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[2016-11-01 13:28:03] laisee : ... a.k.a. the good old days of ZEC
[2016-11-01 13:28:05] wurstgelee : we still had them, like yesterday
[2016-11-01 13:28:12] wurstgelee : 100s of conts got adl
[2016-11-01 13:28:29] wurstgelee : just earlier tho. .8 or sth iirc?
[2016-11-01 13:29:16] wurstgelee : funny thing is, zec is the only stable alt today
[2016-11-01 13:29:53] wurstgelee : stable as in "dont give af about btc pumping a bit"
[2016-11-01 13:32:29] CapitalGains : Indeed, the ZEC price is disconnected from everything except the ZEC market itself.
[2016-11-01 13:32:56] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Are you still long on ZEC?
[2016-11-01 13:35:03] public username 321 : One quick question: if i have a short open and buy a long will the short be canceled or will i get a second position?
[2016-11-01 13:36:10] blacktuesday : no
[2016-11-01 13:36:48] public username 321 : the short will be canceled out if i have one open in case i buy a long no matter in wich way i buy the long, right?
[2016-11-01 13:37:02] public username 321 : So i can close a short with a hidden long too?
[2016-11-01 13:37:02] blacktuesday : on same contract - short will close when you buy long
[2016-11-01 13:37:20] public username 321 : ok, cool. Thanks.
[2016-11-01 13:40:10] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: again. yep
[2016-11-01 13:40:30] wurstgelee : few conts tho, didnt get more fills
[2016-11-01 13:41:22] wurstgelee : if people want to sell for .4 i am willing to provide liquidity for them to do so ;)
[2016-11-01 13:41:28] CapitalGains : I closed my long too low and have had to sit out for a while - people aren't shorting enough. Smart. But irritating.
[2016-11-01 13:41:45] wurstgelee : yep. shorters finally scared i guess
[2016-11-01 13:42:27] CapitalGains : You said it, I'm also happy to provide liquidity around 0.3-4, but not here.
[2016-11-01 13:42:53] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 13:43:14] public username 321 : shorters will come back at one point ;)
[2016-11-01 13:43:22] wurstgelee : i wonder how many hidden öong orders are sitting down there...
[2016-11-01 13:43:29] wurstgelee : *long
[2016-11-01 13:44:25] wurstgelee : public username 321: ofc. there is a time for shorts. but not know at 80% discount to spot
[2016-11-01 13:44:28] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 13:44:42] wurstgelee : *now
[2016-11-01 13:45:21] public username 321 : in december 220000 zec will be mined to my knowledge so no way the price is holding till settlement imo
[2016-11-01 13:45:58] public username 321 : I think the future being priced so much below spot is correct
[2016-11-01 13:46:12] MrRGnome : goddamn admins are having a party and won't let me in, they put me in the closet
[2016-11-01 13:47:50] wurstgelee : public username 321: we will see. ;)
[2016-11-01 13:48:39] drag : no
[2016-11-01 13:48:42] public username 321 : sure, if everyone had the same opinion there wouldn't be a market
[2016-11-01 13:48:53] drag : i dont think so
[2016-11-01 13:49:21] drag : maybe
[2016-11-01 13:49:25] wurstgelee : drag: me neither but there is no point in arguing about that.
[2016-11-01 13:49:27] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 13:49:53] wurstgelee : also that market argument +1
[2016-11-01 13:50:06] messiaen8844 : next btc stop $800
[2016-11-01 13:50:07] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/KTAgjj4d/
[2016-11-01 13:50:18] messiaen8844 : break that and we have a new ATH possibility
[2016-11-01 13:50:41] wurstgelee : messiaen8844: without a hunt for late longs?
[2016-11-01 13:50:53] wurstgelee : straight to 800?
[2016-11-01 13:51:05] messiaen8844 : dip was 680
[2016-11-01 13:51:35] wurstgelee : maybe. enought room for another one between here and 800 imo
[2016-11-01 13:51:43] messiaen8844 : well, this a weekly chart
[2016-11-01 13:51:58] messiaen8844 : 760-780-800 all tough spots
[2016-11-01 13:52:05] wurstgelee : some 20x have to die i figure
[2016-11-01 13:52:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 13:52:08] messiaen8844 : but ultimately that's seem the target
[2016-11-01 13:52:15] wurstgelee : agreed
[2016-11-01 13:52:26] messiaen8844 : I think bear blood more likely
[2016-11-01 13:52:51] wurstgelee : or both
[2016-11-01 13:53:14] messiaen8844 : well, probably some crazy forex moves, just lower leverage
[2016-11-01 13:53:24] gustavo7 : was okcoin offline or is that just bitcoinwisdom
[2016-11-01 13:53:25] messiaen8844 : or wait $800+
[2016-11-01 13:53:25] wurstgelee : move up another 20, hunt &mc late longs, new highs, mc horts
[2016-11-01 13:53:39] wurstgelee : *shorts
[2016-11-01 13:53:47] wurstgelee : much blood for the pump god
[2016-11-01 13:53:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 13:53:56] CapitalGains : I look forward to buying some cheap alts
[2016-11-01 13:54:06] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 13:54:22] wurstgelee : transfered enough to polo and bittrwx for that
[2016-11-01 13:54:22] CapitalGains : Alt sale, 50% off :D
[2016-11-01 13:54:27] CapitalGains : Coming up
[2016-11-01 13:54:33] messiaen8844 : what if they are actually overpriced now?
[2016-11-01 13:54:39] wurstgelee : been to late because i didnt dp that in advance a few times
[2016-11-01 13:54:50] messiaen8844 : VERY overpriced?
[2016-11-01 13:54:52] wurstgelee : *do
[2016-11-01 13:54:57] wurstgelee : alts?
[2016-11-01 13:55:01] messiaen8844 : yep
[2016-11-01 13:55:17] wurstgelee : dont think so tbh
[2016-11-01 13:55:30] wurstgelee : rising btc market cap lets money flow into alts
[2016-11-01 13:55:33] wurstgelee : subsequently
[2016-11-01 13:56:17] CapitalGains : Well, considering XMR is going for 1/400 of what ZEC is, I'd say it's not as OP as it could be
[2016-11-01 13:56:19] messiaen8844 : I see a lot more doom for ETH and XMR still
[2016-11-01 13:56:24] messiaen8844 : ZCASH next year might be a buy
[2016-11-01 13:56:46] wurstgelee : at least the money of those who know how the alt/btc cycle works. and those are likely to have more mone after a btc run than those who dont.
[2016-11-01 13:56:57] wurstgelee : xmr is done imo
[2016-11-01 13:57:09] wurstgelee : as long as zcash doesnt fuck up
[2016-11-01 13:57:44] MrRGnome : wurstgelee: I couldn't disagree more.
[2016-11-01 13:57:46] wurstgelee : sure, its still there etcbut lost ita status as anon coin no 1
[2016-11-01 13:57:47] CapitalGains : Think so? I think Zcash is going to have some nice crises in store for it when the slow start ends and the block reward hits 50 ZEC every 2.5 minute block... if not before
[2016-11-01 13:57:59] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: thats the beauty of it ;)
[2016-11-01 13:58:07] wurstgelee : EVeryone has opinions
[2016-11-01 13:58:11] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 13:58:20] messiaen8844 : ZCash is bootstrapped very differently than other crypto
[2016-11-01 13:58:25] messiaen8844 : we'll see very wild swings
[2016-11-01 13:58:31] MrRGnome : yep, without multiple vies no one would fill each others orders
[2016-11-01 13:58:35] MrRGnome : *views
[2016-11-01 13:58:36] kradiav : ZEC, doesn't have verifiable money supply (fake coins can be created without anyone knowing), plus you have the crap of the toxic waste trusted setup, failed by design
[2016-11-01 13:59:21] wurstgelee : kradiav: " general" public wont care too much for that i guess
[2016-11-01 13:59:37] wurstgelee : altho u are correct ofc
[2016-11-01 13:59:43] CapitalGains : Anyway, I'd rather have 400 XMR than 1 ZEC right now :P
[2016-11-01 13:59:51] wurstgelee : haha yes
[2016-11-01 13:59:59] messiaen8844 : kradiav: is money supply an issue? it could be used just as an intermediate currency... but then, no point having a high value also
[2016-11-01 14:00:08] MrRGnome : wurstgelee: In the same way the general public si entranced by its seemingly high price without understanding the supply fundamentals, they will be equally entranced with its inflationary fall
[2016-11-01 14:00:30] CapitalGains : It's going to have a fabulous crash, probably several
[2016-11-01 14:00:32] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: so?
[2016-11-01 14:00:43] wurstgelee : crash ofc
[2016-11-01 14:01:21] wurstgelee : typing on mobile sucks. Brb, home soon
[2016-11-01 14:01:23] MrRGnome : Quick question to anyone out here, would any of you guys be interested in a tool that enabled you to automatically spool up google compute engine at a desired scale for mining, kinda one click mining farm
[2016-11-01 14:01:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:01:35] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: yes
[2016-11-01 14:01:48] wurstgelee : without knowing details, generally yes
[2016-11-01 14:01:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:02:24] Cheese : MrRGnome: yes
[2016-11-01 14:02:32] wurstgelee : its usually too expensive tho because the gpus suck
[2016-11-01 14:02:42] MrRGnome : I have built such a tool, and I'm currently designing a trust model that will effectively allow users to maintain all of their security credentials locally while allowing a thrid party to manage their mining infrastructure - with the user having the option to audit all commands being sent through them to the servers
[2016-11-01 14:02:53] wurstgelee : its ok with free credit
[2016-11-01 14:03:02] MrRGnome : Yeah that's kind of what this takes advantage of
[2016-11-01 14:03:06] wurstgelee : but not viable vs nicehash imo
[2016-11-01 14:03:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:03:25] MrRGnome : Raw hashing it should be much cheaper than nice hash by my calculations
[2016-11-01 14:03:32] MrRGnome : At least for zcash right now, for example
[2016-11-01 14:03:46] wurstgelee : depends on algo, no?
[2016-11-01 14:03:53] wurstgelee : It is?
[2016-11-01 14:03:56] wurstgelee : Damn
[2016-11-01 14:04:09] wurstgelee : i should finish my azure stuff
[2016-11-01 14:04:13] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:04:14] MrRGnome : Yeah it does and the setup. My google compute cloud setup is very cost effective compared to every other cloud service
[2016-11-01 14:04:25] MrRGnome : mostly due to preemptible instancing and
[2016-11-01 14:04:29] wurstgelee : ok..cloud services are crap tho
[2016-11-01 14:05:01] MrRGnome : factors like they give you free time if you are prempted, so you can maximize that. Plus the free $300 usd promotional funds
[2016-11-01 14:05:02] wurstgelee : Vastly overpriced by factor 100x or more last time i checked
[2016-11-01 14:05:09] wurstgelee : prob a little less now tho
[2016-11-01 14:05:35] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: yes ofc. with free funds it works :)
[2016-11-01 14:05:43] wurstgelee : Cant lose on that
[2016-11-01 14:06:05] MrRGnome : I'm mining for about half of what it costs to make a zcash,a nd I'm doing it with googles money. Obviously you would want to pick and choose the coin/algo/best price
[2016-11-01 14:06:35] wurstgelee : I have another idea/offer. Brb 10 mins with more
[2016-11-01 14:10:03] wurstgelee : so..re
[2016-11-01 14:11:14] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: i am considering to set up a pool for the next "big thing" in altcoin space with a minimum number of required confirmations, just for fun. (not for profit on my side)
[2016-11-01 14:11:27] wurstgelee : would give a big early-dumping advantage over regular pools
[2016-11-01 14:11:34] wurstgelee : because less confirmations.... ;)
[2016-11-01 14:11:45] MrRGnome : I imagine it's a pain in the ass dealing with the no/little profit and the constant ddos
[2016-11-01 14:11:51] MrRGnome : hahaha a worthy goal
[2016-11-01 14:11:55] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-01 14:11:57] wurstgelee : the only tbh
[2016-11-01 14:12:14] wurstgelee : just for the early game....
[2016-11-01 14:12:14] arbitrage001 : hello
[2016-11-01 14:12:26] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: hi
[2016-11-01 14:12:33] arbitrage001 : where is the setting for the menu that pop up when you enter order?
[2016-11-01 14:12:34] Stevo : hello, is there a page to check the status of the insurance fund?
[2016-11-01 14:12:45] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: hope you are doing well and well position for sez
[2016-11-01 14:12:49] arbitrage001 : zec
[2016-11-01 14:13:05] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: tbh, zero profit. i have some spare, hosted root vms ....so no costs on my side
[2016-11-01 14:13:14] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: so far everything went according to plan
[2016-11-01 14:13:18] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-01 14:13:34] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: wish i had balls yesterday and bought more below 0.3
[2016-11-01 14:13:47] MrRGnome : Can one of the admins explain wtf they took away my perms for in ts? Was it so I wouldn't interrupt you giving priviledged information to market makers?
[2016-11-01 14:14:25] MrRGnome : Because that sure looks like what I saw
[2016-11-01 14:15:05] wurstgelee : you reaqlly think they made that thewallwillgo-thewallwillstay game without contacting the MMs?
[2016-11-01 14:15:18] wurstgelee : i am 99% sure the 2nd decision happend becauxse of MM veto
[2016-11-01 14:15:23] wurstgelee : but bthen agaqin
[2016-11-01 14:15:29] MrRGnome : They explicitly have stated that they consult MMs before changes but not the public
[2016-11-01 14:15:31] wurstgelee : i doubt there was a MM in zec that early
[2016-11-01 14:15:31] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:15:55] Cheese : any support online?
[2016-11-01 14:16:05] MrRGnome : They are busy conspiring against us
[2016-11-01 14:16:05] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: the problem is that they possible announced in public first, public acted, then revoked that decision
[2016-11-01 14:16:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:16:10] arbitrage001 : i like support too
[2016-11-01 14:16:33] arbitrage001 : when i enter order, normally there is a warning pop up menu
[2016-11-01 14:16:34] MrRGnome : wurstgelee: which is the difference between an announcement and a discussion
[2016-11-01 14:16:37] arbitrage001 : now it is gone
[2016-11-01 14:16:42] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: yep
[2016-11-01 14:17:30] Rado : arbitrage001: you can enable/disable that
[2016-11-01 14:17:38] arbitrage001 : Rado: where?
[2016-11-01 14:17:42] Cheese : they are reading my ticket before answering if they are online
[2016-11-01 14:17:44] arbitrage001 : looking and couldnt find
[2016-11-01 14:17:45] Rado : I like the pop up confirmation
[2016-11-01 14:17:51] Rado : specially when I use mobile
[2016-11-01 14:17:51] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: i only have those popups on mobile oO
[2016-11-01 14:17:53] Rado : fat fingers
[2016-11-01 14:17:59] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 14:18:02] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: well, i have fat fingers
[2016-11-01 14:18:12] wurstgelee : haha, me2
[2016-11-01 14:18:15] Rado : wurstgelee: I have them on desktop as well
[2016-11-01 14:18:15] arbitrage001 : Rado: i have fat fingers
[2016-11-01 14:18:34] BitMEX_Greg : Cheese: Hi how are you
[2016-11-01 14:18:35] arbitrage001 : Rado: where is the setting for confirmation menu?
[2016-11-01 14:18:55] Rado : https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2016-11-01 14:18:59] MrRGnome : on desktop it's more like tourettes clicks
[2016-11-01 14:19:06] Cheese : BitMEX_Greg: good, I was checking to see if they are still looking in to my ticket, I havent herd back
[2016-11-01 14:19:09] Rado : Fat Finger Protection
[2016-11-01 14:19:21] arbitrage001 : Rado: it is ticked
[2016-11-01 14:19:29] arbitrage001 : but the menu isnt showing
[2016-11-01 14:19:37] Rado : then ask BitMEX support
[2016-11-01 14:20:04] arbitrage001 : nm, limit one isnt ticked
[2016-11-01 14:20:08] arbitrage001 : Rado: thank you
[2016-11-01 14:20:18] BitMEX_Greg : Cheese: Your ticket you submitted on Friday was answered 2 days ago
[2016-11-01 14:20:22] Rado : np
[2016-11-01 14:20:49] Rado : I think I like this trade
[2016-11-01 14:20:51] Rado : 1.2035 XBT (855.69%)
[2016-11-01 14:21:02] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: are jbtc and sunny bitmex staff?
[2016-11-01 14:21:48] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: Yes they are
[2016-11-01 14:22:57] MrRGnome : STOP MOVING ME
[2016-11-01 14:22:59] Cheese : BitMEX_Greg: did.t see the response yes. see it now
[2016-11-01 14:23:00] MrRGnome : I AM NOT A PINGPONG BALL
[2016-11-01 14:24:01] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: 8)
[2016-11-01 14:25:02] BitMEX_Greg : Cheese: ok sure
[2016-11-01 14:25:33] MrRGnome : These admins basically locked me in a closet and gagged me. if teamspeak was real life.
[2016-11-01 14:25:56] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: they pulled a rapid on you?
[2016-11-01 14:26:01] wurstgelee : btw...is he free to speak again?
[2016-11-01 14:26:04] mjones : short xbtz16 and hope for a dump that rekts those fomo longs
[2016-11-01 14:26:05] MrRGnome : Yeah they totally did
[2016-11-01 14:26:23] messiaen8844 : short bull markets and get riekt
[2016-11-01 14:26:32] wurstgelee : messiaen8844 true
[2016-11-01 14:26:35] public username 321 : zcrash
[2016-11-01 14:26:40] messiaen8844 : better wait for a dip
[2016-11-01 14:26:52] messiaen8844 : waiting that Zcash dip to 0.001 ;D
[2016-11-01 14:26:54] mjones : dont short a dump in a bull market. short before the dump or buy the dip.
[2016-11-01 14:27:08] Rado : mjones: this has been very profitable
[2016-11-01 14:27:08] wurstgelee : buying dip in bull market is safer
[2016-11-01 14:27:16] wurstgelee : than shorting in it
[2016-11-01 14:27:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:27:22] mjones : i tried buying the dip at $720
[2016-11-01 14:27:23] Rado : long XBTZ16
[2016-11-01 14:27:32] messiaen8844 : mrjones: have plenty of collateral and scale the short wisely
[2016-11-01 14:27:33] mjones : got margin called at $713 and then price went to $780
[2016-11-01 14:27:43] messiaen8844 : but it's not topping yet imo
[2016-11-01 14:27:48] Rado : mjones: I filled at $711
[2016-11-01 14:27:51] messiaen8844 : short 4 digits :)
[2016-11-01 14:28:07] Rado : you are using too much of your balance
[2016-11-01 14:28:11] MrRGnome : I'd love to see a strong btc dip here before more up
[2016-11-01 14:28:18] Rado : if you got margin called
[2016-11-01 14:28:24] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: most do i figure ;)
[2016-11-01 14:28:38] wurstgelee : well, except for the open longs
[2016-11-01 14:28:46] wurstgelee : so its 50:50
[2016-11-01 14:28:48] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-01 14:29:38] MrRGnome : I've got half my ass in ethereum, which isn't so different from having it hanging out a window. I feel a little blind about what's coming and at risk.
[2016-11-01 14:30:34] wurstgelee : you held through the dumping the last weeks?
[2016-11-01 14:30:36] wurstgelee : or just bought?
[2016-11-01 14:30:39] CapitalGains : MrRGnome: I'm sure the uncertainty is killing you. Gotta have nerves to invest in and hold crypto... And also, there's no "right answer" to the question of what you should do until it's too late.
[2016-11-01 14:31:18] MrRGnome : CapitalGains: You don't know the half of it. I've really buggered this trade, been holding various levels of eth since 0.01850
[2016-11-01 14:31:50] MrRGnome : I could exit now but greed has the best of me, not enough eth resistance to get out when it might bump hard
[2016-11-01 14:31:57] Rado : MrRGnome: holding is the keyword
[2016-11-01 14:32:12] Rado : why hold if the trade is not going in your direction
[2016-11-01 14:32:42] wurstgelee : Rado: thats the hardest part imo... dumping when its due
[2016-11-01 14:32:43] MrRGnome : Because I believe btc will dip during its bubble and cost averaging my way down means I get a nice profit when it does
[2016-11-01 14:32:45] messiaen8844 : ETH could hit 0.01-0.007 IMO
[2016-11-01 14:32:52] wurstgelee : i struggle to manage that for years
[2016-11-01 14:32:54] wurstgelee : slowly improving
[2016-11-01 14:32:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:33:08] Rado : MrRGnome: believe is another enemy of trading
[2016-11-01 14:33:22] CapitalGains : My early experience with ETH involved a lot of buying high and selling low... I've just decided to average down and hold (but smaller positions)
[2016-11-01 14:33:23] Rado : I belive BTC will go to $2000
[2016-11-01 14:33:30] Rado : but I don't make trades based on that
[2016-11-01 14:33:31] wurstgelee : believing creates bagholders
[2016-11-01 14:33:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:33:34] MrRGnome : Everyone is trading on beliefs, anyone who tells you they KNOW wht is about to happen is full of shit
[2016-11-01 14:33:43] MrRGnome : or manipulating
[2016-11-01 14:33:51] Rado : no one knows
[2016-11-01 14:34:02] Rado : trading is about preserving capital and managing risk
[2016-11-01 14:34:06] Rado : not about direction
[2016-11-01 14:34:11] MrRGnome : exactly
[2016-11-01 14:34:20] Rado : so cut your loses
[2016-11-01 14:34:20] laisee : +1
[2016-11-01 14:34:22] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: nooone knows. but basing a trade purely on beliefs is wrong nonetheless
[2016-11-01 14:34:23] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-11-01 14:34:39] MrRGnome : Rado: Why would I do that when I am just deleveraging at profit?
[2016-11-01 14:34:42] arbitrage001 : i believe in zcash
[2016-11-01 14:34:52] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: :D
[2016-11-01 14:34:56] Rado : arbitrage001: lol
[2016-11-01 14:35:15] laisee : zcash is the real thing :-0
[2016-11-01 14:35:27] MrRGnome : I believe zcash supply will be 10 times what it is today in a month
[2016-11-01 14:35:33] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-01 14:35:35] wurstgelee : :D :D :D
[2016-11-01 14:35:44] arbitrage001 : i have some order below 0.3
[2016-11-01 14:35:53] arbitrage001 : short it all the way down
[2016-11-01 14:35:53] Rado : I am short ZEC
[2016-11-01 14:35:55] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: you and everyone else smart enough :p
[2016-11-01 14:36:05] MrRGnome : I'm too pussy to short zec any more
[2016-11-01 14:36:09] Rado : I don't get people at Polo buying over 2 BTC
[2016-11-01 14:36:20] MrRGnome : If it goes back up to 1 btc I'll short
[2016-11-01 14:36:25] Boontjie : So I am at 2x leverage. All ADL lights are on... :/
[2016-11-01 14:36:29] laisee : Rado: greatestfule trades at Polo
[2016-11-01 14:36:54] arbitrage001 : i just hope my long dont get adl
[2016-11-01 14:36:55] CapitalGains : Rado: What's your short price?
[2016-11-01 14:37:20] Rado : secret
[2016-11-01 14:37:22] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-01 14:37:24] laisee : arbitrage001: been ADL'd 4 times on ZEC already
[2016-11-01 14:37:26] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-01 14:37:34] wurstgelee : laisee: every other move up...
[2016-11-01 14:37:52] laisee : all UP. ;-)
[2016-11-01 14:37:55] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-01 14:38:46] laisee : how to short when price @ bitmex is unlinked to cash trading ...
[2016-11-01 14:39:36] Rado : laisee: it is linked
[2016-11-01 14:39:44] Rado : it moves with the spot price
[2016-11-01 14:39:59] Rado : it's just at a big discount
[2016-11-01 14:39:59] CapitalGains : Not completely
[2016-11-01 14:40:10] laisee : yes, but with some huge gap in levels
[2016-11-01 14:40:21] wurstgelee : also we sometimes simply ignore polo completely
[2016-11-01 14:40:21] CapitalGains : It didn't move much here when ZEC moved from 2 - 3 yesterday
[2016-11-01 14:40:27] Rado : people think XEC will be at 0.5 come Dec 30
[2016-11-01 14:40:27] wurstgelee : that
[2016-11-01 14:40:51] Rado : CapitalGains: it went from 0.4 to 1
[2016-11-01 14:40:52] MrRGnome : It's a futures though. It shouldn't necessarily move with short term busts or booms.
[2016-11-01 14:40:58] Rado : that.s 2.5x
[2016-11-01 14:41:10] laisee : average(0.5, 2.5) == 3.00
[2016-11-01 14:41:11] CapitalGains : That was when it went from 0.8 to 2 iirc
[2016-11-01 14:41:14] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: it did on friday thanks to the polo fomo invasion ;)
[2016-11-01 14:43:03] Rado : BTC might retrace $10-20
[2016-11-01 14:43:31] MrRGnome : Rado: looking plausible
[2016-11-01 14:43:45] laisee : MrRGnome: futures follows spot + duh, avg(0,5, 2.5) == 1.5. trading shitcoins too long
[2016-11-01 14:44:08] BitMEX_Wally : MrRGnome: My apologies for moving you between rooms on the TeamSpeak server, we're trying to configure a community room
[2016-11-01 14:44:35] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Wally: I just like giving you guys a hard time, i can't pass up an opportunity for a tantrum
[2016-11-01 14:44:48] wurstgelee : hehe
[2016-11-01 14:44:53] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: it guys... :p
[2016-11-01 14:45:10] BitMEX_Wally : This is crypto, comes with the territory :)
[2016-11-01 14:45:25] wurstgelee : its a matter of job choice 2 i guess
[2016-11-01 14:45:32] MrRGnome : Was that a board meeting or something you gusy just had?
[2016-11-01 14:45:35] uncleyao : 这会儿有说中文的么？
[2016-11-01 14:46:03] uncleyao : 来聊聊天
[2016-11-01 14:46:14] sleger : when is rapid out of jail ?
[2016-11-01 14:46:24] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: I'll let him out
[2016-11-01 14:46:38] MrRGnome : when he finds his law degree and defends himself
[2016-11-01 14:46:41] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: thank
[2016-11-01 14:46:49] Rado : it's kind of dull in here without him
[2016-11-01 14:46:50] Rado : :-)
[2016-11-01 14:46:55] MrRGnome : Did he get baned finally?
[2016-11-01 14:46:58] chromaticcr1 : 还是我
[2016-11-01 14:47:08] sleger : MrRGnome: 3rd time yes
[2016-11-01 14:47:09] laisee : rapid was escorted from the premises?
[2016-11-01 14:47:14] MrRGnome : I was wondering how long it would take him to say something outrageously racist to the new userbase
[2016-11-01 14:47:14] BitMEX_Wally : Ok he's unbanned
[2016-11-01 14:47:15] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: greatly depends on how u do it tho. witty, smartass comments etc are one thing. insults are only for the intellectual challenged and are completely unnecessary imo
[2016-11-01 14:47:26] sleger : rapidtrades: talk !
[2016-11-01 14:47:37] sleger : don't be shy it's okay now
[2016-11-01 14:47:38] Rado : sleger: lol
[2016-11-01 14:47:47] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah if he just shitposts again he'll get banned again
[2016-11-01 14:48:01] MrRGnome : Well then he may as well be muted
[2016-11-01 14:48:05] MrRGnome : You're muzling the poor boy
[2016-11-01 14:48:29] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: many chat have user managed ban/mute functions
[2016-11-01 14:48:32] laisee : he needs someone to talk to ... and we're all he's got.
[2016-11-01 14:48:32] Rado : does this one?
[2016-11-01 14:48:54] MrRGnome : " !mute user" I think?
[2016-11-01 14:49:20] wurstgelee : Rado: u could probably implement a small local script in your browser to do that for u.... ;)
[2016-11-01 14:49:25] wurstgelee : shouldnt be too hard
[2016-11-01 14:49:40] Rado : no time for shit like this
[2016-11-01 14:49:45] Rado : I don't want to mute anyone
[2016-11-01 14:49:52] MrRGnome : !mute wurstgelee
[2016-11-01 14:49:54] Rado : I was asking for users that might want to do it
[2016-11-01 14:50:00] Rado : MrRGnome: lol
[2016-11-01 14:50:02] wurstgelee : same. but i'd appreciate if someone had time and does it ;)
[2016-11-01 14:50:07] MrRGnome : nah doesn't work
[2016-11-01 14:50:12] wurstgelee : Rado: usually not...but guys like that URL spammer...
[2016-11-01 14:50:14] BitMEX_Wally : We have better things to do
[2016-11-01 14:50:18] wurstgelee : i dont need them
[2016-11-01 14:50:22] Rado : wurstgelee: true
[2016-11-01 14:50:32] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: agreed
[2016-11-01 14:50:33] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 你还在做空？
[2016-11-01 14:50:49] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 恩，小仓
[2016-11-01 14:50:59] Rado : see ya all later
[2016-11-01 14:51:04] wurstgelee : Rado: cu
[2016-11-01 14:51:08] MrRGnome : Rado: bye
[2016-11-01 14:51:29] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: what are next big changes coming to the platform ?
[2016-11-01 14:51:29] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: BTC怎么看了，看着周线应该能继续的样子
[2016-11-01 14:51:40] wurstgelee : sleger: non-walled markets
[2016-11-01 14:51:57] MrRGnome : A world without walls... I'll call it - Windows!
[2016-11-01 14:52:03] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-11-01 14:52:04] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: As previously announced the altcoin swaps are getting increased leverage and becoming 7D futures
[2016-11-01 14:52:06] MrRGnome : Give me my bill gates money now pls
[2016-11-01 14:52:08] laisee : marking to marked markets
[2016-11-01 14:52:24] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: i meant in the pipes, future changes
[2016-11-01 14:52:29] uncleyao : 微博上大v刚打广告到5000
[2016-11-01 14:52:47] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Wally: @sleger Yeah, anything in that meeting you guys just had worth sharing?
[2016-11-01 14:52:52] uncleyao : 可能小拉到5100 5300 然后回调到4800
[2016-11-01 14:53:10] wurstgelee : zec marking coming mebbe? :)
[2016-11-01 14:53:17] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Nothing we can announce yet :)
[2016-11-01 14:53:37] wurstgelee : that the worst part about unnnounced announcements...
[2016-11-01 14:53:41] wurstgelee : *a
[2016-11-01 14:53:56] sleger : wonder what is the reason for not announcing what you're planning to do
[2016-11-01 14:54:06] sleger : at least you'd get users feedback / suggestions
[2016-11-01 14:54:25] MrRGnome : Yeah I agree with @sleger this is one of the things I feel you guys did wrong with other changes
[2016-11-01 14:54:29] uncleyao : 不过上不言顶的，不过大v的言论比较保守。估计也就5100 到5300了不起了。千万别做空啊，牛市不言顶。
[2016-11-01 14:54:30] wurstgelee : sleger: sometimes u have to test things first to see if they are viable...u dont usually annou nce that
[2016-11-01 14:54:31] wurstgelee : for example
[2016-11-01 14:54:32] zecz : why ZECZ16 only @ 0,55 ?
[2016-11-01 14:54:34] MrRGnome : feedback is one direction when it should be bidirectional
[2016-11-01 14:54:39] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: ICOs, synthetic USD, US equities. Lots of things we are thinking about
[2016-11-01 14:54:50] MrRGnome : synthetic USD? liek tether?
[2016-11-01 14:55:00] wurstgelee : tUSD
[2016-11-01 14:55:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 14:55:04] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, backed by 1x short XBTUSD position
[2016-11-01 14:55:06] MrRGnome : Those are some interesting spaces
[2016-11-01 14:55:06] sleger : ICOs meaningproduct like ZEC ?
[2016-11-01 14:55:13] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Yes, not that ZEC had an ICO
[2016-11-01 14:55:24] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 嗯嗯，上6周都是阳烛，而且一根比一根长，不知道有没有机会重演13年呢 哈哈～
[2016-11-01 14:55:30] wurstgelee : kinda hat, just non public
[2016-11-01 14:55:31] sleger : yes i meant the zec future before launch, but you are correct
[2016-11-01 14:55:34] wurstgelee : *had
[2016-11-01 14:55:45] MrRGnome : I need to write a quick translation bot for this irc channel so everyone can talk to eachother
[2016-11-01 14:56:02] MrRGnome : I bet they are talking about all the good stuff right in front of me and I can't even read it
[2016-11-01 14:56:23] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: crispy peking duck, 2 please
[2016-11-01 14:56:26] aethlios : new crazy staff soon only on bitmex....
[2016-11-01 14:56:27] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-11-01 14:56:48] chromaticcr1 : one more peking duck please
[2016-11-01 14:57:08] mjones : what are the 2 exchanges that make up the price for xbt
[2016-11-01 14:57:09] wurstgelee : chromaticcr1: haha, yep. i just made myself want one to
[2016-11-01 14:57:13] wurstgelee : prob dinner tonight
[2016-11-01 14:57:16] mjones : bitstamp and china?
[2016-11-01 14:57:31] BitMEX_Wally : mjones: Bitstamp and OKCoin: http://kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-11-01 14:57:35] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 除非有什么东西能拉伸，例如人民币对美元跌破6.8 6.9
[2016-11-01 14:57:59] wurstgelee : maybe everyone should start to write in his mother's tongue
[2016-11-01 14:58:02] wurstgelee : for more diversity
[2016-11-01 14:58:16] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: should do a Trump will be president, settling at 0 or 1
[2016-11-01 14:58:23] wurstgelee : sleger: !!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-11-01 14:58:28] wurstgelee : that could be great fun
[2016-11-01 14:58:36] wurstgelee : easy to implement
[2016-11-01 14:58:38] arbitrage001 : sleger: dont think trump will win
[2016-11-01 14:58:46] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: place your future bets accordingly :p
[2016-11-01 14:58:48] sleger : arbitrage001: great then we have a seller
[2016-11-01 14:58:59] arbitrage001 : actually
[2016-11-01 14:59:10] arbitrage001 : dont think hillary will win either
[2016-11-01 14:59:11] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.116006120
[2016-11-01 14:59:19] arbitrage001 : so, i am guarantee to lose my bet
[2016-11-01 14:59:21] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: i took my bet on fairlay
[2016-11-01 14:59:27] MrRGnome : I can tell you with 100% certainty that both the USA and the world will lose either way
[2016-11-01 14:59:31] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: i know there are a lot of markets.....but also with leverage? :D
[2016-11-01 14:59:35] uncleyao : 13年那时候傻子都赚钱，不知不觉又过了3年。唉依然屌丝
[2016-11-01 14:59:37] wurstgelee : well no
[2016-11-01 14:59:39] wurstgelee : that cant work
[2016-11-01 14:59:40] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao:很大机会，这个礼拜有美联储会议，中国有机会在这个之前将中间价调低向市场施压
[2016-11-01 14:59:40] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-01 14:59:43] wurstgelee : scratch that
[2016-11-01 14:59:52] BitMEX_Wally : If we did a prediction market it would be 100% margined because it would have to pay out
[2016-11-01 15:00:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 15:00:09] wurstgelee : doesnt matter tho, still great fun
[2016-11-01 15:00:14] BitMEX_Wally : 100% to bid at x, and 100% of 1-x to offer at x
[2016-11-01 15:00:26] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: not sure it has to be 100% margined
[2016-11-01 15:00:27] MrRGnome : I'm down to clown with that. I insist however the first test market is on rapidtrades law degree, does it exist or not?
[2016-11-01 15:00:30] wurstgelee : maybe do it as a recurring feature whenever big decision with worldwide interest take place
[2016-11-01 15:00:34] wurstgelee : brexit, us election ...etc
[2016-11-01 15:00:37] wurstgelee : stuff like that
[2016-11-01 15:00:37] sleger : you can also adl on settlement assuming there is a big jump
[2016-11-01 15:00:52] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 你何时开始玩的，我11年中接触比特币的
[2016-11-01 15:01:20] wurstgelee : @BitMEX_Wally bitmex would be first mover amongst exchanges i guess
[2016-11-01 15:01:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 15:01:38] uncleyao : 我就是13年比特币涨到3千的时候入场的。
[2016-11-01 15:01:40] laisee : sidebets on troll box
[2016-11-01 15:01:57] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 那你岂不是很多币
[2016-11-01 15:02:17] laisee : Short XBTUSD and Long TRUMPski
[2016-11-01 15:02:24] wurstgelee : i really think that would work und would be a great idea. even if only for PR value
[2016-11-01 15:02:32] wurstgelee : on bitmex side
[2016-11-01 15:02:35] wurstgelee : trollbox would have fun
[2016-11-01 15:02:36] MrRGnome : Someone tell trump to make ethereum great again
[2016-11-01 15:02:41] wurstgelee : pretty sure about that
[2016-11-01 15:02:51] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 不是.... 当时我就一个高中生... 拿了，大概100CNY一个，花了新年红包的钱买了大概10个
[2016-11-01 15:03:07] sleger : if it works maybe i can have my 10k back ?
[2016-11-01 15:03:24] wurstgelee : sleger: after that, i want mine i lost to the wall
[2016-11-01 15:03:31] wurstgelee : not 10k tho, but ~ 10 btc
[2016-11-01 15:03:32] laisee : u will need to set that event up as a preidction mkt
[2016-11-01 15:03:37] wurstgelee : soon to be 10k
[2016-11-01 15:03:38] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-11-01 15:03:55] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 那13年山寨币那几波你赶上了不？都是100倍 1000倍的。那时候我刚好赶上。
[2016-11-01 15:04:16] chromaticcr1 : 山寨没怎么玩
[2016-11-01 15:04:33] wurstgelee : 10000
[2016-11-01 15:04:40] wurstgelee : 13 seems wrong
[2016-11-01 15:04:42] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 老玩家。。
[2016-11-01 15:05:03] arbitrage001 : chat room is very chatty lately
[2016-11-01 15:05:13] arbitrage001 : mood is good?
[2016-11-01 15:05:14] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: pump time
[2016-11-01 15:05:21] chromaticcr1 : 老韭菜而已，14年死多到15年初，疼死了
[2016-11-01 15:05:21] wurstgelee : usually like that, isnt it?
[2016-11-01 15:05:21] MrRGnome : lots of new users from zcash and the asia expansion
[2016-11-01 15:05:23] arbitrage001 : everyone here making money?
[2016-11-01 15:05:40] zecz : ZEC will reach 5-100 BTC again, to little amount of coins
[2016-11-01 15:05:41] MrRGnome : Nope, just losing it
[2016-11-01 15:05:43] laisee : Z$, yes
[2016-11-01 15:05:54] zecz : before the bubble crash for good
[2016-11-01 15:05:59] wurstgelee : zecz: speaking of polo users... ;)
[2016-11-01 15:06:06] laisee : Trump will make ZEC greate again
[2016-11-01 15:06:14] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 比特币期货碰不得啊。。
[2016-11-01 15:06:32] arbitrage001 : zecz: i will be happy if the contract settle at 3
[2016-11-01 15:06:50] wurstgelee : zecz: what you are trying to do doesnt work here. sorry. ;)
[2016-11-01 15:07:05] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 期货套利那些的，然后这个月我现在重返当年（14年）峰值的资产了
[2016-11-01 15:07:17] laisee : happy if it settless at spot
[2016-11-01 15:07:28] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 玩可玩，别大赌
[2016-11-01 15:07:30] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-11-01 15:08:10] arbitrage001 : open interest is rather small
[2016-11-01 15:08:13] wurstgelee : so...noone is using his twitter handle in here it seems? besides lockhedge?
[2016-11-01 15:08:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 15:08:22] arbitrage001 : quite conservative user base
[2016-11-01 15:08:53] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: the non conservatives got burned and went home =)
[2016-11-01 15:09:07] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: i am a loser。
[2016-11-01 15:09:40] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: -_- 大家投资风格不同而已
[2016-11-01 15:09:41] wurstgelee : u are missing a "baby" in case u are referring to beck
[2016-11-01 15:09:45] lockhedge : wurstgelee: robotfinance is my twitter handle
[2016-11-01 15:09:58] wurstgelee : lockhedge: oh, lol...i mixed something up
[2016-11-01 15:10:05] wurstgelee : thought u were someone different
[2016-11-01 15:10:11] wurstgelee : i know yours too tho
[2016-11-01 15:10:13] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 15:10:28] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: what is your view on bitfinex token?
[2016-11-01 15:10:43] arbitrage001 : think bitfinex can survive 10 years and repay everyone?
[2016-11-01 15:10:55] wurstgelee : tbh i watched that whole finex thing from the sidelines
[2016-11-01 15:11:02] wurstgelee : i didnt/dont even have an account there
[2016-11-01 15:11:08] wurstgelee : i was happy i wasnt involved
[2016-11-01 15:11:14] wurstgelee : and i didnt want to ;)
[2016-11-01 15:11:21] arbitrage001 : you dont hedge your btc?