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[2016-10-31 23:10:07] j8 : micmix: lol
[2016-10-31 23:10:13] wurstgelee : micmix: lol
[2016-10-31 23:10:17] Kahir : lol
[2016-10-31 23:10:47] wurstgelee : excellent. i love my display beeing coated with beer
[2016-10-31 23:11:23] wurstgelee : Also known as Sébastien "Legend" Léger, Seb, Elesse, Sebago, The White Duck
[2016-10-31 23:11:28] imabeast : almost back in profits.. i was -275 % at one point haha
[2016-10-31 23:11:35] wurstgelee : sleger, can we call u whity? or ducky?
[2016-10-31 23:11:41] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-10-31 23:11:47] Kahir : bye bye 2 btc
[2016-10-31 23:11:48] Kahir : lol
[2016-10-31 23:11:53] micmix : he prefers The Legend
[2016-10-31 23:12:09] wurstgelee : yeah, pretty sure about that
[2016-10-31 23:12:09] imabeast : wurstgelee: call me the sauceboss
[2016-10-31 23:12:15] nope : imabeast: yup, sitting on 75% roe so far, bust still havent made back my earlier loss
[2016-10-31 23:12:41] wurstgelee : imabeast: do you expect me to understand what youre saying?
[2016-10-31 23:12:44] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-10-31 23:15:01] TwinnerD : Already 50% roe
[2016-10-31 23:15:06] TwinnerD : Its too easy
[2016-10-31 23:15:37] TwinnerD : Thanks rapidtrades
[2016-10-31 23:15:45] TwinnerD : <3
[2016-10-31 23:16:59] muirtastic : in some ZEC here
[2016-10-31 23:17:57] nope : Somewhere somehow, i know rapidtrades was responsible for this pump. He got banned for the sins of all the other longs on buttmex so that they may be accepted into the kingdom of profits
[2016-10-31 23:19:18] EA_FTW : C'mon ZEC, hold up! Got my ZEC all confirmed on nicehash, just waiting for someone to put the manual transfer through..
[2016-10-31 23:19:31] nope : unfortuantely, shit falls faster than it goes up : )
[2016-10-31 23:20:40] EA_FTW : rapidtrades wanted to push ZECZ16 up to 10 again though, didn't quite work!
[2016-10-31 23:21:04] Kahir : EA_FTW: who are rapidtraders lol
[2016-10-31 23:21:07] Kahir : pump group ?
[2016-10-31 23:21:12] EA_FTW : Didn't even break 1
[2016-10-31 23:21:44] EA_FTW : rapidtrades was all over this Trollbox yesterday complaining about the cap of 10 on ZECZ16 (he went long and got burned)
[2016-10-31 23:21:50] EA_FTW : just one guy
[2016-10-31 23:22:32] nope : personally i think the cap was a once in alifetime opportunity in crypto
[2016-10-31 23:22:50] wurstgelee : so far 2.7 btc -> 5.5 btc with .6 ZEC still in transit/unconfirmed
[2016-10-31 23:22:55] kradiav : big gamble though... a chance for uberrektage
[2016-10-31 23:22:55] wurstgelee : mining attempt was a success
[2016-10-31 23:22:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:23:23] nope : soon as I saw it i went ham shorting
[2016-10-31 23:23:48] wurstgelee : i longed....
[2016-10-31 23:23:55] wurstgelee : only 1 tho
[2016-10-31 23:23:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:24:08] EA_FTW : nope: I missed shorting at 10 by 3 mins :-(
[2016-10-31 23:24:09] wurstgelee : didnt realize it is there...until too late
[2016-10-31 23:24:29] EA_FTW : Still shorted at 3 and made bank though :-)
[2016-10-31 23:24:30] wurstgelee : bought 1 @ 7.something
[2016-10-31 23:24:39] nope : EA_FTW: me too, kept lowering my ask, best i got was 7 even
[2016-10-31 23:24:48] EA_FTW : nice
[2016-10-31 23:25:48] EA_FTW : price is slipping away now, my 1.2ZEC still stranded..
[2016-10-31 23:26:04] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: gone into limbo?
[2016-10-31 23:26:26] wurstgelee : or what does stranded mean?
[2016-10-31 23:26:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.427500
[2016-10-31 23:26:46] messiaen8844 : what happens after ETHXBT expires?
[2016-10-31 23:26:47] EA_FTW : Waiting for nicehash to do manual transfer (because of mixup with username/address that was partly my fault)
[2016-10-31 23:26:52] wurstgelee : 1 block to another .2
[2016-10-31 23:26:54] messiaen8844 : are we getting futures or what for eth?
[2016-10-31 23:26:56] muirtastic : i bought ZEC at 3.7 and was down 80% but then bought 5x as much at .7 and cleaned up
[2016-10-31 23:27:00] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: ah ok =)
[2016-10-31 23:27:03] wurstgelee : so not lost then
[2016-10-31 23:27:46] EA_FTW : Not lost, but the BTC profit is slipping away (unless I save it for another pump!?)
[2016-10-31 23:28:47] EA_FTW : Can't see another big pump happening until after slow start mining period is over though (and some real useage is happening)
[2016-10-31 23:30:12] nope : EA_FTW: i have to disagree bro, if I had 100btc right now I would pump the shit out of zec on polo, get the sheep to join in while I short it here thanks to that 10 cap
[2016-10-31 23:30:38] nope : literally printing money
[2016-10-31 23:30:50] EA_FTW : nope: I'm sure that's what was tried today (i.e. rapidtrades' plan)
[2016-10-31 23:31:04] nope : EA_FTW: lol yup
[2016-10-31 23:31:12] EA_FTW : nope: You'd think there would be whales with 1000s of BTC who could do it, so what are they scared of?
[2016-10-31 23:31:26] EA_FTW : I guess if the cap was ever lifted mid pump..
[2016-10-31 23:31:44] wurstgelee : its way easier....
[2016-10-31 23:32:00] wurstgelee : accumulate here
[2016-10-31 23:32:01] wurstgelee : longs
[2016-10-31 23:32:02] nope : EA_FTW: that's the only thing that stopped e from selling a kidnay today
[2016-10-31 23:32:03] wurstgelee : on bitmex
[2016-10-31 23:32:10] wurstgelee : then buy up to 3-4 btc
[2016-10-31 23:32:14] wurstgelee : ADl everywhere
[2016-10-31 23:32:16] wurstgelee : profit
[2016-10-31 23:32:17] wurstgelee : done
[2016-10-31 23:32:21] wurstgelee : rinse and repeat
[2016-10-31 23:32:25] Formiga : I think ZEC could do one more push on polo
[2016-10-31 23:32:33] CapitalGains : I'm with you @wurstgelee
[2016-10-31 23:32:36] wurstgelee : thats whats happening here....
[2016-10-31 23:32:40] nope : i closed my shorts at a loss when it started pumping and got back in at 0.8 when it stalled
[2016-10-31 23:32:45] wurstgelee : last sen few hours ago ;)
[2016-10-31 23:32:48] wurstgelee : *seen
[2016-10-31 23:32:51] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: but the price here isn't responding that much
[2016-10-31 23:32:57] wurstgelee : doesnt matter
[2016-10-31 23:33:01] wurstgelee : lastPrice marking
[2016-10-31 23:33:09] CapitalGains : longs at the bottom when the high longs are liquidated, shorts at the top when the low shorts are liquidated.
[2016-10-31 23:33:24] EA_FTW : Guess it still doubled. Price marking hasn't started though?
[2016-10-31 23:33:27] wurstgelee : just buy up a few btc, mc all shorts who havent an insane amount of margin
[2016-10-31 23:33:31] wurstgelee : get ADL'ed on they way
[2016-10-31 23:33:37] wurstgelee : so u dont even need bids to dump on
[2016-10-31 23:33:41] coinrun : ZEC idoent look like its done yet imo
[2016-10-31 23:33:47] coinrun : doesnt*
[2016-10-31 23:34:22] EA_FTW : coinrun: I can hope
[2016-10-31 23:35:11] wurstgelee : dumped another .2
[2016-10-31 23:35:16] CapitalGains : I don't see any reason for the Polo ZEC madness to end until there are several 1000 ZECs to dump on the market
[2016-10-31 23:35:17] wurstgelee : looks like its dying now
[2016-10-31 23:35:26] wurstgelee : *for now
[2016-10-31 23:35:28] coinrun : CapitalGains: agreed
[2016-10-31 23:35:34] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yep
[2016-10-31 23:35:42] wurstgelee : isnt that awesome? ;)
[2016-10-31 23:35:55] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: you dumping Nicehash mined ZEC on Polo?
[2016-10-31 23:36:02] EA_FTW : So close, yet so far - https://zcash.nicehash.com/balances (sort by confirmed balance)
[2016-10-31 23:36:02] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yep
[2016-10-31 23:36:31] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: that link does only work for you ;)
[2016-10-31 23:36:47] wurstgelee : it does for me too, but it shows me my stuff ;)
[2016-10-31 23:36:47] CapitalGains : That's pretty awesome. It's not every day you sell two alts for 4.4 BTC
[2016-10-31 23:36:56] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: indeed
[2016-10-31 23:37:06] wurstgelee : in fact....the first day for me
[2016-10-31 23:37:08] wurstgelee : never had 42 coin
[2016-10-31 23:37:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:37:33] wurstgelee : or Onecoin iirc?
[2016-10-31 23:37:47] wurstgelee : that shitcoin, summer 2014 iirc, that only had a supply of 1
[2016-10-31 23:37:51] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: oh, I thought that was a public list of all ZEC payouts from nicehash
[2016-10-31 23:38:01] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: oh it is?
[2016-10-31 23:38:03] wurstgelee : sec
[2016-10-31 23:38:17] EA_FTW : maybe you have to be logged in, idk
[2016-10-31 23:38:30] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: ouch
[2016-10-31 23:38:33] nope : CapitalGains: for any other altcoin i would agree but this one is different, never has there been a clone worth much more than the original, call me dumb but i believe anyone with half a brain can see where this story ends
[2016-10-31 23:38:35] wurstgelee : screenshot it
[2016-10-31 23:38:56] wurstgelee : good for laughs after some time has passed ;)
[2016-10-31 23:39:03] EA_FTW : I have, got all the evidence
[2016-10-31 23:39:30] EA_FTW : still time for a fairy tale ending - pump to 10 and pull the trigger at absolute peak ;-)
[2016-10-31 23:39:43] wurstgelee : :)
[2016-10-31 23:39:58] CapitalGains : I'll always remember selling 0.0001 ZEC at a price of 250 BTC
[2016-10-31 23:40:13] nope : CapitalGains: no way
[2016-10-31 23:40:27] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: wow, that is a Capital G Gain!
[2016-10-31 23:40:33] wurstgelee : fuck
[2016-10-31 23:40:42] wurstgelee : forgot about polos withdrawal limit....
[2016-10-31 23:40:45] CapitalGains : During the first 15 minutes when there was only 1 ZEC on Polo
[2016-10-31 23:41:06] EA_FTW : it's like the bitcoin pizza in reverse
[2016-10-31 23:41:18] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: yes
[2016-10-31 23:41:21] CapitalGains : A 0.0001 ZEC pizza
[2016-10-31 23:41:22] messiaen8844 : the guy who bought december futures to 780 must be worried now ;)
[2016-10-31 23:41:32] messiaen8844 : we'll know it's time to buy when we see the liquidation
[2016-10-31 23:42:04] EA_FTW : REKTasaurus incoming?
[2016-10-31 23:42:55] EA_FTW : messiaen8844: looks like he spent relatively little though? Where was orderbook then?
[2016-10-31 23:43:46] EA_FTW : a market order that went horribly wrong (someone pull the rug from under him at last second!?)
[2016-10-31 23:45:58] javierstone : what kind of trade would i use if i want to go long on XBT once it hits a certain price
[2016-10-31 23:47:22] sleger : javierstone: lower or higher price ?
[2016-10-31 23:47:33] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: still not over - got mine incoming at 2/24..
[2016-10-31 23:47:48] javierstone : lower
[2016-10-31 23:47:49] wurstgelee : 4'/24
[2016-10-31 23:47:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:47:54] javierstone : @sleger lower
[2016-10-31 23:47:56] wurstgelee : .13 only tho
[2016-10-31 23:48:00] sleger : limit order then
[2016-10-31 23:48:03] wurstgelee : sending the fractions as soon as available atm
[2016-10-31 23:48:05] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 23:48:29] javierstone : when i try to make the trade at a lower price it says i can't because i would liquidiate immediately
[2016-10-31 23:48:34] javierstone : sleger:
[2016-10-31 23:49:01] jordanbitfort : OKC wall at 4800 about to go down, then we will see liquidations on xbtz16
[2016-10-31 23:49:17] coinrun : whales going to rotate that small zcash float for as long as possible
[2016-10-31 23:49:24] wurstgelee : those paying 3x or 4x the price at nicehash are already fucked
[2016-10-31 23:49:46] wurstgelee : takes ages until they have those overpaid hashes on an exchanges
[2016-10-31 23:49:49] wurstgelee : also nethash jumped
[2016-10-31 23:49:54] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: nice, this is my 1.2ZEC motherlode - all pure profit. 3/24
[2016-10-31 23:50:05] wurstgelee : nice :D
[2016-10-31 23:50:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 3500 @ 730.47
[2016-10-31 23:50:33] wurstgelee : yep, i am 2 blocks ahead
[2016-10-31 23:50:50] wurstgelee : 2.4 all good
[2016-10-31 23:50:54] CapitalGains : How long is it taking you guys to mine this? How much did you pay? (24h right?)
[2016-10-31 23:51:55] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: mined for ~18h, burned 2.7 btc, mined 4.05 zec, dumping for currently 5.48939363 BTC and counting
[2016-10-31 23:51:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:52:11] wurstgelee : almost all dumped now tho, .4 zec left
[2016-10-31 23:52:30] CapitalGains : That's not the worst RoI I've ever heard of
[2016-10-31 23:52:39] wurstgelee : not really
[2016-10-31 23:52:52] wurstgelee : would have been slightly profitable @ .7
[2016-10-31 23:52:58] wurstgelee : that pump helped tho...
[2016-10-31 23:52:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:53:06] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: 1BTC, mined 1.8ZEC over 3 hours between 3 and 6. Best to put hashrate limit at infiinity and price reasonably high in queue to burn through BTC as quick as possible
[2016-10-31 23:53:41] wurstgelee : oh right, i used fuck all methoed: 50k hashes fixed order, 50k standard in top 10 orders
[2016-10-31 23:53:43] EA_FTW : Just got in before the pump so was very lucky (was hoping for 20% profit otherwise)
[2016-10-31 23:53:47] wurstgelee : to burn as quickly as really possible
[2016-10-31 23:53:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:54:02] CapitalGains : On Friday night when the first ZEC was dumped, someone put in a bid at 2 BTC and got a tiny fraction. Then the price shot up to 3200 BTC (and I presume he sold to make 1600x profit.)
[2016-10-31 23:54:11] wurstgelee : well..could have put limit higher but i wanted a constant rate
[2016-10-31 23:54:32] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: possible
[2016-10-31 23:54:54] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: yeah, I don't think anyone made more than about $10000 on Polo during the megapump as the volume was quite low
[2016-10-31 23:54:54] wurstgelee : probably a happy guy now
[2016-10-31 23:55:26] wurstgelee : if that is the case, then we had a multiple of that money in play here...
[2016-10-31 23:55:27] wurstgelee : same time
[2016-10-31 23:55:40] CapitalGains : I think the market depth of 1 ZEC was around 150 BTC at the peak.
[2016-10-31 23:56:01] CapitalGains : But I don't think anyone owned a whole ZEC at the time
[2016-10-31 23:56:25] wurstgelee : probably not. well...pooladmins could do it...
[2016-10-31 23:56:26] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-31 23:56:34] CapitalGains : Shorting on Bitmex at 10 BTC, now that was an opportunity I regret missing
[2016-10-31 23:56:51] EA_FTW : yeah, vol was only about 1000BTC total in time it was above 100BTC prive
[2016-10-31 23:57:07] wurstgelee : grab first mined zec, send....once required confirmations are reached, u have enough in fees and can replace the first coins
[2016-10-31 23:57:17] wurstgelee : user can withdraw
[2016-10-31 23:57:17] sleger : CapitalGains: I did sell 1@10 but then the admin came here and said they would remove the cap so i bought it back and lost lots of potential profits
[2016-10-31 23:57:17] wurstgelee : np
[2016-10-31 23:57:20] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: yeah, I hesitated and lost the opportunity, still made 2BTC as a consolation prize though ;-)
[2016-10-31 23:57:59] CapitalGains : sleger: sucks that you lost the profit, but buying it back was definitely the right choice
[2016-10-31 23:58:01] EA_FTW : 8/24 - hang in there ZEC..
[2016-10-31 23:58:10] wurstgelee : someone must have lost a shitload here...really a shitload
[2016-10-31 23:58:19] wurstgelee : we went all the way up from 1 to 8 until adlk happened
[2016-10-31 23:58:20] EA_FTW : rapidtrades?
[2016-10-31 23:58:26] wurstgelee : today it took only a simple double
[2016-10-31 23:58:36] wurstgelee : someone with really deep pockets must have lost a lot of margin...
[2016-10-31 23:58:47] wurstgelee : no, rapidtrades doesnt have that money
[2016-10-31 23:58:57] EA_FTW : right
[2016-10-31 23:59:09] EA_FTW : nice buywall at 2.3, going up?
[2016-10-31 23:59:14] wurstgelee : he is whining about his long from 3 for 2 days now...
[2016-10-31 23:59:22] wurstgelee : 1 contract
[2016-10-31 23:59:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 23:59:28] EA_FTW : nope, looks like it got scoffed!
[2016-10-31 23:59:52] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: yeah, how much did he lose there?
[2016-11-01 00:00:29] wurstgelee : i dont know but i know its a least a multiple of those 10k u mentioned earlier
[2016-11-01 00:00:30] CapitalGains : I vaguely remember something about long at 3
[2016-11-01 00:00:45] wurstgelee : *at
[2016-11-01 00:01:28] EA_FTW : ouch
[2016-11-01 00:02:07] EA_FTW : ..11/24..
[2016-11-01 00:03:54] CapitalGains : I really feel for people who short without realising what they're getting into. I myself shorted several weeks ago, early days, at 0.08, but fortunately pulled out at 0.1. Could have lost 10 BTC! I was also tempted to short at 2 on Friday, but again I was lucky. Learned my lesson from other people's mistakes now - I won't touch a short.
[2016-11-01 00:04:12] wurstgelee : not in that kind of market
[2016-11-01 00:04:28] wurstgelee : zero supply combined with insta-add on polo was a perfect storm
[2016-11-01 00:04:53] CapitalGains : Long on the other hand... 1x margin... I'll touch that while the going's good
[2016-11-01 00:05:09] wurstgelee : yep. 1x long is relatively safe
[2016-11-01 00:05:29] wurstgelee : i dont understand why anone would do the opposite...
[2016-11-01 00:05:33] wurstgelee : *anyone
[2016-11-01 00:05:53] CapitalGains : Well there's widespread belief that ZEC will be worth 0.1 when things calm down
[2016-11-01 00:06:01] EA_FTW : alts do tend to have a pattern where they start on a pump and then slowly fade. Can always get caught out by whale pumps when shorting though
[2016-11-01 00:06:08] wurstgelee : thats why it wont go down that far probably
[2016-11-01 00:06:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-11-01 00:06:09] CapitalGains : So you think, oh, it's at 4x the price, let's short
[2016-11-01 00:06:40] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: works almost always...zec isnt safe for months tho
[2016-11-01 00:06:44] wurstgelee : for shorting
[2016-11-01 00:06:53] wurstgelee : 300k on dec 30%, dev & vc funds included
[2016-11-01 00:06:59] wurstgelee : thats still nothing
[2016-11-01 00:07:15] CapitalGains : Yes indeed. I think long < 0.4 is safe for a while still.
[2016-11-01 00:07:19] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: I think we should really wait until the supply is mature though (like 100,000 zec)
[2016-11-01 00:07:23] wurstgelee : let half of that be on polo...150k....
[2016-11-01 00:07:26] wurstgelee : whales playground
[2016-11-01 00:07:27] wurstgelee : still
[2016-11-01 00:07:35] CapitalGains : EA_FTW: And then?
[2016-11-01 00:07:47] wurstgelee : 100000 sec is still nothing
[2016-11-01 00:07:52] wurstgelee : 20k of that vc and devs
[2016-11-01 00:07:58] wurstgelee : ~30% in wallets, long term etc..
[2016-11-01 00:08:01] wurstgelee : leaves 50k
[2016-11-01 00:08:02] wurstgelee : nothing
[2016-11-01 00:08:16] wurstgelee : spread on different exchanges too...
[2016-11-01 00:08:19] CapitalGains : I doubt 50k could pump to 3 BTC so easily though
[2016-11-01 00:08:22] wurstgelee : so maybe 30 on polo
[2016-11-01 00:08:43] EA_FTW : yeah, I guess real maturity isn't until millions are released. ZEC is an anomaly because no premine, and publicity from the start
[2016-11-01 00:09:01] wurstgelee : it has to be way higher than .1 to be interesting
[2016-11-01 00:09:03] wurstgelee : for polo
[2016-11-01 00:09:26] wurstgelee : 50k @ 0.1 would be 5k btc "polo cap"
[2016-11-01 00:09:28] wurstgelee : not enough mass
[2016-11-01 00:09:35] wurstgelee : price needs to be way higher
[2016-11-01 00:09:37] EA_FTW : most coins start with a sizeable fraction of total coins
[2016-11-01 00:09:56] CapitalGains : The no pre-mine approach of ZEC and the instant hype makes it a wild card... I might eventually hold one or two.
[2016-11-01 00:10:09] wurstgelee : whals need volume. volume needs market volume
[2016-11-01 00:10:10] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:10:12] CapitalGains : I'd estimate Polo will play with 0.5 - 1.3 or so for the next few months
[2016-11-01 00:10:13] wurstgelee : *e
[2016-11-01 00:10:21] EA_FTW : CapitalGains: certainly the perfect release model for an uberpump!
[2016-11-01 00:10:24] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 00:10:36] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: dunno if .5 but .1 is too low
[2016-11-01 00:10:39] wurstgelee : wont happen
[2016-11-01 00:11:00] EA_FTW : ..16/24.. Can I get 2BTC/ZEC?
[2016-11-01 00:11:06] wurstgelee : .3 isnt a bad entry for a long if if u hold until dec 30
[2016-11-01 00:11:07] wurstgelee : imo
[2016-11-01 00:11:19] CapitalGains : Yes, I think you will get 2.
[2016-11-01 00:11:45] wurstgelee : still a lot guesswork ofc, still fucking early in the game
[2016-11-01 00:12:12] CapitalGains : wurstgelee: Agreed. But why would you hold - and can you even hold without getting adl when the shorts are liquidated? Gotta keep buying back.
[2016-11-01 00:12:15] wurstgelee : but from what i have seen, i like that game
[2016-11-01 00:12:16] wurstgelee : a lot
[2016-11-01 00:12:17] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:12:49] CapitalGains : It's the first time for me that trading has become significantly more profitable than my normal work...
[2016-11-01 00:12:50] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: i had 3 great result with patiently building longs and letting them get ADL
[2016-11-01 00:13:02] wurstgelee : i tend to buy back to early usually
[2016-11-01 00:13:13] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-11-01 00:13:31] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: lol....oh yes
[2016-11-01 00:13:44] wurstgelee : @ more profitable
[2016-11-01 00:14:10] wurstgelee : significantly is far from being an exaggeration tbh
[2016-11-01 00:14:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:15:25] CapitalGains : The greatest temptation is to go long when the price approaches 1 BTC (I get flashbacks of Friday). But I don't/haven't/won't. Although I'd cry if it broke through 1 again without having a long position.
[2016-11-01 00:15:28] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: will prob be the first year i have to also pay significant capital gains taxes...
[2016-11-01 00:15:41] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: yep. 1 is dangerous...REALLy dangerous
[2016-11-01 00:15:49] CapitalGains : Haha me too if I'm not careful
[2016-11-01 00:15:53] nope : CapitalGains: yup, made more in the last 72hrs than I will over the next two months at my full time job
[2016-11-01 00:16:23] wurstgelee : nope: 10 months here. net salary after taxes
[2016-11-01 00:16:24] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-01 00:16:34] EA_FTW : Wow!
[2016-11-01 00:16:38] wurstgelee : since friday
[2016-11-01 00:16:44] nope : wurstgelee: congrats brotha!
[2016-11-01 00:16:49] laisee : time to retire from day job?
[2016-11-01 00:16:50] EA_FTW : I've got pretty much no other income, so can say Infinity ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:16:59] wurstgelee : thanks
[2016-11-01 00:17:00] wurstgelee : also
[2016-11-01 00:17:04] wurstgelee : laisee: no way
[2016-11-01 00:17:07] wurstgelee : i love my job
[2016-11-01 00:17:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:17:15] zanza : congrats on your casino wins
[2016-11-01 00:17:17] wurstgelee : i can trade all day...it admin
[2016-11-01 00:17:18] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-01 00:17:39] CapitalGains : Congrats! Just don't fall victim to the gambler's curse - cash in on a lot of the profit and put it somewhere safer. Not all of it, of course.
[2016-11-01 00:17:40] wurstgelee : zanza: i was casino, nothing else
[2016-11-01 00:17:52] laisee : heh, I work IT also. Quite flexible re usee of tablets and phones for trading
[2016-11-01 00:18:04] wurstgelee : CapitalGains: i have witdrawn >80% the next day
[2016-11-01 00:18:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:18:20] wurstgelee : laisee: yep
[2016-11-01 00:18:23] wurstgelee : indeed
[2016-11-01 00:18:39] wurstgelee : 2 displays for work and 1 for bitmex/charts
[2016-11-01 00:18:40] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:18:50] laisee : ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:18:51] EA_FTW : Cool, I'm going to cashout my winnings for a change (normally just increase my ETH holdings)
[2016-11-01 00:19:03] nope : zanza: i don't gamble, but i will go all in on sure things, this was the closest thing to a layup i've ever seen in my life, and i've been trading since the dotcom bust in the late 90's
[2016-11-01 00:19:14] CapitalGains : Good good. I haven't hit my target profit, but once I do I'm going to withdraw a chunk to good old fiat.
[2016-11-01 00:19:28] CapitalGains : nope: what's a layup?
[2016-11-01 00:19:59] wurstgelee : something rare i'd assume ;)
[2016-11-01 00:20:26] zanza : an easy shot
[2016-11-01 00:20:29] EA_FTW : Hmm, only 10BTC to 2.5.. has it got anymore legs?
[2016-11-01 00:20:33] nope : wurstgelee: american basketball, easiest points you can get
[2016-11-01 00:20:35] laisee : nah, its the easiest shot in basketball game.
[2016-11-01 00:20:46] wurstgelee : nope: right :)
[2016-11-01 00:21:29] wurstgelee : thats why i know someone lost a shitload btw. i had a bunch of longs open since .7 or something and they all got ADL @ 8.something iirc
[2016-11-01 00:21:30] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-11-01 00:21:50] CapitalGains : Jealous ;)
[2016-11-01 00:22:09] wurstgelee : i would be 2 tbh
[2016-11-01 00:22:26] wurstgelee : so, a big part of that was luck anyways...expected adl way earlier.
[2016-11-01 00:22:32] wurstgelee : but hey, its a casino ;)
[2016-11-01 00:22:39] wurstgelee : you need luck sometimes
[2016-11-01 00:23:06] CapitalGains : Or no pre-mine, in this case
[2016-11-01 00:23:11] wurstgelee : hehe, yep
[2016-11-01 00:23:32] wurstgelee : it helped that i was convinced from day 1 that this would happen. ;)
[2016-11-01 00:23:54] EA_FTW : 23/24.. seems to be teetering on a knife edge
[2016-11-01 00:23:58] wurstgelee : well, not exactly this, but i expected 5 btc as peak or sth
[2016-11-01 00:24:05] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: oohhh
[2016-11-01 00:24:07] wurstgelee : mom
[2016-11-01 00:24:18] EA_FTW : everyone's waiting
[2016-11-01 00:24:43] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: dumped
[2016-11-01 00:24:45] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-11-01 00:24:52] wurstgelee : i forgot ;)
[2016-11-01 00:25:54] nope : can someone dump this to the low 30's so I can break even and go to the titty bar?
[2016-11-01 00:25:59] coingreed : wurstgelee: hey if i may now what are you guys talking about ? is it zec
[2016-11-01 00:26:09] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 00:26:12] sleger : coingreed: no factom
[2016-11-01 00:26:12] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: np. Gosh this is a long block!
[2016-11-01 00:26:27] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: 2 will hold :)
[2016-11-01 00:27:39] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: dumped at 2.18 :-) Mission accomplished!
[2016-11-01 00:27:58] CapitalGains : Good stuff.
[2016-11-01 00:28:02] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-11-01 00:28:02] EA_FTW : 1BTC -> 4.2BTC All in a day's work ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:28:13] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: thanks for the nicehash recommendation!
[2016-11-01 00:28:21] wurstgelee : np :)
[2016-11-01 00:28:33] wurstgelee : 1 to 4.2 is impressive
[2016-11-01 00:28:55] wurstgelee : well, thats happens when u patiently wait for your strategically well placed orders i guess
[2016-11-01 00:28:59] wurstgelee : *-s
[2016-11-01 00:29:58] coingreed : hey how long does btc deposit usually take here?
[2016-11-01 00:30:38] jordanbitfort : 2 hrs for me
[2016-11-01 00:30:39] wurstgelee : sooo...are we replaying that thing again tomorrow? bottomning all day .3 to .4, ADL party later? :p
[2016-11-01 00:32:21] laisee : then off to some t1tty bar ... ;-)
[2016-11-01 00:33:30] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-11-01 00:34:14] nope : lol
[2016-11-01 00:35:10] coingreed : wurstgelee: hey is the zec game still good?
[2016-11-01 00:35:15] laisee : life of a ZEC trader ... its not 4 everyone
[2016-11-01 00:35:31] wurstgelee : coingreed: mining?
[2016-11-01 00:35:35] wurstgelee : or here?
[2016-11-01 00:36:29] coingreed : wurstgelee: here
[2016-11-01 00:37:15] wurstgelee : coingreed: lol, dunno. :) but as long as there is no marking besides "last price" here, its likely we will see a replay soon i guess
[2016-11-01 00:38:16] wurstgelee : this has nothing to do with trading anyways, its pure gambling atm
[2016-11-01 00:39:22] coingreed : wurstgelee: yeah i know, do u do long for now or short?
[2016-11-01 00:39:35] coingreed : wait w
[2016-11-01 00:39:42] wurstgelee : i want to keep my btc
[2016-11-01 00:39:49] wurstgelee : i would never short zec atm
[2016-11-01 00:39:49] coingreed : what do u mean by marking?
[2016-11-01 00:40:11] wurstgelee : reference price is currently last price
[2016-11-01 00:40:21] wurstgelee : =price of last executed trade
[2016-11-01 00:40:37] wurstgelee : usually mark price is tied to some reference exchange or index
[2016-11-01 00:40:41] coingreed : wurstgelee: ohh okay
[2016-11-01 00:40:41] wurstgelee : usually polo for alts
[2016-11-01 00:41:20] wurstgelee : but apparently its unsafe to use polo as and index currently and its much safer to play "the game"
[2016-11-01 00:41:21] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-11-01 00:42:00] wurstgelee : for further informations, please ask one of the admins. i dont understand it ;)
[2016-11-01 00:42:34] coingreed : wurstgelee: Haha loll thanks for the input anyway
[2016-11-01 00:42:42] wurstgelee : np ;)
[2016-11-01 00:51:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 700.90 :punch: :whale:
[2016-11-01 01:03:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 110868 @ 703.77 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-11-01 01:03:26] chromaticcr1 : Every time there is a pump / dump in zec I am asleep. Seems like the whole game is targeting non-asian noobs
[2016-11-01 01:06:45] mjones : it's hard to get out of a big position if price is going the wrong direction on you
[2016-11-01 01:09:37] chromaticcr1 : mjones: just switch it to max leverage instead of cross, let the system handles the rest
[2016-11-01 01:13:29] jordanbitfort : you can do it BTC! about to start pushing highs again
[2016-11-01 01:32:20] BitMEX_Sam : FYI: new feature incoming; drag to amend price on the chart. More details soon
[2016-11-01 02:27:42] mjones : xbtz16 pumping
[2016-11-01 02:28:03] mjones : when shorts get trapped part 6
[2016-11-01 02:30:29] micmix : I'm short xbtz16 and I'm not worried
[2016-11-01 02:33:07] sleger : I was long and getting short now
[2016-11-01 02:33:34] micmix : 666 orders? ;-)
[2016-11-01 02:34:11] sleger : For good luck
[2016-11-01 02:35:01] blacktuesday : closed xbz16 long at 764
[2016-11-01 02:35:04] blacktuesday : :)
[2016-11-01 02:35:15] micmix : someone just bought 20k @ 764
[2016-11-01 02:35:26] blacktuesday : that was my sell :)
[2016-11-01 02:35:59] blacktuesday : I was long from the dip
[2016-11-01 02:36:02] micmix : and main MM back, hedged now I guess
[2016-11-01 02:37:30] sleger : Why did the premium go up so much?
[2016-11-01 02:38:26] blacktuesday : I have no idea, all of a sudden i saw it up over $10 and I put in a sell order :)
[2016-11-01 02:38:56] micmix : someone bought a sh1t ton
[2016-11-01 02:53:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 12500 @ 749.27
[2016-11-01 02:53:26] messiaen8844 : gee, what's that action on z16?
[2016-11-01 02:55:30] arbitrage001 : messiaen8844: premium was too high
[2016-11-01 02:55:36] arbitrage001 : trader noticed
[2016-11-01 02:55:43] arbitrage001 : and short/hedge more
[2016-11-01 02:56:12] arbitrage001 : messiaen8844: opps, wrong contract
[2016-11-01 02:58:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 610 @ 709.52
[2016-11-01 02:58:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 710.56
[2016-11-01 02:58:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 710.69
[2016-11-01 03:21:18] gafs : something there to talk about ?
[2016-11-01 03:23:20] chromaticcr1 : i guess everyone is tired after the pump few hours ago
[2016-11-01 03:23:49] chromaticcr1 : which i slept through... with my orders all filled :P
[2016-11-01 03:24:01] gafs : i made some profits
[2016-11-01 03:24:07] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: which contract? short or long?
[2016-11-01 03:24:09] gafs : 32%
[2016-11-01 03:24:30] gafs : i was long with full leverage
[2016-11-01 03:24:33] gafs : =P
[2016-11-01 03:24:44] chromaticcr1 : shorting all the way from 0.66 - 0.948
[2016-11-01 03:25:16] chromaticcr1 : the hidden long order at 0.4331 was me, this morning
[2016-11-01 03:25:45] chromaticcr1 : * i mean 2 hours ago, morning in HK
[2016-11-01 03:26:04] gafs : what coins you guys trade
[2016-11-01 03:26:06] arbitrage001 : closing short position?
[2016-11-01 03:26:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: zec
[2016-11-01 03:26:28] chromaticcr1 : yeah, partially
[2016-11-01 03:26:47] gafs : arbitrage001: the crazy zec,kk,it looks dangerous in the long run
[2016-11-01 03:26:51] QuantFocus : you guys this this btc run has been overextended?
[2016-11-01 03:26:59] arbitrage001 : gafs: only for short
[2016-11-01 03:27:15] arbitrage001 : gafs: unleveraged long can sleep thru the night
[2016-11-01 03:27:39] gafs : arbitrage001: i am new here
[2016-11-01 03:27:55] gafs : arbitrage001: i use poloniex,i am just trying for some days
[2016-11-01 03:28:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: have exp trading alt coin?
[2016-11-01 03:28:43] gafs : arbitrage001: yes,i have made a lot of profits in the eth boom
[2016-11-01 03:28:49] gafs : arbitrage001: 418 %
[2016-11-01 03:28:55] arbitrage001 : gafs: what about down cycle?
[2016-11-01 03:29:08] arbitrage001 : eth was rare case
[2016-11-01 03:29:30] gafs : arbitrage001: so,i have traded most longs,
[2016-11-01 03:29:44] gafs : i am only a few months trying shorts
[2016-11-01 03:30:00] arbitrage001 : on eth?
[2016-11-01 03:30:09] arbitrage001 : or zec?
[2016-11-01 03:30:16] gafs : yes,the first was when the hack attacked
[2016-11-01 03:30:27] micmix : shorts are more tricky on alts
[2016-11-01 03:30:32] gafs : i had to short it,altought i knew it would come back
[2016-11-01 03:30:44] arbitrage001 : micmix: yea, only take 1 wrong move to get wiped out
[2016-11-01 03:31:20] gafs : indeed i have made a lot of money,because i began investing with btc at 200 usd
[2016-11-01 03:32:06] micmix : good for you, make sure to put some btc aside, don't trade with all
[2016-11-01 03:32:36] gafs : i have made some cashouts at around 500us
[2016-11-01 03:32:56] gafs : to buy some trading books,and a new pc
[2016-11-01 03:33:15] gafs : and to take a brake for my wife
[2016-11-01 03:33:39] gafs : just some weeks at home to rest a b
[2016-11-01 03:33:57] micmix : brake for your wife or from your wife? ;-)
[2016-11-01 03:34:11] gafs : for her
[2016-11-01 03:34:14] gafs : kkk
[2016-11-01 03:34:38] gafs : she was working as a crazy to keep up with the bills
[2016-11-01 03:34:44] gafs : i give her some help
[2016-11-01 03:34:51] gafs : gave*
[2016-11-01 03:36:11] gafs : some toughts on lisk ?,i had invested in the ico,but sold it when it was 48 cents
[2016-11-01 03:36:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: which country are you from?
[2016-11-01 03:36:29] gafs : brazil
[2016-11-01 03:36:40] micmix : lisk will be removed from here on Friday
[2016-11-01 03:36:54] arbitrage001 : how is the country as a whole doing?
[2016-11-01 03:36:54] micmix : it's pretty much dead for now
[2016-11-01 03:37:41] gafs : not that bad,the pace where i live is mainly agricultural land,and there is always money around growing food
[2016-11-01 03:37:48] gafs : place
[2016-11-01 03:38:18] arbitrage001 : gafs: land price is reasonable?
[2016-11-01 03:38:39] arbitrage001 : how much per acre for agriculture land
[2016-11-01 03:38:45] gafs : yes,for our currrency here it is
[2016-11-01 03:38:58] arbitrage001 : a bit lucky
[2016-11-01 03:39:07] gafs : around 40.000u$ 24.000²
[2016-11-01 03:39:21] arbitrage001 : agriculture land in my country went up 10 times in less than 5 years
[2016-11-01 03:39:33] gafs : in our local currency 120000 reai
[2016-11-01 03:39:52] gafs : it went up 20 folds in 6 years here
[2016-11-01 03:40:18] arbitrage001 : the population can still afford the price increase?
[2016-11-01 03:40:38] arbitrage001 : in term of cost of living, food, etc
[2016-11-01 03:40:41] gafs : we are in the tipping point,sales stopped
[2016-11-01 03:40:52] gafs : about 8 months ag
[2016-11-01 03:41:10] gafs : i am sure prices may come down
[2016-11-01 03:41:25] gafs : atleast in the cities,i am not sure for the crop fields
[2016-11-01 03:41:34] arbitrage001 : gafs: hard to say
[2016-11-01 03:41:57] arbitrage001 : central bank always bail out bank, upper class/financial
[2016-11-01 03:41:58] gafs : in 2009 we sold a house for around 7000u$
[2016-11-01 03:42:10] gafs : now its worth atleast 50.000u$
[2016-11-01 03:42:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.548218
[2016-11-01 03:42:29] chromaticcr1 : lol c'mon
[2016-11-01 03:42:42] arbitrage001 : chromaticcr1: short it lol
[2016-11-01 03:42:52] arbitrage001 : that was quick
[2016-11-01 03:43:36] gafs : so back then we bough a car,very good here,with that money
[2016-11-01 03:43:43] gafs : now our car is worth 5000
[2016-11-01 03:43:58] arbitrage001 : gafs: only car? for work?
[2016-11-01 03:44:09] arbitrage001 : car is usually a bad investment
[2016-11-01 03:44:18] arbitrage001 : depreciate too fast
[2016-11-01 03:44:27] gafs : yes,i told dad to put it in land again
[2016-11-01 03:44:36] gafs : but his car was old,kk
[2016-11-01 03:44:42] gafs : from ww2
[2016-11-01 03:45:10] gafs : but we kept 2 huses
[2016-11-01 03:45:39] gafs : houses,dad is thinking of seelling one now,for around 60.000u$
[2016-11-01 03:45:50] arbitrage001 : house price in asia is out of controlled
[2016-11-01 03:45:58] gafs : we can buy 10 cars with thtat now
[2016-11-01 03:46:24] arbitrage001 : comparing house with land, land has better value
[2016-11-01 03:46:27] gafs : do you live in asia ?
[2016-11-01 03:46:31] arbitrage001 : if use for growing food
[2016-11-01 03:46:36] arbitrage001 : yes. malaysia here
[2016-11-01 03:46:55] gafs : it must be 10 in the morning there
[2016-11-01 03:46:58] gafs : ?
[2016-11-01 03:47:09] arbitrage001 : cost of renting is cheaper than cost of owning here