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[2016-11-01 04:08:57] chromaticcr1 : ADL那个跟你挂单的没关系...
[2016-11-01 04:09:43] uncleyao : 你干脆说是aoc得了。
[2016-11-01 04:09:47] BitMEX_Jinming : uncleyao: 减仓是根据排位来的，这说明其它很多用户的盈利没有到达78%
[2016-11-01 04:10:07] chromaticcr1 : ADL类似ok那边的分摊机制，不过不是平均分摊而是找着杠杆大盈利多的用家...
[2016-11-01 04:10:35] uncleyao : 那其他用户没意见？
[2016-11-01 04:12:10] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: how are you guys planning on calculating the discount/premium on zec when you begin marking it?
[2016-11-01 04:12:35] BitMEX_Jinming : uncleyao: 我们的减仓顺序是根据 `盈利百分比 * 有效杠杆` 计算的，每个人都一样。
[2016-11-01 04:12:50] chromaticcr1 : 期货就是零和游戏啊.. 要是给我选分摊还是ADL，ADL起码能自行补仓而且不用等交割才能提现。
[2016-11-01 04:13:42] uncleyao : 没有自动补仓啊。
[2016-11-01 04:14:08] chromaticcr1 : *自行补仓*
[2016-11-01 04:14:28] uncleyao : 好吧 谁能24小时盯着
[2016-11-01 04:14:30] BitMEX_Jinming : uncleyao: 对，目前没有，但是我们今后会增加这个功能
[2016-11-01 04:15:21] uncleyao : 是啊被adl至少要自动补仓才行啊。
[2016-11-01 04:15:25] aethlios : polo eth buy orders less than polo xmr
[2016-11-01 04:15:37] DangerandPlay : yingwen
[2016-11-01 04:15:45] BitMEX_Arthur : QuantFocus: The prem/disc will be implied from where the future is trading
[2016-11-01 04:15:47] chromaticcr1 : DangerandPlay: lol c'mon
[2016-11-01 04:15:52] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: Right now it is looking like a -450% annualised basis
[2016-11-01 04:16:01] DangerandPlay : :D
[2016-11-01 04:16:26] DangerandPlay : anyone else in china right now?
[2016-11-01 04:16:28] DangerandPlay : expat
[2016-11-01 04:16:53] BitMEX_Wally : DangerandPlay: Which city?
[2016-11-01 04:17:02] DangerandPlay : beijing
[2016-11-01 04:17:14] DangerandPlay : it's f*cking cold today
[2016-11-01 04:17:16] DangerandPlay : jesus christ
[2016-11-01 04:17:17] thomaskikansha : zec local high
[2016-11-01 04:17:25] uncleyao : 有没有别的兄弟被强制平仓的啊？
[2016-11-01 04:17:32] uncleyao : 还是我是个例？
[2016-11-01 04:17:44] BitMEX_Wally : DangerandPlay: Arthur and I might be in Beijing next week
[2016-11-01 04:18:14] DangerandPlay : oh yea? let's grab a beer. i have a british friend running a bitcoin remittance company here.
[2016-11-01 04:18:36] BitMEX_Wally : DangerandPlay: Great, we'll email you when we know our plans
[2016-11-01 04:18:46] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: ZEC我在30号跟28号都被ADL了
[2016-11-01 04:19:02] DangerandPlay : got my address thru here, right? can add me on wechat too emoo1984
[2016-11-01 04:19:05] uncleyao : 你不会是托吧？
[2016-11-01 04:19:07] chromaticcr1 : 昨晚的我还是做空啊 *哭哭* ....
[2016-11-01 04:19:19] coinrun : ZEC looks very bullish
[2016-11-01 04:19:20] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 那你爆仓了么？
[2016-11-01 04:19:24] coinrun : on polo
[2016-11-01 04:19:25] CaptainDean : Zec pump on polo
[2016-11-01 04:19:29] chromaticcr1 : 没
[2016-11-01 04:19:48] uncleyao : 做空不爆仓？
[2016-11-01 04:19:48] thomaskikansha : coinrun: maybe another wave
[2016-11-01 04:19:51] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Arthur, @BitMEX_Wally , can you guys clarify? For example, you have a 33% premium embedded in the xbtz contract, IIRC
[2016-11-01 04:20:03] QuantFocus : maybe i need to re-read where that comes from
[2016-11-01 04:20:03] uncleyao : 昨晚最高到0.9了啊。
[2016-11-01 04:20:13] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 爆啊，到点就爆啊，我储备比较多
[2016-11-01 04:20:18] QuantFocus : but it's not based on where it trades, right?
[2016-11-01 04:20:30] chromaticcr1 : 这要东西你不怕我也怕啊
[2016-11-01 04:20:39] chromaticcr1 : 妖东西*
[2016-11-01 04:20:59] BitMEX_Wally : For XBTZ16 that fair basis comes from where it is trading, measured using the order book
[2016-11-01 04:21:12] uncleyao : 昨晚明显要涨了，我买进想得个翻两三倍的。
[2016-11-01 04:21:14] thomaskikansha : polo asks down to <200ZEC
[2016-11-01 04:21:30] uncleyao : 才赚一点wtf。
[2016-11-01 04:21:44] ss : yun
[2016-11-01 04:21:52] ss : 昨晚想了半天 还是没入仓
[2016-11-01 04:21:54] uncleyao : 早知道多买点现货还好
[2016-11-01 04:22:02] ss : 果然畏惧 时候 才是 最安全的
[2016-11-01 04:22:03] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: ok. i guess it just seems counterintuitive to me. i thought it traded in that range because of the fair basis marking, not vice-versa
[2016-11-01 04:22:14] uncleyao : 现货都翻个4倍多。
[2016-11-01 04:22:27] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 远期期货与现货的关联性比较低，我做长线的，所以我来这边
[2016-11-01 04:22:36] uncleyao : 这网站太鸡肋
[2016-11-01 04:22:55] uncleyao : 盈利就给你平了。
[2016-11-01 04:23:08] ss : 是的
[2016-11-01 04:23:08] ss : 太差劲了
[2016-11-01 04:23:18] ss : 居然会帮你自动平仓
[2016-11-01 04:23:30] BitMEX_Wally : The mark price is used for unrealised PNL and triggering liquidations, but it does not affect the market value of the contract which is still supply and demand
[2016-11-01 04:23:32] uncleyao : ss 你也被平了？
[2016-11-01 04:23:38] ss : 嗯 前几天
[2016-11-01 04:23:45] chromaticcr1 : 空军都被强平都没钱赔给你了 -_-
[2016-11-01 04:23:48] BitMEX_Jinming : uncleyao: 是因为空仓的杠杆高，所以爆仓价格低，导致自动平仓。
[2016-11-01 04:23:52] ss : 买的价位非常好 结果2元就把我平掉了
[2016-11-01 04:23:55] uncleyao : 蛋疼不？
[2016-11-01 04:24:00] ss : 要知道 最高10元
[2016-11-01 04:24:11] uncleyao : 是吧
[2016-11-01 04:24:23] uncleyao : 你买的什么？2元？
[2016-11-01 04:24:30] ss : 前几天的事了
[2016-11-01 04:24:33] chromaticcr1 : 2B 啊
[2016-11-01 04:24:34] ss : 后来就撤资了
[2016-11-01 04:24:50] ss : 不自动平仓 我至少赚10倍
[2016-11-01 04:25:07] ss : 太坑了 不知道是不是规则问题
[2016-11-01 04:25:08] uncleyao : 是吧
[2016-11-01 04:25:33] uncleyao : 我就说鸡肋吧，玩期货不就是为了博这10倍的
[2016-11-01 04:26:27] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: so if there was enough supply driving the price closer to spot, the mark price would adjust to it?
[2016-11-01 04:26:28] uncleyao : 这样把你盈利限定，那输和赢一样多。那绝对是亏钱的。
[2016-11-01 04:26:30] ss : 我继续看好bitcoin 和zec
[2016-11-01 04:26:45] ss : 是啊
[2016-11-01 04:26:49] ss : 潜规则
[2016-11-01 04:27:03] coinrun : Most miners break even is 5.5BTC on ZEC
[2016-11-01 04:27:14] uncleyao : 错就爆，赢就最多翻倍。那从概率来送就是给网站送钱了。
[2016-11-01 04:27:23] chromaticcr1 : 多空盈利的限制都是对家钱包的钱
[2016-11-01 04:28:10] uncleyao : 翻几倍才能玩。要不然只能输。
[2016-11-01 04:28:28] uncleyao : 我觉得大家都是聪明人 应该能想明白
[2016-11-01 04:28:34] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: Yes
[2016-11-01 04:28:58] aethlios : zcash what a scam
[2016-11-01 04:29:10] ss : 还有什么期货网站推荐吗
[2016-11-01 04:29:25] BitMEX_Wally : Because you can arbitrage between spot and futures ('cash and carry arbitrage') the difference, called basis, is considered an interest rate
[2016-11-01 04:30:16] BitMEX_Wally : The XBTZ16 fair basis rate is 39% (annualised) which is roughly what you pay to borrow USD to go long on Bitfinex
[2016-11-01 04:30:31] BitMEX_Wally : And it is similar to the OKC basis on their December future
[2016-11-01 04:30:35] uncleyao : ok什么的没有zec玩
[2016-11-01 04:30:52] chromaticcr1 : 做空的就这家，没了
[2016-11-01 04:31:08] chromaticcr1 : 做空ZEC的*
[2016-11-01 04:31:22] uncleyao : 做空想盈利难。
[2016-11-01 04:31:33] uncleyao : 短期波动还会很大
[2016-11-01 04:32:00] uncleyao : 等你到12月再做空，那时候又没有盈利了。
[2016-11-01 04:32:08] chromaticcr1 : ... 总盈利 19B 大部分都是做空赚的
[2016-11-01 04:32:35] uncleyao : 不是你厉害，是你赶上那波了。
[2016-11-01 04:33:16] ss : 做空太危险了
[2016-11-01 04:33:58] uncleyao : 谁都知道要跌，但时间点你不可能能知道。
[2016-11-01 04:35:24] billyboy402 : any chance we can have google translate work for the troll box
[2016-11-01 04:35:59] chromaticcr1 : billyboy402: Prefer have a language tabbed trollbox
[2016-11-01 04:36:16] uncleyao : ss: 估计还会拉个几波，要不然先挖坑套利不了。
[2016-11-01 04:36:43] uncleyao : 矿
[2016-11-01 04:37:02] chromaticcr1 : uncleyao: 供应几何级数上升，越来越难拉了
[2016-11-01 04:37:02] ss : 你觉得挖矿性价比怎么样
[2016-11-01 04:37:35] uncleyao : 现在肯定有赚啊
[2016-11-01 04:37:44] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: thanks. need to read up on it more i guess...that and the MM tutorial you guys released
[2016-11-01 04:37:49] uncleyao : 但是投资矿机是一大笔钱
[2016-11-01 04:38:26] uncleyao : 等你买好矿机 矿机钱还没收回一半 可能就跌了。
[2016-11-01 04:39:00] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: i'm loosely familiar with basis from past experience, but definitely not an expert.
[2016-11-01 04:39:53] QuantFocus : i suppose i just had a misconception about the premium on quarterlies being driven by mark, and not mark being driven by supply/demand
[2016-11-01 04:41:13] BitMEX_Wally : More information about how we set the fair basis here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Futures-Contracts
[2016-11-01 04:42:36] HjP : BitMEX_Wally, QuantFocus, where do I find this MM tutorial?
[2016-11-01 04:43:05] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: on an unrelated note, do you think you guys would ever have an interest in setting up an ICO market?
[2016-11-01 04:43:51] QuantFocus : specifically for a project I'm developing, but possibly for something more beneficial to the exchange longer term?
[2016-11-01 04:44:22] BitMEX_Wally : QuantFocus: We're open to discussions, email us and we can discuss: support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-01 04:44:55] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: sounds great. appreciate it!
[2016-11-01 04:45:27] QuantFocus : we're finalizing our presentation now, but i can reach out with some introductory details soon
[2016-11-01 04:45:33] HostFat : I hope that you will remove the limit from the zcash market, and all the others
[2016-11-01 04:45:43] BitMEX_Wally : HjP: https://blog.bitmex.com/tag/market-making/
[2016-11-01 04:45:47] HostFat : even the bitcoin market
[2016-11-01 04:45:50] HjP : thanks
[2016-11-01 04:46:34] HostFat : at the time of the ETF, if it will happen, the limit should be already eliminated
[2016-11-01 04:46:37] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: i'm headed out for a bit though. take care, and ttys.
[2016-11-01 04:47:22] BitMEX_Wally : There has to be a maxPrice from a technical perspective, but we can probably raise it from 10 XBT to 1000 XBT
[2016-11-01 04:48:00] BitMEX_Wally : We will announce the new maxPrice when we announce the new mark price method
[2016-11-01 04:48:30] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Wally: haven't tried yet, but can you trade fractional units of zec?
[2016-11-01 04:48:45] BitMEX_Wally : No, we only support whole contracts
[2016-11-01 04:49:02] BitMEX_Wally : As the market settles down we will probably increase the leverage though
[2016-11-01 04:49:03] QuantFocus : so yea, shorting at the top would be difficult at 1000btc
[2016-11-01 04:49:35] QuantFocus : cool
[2016-11-01 04:50:07] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: are we days before? you have to give us 24 or 48 hours before implementing (zec mark to index)
[2016-11-01 04:51:03] aethlios : should consider asks on polo, now only 190 coins, I think we need 1000 to be sure
[2016-11-01 04:51:06] BitMEX_Wally : aethlios: Yes we will give at least 24 hours notice
[2016-11-01 04:51:28] aethlios : I mean now only 200 so manipulation strong yet
[2016-11-01 04:51:57] BitMEX_Wally : When we switch the mark method from last price to fair price it will be a non event, the actual mark price will not change because there is always a fair basis applied. I do not know why everyone is so interested in it
[2016-11-01 04:52:39] chromaticcr1 : except shorts will be less likely to subject to manipulation since you will have to manipulate in spot with greater depth
[2016-11-01 04:52:46] chromaticcr1 : which is a good thing!
[2016-11-01 04:53:05] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: the problem is that cap 10 is a safety net, if polo pumps to 20 because only 200 asks, then many can go broke here.
[2016-11-01 04:55:13] chromaticcr1 : it would cost 650BTC to manipulate to 10BTC in polo
[2016-11-01 04:56:47] arbitrage001 : aethlios: dont trade if you are not willing to take the risk
[2016-11-01 04:56:59] arbitrage001 : no one forcing anyone to buy or sell
[2016-11-01 04:57:05] chromaticcr1 : would def. cost less here, and lets not forget the basis btw
[2016-11-01 04:57:57] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: reason why people should not short here
[2016-11-01 04:58:29] arbitrage001 : only take 1 whale and remove price cap to screw all the short
[2016-11-01 04:59:50] aethlios : supply will add quickly now for zec
[2016-11-01 04:59:54] chromaticcr1 : in the case of ADL, it won't worth it for the whales, but for revenge trades..... well... whales could lose their mind too
[2016-11-01 05:00:27] arbitrage001 : aethlios: and you think more supply means price will go down?
[2016-11-01 05:00:54] aethlios : arbitrage001: yes, this is already happening 3000 to 0.65
[2016-11-01 05:03:04] aethlios : inflate supplt, deflate price
[2016-11-01 05:03:05] arbitrage001 : aethlios: btc supply went up over the years, why is the price going up?
[2016-11-01 05:03:28] arbitrage001 : from 0.04 in 2008, to 700 now?
[2016-11-01 05:04:05] arbitrage001 : maybe shorting btc is safer?
[2016-11-01 05:04:22] aethlios : think zec 21 mill, btc less than 21 mill. (many lost) so how is possible in the long run zec above 1??? since btc supply less than zec??
[2016-11-01 05:04:52] chromaticcr1 : it is just part of the equation, there are too many variable so place your bets.
[2016-11-01 05:13:10] aethlios : supply x5 in 6 days
[2016-11-01 05:13:43] aethlios : supply x20 in 16 days
[2016-11-01 05:14:50] chromaticcr1 : generalize it circulation = 0.0003125*(block)^2 || Block<20k. If you have nice cards in your hand, why not just go all in?
[2016-11-01 05:15:45] aethlios : i am 15 short, never go all in, i am not gambling. plan to keep to expiration.
[2016-11-01 05:16:42] aethlios : those rallies will happen again but from lowwer prices, when 0.3 they will pump to 1. always keep hope alive.
[2016-11-01 05:16:49] arbitrage001 : you have enough collateral here for keep your short should it go to 10btc?
[2016-11-01 05:17:25] aethlios : liq. price 10.23, just want 1 week to pass to be safe
[2016-11-01 05:17:53] aethlios : when oversold i will close and re open when the next pump happens
[2016-11-01 05:18:00] arbitrage001 : risking 150 btc to make 9 btc at most
[2016-11-01 05:18:08] arbitrage001 : are you sure this is wise?
[2016-11-01 05:19:19] aethlios : arbitrage001: I shorted from 2.5, closed 0.3 and re-shorted 0.585, I will close again, so this position won't stay always open
[2016-11-01 05:19:45] aethlios : close short when oversold, re open short to the pump
[2016-11-01 05:20:04] aethlios : trend is your friend because of supply.
[2016-11-01 05:20:41] chromaticcr1 : and the structure of the contract is against you, coz infinity upside. Take a balance
[2016-11-01 05:21:49] aethlios : I don't feel comfortable with so margin in 1 position but it is 5 days more to be safer
[2016-11-01 05:31:54] drag : hello
[2016-11-01 05:40:34] uncleyao : chromaticcr1: 感觉你真的是托，在这当GM
[2016-11-01 05:41:22] chromaticcr1 : @uncleyao -_- ... GM都是 BitMEX_开头的
[2016-11-01 05:41:44] uncleyao : 托
[2016-11-01 05:42:01] chromaticcr1 : -_-
[2016-11-01 05:43:09] uncleyao : 再玩一波辣条。
[2016-11-01 05:43:21] chromaticcr1 : 那么sleger 和 wurstgelee 都应该是托了，他俩都比我活跃，我就这边的常客
[2016-11-01 05:43:23] uncleyao : 就提b走人
[2016-11-01 05:43:58] chromaticcr1 : 拉条这边流动性一般...
[2016-11-01 05:44:41] uncleyao : 好像是诶。。。
[2016-11-01 05:45:02] uncleyao : 要是涨上去没人买就白瞎了。
[2016-11-01 06:04:18] ss : bitmex 感觉没什么流动性啊
[2016-11-01 06:04:24] ss : 这个最坑了
[2016-11-01 06:13:20] muirtastic : wow the ZEC price is all over the place on here...from .83 to .42 and the price on Polo really hasn't changed that much..maybe 10%
[2016-11-01 06:14:13] blacktuesday : there was a bunch of sells just now
[2016-11-01 06:14:36] blacktuesday : someone pushin it down
[2016-11-01 06:20:23] CaptainDean : BTC smell 720
[2016-11-01 06:21:18] ss : zec maybe sold to o.3
[2016-11-01 06:21:28] CaptainDean : yeah that is strange
[2016-11-01 06:21:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 2 @ 756.78 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-01 06:21:42] CaptainDean : somone wants to short it hard
[2016-11-01 06:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 19500 @ 711.58
[2016-11-01 06:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 40000 @ 711.81 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-01 06:22:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 850 @ 711.71
[2016-11-01 06:26:53] imabeast : just fyi https://twitter.com/ThisIsNuse/status/792934076621713408
[2016-11-01 06:29:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.415781
[2016-11-01 06:33:27] chromaticcr1 : 爆仓爆起来
[2016-11-01 06:35:39] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzniwoZPHOs
[2016-11-01 06:35:52] wurstgelee : good morning shitcoin slingers
[2016-11-01 06:36:52] CaptainDean : good coffee !
[2016-11-01 06:38:08] wurstgelee : yep. coffee. thats whats happening right now. :)
[2016-11-01 06:38:25] wurstgelee : also btc. and zec stil 2.2 btc
[2016-11-01 06:38:29] DangerandPlay : should i maintain my ETH short position a little longer? :D
[2016-11-01 06:38:35] CaptainDean : btc showing some great movement
[2016-11-01 06:38:37] wurstgelee : what a time to be a bitmex gambler
[2016-11-01 06:38:40] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 06:38:52] wurstgelee : CaptainDean: 5k
[2016-11-01 06:38:59] wurstgelee : soon
[2016-11-01 06:39:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 06:39:08] imabeast : wurst what time zone are you in?
[2016-11-01 06:39:09] imabeast : haha
[2016-11-01 06:39:21] wurstgelee : berlin tz
[2016-11-01 06:39:30] wurstgelee : imabeast: u?
[2016-11-01 06:39:42] imabeast : ah nice! what time is it htere?
[2016-11-01 06:39:43] imabeast : im pst
[2016-11-01 06:39:47] wurstgelee : 7:40 am here
[2016-11-01 06:47:09] CapitalGains : Back for more @wurtsgelee ?
[2016-11-01 06:47:17] CapitalGains : excuse the typo
[2016-11-01 06:47:43] aethlios : zcash 2 month supply 300,000 founders receive 60,000 coins, with average price of 0,2 btc they profit already 8,5 million usd. already rich in 2 months.
[2016-11-01 06:49:23] imabeast : u long @wurstgelee >
[2016-11-01 06:49:28] imabeast : in zec
[2016-11-01 06:49:45] CapitalGains : I'm loving the order book depth on ZEC - 40 deep till 0.3 (0.1 down), 40 deep till 0.99 (0.59 up if you bought at 0.4).
[2016-11-01 06:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 23 @ 0.01494
[2016-11-01 06:51:49] imabeast : short etherium
[2016-11-01 06:51:56] imabeast : https://twitter.com/ethereumproject/status/793343201465733121
[2016-11-01 06:52:08] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: lol. :) ill check in ~2 h if and what i do
[2016-11-01 06:52:11] wurstgelee : 2early
[2016-11-01 06:52:13] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 06:52:25] imabeast : wurstgelee: etherium going in the dumps
[2016-11-01 06:53:02] wurstgelee : yep. dangerous to either short or long there tho imo
[2016-11-01 06:53:14] wurstgelee : sticking to btc and zec for a while i guess
[2016-11-01 06:53:16] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-11-01 06:54:03] wurstgelee : probably has more downside
[2016-11-01 06:54:05] wurstgelee : eth
[2016-11-01 06:54:16] imabeast : yep :D
[2016-11-01 06:54:26] wurstgelee : hashes migrating to zcash, same as attention...btc pumping
[2016-11-01 06:54:40] imabeast : u long in zec?
[2016-11-01 06:54:50] wurstgelee : 2 sind a few mins
[2016-11-01 06:54:56] wurstgelee : some orders set
[2016-11-01 06:55:01] wurstgelee : *since
[2016-11-01 06:55:03] wurstgelee : 2 conts
[2016-11-01 06:55:46] wurstgelee : i would be willing to buy a few dozens.
[2016-11-01 06:56:08] wurstgelee : youre welcome @ shorters
[2016-11-01 06:56:11] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-01 06:56:55] wurstgelee : off to work. bbl
[2016-11-01 06:57:01] CaptainDean : later
[2016-11-01 06:57:03] imabeast : later
[2016-11-01 06:57:14] CaptainDean : i should be going to bed .. 3 am her e:P
[2016-11-01 06:57:26] CaptainDean : i was waiting Zec to 0.3
[2016-11-01 06:57:30] CaptainDean : missing the boat again
[2016-11-01 06:57:30] imabeast : tea,[ mp s;ee[
[2016-11-01 06:57:38] imabeast : team no sleep *
[2016-11-01 06:57:38] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-01 06:57:44] CaptainDean : :P
[2016-11-01 07:00:17] CaptainDean : this ETH short is interresting
[2016-11-01 07:00:26] CaptainDean : not sure if the issue will create some panic or not
[2016-11-01 07:01:40] CapitalGains : I really don't want to see ETH fail... I'm long on DGD
[2016-11-01 07:02:07] CaptainDean : i'm ming ETH, i don't want it to crash either ... but you know :P
[2016-11-01 07:02:37] CapitalGains : I think, at least, the devs will fight to keep it alive
[2016-11-01 07:02:48] CapitalGains : Even if the market cap implodes
[2016-11-01 07:10:53] DangerandPlay : people on other forums talking of a bottom at 0.01100 or thereabouts for ETH within next week or two :-o
[2016-11-01 07:12:10] CaptainDean : that's quite alarmist ...
[2016-11-01 07:12:26] CaptainDean : makes no sens to me
[2016-11-01 07:13:10] DangerandPlay : CaptainDean: what do you think will happen?
[2016-11-01 07:13:30] CaptainDean : DangerandPlay: i don't the coin can falls -1500 in two weeks
[2016-11-01 07:13:33] CaptainDean : -1500%
[2016-11-01 07:13:47] CaptainDean : unless a major flaw is found
[2016-11-01 07:13:57] CaptainDean : which is not the case at the moment
[2016-11-01 07:15:18] DangerandPlay : let's hope and pray
[2016-11-01 07:22:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20000 @ 715.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-01 07:24:16] blacktuesday : rektening
[2016-11-01 07:24:33] blacktuesday : moon
[2016-11-01 07:24:52] blacktuesday : finex 725 lol
[2016-11-01 07:24:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 717.62
[2016-11-01 07:25:00] imabeast : holy btc
[2016-11-01 07:25:45] chromaticcr1 : wow
[2016-11-01 07:25:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4700 @ 718.92
[2016-11-01 07:27:11] blacktuesday : fomo
[2016-11-01 07:27:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01490
[2016-11-01 07:28:49] blacktuesday : 750?
[2016-11-01 07:29:03] imabeast : we shall see
[2016-11-01 07:29:04] blacktuesday : we can do it
[2016-11-01 07:29:25] imabeast : or double top
[2016-11-01 07:29:51] blacktuesday : its got legs
[2016-11-01 07:29:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 719.84
[2016-11-01 07:30:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2 @ 720.67 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-01 07:30:13] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-11-01 07:30:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 721.04
[2016-11-01 07:31:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 25000 @ 721.41 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-11-01 07:31:22] blacktuesday : boom
[2016-11-01 07:31:36] imabeast : eth about to get rekt
[2016-11-01 07:32:54] wurstgelee : its happening, isnt it?
[2016-11-01 07:32:57] wurstgelee : 5k
[2016-11-01 07:32:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 07:33:02] CaptainDean : we did it
[2016-11-01 07:33:09] wurstgelee : Oh lol
[2016-11-01 07:33:10] wurstgelee : Yep
[2016-11-01 07:33:13] CaptainDean : 5010
[2016-11-01 07:33:17] CaptainDean : huobi
[2016-11-01 07:34:50] wurstgelee : looks like 680 z16 guy might come out on top after all
[2016-11-01 07:35:56] wurstgelee : i dont know or see shit atm. on mobile right now
[2016-11-01 07:36:03] wurstgelee : wildly guessing
[2016-11-01 07:38:56] CaptainDean : momentum say buy but i'm not sure :P
[2016-11-01 07:41:36] y1uy : What's going o. With Btc?
[2016-11-01 07:41:40] 200822893@qq.com : 客服在吗？
[2016-11-01 07:41:58] chromaticcr1 : @BitMEX_Jinming
[2016-11-01 07:42:14] 200822893@qq.com : 想提现为何老提示，地址无效？
[2016-11-01 07:42:56] 200822893@qq.com : 我想提现到OK比特币
[2016-11-01 07:43:14] 200822893@qq.com : 地址明明是OK那边地址
[2016-11-01 07:43:16] CaptainDean : eth showing good support even with the BTC spike
[2016-11-01 07:44:40] MrRGnome : I'm looking for that eth bottom, should be a nice bounce once its in
[2016-11-01 07:45:13] CaptainDean : MrRGnome: what bottom do you expect ?
[2016-11-01 07:45:24] CaptainDean : MrRGnome: 0.013x ?
[2016-11-01 07:45:42] BitMEX_Jack : 200822893@qq.com: 你好，我是客服 Jack
[2016-11-01 07:46:00] MrRGnome : Yeah I have orders in that range. Not expecting anything specific just orders all the way down to 0.01
[2016-11-01 07:46:23] MrRGnome : wherever it decides to turn around I'll start selling
[2016-11-01 07:47:14] CaptainDean : I wish I had all the trading skills and exp you guys have ;-)
[2016-11-01 07:47:21] CaptainDean : BTC back up
[2016-11-01 07:47:43] aethlios : above 800 dec. 30 soon
[2016-11-01 07:47:49] BitMEX_Jack : 200822893@qq.com: 你可以截个图，然后qq发给我看看吗？
[2016-11-01 07:48:22] BitMEX_Jack : 200822893@qq.com: 剛加了你qq
[2016-11-01 07:51:41] MrRGnome : I really hope BitMex's asia region outreach brings us significantly more volume. That's all these instruments need, volume
[2016-11-01 07:52:51] wurstgelee : Zec dipping below 2 btc
[2016-11-01 07:53:04] CaptainDean : yep
[2016-11-01 07:53:04] wurstgelee : haha, that sounds funny
[2016-11-01 07:53:10] wurstgelee : Dipping below 2...
[2016-11-01 07:53:23] aethlios : stupid polo excahnge a bullish btc with scam zec to 1:2
[2016-11-01 07:53:41] wurstgelee : aethlios: dont hate it. use it. :)
[2016-11-01 07:54:09] aethlios : wurstgelee: you can't fight stupid, he can margin call you.
[2016-11-01 07:54:17] wurstgelee : Exactly
[2016-11-01 07:54:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 07:55:08] wurstgelee : polo herd instinct is so predictable these days. ever since it made 10k vol for alts a regular thing
[2016-11-01 07:55:49] CaptainDean : guessing BTC will explode soon if we can reach 5000 agaim
[2016-11-01 07:55:51] wurstgelee : *for those high vol alts ofc
[2016-11-01 07:56:25] wurstgelee : Retrace, margin call late longs, new highs, margin call shorts?
[2016-11-01 07:56:26] aethlios : above 800 (previous top) the road is open for 1175 previous ATH
[2016-11-01 07:56:36] wurstgelee : 5k seems great for that play
[2016-11-01 07:56:38] micmix : btw, xbtz16 here is still cheaper than okc quarterly
[2016-11-01 07:56:47] wurstgelee : Psychological barrier etc
[2016-11-01 07:58:43] aethlios : alts will be the useful idiot for btc, test new tech for btc to adopt later and transfer btc from fish to whales.
[2016-11-01 07:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 9 @ 0.01474
[2016-11-01 07:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01473
[2016-11-01 07:59:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.01473
[2016-11-01 07:59:51] CapitalGains : Interesting perspective @aethlios
[2016-11-01 07:59:51] aethlios : micmix: here is more expensive if you subtract the index on each contract
[2016-11-01 08:00:25] micmix : yeah, premium is a bit higher %
[2016-11-01 08:00:42] chromaticcr1 : 150k buywall , impressed
[2016-11-01 08:01:14] CaptainDean : it's not me :P
[2016-11-01 08:01:56] messiaen8844 : premium is back
[2016-11-01 08:02:13] wurstgelee : zec too
[2016-11-01 08:02:20] wurstgelee : 2btc.
[2016-11-01 08:02:57] wurstgelee : i still cant believe ppl are paying 2btc ...
[2016-11-01 08:03:35] blacktuesday : preparing rocket stage 2 seperation...
[2016-11-01 08:06:56] CaptainDean : 5000
[2016-11-01 08:07:47] blacktuesday : hhere we go
[2016-11-01 08:08:05] l3f : le btc pump game
[2016-11-01 08:08:16] l3f : tfw long btc
[2016-11-01 08:08:26] l3f : feels fucking good
[2016-11-01 08:09:00] dasdfasdf : 5000 will it break
[2016-11-01 08:09:54] CaptainDean : huobi is at 5000
[2016-11-01 08:11:19] CaptainDean : kind of double top tho now
[2016-11-01 08:12:43] CaptainDean : meeting 6 hours
[2016-11-01 08:12:44] CaptainDean : bed timne
[2016-11-01 08:12:47] CaptainDean : night guys
[2016-11-01 08:12:59] CaptainDean : - say the guy with no position :P
[2016-11-01 08:14:36] micmix : $9 premium, not bad
[2016-11-01 08:19:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 722.58
[2016-11-01 08:19:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 64541 @ 722.58 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-11-01 08:20:40] augusto2012 : poor bastard
[2016-11-01 08:22:10] CapitalGains : I wouldn't touch a BTC position right now
[2016-11-01 08:23:54] imabeast : i would touch an eth short tho
[2016-11-01 08:23:56] imabeast : lol
[2016-11-01 08:24:27] lockhedge : we didn't have >10$ premium on XBTUSD for a while
[2016-11-01 08:25:33] micmix : yeah, I need to allow for bigger short at such high premium
[2016-11-01 08:25:59] lockhedge : me too :)
[2016-11-01 08:28:01] wurstgelee : this is what we trained for
[2016-11-01 08:28:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 08:28:25] lockhedge : it will soon make sense to buy btc at an atm and short here, this always happens on bank holidays in europe/us
[2016-11-01 08:29:25] micmix : well next funding is 0.375
[2016-11-01 08:29:29] wurstgelee : closed longs...i dont trust this
[2016-11-01 08:29:52] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Which longs did you close?
[2016-11-01 08:29:54] wurstgelee : maybe wrong but noone every went broke ...etc..
[2016-11-01 08:30:04] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: z16 i opened before going to sleep last night
[2016-11-01 08:30:32] wurstgelee : 737->772
[2016-11-01 08:30:51] micmix : good trade, grats
[2016-11-01 08:31:02] wurstgelee : just-in-case-long ;)
[2016-11-01 08:33:02] wurstgelee : someone agrees wit me @ z16
[2016-11-01 08:33:06] wurstgelee : *with
[2016-11-01 08:34:01] micmix : okc couldn't hold 5k, look out ;-)
[2016-11-01 08:34:23] wurstgelee : waiting.... ;)
[2016-11-01 08:34:32] Boontjie : micmix: Bet on i
[2016-11-01 08:34:35] Boontjie : it
[2016-11-01 08:34:51] micmix : Boontjie: you don't want to know the size of my shorts ;-)
[2016-11-01 08:35:17] Boontjie : everyone has to be margincalled sometime :)
[2016-11-01 08:35:31] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: What are you expecting with ZEC? A drop? I'm not sure if I'm following.
[2016-11-01 08:35:38] micmix : liq price 10000000 ;-)
[2016-11-01 08:35:47] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: ofc. :)
[2016-11-01 08:35:48] Boontjie : nevermind
[2016-11-01 08:35:51] Boontjie : continue on
[2016-11-01 08:35:52] wurstgelee : 2 btc...this is insane ;)
[2016-11-01 08:35:58] l3f : why the fuck are they pumping it now
[2016-11-01 08:36:00] l3f : it's too early
[2016-11-01 08:36:07] l3f : these fuccbois
[2016-11-01 08:36:08] wurstgelee : but then again...almost no supply
[2016-11-01 08:36:10] wurstgelee : and crypto is crazy
[2016-11-01 08:36:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 08:36:25] l3f : +16% on the btc right now
[2016-11-01 08:36:26] thomaskikansha : zec pumping
[2016-11-01 08:36:32] l3f : waiting for the 800
[2016-11-01 08:38:40] micmix : premium going down
[2016-11-01 08:40:00] rx84 : what's with the fuck
[2016-11-01 08:40:14] rx84 : ok i geddit
[2016-11-01 08:40:21] l3f : why is the funding rate so ridiculous right now?
[2016-11-01 08:40:21] micmix : time to make some money
[2016-11-01 08:40:55] rx84 : ƒuçk
[2016-11-01 08:42:23] rx84 : This troll box is rated R for bloodshed, not language ;)
[2016-11-01 08:42:39] kumarz : BitMEX_Jack: I opted (in error) to not get the 'are u sure' style popup when I click buy/sell, and would like it back: instructions please?
[2016-11-01 08:43:26] dasdfasdf : kumarz: clcik your username. to pright
[2016-11-01 08:43:36] dasdfasdf : top right* then site preferences.
[2016-11-01 08:44:09] kumarz : dasdfasdf: many thanks chief, gotit :D
[2016-11-01 08:44:10] BitMEX_Jack : https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2016-11-01 08:44:20] dasdfasdf : This has actually happened to me also. May need to move that checkbox, to easy to accidentally cleck.
[2016-11-01 08:44:21] BitMEX_Jack : Yes, as what dasdfasdf said
[2016-11-01 08:44:23] kumarz : BitMEX_Jack: chyaz
[2016-11-01 08:45:08] kumarz : dasdfasdf: hehe yeah a bit risky with current price action ... that dialog box
[2016-11-01 08:45:16] kumarz : (not having it)
[2016-11-01 08:45:37] kumarz : kindof a necessary evil
[2016-11-01 08:49:13] l3f : Do you pay the funding rate on the total value of the trade or just the borrowed part?
[2016-11-01 08:49:52] micmix : total value of your position
[2016-11-01 08:50:04] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: What micmix said
[2016-11-01 08:50:19] l3f : 0.375% in the next 11 hours
[2016-11-01 08:50:23] l3f : whyyyyy
[2016-11-01 08:50:46] l3f : that's ridiclous
[2016-11-01 08:50:54] micmix : because people want to go long
[2016-11-01 08:51:21] micmix : if you close your position before you won't have to pay anything
[2016-11-01 08:51:47] l3f : So I could close and reopen it?
[2016-11-01 08:52:20] l3f : just between the 8 hour gaps
[2016-11-01 08:52:38] micmix : yes, you can close one minute before and re-open one minute after but the price will jump, so you will have to re-buy at higher price
[2016-11-01 08:54:55] l3f : in 11 hours means that it will change to taht rate in 11 hours?
[2016-11-01 08:55:45] l3f : ok well I think I'll hold for another 11 hours
[2016-11-01 08:55:51] BitMEX_Wally : It means that is the rate that will be charged in 11 hours
[2016-11-01 08:56:18] l3f : all good
[2016-11-01 08:56:19] BitMEX_Wally : The funding rate is set 8 hours in advance
[2016-11-01 08:57:15] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTBON8H
[2016-11-01 08:57:18] l3f : how come this chart is broken?
[2016-11-01 09:00:35] BitMEX_Wally : Looks ok for me. Try right clicking on the chart and selecting 'Reset Chart'
[2016-11-01 09:00:41] BitMEX_Wally : Or copy and pasting the URL into a new tab
[2016-11-01 09:00:58] BitMEX_Wally : If that doesn't work, please email a screenshot to support@bitmex.com
[2016-11-01 09:01:23] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: trading view says "invalid symbol"
[2016-11-01 09:01:48] BitMEX_Wally : Hmmm, at the top right does it say "12h"?
[2016-11-01 09:01:51] BitMEX_Wally : Try selecting "1 day"
[2016-11-01 09:01:57] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, top left
[2016-11-01 09:02:08] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: ah that's better
[2016-11-01 09:02:38] BitMEX_Wally : Weird, 6 hours works, but not 12 hours
[2016-11-01 09:02:58] BitMEX_Wally : (for .XBTBON)
[2016-11-01 09:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : Ok we'll fix this
[2016-11-01 09:12:47] wurstgelee : zec stable above 2 on a totally healthy volume of 3k zec :p
[2016-11-01 09:13:04] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: are bitmex staff allowed to trade on the exchange?
[2016-11-01 09:15:17] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: No. They do have to trade on testnet though to learn the product
[2016-11-01 09:16:03] wurstgelee : would be conflict of interest otherwise obviously :)
[2016-11-01 09:16:31] wurstgelee : same people who decide about rule changes for products cant possibly trade the very same product ;)
[2016-11-01 09:20:26] aethlios : trading destructs you from work, except if trading is your work. your mind is thinking the position you have and always want to check prices.
[2016-11-01 09:21:14] wurstgelee : aethlios: yes. last 2 days was trading @ work but not working q work tbh.
[2016-11-01 09:21:17] wurstgelee : well, mostly
[2016-11-01 09:21:39] wurstgelee : *fr and mon
[2016-11-01 09:21:52] lockhedge : aethlios: let the robots do the work (and the trading) ;)
[2016-11-01 09:23:48] aethlios : ROBO is an ETF I want to invest when stocks crash, robotics companies and bitcoin the best for future income. the apple of year 2035 will be a robotics company.
[2016-11-01 09:25:37] aethlios : http://www.etf.com/ROBO
[2016-11-01 09:27:46] wurstgelee : aethlios: interesting
[2016-11-01 09:28:04] wurstgelee : will check that out sometimes soon
[2016-11-01 09:29:16] aethlios : I will wait for stock market bear market, and try to buy in 3 years cheap, basically long term investment for dividends. Can't find any other etf now to invest in robotics.
[2016-11-01 09:30:43] wurstgelee : never heard of one before tbh
[2016-11-01 09:31:30] wurstgelee : i worked in engineering for some years, mostly robotics area
[2016-11-01 09:31:35] wurstgelee : but back in the late 90s....
[2016-11-01 09:31:41] wurstgelee : completely different thing then ;)
[2016-11-01 09:31:47] wurstgelee : still interested in that field tho
[2016-11-01 09:33:03] aethlios : many employees will lose their job because of robots, so they need to hedge buying robotic stocks cheap.
[2016-11-01 09:33:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3099 @ 723.84
[2016-11-01 09:33:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 180 @ 724.86
[2016-11-01 09:34:04] l3f : hahaha
[2016-11-01 09:37:52] lockhedge : aethlios: BOTZ might be an alternative, but seems to be more focused on AI than robotics https://www.globalxfunds.com/funds/botz/
[2016-11-01 09:39:28] aethlios : lockhedge: thanks.
[2016-11-01 09:42:51] wurstgelee : 2.65 per zec....
[2016-11-01 09:42:56] wurstgelee : madness
[2016-11-01 10:02:20] kradiav : yeap, reality round 2 will kick in eventually
[2016-11-01 10:16:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3500 @ 725.95
[2016-11-01 10:16:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2000 @ 725.90
[2016-11-01 10:16:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9 @ 726.04
[2016-11-01 10:33:56] wurstgelee : i think i should leave work early today. my productivity just made new lows as i realized i haven't even opened my mailclient
[2016-11-01 10:34:17] wurstgelee : and i have been here 2.5h...
[2016-11-01 10:36:18] thomaskikansha : zec local high again