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[2016-10-30 23:40:36] RocketScience : I filled a 50$ order
[2016-10-30 23:40:48] wurstgelee : i dont think either
[2016-10-30 23:40:49] rfcdejong : crap I just closed my position and now BTC goes up more
[2016-10-30 23:40:52] RocketScience : I am a good market maker
[2016-10-30 23:40:58] wurstgelee : mms wont be here before marking
[2016-10-30 23:41:02] wurstgelee : @ zec
[2016-10-30 23:41:04] rapidtrades : sleger: well smone close to bitmex did, that's why they covered his back with the cap
[2016-10-30 23:41:07] rfcdejong : I need to get on the leaderboards in here :)
[2016-10-30 23:41:24] rfcdejong : /me deposit some more
[2016-10-30 23:41:25] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: where are the leaderboards again? link?
[2016-10-30 23:41:41] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2016-10-30 23:41:58] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-10-30 23:42:04] wurstgelee : i am on it
[2016-10-30 23:42:05] Rado : rfcdejong: be careful not to get on the liquidation leader board
[2016-10-30 23:42:05] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-30 23:42:06] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 23:42:12] sleger : rapidtrades: what i think is that when they realised they screwed up they had to make a choice. Then they realised longs already made money and shorts lost so it was easier for them to leave the cap, because people are more pissed when they lose money than when they lose potential profits
[2016-10-30 23:42:13] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: ROE will be posible, but the other not yet
[2016-10-30 23:42:27] wurstgelee : not on the roe
[2016-10-30 23:42:30] wurstgelee : the other ;)
[2016-10-30 23:42:32] rfcdejong : Rado: :)
[2016-10-30 23:42:47] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: whale as well? :)
[2016-10-30 23:42:57] rapidtrades : sleger: don't do what's right, do what pisses off less people
[2016-10-30 23:42:57] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-30 23:43:00] wurstgelee : no 1k
[2016-10-30 23:43:07] wurstgelee : if thats whale criteria
[2016-10-30 23:43:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:43:10] rapidtrades : that's a great long-term business strategy
[2016-10-30 23:43:14] sleger : rapidtrades: of course, or in their case, do what keeps customers here
[2016-10-30 23:43:31] wurstgelee : junior whale. 3 digits
[2016-10-30 23:43:32] rapidtrades : idk that move lost my trust in them completely
[2016-10-30 23:43:36] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 23:43:43] rapidtrades : im only here to make money off the idiots now
[2016-10-30 23:44:05] kradiav : rapidtrades: you can't trade with yourself dude.... boom! :D
[2016-10-30 23:44:07] rapidtrades : will switch what i can to polo and okc
[2016-10-30 23:44:08] sleger : that's what i call my "10%"
[2016-10-30 23:44:09] rfcdejong : I'm going to transfer a tiny more into here lol...
[2016-10-30 23:44:52] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah
[2016-10-30 23:45:11] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u cant make or lose money that fast on polo. viva bitmex! ;)
[2016-10-30 23:45:30] Gr33d : kradiav: +1
[2016-10-30 23:45:33] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I believe
[2016-10-30 23:45:49] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: try 33x on eth
[2016-10-30 23:45:50] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 23:46:22] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes short in here at 33% and then dump all my ETH on polo :D
[2016-10-30 23:46:49] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I regret not selling them at 0.022 lol
[2016-10-30 23:46:58] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: that would actually work if u have enough eth to push the price
[2016-10-30 23:47:08] wurstgelee : or dump
[2016-10-30 23:47:14] wurstgelee : not push
[2016-10-30 23:47:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:47:33] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: problem is that I'm not alone on polo, if I dump a bigger whale will buy up way higher than I dumped it
[2016-10-30 23:47:47] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-30 23:47:55] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 23:47:58] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I need to eat more fish
[2016-10-30 23:48:21] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: slowly... but this BTC rise didn't do me any good :/
[2016-10-30 23:48:50] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: and putting more FIAT into BTC is also risky now, not a bit but alot FIAT that is
[2016-10-30 23:49:31] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u cant make money on polo when btc i pumping with non-margin-tradeable coins on polo.
[2016-10-30 23:49:33] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I don't want to explain my wife again and then her from here "you need to cash out" :)
[2016-10-30 23:49:44] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: hehe
[2016-10-30 23:49:53] kradiav : ZEC so strong right now... tide turning for long term
[2016-10-30 23:50:05] kryptopojken : kradiav: lol
[2016-10-30 23:50:09] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: you're dutch, right?
[2016-10-30 23:50:10] wurstgelee : kradiav: polo user?
[2016-10-30 23:50:12] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 23:50:17] rfcdejong : mjmj83: yup
[2016-10-30 23:50:29] rfcdejong : kradiav: I see your name in the leaderboard :)
[2016-10-30 23:50:41] mjmj83 : more and more dutch people around here..
[2016-10-30 23:50:43] rfcdejong : kradiav: 552.57 ROE :)
[2016-10-30 23:51:16] kradiav : yeap, polo mainly... just joined on zcash
[2016-10-30 23:51:20] kradiav : good money here
[2016-10-30 23:52:17] wurstgelee : kradiav: your style of chatting made it obvious :p
[2016-10-30 23:52:26] kradiav : :D
[2016-10-30 23:52:58] kradiav : I haven't read their trollbox for a long time... too tiring
[2016-10-30 23:53:08] wurstgelee : i have it closed
[2016-10-30 23:53:18] rapidtrades : polo tamed his spirit...
[2016-10-30 23:53:21] rfcdejong : poloniex is missing a leaderboard
[2016-10-30 23:53:23] wurstgelee : site is slow enough without
[2016-10-30 23:53:23] rapidtrades : polo breaks all men
[2016-10-30 23:53:33] kradiav : wurstgelee: ye
[2016-10-30 23:53:39] wurstgelee : horribly slow interface...
[2016-10-30 23:54:08] rfcdejong : oh API in here
[2016-10-30 23:54:12] imabeast : i hate the slider for the graphs
[2016-10-30 23:54:12] imabeast : lol
[2016-10-30 23:54:13] rfcdejong : I need to code on my bot again :)
[2016-10-30 23:54:40] rfcdejong : but I won't let my bot do 100x margin lol
[2016-10-30 23:54:57] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:54:57] rapidtrades : set it free on zec
[2016-10-30 23:56:02] rfcdejong : only 2% leverage on ZEC shorting isn't any fun
[2016-10-30 23:56:08] rfcdejong : 2x
[2016-10-30 23:56:36] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u would say that if u had been here during the run up to 10 btc per future
[2016-10-30 23:56:41] wurstgelee : *wouldnt
[2016-10-30 23:57:01] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: lol yes I missed that
[2016-10-30 23:57:25] imabeast : btc -> 680 soon
[2016-10-30 23:57:57] wurstgelee : imabeast: !
[2016-10-30 23:59:14] wurstgelee : my body is ready
[2016-10-30 23:59:21] wurstgelee : so are my shorts ;)
[2016-10-30 23:59:40] imabeast : yes im ready as well
[2016-10-30 23:59:41] imabeast : haha
[2016-10-30 23:59:51] laisee : my accountant is ready
[2016-10-31 00:00:45] imabeast : btc needs a pull back before it goes back up
[2016-10-31 00:00:56] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-31 00:01:04] wurstgelee : to long without now
[2016-10-31 00:01:13] wurstgelee : needs to liquidate some longs to go further
[2016-10-31 00:01:37] wurstgelee : *too
[2016-10-31 00:02:51] wurstgelee : every alt pumping besides literock
[2016-10-31 00:10:49] mjones : think btc is gonna go take a dive?
[2016-10-31 00:13:32] laisee : yes, about to start historic move of value/miners/users from BTC to ZEC imho
[2016-10-31 00:13:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 70 @ 0.003016
[2016-10-31 00:14:43] mjones : as soon as the zec mark price to polo is announced it will pump
[2016-10-31 00:15:07] mjones : has the requirements been met?
[2016-10-31 00:16:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 450 @ 0.01592
[2016-10-31 00:16:47] laisee : getting close on requirements, as of last night, for 24h turnover
[2016-10-31 00:17:34] sleger : that is PART of the requirements
[2016-10-31 00:17:42] laisee : not sure about the 'stable, decent, humble, nice, resonable deposit/withdrawal' behavior could be, tho
[2016-10-31 00:18:02] laisee : ^+ /s
[2016-10-31 00:33:57] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-31 00:35:17] wurstgelee : 0.0188
[2016-10-31 00:35:22] wurstgelee : mining away like a boss
[2016-10-31 00:35:25] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-31 00:38:31] wurstgelee : also come on buttcoin, i know u want to dump
[2016-10-31 00:39:06] numero : I'm not sure what to do with my btc, any suggestions?
[2016-10-31 00:40:22] iefken : zec to the moon!
[2016-10-31 00:40:29] wurstgelee : not short zec here at .3
[2016-10-31 00:42:17] laisee : buy the next, great sheßeCoin ...
[2016-10-31 00:42:38] wurstgelee : btc wants to jump off the cliff so badly... ;)
[2016-10-31 00:44:21] laisee : just needs a little push, like ZEC stabilizing @ ~1.00 BTC
[2016-10-31 00:44:22] RocketScience : Yesterday there was peak euphoria before the dive
[2016-10-31 00:45:08] laisee : waiting for monday bank deposits hit the exchanges and last buying plunge takes place?
[2016-10-31 00:50:15] wurstgelee : break even for miners seems to be somewhere around .5 to .7 for zec from how my experiment is going
[2016-10-31 00:50:39] wurstgelee : a lot higher for cloud mining ofc
[2016-10-31 00:50:45] wurstgelee : those guys are fucked
[2016-10-31 00:51:13] arbitrage001 : wurstgelee: how did you perform your exp?
[2016-10-31 00:52:07] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: 15kSol @ nicehash width average price. seems like i end up at ~ 1 btc per zec
[2016-10-31 00:52:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 630 @ 695.97
[2016-10-31 00:52:23] wurstgelee : i assume its possible way more proftable than that
[2016-10-31 00:52:28] wurstgelee : so .5 to .7 ;)
[2016-10-31 00:52:49] wurstgelee : with cloud minig contract buyers being fucked anyways
[2016-10-31 00:52:51] arbitrage001 : so supply will dry up very fast at 0.8
[2016-10-31 00:52:53] billyboy402 : could some one please help me with a API of just the next funding cost ?
[2016-10-31 00:52:55] wurstgelee : they have several btc per zec
[2016-10-31 00:53:14] arbitrage001 : since there is no incentive to mine at low price
[2016-10-31 00:53:17] wurstgelee : arbitrage001: i dont see it dumping below .5 currently
[2016-10-31 00:53:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 00:53:31] wurstgelee : *subject to change any minute/hour
[2016-10-31 00:53:45] arbitrage001 : the development team
[2016-10-31 00:53:52] arbitrage001 : how did they profit
[2016-10-31 00:53:52] laisee : wurstgelee: every cloud mining thing advertised is a scam or over-prived. no change there ;-)
[2016-10-31 00:53:56] wurstgelee : those funds are locked a year iirc?
[2016-10-31 00:53:58] wurstgelee : no?
[2016-10-31 00:54:36] wurstgelee : and even if not....supply still fucking low the coming weeks
[2016-10-31 00:54:37] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-31 00:55:30] arbitrage001 : who do you think put up those low ask price here?
[2016-10-31 00:55:46] arbitrage001 : genius or idiot?
[2016-10-31 00:56:03] laisee : savant
[2016-10-31 00:56:58] wurstgelee : good question
[2016-10-31 00:58:50] billyboy402 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/funding?symbol=XBTUSD&count=1&reverse=false Only show the last funding rate , how do i see the future funding rate ?
[2016-10-31 00:59:26] arbitrage001 : billyboy402: email the support team
[2016-10-31 00:59:59] billyboy402 : arbitrage001: yep , did that , i thought there might be another smart user here that know of it
[2016-10-31 01:00:26] j8 : billyboy402: its one of the fields returned by GET /instrument
[2016-10-31 01:00:38] arbitrage001 : i am cavemen trader
[2016-10-31 01:00:42] arbitrage001 : just hand to trade
[2016-10-31 01:01:47] billyboy402 : j8: getfunding?symbol=XBTUSD&count ?
[2016-10-31 01:02:01] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTUSD&columns=indicativeFundingRate
[2016-10-31 01:02:48] j8 : if you leave out the part from &columns on, you get a bunch of other fields, that part just filters it
[2016-10-31 01:03:39] billyboy402 : j8: ythx mate , can you tip from the chat here ? i apperatie the help
[2016-10-31 01:04:02] j8 : don't worry about it
[2016-10-31 01:05:56] billyboy402 : question in google ,. how do you add just the data you want in the API . the only way i know how to do it is =SUBSTITUTE( ,"",) but is there a eaier way just to get the API to post the 0.006%
[2016-10-31 01:07:34] billyboy402 : Auther email me https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTUSD&count=100&reverse=false but this look heaps messy for me , i guess this give you all the figurer to calurlate it your self
[2016-10-31 01:10:06] mjones : well i guess the money play is long zec and wait for it to be marked to polo announcement
[2016-10-31 01:12:41] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Just to confirm `fundingRate` is the funding rate that will be charged next, and then `indicativeFundingRate` is the prediction for the funding rate 8 hours after that
[2016-10-31 01:13:13] billyboy402 : oh , so that in 10 hours
[2016-10-31 01:13:27] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-10-31 01:14:07] billyboy402 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTUSD&columns=fundingRate
[2016-10-31 01:14:14] BitMEX_Wally : So for XBTUSD it says `Funding Rate-0.0259% in 3 hours` this is the `fundingRate` field and the time it will be charged is `fundingTimestamp`
[2016-10-31 01:14:14] billyboy402 : oh great that what i was looking for
[2016-10-31 01:14:37] billyboy402 : I never new about "&columns=fundingRate"
[2016-10-31 01:18:20] billyboy402 : for google sheet i have to create =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(INDEX(IMPORTDATA("https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/instrument?symbol=XBTUSD&columns=fundingRate"),0,3,),"fundingRate:",),"}]",) .
[2016-10-31 01:18:40] billyboy402 : is there a easy way to to print just the price ?
[2016-10-31 01:19:36] mjones : bitmex needs to be an option in the bitcoinchecker app
[2016-10-31 01:19:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 693.70
[2016-10-31 01:21:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 692.84
[2016-10-31 01:21:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 692.42
[2016-10-31 01:21:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1100 @ 691.03
[2016-10-31 01:21:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 41 @ 691.35
[2016-10-31 01:21:34] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-10-31 01:21:34] gustavo7 : long candle on okcoin too
[2016-10-31 01:22:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15000 @ 690.37
[2016-10-31 01:22:34] imabeast : rekt lyfe
[2016-10-31 01:25:08] imabeast : fyi https://twitter.com/Cryptopathic/status/792885749465186304
[2016-10-31 01:25:35] wurstgelee : So about that cliff btc is going to jump off i mentioned half an hour earlier....
[2016-10-31 01:25:38] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 01:26:16] rapidtrades : ZEC finall ystable
[2016-10-31 01:26:30] rapidtrades : now we go up
[2016-10-31 01:26:31] wurstgelee : btc going down sure helps a lot atm
[2016-10-31 01:27:14] wurstgelee : and general #altsareprobablybackforawhile
[2016-10-31 01:27:22] kryptopojken : BitMEX_Wally: will get less likely to get ADL if I add margin to my XBTUSD position?
[2016-10-31 01:27:35] wurstgelee : kryptopojken: yes
[2016-10-31 01:27:50] wurstgelee : lowers your leverage
[2016-10-31 01:28:08] kryptopojken : ok trying now
[2016-10-31 01:28:14] wurstgelee : should lower adl risk iirc
[2016-10-31 01:28:18] kryptopojken : the green bar is the same
[2016-10-31 01:28:35] kryptopojken : ok now it went down a little
[2016-10-31 01:28:43] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-31 01:30:47] mbaril : are we gonna see 700 back :)
[2016-10-31 01:33:12] billyboy402 : j8: hey mate , you wouldnt know the BFX usd funding rate by any chance , i have try https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/lendbook/currency:usd
[2016-10-31 01:33:48] mjones : i dont know why you would pump zec still. why wouldnt you just wait for the supply to overwhelm the demand.
[2016-10-31 01:34:01] j8 : billyboy402: https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/lendbook/usd
[2016-10-31 01:34:38] billyboy402 : Oh so i didnt need to add Currency : USD
[2016-10-31 01:34:54] billyboy402 : silly me ok , this is all new to me
[2016-10-31 01:35:31] mjones : only thing longs are hoping for is a polo mark price to give an excuse to pump
[2016-10-31 01:35:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 10 @ 0.280875
[2016-10-31 01:36:25] billyboy402 : can i also add that '&columns' and '&count=1'
[2016-10-31 01:36:47] j8 : as for your google sheets problem.. you either need a JSON plugin for google sheets, or you can add `&_format=csv` or `&_format=xml` to the api call to get it in that format
[2016-10-31 01:36:48] rapidtrades : GOD DAMIT
[2016-10-31 01:37:04] rapidtrades : HOW LONG WILL WE LET THESE STUPID SHORTS RUN ALL OVER US
[2016-10-31 01:37:24] rapidtrades : activate plan Fury
[2016-10-31 01:37:41] chromaticcr1 : what? market order to 10?
[2016-10-31 01:37:52] chromaticcr1 : Looking forward
[2016-10-31 01:37:54] rapidtrades : i dunno what ur talking about
[2016-10-31 01:39:13] iefken : rapidtrades: what does it matter, cheap zec now :3
[2016-10-31 01:39:18] wurstgelee : thanks for dumping. Moar plz
[2016-10-31 01:43:06] mjones : damn some zec noob on here. dumping the future
[2016-10-31 01:43:09] billyboy402 : j8: oh shit , i just download ther add on , i think i need you youbute how to add them now
[2016-10-31 01:45:21] Rado : mjones: noob or pro?
[2016-10-31 01:45:58] rapidtrades : noob
[2016-10-31 01:46:11] Rado : I think 0.30 is great place to short
[2016-10-31 01:46:22] Rado : you can make 0.20 in a day or two
[2016-10-31 01:46:36] rapidtrades : k
[2016-10-31 01:46:52] Rado : rapidtrades: do you ever sleep?
[2016-10-31 01:47:15] rapidtrades : i've been geting 5 hrs past few days
[2016-10-31 01:47:24] Rado : it must be over midnight where you are
[2016-10-31 01:47:24] rapidtrades : will sleep once this ZEC fiasco is over
[2016-10-31 01:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 8000 @ 719.91
[2016-10-31 01:47:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4200 @ 688.55
[2016-10-31 01:47:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 688.66
[2016-10-31 01:47:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 39010 @ 688.77 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-31 01:48:01] Rado : very strange
[2016-10-31 01:48:12] Rado : when BTC was going up alts dumped hard
[2016-10-31 01:48:22] Rado : now when BTC is retracing alts barely move
[2016-10-31 01:48:45] martinium : They are called shitcoins for a reason
[2016-10-31 01:48:49] iefken : zec is sucking up evert
[2016-10-31 01:48:58] iefken : everything*
[2016-10-31 01:48:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1600 @ 688.08
[2016-10-31 01:48:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 140 @ 687.83
[2016-10-31 01:49:19] rapidtrades : ZEC LOVEU4EVA
[2016-10-31 01:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 685.05
[2016-10-31 01:49:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2947 @ 683.96
[2016-10-31 01:50:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 757 @ 712.81
[2016-10-31 01:50:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 800 @ 682.87
[2016-10-31 01:50:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25000 @ 683.38 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-31 01:50:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 11163 @ 710.17
[2016-10-31 01:50:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2380 @ 683.45
[2016-10-31 01:50:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 683.05
[2016-10-31 01:50:26] Rado : ha
[2016-10-31 01:50:38] RocketScience : bounce you sonuvabicht
[2016-10-31 01:50:39] RocketScience : xD
[2016-10-31 01:50:42] Rado : got filled on XBT Dec 30
[2016-10-31 01:50:45] RocketScience : daaaamnnnn
[2016-10-31 01:50:46] Rado : on that liquidation
[2016-10-31 01:50:59] Tetsuo : https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-network-shaken-by-blockchain-fork-1363144448
[2016-10-31 01:51:05] Tetsuo : it´s all over
[2016-10-31 01:51:09] Tetsuo : SELLSELLSELL
[2016-10-31 01:51:21] rapidtrades : idiot
[2016-10-31 01:51:35] Rado : lol
[2016-10-31 01:51:40] rapidtrades : BAN TETSUO
[2016-10-31 01:51:41] Rado : he is an idiot
[2016-10-31 01:52:01] rapidtrades : i can see why polo banned u now
[2016-10-31 01:52:10] Tetsuo : don´t kill the messenger
[2016-10-31 01:54:39] RocketScience : will it stay above 4700?
[2016-10-31 01:54:46] RocketScience : omg stresss, feeaarr
[2016-10-31 01:55:02] RocketScience : i am insta awake at 2.54 pm
[2016-10-31 01:55:47] RocketScience : if i was an inch greedier i'd get mega rekt :D
[2016-10-31 02:00:12] RocketScience : I am praying to China
[2016-10-31 02:00:21] RocketScience : Tao te ching
[2016-10-31 02:00:22] mjones : i got mega rekt on that dump
[2016-10-31 02:00:29] RocketScience : fck this dump
[2016-10-31 02:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 69000 @ 689.77 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-10-31 02:00:38] RocketScience : woodchipper's?
[2016-10-31 02:00:55] gustavo7 : BAM
[2016-10-31 02:00:57] jordanbitfort : rofl shorting the bottom
[2016-10-31 02:01:44] gustavo7 : well i longed 15min ago
[2016-10-31 02:02:03] gustavo7 : just broke even *sweats*
[2016-10-31 02:02:06] RocketScience : me too... 694
[2016-10-31 02:03:14] chromaticcr1 : ZEC bid @ 0.25, ** BUY THEM ALL **
[2016-10-31 02:03:20] mjones : lol zec
[2016-10-31 02:03:25] chromaticcr1 : SO CHEAP
[2016-10-31 02:03:34] mjones : buy and get rekt in minutes
[2016-10-31 02:04:04] chromaticcr1 : i guess we have less liquidity on the ask so perhaps the 0.25 order guy get rekt first
[2016-10-31 02:04:29] public username 321 : zcrash
[2016-10-31 02:05:05] chromaticcr1 : get something back before it is too late guy
[2016-10-31 02:05:19] mjones : well who wants to rekt them
[2016-10-31 02:08:50] rapidtrades : lol 0.22
[2016-10-31 02:08:59] rapidtrades : these ppl are retarded
[2016-10-31 02:09:36] billyboy402 : j8: do you have any form that i cant PM you , twitter of Telagram , you can PM my name <
[2016-10-31 02:10:33] RocketScience : Btc is saved
[2016-10-31 02:11:03] billyboy402 : j8: 'https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/lendbook/usd&_format=cvs' doesnt work for me
[2016-10-31 02:11:23] iefken : =csv?
[2016-10-31 02:11:58] rapidtrades : PBOC in 4 mins
[2016-10-31 02:12:09] iefken : pboc?
[2016-10-31 02:12:12] billyboy402 : or https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/lendbook/usd&_format=csv
[2016-10-31 02:12:32] chromaticcr1 : http://www.pbc.gov.cn/zhengcehuobisi/125207/125217/125925/3174271/index.html 6.7641
[2016-10-31 02:12:52] billyboy402 : ppl bank of china ?
[2016-10-31 02:13:06] chromaticcr1 : you are 1 hour late
[2016-10-31 02:13:59] RocketScience : what does it say?
[2016-10-31 02:14:20] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: aaah right
[2016-10-31 02:14:29] rapidtrades : the f*cking winter time change
[2016-10-31 02:14:35] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2016-10-31 02:15:17] rapidtrades : wait...not seeing anything on forexlive
[2016-10-31 02:15:21] iefken : that was yesterday here
[2016-10-31 02:15:55] RocketScience : 6.76 fix
[2016-10-31 02:16:05] RocketScience : is this the reason for btc deluge?
[2016-10-31 02:17:33] gustavo7 : google says it was 6.75 before so less than 1% change
[2016-10-31 02:17:42] rapidtrades : http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-30/latest-polls-show-clinton-support-slipped-after-fbi-s-letter
[2016-10-31 02:17:49] rapidtrades : lol look at that shit
[2016-10-31 02:17:54] rapidtrades : race now a toss up
[2016-10-31 02:18:51] rapidtrades : PBOC sets USD/CNY mid-point today at 6.7641 (vs. Friday at 6.7858)
[2016-10-31 02:19:13] ytaews : it's 2016 and you're quoting a single national poll? lol
[2016-10-31 02:19:17] rapidtrades : it came out 1h earlier
[2016-10-31 02:19:19] RocketScience : lets fix yuan/btc to 6750
[2016-10-31 02:19:26] RocketScience : +2k
[2016-10-31 02:19:36] rapidtrades : CAP BITCOIN MEX
[2016-10-31 02:20:05] rapidtrades : cap it at 700 so i can load up on shorts and make $$$ of that sweet funding
[2016-10-31 02:20:11] RocketScience : I am so stressed...
[2016-10-31 02:20:29] Coach_Z : why @RocketScience ?
[2016-10-31 02:20:48] RocketScience : because i just survived this btc dump..i'm all in btc
[2016-10-31 02:20:58] RocketScience : it was close...
[2016-10-31 02:21:26] Coach_Z : wtf is up with this dump?
[2016-10-31 02:21:30] Coach_Z : it's higher on coin marketcap
[2016-10-31 02:21:53] RocketScience : on 1 day chart it could be expected
[2016-10-31 02:22:02] RocketScience : but i always stare at 1 min xD
[2016-10-31 02:23:04] RocketScience : Woodchipper destroying longs before moon?
[2016-10-31 02:24:51] miramm1115 : that was a nice dump
[2016-10-31 02:25:26] RocketScience : it was so great that someone bought a 300 btc eth wall on polo
[2016-10-31 02:25:56] RocketScience : break even.. i need a hug
[2016-10-31 02:25:59] RocketScience : :D
[2016-10-31 02:26:29] rapidtrades : is there no man to stop this ZEC bleeding?
[2016-10-31 02:27:03] iefken : patience
[2016-10-31 02:27:13] Coach_Z : rapidtrades: every day more ZEC coins are mined than the previous day, but demand doesn't increase when the price falls 80% each day.
[2016-10-31 02:27:43] rapidtrades : tnx for ur shitty opinion
[2016-10-31 02:27:52] RocketScience : put a good buywall and i shall drop this burden on you :D
[2016-10-31 02:28:26] Coach_Z : pump it up @rapidtrades , it's a an awesome coin, sue to fly to the zenith
[2016-10-31 02:28:33] jordanbitfort : lol zcash still worth 150 dollars here? should be 5 dollars like XMR
[2016-10-31 02:28:43] RocketScience : to the cap! 10 btc!
[2016-10-31 02:28:48] rapidtrades : goooo
[2016-10-31 02:28:52] rapidtrades : pump it
[2016-10-31 02:29:04] iefken : dont you know, pump it up
[2016-10-31 02:29:04] RocketScience : lol
[2016-10-31 02:29:07] Coach_Z : pump pump pump!
[2016-10-31 02:29:09] RocketScience : btc fomo on bitmex
[2016-10-31 02:29:14] RocketScience : puuuuump
[2016-10-31 02:29:40] RocketScience : i blessed that 697 wall
[2016-10-31 02:29:42] RocketScience : moar
[2016-10-31 02:29:45] Rado : nice
[2016-10-31 02:29:53] RocketScience : 21k to drop
[2016-10-31 02:30:00] RocketScience : i wanna sleep tight haha
[2016-10-31 02:30:09] jordanbitfort : Pump up the jam, pump it up While you feet are stompin' And the jam is pumpin'
[2016-10-31 02:30:15] Rado : I got filled at 711 on XBTZ16
[2016-10-31 02:30:22] Rado : already back to 727
[2016-10-31 02:30:45] Rado : rapidtrades: I covered ZEC, you can pump now
[2016-10-31 02:30:47] Rado : ;-)
[2016-10-31 02:31:09] rapidtrades : Rado: gee tnx
[2016-10-31 02:31:39] Rado : It's so simple to trade BTC
[2016-10-31 02:31:44] Rado : buy every dip
[2016-10-31 02:31:54] martinium : man Seg Wit going to send BTC to moon
[2016-10-31 02:32:13] martinium : or if BTCU forks either way its a win for BTC and more upside
[2016-10-31 02:32:18] jordanbitfort : i thought ViaBTC is blocking segwit?
[2016-10-31 02:32:41] martinium : they are on BTCU
[2016-10-31 02:32:54] RocketScience : Rado: I bought the "dip" before the blackhole
[2016-10-31 02:33:08] martinium : my preference is everyone run BTCU to go on with original vision for btc
[2016-10-31 02:33:20] martinium : but we will see if miners indeed support t or not
[2016-10-31 02:33:30] RocketScience : segwit is the test
[2016-10-31 02:33:35] iefken : hard forks are selden good
[2016-10-31 02:33:37] jordanbitfort : martinium: ok but how is it a win for BTC to split into 2 chains? Could cause a big dump like eth/etc
[2016-10-31 02:33:57] martinium : jordanbitfort: miners would go on to main winning chain
[2016-10-31 02:34:05] RocketScience : btc fork will double our coins like Ruja doubles your onecoins hehe
[2016-10-31 02:34:14] martinium : more trnsactions being handled will be the end result
[2016-10-31 02:34:23] martinium : so a big plus for BTC price
[2016-10-31 02:34:37] martinium : nah it wont double coins
[2016-10-31 02:34:54] martinium : losing fork will just become invalid for anything mined
[2016-10-31 02:34:59] martinium : since it wont be the main chain
[2016-10-31 02:35:20] rapidtrades : i'd like to get double coins
[2016-10-31 02:35:49] martinium : don't think it'll happen but if it does could be cool
[2016-10-31 02:36:03] martinium : extra money before losing chain becomes worthless
[2016-10-31 02:36:03] RocketScience : but some people can keep it alive like etc
[2016-10-31 02:36:13] martinium : not enough to be meaningful
[2016-10-31 02:36:20] rapidtrades : we're gonna need a couple of retarded devs for that to happen
[2016-10-31 02:36:23] RocketScience : explain to laymen why there are 2 bitcoins now... xD
[2016-10-31 02:36:31] jordanbitfort : go to the woodchipper and ask them to add bitcoin classic ;^)
[2016-10-31 02:36:32] rapidtrades : maybe we can borrow VitaLik and his gang
[2016-10-31 02:36:47] RocketScience : i blame woodchipper for the dump
[2016-10-31 02:39:31] rapidtrades : did u see that .65 print
[2016-10-31 02:39:40] martinium : dump happened on most exchanges I checked
[2016-10-31 02:39:44] martinium : bots are syced
[2016-10-31 02:39:47] martinium : synced*
[2016-10-31 02:40:15] RocketScience : basically i went through mental hell and came back with 0.1 btc profit
[2016-10-31 02:40:39] RocketScience : i don't have 1 nerve left so i had to sell it all on break even ^^
[2016-10-31 02:40:43] rapidtrades : look at how volatile this shit is
[2016-10-31 02:40:54] RocketScience : you mean zec?
[2016-10-31 02:40:56] rapidtrades : .66>.71>66>71
[2016-10-31 02:41:07] RocketScience : ah btc in china
[2016-10-31 02:41:18] rapidtrades : no i mean zec
[2016-10-31 02:41:20] chromaticcr1 : look at what shit you bought ;)
[2016-10-31 02:41:38] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: i bought fine i just got backstabbed by bitmex
[2016-10-31 02:41:53] RocketScience : china is just having a battle between 4771 and 4766 :D
[2016-10-31 02:42:11] rapidtrades : dude no one cares about BTC
[2016-10-31 02:42:24] RocketScience : i love btc and it wants to kill me :(
[2016-10-31 02:42:25] rapidtrades : oh no it fell 3%
[2016-10-31 02:42:29] rapidtrades : whi gives a shit
[2016-10-31 02:42:31] chromaticcr1 : yeah and spot is lower than 3 now so perhaps you got stabbed by polo finex and every exchange that lists zec
[2016-10-31 02:42:49] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: my god ur f*cked in the head aren't u
[2016-10-31 02:43:19] RocketScience : i trade with 25...70x leverage..it's so intense
[2016-10-31 02:43:29] RocketScience : gotta temper my greed
[2016-10-31 02:43:30] chromaticcr1 : and miners who are pushing supplies to the market too, yeah... forgot that one
[2016-10-31 02:43:43] rapidtrades : i don't give a shit
[2016-10-31 02:43:47] rapidtrades : and ur dumb
[2016-10-31 02:44:29] RocketScience : how much do you leverage?
[2016-10-31 02:44:31] chromaticcr1 : dumb enough to take position agaist you
[2016-10-31 02:44:48] jordanbitfort : masterful trolling rapidtrades. or should i say, skankhunt42
[2016-10-31 02:44:49] rapidtrades : yeah keep doing that and see how u end up
[2016-10-31 02:44:57] rapidtrades : chromaticcr1: bailout boy
[2016-10-31 02:47:30] Rado : RocketScience: it's not about leverage
[2016-10-31 02:48:05] Rado : I am always at 100x, but my position size is small compared to my total account holdings. Also I have a stop order for every position.
[2016-10-31 02:48:29] Rado : So for me leverage doesn't really matter
[2016-10-31 02:49:58] Rado : for example the liquidation price on my XBTZ16 trade is 221.70
[2016-10-31 02:50:04] Rado : but I have a stop at 713
[2016-10-31 02:50:25] Rado : so I will never be liquidated
[2016-10-31 02:50:43] martinium : Rado: your effective leverage use is less that the full 100x thats what that means
[2016-10-31 02:50:54] martinium : most new traders mess up and go balls to the wall every trade
[2016-10-31 02:51:09] martinium : their balance * 100
[2016-10-31 02:51:16] Rado : martinium: that's a sure way to blow your account
[2016-10-31 02:51:16] martinium : then get liquidated
[2016-10-31 02:51:22] martinium : yep
[2016-10-31 02:51:29] rapidtrades : except on ZEC
[2016-10-31 02:51:32] martinium : lol
[2016-10-31 02:51:38] rapidtrades : there they get a bailout and a cap
[2016-10-31 02:53:49] rapidtrades : a wise old man once said 'Live long enough and you'll get screwed in one thousand ways'
[2016-10-31 03:04:55] RocketScience : let him who has wisdom count the number of rapid trades
[2016-10-31 03:05:07] RocketScience : needed to become rich
[2016-10-31 03:05:36] RocketScience : -John's revelation xD
[2016-10-31 03:11:19] RocketScience : martinium: That would be me. hehe
[2016-10-31 03:12:21] RocketScience : i learned my lesson tonight
[2016-10-31 03:12:58] rapidtrades : RocketScience: how much did u lose?
[2016-10-31 03:13:28] RocketScience : I had liq price at 676...and entry 984
[2016-10-31 03:13:38] RocketScience : 694*
[2016-10-31 03:14:04] RocketScience : i actually sold at 697 then :P
[2016-10-31 03:15:11] RocketScience : a little profit not worth the stress...it's 4.10am and i am still full of adrenaline, don't care about sleep
[2016-10-31 03:16:42] RocketScience : Good night grumpytrades :)
[2016-10-31 03:16:59] rapidtrades : good night :)
[2016-10-31 03:27:26] javierstone : so if i wanna go long and leverage and place a trade but want to put in a safety net of a stop do i do that in another trade or using a stop limit?
[2016-10-31 03:30:35] Rado : javierstone: I would use Stop Market
[2016-10-31 03:30:39] Rado : not Stop Limit
[2016-10-31 03:33:15] javierstone : gotcha
[2016-10-31 03:33:43] sabbybibi : oh good i'm glad you're there rado if you know about these things..... how do *any* of the stops (market, limit, trailing) guarantee anything? i mean, you're placing an opposite (unwinding) order into the book - but if no-one's interested, it'll just cascade v. unfavorably to you, esp. "market"!
[2016-10-31 03:33:59] sabbybibi : (or not execute at all!)
[2016-10-31 03:34:24] sabbybibi : ...or am i misunderstanding something??
[2016-10-31 03:36:30] sabbybibi : like, if i go long @700, and i try to "stop" at 690, well, that means i'm trying to *sell* at 690 (to unwind my buy)... but if no -one's interested, i *don't* sell at 690... and if i sell as "market", i could end up selling down to 680, 670...
[2016-10-31 03:36:42] sabbybibi : basically i don't get how it can "stop" reliably at all!
[2016-10-31 03:36:52] sabbybibi : sorry if these are stupid questions hehehehe
[2016-10-31 03:36:58] joequant : It helps to do this if you are in Asia time. I'm expecting another drop in about half an hour.
[2016-10-31 03:38:04] sabbybibi : (my example numbers are not meant as comments on the market right now, just "easy arithmetic" example numbers)
[2016-10-31 03:42:37] miramm1115 : sabbybibi: stop limit guarantees the price but might not execute at all, it will just place an order on the orderbook. stop market guarantees execution but doesn't guarantee the price
[2016-10-31 03:43:49] miramm1115 : for smaller position stop market is ok, you will have some slippage but the orderbook on XBTUSD has enough orders to catch your stop market
[2016-10-31 03:43:50] sabbybibi : so... they don't guarantee non-liquidation? (rado @02.50[utc] msg above speaks of "so I will never be liquidated")
[2016-10-31 03:44:38] sabbybibi : (but that non-liq "guarantee" may not be true in a thin order book surely?)
[2016-10-31 03:44:40] miramm1115 : if you use stop market you will not get liqiudated
[2016-10-31 03:44:48] CrazyEarner : Well so much for the zcash craze looks like the highs finished and the lows only jsut begining lol
[2016-10-31 03:45:00] miramm1115 : you might get worse price if the orderbook is really thin
[2016-10-31 03:45:42] sabbybibi : miramm1115: ...but in a thin order book, the "worse" price might be *so* "worse" as to go past your liq price surely!
[2016-10-31 03:46:03] sabbybibi : (sorry if i'm not getting it lol - noob here :D)
[2016-10-31 03:46:28] DangerandPlay : so what the FUCK happened to zcash???
[2016-10-31 03:47:15] CrazyEarner : Simple people just 10000% dumped on it and killed the price no doubt pump dump with bots
[2016-10-31 03:48:18] DangerandPlay : :( lost a lot of money
[2016-10-31 03:48:57] miramm1115 : yes, execution price on stop market can be worse than liq price theoretically but you will not lose maintenance margin @sabbybibi
[2016-10-31 03:49:00] CrazyEarner : I would of gone short on site at begining but bought gpu instead lol
[2016-10-31 03:49:37] sabbybibi : miramm1115: i'm trading zec just now - maybe as a noob i shouldn't but you gotta learn by doing
[2016-10-31 03:50:05] public username 321 : best is to not get liquidated at all ...
[2016-10-31 03:50:09] sabbybibi : order book is v. thin, so far i've just usec "limit" but you're recommending "stop market"?
[2016-10-31 03:54:45] sabbybibi : the way i see things in ZEC-land is this: 0.24 is absurdly high *as a Dec.30th opinion*
[2016-10-31 03:55:50] sabbybibi : DEc.30th will be full-strength mining reward, and 0.24 would mean ZEC miners would be throwing (almost) the same amount of real resource consumption at ZEC as bitcoin miners are throwing at bitcoin!
[2016-10-31 03:56:03] sabbybibi : not credible, i think!
[2016-10-31 03:56:42] sabbybibi : so... since we're trading NOW on our opinions of DEC30th, we should regard 0.24 for THEN to be ridiculously high
[2016-10-31 03:57:03] iefken : cant we have some profit on the way?
[2016-10-31 03:57:29] sabbybibi : so, i'm shorting... but the order book is so thin, and the price moves are so huge, that liquidation is a huge possibility on the journey between now and Dec.30th!
[2016-10-31 03:58:07] iefken : true :p
[2016-10-31 04:51:58] Mm bot : How to short ZEC ? Garenteed profit in December
[2016-10-31 05:08:48] miramm1115 : sabbybibi: stop orders on zec won't save you
[2016-10-31 05:10:20] coinrun : When is bitmex going to price mark Polo?
[2016-10-31 05:10:34] sabbybibi : miramm1115: yeah, that's what i thought
[2016-10-31 05:18:18] Chronuslll : whats the avaerage margin you use?
[2016-10-31 05:22:38] sabbybibi : Chronuslll: (on zec which is v. risky) about 1.0x (shorting)
[2016-10-31 05:25:01] sabbybibi : ...actually, i thunk the main thing making ZEC so illiquid on bitmex is the units of 1 zec each, which used to be small but is now huge
[2016-10-31 05:25:19] sabbybibi : if we could change to milliZEC we'd have a much more lively market!
[2016-10-31 05:25:54] Chronuslll : hmm what about xbt
[2016-10-31 05:26:05] sabbybibi : (or just change from integers to real numbers)
[2016-10-31 05:26:54] sabbybibi : well, the btc/usd market is listed in usd even though it's all really made of btc
[2016-10-31 05:27:06] sabbybibi : so the integer arithmetic doesn't really cause problems
[2016-10-31 05:27:33] sabbybibi : but the btc<->zec market, wow, integers are hopelessly coarse grained whether listed in btc or zec!
[2016-10-31 05:27:53] sabbybibi : roll on milliZEC please bitmex!!!
[2016-10-31 05:28:08] DangerandPlay : i had really high hopes for mining zcash and bought some rigs... getting about 200 sols/hour now and mining a pitiful amount. Just give in????
[2016-10-31 05:28:18] DangerandPlay : 200 sols/sec
[2016-10-31 05:29:30] sabbybibi : DangerandPlay: 200 sols/sec is about a ten-thousandth of the entire network, so you should earn about 0.05zec/day