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[2016-10-31 19:36:21] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: we cannot mark it straight away as it hits 1000. This needs to be shown consistently.
[2016-10-31 19:36:21] zecz : maybe its going to stable here and raise for a couple of days
[2016-10-31 19:37:31] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: why didnt u write that into your statement? this way it looks like its a made up spontaneous excuse to not mark it...
[2016-10-31 19:38:51] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: The statement said that it was at our discretion, and it certainly did not say that we would immediately announce intent to mark as soon as volume was over 1000 ZEC.
[2016-10-31 19:39:03] BitMEX_Sam : Be patient.
[2016-10-31 19:39:36] sleger : only 3 coins have 1000btc of volume on polo
[2016-10-31 19:39:45] zecz : whats the deal about "mark it"? why does it matter ?
[2016-10-31 19:39:45] jordanbitfort : wurst go trade it on woodchipper if u think it will go up so much lol
[2016-10-31 19:40:09] lopol : When ZEC contantly gets 1000 volume is the mark price completely poloniex price or some combination?
[2016-10-31 19:40:15] BitMEX_Sam : It doesn't matter that much @zecz.
[2016-10-31 19:40:19] wurstgelee : lopol: combination
[2016-10-31 19:40:24] sleger : 1000zec volume is only possible if zec goes down
[2016-10-31 19:40:25] BitMEX_Sam : lopol: See https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/note-on-zec-price-cap/
[2016-10-31 19:40:28] wurstgelee : marking wont cause instant liquidations
[2016-10-31 19:40:44] NL007 : sleger: or supply grow
[2016-10-31 19:40:55] zecz : its just which exchange the price will be taken from 31 dec?
[2016-10-31 19:40:59] sleger : NL007: supply will grow that's not even a question
[2016-10-31 19:41:01] zecz : for cash settlements
[2016-10-31 19:41:04] wurstgelee : sleger: yes. that.
[2016-10-31 19:41:34] NL007 : sleger: the more coins mined the more sells
[2016-10-31 19:41:36] wurstgelee : it cant keep 1000 zec volume other than dumping
[2016-10-31 19:41:48] wurstgelee : if it stays there, on that level, volume will die down
[2016-10-31 19:42:22] NL007 : 1015 zec volume
[2016-10-31 19:42:39] wurstgelee : if consistently is a criteria you could as well translate it with "it will be marked when zec dumped and stays down for a longer period of time"
[2016-10-31 19:42:45] zecz : why are you afraid of zecz16 getting marked to polo?
[2016-10-31 19:42:50] wurstgelee : dunno
[2016-10-31 19:42:56] HostFat_ : BitMEX_Greg
[2016-10-31 19:42:56] HostFat_ : 24hr Volume: 905.44118494 BTC / 1015.47948968 ZEC
[2016-10-31 19:43:01] wurstgelee : they just dont want to it seems ;)
[2016-10-31 19:43:06] prospecta : mark to polo 2016!
[2016-10-31 19:43:06] BitMEX_Greg : HostFat_: Point being?\
[2016-10-31 19:43:07] HjP : jordanbitfort, what is woodchipper?
[2016-10-31 19:43:42] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: how can zec possible keep 1000 zec volume if its traded above 1 btc or even higher?
[2016-10-31 19:43:48] wurstgelee : without dumping?
[2016-10-31 19:43:52] wurstgelee : *pissibly
[2016-10-31 19:43:54] wurstgelee : jbfdkjdfF
[2016-10-31 19:43:58] wurstgelee : possibly
[2016-10-31 19:43:59] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 19:44:24] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: Can you try again? I don't understand the question
[2016-10-31 19:44:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: imagine zec stays where it is
[2016-10-31 19:44:42] wurstgelee : 1.4 btc per zec
[2016-10-31 19:44:43] wurstgelee : right now
[2016-10-31 19:44:52] wurstgelee : and it happens that it stabilizes there...the price
[2016-10-31 19:45:02] lopol : wurstgelee: but it wont
[2016-10-31 19:45:06] wurstgelee : its impossible that it keeps that volume - 1000zec - it has reached nnow
[2016-10-31 19:45:16] BitMEX_Greg : I disagree entirely
[2016-10-31 19:45:23] wurstgelee : lopol: my point is, the requirement cant be met if its sideways or up
[2016-10-31 19:45:29] BitMEX_Greg : Just because there is price stability doesn't mean trades don't happen
[2016-10-31 19:45:37] zecz : volume will ofc go up, there is just 1500 ZEC out there
[2016-10-31 19:45:57] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: thats obvious. u dont agree that 1000 zec volume can be reached a lot easier when its down than when its up? btc wise?
[2016-10-31 19:46:01] wurstgelee : lol?
[2016-10-31 19:46:28] zecz : why does it matter wurst?
[2016-10-31 19:46:41] wurstgelee : 1000 zec @ .1 btc-> 100 btc. 1000 zec @ 1 btc -> 1000 btc?
[2016-10-31 19:46:46] wurstgelee : see the difference? ;)
[2016-10-31 19:46:53] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: Yes and what's your point
[2016-10-31 19:46:58] zecz : why does it matter?
[2016-10-31 19:47:15] zecz : mark or not marked, I dont understand
[2016-10-31 19:47:46] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: that your consistently 100 zec volume cant be met while zec is expensive. which means it will be marked once it dumped. not earlier. a consistent volume would only make sense btc-wise
[2016-10-31 19:47:53] wurstgelee : as criteria
[2016-10-31 19:48:00] wurstgelee : *1000 zec volume
[2016-10-31 19:48:52] wurstgelee : got my point now? ;)
[2016-10-31 19:49:01] zecz : if its unmarked it wont settle for cash at a given rate?
[2016-10-31 19:49:12] zecz : in dec 16*
[2016-10-31 19:49:15] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: if you dont understand his point here is a simpler comparison : volume of btcusd on exchanges, is much higher in btc when btc is low. What matters is USD volume for BTCUSD. For ZECBTC what matters is BTC volume not zec
[2016-10-31 19:49:27] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-31 19:49:55] BitMEX_Sam : We decided that ZEC was a more important metric due to the outlandish prices it was originally trading at
[2016-10-31 19:50:11] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: you see where the problem is tho?
[2016-10-31 19:50:16] wurstgelee : with that?
[2016-10-31 19:50:17] BitMEX_Sam : The point is that we want to wait until trading reaches stability and the supply shock is over.
[2016-10-31 19:50:33] sleger : volume in USD is much more constant that volume in USD for BTCUSD dont you agree ?
[2016-10-31 19:50:53] BitMEX_Sam : Please read what I just said. We considered it more important that healthy supply is present
[2016-10-31 19:51:10] BitMEX_Sam : The point is, we don't want to mark to an index that will jump hundreds of a percent at a time because there isn't enough supply for it to trade sanely.
[2016-10-31 19:51:19] BitMEX_Sam : This is what we saw in the first two days, especially.
[2016-10-31 19:51:19] wurstgelee : why didnt u decide that marking will happen at x total supply in the first place?
[2016-10-31 19:51:27] wurstgelee : why so complicated?
[2016-10-31 19:51:28] sleger : well I read you said it was a decision, i just dont think it makes sense, for the reasons i explained
[2016-10-31 19:51:30] BitMEX_Sam : Because the leading market could change.
[2016-10-31 19:51:36] BitMEX_Sam : What is so complicated about 1000 ZEC per day wurstgelee?
[2016-10-31 19:51:41] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: i was talking toal supply mined
[2016-10-31 19:51:46] sleger : for instance, even when ZEC was trading at absurd prices, the BTC volume was very low
[2016-10-31 19:51:50] BitMEX_Sam : This is our decision, and it is final, and the actual choice to mark is also at our own discretion.
[2016-10-31 19:51:50] wurstgelee : not total supply on any exchange
[2016-10-31 19:52:01] prospecta : meanwhile ZEC starts pumping again
[2016-10-31 19:52:07] wurstgelee : prospecta: :D
[2016-10-31 19:52:34] zecz : 1000 zec / day is not that much
[2016-10-31 19:52:36] sleger : even a $ volume limit would make more sense than a zec limit
[2016-10-31 19:52:41] BitMEX_Sam : Let me further reiterate that the two conditions are simply minimum criteria - we did not say that once both these are reached, we will immediately mark.
[2016-10-31 19:52:44] zecz : wait a couple of weeks
[2016-10-31 19:52:52] BitMEX_Sam : Just be patient and wait for the market to settle out.
[2016-10-31 19:53:25] zecz : BitMEX_Sam: what happends if the contract doesn't get marked?
[2016-10-31 19:53:46] sleger : we understand that you made those rules in a rush and therefore they are not the best, so we're just trying to explain why, you know, for next time
[2016-10-31 19:53:49] BitMEX_Sam : zecz: Nothing.
[2016-10-31 19:54:03] prospecta : haha
[2016-10-31 19:54:04] BitMEX_Sam : We committed to marking by Dec 1 so that there is a definite price target for the Dec 30 settlement.
[2016-10-31 19:54:25] prospecta : I smell a rat
[2016-10-31 19:54:39] sleger : and by "by Dec 1" you mean <= Dec 1, not == Dec1 ?
[2016-10-31 19:54:49] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam, you can suspect that new coins hyped like zcash will follow in the future, so you need to be more prepared next time!!! so we can trade more safely.
[2016-10-31 19:55:22] BitMEX_Sam : I'm sure all of you are aware that this is an entirely new situation, and yes, some of these specs will be better fleshed-out in the future.
[2016-10-31 19:55:26] zecz : I guess the price target will be the spot price from polo
[2016-10-31 19:55:44] coinrun : 1070.62043025 ZEC
[2016-10-31 19:56:00] BitMEX_Sam : sleger: We mean "by Dec 1", as in by the end of day Dec 1.
[2016-10-31 19:56:00] sleger : thanks again for that 8th decimal
[2016-10-31 19:56:05] BitMEX_Greg : lol
[2016-10-31 19:56:08] NL007 : 1,7brc zec
[2016-10-31 19:56:12] NL007 : btc
[2016-10-31 19:56:16] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: just don't be afraid to launch first the next future before the coin goes to spot
[2016-10-31 19:59:56] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: would it be possible to preview the index/fair basis based mark price somewhere? so ppl can get used to it (figure out how it works) before it is in force
[2016-10-31 19:59:57] aethlios : no real bulls here to follow zcah spot.
[2016-10-31 20:00:48] sleger : aethlios: well rapid is AFK at the moment
[2016-10-31 20:01:03] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Have a look at `fairPrice` on the instrument table
[2016-10-31 20:01:38] BitMEX_Wally : That's currently taking the Poloniex price and applying a -350% annualised basis
[2016-10-31 20:01:44] prospecta : if sleger just settled down we'd be ok
[2016-10-31 20:01:56] wurstgelee : cheap zec at polo again. only 1.63. get them while they're hot
[2016-10-31 20:02:53] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: great, thanks! is fair basis based on impact mid price or is it currently manually set?
[2016-10-31 20:03:29] BitMEX_Wally : It was manually set, this number will change
[2016-10-31 20:03:30] gustavo7 : what the zec
[2016-10-31 20:04:25] Yuppie : I really don't get the discussion here
[2016-10-31 20:04:55] BitMEX_Wally : IF we used impact mid price then the basis should be -480%
[2016-10-31 20:04:59] gustavo7 : tbh why is noone following the index?
[2016-10-31 20:05:18] sleger : LOL at Z16
[2016-10-31 20:05:29] sleger : 784.17 3568
[2016-10-31 20:05:30] Yuppie : What does it matter which Index is going to be used to settle the future? We are talking about probably +/- 0.05BTC depending on the exchange
[2016-10-31 20:05:41] BitMEX_Wally : Yuppie: Correct
[2016-10-31 20:05:46] aethlios : if someone had 10.000 btc here, and placed a wall at 2 btc for zcash when polo was 1000, then noone could break the wall and would make a bargain 48 hours ago.
[2016-10-31 20:05:48] wurstgelee : sleger: wtf
[2016-10-31 20:06:26] BitMEX_Wally : All this discussion and we're only talking about a mark price which calculates unrealised PNL. The actual index for settlement will be confirmed on 1 December
[2016-10-31 20:06:49] aethlios : sold 5 0.395, thanks
[2016-10-31 20:06:52] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: looks like someone again trying to manipulate Z16 in low liquidity in order book
[2016-10-31 20:07:18] justinlooking : let em ;)
[2016-10-31 20:07:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yet it didn't affect mark, so they just lost $
[2016-10-31 20:07:25] BitMEX_Sam : More likely a fat finger
[2016-10-31 20:07:27] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: that is all correct , thats not necessarily how herd instinct works tho
[2016-10-31 20:07:32] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-31 20:07:33] RocketScience : WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN XBT USD
[2016-10-31 20:07:36] Formiga : Can I block people here in the chat?
[2016-10-31 20:07:36] RocketScience : sorry caps
[2016-10-31 20:07:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 12 @ 0.411804
[2016-10-31 20:07:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.424341
[2016-10-31 20:07:44] BitMEX_Sam : Formiga: Unfortunately no
[2016-10-31 20:07:46] RocketScience : who bought all the way up?
[2016-10-31 20:07:53] kogroken : Nothing to see here, just a $40 dollar blip
[2016-10-31 20:07:56] BitMEX_Wally : Every other futures exchange just marks to the last price of the future, yet here we are trying to mark to fair price to prevent liquidations and we get a load of grief
[2016-10-31 20:07:56] wurstgelee : oh...suprise.. .:D
[2016-10-31 20:08:16] justinlooking : Formiga, i will sell u some js that blocks rapidtrades ;)
[2016-10-31 20:08:18] wurstgelee : all the way?
[2016-10-31 20:08:31] wurstgelee : single orders...
[2016-10-31 20:08:36] wurstgelee : mostly
[2016-10-31 20:09:17] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: IMHO just mark to LastPriceProtected and forget about it, let people trade how they want
[2016-10-31 20:09:28] RocketScience : market maker died on dec 30
[2016-10-31 20:09:29] gustavo7 : BitMEX_Wally: how about making ZCASH contracts smaller?
[2016-10-31 20:09:36] RocketScience : explain someoneee
[2016-10-31 20:09:38] BitMEX_Wally : miramm1115: I am very tempted :)
[2016-10-31 20:09:43] wurstgelee : lol. wtf happened with z16 orderbook
[2016-10-31 20:09:49] RocketScience : mira market maker jump in dec 30
[2016-10-31 20:09:52] wurstgelee : did some bot run amok?
[2016-10-31 20:10:01] wurstgelee : its empty
[2016-10-31 20:10:03] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-31 20:10:13] BitMEX_Wally : LastPriceProtected only works if there is a stable FairPrice, and due to the basis swings and lack of underlying index we can't do that for ZECZ16 yet
[2016-10-31 20:10:15] RocketScience : haha it bought up to 780 :D
[2016-10-31 20:10:31] wurstgelee : wtf..seriously
[2016-10-31 20:10:43] wurstgelee : prob got some wrong data ;)
[2016-10-31 20:10:51] sleger : got some : XBTZ16 666 -666 0 776.66
[2016-10-31 20:10:57] RocketScience : btc 10000 in china?
[2016-10-31 20:11:04] wurstgelee : sleger: me too, thanks to u. a lot later tho ;)
[2016-10-31 20:11:21] sleger : i sold 50k also after but at 742.x
[2016-10-31 20:11:45] RocketScience : i welcome tht glitch with open arms
[2016-10-31 20:11:52] wurstgelee : i'll take free 25% in 5 mins any day
[2016-10-31 20:11:54] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 20:12:41] wurstgelee : 1.9 @ polo
[2016-10-31 20:12:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 20:13:42] elfix : 2
[2016-10-31 20:13:50] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-10-31 20:13:56] kryptopojken : pumpage
[2016-10-31 20:14:39] EA_FTW : Bloody hell, my about-to-be-burnt nicehash fortune is growing by the minute, and the pool operator is still busy..
[2016-10-31 20:14:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.449763
[2016-10-31 20:15:03] gustavo7 : yolo
[2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.467500
[2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 94 @ 0.457113
[2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 7 @ 0.460069
[2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.472885
[2016-10-31 20:15:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.465094
[2016-10-31 20:15:17] sleger : gustavo7: nice
[2016-10-31 20:15:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.486925
[2016-10-31 20:15:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.522606
[2016-10-31 20:15:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 10 @ 0.524523
[2016-10-31 20:15:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 41 @ 0.534582
[2016-10-31 20:15:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.547750
[2016-10-31 20:16:01] fsec : LOL 133 buy wall
[2016-10-31 20:16:08] gustavo7 : squeeze
[2016-10-31 20:16:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.550000
[2016-10-31 20:16:45] Yuppie : ZEC is going to be brutal
[2016-10-31 20:16:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.561750
[2016-10-31 20:16:54] coinrun : cough.
[2016-10-31 20:16:54] sleger : people help buy at 65
[2016-10-31 20:17:09] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-31 20:17:14] wurstgelee : thank you ADL
[2016-10-31 20:17:17] wurstgelee : FREE MONEY
[2016-10-31 20:17:18] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 20:17:42] Rado : rapitrades not here?
[2016-10-31 20:17:51] khessabi2 : bitmex clos my ZEC long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2016-10-31 20:17:53] wurstgelee : Rado: repid longed from 3
[2016-10-31 20:17:53] sleger : banned for 3rd time
[2016-10-31 20:17:55] khessabi2 : wtf
[2016-10-31 20:18:02] wurstgelee : khessabi2: ADL, youre welcome
[2016-10-31 20:18:14] Rado : thanks
[2016-10-31 20:18:14] khessabi2 : what is adl
[2016-10-31 20:18:16] BitMEX_Wally : There was no ADL, it got filled
[2016-10-31 20:18:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: thats not true
[2016-10-31 20:18:42] aethlios : opened 5 more 0.55, thanks
[2016-10-31 20:18:43] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, my bad
[2016-10-31 20:18:44] Rado : why is the spot price going up?
[2016-10-31 20:18:45] Rado : fomo?
[2016-10-31 20:18:46] wurstgelee : i got deleverage by 26 of 26 conts
[2016-10-31 20:18:49] wurstgelee : ....
[2016-10-31 20:18:52] BitMEX_Wally : There was 48 contracts deleveraged
[2016-10-31 20:19:03] wurstgelee : lol fuck
[2016-10-31 20:19:07] wurstgelee : i was 1x
[2016-10-31 20:19:09] khessabi2 : I wtf is delaveraged
[2016-10-31 20:19:18] Yuppie : Sorry first time here..why was my contract "deleveraged"?
[2016-10-31 20:19:23] aili : omg all over again)
[2016-10-31 20:19:23] wurstgelee : how could i have all 26 at highest qeue?
[2016-10-31 20:19:27] wurstgelee : :/
[2016-10-31 20:19:29] sleger : khessabi2: you ever saw the rabbit magic trick ?
[2016-10-31 20:19:29] aili : poor zec traders
[2016-10-31 20:19:40] sleger : imagine your position is the rabbit
[2016-10-31 20:20:12] Rado : wurstgelee: what price did you get?
[2016-10-31 20:20:20] khessabi2 : sleger: come on!!....I bought 7 zec on 0.4.....but bitmex close it...why
[2016-10-31 20:20:24] Rado : you can get back in at that price maybe
[2016-10-31 20:20:27] wurstgelee : i am glad we have no marking to an unstable volatile marking like polo has. instead we have safe last price marking :p
[2016-10-31 20:20:32] wurstgelee : Rado: .33 average
[2016-10-31 20:20:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 5 @ 0.603750
[2016-10-31 20:20:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.634375
[2016-10-31 20:20:34] BitMEX_Wally : Please excuse me, I read the log wrong. It was 270 contracts deleveraged at 0.5793225
[2016-10-31 20:20:36] sleger : khessabi2: cause it was the rabbit
[2016-10-31 20:20:51] Rado : wurstgelee: no, what was your ADL price
[2016-10-31 20:21:03] wurstgelee : Rado: what wally just said
[2016-10-31 20:21:15] Rado : right
[2016-10-31 20:21:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.792917
[2016-10-31 20:21:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 11 @ 0.779887
[2016-10-31 20:21:24] RocketScience : zeeeec
[2016-10-31 20:21:24] zexder : WHERE IS MY POSITION???
[2016-10-31 20:21:24] numero : so, operation fury anyone?
[2016-10-31 20:21:28] khessabi2 : sleger: what?
[2016-10-31 20:21:30] sleger : zexder: rabbit
[2016-10-31 20:21:38] sleger : khessabi2: it's gone !!
[2016-10-31 20:21:44] Yuppie : sorry but do I pay off shorts with the deleveaging?
[2016-10-31 20:22:00] wurstgelee : Yuppie: you get your position closed with a profit
[2016-10-31 20:22:13] sleger : Yuppie: you help shorts close out
[2016-10-31 20:22:14] wurstgelee : thats the alternative to classic clawback
[2016-10-31 20:22:15] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-31 20:22:31] BitMEX_Greg : zexder: You should have received an email
[2016-10-31 20:22:55] wurstgelee : my great .33 entry.... gone with the wind. cheap :'|
[2016-10-31 20:23:02] sleger : Open Interest 320 <= still all those to liquidate
[2016-10-31 20:23:06] Yuppie : ok I get it
[2016-10-31 20:23:14] Rado : wurstgelee: you made a good amount
[2016-10-31 20:23:19] messiaen8844 : nice play
[2016-10-31 20:23:19] wurstgelee : Rado: yes ofc
[2016-10-31 20:23:22] wurstgelee : i am good
[2016-10-31 20:23:25] wurstgelee : easy mony ;)
[2016-10-31 20:23:28] wurstgelee : money
[2016-10-31 20:23:31] Rado : keep in mind it's not easy to sell without ADL
[2016-10-31 20:23:36] Rado : look at the bids
[2016-10-31 20:23:41] RocketScience : Who bought 400k dec 30 btc contracts up to 780?!?!
[2016-10-31 20:23:44] zecz : can u get your position auto-closed even when u make profit?
[2016-10-31 20:23:45] wurstgelee : if only suprnova would send my 1.5 zec withdrawal now....
[2016-10-31 20:24:04] wurstgelee : zecz: short answer: yes
[2016-10-31 20:24:12] zecz : why?
[2016-10-31 20:24:16] RoftheN : Oh I got liquidated
[2016-10-31 20:24:17] RoftheN : how sad
[2016-10-31 20:24:23] wurstgelee : long answer: read link posted above
[2016-10-31 20:24:38] negamax : RocketScience: it was a bug in Bitmex or something really odd happened. I closed 15k at market.. :S
[2016-10-31 20:24:39] mjones : wtf zec is pumping
[2016-10-31 20:24:42] wurstgelee : regarding audodeleveraging
[2016-10-31 20:24:46] RoftheN : Crazy zec pumps
[2016-10-31 20:24:49] wurstgelee : mjones: 2.15 @ polo
[2016-10-31 20:24:51] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-31 20:24:52] zecz : If I short now at 0,74 and doesn't touch my position until cash settlement
[2016-10-31 20:24:54] sleger : negamax: ouch :( sorry
[2016-10-31 20:24:55] RocketScience : negamax: that glitch helped me a lot
[2016-10-31 20:25:00] zecz : you mean it can close before that anyway
[2016-10-31 20:25:07] negamax : RocketScience: enjoy :D
[2016-10-31 20:25:10] mjones : i closed my long at .26 before work
[2016-10-31 20:26:14] kryptopojken : poloooo
[2016-10-31 20:26:24] kryptopojken : close your shorts gentlemen
[2016-10-31 20:26:27] zecz : 2,5
[2016-10-31 20:26:29] aethlios : machines gone crazy
[2016-10-31 20:26:31] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-31 20:26:31] NL007 : feel sorry for those shorters
[2016-10-31 20:26:38] NL007 : getting ugly
[2016-10-31 20:26:50] wurstgelee : NL007: always felt, always said that. ;)
[2016-10-31 20:26:56] Yuppie : is it possible to margin only a single psoition?
[2016-10-31 20:27:14] messiaen8844 : buy buy buy zec
[2016-10-31 20:27:17] messiaen8844 : squeeze coming
[2016-10-31 20:27:24] messiaen8844 : remember limited risk longing, unlimited risk shorting
[2016-10-31 20:27:48] wurstgelee : 2.63..... ;)
[2016-10-31 20:28:02] NL007 : 3btc coming
[2016-10-31 20:28:11] coinrun : nice
[2016-10-31 20:28:12] elfix : yep
[2016-10-31 20:28:14] RoftheN : Why limited risk longing?
[2016-10-31 20:28:14] aethlios : what a fake polo market, too much manipulation
[2016-10-31 20:28:16] Yuppie : KBIO
[2016-10-31 20:28:17] coinrun : nice nice nice
[2016-10-31 20:28:19] zecz : only 1500 coins
[2016-10-31 20:28:25] zecz : could go to 10-100 in a hype
[2016-10-31 20:28:28] zecz : just wait and see
[2016-10-31 20:28:37] Rado : zecz: no it can't
[2016-10-31 20:28:44] NL007 : 1670 ZEC
[2016-10-31 20:28:45] zecz : people on polo doesnt care
[2016-10-31 20:28:48] RocketScience : dec 30 future are now up 8 dollars, but spot price is the same...
[2016-10-31 20:28:49] zecz : they want to casino
[2016-10-31 20:28:54] RoftheN : But this is future, and we all know it's going down soon
[2016-10-31 20:28:59] RocketScience : i was long luckily....from - to + :)
[2016-10-31 20:29:15] kryptopojken : golden opportunity to close shorts into the 11 wall
[2016-10-31 20:29:18] sleger : rapidtrades: it's happening !
[2016-10-31 20:29:22] kryptopojken : do it or get rekt
[2016-10-31 20:29:32] sleger : last time you can buy before 1 people
[2016-10-31 20:29:33] elfix : zec go back to 500 btc as it starts
[2016-10-31 20:29:37] Rado : sleger: it will be hard for him to get out at 3
[2016-10-31 20:29:41] Rado : but he can maybe get 1.5
[2016-10-31 20:29:45] messiaen8844 : rofthen: if you hold 1 ZEC @ 0.2 you can only lose 0.2
[2016-10-31 20:29:58] RocketScience : sleger: If you buy 1 million xbt dec 30 will mark price move like 10 dollars up?
[2016-10-31 20:29:58] sleger : Rado: we're going back to 10
[2016-10-31 20:30:00] messiaen8844 : if you short @ 0.2 and it rises to 2BTC... ouch
[2016-10-31 20:30:04] wurstgelee : sleger: yep
[2016-10-31 20:30:06] wurstgelee : probably
[2016-10-31 20:30:07] Rado : sleger: you think
[2016-10-31 20:30:19] Yuppie : this is not going to stop
[2016-10-31 20:30:22] wurstgelee : 2.8 is not the peak
[2016-10-31 20:30:25] messiaen8844 : 10 BTC then down, will be great here
[2016-10-31 20:30:26] sleger : Rado: i wouldnt short anywhere below 5-7
[2016-10-31 20:30:29] Rado : I doubt it, but anythign is possible
[2016-10-31 20:30:30] RocketScience : 3.1
[2016-10-31 20:30:30] Yuppie : there are only like 2000 coins mined yet
[2016-10-31 20:30:32] wurstgelee : its in that range too long
[2016-10-31 20:30:34] wurstgelee : see?
[2016-10-31 20:30:35] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 20:30:37] RocketScience : 3.13 !!!!!
[2016-10-31 20:30:44] elfix : waou not finish
[2016-10-31 20:30:45] kryptopojken : hoooly crap
[2016-10-31 20:30:47] RocketScience : 3.20 :D
[2016-10-31 20:30:48] NL007 : boom
[2016-10-31 20:30:50] mjones : damn. either i would be up 400% or adl if my left my zec long open. time to go rage
[2016-10-31 20:30:51] zecz : 25% of the coins are in devs wallet, and they dont sell
[2016-10-31 20:31:01] RocketScience : 3.35
[2016-10-31 20:31:02] aethlios : only 100 asks polo, manipulators party
[2016-10-31 20:31:03] RocketScience : hahaha
[2016-10-31 20:31:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 8 @ 0.916358
[2016-10-31 20:31:10] sleger : 33 coins to 1.19 (if no hidden)
[2016-10-31 20:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.935751
[2016-10-31 20:31:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.939572
[2016-10-31 20:31:14] Gr33d : ZEC for king
[2016-10-31 20:31:32] numero : Fury, fury fury!
[2016-10-31 20:31:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.977803
[2016-10-31 20:32:29] prospecta : wriggedy wriggedy rekt son
[2016-10-31 20:32:38] public username 321 : wtf?
[2016-10-31 20:32:54] EA_FTW : omfg, now 6BTC slowly slipping away :-( https://zcash.nicehash.com/balances
[2016-10-31 20:32:54] mjones : anyone still have a zec long position open from .25 area?
[2016-10-31 20:32:54] gustavo7 : 3.5 on polo already
[2016-10-31 20:33:04] Rado : 2.80
[2016-10-31 20:33:06] Rado : actually
[2016-10-31 20:33:23] Rado : now going back up
[2016-10-31 20:33:24] gustavo7 : i mean high in the candle
[2016-10-31 20:33:29] Rado : yes
[2016-10-31 20:33:31] aethlios : they will dump below 1 soon
[2016-10-31 20:33:32] kryptopojken : last change to close below 1
[2016-10-31 20:33:36] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Wally: are you planning to switch XBJ back to Quione or it will stay on LastPriceProtected?
[2016-10-31 20:33:38] imabeast : that was wild
[2016-10-31 20:33:41] gustavo7 : <-- guys were going to seven
[2016-10-31 20:34:01] lopol : What a great chance to short zec now
[2016-10-31 20:34:10] messiaen8844 : go for it
[2016-10-31 20:34:16] messiaen8844 : try it will be fun
[2016-10-31 20:34:20] aili : messiaen8844: =)
[2016-10-31 20:34:40] lopol : If my liq price is above then i will make sure pforit on longterm
[2016-10-31 20:34:42] CapitalGains : DON'T short with less than 10 BTC margin
[2016-10-31 20:34:55] messiaen8844 : just make sure your liquidation is above 10BTC
[2016-10-31 20:35:00] blacktuesday : is zcash price still capped
[2016-10-31 20:35:02] blacktuesday : ?
[2016-10-31 20:35:03] CapitalGains : It spirals out of control in the blink of an eye
[2016-10-31 20:35:09] CapitalGains : Yes it's capped at 10 BTC
[2016-10-31 20:35:09] Rado : blacktuesday: yes
[2016-10-31 20:35:16] messiaen8844 : yes
[2016-10-31 20:35:21] blacktuesday : thxs
[2016-10-31 20:35:48] sleger : i think it would be perfect timing to switch to polo AND remove the cap :D :D
[2016-10-31 20:36:06] Rado : sleger: it was this morning
[2016-10-31 20:36:11] wurstgelee : sleger: :D :D :D
[2016-10-31 20:36:12] Rado : now not so much
[2016-10-31 20:36:18] wurstgelee : healthy volume!
[2016-10-31 20:36:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 20:36:23] KingLISK : There is way more volume then 1000 zec now on polo, time to mark to spot bitmex :)
[2016-10-31 20:36:23] Rado : also they said they will give us 24 H notice
[2016-10-31 20:36:25] sleger : Rado: all the shorts would close out of fear
[2016-10-31 20:36:33] wurstgelee : sleger: :p
[2016-10-31 20:36:38] Rado : sleger: BitMEX doesn't want that I think
[2016-10-31 20:36:45] sleger : no kidding
[2016-10-31 20:36:51] sleger : was a joke
[2016-10-31 20:36:54] messiaen8844 : 24hs notice
[2016-10-31 20:37:10] messiaen8844 : let's see if I can do healthly withdraws and deposits now ;)
[2016-10-31 20:37:18] messiaen8844 : on zcash
[2016-10-31 20:37:29] kryptopojken : omg pump continues
[2016-10-31 20:37:33] kryptopojken : poloooo
[2016-10-31 20:37:40] Rado : no more buyers here
[2016-10-31 20:37:44] gustavo7 : volume in the last 5min candle on polo is double then in the one before
[2016-10-31 20:37:44] zecz : i want to short!
[2016-10-31 20:37:45] public username 321 : why would this make sense?
[2016-10-31 20:37:49] zecz : but its not safe
[2016-10-31 20:37:55] lopol : So is adl good or bad thing if happens to trader?
[2016-10-31 20:37:56] sleger : Open Interest 330
[2016-10-31 20:38:02] messiaen8844 : short XMR long ZCASH
[2016-10-31 20:38:02] messiaen8844 : flowing from one to another
[2016-10-31 20:38:06] gustavo7 : *halfway there*
[2016-10-31 20:38:15] prospecta : fomo
[2016-10-31 20:38:36] Rado : cmon
[2016-10-31 20:38:39] Rado : buy buy
[2016-10-31 20:38:51] aili : doesnt rise on polo
[2016-10-31 20:38:53] aethlios : haven't seen such a scam again, do zcash devs have a cat???
[2016-10-31 20:38:53] kryptopojken : LAST chance to close below 1
[2016-10-31 20:39:03] aili : it wil go through 1$
[2016-10-31 20:39:06] aili : here
[2016-10-31 20:39:14] aili : if polo reaches 4
[2016-10-31 20:39:16] sleger : 25 away from 1.1999
[2016-10-31 20:39:17] imabeast : stiff resistance at 3.5
[2016-10-31 20:39:22] imabeast : on polo
[2016-10-31 20:39:41] Yuppie : if I had 15BTC Id take it through 1
[2016-10-31 20:39:50] sleger : if someone buys 20, high chance of making money by liquidating more shorters
[2016-10-31 20:40:26] CapitalGains : And if someone sells 4, all the longs will be liquidat
[2016-10-31 20:40:33] CapitalGains : *ed
[2016-10-31 20:40:44] sleger : CapitalGains: no because most longs have been long from way lower
[2016-10-31 20:40:55] imabeast : gah i wish i could have shorted there
[2016-10-31 20:40:55] sleger : see nothing happens
[2016-10-31 20:40:56] imabeast : damnit
[2016-10-31 20:41:06] miramm1115 : here you go
[2016-10-31 20:41:06] CapitalGains : I mean the longs at 0.99
[2016-10-31 20:41:08] numero : heh
[2016-10-31 20:41:11] aethlios : zcrash
[2016-10-31 20:41:12] wurstgelee : wuhahaha
[2016-10-31 20:41:17] wurstgelee : such fun
[2016-10-31 20:41:19] sleger : CapitalGains: you're wrong, many got sold nothing happened
[2016-10-31 20:41:24] messiaen8844 : longs have liquidation at minus infinity
[2016-10-31 20:41:29] zcasher7777 : hi so who is the noob i say at 0.10 buy now0.8 x8 x9 xddd
[2016-10-31 20:41:36] CapitalGains : Depends on margin, true
[2016-10-31 20:41:50] RoftheN : Damn I'm too late to short high
[2016-10-31 20:42:00] CapitalGains : If they're on cross margin with more than they paid, they won't get liquidated
[2016-10-31 20:42:08] messiaen8844 : lol rapid trades not online?
[2016-10-31 20:42:08] messiaen8844 : he might get pissed
[2016-10-31 20:42:14] messiaen8844 : and boy he is good at getting pissed
[2016-10-31 20:42:20] miramm1115 : at least the orderbook is clear now, price can jump from 0.5 to 1
[2016-10-31 20:42:39] imabeast : wow that scared the shit out of me
[2016-10-31 20:42:45] wurstgelee : imabeast: :D
[2016-10-31 20:42:50] wurstgelee : not the last run
[2016-10-31 20:42:53] imabeast : thank god i have enough liquidity
[2016-10-31 20:42:56] imabeast : lmao
[2016-10-31 20:43:05] wurstgelee : still plenty of time for shenenigans
[2016-10-31 20:43:10] imabeast : yes true
[2016-10-31 20:43:16] wurstgelee : 24h notice in advance etc ;)
[2016-10-31 20:43:18] kryptopojken : polo going back up
[2016-10-31 20:43:50] aili : target 5?
[2016-10-31 20:43:55] aili : maybe lets see
[2016-10-31 20:43:57] messiaen8844 : short now guys, we want another round of liquidations
[2016-10-31 20:44:02] aili : =)
[2016-10-31 20:44:13] messiaen8844 : it's going down, but can you stand the heat?
[2016-10-31 20:44:53] messiaen8844 : call POLO friends, you can buy ZCASH fhere for 0.7, why pay 2.6 :D
[2016-10-31 20:45:42] aethlios : if you don't have liq. price 10, don't touch.
[2016-10-31 20:45:59] allyourbase : messiaen8844: lol you can't buy zcash here
[2016-10-31 20:46:10] aethlios : goes 700 usd up and down in a sec.
[2016-10-31 20:46:11] aili : gogo)
[2016-10-31 20:46:23] laisee : ZEC will overtake BTC as numero uno blockchain ... buy now :-)
[2016-10-31 20:47:02] RocketScience : zec 3.27 fora sec
[2016-10-31 20:48:00] Rado : laisee: ha ha
[2016-10-31 20:48:20] laisee : Rado scaring he shorties ... ;-)
[2016-10-31 20:48:45] messiaen8844 : here
[2016-10-31 20:48:44] messiaen8844 : allyourbase: you can buy a rocket ticket
[2016-10-31 20:48:45] RocketScience : zec's trading algorhytim is PoDG Proof of degenerate gamblers xD
[2016-10-31 20:49:04] aili : RocketScience: hahahha
[2016-10-31 20:49:11] aili : thats funny mate)
[2016-10-31 20:49:25] messiaen8844 : just remember to sell the ticket at the right time
[2016-10-31 20:49:26] messiaen8844 : :D
[2016-10-31 20:49:30] messiaen8844 : fueled by poor shorters
[2016-10-31 20:49:41] laisee : maybe rename from ZEC to CASINO
[2016-10-31 20:49:49] aethlios : time works for shorters,
[2016-10-31 20:49:56] aili : )
[2016-10-31 20:50:00] RocketScience : ZECINO
[2016-10-31 20:50:14] aethlios : new mined coins will arrive soon
[2016-10-31 20:50:17] laisee : JOKER
[2016-10-31 20:50:24] RocketScience : every new zec is quantitative easing
[2016-10-31 20:50:43] RocketScience : look at price oj usd/jpy after Japan started printing moneys
[2016-10-31 20:50:55] y1uy : RocketScience: when did they start?
[2016-10-31 20:51:05] prospecta : tiiimbeeeerrrrrr
[2016-10-31 20:51:06] RocketScience : somewhere in 2013
[2016-10-31 20:51:12] RocketScience : when it jumped to 120
[2016-10-31 20:51:12] laisee : QE saves banks, kills the economy and savings
[2016-10-31 20:51:21] imabeast : short at .9 would have been nice
[2016-10-31 20:51:25] RocketScience : you can clearly see it on chart
[2016-10-31 20:51:34] zecz : now time to crash
[2016-10-31 20:51:38] y1uy : buy my 0.84 order bae
[2016-10-31 20:51:39] zecz : back to 1, here we go
[2016-10-31 20:51:46] aethlios : decem each day 7.200 new coins, shorters will laugh last collecting bulls blood at expiration
[2016-10-31 20:51:54] imabeast : y1uy: i would
[2016-10-31 20:52:01] imabeast : y1uy: but i cant
[2016-10-31 20:52:01] RocketScience : inflation is a bch
[2016-10-31 20:52:07] y1uy : imabeast: why?