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[2016-10-30 22:11:59] rapidtrades : can't we do it to 5 and avoid the expensive coins
[2016-10-30 22:12:03] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-10-30 22:12:10] wurstgelee : that what i just said
[2016-10-30 22:12:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:12:19] rapidtrades : only 18 zecs above 5
[2016-10-30 22:12:26] wurstgelee : u dont need 5 for adl
[2016-10-30 22:12:33] rapidtrades : we would margin 90% shorts and get 90% ADLed
[2016-10-30 22:12:40] wurstgelee : because of those shorts recently opened @ .25 to .30
[2016-10-30 22:12:44] wurstgelee : a lot of them
[2016-10-30 22:13:07] rapidtrades : yeah anything below 1 will be easy....could even cause a cascade
[2016-10-30 22:13:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.008003
[2016-10-30 22:13:39] Rado : I have some shorts at 0.32, but mine will not be liquidated
[2016-10-30 22:13:55] Rado : wow XMR back to 0.008
[2016-10-30 22:14:03] Rado : why didn't I buy at 0.006
[2016-10-30 22:15:27] wurstgelee : i missed the adrenaline injection to the alt market completely today :/
[2016-10-30 22:15:50] wurstgelee : i put a couple of btc into dgb @ 44/45 today
[2016-10-30 22:15:52] Rado : LSK funding rate -2.1069%
[2016-10-30 22:15:52] wurstgelee : thats all
[2016-10-30 22:16:03] Rado : ?
[2016-10-30 22:16:26] sleger : Rado: dont tell, just surf the funding wave
[2016-10-30 22:16:48] Rado : I will
[2016-10-30 22:16:57] rapidtrades : lot of times spread is bigger then funding so u can't rly surf it on alts
[2016-10-30 22:17:07] Rado : I hope it doesn't fall bellow 0.0002
[2016-10-30 22:17:29] Rado : 120k bid right now rapidtrades
[2016-10-30 22:17:41] rapidtrades : yeah seems liquid
[2016-10-30 22:17:46] miramm1115 : you guys are funny, I'm going to add some hidden asks above polo price
[2016-10-30 22:17:55] rapidtrades : good
[2016-10-30 22:18:15] rapidtrades : make sure liq is above 10 where daddy mex has ur back
[2016-10-30 22:18:35] miramm1115 : yeah, it's on cross
[2016-10-30 22:18:43] rapidtrades : idiot
[2016-10-30 22:19:31] miramm1115 : well, good luck ;-)
[2016-10-30 22:19:57] rapidtrades : we don't need luck, we have bigger pockets then u
[2016-10-30 22:20:52] rapidtrades : so what would happen...in theory if we would push it to 5 or 10 and then crash it down to polo price
[2016-10-30 22:20:53] HjP : miramm1115, what does "on cross" mean?
[2016-10-30 22:21:02] rapidtrades : first buy then sell into any bids
[2016-10-30 22:21:11] rapidtrades : so we make 2xmoney
[2016-10-30 22:21:13] sleger : HjP: like Jesus
[2016-10-30 22:21:19] wurstgelee : HjP: cross margin mode. all his balance gets used at margin
[2016-10-30 22:21:27] rapidtrades : LIKE JESUS DID
[2016-10-30 22:21:36] rapidtrades : he put everything on the line
[2016-10-30 22:21:40] rapidtrades : hence the saying
[2016-10-30 22:21:41] wurstgelee : if u have enough balance, it puts your margin call price above 10
[2016-10-30 22:21:47] wurstgelee : therefore god mode atm
[2016-10-30 22:22:18] numero : can still get ADLed though right?
[2016-10-30 22:22:20] Tetsuo : you´re welcome to buy into my hidden asks
[2016-10-30 22:22:28] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:22:30] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: don't be a dick
[2016-10-30 22:22:34] rapidtrades : it's free money
[2016-10-30 22:22:45] sleger : Tetsuo: why not joining ?
[2016-10-30 22:23:13] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: should have used the hidden chat , as usual, now everyone waits to make money from your attempted short squeeze
[2016-10-30 22:23:34] numero : well congrats guys, you cleared all us noobs out of the chat
[2016-10-30 22:23:39] rapidtrades : they f*cked us over with the cap and the shorts shat on us...not like they can phone the cftc
[2016-10-30 22:23:41] numero : mission accomplished
[2016-10-30 22:24:28] Rado : numero: are youscared?
[2016-10-30 22:24:37] rapidtrades : he looks scared
[2016-10-30 22:24:41] numero : Rado: no i've been long whole time ;)
[2016-10-30 22:24:45] rapidtrades : i mean he reads scared
[2016-10-30 22:26:02] wurstgelee : hm. i should mine a little zec
[2016-10-30 22:26:11] wurstgelee : want to know how profitabilty is atm
[2016-10-30 22:26:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:28:07] numero : all talk, no action
[2016-10-30 22:28:12] numero : I'm disappointed
[2016-10-30 22:28:32] rapidtrades : nothing i can do with 4 btc...already long at 3
[2016-10-30 22:28:44] rapidtrades : takes a ton of margin
[2016-10-30 22:29:09] rapidtrades : rado said 40 sleger hasn't said anything
[2016-10-30 22:29:24] mjones : zec going up
[2016-10-30 22:29:26] rapidtrades : we need 60 more minimum
[2016-10-30 22:30:10] numero : where's coinrun when you need him
[2016-10-30 22:30:20] rapidtrades : mjones: how much u can give for the effort
[2016-10-30 22:30:41] mjones : i can only pump bitmex zec
[2016-10-30 22:30:48] mjones : adl some shorts
[2016-10-30 22:31:02] mjones : just mark it to polo price.
[2016-10-30 22:31:25] rapidtrades : idk that would clear 70% of shorts...why not go the extra mile
[2016-10-30 22:32:24] rapidtrades : the bulk of the asks is below polo
[2016-10-30 22:33:29] wurstgelee : noooo
[2016-10-30 22:33:35] wurstgelee : more fills first please
[2016-10-30 22:33:36] wurstgelee : ffs
[2016-10-30 22:38:27] wurstgelee : daily volume on polo 740 zec
[2016-10-30 22:38:28] wurstgelee : roughly
[2016-10-30 22:38:34] rapidtrades : no its 850
[2016-10-30 22:38:44] wurstgelee : mebbe
[2016-10-30 22:38:50] rapidtrades : 24hr Volume: 1166.07612084 BTC / 824.92258811 ZEC
[2016-10-30 22:38:54] wurstgelee : oh
[2016-10-30 22:38:56] wurstgelee : k
[2016-10-30 22:39:05] wurstgelee : 1000 soon then
[2016-10-30 22:39:10] rapidtrades : yeah
[2016-10-30 22:39:17] wurstgelee : time to mark that shit
[2016-10-30 22:39:19] rapidtrades : excuse time
[2016-10-30 22:39:35] rapidtrades : 'guys deposits are not healthy enough yet'
[2016-10-30 22:39:43] wurstgelee : todays price qualifies as "stable"
[2016-10-30 22:39:49] wurstgelee : cant be the excuse
[2016-10-30 22:40:03] wurstgelee : lol oh yes
[2016-10-30 22:40:07] rapidtrades : if we wait for that 24h announcement then we will have time to buy without being tied to polo
[2016-10-30 22:40:08] wurstgelee : healthy deposits... ;)
[2016-10-30 22:40:16] rapidtrades : and in 24h we'll have the support at polo
[2016-10-30 22:40:16] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-30 22:40:19] wurstgelee : i like those 24 tbh
[2016-10-30 22:40:28] wurstgelee : no surprises while asleep
[2016-10-30 22:40:40] wurstgelee : .86 atm btw
[2016-10-30 22:40:42] rapidtrades : so at least we know we get smth for buying...around 70-80 cents
[2016-10-30 22:40:43] wurstgelee : bouncing
[2016-10-30 22:40:54] wurstgelee : .9
[2016-10-30 22:41:40] rapidtrades : definitely bouncing here, this could be vicious
[2016-10-30 22:41:44] mjones : zec yeah buddy
[2016-10-30 22:41:58] rapidtrades : with so many shorts below 1
[2016-10-30 22:42:29] wurstgelee : .92
[2016-10-30 22:42:31] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 22:42:41] rapidtrades : it will be 1 soon
[2016-10-30 22:42:58] mjmj83 : and then it goes back to 0.5
[2016-10-30 22:43:10] wurstgelee : "back"?
[2016-10-30 22:43:21] wurstgelee : i cant recall .5 tbh
[2016-10-30 22:43:21] rapidtrades : no we're overdue for a massive rally
[2016-10-30 22:43:24] mjones : not enough dumb money on here any more. everyone got rekt
[2016-10-30 22:43:36] rapidtrades : 100-300% from lows
[2016-10-30 22:43:38] NL007 : liquidation incoming if we go higher with zec
[2016-10-30 22:43:40] wurstgelee : friday was better tbh
[2016-10-30 22:43:46] wurstgelee : regarding dumb money
[2016-10-30 22:43:47] mjones : lost over 1000 users since zec pump
[2016-10-30 22:43:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:43:53] rapidtrades : so 1.5 or higher
[2016-10-30 22:43:59] wurstgelee : yeah, because its trading on polo now
[2016-10-30 22:44:05] wurstgelee : so polo users went back there
[2016-10-30 22:44:20] wurstgelee : .98
[2016-10-30 22:44:21] rapidtrades : polo users went there cos everyone got marginned here
[2016-10-30 22:44:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:44:35] mjones : mark to polo price. going above 1. i should have moved all my money to polo this morning and just bought zec. massive pump incoming
[2016-10-30 22:45:11] rapidtrades : yeah easy 2-3 on polo imo these short sqeezes can be vicious
[2016-10-30 22:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.327875
[2016-10-30 22:45:26] wurstgelee : polo cant squeeze shorts
[2016-10-30 22:45:30] wurstgelee : there are no shorts ;)
[2016-10-30 22:45:34] rapidtrades : sentiment was 99% ZEC bearish in this chat and no polo, that usually doesn't end well
[2016-10-30 22:45:53] mjones : massive margin calls though if price marked to spot. it would be wild
[2016-10-30 22:46:06] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-30 22:46:07] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 22:46:12] wurstgelee : looking forward to it
[2016-10-30 22:46:13] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 22:46:29] wurstgelee : qualifiying volume is reached in a few hours
[2016-10-30 22:46:37] wurstgelee : 1000 zec
[2016-10-30 22:46:54] mjmj83 : And then it takes another 24 hours
[2016-10-30 22:47:01] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-30 22:47:01] iefken : already reached that according to https://explorer.zcha.in/
[2016-10-30 22:47:06] rapidtrades : yeah that bar was set too high
[2016-10-30 22:47:12] wurstgelee : iefken: per exchange iirc
[2016-10-30 22:47:17] rapidtrades : cos as time goes on ppl lose interest
[2016-10-30 22:47:18] wurstgelee : mjmj83: so?
[2016-10-30 22:47:22] rapidtrades : and volume drops
[2016-10-30 22:47:30] mjmj83 : 24 hours after their announcement.. still can take 12 hours
[2016-10-30 22:47:46] rapidtrades : it really should've been marked to polo days ago but we all know the scam bitmex is running on ZEC
[2016-10-30 22:47:47] mjmj83 : You expect that ZEC will trade around 1 btc tomorrow?
[2016-10-30 22:47:58] mjmj83 : With all the miners dumping their ZEC's?
[2016-10-30 22:47:59] wurstgelee : in a week, so 5 days from now, total supply will be ~ 3k
[2016-10-30 22:48:06] rapidtrades : ZEC is trading at 0.9 now so yes @mjmj83
[2016-10-30 22:48:07] y1uy : mjmj83: what announcement?
[2016-10-30 22:48:08] rapidtrades : 1 is easy
[2016-10-30 22:48:10] wurstgelee : i doubt we wont have marking until then
[2016-10-30 22:48:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.350000
[2016-10-30 22:48:33] wurstgelee : there we go
[2016-10-30 22:48:35] mjmj83 : y1uy: the announcement of bitmex that it will do the marking
[2016-10-30 22:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.376250
[2016-10-30 22:48:41] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2016-10-30 22:48:48] rapidtrades : f*ck the shorts....wish i bought it myself
[2016-10-30 22:48:55] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lol u didnt? ;)
[2016-10-30 22:48:57] y1uy : mjmj83: how wil lthat affect the price?
[2016-10-30 22:49:01] rapidtrades : to have that sweet feeling of revenge
[2016-10-30 22:49:03] y1uy : XMR breakout
[2016-10-30 22:49:05] y1uy : 4h
[2016-10-30 22:49:20] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: well no we didn't agree....we need sleger money
[2016-10-30 22:49:20] mjmj83 : y1uy: depends on what the price at polo is at that time
[2016-10-30 22:49:36] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: no reason not to get some orders filled .3 - .25 ;)
[2016-10-30 22:49:50] rapidtrades : i don't average losers
[2016-10-30 22:49:54] y1uy : mjmj83: the marking is the price on the source exchange right??
[2016-10-30 22:49:58] rapidtrades : plus i can't trust bitmex
[2016-10-30 22:51:54] mjmj83 : y1uy: correct
[2016-10-30 22:52:16] wurstgelee : the source exchange will be polo
[2016-10-30 22:52:21] mjmj83 : Right now it's still 6x more profitable to mine zcash compared to Ethereum.. if i'm correct
[2016-10-30 22:52:24] wurstgelee : as usual
[2016-10-30 22:52:26] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 694.13
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1233 @ 694.18
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 694.11
[2016-10-30 22:52:33] mjmj83 : so miners will dump it
[2016-10-30 22:52:52] wurstgelee : btc losing momentum
[2016-10-30 22:53:02] wurstgelee : altsareback etc
[2016-10-30 22:53:02] sleger : btc going down is also reducing available margin of zec shorters
[2016-10-30 22:53:09] wurstgelee : hehe :D
[2016-10-30 22:53:18] wurstgelee : that
[2016-10-30 22:53:22] rapidtrades : good, the perfect storm
[2016-10-30 22:53:34] rapidtrades : it was a 'sure bet' they said
[2016-10-30 22:53:43] wurstgelee : looking shitty for .3 shorts here
[2016-10-30 22:53:50] rapidtrades : they were wrong :)
[2016-10-30 22:53:53] y1uy : i think btc will consolidate at 680-690 for a few days
[2016-10-30 22:53:54] wurstgelee : but i have been preaching that all day.... :p
[2016-10-30 22:54:06] wurstgelee : y1uy: which would mean that alts pump
[2016-10-30 22:54:11] wurstgelee : they are already doing that
[2016-10-30 22:54:12] wurstgelee : right now ;)
[2016-10-30 22:54:30] wurstgelee : consolidation -> alt moon
[2016-10-30 22:54:42] y1uy : wurstgelee: exactly
[2016-10-30 22:55:07] wurstgelee : polo top volume list is pretty clear about that :p
[2016-10-30 22:55:24] NL007 : i wouldnt be suprised if zec is pumped over 1btc again
[2016-10-30 22:55:32] wurstgelee : NL007: not at all
[2016-10-30 22:56:02] wurstgelee : perfect whale toy with that low supply
[2016-10-30 22:56:13] wurstgelee : polo whales will want to have some fun with that
[2016-10-30 22:56:16] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:56:34] NL007 : wurstgelee: for now yes not in 72hrs
[2016-10-30 22:56:50] wurstgelee : NL007: in 3 days?
[2016-10-30 22:57:11] wurstgelee : supply will be 1300 then...
[2016-10-30 22:57:22] wurstgelee : 20% locked dev and vc funds included
[2016-10-30 22:57:33] wurstgelee : so ~ 1 k
[2016-10-30 22:57:41] wurstgelee : thats nothing
[2016-10-30 22:57:57] NL007 : supply will be 4-5k
[2016-10-30 22:58:10] y1uy : antshares looks taty
[2016-10-30 22:58:13] y1uy : tasty
[2016-10-30 22:58:41] wurstgelee : NL007: maybe, my math is prob off today
[2016-10-30 22:58:43] wurstgelee : but even if...
[2016-10-30 22:58:47] wurstgelee : almost nothing
[2016-10-30 22:58:48] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:59:00] NL007 : wurstgelee: https://forum.z.cash/t/buy-or-sell-zcash/1511/35
[2016-10-30 22:59:14] wurstgelee : NL007: i have a different spreadsheet
[2016-10-30 22:59:21] wurstgelee : cba to check myself which one is right
[2016-10-30 22:59:34] wurstgelee : "few k" is precise enough for me tho
[2016-10-30 22:59:34] NL007 : wurstgelee: ok
[2016-10-30 22:59:36] Rado : People are happy to short at high 0.30s
[2016-10-30 23:00:10] rapidtrades : idk we have to rally sometime
[2016-10-30 23:00:23] rapidtrades : nothing goes down in a straight line
[2016-10-30 23:00:38] Rado : That was the rally
[2016-10-30 23:00:40] rapidtrades : on polo i mean, this place is a joke
[2016-10-30 23:00:48] rapidtrades : nah that was <50%
[2016-10-30 23:00:55] rapidtrades : after 2 days with 80% losses
[2016-10-30 23:01:07] Rado : Low 0.70s to 0.95
[2016-10-30 23:01:10] rapidtrades : has to be 100-200% imo
[2016-10-30 23:01:20] Rado : That's 20%
[2016-10-30 23:01:36] Rado : That will happen from sub 0.1
[2016-10-30 23:01:39] rapidtrades : 20% is nothing...it lost what 70% today?
[2016-10-30 23:02:24] rapidtrades : that wasn't the rally, they don't end in 5 mins
[2016-10-30 23:02:28] Rado : IMO only, I might be wrong
[2016-10-30 23:02:34] rapidtrades : dump was 3 days long
[2016-10-30 23:02:42] rapidtrades : at least 1 day of gainz
[2016-10-30 23:02:51] rapidtrades : just imo, as a long :)
[2016-10-30 23:05:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ7D`: Sell 1 @ 74388
[2016-10-30 23:05:45] wurstgelee : btc dumping and alts pumping will help to bounce zec easily. low supply as well
[2016-10-30 23:06:50] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-10-30 23:06:54] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-10-30 23:07:13] rapidtrades : 1.5 will be easy....2-3 bit harder but doable
[2016-10-30 23:07:32] Gr33d : such a bagholder.
[2016-10-30 23:07:38] wurstgelee : will possibly dump down to .5 or something tho
[2016-10-30 23:07:48] rapidtrades : no it's cool
[2016-10-30 23:08:03] rfcdejong : who is that whale with 150k USD sell wall
[2016-10-30 23:08:14] wurstgelee : sleger
[2016-10-30 23:08:24] wurstgelee : i generally suspect him
[2016-10-30 23:08:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:08:44] rapidtrades : i always think its sleger
[2016-10-30 23:08:47] rfcdejong : I'm new on bitmex, no idea what regular is... well not a whale with 100x leverage :)
[2016-10-30 23:09:12] Gr33d : rfcdejong: 0/
[2016-10-30 23:09:12] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: oh right, i remember you from polo trollbox
[2016-10-30 23:09:18] wurstgelee : not from here
[2016-10-30 23:09:22] wurstgelee : one of the pinks ;)
[2016-10-30 23:09:23] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: :)
[2016-10-30 23:09:27] Rado : ICYMI: China's Debt Has Grown $4.5 Trillion In Past 12 Months, More Than The US, Japan And Europe Combined
[2016-10-30 23:09:31] Gr33d : rfcdejong: Welcome to ButtMex
[2016-10-30 23:09:53] rfcdejong : Gr33d: lol
[2016-10-30 23:10:00] rfcdejong : Gr33d: is red in here a moderator ?
[2016-10-30 23:10:05] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: lol
[2016-10-30 23:10:08] wurstgelee : moderator
[2016-10-30 23:10:09] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 23:10:10] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-30 23:10:19] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: no moderators in the trollbox?
[2016-10-30 23:10:23] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-30 23:10:26] wurstgelee : not really
[2016-10-30 23:10:26] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: everyone has a different color
[2016-10-30 23:10:31] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: oh
[2016-10-30 23:10:35] rapidtrades : mods are hiding this weekend
[2016-10-30 23:10:38] wurstgelee : admins ...sometimes...
[2016-10-30 23:10:38] mjmj83 : moderators and bitmex people will have logo next to their name
[2016-10-30 23:10:42] wurstgelee : havent seen them today tho
[2016-10-30 23:10:43] Gr33d : oh. My btc short liquidated. That's nice.
[2016-10-30 23:10:51] numero : Rado: yeah the china crisis is coming
[2016-10-30 23:10:53] rapidtrades : i guess this is better then buttfinex attacking their victims on reddot
[2016-10-30 23:11:08] rfcdejong : I only moved a very small amount of BTC in here, to play with it
[2016-10-30 23:11:22] mjmj83 : Does anyone know how to compare the current mining power in Zcash with Ethereum for example?
[2016-10-30 23:11:30] rfcdejong : ROE at +48.67% :)
[2016-10-30 23:11:34] rfcdejong : whatever that means
[2016-10-30 23:11:39] rapidtrades : yeah we did it this morning, see archive @mjmj83
[2016-10-30 23:11:47] mjmj83 : thanks rapid
[2016-10-30 23:12:17] rfcdejong : test
[2016-10-30 23:12:18] rapidtrades : also smone else said that ZEC took 33% of hashing power from ETH, not sure how acurate is that
[2016-10-30 23:12:26] rfcdejong : oh I can talk to myself
[2016-10-30 23:12:31] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 23:12:31] rfcdejong : yes you can
[2016-10-30 23:12:54] rfcdejong : :)
[2016-10-30 23:13:09] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: can't find anything in the archive.. it doesn't go back so far..
[2016-10-30 23:13:19] rapidtrades : the API does
[2016-10-30 23:13:28] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: thanks again
[2016-10-30 23:13:29] rfcdejong : I'm so going to short on ZEC in here :)
[2016-10-30 23:13:39] Gr33d : rfcdejong: Good choice.
[2016-10-30 23:13:44] rapidtrades : agree
[2016-10-30 23:13:44] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: watch out what you say here
[2016-10-30 23:13:57] rapidtrades : what price are u shorting at?
[2016-10-30 23:13:59] wurstgelee : BITMEX TIP: Hardly anything will get you banned from the Trollbox. Please have fun with all sorts of HYPE/FUD.Thank you
[2016-10-30 23:14:01] rapidtrades : just curious
[2016-10-30 23:14:11] rfcdejong : mjmj83: why would it be anything different in here than on polo lol
[2016-10-30 23:14:17] rapidtrades : and what would be ur liquidation price @rfcdejong
[2016-10-30 23:14:26] mjmj83 : rapidtrades: haha +1
[2016-10-30 23:14:29] rapidtrades : asking for a friend
[2016-10-30 23:14:36] Gr33d : rfcdejong: There's no ZEC on Bitmex, only a ZEC future
[2016-10-30 23:14:40] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: hahhaa
[2016-10-30 23:14:41] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 23:15:07] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: no idea, I have to figure out the future stuff.. but I think ZEC is worth way less than it is current on the future price
[2016-10-30 23:15:19] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: the u should short :p
[2016-10-30 23:15:25] rapidtrades : make sure to short more then @rfcdejong
[2016-10-30 23:15:33] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: haha
[2016-10-30 23:16:08] mjmj83 : next 24 hours another +/-500 ZECs will be mined...
[2016-10-30 23:16:19] wurstgelee : peanuts
[2016-10-30 23:16:43] rfcdejong : I can also manipulate polo a bit and on specific coins and see if people in here panic :)
[2016-10-30 23:16:53] mjmj83 : At a price of 1 btc that'll be $350.000/day
[2016-10-30 23:17:08] rapidtrades : that's nothing
[2016-10-30 23:17:09] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: u wont.
[2016-10-30 23:17:10] mjmj83 : that's 27% of bitcoin
[2016-10-30 23:17:19] rapidtrades : like i said, nothing
[2016-10-30 23:17:37] mjmj83 : i don't know what mining power actually is in ZEC, but I don't believe it's anyway near 27%
[2016-10-30 23:17:46] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: will have to be carefull yes
[2016-10-30 23:17:57] rapidtrades : it's actually higher then u think
[2016-10-30 23:18:16] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: I rather buy when there is blood and sell when people fomo
[2016-10-30 23:18:21] rapidtrades : hold the line u polofags
[2016-10-30 23:18:29] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: ofc. ;)
[2016-10-30 23:18:38] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: but the correlation with bitmex is still unknown to me
[2016-10-30 23:18:56] rapidtrades : there is no correlation atm
[2016-10-30 23:18:58] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: dump to .5 and bounce...in the next few hours probably something like that.
[2016-10-30 23:19:17] rapidtrades : double bottom at 0.70-0.75 then bounce
[2016-10-30 23:19:20] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: I saw ETH going up on polo and people buy ETH here as well
[2016-10-30 23:19:27] rfcdejong : rapidtrades, just missing some liquidity
[2016-10-30 23:19:28] wurstgelee : "probably". more a wild guessing
[2016-10-30 23:19:44] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: we have hidden orders here.
[2016-10-30 23:19:51] wurstgelee : visible orderbooks are misleading
[2016-10-30 23:19:53] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:20:02] wurstgelee : iceberg orders etc..
[2016-10-30 23:20:07] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: hehe
[2016-10-30 23:20:16] rapidtrades : so what do u guys plan to do when the 24h notice hits?
[2016-10-30 23:20:24] rapidtrades : buy zec to polo or what
[2016-10-30 23:20:26] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: what 24h ?
[2016-10-30 23:20:40] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: I cannot manipulate ZEC cause I have 0 ZEC lol
[2016-10-30 23:20:46] rapidtrades : good
[2016-10-30 23:20:48] wurstgelee : for example i am pretty sure that there are way more than 143k waiting to get filled @ the ask side :p
[2016-10-30 23:20:56] rfcdejong : rapidtrades, lost only 1 BTC on it being stupid lol
[2016-10-30 23:21:39] rapidtrades : zec volume at 850...slowly going up
[2016-10-30 23:21:39] rfcdejong : oh I just bought some BTC in here...
[2016-10-30 23:21:51] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: yeah, thanks
[2016-10-30 23:21:57] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-10-30 23:22:10] iefken : rapidtrades: zec volume where?
[2016-10-30 23:22:19] wurstgelee : iefken: polo
[2016-10-30 23:22:32] iefken : my polo says 1100 already
[2016-10-30 23:22:41] wurstgelee : iefken: 24h ?
[2016-10-30 23:22:44] rapidtrades : that's in BTC i think
[2016-10-30 23:22:47] wurstgelee : ZEC volume?
[2016-10-30 23:22:52] wurstgelee : not BTC volume.... :D
[2016-10-30 23:23:09] rapidtrades : we need 1000 ZEC before bitmex can give us another lie
[2016-10-30 23:23:10] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes 24h BTC volume
[2016-10-30 23:23:12] wurstgelee : 24hr Volume: 1140.55829980 BTC / 852.45825842 ZEC
[2016-10-30 23:23:28] wurstgelee : vol of ZEC is criteria for switching marking to polo
[2016-10-30 23:23:33] rapidtrades : if we rally in next few hours we should hit it easily
[2016-10-30 23:23:36] iefken : sorry my bad
[2016-10-30 23:23:43] rapidtrades : volume will spike
[2016-10-30 23:24:24] rfcdejong : wow I love trading in here already
[2016-10-30 23:24:25] rapidtrades : if it keeps going down ppl will slowly lose interest in the one true coin
[2016-10-30 23:24:49] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: its for grown ups ;)
[2016-10-30 23:25:02] Rado : rfcdejong: did you lace a trade?
[2016-10-30 23:25:13] Rado : place
[2016-10-30 23:25:28] rfcdejong : Rado: catched a dump on XBTUSD around 691
[2016-10-30 23:25:50] rfcdejong : Rado: still learning bitmex interface tho ;)
[2016-10-30 23:26:02] Gr33d : BTC bear trap
[2016-10-30 23:26:02] Rado : good luck
[2016-10-30 23:26:08] rfcdejong : ROE at 78.14% ?
[2016-10-30 23:26:11] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: biggest difference to polo: its fucking fast
[2016-10-30 23:26:12] rfcdejong : what does ROE mean
[2016-10-30 23:26:20] wurstgelee : return on investment
[2016-10-30 23:26:24] wurstgelee : ha
[2016-10-30 23:26:26] Gr33d : lel
[2016-10-30 23:26:26] rapidtrades : nothing, its misleading useless stat
[2016-10-30 23:26:28] rfcdejong : oh lol I should had known
[2016-10-30 23:26:32] wurstgelee : *equity
[2016-10-30 23:26:46] rfcdejong : it seems it is compared to the Mark Price
[2016-10-30 23:26:51] wurstgelee : it is
[2016-10-30 23:26:55] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-30 23:26:58] Gr33d : yup
[2016-10-30 23:27:13] rfcdejong : will Entry Price go lower after selling above ?
[2016-10-30 23:27:22] rfcdejong : just like margin on poloniex -> Base Price
[2016-10-30 23:27:26] sleger : no
[2016-10-30 23:27:32] rapidtrades : for example mine says -178% on zec....what does it mean?
[2016-10-30 23:27:44] rapidtrades : how can i lose more then 100% lol
[2016-10-30 23:27:46] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lol :D
[2016-10-30 23:27:50] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: eaily
[2016-10-30 23:27:50] rfcdejong : rapidtrades: zec as a future contract lol
[2016-10-30 23:27:53] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-30 23:27:57] Gr33d : Means you need to stop longing ZEC m8
[2016-10-30 23:28:01] rapidtrades : see it's a useless stat
[2016-10-30 23:28:15] kradiav : rapidtrades: you long ZEC and get rekt with fomo bonus
[2016-10-30 23:28:20] Rado : rapidtrades: you can lose more than 100% of teh invested in the trade
[2016-10-30 23:28:29] rapidtrades : 100 of margin
[2016-10-30 23:28:33] Rado : since it gets margin from your other available BTC
[2016-10-30 23:28:34] rapidtrades : not 100 of invested
[2016-10-30 23:28:36] rfcdejong : ZEC will go down to 0.1 BTC or even lower
[2016-10-30 23:28:41] Chronuslll : Whats your guys average position size ?
[2016-10-30 23:28:42] rapidtrades : that's why it's a useless stat
[2016-10-30 23:28:55] sleger : Chronuslll: i dont have any guys
[2016-10-30 23:29:05] wurstgelee : sleger: haha
[2016-10-30 23:29:07] wurstgelee : n1
[2016-10-30 23:29:07] Rado : Chronuslll: on which instrument?
[2016-10-30 23:29:19] Gr33d : 43% ROE whoo
[2016-10-30 23:29:27] Chronuslll : Lol good one
[2016-10-30 23:29:39] Gr33d : shame it's only 0.0013 BTC
[2016-10-30 23:29:53] mjmj83 : rfcdejong: why do you think that?
[2016-10-30 23:29:57] Chronuslll : Xbtcusd
[2016-10-30 23:30:16] rfcdejong : mjmj83: exponential miner reward increase
[2016-10-30 23:30:17] Chronuslll : Rado: xbtcusd
[2016-10-30 23:30:18] rapidtrades : zec testing lows and bouncing hard
[2016-10-30 23:30:22] Rado : 10k-30k
[2016-10-30 23:30:26] rapidtrades : boom bitches, blink and u missed it
[2016-10-30 23:30:32] rapidtrades : 0.75>0.82
[2016-10-30 23:30:33] rfcdejong : mjmj83: and ZCoin was a scam as well, same people
[2016-10-30 23:30:44] Chronuslll : New to bitmex
[2016-10-30 23:31:40] imabeast : at this rate zec will be .5 in 12 hours
[2016-10-30 23:31:56] Rado : imabeast: agreed
[2016-10-30 23:32:01] wurstgelee : imabeast: yes, thats my guess too
[2016-10-30 23:32:26] wurstgelee : .5 will hold tho
[2016-10-30 23:32:37] wurstgelee : if it goes that low...
[2016-10-30 23:32:45] rfcdejong : omg my "margin balance" is double of my deposit balance... I'm going to deposit more in here lol
[2016-10-30 23:32:54] Rado : wurstgelee: not it will not
[2016-10-30 23:32:58] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: bitmex is crack ;)
[2016-10-30 23:33:01] Rado : it's going to 0.1
[2016-10-30 23:33:07] imabeast : i honestly dont think it will bounce until its below .1 haha
[2016-10-30 23:33:10] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes I'm going to be addicted
[2016-10-30 23:33:10] wurstgelee : actually worse than crack
[2016-10-30 23:33:25] miramm1115 : deposit more, BitMEX is the best exchange
[2016-10-30 23:33:38] rfcdejong : I would eat that 150k USD wall
[2016-10-30 23:33:44] rfcdejong : oh where did it go
[2016-10-30 23:33:44] sleger : too late
[2016-10-30 23:33:48] wurstgelee : its gone
[2016-10-30 23:33:49] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 23:34:00] rapidtrades : sleger
[2016-10-30 23:34:09] vnzord : sure its the best garbage
[2016-10-30 23:34:09] rapidtrades : it's always sleger
[2016-10-30 23:34:22] rfcdejong : sleger are you on poloniex as well ?
[2016-10-30 23:34:32] sleger : nah i only trade the japanese contracts @rapidtrades
[2016-10-30 23:34:39] sleger : rfcdejong: yes but never on the chat
[2016-10-30 23:35:11] wurstgelee : polo chat gives me instant headache
[2016-10-30 23:35:13] rfcdejong : sleger: oke, guppy / fish / dolphin / whale / bill gates ?
[2016-10-30 23:35:18] rapidtrades : sleger: why? those are not liquid
[2016-10-30 23:35:31] rfcdejong : any other 3 digit club people in here? :D
[2016-10-30 23:35:38] sleger : rfcdejong: whats the limit for each ?
[2016-10-30 23:35:52] sleger : 3 digit is what ? 100btc?
[2016-10-30 23:35:59] rfcdejong : sleger: hard to tell, I would consider a 1000 BTC guy a whale
[2016-10-30 23:36:05] sleger : i have more
[2016-10-30 23:36:16] rapidtrades : asshole
[2016-10-30 23:36:21] Rado : lol
[2016-10-30 23:36:22] rfcdejong : sleger: 3 digit lol, 3 digit billion USD
[2016-10-30 23:36:23] wurstgelee : haha :D
[2016-10-30 23:36:34] rapidtrades : sleger: in actual BTC or USD
[2016-10-30 23:36:38] sleger : rfcdejong: that's 3 commas
[2016-10-30 23:36:44] sleger : the three commas club
[2016-10-30 23:36:49] kradiav : tres commas?
[2016-10-30 23:36:53] sleger : rapidtrades: in btc
[2016-10-30 23:36:57] wurstgelee : i dont have 3 digits here..i wouldnt trust an exchnage with 3 digits
[2016-10-30 23:36:58] rfcdejong : sleger: yes 3 comma's I ment :)
[2016-10-30 23:36:59] wurstgelee : *exchange
[2016-10-30 23:37:14] sleger : no i do not own a billion usd
[2016-10-30 23:37:18] rapidtrades : what....how did u even get 1000 btc
[2016-10-30 23:37:36] Rado : 1000 BTC is only 700k USD
[2016-10-30 23:37:37] sleger : via mtgox then stamp then finex
[2016-10-30 23:37:43] wurstgelee : i would think seleger made 50-100 on zec
[2016-10-30 23:37:51] sleger : wurstgelee: i lost on zec
[2016-10-30 23:37:57] wurstgelee : oh really?
[2016-10-30 23:37:59] Gr33d : lol wut
[2016-10-30 23:38:03] Gr33d : losing on zec?
[2016-10-30 23:38:04] wurstgelee : wouldnt have thought that
[2016-10-30 23:38:08] Gr33d : ...K.
[2016-10-30 23:38:09] rapidtrades : he shorted it at the start
[2016-10-30 23:38:12] imabeast : dump again zec
[2016-10-30 23:38:13] wurstgelee : oh right
[2016-10-30 23:38:14] sleger : yep, i screwed up there
[2016-10-30 23:38:25] rapidtrades : u shorted the one true coin
[2016-10-30 23:38:30] rfcdejong : sleger: you are not alone lol
[2016-10-30 23:38:40] rfcdejong : sleger, I even bought for the fun at 800 BTC
[2016-10-30 23:38:49] wurstgelee : rfcdejong: did u buy at polo? zec?
[2016-10-30 23:38:53] rfcdejong : sleger: very small amount gladly
[2016-10-30 23:38:56] wurstgelee : 800?
[2016-10-30 23:38:57] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-10-30 23:38:57] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: yes
[2016-10-30 23:38:59] sleger : then i was short at 10 and the stupid admins said they would remove the cap so i exited at 8 ....
[2016-10-30 23:39:05] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: only for 0.1 BTC or so
[2016-10-30 23:39:15] wurstgelee : ah ok
[2016-10-30 23:39:17] rapidtrades : sleger: i feel ya
[2016-10-30 23:39:19] wurstgelee : for the lulz
[2016-10-30 23:39:32] rapidtrades : bitmex f*cked so many ppl on that day
[2016-10-30 23:39:34] Rado : sleger: :( 10 short was nice
[2016-10-30 23:39:38] wurstgelee : sleger: i was long when they said they wouldnt. same shit ;)
[2016-10-30 23:39:39] rfcdejong : wurstgelee: saw it at 3000 and then 1000, bouncing alot so I decided to catch a bit and sell for double
[2016-10-30 23:39:40] Rado : I couldn't pull the trigger
[2016-10-30 23:39:41] wurstgelee : only small tho
[2016-10-30 23:40:16] rapidtrades : u know what would teach bitmex a lessson? spiking prices to 10 and margining their MM buddies
[2016-10-30 23:40:31] sleger : i dont think the mm ever played zec
[2016-10-30 23:40:36] RocketScience : I filled a 50$ order