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[2016-11-02 07:53:25] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-11-02 07:53:31] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: that
[2016-11-02 07:53:33] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 07:53:37] CapitalGains : Yes of course
[2016-11-02 07:53:38] arbitrage001 : could be 0.05 like someone here claimed
[2016-11-02 07:53:47] CapitalGains : But am I understanding what you said more or less?
[2016-11-02 07:53:53] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yes
[2016-11-02 07:53:58] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-02 07:54:25] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: since you are long,
[2016-11-02 07:54:40] arbitrage001 : are you going to buy a bit and help pump a bit on pollo exp date?
[2016-11-02 07:55:26] wurstgelee : depends. only if i am convinced its a bux ;)
[2016-11-02 07:55:58] wurstgelee : not gonna buy with some obscure hope of playing a role in some imaginary pump start
[2016-11-02 07:56:36] CapitalGains : Mod: Is there any plan to have ZEC futures beyond Dec?
[2016-11-02 07:56:38] arbitrage001 : shallow market can probably work
[2016-11-02 07:56:51] arbitrage001 : small whale make it worthwhile
[2016-11-02 07:57:01] arbitrage001 : since people here selling this low
[2016-11-02 07:57:02] wurstgelee : yep :)
[2016-11-02 07:57:26] wurstgelee : With still havent had 24h marking notice
[2016-11-02 07:57:36] wurstgelee : plenty of times.to fuck with shorts here
[2016-11-02 07:57:50] wurstgelee : *.s
[2016-11-02 07:58:00] arbitrage001 : still
[2016-11-02 07:58:09] arbitrage001 : i dont think inexperience traders will short
[2016-11-02 07:58:22] arbitrage001 : unless he is really dumb
[2016-11-02 07:58:58] wurstgelee : some will
[2016-11-02 07:59:02] arbitrage001 : or have more information than i do
[2016-11-02 07:59:05] CapitalGains : Wow, check out all the hidden orders under 0.4
[2016-11-02 07:59:16] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yes. Its stacked down there
[2016-11-02 07:59:34] wurstgelee : for a reason
[2016-11-02 07:59:54] wurstgelee : I doubt that those orders are "inexperiences traders's hidden orders"
[2016-11-02 07:59:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 08:00:17] wurstgelee : *typos. fucking tiny mobile keyboards
[2016-11-02 08:00:35] CapitalGains : Mobile keyboard typos are always forgiven
[2016-11-02 08:02:15] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: If I may ask, do you have a target price to close your longs, or is that target price ADL?
[2016-11-02 08:02:36] wurstgelee : adl tbh
[2016-11-02 08:02:57] wurstgelee : as target. Or whatever seems right at the time
[2016-11-02 08:03:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 08:03:25] arbitrage001 : adl price is most likely above 1 btc now
[2016-11-02 08:03:39] arbitrage001 : weak hand should be gone by now
[2016-11-02 08:03:43] wurstgelee : BitMEX - where getting force-closed is fun!
[2016-11-02 08:03:46] arbitrage001 : after 3-4 days
[2016-11-02 08:03:49] wurstgelee : probably
[2016-11-02 08:04:24] CapitalGains : I find it very hard not to close at 0.5 because I'd always prefer 0.5 BTC to 1 ZEC
[2016-11-02 08:04:44] wurstgelee : Yep
[2016-11-02 08:05:07] wurstgelee : also feels weird to buy 1 btc of hashes to mine less than 1 zec
[2016-11-02 08:05:08] arbitrage001 : i am hoping for 2=3 btc
[2016-11-02 08:05:32] CapitalGains : You still mining on nicehash?
[2016-11-02 08:05:34] rapidtrades : guys support ZEC and it will suppot u too
[2016-11-02 08:05:40] rapidtrades : said the Lord
[2016-11-02 08:05:47] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: hah
[2016-11-02 08:05:51] arbitrage001 : morning, btw
[2016-11-02 08:06:07] CapitalGains : Well said and I agree - please, everyone, market buy and I'll be with you in spirit.
[2016-11-02 08:06:09] laisee : Cos u gotta have faith ...
[2016-11-02 08:06:13] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: no. made a probe yesterday, not proftable, small loss
[2016-11-02 08:06:14] wurstgelee : we retest today
[2016-11-02 08:06:47] wurstgelee : *we=will
[2016-11-02 08:07:09] CapitalGains : Thanks for the heads up - I was thinking about it yesterday, but I think the window of opportunity might have passed
[2016-11-02 08:07:54] wurstgelee : most likely
[2016-11-02 08:08:08] arbitrage001 : what opportunity? mining?
[2016-11-02 08:08:14] arbitrage001 : or buying here?
[2016-11-02 08:09:05] CapitalGains : I was thinking of mining ZEC on nicehash
[2016-11-02 08:09:14] CapitalGains : But I doubt it's still profitable (or as profitable)
[2016-11-02 08:09:14] micmix : you need 50.26 BTC to push zec above 0.8, half with 2x margin (assuming no hidden orders)
[2016-11-02 08:09:36] arbitrage001 : micmix: that is a fairly low figure
[2016-11-02 08:09:56] wurstgelee : *assumed no hidden orders
[2016-11-02 08:09:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 08:10:15] micmix : and only 33.41 to push it down to 0
[2016-11-02 08:10:21] micmix : sorry, 0.16
[2016-11-02 08:10:27] laisee : Lets all buy and get rich ??
[2016-11-02 08:10:32] rapidtrades : i think once a whale clears the orderbook here once or twice bitmex will reconsider their deciison to mark to last
[2016-11-02 08:10:33] wurstgelee : which doesnz mc anyone who isnt an idiot
[2016-11-02 08:10:45] wurstgelee : (aka 2x lev)
[2016-11-02 08:10:47] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 08:11:27] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: marking has no bearing on future price
[2016-11-02 08:11:27] micmix : 48.63 btc to push to zero ;-)
[2016-11-02 08:11:37] laisee : Rapid: do it, now
[2016-11-02 08:12:03] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: ofc it does
[2016-11-02 08:12:47] rapidtrades : it would make the moves comparable to bitmex and stop the margin cascading issue
[2016-11-02 08:12:56] rapidtrades : to polo i mean
[2016-11-02 08:13:40] rapidtrades : even at 400% basis..if polo doubles we double...it may not be to the same price but it will be around 100% as shorts margin is squeezed
[2016-11-02 08:13:55] arbitrage001 : doesnt work that way
[2016-11-02 08:14:12] rapidtrades : ofc it does
[2016-11-02 08:14:23] arbitrage001 : my trading decision dont work that way
[2016-11-02 08:14:41] micmix : so tell me, who just sold all their bitcoins to buy zcash?
[2016-11-02 08:14:57] micmix : we dropped $10 in one minute
[2016-11-02 08:15:07] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-11-02 08:15:12] wurstgelee : btc struggeling
[2016-11-02 08:15:17] rapidtrades : goooo One True Coin!
[2016-11-02 08:15:19] rapidtrades : OTC
[2016-11-02 08:16:00] arbitrage001 : micmix: funding is too high, probably someone want to not pay
[2016-11-02 08:16:17] rapidtrades : think he's looking wrong, mark only dropped $3
[2016-11-02 08:16:22] micmix : nah, it was okc dump
[2016-11-02 08:16:30] micmix : looking at spot
[2016-11-02 08:16:33] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-11-02 08:16:41] rapidtrades : okc spot is fairly volatile
[2016-11-02 08:16:44] arbitrage001 : you need to buy bitcoin to buy zcash
[2016-11-02 08:17:08] arbitrage001 : maybe that is why btc going up last week
[2016-11-02 08:18:15] CapitalGains : So I thought of a (joke) theory: the BTC rally is just an exit pump for ZEC
[2016-11-02 08:18:45] rapidtrades : haha!
[2016-11-02 08:18:49] micmix : xbtz16 premium dropped $10, guess the rally is over
[2016-11-02 08:18:59] micmix : *for now
[2016-11-02 08:19:17] rapidtrades : micmix no offense but noone cares about bitcoin's 1% moves
[2016-11-02 08:19:47] micmix : I do, it's the only market with enough liquidity to make any decent money
[2016-11-02 08:19:52] CapitalGains : Actually many thousands of traders care a good deal
[2016-11-02 08:20:07] CapitalGains : 1% on 100x leverage is 100%
[2016-11-02 08:20:09] rapidtrades : micmix: fair point
[2016-11-02 08:20:21] arbitrage001 : micmix: you are an MM here?
[2016-11-02 08:20:55] bbking : 平仓不能部分吗？
[2016-11-02 08:21:05] micmix : yep, but not the main MM
[2016-11-02 08:21:07] bbking : 一定要全平?
[2016-11-02 08:21:56] rapidtrades : he;s laying, he's the main MM
[2016-11-02 08:22:04] rapidtrades : send all ur complaints to @mixmic
[2016-11-02 08:22:25] CapitalGains : Guys, don't you love the 0.1 spread on this market?
[2016-11-02 08:22:50] rapidtrades : on ZEC?
[2016-11-02 08:23:10] CapitalGains : Yes ZEC
[2016-11-02 08:23:23] rapidtrades : yeah it pretty bad
[2016-11-02 08:23:37] CapitalGains : Except, of course, you can't market buy or sell without losing out big time
[2016-11-02 08:23:47] rapidtrades : it's very inelastic so not surprised
[2016-11-02 08:24:17] wurstgelee : i am betting on a zec polo pump
[2016-11-02 08:24:19] wurstgelee : gonna mine some
[2016-11-02 08:24:23] RoftheN : If only they used smaller quantitites than 1
[2016-11-02 08:24:39] rapidtrades : i'd wait for 2 to fall first @wurstgelee
[2016-11-02 08:24:51] RoftheN : I'll buy some on Poloniex and hope it doubles
[2016-11-02 08:24:56] rapidtrades : now it's still in noman's land
[2016-11-02 08:24:56] wurstgelee : 2 to fall?
[2016-11-02 08:24:58] wurstgelee : its 1.5
[2016-11-02 08:25:09] micmix : RoftheN: it's for whales only, protects smaller traders from losing everything
[2016-11-02 08:25:16] rapidtrades : yeah if we break 2 likely gonna retest 3-3.5
[2016-11-02 08:25:21] wurstgelee : also adding more hashes as we go down (hases get cheaper)
[2016-11-02 08:25:24] BitMEX_Jack : bbking: 可以部分平，放部分的限价单或市价单就行
[2016-11-02 08:25:28] wurstgelee : *h
[2016-11-02 08:25:35] BitMEX_Jack : bbking: 要自己放
[2016-11-02 08:25:50] rapidtrades : who's this guy ^
[2016-11-02 08:25:57] RoftheN : Lol
[2016-11-02 08:26:36] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: wish trading is that easy
[2016-11-02 08:26:36] wurstgelee : got 50kSol/s running now. ;)
[2016-11-02 08:26:49] rapidtrades : gl :)
[2016-11-02 08:27:08] rapidtrades : at least ur supporting the network
[2016-11-02 08:27:51] bbking : 平仓哪里有填数量啊？
[2016-11-02 08:28:21] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: yep. makes mining more expensive for others ;)
[2016-11-02 08:28:52] wurstgelee : pumping the diff like a pro
[2016-11-02 08:32:24] chromaticcr1 : bbking: 你开仓的位置，比如说你做多100张，然后点做多。平仓的话就输入比如说50张（平半仓），然后点 卖出/做空。
[2016-11-02 08:33:12] chromaticcr1 : 就是持有多仓就做空平仓，持有空仓的就做多平仓，逻辑类似于现货杠杆交易
[2016-11-02 08:34:03] bbking : 哦，为什么不是叫平仓
[2016-11-02 08:34:27] bbking : 只看到仓位那里有平仓按钮
[2016-11-02 08:36:16] rapidtrades : are they actually chatting or just f*cking with us ^
[2016-11-02 08:36:39] rapidtrades : @~:*|$"+_
[2016-11-02 08:37:05] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: use google translator
[2016-11-02 08:37:10] bbking : f*** u
[2016-11-02 08:37:12] chromaticcr1 : bbking: 这个我也不知道，可能是这边仓位是净值，比如持有100张多仓，到点反手做空的话，输入200张然后做空，就会拿着 100 张空仓
[2016-11-02 08:37:18] chromaticcr1 : bbking: 哈哈
[2016-11-02 08:37:35] chromaticcr1 : rapidtrades: yeah we are just Fkin w/ you :P
[2016-11-02 08:38:15] rapidtrades : yeah thought so
[2016-11-02 08:38:20] chromaticcr1 : 在这边玩了一年多都习惯了～
[2016-11-02 08:38:40] bbking : 一年多。。。。
[2016-11-02 08:38:44] bbking : 这平台上线多久啊
[2016-11-02 08:39:14] chromaticcr1 : 14年11月
[2016-11-02 08:39:28] bbking : 玩一年多，还没亏完
[2016-11-02 08:39:30] bbking : 厉害啊
[2016-11-02 08:39:35] chromaticcr1 : -_-
[2016-11-02 08:39:50] chromaticcr1 : .。。。-_-
[2016-11-02 08:40:13] chromaticcr1 : 哥是老韭菜啊
[2016-11-02 08:40:22] bbking : 有没有在OK玩
[2016-11-02 08:40:27] chromaticcr1 : 走了很久
[2016-11-02 08:40:29] laisee : Insider trading
[2016-11-02 08:40:49] chromaticcr1 : ok我起码亏了30B，死多死到200刀的
[2016-11-02 08:41:04] CapitalGains : I think with crypto insider trading is the whole idea?
[2016-11-02 08:41:16] bbking : 这里比OK好在哪？
[2016-11-02 08:41:22] chromaticcr1 : 我是11年末进场的
[2016-11-02 08:41:22] bbking : 波动比较小，不容易爆仓？
[2016-11-02 08:41:38] wurstgelee : ICH HÄTTE GERNE EINE BREZEL BITTE
[2016-11-02 08:41:45] bbking : 我新来的
[2016-11-02 08:41:54] bbking : 11年进场，你赚发了吧
[2016-11-02 08:42:01] CapitalGains : ICH AUCH
[2016-11-02 08:42:16] chromaticcr1 : bbking: 这边爆仓少亏一点，ok爆了亏2%，这边亏0.5% （就是维持保证金那个）
[2016-11-02 08:42:19] BitMEX_Jack : bbking: 我的意思是，不要按右下角的平仓按纽，尝试一下自己下委托来平仓，像开仓一样，这样会比较好控制一点
[2016-11-02 08:42:20] wurstgelee : SEHR GERNE! DARFS SONST NOCH ETWAS SEIN?
[2016-11-02 08:42:30] laisee : Ich bin eine bitcoiner
[2016-11-02 08:42:37] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 08:42:39] chromaticcr1 : BANG DING OW
[2016-11-02 08:42:44] chromaticcr1 : HO LEE FUK
[2016-11-02 08:43:10] rapidtrades : RAMMSTEIN
[2016-11-02 08:43:25] bbking : BitMEX_Jack: 那样不会有多空两个仓位吗？
[2016-11-02 08:43:51] chromaticcr1 : bbking: 而且有XBTUSD那个永续掉期合约，不用烦交割那些。
[2016-11-02 08:43:53] laisee : emoticons pls ✅?✅?????
[2016-11-02 08:43:55] CapitalGains : GIBT ES HIER ZEC KÄUFER?
[2016-11-02 08:44:13] chromaticcr1 : 恩，一个合约只可以持有单边的仓位，因为仓位是净值的
[2016-11-02 08:45:19] chromaticcr1 : 就是刚才那个反手开空的例子
[2016-11-02 08:45:33] rapidtrades : i don't get how ppl read that ^^^ there's no spaces or anything
[2016-11-02 08:45:35] bbking : 比如我做多200张，然后做空100张，结果是我持100张多仓？ 做空的100张相当于平多？
[2016-11-02 08:45:42] rapidtrades : how do u know where words end
[2016-11-02 08:45:45] BitMEX_Jack : 倉位是淨值的，所以如果你多了，你空一張就只是平了一張的倉
[2016-11-02 08:46:02] chromaticcr1 : 嗯嗯～
[2016-11-02 08:46:06] laisee : No words - there are
[2016-11-02 08:46:52] bbking : ok 明白
[2016-11-02 08:47:01] BitMEX_Jack : bbking: 是的，如果多200張，然後做空100張，你就只剩下100張多
[2016-11-02 08:47:55] bbking : BitMEX_Jack: 为什么你们用繁体字，说普通话
[2016-11-02 08:48:42] BitMEX_Jack : 而做空的那100张，你还可以分10次，每次10张的放，就可以分十个不同的价格逐步平仓了
[2016-11-02 08:49:36] CapitalGains : rapidtrades: Most words are one to two characters. Once you've memorised the characters, it's almost easier than reading an alphabet.
[2016-11-02 08:49:46] BitMEX_Jack : 我是香港人,剛打字赶急没翻译好成简体字
[2016-11-02 08:50:17] BitMEX_Jack : 懂说普通话
[2016-11-02 08:50:23] rullwull : wtf, speak english
[2016-11-02 08:52:05] rullwull : or make a separate chats for other languages
[2016-11-02 08:53:07] bbking : or u can just ignore it
[2016-11-02 08:53:14] RoftheN : Mag ik nu ook mijn eigen taal spreken?
[2016-11-02 08:53:33] bbking : rullwull: do u have QQ?
[2016-11-02 08:53:38] CapitalGains : Natuurlik mag jy
[2016-11-02 08:53:47] bbking : haha
[2016-11-02 08:54:13] rullwull : WeChat
[2016-11-02 08:54:35] bbking : niubility
[2016-11-02 08:55:03] chromaticcr1 : 话说BitMEX有个微信群，你在吗？
[2016-11-02 08:55:30] bbking : 不在
[2016-11-02 08:55:54] bbking : 竟然不是QQ群
[2016-11-02 08:56:03] wurstgelee : Your long ZECZ16 position was deleveraged by 3 contracts at a price of 8.957605.
[2016-11-02 08:56:08] wurstgelee : ill print a tshirt with that
[2016-11-02 08:56:19] rapidtrades : ahahaha
[2016-11-02 08:56:19] wurstgelee : back: I got ADL'ed @ BitMEX
[2016-11-02 08:57:45] rapidtrades : man it was such a fun trading night until they messed it up with the cap and everything after
[2016-11-02 08:57:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 500 @ 761.18
[2016-11-02 08:57:55] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: That was on Friday right?
[2016-11-02 08:57:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 721.78
[2016-11-02 08:58:04] rapidtrades : volume plummeted after that
[2016-11-02 08:58:14] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yes, just scrolling to my recent mails
[2016-11-02 08:58:17] wurstgelee : cleaning up ;)
[2016-11-02 08:58:27] CapitalGains : Keep that on
[2016-11-02 08:58:30] CapitalGains : *one
[2016-11-02 08:58:38] wurstgelee : yes, i sure as hell will
[2016-11-02 08:58:57] wurstgelee : maybe i'll really drunk-order that shirt sometime soon
[2016-11-02 08:58:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 08:59:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `LSKXBT`: Buy 16 @ 0.000235
[2016-11-02 08:59:27] wurstgelee : hmhmhmm btc
[2016-11-02 08:59:35] wurstgelee : u look a bit sick
[2016-11-02 08:59:38] rapidtrades : now BTC is dumping
[2016-11-02 08:59:44] rapidtrades : good for ZEC tho
[2016-11-02 08:59:52] laisee : wurstgelee: thats a great shirt
[2016-11-02 09:00:05] wurstgelee : laisee: yep ;)
[2016-11-02 09:00:18] UncleCreepy : how much is one SEC?
[2016-11-02 09:00:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 12500 @ 760.13
[2016-11-02 09:00:33] UncleCreepy : ZEC?
[2016-11-02 09:00:34] wurstgelee : 1000 mSec
[2016-11-02 09:01:07] laisee : 1.5BTC or o.3999BTC - depends what store u buy at
[2016-11-02 09:01:33] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-02 09:01:57] CapitalGains : Oh man, to sell my ZEC longs on polo...
[2016-11-02 09:02:26] wurstgelee : waiting for another confirmation, btc soooo slow :/
[2016-11-02 09:02:26] UncleCreepy : I want to buy at the discount shop hehe
[2016-11-02 09:02:31] wurstgelee : adding more hashes
[2016-11-02 09:02:35] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-02 09:02:46] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: You're confident of a pump to 2?
[2016-11-02 09:03:00] rapidtrades : UncleCreepy: u can buy but prepare to hold for 2 months if needed
[2016-11-02 09:03:02] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: i figure it will eventually happen in the near future
[2016-11-02 09:03:06] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 09:03:51] CapitalGains : I also think once more is likely... not sure how many times after that
[2016-11-02 09:03:53] rapidtrades : can't we fix the margin needed to some time-weigthed average?
[2016-11-02 09:04:13] rapidtrades : instead of last on ZEC?
[2016-11-02 09:04:25] rapidtrades : cos they're obv not going to polo yet
[2016-11-02 09:05:06] UncleCreepy : Hold it for 2 months?
[2016-11-02 09:05:21] rapidtrades : if needed :)
[2016-11-02 09:08:45] UncleCreepy : Well there goes my short term strategy:(
[2016-11-02 09:09:50] rapidtrades : can't do ZEC here short-term...just look at that spread
[2016-11-02 09:09:55] bbking : 昨天空到现在，终于盈利了
[2016-11-02 09:10:24] rapidtrades : over 22% spread
[2016-11-02 09:10:42] CapitalGains : Actually if you're patient you can make a sizeable profit just trading across the spread like a trade bot
[2016-11-02 09:11:18] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Apxhw2PY/
[2016-11-02 09:11:28] aethlios : btc upside in early stage
[2016-11-02 09:12:15] CapitalGains : aethlios: Nice graphic
[2016-11-02 09:12:21] rapidtrades : @aethlios whats ur average ZEC price
[2016-11-02 09:12:26] kradiav : btc - launchpad mode /t
[2016-11-02 09:13:08] rapidtrades : 2 days ago operation Fury margined over 100 shorts...are you SAFE?
[2016-11-02 09:13:26] aethlios : rapidtrades: 2,35 closed 0,3, then opened 15* 0,5825 closed 5 0,375 and want to close 10 left (I am the 0,35 buyer) to free margin to use for btc
[2016-11-02 09:13:58] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-11-02 09:14:16] aethlios : i have liq. price 10,23 so i use to much margin, i want to concentrate to btc now
[2016-11-02 09:14:39] aethlios : do some arb receive the premium
[2016-11-02 09:14:44] rapidtrades : yeah doesn't make sense...risk 9.5 BTC max gain 0.5 btc
[2016-11-02 09:16:43] CapitalGains : Short on offer at 0.399, limited time only :D
[2016-11-02 09:18:01] aethlios : 0,35 my bid, in 2 days will look a bargain
[2016-11-02 09:18:17] CapitalGains : Probably.
[2016-11-02 09:18:39] rapidtrades : aethlios: then keep ur short
[2016-11-02 09:18:42] rapidtrades : talk is cheap
[2016-11-02 09:18:54] rapidtrades : 0.375% in btc is nothing
[2016-11-02 09:19:48] CapitalGains : aethlios: I agree, it's more about waiting.
[2016-11-02 09:20:15] rapidtrades : but he's short
[2016-11-02 09:20:48] rapidtrades : he says in 2 days we will be lower
[2016-11-02 09:21:13] arbitrage001 : has been saying that since the beginning?
[2016-11-02 09:21:20] arbitrage001 : before zcash launch
[2016-11-02 09:21:34] rapidtrades : yea he said we'll go to 0.1 on polo 2 days ago
[2016-11-02 09:21:40] rapidtrades : prolly lost a ton
[2016-11-02 09:21:49] arbitrage001 : he said a lot of things turn
[2016-11-02 09:21:55] arbitrage001 : all turn out to be wrong
[2016-11-02 09:22:03] arbitrage001 : just bet against next thing he say
[2016-11-02 09:22:25] rapidtrades : it would've been much worse if he didn't get a helping hand from big brother
[2016-11-02 09:23:02] rapidtrades : ok worse, not much worse :)
[2016-11-02 09:23:04] wurstgelee : another one accepted zec is not a short .4
[2016-11-02 09:23:06] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-02 09:24:05] rapidtrades : if the supply stuff ppl keep trotting out matters then i can't see it below 0.5-0.75
[2016-11-02 09:24:06] BitMEX_Jack : bbking: 你需要我们加你进wechat群吗？
[2016-11-02 09:24:22] rapidtrades : that would be 100-200m market cap
[2016-11-02 09:24:27] wurstgelee : ~ 0.09 ZEC per block ;)
[2016-11-02 09:24:52] rapidtrades : i mean on dec30
[2016-11-02 09:25:15] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Is that what you're getting?
[2016-11-02 09:25:15] wurstgelee : suprnova has is ~ 33% nethash so, ~ .03 per ZEC block added. ;)
[2016-11-02 09:25:29] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: mining rate
[2016-11-02 09:25:30] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-02 09:25:44] l3f : BitMEX_Jack: how do I get into the wechat group?
[2016-11-02 09:25:45] rapidtrades : so that's what 1 ZEC per hr?
[2016-11-02 09:26:03] CapitalGains : So 0.36 ZEC for every mined BTC at the moment
[2016-11-02 09:26:04] BitMEX_Jack : l3f: Give me your wechat id
[2016-11-02 09:26:21] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: how did u get the "per btc"?
[2016-11-02 09:26:22] l3f : BitMex_Jack: not in public m80
[2016-11-02 09:26:25] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Jack: arbitrage0001
[2016-11-02 09:26:38] arbitrage001 : oh siht, i release my id
[2016-11-02 09:26:40] CapitalGains : 2.5 mins vs 10 mins mining time
[2016-11-02 09:26:42] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: throwing 3 btc @ it, mining @ 75 kSol atm
[2016-11-02 09:26:44] arbitrage001 : pls dont hack me
[2016-11-02 09:27:08] l3f : arbitrage001: hacked, gg for you
[2016-11-02 09:29:13] BitMEX_Jack : arbitrage001: just sent the friend request to u
[2016-11-02 09:30:18] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Jack: dont see
[2016-11-02 09:30:42] UncleCreepy : how can 1 ZEC be worth 3 times more at polo?
[2016-11-02 09:30:42] arbitrage001 : maybe slow server
[2016-11-02 09:31:03] arbitrage001 : UncleCreepy: cuz people here want to give free money
[2016-11-02 09:31:04] BitMEX_Jack : u can chat your wechat again
[2016-11-02 09:31:11] BitMEX_Jack : check your wechat*
[2016-11-02 09:31:22] BitMEX_Jack : I have sent twice
[2016-11-02 09:31:32] wurstgelee : polo walling @ 1.5
[2016-11-02 09:31:41] wurstgelee : defending it for a while now
[2016-11-02 09:32:06] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: Round earnings est: 0.0782 ZEC
[2016-11-02 09:32:16] wurstgelee : was 0.1 a few minutes ago
[2016-11-02 09:32:23] wurstgelee : so..thats what i get per suprnove-mined block
[2016-11-02 09:32:29] wurstgelee : *suprnova
[2016-11-02 09:32:50] BitMEX_Jack : For the rest of the people, if u do not want to disclose your information in public, u may send an email to support@bitmex.com and request for a wechat & QQ group invitation, by stating your wechat & QQ id.
[2016-11-02 09:32:50] rapidtrades : man running a pool must be nice
[2016-11-02 09:33:08] rapidtrades : getting a % without doing much
[2016-11-02 09:33:18] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Jack: not sure what happen. but i dont get notification on wechat
[2016-11-02 09:33:28] l3f : This volume must be fucking minscicue on ZEC
[2016-11-02 09:33:53] BitMEX_Jack : arbitrage001: Send an email to support@bitmex.com then, we will handle your request.
[2016-11-02 09:34:01] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Jack: ok
[2016-11-02 09:34:16] rapidtrades : ok we're moving
[2016-11-02 09:34:37] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Jack: by the way, it is arbitrage0001
[2016-11-02 09:34:39] arbitrage001 : with extra 0
[2016-11-02 09:34:56] arbitrage001 : the double 0 one, i forgot the password and change my phone number
[2016-11-02 09:35:07] BitMEX_Jack : arbitrage001: Oh I see it, Added u
[2016-11-02 09:35:26] arbitrage001 : got it this time
[2016-11-02 09:35:36] CapitalGains : I haven't seen a 55 ZEC order for a while
[2016-11-02 09:35:55] CapitalGains : Aside from liquidations
[2016-11-02 09:36:52] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: It's not you is it with that 55 bid? ;)
[2016-11-02 09:37:05] rapidtrades : wooo 55 bid
[2016-11-02 09:37:06] arbitrage001 : crap, why is zec price going up
[2016-11-02 09:37:15] arbitrage001 : i like my bid at 0.1 filled
[2016-11-02 09:37:17] rapidtrades : why? cos it's awesome
[2016-11-02 09:37:44] RocketScience : 1 usd spammer bot on usd swap
[2016-11-02 09:37:54] RocketScience : obfuscating and shit
[2016-11-02 09:39:00] rapidtrades : i think sleger is getting in the same now
[2016-11-02 09:39:05] rapidtrades : game*
[2016-11-02 09:39:25] RocketScience : what will he do?
[2016-11-02 09:39:40] rapidtrades : well u see with the 55 bid at 0.4
[2016-11-02 09:41:14] rapidtrades : sleger is mad now
[2016-11-02 09:41:45] CapitalGains : What makes you think it's him?
[2016-11-02 09:41:54] Kahir : woo
[2016-11-02 09:41:57] Kahir : whale on zcash ?
[2016-11-02 09:42:00] Kahir : zooko ?
[2016-11-02 09:42:59] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: 55 bid?
[2016-11-02 09:43:02] wurstgelee : nicehash?
[2016-11-02 09:43:11] wurstgelee : no. fixed orders ~ .3
[2016-11-02 09:43:11] CapitalGains : 44 bid
[2016-11-02 09:43:16] wurstgelee : or here?
[2016-11-02 09:43:17] CapitalGains : *55
[2016-11-02 09:43:25] wurstgelee : lol :)
[2016-11-02 09:43:52] wurstgelee : i roll with fixed orders. cba to deal with others outbidding me
[2016-11-02 09:44:07] wurstgelee : too much annoyance
[2016-11-02 09:44:44] wurstgelee : polo 1.65
[2016-11-02 09:44:49] CapitalGains : If these bidders area serious and don't plan to pull out, they could do a lot of damage to the short end of the order book
[2016-11-02 09:44:57] wurstgelee : adding more btc to the orders
[2016-11-02 09:45:03] wurstgelee : seems like a bargain atm ;9
[2016-11-02 09:45:45] rapidtrades : ahahaha 20 more
[2016-11-02 09:46:06] UncleCreepy : hahaha
[2016-11-02 09:46:14] rapidtrades : could be shorts closing
[2016-11-02 09:46:27] rapidtrades : gl with that if u are :)
[2016-11-02 09:46:33] wurstgelee : :D :D :D
[2016-11-02 09:46:36] wurstgelee : such fun
[2016-11-02 09:47:00] wurstgelee : maybe aethlios trying to get out
[2016-11-02 09:47:02] wurstgelee : no clue
[2016-11-02 09:47:35] UncleCreepy : guys im just a little fish getting in the game
[2016-11-02 09:47:41] CapitalGains : No he was at 0.35 with only 10 iirc
[2016-11-02 09:48:11] UncleCreepy : if i understand it good than its not possible to buy ZEC over here and sell it on polo?
[2016-11-02 09:48:26] wurstgelee : UncleCreepy: yes.
[2016-11-02 09:48:28] CapitalGains : Correct: it's not possible, otherwise it would have been done long ago
[2016-11-02 09:48:47] UncleCreepy : hahaha ok
[2016-11-02 09:48:51] wurstgelee : we dont trade ZEc here, we trade ZEC futures
[2016-11-02 09:48:55] aethlios : it's not me.
[2016-11-02 09:48:59] arbitrage001 : i am a pussy
[2016-11-02 09:49:05] arbitrage001 : will bid at 0.35
[2016-11-02 09:49:14] wurstgelee : aethlios: wasnt serious tbh ;)
[2016-11-02 09:49:31] UncleCreepy : Broski what are ZEC features?
[2016-11-02 09:49:41] rapidtrades : it's aethlios
[2016-11-02 09:50:26] rapidtrades : there are 4 big walls 40-30
[2016-11-02 09:50:33] rapidtrades : were they always there
[2016-11-02 09:50:44] wurstgelee : pump it polo, pump it... ;)
[2016-11-02 09:50:48] thomaskikansha : newly added ones?
[2016-11-02 09:51:03] arbitrage001 : 0.35 one is mine
[2016-11-02 09:51:12] yerb : XBT swap lost all premium, why is that?
[2016-11-02 09:51:14] arbitrage001 : just trying to play mind games with short
[2016-11-02 09:51:18] wurstgelee : excellent.
[2016-11-02 09:51:20] wurstgelee : 1.69
[2016-11-02 09:51:25] rapidtrades : yerb: funding
[2016-11-02 09:51:25] wurstgelee : MOAR HASHES
[2016-11-02 09:51:26] arbitrage001 : go baby,
[2016-11-02 09:51:27] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-02 09:51:29] arbitrage001 : pump to 5btc
[2016-11-02 09:51:42] arbitrage001 : will surely scare the crap out of short
[2016-11-02 09:51:48] yerb : rapidtrades: in 2 hours?
[2016-11-02 09:51:49] CapitalGains : If these 55 and 22 guys market buy, will be above 1 BTC here too
[2016-11-02 09:51:56] micmix : yerb: pump is over, longs don't want to pay 0.375%
[2016-11-02 09:52:08] rapidtrades : yerb: we had a few max 0.375 and two more coming
[2016-11-02 09:52:23] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: also shorting btc for the funding here
[2016-11-02 09:52:24] yerb : shit
[2016-11-02 09:53:01] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: yeah been short here for few days now but long overall
[2016-11-02 09:53:23] arbitrage001 : not sure why anyone even want to trade if they can get 1% a day
[2016-11-02 09:53:29] CapitalGains : Is that it? no more pump whales?
[2016-11-02 09:53:34] yerb : so if china pumps again, everybody will go long again?
[2016-11-02 09:53:49] rapidtrades : yerb: yes, if
[2016-11-02 09:54:10] arbitrage001 : i dont think the china crowd is in zcash yet
[2016-11-02 09:54:13] RocketScience : woodchipper time xD
[2016-11-02 09:54:30] arbitrage001 : zcash is mostly expose by western and english meda
[2016-11-02 09:54:33] arbitrage001 : media
[2016-11-02 09:54:43] arbitrage001 : as soon as our chinese overlord notice
[2016-11-02 09:54:49] arbitrage001 : who know how far they will pump
[2016-11-02 09:55:02] arbitrage001 : remember, they pump btc from 100usd to over 1200usd before
[2016-11-02 09:55:08] micmix : arbitrage001: you can get 1% a day for a day then premium goes down, it's not sustainable
[2016-11-02 09:55:49] arbitrage001 : micmix: yes, but will take it as long as i can
[2016-11-02 09:56:04] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: we need big chinese sites to trade it tho
[2016-11-02 09:56:17] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: it will eventually
[2016-11-02 09:56:35] arbitrage001 : imagine okcoin and the next big 2 exchanges in china add them
[2016-11-02 09:57:04] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-11-02 09:57:29] rapidtrades : okc add would pump it to 5 :)
[2016-11-02 09:57:39] aethlios : why do you focus now on dead zec and not to the KIng???
[2016-11-02 09:58:08] rapidtrades : zec=1.6 btc, is king
[2016-11-02 09:58:10] wurstgelee : aethlios: its possible to do both ;)
[2016-11-02 09:58:22] micmix : okc didn't add eth when it was at peek hype, I doubt they will add zec
[2016-11-02 09:58:30] CapitalGains : That was an incredibly short-lived pump by the 20 and 55 order guys
[2016-11-02 09:59:11] micmix : * peak hype
[2016-11-02 09:59:36] rapidtrades : not there yet m8 :)
[2016-11-02 09:59:39] wurstgelee : micmix: ppek hype is funnier ;)
[2016-11-02 09:59:43] wurstgelee : peek
[2016-11-02 09:59:52] micmix : lol
[2016-11-02 10:00:00] RocketScience : zec will never be as interesting as in the first day :D
[2016-11-02 10:00:17] micmix : autocorrect ftw
[2016-11-02 10:00:20] aethlios : zec founders will receive 2,1 mill coins in 4 years, with 30 usd average price btc holders will fund them with 63 million to have a nice life and fund new zcash fancy scams.
[2016-11-02 10:00:21] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-02 10:00:40] wurstgelee : *yawn* ..so 4 years?
[2016-11-02 10:00:48] wurstgelee : better dump everything now
[2016-11-02 10:00:48] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-02 10:02:22] aethlios : my last 5 shorts at 0,35, offering you a bargain short entry.
[2016-11-02 10:06:03] sally : lol noobs keep coming here and think they can arb ZEC
[2016-11-02 10:06:19] l3f : ZEC is a fucking pain train
[2016-11-02 10:06:29] l3f : don't ride the ZEC unless you got balls
[2016-11-02 10:06:32] sally : when they realise they cant withdraw its so confusing
[2016-11-02 10:06:43] l3f : three years old and already being manipulated
[2016-11-02 10:06:47] l3f : days*
[2016-11-02 10:06:55] wurstgelee : "already"?
[2016-11-02 10:07:08] l3f : -7 days old and was already manipulated
[2016-11-02 10:07:17] wurstgelee : when would you manipulate a coin if not while one low supply?
[2016-11-02 10:07:24] wurstgelee : *on
[2016-11-02 10:08:46] RocketScience : china bless us with a exit before funding
[2016-11-02 10:09:43] RocketScience : China has heard my call!!!
[2016-11-02 10:09:53] RocketScience : to the moon
[2016-11-02 10:10:45] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-02 10:11:03] RocketScience : bitmexit xD
[2016-11-02 10:11:28] wurstgelee : damn, i accidentally shorted z16
[2016-11-02 10:11:32] wurstgelee : wrong contract
[2016-11-02 10:11:33] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-02 10:11:51] RocketScience : no funding for you xD
[2016-11-02 10:12:04] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-02 10:12:05] rapidtrades : i see a pattern ...
[2016-11-02 10:12:12] RocketScience : enlighten us
[2016-11-02 10:12:26] RocketScience : wait with your short
[2016-11-02 10:12:30] RocketScience : it will try to recover
[2016-11-02 10:12:40] wurstgelee : aand i bailed
[2016-11-02 10:13:04] RocketScience : panic to the upside D:
[2016-11-02 10:13:19] micmix : wurstgelee: MM thanks you for your money ;-)
[2016-11-02 10:13:25] wurstgelee : micmix: np ;)
[2016-11-02 10:13:27] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-02 10:13:48] wurstgelee : i chose the cheap exit over risk in that case ;)
[2016-11-02 10:14:53] RocketScience : my prayers are being answered haha
[2016-11-02 10:15:06] wurstgelee : RocketScience: yes
[2016-11-02 10:16:41] CapitalGains : If I accidentally shorted I would close immediately too
[2016-11-02 10:17:19] wurstgelee : good decision so far
[2016-11-02 10:18:30] RocketScience : i wish bitstamp was as liquid as 0kcoin
[2016-11-02 10:20:27] CapitalGains : Are those bots I see changing their orders instantly here on ZEC?
[2016-11-02 10:31:06] sally : anyone thinking zec will be over 1btc or anywhere near december needs to reconsider crypto career
[2016-11-02 10:34:11] kradiav : sally: do send away our customers :P
[2016-11-02 10:34:24] kradiav : don't*
[2016-11-02 10:38:29] sally : lol sorry
[2016-11-02 10:38:49] sally : Zec is actually a perfect buy for easy profit at this level
[2016-11-02 10:38:57] sally : its a no brainer
[2016-11-02 10:39:08] CapitalGains : There we go!
[2016-11-02 10:42:08] CapitalGains : Cheers folks, I'm going to call ZEC trading a day until it reaches 0.1 (it's been good while it's lasted, but my actual work is suffering). Have fun!
[2016-11-02 10:45:02] wurstgelee : sally: welcome to the club of people who know ;)
[2016-11-02 10:45:24] rapidtrades : sally so smart right now
[2016-11-02 10:58:03] sally : what is btc doing tonight
[2016-11-02 10:58:27] sally : looks like it will shed some gains
[2016-11-02 11:21:51] seafood : Would anyone be willing to teach a newbie about how futures contracts work?
[2016-11-02 11:22:08] seafood : I find the documentation a little too jargon laden