This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

You have access to more than 50 million trollbox posts. This is more than 7 gigabyte of data hosted on a $5 server so please be patient or consider a donation

<<  >>  English  中文  Русский  한국어  日本語  Español  Français 
[2016-11-01 04:19:25] CaptainDean : Zec pump on polo
[2016-11-01 04:19:29] chromaticcr1 : 没
[2016-11-01 04:19:48] uncleyao : 做空不爆仓？
[2016-11-01 04:19:48] thomaskikansha : coinrun: maybe another wave
[2016-11-01 04:19:51] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Arthur, @BitMEX_Wally , can you guys clarify? For example, you have a 33% premium embedded in the xbtz contract, IIRC
[2016-11-01 04:20:03] QuantFocus : maybe i need to re-read where that comes from
[2016-11-01 04:20:03] uncleyao : 昨晚最高到0.9了啊。
[2016-11-01 04:20:13] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 爆啊，到点就爆啊，我储备比较多
[2016-11-01 04:20:18] QuantFocus : but it's not based on where it trades, right?
[2016-11-01 04:20:30] chromaticcr1 : 这要东西你不怕我也怕啊
[2016-11-01 04:20:39] chromaticcr1 : 妖东西*
[2016-11-01 04:20:59] BitMEX_Wally : For XBTZ16 that fair basis comes from where it is trading, measured using the order book
[2016-11-01 04:21:12] uncleyao : 昨晚明显要涨了，我买进想得个翻两三倍的。
[2016-11-01 04:21:14] thomaskikansha : polo asks down to <200ZEC
[2016-11-01 04:21:30] uncleyao : 才赚一点wtf。
[2016-11-01 04:21:44] ss : yun
[2016-11-01 04:21:52] ss : 昨晚想了半天 还是没入仓
[2016-11-01 04:21:54] uncleyao : 早知道多买点现货还好
[2016-11-01 04:22:02] ss : 果然畏惧 时候 才是 最安全的
[2016-11-01 04:22:03] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: ok. i guess it just seems counterintuitive to me. i thought it traded in that range because of the fair basis marking, not vice-versa
[2016-11-01 04:22:14] uncleyao : 现货都翻个4倍多。
[2016-11-01 04:22:27] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 远期期货与现货的关联性比较低，我做长线的，所以我来这边
[2016-11-01 04:22:36] uncleyao : 这网站太鸡肋
[2016-11-01 04:22:55] uncleyao : 盈利就给你平了。
[2016-11-01 04:23:08] ss : 是的
[2016-11-01 04:23:08] ss : 太差劲了
[2016-11-01 04:23:18] ss : 居然会帮你自动平仓
[2016-11-01 04:23:30] BitMEX_Wally : The mark price is used for unrealised PNL and triggering liquidations, but it does not affect the market value of the contract which is still supply and demand
[2016-11-01 04:23:32] uncleyao : ss 你也被平了？
[2016-11-01 04:23:38] ss : 嗯 前几天
[2016-11-01 04:23:45] chromaticcr1 : 空军都被强平都没钱赔给你了 -_-
[2016-11-01 04:23:48] BitMEX_Jinming : uncleyao: 是因为空仓的杠杆高，所以爆仓价格低，导致自动平仓。
[2016-11-01 04:23:52] ss : 买的价位非常好 结果2元就把我平掉了
[2016-11-01 04:23:55] uncleyao : 蛋疼不？
[2016-11-01 04:24:00] ss : 要知道 最高10元
[2016-11-01 04:24:11] uncleyao : 是吧
[2016-11-01 04:24:23] uncleyao : 你买的什么？2元？
[2016-11-01 04:24:30] ss : 前几天的事了
[2016-11-01 04:24:33] chromaticcr1 : 2B 啊
[2016-11-01 04:24:34] ss : 后来就撤资了
[2016-11-01 04:24:50] ss : 不自动平仓 我至少赚10倍
[2016-11-01 04:25:07] ss : 太坑了 不知道是不是规则问题
[2016-11-01 04:25:08] uncleyao : 是吧
[2016-11-01 04:25:33] uncleyao : 我就说鸡肋吧，玩期货不就是为了博这10倍的
[2016-11-01 04:26:27] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: so if there was enough supply driving the price closer to spot, the mark price would adjust to it?
[2016-11-01 04:26:28] uncleyao : 这样把你盈利限定，那输和赢一样多。那绝对是亏钱的。
[2016-11-01 04:26:30] ss : 我继续看好bitcoin 和zec
[2016-11-01 04:26:45] ss : 是啊
[2016-11-01 04:26:49] ss : 潜规则
[2016-11-01 04:27:03] coinrun : Most miners break even is 5.5BTC on ZEC
[2016-11-01 04:27:14] uncleyao : 错就爆，赢就最多翻倍。那从概率来送就是给网站送钱了。
[2016-11-01 04:27:23] chromaticcr1 : 多空盈利的限制都是对家钱包的钱
[2016-11-01 04:28:10] uncleyao : 翻几倍才能玩。要不然只能输。
[2016-11-01 04:28:28] uncleyao : 我觉得大家都是聪明人 应该能想明白
[2016-11-01 04:28:34] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: Yes
[2016-11-01 04:28:58] aethlios : zcash what a scam
[2016-11-01 04:29:10] ss : 还有什么期货网站推荐吗
[2016-11-01 04:29:25] BitMEX_Wally : Because you can arbitrage between spot and futures ('cash and carry arbitrage') the difference, called basis, is considered an interest rate
[2016-11-01 04:30:16] BitMEX_Wally : The XBTZ16 fair basis rate is 39% (annualised) which is roughly what you pay to borrow USD to go long on Bitfinex
[2016-11-01 04:30:31] BitMEX_Wally : And it is similar to the OKC basis on their December future
[2016-11-01 04:30:35] uncleyao : ok什么的没有zec玩
[2016-11-01 04:30:52] chromaticcr1 : 做空的就这家，没了
[2016-11-01 04:31:08] chromaticcr1 : 做空ZEC的*
[2016-11-01 04:31:22] uncleyao : 做空想盈利难。
[2016-11-01 04:31:33] uncleyao : 短期波动还会很大
[2016-11-01 04:32:00] uncleyao : 等你到12月再做空，那时候又没有盈利了。
[2016-11-01 04:32:08] chromaticcr1 : ... 总盈利 19B 大部分都是做空赚的
[2016-11-01 04:32:35] uncleyao : 不是你厉害，是你赶上那波了。
[2016-11-01 04:33:16] ss : 做空太危险了
[2016-11-01 04:33:58] uncleyao : 谁都知道要跌，但时间点你不可能能知道。
[2016-11-01 04:35:24] billyboy402 : any chance we can have google translate work for the troll box
[2016-11-01 04:35:59] chromaticcr1 : billyboy402: Prefer have a language tabbed trollbox
[2016-11-01 04:36:16] uncleyao : ss: 估计还会拉个几波，要不然先挖坑套利不了。
[2016-11-01 04:36:43] uncleyao : 矿
[2016-11-01 04:37:02] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 供应几何级数上升，越来越难拉了
[2016-11-01 04:37:02] ss : 你觉得挖矿性价比怎么样
[2016-11-01 04:37:35] uncleyao : 现在肯定有赚啊
[2016-11-01 04:37:44] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: thanks. need to read up on it more i guess...that and the MM tutorial you guys released
[2016-11-01 04:37:49] uncleyao : 但是投资矿机是一大笔钱
[2016-11-01 04:38:26] uncleyao : 等你买好矿机 矿机钱还没收回一半 可能就跌了。
[2016-11-01 04:39:00] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: i'm loosely familiar with basis from past experience, but definitely not an expert.
[2016-11-01 04:39:53] QuantFocus : i suppose i just had a misconception about the premium on quarterlies being driven by mark, and not mark being driven by supply/demand
[2016-11-01 04:41:13] BitMEX_Wally : More information about how we set the fair basis here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Futures-Contracts
[2016-11-01 04:42:36] HjP : BitMEX_Wally, QuantFocus, where do I find this MM tutorial?
[2016-11-01 04:43:05] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: on an unrelated note, do you think you guys would ever have an interest in setting up an ICO market?
[2016-11-01 04:43:51] QuantFocus : specifically for a project I'm developing, but possibly for something more beneficial to the exchange longer term?
[2016-11-01 04:44:22] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: We're open to discussions, email us and we can discuss: support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-01 04:44:55] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: sounds great. appreciate it!
[2016-11-01 04:45:27] QuantFocus : we're finalizing our presentation now, but i can reach out with some introductory details soon
[2016-11-01 04:45:33] HostFat : I hope that you will remove the limit from the zcash market, and all the others
[2016-11-01 04:45:43] BitMEX_Wally : HjP: https://blog.bitmex.com/tag/market-making/
[2016-11-01 04:45:47] HostFat : even the bitcoin market
[2016-11-01 04:45:50] HjP : thanks
[2016-11-01 04:46:34] HostFat : at the time of the ETF, if it will happen, the limit should be already eliminated
[2016-11-01 04:46:37] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: i'm headed out for a bit though. take care, and ttys.
[2016-11-01 04:47:22] BitMEX_Wally : There has to be a maxPrice from a technical perspective, but we can probably raise it from 10 XBT to 1000 XBT
[2016-11-01 04:48:00] BitMEX_Wally : We will announce the new maxPrice when we announce the new mark price method
[2016-11-01 04:48:30] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: haven't tried yet, but can you trade fractional units of zec?
[2016-11-01 04:48:45] BitMEX_Wally : No, we only support whole contracts
[2016-11-01 04:49:02] BitMEX_Wally : As the market settles down we will probably increase the leverage though
[2016-11-01 04:49:03] QuantFocus : so yea, shorting at the top would be difficult at 1000btc
[2016-11-01 04:49:35] QuantFocus : cool
[2016-11-01 04:50:07] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: are we days before? you have to give us 24 or 48 hours before implementing (zec mark to index)
[2016-11-01 04:51:03] aethlios : should consider asks on polo, now only 190 coins, I think we need 1000 to be sure
[2016-11-01 04:51:06] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: Yes we will give at least 24 hours notice
[2016-11-01 04:51:28] aethlios : I mean now only 200 so manipulation strong yet
[2016-11-01 04:51:57] BitMEX_Wally : When we switch the mark method from last price to fair price it will be a non event, the actual mark price will not change because there is always a fair basis applied. I do not know why everyone is so interested in it
[2016-11-01 04:52:39] chromaticcr1 : except shorts will be less likely to subject to manipulation since you will have to manipulate in spot with greater depth
[2016-11-01 04:52:46] chromaticcr1 : which is a good thing!
[2016-11-01 04:53:05] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: the problem is that cap 10 is a safety net, if polo pumps to 20 because only 200 asks, then many can go broke here.
[2016-11-01 04:55:13] chromaticcr1 : it would cost 650BTC to manipulate to 10BTC in polo
[2016-11-01 04:56:47] arbitrage001 : aethlios: dont trade if you are not willing to take the risk
[2016-11-01 04:56:59] arbitrage001 : no one forcing anyone to buy or sell
[2016-11-01 04:57:05] chromaticcr1 : would def. cost less here, and lets not forget the basis btw
[2016-11-01 04:57:57] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: reason why people should not short here
[2016-11-01 04:58:29] arbitrage001 : only take 1 whale and remove price cap to screw all the short
[2016-11-01 04:59:50] aethlios : supply will add quickly now for zec
[2016-11-01 04:59:54] chromaticcr1 : in the case of ADL, it won't worth it for the whales, but for revenge trades..... well... whales could lose their mind too
[2016-11-01 05:00:27] arbitrage001 : aethlios: and you think more supply means price will go down?
[2016-11-01 05:00:54] aethlios : arbitrage001: yes, this is already happening 3000 to 0.65
[2016-11-01 05:03:04] aethlios : inflate supplt, deflate price
[2016-11-01 05:03:05] arbitrage001 : aethlios: btc supply went up over the years, why is the price going up?
[2016-11-01 05:03:28] arbitrage001 : from 0.04 in 2008, to 700 now?
[2016-11-01 05:04:05] arbitrage001 : maybe shorting btc is safer?
[2016-11-01 05:04:22] aethlios : think zec 21 mill, btc less than 21 mill. (many lost) so how is possible in the long run zec above 1??? since btc supply less than zec??
[2016-11-01 05:04:52] chromaticcr1 : it is just part of the equation, there are too many variable so place your bets.
[2016-11-01 05:13:10] aethlios : supply x5 in 6 days
[2016-11-01 05:13:43] aethlios : supply x20 in 16 days
[2016-11-01 05:14:50] chromaticcr1 : generalize it circulation = 0.0003125*(block)^2 || Block<20k. If you have nice cards in your hand, why not just go all in?
[2016-11-01 05:15:45] aethlios : i am 15 short, never go all in, i am not gambling. plan to keep to expiration.
[2016-11-01 05:16:42] aethlios : those rallies will happen again but from lowwer prices, when 0.3 they will pump to 1. always keep hope alive.
[2016-11-01 05:16:49] arbitrage001 : you have enough collateral here for keep your short should it go to 10btc?
[2016-11-01 05:17:25] aethlios : liq. price 10.23, just want 1 week to pass to be safe
[2016-11-01 05:17:53] aethlios : when oversold i will close and re open when the next pump happens
[2016-11-01 05:18:00] arbitrage001 : risking 150 btc to make 9 btc at most
[2016-11-01 05:18:08] arbitrage001 : are you sure this is wise?
[2016-11-01 05:19:19] aethlios : arbitrage001: I shorted from 2.5, closed 0.3 and re-shorted 0.585, I will close again, so this position won't stay always open
[2016-11-01 05:19:45] aethlios : close short when oversold, re open short to the pump
[2016-11-01 05:20:04] aethlios : trend is your friend because of supply.
[2016-11-01 05:20:41] chromaticcr1 : and the structure of the contract is against you, coz infinity upside. Take a balance
[2016-11-01 05:21:49] aethlios : I don't feel comfortable with so margin in 1 position but it is 5 days more to be safer
[2016-11-01 05:31:54] drag : hello
[2016-11-01 05:40:34] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 感觉你真的是托，在这当GM
[2016-11-01 05:41:22] chromaticcr1 : @uncleyao -_- ... GM都是 BitMEX_开头的
[2016-11-01 05:41:44] uncleyao : 托
[2016-11-01 05:42:01] chromaticcr1 : -_-
[2016-11-01 05:43:09] uncleyao : 再玩一波辣条。
[2016-11-01 05:43:21] chromaticcr1 : 那么sleger 和 wurstgelee 都应该是托了，他俩都比我活跃，我就这边的常客
[2016-11-01 05:43:23] uncleyao : 就提b走人
[2016-11-01 05:43:58] chromaticcr1 : 拉条这边流动性一般...
[2016-11-01 05:44:41] uncleyao : 好像是诶。。。
[2016-11-01 05:45:02] uncleyao : 要是涨上去没人买就白瞎了。
[2016-11-01 06:04:18] ss : bitmex 感觉没什么流动性啊
[2016-11-01 06:04:24] ss : 这个最坑了
[2016-11-01 06:13:20] muirtastic : wow the ZEC price is all over the place on here...from .83 to .42 and the price on Polo really hasn't changed that much..maybe 10%
[2016-11-01 06:14:13] blacktuesday : there was a bunch of sells just now
[2016-11-01 06:14:36] blacktuesday : someone pushin it down
[2016-11-01 06:20:23] CaptainDean : BTC smell 720
[2016-11-01 06:21:18] ss : zec maybe sold to o.3
[2016-11-01 06:21:28] CaptainDean : yeah that is strange
[2016-11-01 06:21:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 2 @ 756.78 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-01 06:21:42] CaptainDean : somone wants to short it hard
[2016-11-01 06:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 19500 @ 711.58
[2016-11-01 06:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 40000 @ 711.81 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-01 06:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 850 @ 711.71
[2016-11-01 06:26:53] imabeast : just fyi https://twitter.com/ThisIsNuse/status/792934076621713408
[2016-11-01 06:29:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.415781
[2016-11-01 06:33:27] chromaticcr1 : 爆仓爆起来
[2016-11-01 06:35:39] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzniwoZPHOs
[2016-11-01 06:35:52] wurstgelee : good morning shitcoin slingers
[2016-11-01 06:36:52] CaptainDean : good coffee !
[2016-11-01 06:38:08] wurstgelee : yep. coffee. thats whats happening right now. :)
[2016-11-01 06:38:25] wurstgelee : also btc. and zec stil 2.2 btc
[2016-11-01 06:38:29] DangerandPlay : should i maintain my ETH short position a little longer? :D
[2016-11-01 06:38:35] CaptainDean : btc showing some great movement
[2016-11-01 06:38:37] wurstgelee : what a time to be a bitmex gambler
[2016-11-01 06:38:40] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 06:38:52] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: 5k
[2016-11-01 06:38:59] wurstgelee : soon
[2016-11-01 06:39:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 06:39:08] imabeast : wurst what time zone are you in?
[2016-11-01 06:39:09] imabeast : haha
[2016-11-01 06:39:21] wurstgelee : berlin tz
[2016-11-01 06:39:30] wurstgelee : imabeast: u?
[2016-11-01 06:39:42] imabeast : ah nice! what time is it htere?
[2016-11-01 06:39:43] imabeast : im pst
[2016-11-01 06:39:47] wurstgelee : 7:40 am here
[2016-11-01 06:47:09] CapitalGains : Back for more @wurtsgelee ?
[2016-11-01 06:47:17] CapitalGains : excuse the typo
[2016-11-01 06:47:43] aethlios : zcash 2 month supply 300,000 founders receive 60,000 coins, with average price of 0,2 btc they profit already 8,5 million usd. already rich in 2 months.
[2016-11-01 06:49:23] imabeast : u long @wurstgelee >
[2016-11-01 06:49:28] imabeast : in zec
[2016-11-01 06:49:45] CapitalGains : I'm loving the order book depth on ZEC - 40 deep till 0.3 (0.1 down), 40 deep till 0.99 (0.59 up if you bought at 0.4).
[2016-11-01 06:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 23 @ 0.01494
[2016-11-01 06:51:49] imabeast : short etherium
[2016-11-01 06:51:56] imabeast : https://twitter.com/ethereumproject/status/793343201465733121
[2016-11-01 06:52:08] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: lol. :) ill check in ~2 h if and what i do
[2016-11-01 06:52:11] wurstgelee : 2early
[2016-11-01 06:52:13] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 06:52:25] imabeast : wurstgelee: etherium going in the dumps
[2016-11-01 06:53:02] wurstgelee : yep. dangerous to either short or long there tho imo
[2016-11-01 06:53:14] wurstgelee : sticking to btc and zec for a while i guess
[2016-11-01 06:53:16] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 06:54:03] wurstgelee : probably has more downside
[2016-11-01 06:54:05] wurstgelee : eth
[2016-11-01 06:54:16] imabeast : yep :D
[2016-11-01 06:54:26] wurstgelee : hashes migrating to zcash, same as attention...btc pumping
[2016-11-01 06:54:40] imabeast : u long in zec?
[2016-11-01 06:54:50] wurstgelee : 2 sind a few mins
[2016-11-01 06:54:56] wurstgelee : some orders set
[2016-11-01 06:55:01] wurstgelee : *since
[2016-11-01 06:55:03] wurstgelee : 2 conts
[2016-11-01 06:55:46] wurstgelee : i would be willing to buy a few dozens.
[2016-11-01 06:56:08] wurstgelee : youre welcome @ shorters
[2016-11-01 06:56:11] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-01 06:56:55] wurstgelee : off to work. bbl
[2016-11-01 06:57:01] CaptainDean : later
[2016-11-01 06:57:03] imabeast : later
[2016-11-01 06:57:14] CaptainDean : i should be going to bed .. 3 am her e:P
[2016-11-01 06:57:26] CaptainDean : i was waiting Zec to 0.3
[2016-11-01 06:57:30] CaptainDean : missing the boat again
[2016-11-01 06:57:30] imabeast : tea,[ mp s;ee[
[2016-11-01 06:57:38] imabeast : team no sleep *
[2016-11-01 06:57:38] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-01 06:57:44] CaptainDean : :P
[2016-11-01 07:00:17] CaptainDean : this ETH short is interresting
[2016-11-01 07:00:26] CaptainDean : not sure if the issue will create some panic or not
[2016-11-01 07:01:40] CapitalGains : I really don't want to see ETH fail... I'm long on DGD
[2016-11-01 07:02:07] CaptainDean : i'm ming ETH, i don't want it to crash either ... but you know :P
[2016-11-01 07:02:37] CapitalGains : I think, at least, the devs will fight to keep it alive
[2016-11-01 07:02:48] CapitalGains : Even if the market cap implodes
[2016-11-01 07:10:53] DangerandPlay : people on other forums talking of a bottom at 0.01100 or thereabouts for ETH within next week or two :-o
[2016-11-01 07:12:10] CaptainDean : that's quite alarmist ...
[2016-11-01 07:12:26] CaptainDean : makes no sens to me
[2016-11-01 07:13:10] DangerandPlay : CaptainDean: what do you think will happen?
[2016-11-01 07:13:30] CaptainDean : DangerandPlay: i don't the coin can falls -1500 in two weeks
[2016-11-01 07:13:33] CaptainDean : -1500%
[2016-11-01 07:13:47] CaptainDean : unless a major flaw is found
[2016-11-01 07:13:57] CaptainDean : which is not the case at the moment
[2016-11-01 07:15:18] DangerandPlay : let's hope and pray
[2016-11-01 07:22:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20000 @ 715.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-01 07:24:16] blacktuesday : rektening
[2016-11-01 07:24:33] blacktuesday : moon
[2016-11-01 07:24:52] blacktuesday : finex 725 lol
[2016-11-01 07:24:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 717.62
[2016-11-01 07:25:00] imabeast : holy btc
[2016-11-01 07:25:45] chromaticcr1 : wow
[2016-11-01 07:25:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4700 @ 718.92
[2016-11-01 07:27:11] blacktuesday : fomo
[2016-11-01 07:27:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01490
[2016-11-01 07:28:49] blacktuesday : 750?
[2016-11-01 07:29:03] imabeast : we shall see
[2016-11-01 07:29:04] blacktuesday : we can do it
[2016-11-01 07:29:25] imabeast : or double top
[2016-11-01 07:29:51] blacktuesday : its got legs
[2016-11-01 07:29:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 719.84
[2016-11-01 07:30:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2 @ 720.67 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-01 07:30:13] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-11-01 07:30:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 721.04
[2016-11-01 07:31:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25000 @ 721.41 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-01 07:31:22] blacktuesday : boom
[2016-11-01 07:31:36] imabeast : eth about to get rekt
[2016-11-01 07:32:54] wurstgelee : its happening, isnt it?
[2016-11-01 07:32:57] wurstgelee : 5k
[2016-11-01 07:32:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 07:33:02] CaptainDean : we did it
[2016-11-01 07:33:09] wurstgelee : Oh lol
[2016-11-01 07:33:10] wurstgelee : Yep
[2016-11-01 07:33:13] CaptainDean : 5010
[2016-11-01 07:33:17] CaptainDean : huobi
[2016-11-01 07:34:50] wurstgelee : looks like 680 z16 guy might come out on top after all
[2016-11-01 07:35:56] wurstgelee : i dont know or see shit atm. on mobile right now
[2016-11-01 07:36:03] wurstgelee : wildly guessing
[2016-11-01 07:38:56] CaptainDean : momentum say buy but i'm not sure :P
[2016-11-01 07:41:36] y1uy : What's going o. With Btc?
[2016-11-01 07:41:40] 200822893@qq.com : 客服在吗？
[2016-11-01 07:41:58] chromaticcr1 : @BitMEX_Jinming
[2016-11-01 07:42:14] 200822893@qq.com : 想提现为何老提示，地址无效？
[2016-11-01 07:42:56] 200822893@qq.com : 我想提现到OK比特币
[2016-11-01 07:43:14] 200822893@qq.com : 地址明明是OK那边地址
[2016-11-01 07:43:16] CaptainDean : eth showing good support even with the BTC spike
[2016-11-01 07:44:40] MrRGnome : I'm looking for that eth bottom, should be a nice bounce once its in
[2016-11-01 07:45:13] CaptainDean : MrRGnome: what bottom do you expect ?
[2016-11-01 07:45:24] CaptainDean : MrRGnome: 0.013x ?
[2016-11-01 07:45:42] BitMEX_Jack : 200822893@qq.com: 你好，我是客服 Jack
[2016-11-01 07:46:00] MrRGnome : Yeah I have orders in that range. Not expecting anything specific just orders all the way down to 0.01
[2016-11-01 07:46:23] MrRGnome : wherever it decides to turn around I'll start selling
[2016-11-01 07:47:14] CaptainDean : I wish I had all the trading skills and exp you guys have ;-)
[2016-11-01 07:47:21] CaptainDean : BTC back up
[2016-11-01 07:47:43] aethlios : above 800 dec. 30 soon
[2016-11-01 07:47:49] BitMEX_Jack : 200822893@qq.com: 你可以截个图，然后qq发给我看看吗？
[2016-11-01 07:48:22] BitMEX_Jack : 200822893@qq.com: 剛加了你qq
[2016-11-01 07:51:41] MrRGnome : I really hope BitMex's asia region outreach brings us significantly more volume. That's all these instruments need, volume
[2016-11-01 07:52:51] wurstgelee : Zec dipping below 2 btc
[2016-11-01 07:53:04] CaptainDean : yep
[2016-11-01 07:53:04] wurstgelee : haha, that sounds funny
[2016-11-01 07:53:10] wurstgelee : Dipping below 2...
[2016-11-01 07:53:23] aethlios : stupid polo excahnge a bullish btc with scam zec to 1:2
[2016-11-01 07:53:41] wurstgelee : aethlios: dont hate it. use it. :)
[2016-11-01 07:54:09] aethlios : wurstgelee: you can't fight stupid, he can margin call you.
[2016-11-01 07:54:17] wurstgelee : Exactly
[2016-11-01 07:54:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 07:55:08] wurstgelee : polo herd instinct is so predictable these days. ever since it made 10k vol for alts a regular thing
[2016-11-01 07:55:49] CaptainDean : guessing BTC will explode soon if we can reach 5000 agaim
[2016-11-01 07:55:51] wurstgelee : *for those high vol alts ofc
[2016-11-01 07:56:25] wurstgelee : Retrace, margin call late longs, new highs, margin call shorts?
[2016-11-01 07:56:26] aethlios : above 800 (previous top) the road is open for 1175 previous ATH
[2016-11-01 07:56:36] wurstgelee : 5k seems great for that play
[2016-11-01 07:56:38] micmix : btw, xbtz16 here is still cheaper than okc quarterly
[2016-11-01 07:56:47] wurstgelee : Psychological barrier etc
[2016-11-01 07:58:43] aethlios : alts will be the useful idiot for btc, test new tech for btc to adopt later and transfer btc from fish to whales.
[2016-11-01 07:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 9 @ 0.01474
[2016-11-01 07:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01473
[2016-11-01 07:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.01473
[2016-11-01 07:59:51] CapitalGains : Interesting perspective @aethlios
[2016-11-01 07:59:51] aethlios : micmix: here is more expensive if you subtract the index on each contract
[2016-11-01 08:00:25] micmix : yeah, premium is a bit higher %
[2016-11-01 08:00:42] chromaticcr1 : 150k buywall , impressed
[2016-11-01 08:01:14] CaptainDean : it's not me :P
[2016-11-01 08:01:56] messiaen8844 : premium is back
[2016-11-01 08:02:13] wurstgelee : zec too
[2016-11-01 08:02:20] wurstgelee : 2btc.
[2016-11-01 08:02:57] wurstgelee : i still cant believe ppl are paying 2btc ...
[2016-11-01 08:03:35] blacktuesday : preparing rocket stage 2 seperation...
[2016-11-01 08:06:56] CaptainDean : 5000
[2016-11-01 08:07:47] blacktuesday : hhere we go
[2016-11-01 08:08:05] l3f : le btc pump game
[2016-11-01 08:08:16] l3f : tfw long btc
[2016-11-01 08:08:26] l3f : feels fucking good
[2016-11-01 08:09:00] dasdfasdf : 5000 will it break
[2016-11-01 08:09:54] CaptainDean : huobi is at 5000
[2016-11-01 08:11:19] CaptainDean : kind of double top tho now
[2016-11-01 08:12:43] CaptainDean : meeting 6 hours
[2016-11-01 08:12:44] CaptainDean : bed timne
[2016-11-01 08:12:47] CaptainDean : night guys
[2016-11-01 08:12:59] CaptainDean : - say the guy with no position :P
[2016-11-01 08:14:36] micmix : $9 premium, not bad
[2016-11-01 08:19:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 722.58
[2016-11-01 08:19:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 64541 @ 722.58 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-01 08:20:40] augusto2012 : poor bastard
[2016-11-01 08:22:10] CapitalGains : I wouldn't touch a BTC position right now
[2016-11-01 08:23:54] imabeast : i would touch an eth short tho
[2016-11-01 08:23:56] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-01 08:24:27] lockhedge : we didn't have >10$ premium on XBTUSD for a while
[2016-11-01 08:25:33] micmix : yeah, I need to allow for bigger short at such high premium
[2016-11-01 08:25:59] lockhedge : me too :)
[2016-11-01 08:28:01] wurstgelee : this is what we trained for
[2016-11-01 08:28:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 08:28:25] lockhedge : it will soon make sense to buy btc at an atm and short here, this always happens on bank holidays in europe/us
[2016-11-01 08:29:25] micmix : well next funding is 0.375
[2016-11-01 08:29:29] wurstgelee : closed longs...i dont trust this
[2016-11-01 08:29:52] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Which longs did you close?
[2016-11-01 08:29:54] wurstgelee : maybe wrong but noone every went broke ...etc..
[2016-11-01 08:30:04] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: z16 i opened before going to sleep last night
[2016-11-01 08:30:32] wurstgelee : 737->772
[2016-11-01 08:30:51] micmix : good trade, grats
[2016-11-01 08:31:02] wurstgelee : just-in-case-long ;)
[2016-11-01 08:33:02] wurstgelee : someone agrees wit me @ z16
[2016-11-01 08:33:06] wurstgelee : *with
[2016-11-01 08:34:01] micmix : okc couldn't hold 5k, look out ;-)
[2016-11-01 08:34:23] wurstgelee : waiting.... ;)
[2016-11-01 08:34:32] Boontjie : micmix: Bet on i
[2016-11-01 08:34:35] Boontjie : it
[2016-11-01 08:34:51] micmix : Boontjie: you don't want to know the size of my shorts ;-)
[2016-11-01 08:35:17] Boontjie : everyone has to be margincalled sometime :)
[2016-11-01 08:35:31] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: What are you expecting with ZEC? A drop? I'm not sure if I'm following.
[2016-11-01 08:35:38] micmix : liq price 10000000 ;-)
[2016-11-01 08:35:47] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: ofc. :)
[2016-11-01 08:35:48] Boontjie : nevermind
[2016-11-01 08:35:51] Boontjie : continue on
[2016-11-01 08:35:52] wurstgelee : 2 btc...this is insane ;)
[2016-11-01 08:35:58] l3f : why the fuck are they pumping it now
[2016-11-01 08:36:00] l3f : it's too early
[2016-11-01 08:36:07] l3f : these fuccbois
[2016-11-01 08:36:08] wurstgelee : but then again...almost no supply
[2016-11-01 08:36:10] wurstgelee : and crypto is crazy
[2016-11-01 08:36:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 08:36:25] l3f : +16% on the btc right now
[2016-11-01 08:36:26] thomaskikansha : zec pumping
[2016-11-01 08:36:32] l3f : waiting for the 800
[2016-11-01 08:38:40] micmix : premium going down
[2016-11-01 08:40:00] rx84 : what's with the fuck
[2016-11-01 08:40:14] rx84 : ok i geddit
[2016-11-01 08:40:21] l3f : why is the funding rate so ridiculous right now?
[2016-11-01 08:40:21] micmix : time to make some money
[2016-11-01 08:40:55] rx84 : ƒuçk
[2016-11-01 08:42:23] rx84 : This troll box is rated R for bloodshed, not language ;)
[2016-11-01 08:42:39] kumarz : BitMEX_Jack: I opted (in error) to not get the 'are u sure' style popup when I click buy/sell, and would like it back: instructions please?
[2016-11-01 08:43:26] dasdfasdf : kumarz: clcik your username. to pright
[2016-11-01 08:43:36] dasdfasdf : top right* then site preferences.
[2016-11-01 08:44:09] kumarz : dasdfasdf: many thanks chief, gotit :D
[2016-11-01 08:44:10] BitMEX_Jack : https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2016-11-01 08:44:20] dasdfasdf : This has actually happened to me also. May need to move that checkbox, to easy to accidentally cleck.
[2016-11-01 08:44:21] BitMEX_Jack : Yes, as what dasdfasdf said
[2016-11-01 08:44:23] kumarz : BitMEX_Jack: chyaz
[2016-11-01 08:45:08] kumarz : dasdfasdf: hehe yeah a bit risky with current price action ... that dialog box
[2016-11-01 08:45:16] kumarz : (not having it)
[2016-11-01 08:45:37] kumarz : kindof a necessary evil
[2016-11-01 08:49:13] l3f : Do you pay the funding rate on the total value of the trade or just the borrowed part?
[2016-11-01 08:49:52] micmix : total value of your position
[2016-11-01 08:50:04] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: What micmix said
[2016-11-01 08:50:19] l3f : 0.375% in the next 11 hours
[2016-11-01 08:50:23] l3f : whyyyyy
[2016-11-01 08:50:46] l3f : that's ridiclous
[2016-11-01 08:50:54] micmix : because people want to go long
[2016-11-01 08:51:21] micmix : if you close your position before you won't have to pay anything
[2016-11-01 08:51:47] l3f : So I could close and reopen it?
[2016-11-01 08:52:20] l3f : just between the 8 hour gaps
[2016-11-01 08:52:38] micmix : yes, you can close one minute before and re-open one minute after but the price will jump, so you will have to re-buy at higher price
[2016-11-01 08:54:55] l3f : in 11 hours means that it will change to taht rate in 11 hours?
[2016-11-01 08:55:45] l3f : ok well I think I'll hold for another 11 hours
[2016-11-01 08:55:51] BitMEX_Wally : It means that is the rate that will be charged in 11 hours
[2016-11-01 08:56:18] l3f : all good
[2016-11-01 08:56:19] BitMEX_Wally : The funding rate is set 8 hours in advance
[2016-11-01 08:57:15] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTBON8H
[2016-11-01 08:57:18] l3f : how come this chart is broken?
[2016-11-01 09:00:35] BitMEX_Wally : Looks ok for me. Try right clicking on the chart and selecting 'Reset Chart'
[2016-11-01 09:00:41] BitMEX_Wally : Or copy and pasting the URL into a new tab
[2016-11-01 09:00:58] BitMEX_Wally : If that doesn't work, please email a screenshot to support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-01 09:01:23] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: trading view says "invalid symbol"
[2016-11-01 09:01:48] BitMEX_Wally : Hmmm, at the top right does it say "12h"?
[2016-11-01 09:01:51] BitMEX_Wally : Try selecting "1 day"
[2016-11-01 09:01:57] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, top left
[2016-11-01 09:02:08] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: ah that's better
[2016-11-01 09:02:38] BitMEX_Wally : Weird, 6 hours works, but not 12 hours
[2016-11-01 09:02:58] BitMEX_Wally : (for .XBTBON)
[2016-11-01 09:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : Ok we'll fix this
[2016-11-01 09:12:47] wurstgelee : zec stable above 2 on a totally healthy volume of 3k zec :p
[2016-11-01 09:13:04] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: are bitmex staff allowed to trade on the exchange?
[2016-11-01 09:15:17] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: No. They do have to trade on testnet though to learn the product
[2016-11-01 09:16:03] wurstgelee : would be conflict of interest otherwise obviously :)
[2016-11-01 09:16:31] wurstgelee : same people who decide about rule changes for products cant possibly trade the very same product ;)
[2016-11-01 09:20:26] aethlios : trading destructs you from work, except if trading is your work. your mind is thinking the position you have and always want to check prices.
[2016-11-01 09:21:14] wurstgelee : aethlios: yes. last 2 days was trading @ work but not working q work tbh.
[2016-11-01 09:21:17] wurstgelee : well, mostly
[2016-11-01 09:21:39] wurstgelee : *fr and mon
[2016-11-01 09:21:52] lockhedge : aethlios: let the robots do the work (and the trading) ;)
[2016-11-01 09:23:48] aethlios : ROBO is an ETF I want to invest when stocks crash, robotics companies and bitcoin the best for future income. the apple of year 2035 will be a robotics company.
[2016-11-01 09:25:37] aethlios : http://www.etf.com/ROBO
[2016-11-01 09:27:46] wurstgelee : aethlios: interesting
[2016-11-01 09:28:04] wurstgelee : will check that out sometimes soon
[2016-11-01 09:29:16] aethlios : I will wait for stock market bear market, and try to buy in 3 years cheap, basically long term investment for dividends. Can't find any other etf now to invest in robotics.
[2016-11-01 09:30:43] wurstgelee : never heard of one before tbh
[2016-11-01 09:31:30] wurstgelee : i worked in engineering for some years, mostly robotics area
[2016-11-01 09:31:35] wurstgelee : but back in the late 90s....
[2016-11-01 09:31:41] wurstgelee : completely different thing then ;)
[2016-11-01 09:31:47] wurstgelee : still interested in that field tho
[2016-11-01 09:33:03] aethlios : many employees will lose their job because of robots, so they need to hedge buying robotic stocks cheap.
[2016-11-01 09:33:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3099 @ 723.84
[2016-11-01 09:33:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 180 @ 724.86
[2016-11-01 09:34:04] l3f : hahaha
[2016-11-01 09:37:52] lockhedge : aethlios: BOTZ might be an alternative, but seems to be more focused on AI than robotics https://www.globalxfunds.com/funds/botz/
[2016-11-01 09:39:28] aethlios : lockhedge: thanks.
[2016-11-01 09:42:51] wurstgelee : 2.65 per zec....
[2016-11-01 09:42:56] wurstgelee : madness
[2016-11-01 10:02:20] kradiav : yeap, reality round 2 will kick in eventually
[2016-11-01 10:16:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3500 @ 725.95
[2016-11-01 10:16:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 725.90
[2016-11-01 10:16:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9 @ 726.04
[2016-11-01 10:33:56] wurstgelee : i think i should leave work early today. my productivity just made new lows as i realized i haven't even opened my mailclient
[2016-11-01 10:34:17] wurstgelee : and i have been here 2.5h...
[2016-11-01 10:36:18] thomaskikansha : zec local high again
[2016-11-01 10:39:48] cess : Anyone I can ask a question?
[2016-11-01 10:40:16] cess : Hello
[2016-11-01 10:41:46] wurstgelee : go on
[2016-11-01 10:41:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 10:41:58] BitMEX_Wally : cess: How can I help?
[2016-11-01 10:41:58] cess : I have UPnL of 0.076 but my account balance is not reflecting
[2016-11-01 10:42:20] BitMEX_Wally : Unrealised PNL affects your Margin Balance: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-11-01 10:42:29] BitMEX_Wally : But it does not increase your wallet balance until it is realised
[2016-11-01 10:42:46] cess : So how can I realise that ?
[2016-11-01 10:43:08] BitMEX_Wally : By closing the position
[2016-11-01 10:43:19] cess : I have closed that position
[2016-11-01 10:43:36] BitMEX_Wally : Then unrealised PNL should be 0
[2016-11-01 10:43:39] BitMEX_Wally : Let me check your account
[2016-11-01 10:44:02] cess : It shows completed on my trading log
[2016-11-01 10:45:48] BitMEX_Wally : I see 0.0000756 XBT of realised PNL that has gone into your wallet balance
[2016-11-01 10:46:02] BitMEX_Wally : And 0.0000367 of unrealised PNL which is in your margin balance
[2016-11-01 10:46:37] BitMEX_Wally : You also have a pending deposit
[2016-11-01 10:48:23] cess : Yes I do
[2016-11-01 10:48:44] cess : I was testing the market and am still tasting the market
[2016-11-01 10:49:30] cess : My balance shows 0.001 non of the cumulative
[2016-11-01 10:50:23] BitMEX_Wally : cess: If you click on your name at the top right and then select currency display: micro-bitcoin
[2016-11-01 10:50:28] micmix : cess: maybe switch to mXBT if you don't see
[2016-11-01 10:50:32] BitMEX_Wally : You need more precision to see
[2016-11-01 10:51:50] muirtastic : How can the Mark price for ZEC on here be .70 when price is 2.20 on Polo and now it is .54 when price on polo is 2.7
[2016-11-01 10:52:06] BitMEX_Wally : muirtastic: The mark price is 0.70 because ZECZ16 is trading at 0.70
[2016-11-01 10:52:56] BitMEX_Wally : For the same reason that XBTZ16 is trading at 771 when Kaiko is at 725
[2016-11-01 10:53:12] micmix : traders expect ZEC to go down below 1. if you think it will not, buy @muirtastic
[2016-11-01 10:53:17] cess : Thank you I got it
[2016-11-01 10:53:59] muirtastic : The mark price is usually based on something beside the market price here, so I got confused there. But I get it now
[2016-11-01 10:55:00] muirtastic : micmix: yes I get that if you think the price is going up, then you buy and if you think the price is going down, you sell.
[2016-11-01 10:55:10] muirtastic : or short
[2016-11-01 10:55:14] BitMEX_Wally : muirtastic: Even when we reference an index price there is still a fair basis applied
[2016-11-01 10:56:11] muirtastic : I wasn't complaining, but just trying to understand, but makes sense and works for me
[2016-11-01 11:03:18] aethlios : btc very strong, 800 test for sure
[2016-11-01 11:11:18] micmix : okc still trying to hold 5k
[2016-11-01 11:12:16] micmix : lots of sell pressure
[2016-11-01 11:18:51] aethlios : most traders will sell 1200, previous ATH, go shrt at 2000, and be broke at 4000, so will lose all their capital and the bull market, don't sell if new ATH happens, it means the secular bull market continues
[2016-11-01 11:20:38] Boontjie : micmix: worried about that short :)