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[2016-10-31 20:26:56] Yuppie : is it possible to margin only a single psoition?
[2016-10-31 20:27:14] messiaen8844 : buy buy buy zec
[2016-10-31 20:27:17] messiaen8844 : squeeze coming
[2016-10-31 20:27:24] messiaen8844 : remember limited risk longing, unlimited risk shorting
[2016-10-31 20:27:48] wurstgelee : 2.63..... ;)
[2016-10-31 20:28:02] NL007 : 3btc coming
[2016-10-31 20:28:11] coinrun : nice
[2016-10-31 20:28:12] elfix : yep
[2016-10-31 20:28:14] RoftheN : Why limited risk longing?
[2016-10-31 20:28:14] aethlios : what a fake polo market, too much manipulation
[2016-10-31 20:28:16] Yuppie : KBIO
[2016-10-31 20:28:17] coinrun : nice nice nice
[2016-10-31 20:28:19] zecz : only 1500 coins
[2016-10-31 20:28:25] zecz : could go to 10-100 in a hype
[2016-10-31 20:28:28] zecz : just wait and see
[2016-10-31 20:28:37] Rado : zecz: no it can't
[2016-10-31 20:28:44] NL007 : 1670 ZEC
[2016-10-31 20:28:45] zecz : people on polo doesnt care
[2016-10-31 20:28:48] RocketScience : dec 30 future are now up 8 dollars, but spot price is the same...
[2016-10-31 20:28:49] zecz : they want to casino
[2016-10-31 20:28:54] RoftheN : But this is future, and we all know it's going down soon
[2016-10-31 20:28:59] RocketScience : i was long luckily....from - to + :)
[2016-10-31 20:29:15] kryptopojken : golden opportunity to close shorts into the 11 wall
[2016-10-31 20:29:18] sleger : rapidtrades: it's happening !
[2016-10-31 20:29:22] kryptopojken : do it or get rekt
[2016-10-31 20:29:32] sleger : last time you can buy before 1 people
[2016-10-31 20:29:33] elfix : zec go back to 500 btc as it starts
[2016-10-31 20:29:37] Rado : sleger: it will be hard for him to get out at 3
[2016-10-31 20:29:41] Rado : but he can maybe get 1.5
[2016-10-31 20:29:45] messiaen8844 : rofthen: if you hold 1 ZEC @ 0.2 you can only lose 0.2
[2016-10-31 20:29:58] RocketScience : sleger: If you buy 1 million xbt dec 30 will mark price move like 10 dollars up?
[2016-10-31 20:29:58] sleger : Rado: we're going back to 10
[2016-10-31 20:30:00] messiaen8844 : if you short @ 0.2 and it rises to 2BTC... ouch
[2016-10-31 20:30:04] wurstgelee : sleger: yep
[2016-10-31 20:30:06] wurstgelee : probably
[2016-10-31 20:30:07] Rado : sleger: you think
[2016-10-31 20:30:19] Yuppie : this is not going to stop
[2016-10-31 20:30:22] wurstgelee : 2.8 is not the peak
[2016-10-31 20:30:25] messiaen8844 : 10 BTC then down, will be great here
[2016-10-31 20:30:26] sleger : Rado: i wouldnt short anywhere below 5-7
[2016-10-31 20:30:29] Rado : I doubt it, but anythign is possible
[2016-10-31 20:30:30] RocketScience : 3.1
[2016-10-31 20:30:30] Yuppie : there are only like 2000 coins mined yet
[2016-10-31 20:30:32] wurstgelee : its in that range too long
[2016-10-31 20:30:34] wurstgelee : see?
[2016-10-31 20:30:35] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 20:30:37] RocketScience : 3.13 !!!!!
[2016-10-31 20:30:44] elfix : waou not finish
[2016-10-31 20:30:45] kryptopojken : hoooly crap
[2016-10-31 20:30:47] RocketScience : 3.20 :D
[2016-10-31 20:30:48] NL007 : boom
[2016-10-31 20:30:50] mjones : damn. either i would be up 400% or adl if my left my zec long open. time to go rage
[2016-10-31 20:30:51] zecz : 25% of the coins are in devs wallet, and they dont sell
[2016-10-31 20:31:01] RocketScience : 3.35
[2016-10-31 20:31:02] aethlios : only 100 asks polo, manipulators party
[2016-10-31 20:31:03] RocketScience : hahaha
[2016-10-31 20:31:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 8 @ 0.916358
[2016-10-31 20:31:10] sleger : 33 coins to 1.19 (if no hidden)
[2016-10-31 20:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.935751
[2016-10-31 20:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.939572
[2016-10-31 20:31:14] Gr33d : ZEC for king
[2016-10-31 20:31:32] numero : Fury, fury fury!
[2016-10-31 20:31:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.977803
[2016-10-31 20:32:29] prospecta : wriggedy wriggedy rekt son
[2016-10-31 20:32:38] public username 321 : wtf?
[2016-10-31 20:32:54] EA_FTW : omfg, now 6BTC slowly slipping away :-( https://zcash.nicehash.com/balances
[2016-10-31 20:32:54] mjones : anyone still have a zec long position open from .25 area?
[2016-10-31 20:32:54] gustavo7 : 3.5 on polo already
[2016-10-31 20:33:04] Rado : 2.80
[2016-10-31 20:33:06] Rado : actually
[2016-10-31 20:33:23] Rado : now going back up
[2016-10-31 20:33:24] gustavo7 : i mean high in the candle
[2016-10-31 20:33:29] Rado : yes
[2016-10-31 20:33:31] aethlios : they will dump below 1 soon
[2016-10-31 20:33:32] kryptopojken : last change to close below 1
[2016-10-31 20:33:36] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: are you planning to switch XBJ back to Quione or it will stay on LastPriceProtected?
[2016-10-31 20:33:38] imabeast : that was wild
[2016-10-31 20:33:41] gustavo7 : <-- guys were going to seven
[2016-10-31 20:34:01] lopol : What a great chance to short zec now
[2016-10-31 20:34:10] messiaen8844 : go for it
[2016-10-31 20:34:16] messiaen8844 : try it will be fun
[2016-10-31 20:34:20] aili : messiaen8844: =)
[2016-10-31 20:34:40] lopol : If my liq price is above then i will make sure pforit on longterm
[2016-10-31 20:34:42] CapitalGains : DON'T short with less than 10 BTC margin
[2016-10-31 20:34:55] messiaen8844 : just make sure your liquidation is above 10BTC
[2016-10-31 20:35:00] blacktuesday : is zcash price still capped
[2016-10-31 20:35:02] blacktuesday : ?
[2016-10-31 20:35:03] CapitalGains : It spirals out of control in the blink of an eye
[2016-10-31 20:35:09] CapitalGains : Yes it's capped at 10 BTC
[2016-10-31 20:35:09] Rado : blacktuesday: yes
[2016-10-31 20:35:16] messiaen8844 : yes
[2016-10-31 20:35:21] blacktuesday : thxs
[2016-10-31 20:35:48] sleger : i think it would be perfect timing to switch to polo AND remove the cap :D :D
[2016-10-31 20:36:06] Rado : sleger: it was this morning
[2016-10-31 20:36:11] wurstgelee : sleger: :D :D :D
[2016-10-31 20:36:12] Rado : now not so much
[2016-10-31 20:36:18] wurstgelee : healthy volume!
[2016-10-31 20:36:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 20:36:23] KingLISK : There is way more volume then 1000 zec now on polo, time to mark to spot bitmex :)
[2016-10-31 20:36:23] Rado : also they said they will give us 24 H notice
[2016-10-31 20:36:25] sleger : Rado: all the shorts would close out of fear
[2016-10-31 20:36:33] wurstgelee : sleger: :p
[2016-10-31 20:36:38] Rado : sleger: BitMEX doesn't want that I think
[2016-10-31 20:36:45] sleger : no kidding
[2016-10-31 20:36:51] sleger : was a joke
[2016-10-31 20:36:54] messiaen8844 : 24hs notice
[2016-10-31 20:37:10] messiaen8844 : let's see if I can do healthly withdraws and deposits now ;)
[2016-10-31 20:37:18] messiaen8844 : on zcash
[2016-10-31 20:37:29] kryptopojken : omg pump continues
[2016-10-31 20:37:33] kryptopojken : poloooo
[2016-10-31 20:37:40] Rado : no more buyers here
[2016-10-31 20:37:44] gustavo7 : volume in the last 5min candle on polo is double then in the one before
[2016-10-31 20:37:44] zecz : i want to short!
[2016-10-31 20:37:45] public username 321 : why would this make sense?
[2016-10-31 20:37:49] zecz : but its not safe
[2016-10-31 20:37:55] lopol : So is adl good or bad thing if happens to trader?
[2016-10-31 20:37:56] sleger : Open Interest 330
[2016-10-31 20:38:02] messiaen8844 : short XMR long ZCASH
[2016-10-31 20:38:02] messiaen8844 : flowing from one to another
[2016-10-31 20:38:06] gustavo7 : *halfway there*
[2016-10-31 20:38:15] prospecta : fomo
[2016-10-31 20:38:36] Rado : cmon
[2016-10-31 20:38:39] Rado : buy buy
[2016-10-31 20:38:51] aili : doesnt rise on polo
[2016-10-31 20:38:53] aethlios : haven't seen such a scam again, do zcash devs have a cat???
[2016-10-31 20:38:53] kryptopojken : LAST chance to close below 1
[2016-10-31 20:39:03] aili : it wil go through 1$
[2016-10-31 20:39:06] aili : here
[2016-10-31 20:39:14] aili : if polo reaches 4
[2016-10-31 20:39:16] sleger : 25 away from 1.1999
[2016-10-31 20:39:17] imabeast : stiff resistance at 3.5
[2016-10-31 20:39:22] imabeast : on polo
[2016-10-31 20:39:41] Yuppie : if I had 15BTC Id take it through 1
[2016-10-31 20:39:50] sleger : if someone buys 20, high chance of making money by liquidating more shorters
[2016-10-31 20:40:26] CapitalGains : And if someone sells 4, all the longs will be liquidat
[2016-10-31 20:40:33] CapitalGains : *ed
[2016-10-31 20:40:44] sleger : CapitalGains: no because most longs have been long from way lower
[2016-10-31 20:40:55] imabeast : gah i wish i could have shorted there
[2016-10-31 20:40:55] sleger : see nothing happens
[2016-10-31 20:40:56] imabeast : damnit
[2016-10-31 20:41:06] miramm1115 : here you go
[2016-10-31 20:41:06] CapitalGains : I mean the longs at 0.99
[2016-10-31 20:41:08] numero : heh
[2016-10-31 20:41:11] aethlios : zcrash
[2016-10-31 20:41:12] wurstgelee : wuhahaha
[2016-10-31 20:41:17] wurstgelee : such fun
[2016-10-31 20:41:19] sleger : CapitalGains: you're wrong, many got sold nothing happened
[2016-10-31 20:41:24] messiaen8844 : longs have liquidation at minus infinity
[2016-10-31 20:41:29] zcasher7777 : hi so who is the noob i say at 0.10 buy now0.8 x8 x9 xddd
[2016-10-31 20:41:36] CapitalGains : Depends on margin, true
[2016-10-31 20:41:50] RoftheN : Damn I'm too late to short high
[2016-10-31 20:42:00] CapitalGains : If they're on cross margin with more than they paid, they won't get liquidated
[2016-10-31 20:42:08] messiaen8844 : lol rapid trades not online?
[2016-10-31 20:42:08] messiaen8844 : he might get pissed
[2016-10-31 20:42:14] messiaen8844 : and boy he is good at getting pissed
[2016-10-31 20:42:20] miramm1115 : at least the orderbook is clear now, price can jump from 0.5 to 1
[2016-10-31 20:42:39] imabeast : wow that scared the shit out of me
[2016-10-31 20:42:45] wurstgelee : imabeast: :D
[2016-10-31 20:42:50] wurstgelee : not the last run
[2016-10-31 20:42:53] imabeast : thank god i have enough liquidity
[2016-10-31 20:42:56] imabeast : lmao
[2016-10-31 20:43:05] wurstgelee : still plenty of time for shenenigans
[2016-10-31 20:43:10] imabeast : yes true
[2016-10-31 20:43:16] wurstgelee : 24h notice in advance etc ;)
[2016-10-31 20:43:18] kryptopojken : polo going back up
[2016-10-31 20:43:50] aili : target 5?
[2016-10-31 20:43:55] aili : maybe lets see
[2016-10-31 20:43:57] messiaen8844 : short now guys, we want another round of liquidations
[2016-10-31 20:44:02] aili : =)
[2016-10-31 20:44:13] messiaen8844 : it's going down, but can you stand the heat?
[2016-10-31 20:44:53] messiaen8844 : call POLO friends, you can buy ZCASH fhere for 0.7, why pay 2.6 :D
[2016-10-31 20:45:42] aethlios : if you don't have liq. price 10, don't touch.
[2016-10-31 20:45:59] allyourbase : messiaen8844: lol you can't buy zcash here
[2016-10-31 20:46:10] aethlios : goes 700 usd up and down in a sec.
[2016-10-31 20:46:11] aili : gogo)
[2016-10-31 20:46:23] laisee : ZEC will overtake BTC as numero uno blockchain ... buy now :-)
[2016-10-31 20:47:02] RocketScience : zec 3.27 fora sec
[2016-10-31 20:48:00] Rado : laisee: ha ha
[2016-10-31 20:48:20] laisee : Rado scaring he shorties ... ;-)
[2016-10-31 20:48:45] messiaen8844 : here
[2016-10-31 20:48:44] messiaen8844 : allyourbase: you can buy a rocket ticket
[2016-10-31 20:48:45] RocketScience : zec's trading algorhytim is PoDG Proof of degenerate gamblers xD
[2016-10-31 20:49:04] aili : RocketScience: hahahha
[2016-10-31 20:49:11] aili : thats funny mate)
[2016-10-31 20:49:25] messiaen8844 : just remember to sell the ticket at the right time
[2016-10-31 20:49:26] messiaen8844 : :D
[2016-10-31 20:49:30] messiaen8844 : fueled by poor shorters
[2016-10-31 20:49:41] laisee : maybe rename from ZEC to CASINO
[2016-10-31 20:49:49] aethlios : time works for shorters,
[2016-10-31 20:49:56] aili : )
[2016-10-31 20:50:00] RocketScience : ZECINO
[2016-10-31 20:50:14] aethlios : new mined coins will arrive soon
[2016-10-31 20:50:17] laisee : JOKER
[2016-10-31 20:50:24] RocketScience : every new zec is quantitative easing
[2016-10-31 20:50:43] RocketScience : look at price oj usd/jpy after Japan started printing moneys
[2016-10-31 20:50:55] y1uy : RocketScience: when did they start?
[2016-10-31 20:51:05] prospecta : tiiimbeeeerrrrrr
[2016-10-31 20:51:06] RocketScience : somewhere in 2013
[2016-10-31 20:51:12] RocketScience : when it jumped to 120
[2016-10-31 20:51:12] laisee : QE saves banks, kills the economy and savings
[2016-10-31 20:51:21] imabeast : short at .9 would have been nice
[2016-10-31 20:51:25] RocketScience : you can clearly see it on chart
[2016-10-31 20:51:34] zecz : now time to crash
[2016-10-31 20:51:38] y1uy : buy my 0.84 order bae
[2016-10-31 20:51:39] zecz : back to 1, here we go
[2016-10-31 20:51:46] aethlios : decem each day 7.200 new coins, shorters will laugh last collecting bulls blood at expiration
[2016-10-31 20:51:54] imabeast : y1uy: i would
[2016-10-31 20:52:01] imabeast : y1uy: but i cant
[2016-10-31 20:52:01] RocketScience : inflation is a bch
[2016-10-31 20:52:07] y1uy : imabeast: why?
[2016-10-31 20:52:15] y1uy : imabeast: :(
[2016-10-31 20:52:32] zecz : today 1500 coins, 1 jan, 135 000 coins
[2016-10-31 20:52:38] zecz : price will go down ofc
[2016-10-31 20:52:46] aili : щас
[2016-10-31 20:53:02] zecz : but how much, maybe down to 0,1 btc
[2016-10-31 20:53:03] aili : but this adl thing is really fun
[2016-10-31 20:53:12] zecz : adl?
[2016-10-31 20:53:15] y1uy : might rebounce at 2btc
[2016-10-31 20:53:48] aethlios : 30 dec. 315.000 coins
[2016-10-31 20:54:17] y1uy : zcash pump on election?
[2016-10-31 20:54:23] allyourbase : show's over, lol
[2016-10-31 20:54:29] wignodeer : and then daily generation of 7220 coins right
[2016-10-31 20:55:07] aethlios : 7200 each day after day 35
[2016-10-31 20:55:23] y1uy : how many per day now?
[2016-10-31 20:55:32] coinrun : 1600 available
[2016-10-31 20:55:46] RocketScience : weighted average:1.99 btc per zec, volume 1500
[2016-10-31 20:55:47] laisee : 24hr Volume: 2510.32982689 BTC / 1647.10737849 ZEC
[2016-10-31 20:55:58] wignodeer : at 0.5 btc thats 3610 btc a day. More than what bitcoin currently gets in daily fiat support. Is it possible with zec?
[2016-10-31 20:56:09] y1uy : http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/726823/Britain-First-Bulgarian-militia-hunt-refugees should i join?
[2016-10-31 20:56:17] aethlios : every day increases to reach day 35 7200, total for first 35 days is 126000
[2016-10-31 20:56:31] gustavo7 : gonna launch DJT coin, no exchange rate cuz it's rigged anyway
[2016-10-31 20:56:45] wignodeer : after 35 days, zec will need more daily fiat support than bitcoin currently gets to sustain 0.58 price
[2016-10-31 20:56:46] laisee : wignodeer: this time its different .... ZEC >> BTC for noobs
[2016-10-31 20:57:15] aethlios : only 142 at polo asks, so manipulation easy
[2016-10-31 20:57:21] wignodeer : thats a lot of optimism for zec
[2016-10-31 20:58:18] RoftheN : I really hate how someone can just pump up the price and liquidate shorters only for it to go back to the former price an hour later
[2016-10-31 20:58:19] y1uy : lisk up soon
[2016-10-31 20:58:19] aethlios : also btc can be 900 on dec. 30, making things worse
[2016-10-31 20:58:38] messiaen8844 : RoftheN; welcome to the markets
[2016-10-31 20:58:47] messiaen8844 : that's 90% of the moves for ALL markets in the world
[2016-10-31 20:58:51] y1uy : RoftheN: its beutiful right?
[2016-10-31 20:59:05] messiaen8844 : try trading forex, it's even worse than crypto
[2016-10-31 20:59:14] laisee : free market in action :-)
[2016-10-31 20:59:15] kogroken : RoftheN: You can always trade unleveraged. That's way safer.
[2016-10-31 20:59:16] wignodeer : at this price you're really assuming that zec has become the mother of crypto in 35 days
[2016-10-31 20:59:19] RoftheN : But it's because people dont put enough sell orders
[2016-10-31 20:59:56] aili : 0.989000 7 22:31:42 Zec
[2016-10-31 21:00:02] RoftheN : We all know that ZEC is going down eventually, once the blockreward is over 5
[2016-10-31 21:00:06] aili : this guy got lucky
[2016-10-31 21:00:15] RoftheN : That guy is very lucky
[2016-10-31 21:00:16] aili : tomorrow he will have ~ 5 btc
[2016-10-31 21:00:54] RocketScience : Zec chart will be like steem on polo
[2016-10-31 21:01:00] RocketScience : "gloom and doom"
[2016-10-31 21:01:30] RocketScience : btc mega dump?
[2016-10-31 21:02:10] laisee : yes. part of the exit from BTC to ZEC under way nw
[2016-10-31 21:02:12] y1uy : RocketScience: i say consolidation
[2016-10-31 21:02:39] aethlios : tomorrow 1000 new coins, inflation 55%
[2016-10-31 21:02:43] RocketScience : for 1 day, week, 2 weeks?
[2016-10-31 21:03:08] RocketScience : i'm thinking about buying some alts...but it can move up anytime
[2016-10-31 21:03:27] aethlios : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/zcash-unleashes-trading-frenzy/ scroll down has a list
[2016-10-31 21:03:37] zecz : mine zec and short with all winnings, each strat
[2016-10-31 21:03:40] y1uy : RocketScience: US election in 9 days
[2016-10-31 21:03:44] zecz : easy*
[2016-10-31 21:03:54] RocketScience : trump up, hillary down
[2016-10-31 21:04:03] y1uy : RocketScience: +1
[2016-10-31 21:04:23] zexder : BitMEX_Greg: why my long position at entry 0.33 was auto-deleveraged at 0.57? It was about on 1.2x leverage only
[2016-10-31 21:04:26] aethlios : in 8 days will have 10X coins
[2016-10-31 21:04:33] mjmj83 : I just deposited 75 btc to be sure my liq price is above 10... scared chicken I am
[2016-10-31 21:04:50] BitMEX_Greg : zexder: Please take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-31 21:04:59] BitMEX_Greg : The formula is based on both leverage AND profit.
[2016-10-31 21:05:20] aethlios : in 24 hours new lows
[2016-10-31 21:05:54] wurstgelee : weird. polo doesnt seem to really dump, looks like prepping for next wave
[2016-10-31 21:06:03] wurstgelee : right now at least
[2016-10-31 21:06:06] zanza : how come people get ADL when insurance fund is not empty?
[2016-10-31 21:06:19] rx84 : ^^ Good Q
[2016-10-31 21:06:30] wurstgelee : cant be imo?
[2016-10-31 21:06:36] rfcdejong : fuc I should had kept my buy order on ZEC at 0.7 lol
[2016-10-31 21:06:41] kryptopojken : very good question
[2016-10-31 21:06:41] public username 321 : but why? This doesn't make sense.
[2016-10-31 21:06:43] CapitalGains : mjmj83: I take it you're going to short less than 7 ZEC contracts then? Obviously you don't want to take advice from strangers, but I'd recommend keeping some spare margin to short really high, at prices of 2-10 BTC.
[2016-10-31 21:07:29] laisee : correkt - ZEC going up b4 it crashes
[2016-10-31 21:07:58] RoftheN : polo going up again
[2016-10-31 21:08:05] mjmj83 : CapitalGains: already have a -11 position
[2016-10-31 21:08:34] aethlios : those rallies will happen again many times to keep hope alive, but rallies always from lower prices
[2016-10-31 21:08:48] laisee : POLO is YOLO land ... heading over 3
[2016-10-31 21:09:14] messiaen8844 : are we in for another round of liquidations?
[2016-10-31 21:09:26] y1uy : so many silly gooses
[2016-10-31 21:09:27] CapitalGains : mjmj83: Don't underestimate the Bitmex auto-liquidation short squeeze feedback mechanism. You might want to close 4.
[2016-10-31 21:09:59] mjmj83 : my liq price will be above 10 btc when my deposit arrives
[2016-10-31 21:10:10] wurstgelee : quick, pump to 10
[2016-10-31 21:10:12] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-31 21:10:13] CapitalGains : OK good good
[2016-10-31 21:10:31] mjmj83 : haha, good luck:)
[2016-10-31 21:10:35] CapitalGains : Hold the pump until my extra margin arrives, guys XD
[2016-10-31 21:10:40] mjmj83 : i'll deposit another 100 and short the hell out of it
[2016-10-31 21:10:46] rfcdejong : evil traders
[2016-10-31 21:10:53] EA_FTW : see a few are prepared with their shorts at 8 (liq price above 10!)
[2016-10-31 21:10:57] aethlios : with liq. above 10, you can sleep and profit long term an excellent return
[2016-10-31 21:11:04] mjmj83 : aethlios: word!
[2016-10-31 21:11:22] y1uy : mjmj83: good call
[2016-10-31 21:11:31] rfcdejong : ZEC won't go above 5 BTC is something I said when it went under, I still hold on to that :)
[2016-10-31 21:11:34] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: here is where grown up polo users go to fuck over each other until someone cries
[2016-10-31 21:11:38] wurstgelee : like a real family
[2016-10-31 21:11:38] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-31 21:11:47] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: lol
[2016-10-31 21:11:57] y1uy : 250BTC to BTC
[2016-10-31 21:12:01] y1uy : 5BTC
[2016-10-31 21:12:06] laisee : wurstgelee: "we are family!"
[2016-10-31 21:12:13] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-31 21:12:24] rfcdejong : I wonder what happens 30 december
[2016-10-31 21:12:49] wurstgelee : ill be still drunk from christmas and almost drunk from upcoming new years eve probably
[2016-10-31 21:12:54] messiaen8844 : my sell is ready at 9BTC
[2016-10-31 21:13:02] rfcdejong : :)
[2016-10-31 21:13:13] laisee : trump nukes scotland, becos golf permit delays
[2016-10-31 21:13:51] aethlios : most crazy contract in history that zecz16
[2016-10-31 21:14:10] wurstgelee : did i elready say that i am pissed my 1.5 zec withdrawal somehow got fucked up by suprnova? and never got sent?
[2016-10-31 21:14:21] wurstgelee : great timing...
[2016-10-31 21:14:22] wurstgelee : :/
[2016-10-31 21:14:32] mjmj83 : wurstgelee: i feel for you
[2016-10-31 21:14:35] mjmj83 : :(
[2016-10-31 21:14:36] y1uy : ZEC dpesmt want to stop going up
[2016-10-31 21:14:41] orly : umh, guys, 24h volume is well above 1k ZEC on polo, where is that announcement? :/
[2016-10-31 21:14:51] wurstgelee : mjmj83: i already broke even..so its fine
[2016-10-31 21:15:04] wurstgelee : would be free extra money
[2016-10-31 21:15:28] laisee : y1uy: +!
[2016-10-31 21:15:37] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: man it's tense. Nicehash fixed my username/address issue, but now waiting for confirmations on payment. got 0.6ZEC coming through to Polo, hope the dump doesn't happen first!
[2016-10-31 21:15:52] wurstgelee : laisee: first?
[2016-10-31 21:15:56] wurstgelee : did u check polko recently?
[2016-10-31 21:15:59] wurstgelee : *polo
[2016-10-31 21:16:06] wurstgelee : also @EA_FTW
[2016-10-31 21:16:22] laisee : thats a ++ on what y1uy says
[2016-10-31 21:16:39] wurstgelee : laisee: wrong highlight, wanted to tag EA guy
[2016-10-31 21:16:40] EA_FTW : Yeah, 9/24 confirms. The rest is still stuck on Nicehash waiting for confirms before they send
[2016-10-31 21:16:52] wurstgelee : oh, my bad
[2016-10-31 21:16:54] wurstgelee : misread
[2016-10-31 21:17:00] y1uy : EA_FTW: i couldnt do anythin with my 20Sol :(
[2016-10-31 21:17:02] wurstgelee : i read "i hope the pump doesnt happen fist"
[2016-10-31 21:17:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 21:17:04] EA_FTW : hoping to get a rate of atleast 2BTC/ZEC :-)
[2016-10-31 21:17:19] laisee : wurstgelee: np
[2016-10-31 21:17:32] EA_FTW : y1uy: dude, I bought 100kSol for 1BTC on nichash (burnt through it in 2 hours and got 1.8ZEC for it!)
[2016-10-31 21:17:42] EA_FTW : *nicehash
[2016-10-31 21:18:13] y1uy : EA_FTW: oh damn, didnt know u can buy it from there, but great job. I made like $2-3 mining it :D
[2016-10-31 21:18:38] EA_FTW : Yeah, I couldn't get my old ETH miner going :-(
[2016-10-31 21:19:06] EA_FTW : y1uy: nicehash was @wurstgelee 's idea from this morning :-)
[2016-10-31 21:19:19] y1uy : EA_FTW: When did u start mining?
[2016-10-31 21:19:26] EA_FTW : Price has now gone up to match Polo
[2016-10-31 21:19:33] wurstgelee : was worth a try and worked out beautifully
[2016-10-31 21:19:39] y1uy : Nice nice
[2016-10-31 21:19:43] EA_FTW : Started mining around 3pm (price was 0.12 then and is now 0.4)
[2016-10-31 21:19:48] Rado : EA_FTW: you better sell it while you can
[2016-10-31 21:19:49] wurstgelee : even with those vanished 1.5 ...
[2016-10-31 21:19:50] wurstgelee : grmpf
[2016-10-31 21:20:03] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: still have a fixed order running
[2016-10-31 21:20:05] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 21:20:07] wurstgelee : for .15
[2016-10-31 21:20:09] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 21:20:16] EA_FTW : Obviously didn't expect the pump! So nice surprise
[2016-10-31 21:20:21] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: sweet
[2016-10-31 21:20:38] y1uy : EA_FTW: planning on buying more mining power? :D
[2016-10-31 21:20:39] EA_FTW : Rado: Trying to. Still waiting for confirms..
[2016-10-31 21:21:18] CapitalGains : Don't think I'll be sleeping tonight
[2016-10-31 21:21:29] EA_FTW : y1uy: probably not at this price. Might put another order in after this pump when it dies down, and then hope for another pump (but could also buy low on Polo I guess)
[2016-10-31 21:21:52] EA_FTW : Imagine that the arbitrage opportunity between nicehash and Polo is more widely known now
[2016-10-31 21:22:39] y1uy : EA_FTW: bit of a gamble
[2016-10-31 21:22:58] EA_FTW : Yeah, always is I guess!
[2016-10-31 21:23:12] EA_FTW : Order books filling up on Polo and still stuck on 13/24 confirms..
[2016-10-31 21:23:44] EA_FTW : The rest is probably 2 hours away!
[2016-10-31 21:24:00] y1uy : Zcash is a slow one...
[2016-10-31 21:24:26] y1uy : Well, zcash is doing a bit of a deadcat bounce, will reteset 2btc
[2016-10-31 21:25:13] EA_FTW : What do you think marketcap will be on Dec 30th?
[2016-10-31 21:25:20] aethlios : what pool are you using for zcash? where is located?
[2016-10-31 21:25:30] zecz : whats "Cross" in the leverage-scale?
[2016-10-31 21:26:40] y1uy : $80-100M
[2016-10-31 21:26:55] laisee : per ZEC?
[2016-10-31 21:27:04] laisee : ;-)
[2016-10-31 21:27:06] y1uy : marketcap ^
[2016-10-31 21:27:06] EA_FTW : stratum, which is nicehash's pool. You can do it all from the nicehash.com website @aethlios
[2016-10-31 21:28:01] aethlios : EA_FTW: don't you need a pool to connect the nice hash power?
[2016-10-31 21:28:23] y1uy : zCash is a good investment no doubt, although i dont like it's technology. But a lot of rich people behind it to make it a good investment.
[2016-10-31 21:28:35] y1uy : but at these prices? HELL TO THE NAWW
[2016-10-31 21:28:43] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: zec returned to acc, traying to send again
[2016-10-31 21:28:45] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 21:28:58] MrRGnome : It's remarkable how many senseless nubs zcash brings out of the woodworks
[2016-10-31 21:29:03] EA_FTW : aethlios: they've got their own one and a promo that you can just click to get all fields filled in
[2016-10-31 21:29:45] aethlios : EA_FTW: I mined with them 1 year ago, they didn't have a pool then, ok thanks
[2016-10-31 21:29:47] EA_FTW : wurstgelee: oh no. I'm on 16/24 confirms on Polo..
[2016-10-31 21:29:48] zecz : I think the bubble is over for this time
[2016-10-31 21:29:54] zecz : going to crash very hard soon
[2016-10-31 21:29:58] zecz : didnt reach over 3 btc
[2016-10-31 21:30:41] y1uy : zecz: yup
[2016-10-31 21:30:57] EA_FTW : just... 20... more... minutes...
[2016-10-31 21:31:18] EA_FTW : make that 10! 4 confirms. HOLD!!
[2016-10-31 21:31:22] zecz : here we go
[2016-10-31 21:31:55] EA_FTW : ...Nooooooooo
[2016-10-31 21:32:05] gustavo7 : you nostradamus
[2016-10-31 21:32:17] y1uy : EA_FTW: you'll probably make some profit
[2016-10-31 21:32:25] orly : EA_FTW: is that desperate buy wall yours on polo? :D
[2016-10-31 21:32:49] EA_FTW : yeah, price only needs to be 1.5 for me to get my 1BTC back (and that's with 1/3 of the ZEC mined!)
[2016-10-31 21:33:05] EA_FTW : orly: no, I'm no whale
[2016-10-31 21:34:22] EA_FTW : 1 confirm left..
[2016-10-31 21:34:41] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: almost... :)
[2016-10-31 21:35:15] laisee : spend ur winnings @ bitmex ;-)
[2016-10-31 21:37:15] EA_FTW : this must be the longest block ever..
[2016-10-31 21:38:01] wurstgelee : lol...2nd sending attempt didnt go through again....
[2016-10-31 21:38:11] wurstgelee : at least i have contact to support now
[2016-10-31 21:38:18] wurstgelee : but well, too late anyways..
[2016-10-31 21:38:25] wurstgelee : gonna dump for 1 prob
[2016-10-31 21:38:38] EA_FTW : 1.5BTC, nice!:-)
[2016-10-31 21:38:45] wurstgelee : its fine ;)
[2016-10-31 21:38:55] EA_FTW : Now for the other 1.2ZEC... (will probably be about 1-2 hours)
[2016-10-31 21:39:10] EA_FTW : so 0.5BTC profit so far, can't complain
[2016-10-31 21:43:50] aili : 5иес on polo here we come
[2016-10-31 21:43:54] aili : btc
[2016-10-31 21:43:56] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-10-31 21:44:00] wurstgelee : IT HIT THE CHAIN
[2016-10-31 21:44:08] wurstgelee : ok polo, iput my faith in you
[2016-10-31 21:44:13] wurstgelee : 3.2 @ polo
[2016-10-31 21:44:14] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 21:44:44] negamax : wurstgelee: did you sell at 3.2?
[2016-10-31 21:45:05] wurstgelee : negamax: i would love to but my withdrawal was stcuk for ~ 3 @ suprnova
[2016-10-31 21:45:10] wurstgelee : finally just got sent
[2016-10-31 21:45:22] wurstgelee : now i have to wait for 24 blocks...
[2016-10-31 21:45:31] wurstgelee : will most likely be all over until then
[2016-10-31 21:45:39] negamax : 2 minutes blocks so under an hour?
[2016-10-31 21:45:40] wurstgelee : but at least 1+ figure
[2016-10-31 21:45:44] imabeast : double top
[2016-10-31 21:45:46] wurstgelee : negamax: 2 minutes?
[2016-10-31 21:46:14] negamax : wurstgelee: I mixed zec with xmr
[2016-10-31 21:46:26] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 21:46:37] negamax : :D
[2016-10-31 21:47:38] coinrun : Not a beast to be shorted yet
[2016-10-31 21:49:03] zecz : had to fill my short
[2016-10-31 21:49:04] gustavo7 : that candle is stupid
[2016-10-31 21:49:30] zecz : people on polo are crazy :) shouldnt gamble on this
[2016-10-31 21:49:49] y1uy : i wish bitmex had more liquidity :(
[2016-10-31 21:49:55] laisee : people == bots
[2016-10-31 21:50:00] RocketScience : selling xbt/susd swap 702.6, someone buy so i can go sleep ^^
[2016-10-31 21:50:06] RocketScience : give me liquidityyy
[2016-10-31 21:50:44] EA_FTW : Wow, typical - panic sold as soon as, and now it's up 20% ;-) @wurstgelee you're might come in at the absolute peak at this rate
[2016-10-31 21:51:12] y1uy : anyone here into Antshares?
[2016-10-31 21:51:12] wurstgelee : EA_FTW: at these prices i would panic dump mined coins any time tbh
[2016-10-31 21:51:45] EA_FTW : Indeed, 400% or 500% profit, 400 is good enough!
[2016-10-31 21:53:09] wurstgelee : exactly ;)
[2016-10-31 21:54:51] RocketScience : @bitmex What about Chinese yuan 100x?
[2016-10-31 21:55:39] CapitalGains : Things are suddenly very quite here on ZEC16... it's as if the difference between 1 and 3 BTC on Polo is meaningless for 2 month futures (which it pretty much is)
[2016-10-31 21:56:33] gustavo7 : oh great my chart froze thats why my candle looked funny
[2016-10-31 21:58:15] mjmj83 : How is it possible my liq price changes without doing any trades?
[2016-10-31 21:58:30] mjmj83 : Only a little bit, but it changes.
[2016-10-31 21:58:57] CapitalGains : mjmj83: It's calculated with the last trade value
[2016-10-31 21:59:28] mjmj83 : That shouldn't change my liq price, right?
[2016-10-31 21:59:34] BitMEX_Sam : mjmj83: Do you have multiple positions open?
[2016-10-31 21:59:47] mjmj83 : No, only 1 on ZECZ16
[2016-10-31 22:00:14] mjmj83 : It jumped from 11.20 to 11.97
[2016-10-31 22:00:14] sleger : maybe you are placing other orders
[2016-10-31 22:00:26] sleger : or canceling some
[2016-10-31 22:00:53] Mm bot : BitMEX_Sam: when are you updating ZEC marking price, polo hit 2000/ZEC trading in last 34 hours
[2016-10-31 22:01:03] mjmj83 : No.. i just tried to cancell some orders and that changed it for 1-2 sec. And then it turned back to old liq price.
[2016-10-31 22:01:09] BitMEX_Sam : Mm bot: We specified that only as a minimum criteria, please see the chat archive
[2016-10-31 22:01:14] BitMEX_Sam : We have been through this many times.
[2016-10-31 22:02:46] aethlios : keep it for a week, only a few coins on asks polo, manipulators are in a party
[2016-10-31 22:03:56] zecz : lol time to go long, fuck
[2016-10-31 22:04:00] QuantFocus : how do we get in on these polo pump groups. seems like fun
[2016-10-31 22:04:38] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: If you have cross margin enabled for your ZECZ16 position then your account Available Balance will affect your liquidation price.
[2016-10-31 22:06:01] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: or Margin Balance (incl. unrealised PNL)?
[2016-10-31 22:06:52] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: ADL is triggered quicker for low leverage than high leverage when PnL is negative?
[2016-10-31 22:07:09] mjmj83 : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks, but I still don't really get it. Most important thing to know before I go to sleep: if it right now says Liq price 11,20. There's no way I get liquidated at ZEC16 tonight, correct?
[2016-10-31 22:07:20] BitMEX_Wally : Available Balance, but as the position suffers losses the cross margin feature will top it up the margin.
[2016-10-31 22:07:23] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: Yes you are correct
[2016-10-31 22:07:56] RocketScience : 10 cap is righteous and rational
[2016-10-31 22:07:58] BitMEX_Wally : shapeshifter: We always prioritise high leverage
[2016-10-31 22:08:02] mjmj83 : BitMEX_Wally: And then Liq price is calculated again and small differences can occur?
[2016-10-31 22:08:16] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: confused Wallet Balance with Available Balance...
[2016-10-31 22:08:21] BitMEX_Wally : mjmj83: Yes, small changes
[2016-10-31 22:08:29] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: = PNL Percentage / Effective Leverage (if PNL percentage < 0)
[2016-10-31 22:08:43] mjmj83 : last hit of 0.77.. it changes for 1 sec and gets back to as it was
[2016-10-31 22:08:55] mjmj83 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2016-10-31 22:09:03] shapeshifter : if you divide by the leverage it seems high leverage gets liquidated after low leverage
[2016-10-31 22:09:13] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-31 22:09:24] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: yes thats where am looking
[2016-10-31 22:09:28] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: = PNL Percentage / Effective Leverage (if PNL percentage < 0)
[2016-10-31 22:09:40] BitMEX_Wally : It's a negative number divided by leverage
[2016-10-31 22:10:00] shapeshifter : so what? @BitMEX_Wally
[2016-10-31 22:10:07] BitMEX_Wally : So your ranking is still high if you have high leverage
[2016-10-31 22:10:29] shapeshifter : if i divide PNL Percentage
[2016-10-31 22:10:37] shapeshifter : by leverage
[2016-10-31 22:10:45] shapeshifter : ranking is lower for high leverage
[2016-10-31 22:10:50] BitMEX_Wally : No
[2016-10-31 22:10:51] lockhedge : shapeshifter: so yes, if you increase leverage on negative pnl, you can get ranked lower
[2016-10-31 22:10:52] BitMEX_Wally : Because it is a negative number
[2016-10-31 22:11:22] shapeshifter : BitMEX_Wally: so ranking are negative as well?
[2016-10-31 22:11:33] shapeshifter : this makes no sense
[2016-10-31 22:11:37] BitMEX_Wally : Ranking is a number. Negative numbers rank lower than positive numbers
[2016-10-31 22:11:44] shapeshifter : ok
[2016-10-31 22:11:53] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: are you planning to switch XBJ to Quoine or stay on LastPriceProtected marking?
[2016-10-31 22:13:51] BitMEX_Wally : We are planning to create an index with more than 1 exchange
[2016-10-31 22:14:23] KingLISK : I know it says in your announcment "at Bitmex's discretion", but both the condidtions have been reached (unless I am unaware of something..), and traders like me have taken out a position with the thought that it would go to mark once polo reached those 1000 sec traded. Do you guys have an estimate on when it will be marked?
[2016-10-31 22:14:33] miramm1115 : weighted by volume like XBT?
[2016-10-31 22:14:53] BitMEX_Sam : KingLISK: Setting an exchange as the index will not significantly affect price
[2016-10-31 22:15:02] lrs13 : How long for btc depost=