Arkhan
[2016-11-02 16:24:41] sally : BitMEX_Wally: I want to buy my ticket today
[2016-11-02 16:25:25] wurstgelee : i love those 5 lights @ zec next to polo price ;)
[2016-11-02 16:25:57] rapidtrades : 5 lights means ur doing things right son!
[2016-11-02 16:26:20] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-02 16:27:41] kingkrung : what does cost mean in "Place Order". and why is it so hig in ZECZ16?
[2016-11-02 16:27:45] kingkrung : is it a fee?
[2016-11-02 16:28:21] wurstgelee : what does it say?
[2016-11-02 16:28:24] wurstgelee : which value?
[2016-11-02 16:28:42] TwinnerD : kingkrung: because of 2x its 50% of order value
[2016-11-02 16:28:43] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: that is your maintenance margin
[2016-11-02 16:29:23] kingkrung : @arbitrage001 ok
[2016-11-02 16:29:26] kingkrung : thanks
[2016-11-02 16:29:43] arbitrage001 : kingkrung: maintenance margic is 50% for zcash
[2016-11-02 16:29:57] arbitrage001 : total value should be double
[2016-11-02 16:30:09] arbitrage001 : and fee is 0.25% for taker, 0% for maker
[2016-11-02 16:30:16] public username 321 : coming right back down. It was just noise.
[2016-11-02 16:30:19] arbitrage001 : settlement fee, i am not sure how much
[2016-11-02 16:30:43] arbitrage001 : public username 321: push it down more
[2016-11-02 16:30:45] chromaticcr1 : 0.25%
[2016-11-02 16:30:52] arbitrage001 : i have more bid around 0.25
[2016-11-02 16:30:58] arbitrage001 : and 0.2
[2016-11-02 16:31:00] public username 321 : arbitrage001: i'm trading small. Not pushing things around
[2016-11-02 16:31:14] wurstgelee : public username 321: sorry for taking profits :p
[2016-11-02 16:33:02] public username 321 : wurstgelee: yeah, you're the happy tiger of the box, eh?
[2016-11-02 16:33:08] public username 321 : :p
[2016-11-02 16:33:49] wurstgelee : i recently am. unless i ht some invisible surprise wall
[2016-11-02 16:34:14] wurstgelee : which gets removed but hen suddenly not removed until it gets pushed up but not removed oO
[2016-11-02 16:34:18] public username 321 : wurstgelee: was it you who pushed the price up?
[2016-11-02 16:34:24] wurstgelee : public username 321: nope
[2016-11-02 16:34:29] wurstgelee : didnt buy a single contract
[2016-11-02 16:34:37] wurstgelee : in the last few hours
[2016-11-02 16:34:39] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 16:34:47] arbitrage001 : some short probably got scare
[2016-11-02 16:34:52] wurstgelee : yeah, prob
[2016-11-02 16:35:06] arbitrage001 : i know i wouldnt be able to sleep well if i short
[2016-11-02 16:35:12] wurstgelee : i am patiently waiting in the feeding range...
[2016-11-02 16:35:14] wurstgelee : as usual
[2016-11-02 16:35:15] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-02 16:35:31] TwinnerD : wurstgelee: welches bunderland bist du eig?
[2016-11-02 16:35:35] TwinnerD : bundes*
[2016-11-02 16:35:37] wurstgelee : hamburg
[2016-11-02 16:35:45] TwinnerD : moin moin
[2016-11-02 16:35:56] wurstgelee : moin ;)
[2016-11-02 16:36:03] wurstgelee : du?
[2016-11-02 16:36:20] TwinnerD : Wien
[2016-11-02 16:36:34] wurstgelee : da wohnt mein bruder ;)
[2016-11-02 16:37:13] TwinnerD : nice
[2016-11-02 16:37:35] TwinnerD : soon someone will ban us for using the wrong language
[2016-11-02 16:41:26] mjones : Can i be mod?
[2016-11-02 16:41:57] mjones : Trollbox mod
[2016-11-02 16:44:16] sally : we dont need mods here
[2016-11-02 16:48:59] Higgsy : Anywhere I can go where it shows how to short and then set stop/loss etc?
[2016-11-02 16:49:05] wurstgelee : watching u btc
[2016-11-02 16:49:09] wurstgelee : watching u..
[2016-11-02 16:49:09] sleger : we didnt need sally either yet here he is
[2016-11-02 16:50:05] wurstgelee : Higgsy: https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-11-02 16:50:10] wurstgelee : learning by doing for free
[2016-11-02 16:50:47] Higgsy : Awesome cheers!
[2016-11-02 17:00:56] Higgsy : I have to send BTC into the the testnet account just to play around?....
[2016-11-02 17:00:58] Higgsy : fuck that
[2016-11-02 17:01:07] TwinnerD : no
[2016-11-02 17:01:10] TwinnerD : testnet btc
[2016-11-02 17:01:10] TwinnerD : lol
[2016-11-02 17:01:21] TwinnerD : http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/
[2016-11-02 17:04:28] Higgsy : cheers
[2016-11-02 17:34:02] jeeburns : Question, if i'm doing futures dec 30 (100x) platform and I have bitcoin that isn't in my trade, if my liquidation price gets hit will it take from my account to cover so I don't get margin called?
[2016-11-02 17:35:01] TwinnerD : yes if you select cross margin
[2016-11-02 17:36:22] BitMEX_Greg : jeeburns: As TwinnerD mentions, that is correct if you select Cross margin. Cross will use all available margin to prevent a liquidation event. You can read further about the different margining methods here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2016-11-02 17:47:11] jeeburns : ok thank you!
[2016-11-02 17:52:50] Cryptlex : Hey, do i still get the maker fee when I used hidden or iceburg?
[2016-11-02 17:53:50] Smartass : arbitrage001: you are a wise man.. so many tears i cried because of my shorts...
[2016-11-02 17:55:19] BitMEX_Greg : Cryptlex: You pay taker fee on the hidden section
[2016-11-02 17:55:35] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees#Order-Type-Exceptions
[2016-11-02 17:55:43] Cryptlex : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2016-11-02 17:59:57] y1uy : BitMEX_Greg: what are cross orders?
[2016-11-02 18:00:22] BitMEX_Greg : y1uy: We don't have cross orders. What I refer to above is Cross Margin
[2016-11-02 18:00:40] BitMEX_Greg : This is a margining method which uses all available margin to cover a position.
[2016-11-02 18:00:46] BitMEX_Greg : all available balance* rather
[2016-11-02 18:01:52] y1uy : BitMEX_Greg: how do u set up hidden order?
[2016-11-02 18:02:01] y1uy : oh never mind
[2016-11-02 18:02:05] y1uy : found it
[2016-11-02 18:02:17] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: the funding rate on perpetual swaps is determined by the premium/discount over the index for a given period?
[2016-11-02 18:03:25] QuantFocus : nm, think i found it here
[2016-11-02 18:06:11] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: Ok cool, here is the guide just fyi: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2016-11-02 18:06:42] rx84 : Looking at the formula for Futures Fair Price, doesn't everything just cancel out and Fair Price === Impact Mid Price??
[2016-11-02 18:09:43] messiaen8844 : Greg
[2016-11-02 18:09:49] messiaen8844 : what happens after ETHXBT expires? new swap or futures?
[2016-11-02 18:10:26] j8 : pretty much, except that calculation is only done every 30 seconds or so (i think), and in between the fair price follows changes in the spot price @rx84
[2016-11-02 18:10:42] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: ETHXBT is a swap, it doesn't expire
[2016-11-02 18:11:05] sleger : ???
[2016-11-02 18:11:09] sleger : yes it does
[2016-11-02 18:11:10] BitMEX_Greg : Sorry*
[2016-11-02 18:11:17] sleger : its a perpetual swap that expires soon
[2016-11-02 18:11:24] messiaen8844 : then another one begins?
[2016-11-02 18:11:29] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: a futures contract is being put in its place* a 7 Day futures contract
[2016-11-02 18:11:30] sleger : nope its dead
[2016-11-02 18:11:35] messiaen8844 : ah, nice
[2016-11-02 18:11:37] messiaen8844 : thanks
[2016-11-02 18:11:45] sleger : nice ? no
[2016-11-02 18:17:45] sleger : new btcc usd exchange, with rebates for makers
[2016-11-02 18:18:33] rapidtrades : we need zec margin not new btcusd exchange
[2016-11-02 18:20:08] rapidtrades : is anyone a kraken regular? can u confirm that they add margin one week after listing like that guy was saying
[2016-11-02 18:20:47] rapidtrades : (check ur email)
[2016-11-02 18:21:24] messiaen8844 : margin to shoart zec?
[2016-11-02 18:21:31] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-11-02 18:21:39] messiaen8844 : let it fist stabilize
[2016-11-02 18:21:42] messiaen8844 : then they can add 10x
[2016-11-02 18:21:50] rapidtrades : 5x afaik?
[2016-11-02 18:22:12] rapidtrades : im talking about kraken yo
[2016-11-02 18:30:38] thomaskikansha : zec pump