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[2016-10-30 20:52:54] rapidtrades : they made money with this blunder so they'll do it again in a different market
[2016-10-30 20:53:27] rapidtrades : ppl don't learn until it bites them in the ass
[2016-10-30 20:54:16] NL007 : rapidtrades: true
[2016-10-30 20:55:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.271275
[2016-10-30 20:58:26] NL007 : zec longers watch out
[2016-10-30 20:58:34] fml : if you are long ZEC
[2016-10-30 20:58:36] fml : you deserves to get rekt
[2016-10-30 20:58:57] fml : and dont know the dynamics of the coin itself if you are in a long on ZEC you should read on the block reward structure
[2016-10-30 20:59:17] NL007 : if was yesterday short got rekt due a sudden spike
[2016-10-30 21:00:08] NL007 : but back in profit today
[2016-10-30 21:00:19] rektbyZEC : fml: what u think is value for zecz16?
[2016-10-30 21:00:38] fml : probably sub .01
[2016-10-30 21:00:38] rektbyZEC : btw... anyone know what high woulda been if limit up/down stayed?
[2016-10-30 21:00:59] fml : Right now block rewards are fractions of a coin which is why value is high and slowly bleeding when block 2k hits the rewards will go to 12.5
[2016-10-30 21:01:20] fml : inflation will hit so hard on block 20k, and the price will plummet on block 20100 when those rewards are confirmed
[2016-10-30 21:01:31] iefken : is there a link where you can see the blockchain live?
[2016-10-30 21:01:37] fml : zcha.in
[2016-10-30 21:01:49] fml : https://explorer.zcha.in/
[2016-10-30 21:02:27] iefken : thanks! hadnt found one yet
[2016-10-30 21:02:28] RoftheN : Too bad no hashrate graph
[2016-10-30 21:02:48] RoftheN : I love the enormous reduction in ETH hashrate caused by ZEC
[2016-10-30 21:04:44] rapidtrades : the one true coin shall rise again
[2016-10-30 21:05:08] RoftheN : And 'the difference is even bigger than ETC was
[2016-10-30 21:06:18] rektbyZEC : eth hashrate 7.5 -> 5.5 TH/s?
[2016-10-30 21:06:28] rektbyZEC : it is not a big drop
[2016-10-30 21:06:36] iefken : how can you get an account at that site @fml?
[2016-10-30 21:06:56] fml : at zchain? You dont get an account Its a block explorer ?
[2016-10-30 21:06:56] rektbyZEC : ?
[2016-10-30 21:07:00] RoftheN : It's pretty big im
[2016-10-30 21:07:16] RoftheN : Sure it didn't halve, but it's a huge drop
[2016-10-30 21:10:04] iefken : sorry youre right, and won't the reward be 80% of 12.5? with 20% for the devs?
[2016-10-30 21:11:50] RoftheN : is this poloniex or the DEV team: https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd ?
[2016-10-30 21:12:04] iefken : i would think the dev team
[2016-10-30 21:12:40] iefken : since its 20% of the total mining reward
[2016-10-30 21:12:46] fml : iefken: yes, idk if 20% is of 12.5 of that is the 80% but i know it will be alot of inflation
[2016-10-30 21:12:52] RoftheN : https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1SaATQbzURpG1qU3vz9Wfn3pwXoTqFtTq2
[2016-10-30 21:12:55] sleger : ^geniuses at work
[2016-10-30 21:12:58] RoftheN : one of those is dev, other is polo?
[2016-10-30 21:13:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.261675
[2016-10-30 21:13:43] RoftheN : T1Sa must be the dev team, as it has mined all blocks
[2016-10-30 21:15:27] rapidtrades : its a pool dummy
[2016-10-30 21:17:06] RoftheN : Oh then it's Suprnova maybe
[2016-10-30 21:17:34] zcasher7777 : 0.25 wawwwww xd
[2016-10-30 21:17:46] zcasher7777 : like i said at 0.10 buy
[2016-10-30 21:23:08] rapidtrades : can we ban all the zec-newbs from talking?
[2016-10-30 21:23:51] rapidtrades : 1 week old account minimum to chat?
[2016-10-30 21:25:28] sleger : and ban all the green from talking
[2016-10-30 21:25:30] sleger : oops
[2016-10-30 21:25:54] Cheese : What makes a green?
[2016-10-30 21:26:04] Cheese : Why am I purple
[2016-10-30 21:26:13] sleger : ouch sorry for you
[2016-10-30 21:26:14] werral : i want a mute function for the chat :P
[2016-10-30 21:26:20] sleger : tiny winnie is purple
[2016-10-30 21:26:33] rapidtrades : green=pro
[2016-10-30 21:26:44] NL007 : lol
[2016-10-30 21:27:28] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-10-30 21:27:49] rapidtrades : the specter goes from red to green, from poor to rich
[2016-10-30 21:28:16] rapidtrades : red symbolizes communism and the green is naturally money
[2016-10-30 21:28:59] sleger : rapidtrades: do you even own a couch, bro ?
[2016-10-30 21:29:07] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-10-30 21:29:24] numero : me neither :(
[2016-10-30 21:29:51] sleger : numero: you live in a basement ?
[2016-10-30 21:30:02] Apocalyptic : lol you guys have an interesting concept of realized PnL: in the wallet page I have 2016-10-31 05:00:00 - RealisedPNL
[2016-10-30 21:30:19] numero : sleger: I live in this new agey student condo dev
[2016-10-30 21:30:39] sleger : another underage kiddo
[2016-10-30 21:31:10] rapidtrades : he said student
[2016-10-30 21:31:12] numero : lol, depends on jurisdiction
[2016-10-30 21:31:55] sleger : see, 18-21
[2016-10-30 21:32:26] rapidtrades : see what? that's nowhere underage
[2016-10-30 21:33:26] sleger : 747 users, keeps coming down
[2016-10-30 21:33:33] wurstgelee : 30 should be minmum age required for trollbox
[2016-10-30 21:33:36] Rado : 0.30 no longer seem low for shorting
[2016-10-30 21:33:38] wurstgelee : maybe 35
[2016-10-30 21:33:44] rapidtrades : maybe 0
[2016-10-30 21:33:53] wurstgelee : maybe not
[2016-10-30 21:34:02] rapidtrades : this shit doesn't settle on index or on delivery
[2016-10-30 21:34:07] rapidtrades : it's total fiction
[2016-10-30 21:34:24] rapidtrades : 0 or million....who has the most money can push it around
[2016-10-30 21:35:30] Rado : rapidtrades: not really
[2016-10-30 21:35:41] Rado : it's still proportional to index price
[2016-10-30 21:35:48] rapidtrades : yes really...well 0 and 10
[2016-10-30 21:36:12] rapidtrades : sleger can bid up prices to 10, kill all the shorts then sell to 0.5
[2016-10-30 21:36:14] Rado : so can you push it to 10 if polo price is at 1?
[2016-10-30 21:36:22] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 21:36:23] wurstgelee : !!!!
[2016-10-30 21:36:27] Rado : I don't think so
[2016-10-30 21:36:29] rapidtrades : doesn't matter, everythng is on last now
[2016-10-30 21:36:39] wurstgelee : Rado: it is
[2016-10-30 21:36:45] sleger : i'd need to deposit more here
[2016-10-30 21:36:46] numero : sleger: how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
[2016-10-30 21:36:46] Rado : I will be shorting at 5 big time
[2016-10-30 21:36:50] wurstgelee : thats the meaning of "lastPrice" marking
[2016-10-30 21:36:55] rapidtrades : sleger: :)
[2016-10-30 21:36:55] Rado : not only sleger has a lot of coins
[2016-10-30 21:36:55] sleger : numero: 30s
[2016-10-30 21:37:11] wurstgelee : deep pockets can easily push high to mc and cause ADL
[2016-10-30 21:37:14] wurstgelee : safe money
[2016-10-30 21:37:16] Rado : there are other people that will jump on the opportunity to make easy money
[2016-10-30 21:37:22] zcasher7777 : democracy please
[2016-10-30 21:37:27] Rado : market is not so easy to push
[2016-10-30 21:37:31] wurstgelee : ofc it is
[2016-10-30 21:37:39] wurstgelee : just a question of btc
[2016-10-30 21:37:46] rapidtrades : 24h volume is 300 btc...that's very small
[2016-10-30 21:38:05] rapidtrades : there's only 127 btc to 10
[2016-10-30 21:38:22] rapidtrades : so u need 60-70 btc
[2016-10-30 21:38:26] rapidtrades : to margin call all
[2016-10-30 21:38:28] Rado : rapidtrades: my current liquidation price is 15
[2016-10-30 21:38:28] wurstgelee : so u need less than 70 on 2x ....plus an unknown amount for hidden orders ;)
[2016-10-30 21:38:28] Rado : lol
[2016-10-30 21:38:31] Rado : so I am safe
[2016-10-30 21:38:32] wurstgelee : totally doable tho
[2016-10-30 21:38:37] wurstgelee : Rado: you are
[2016-10-30 21:38:45] rapidtrades : absolutely, smone should do it for the LULs
[2016-10-30 21:39:12] rapidtrades : hey we prolly have enugh together to do it
[2016-10-30 21:39:12] wurstgelee : it happened ......
[2016-10-30 21:39:17] wurstgelee : last time this night
[2016-10-30 21:39:22] wurstgelee : exactly that move
[2016-10-30 21:39:32] wurstgelee : also happened earlier
[2016-10-30 21:39:52] Rado : only 77 XBT open interest
[2016-10-30 21:40:01] rapidtrades : wanna push it to 10 and margin call bitmex and their MMs?
[2016-10-30 21:40:12] rapidtrades : we just need 60-70 btc
[2016-10-30 21:40:14] numero : this is the craziest casino I haven't needed a fake ID to enter
[2016-10-30 21:40:24] wurstgelee : you forget the hidden orders,,,
[2016-10-30 21:40:32] rapidtrades : ah maybe
[2016-10-30 21:40:34] Rado : rapidtrades: I can, but will you pay me back
[2016-10-30 21:40:51] wurstgelee : if there werent any hidden orders, this would be a 100% safe bet
[2016-10-30 21:40:58] wurstgelee : with deep enough pockets
[2016-10-30 21:41:13] Rado : wurstgelee: safe?
[2016-10-30 21:41:17] rapidtrades : would i need to pay u back? wouldn't ADL kick in and exit us all in profit?
[2016-10-30 21:41:19] Rado : not really
[2016-10-30 21:41:38] rapidtrades : plus their fund should be full from margining all the longs
[2016-10-30 21:41:47] wurstgelee : Rado: if u have enough btc to buy up to 2? (assumed no hidden orders)
[2016-10-30 21:41:51] wurstgelee : where would be the risk?
[2016-10-30 21:42:01] wurstgelee : up to 10 also
[2016-10-30 21:42:07] Rado : the risk is that you can't sell them after
[2016-10-30 21:42:15] wurstgelee : ADL does that for you
[2016-10-30 21:42:15] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 21:42:16] rapidtrades : u'll get ADLed
[2016-10-30 21:42:24] wurstgelee : 100% safe.... :p
[2016-10-30 21:42:31] rapidtrades : shorts get margined we get ADLed
[2016-10-30 21:42:32] Rado : only for the amount of shorts that get liquidated
[2016-10-30 21:42:41] Rado : that will not be for all your coins
[2016-10-30 21:42:46] NL007 : wurstgelee: how can you put hidden orders
[2016-10-30 21:42:49] wurstgelee : basically as a shorter, you rely on the mercy of whales playing gams atm
[2016-10-30 21:42:57] wurstgelee : *games
[2016-10-30 21:43:01] sleger : rapidtrades: its not 127btc/2 required
[2016-10-30 21:43:04] wurstgelee : unless your liquidation price is above 10
[2016-10-30 21:43:06] rapidtrades : open interest is 311 so if 150 are shorts, that's more then enough
[2016-10-30 21:43:14] wurstgelee : sleger: exactly
[2016-10-30 21:43:17] sleger : those 9 zec at 10 alone are 90btc/2
[2016-10-30 21:43:17] rapidtrades : u only need to buy 122
[2016-10-30 21:43:27] sleger : rapidtrades: 122zec
[2016-10-30 21:43:28] wurstgelee : sleger: you wouldnt have to buy up to 10 ;)
[2016-10-30 21:43:34] wurstgelee : 5+ should be enough
[2016-10-30 21:43:36] wurstgelee : easily
[2016-10-30 21:43:36] rapidtrades : sleger: right 122 zec
[2016-10-30 21:43:45] rapidtrades : sleger is right we need more
[2016-10-30 21:43:53] sleger : and some of those zec are at 8 or 9
[2016-10-30 21:43:56] rapidtrades : cos cost will go up above
[2016-10-30 21:44:10] sleger : but yes its not that many above 1 actually
[2016-10-30 21:44:13] rapidtrades : BUT 89 zec are until 1
[2016-10-30 21:44:20] rapidtrades : yes there's only 30 or so
[2016-10-30 21:44:26] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-30 21:44:30] rapidtrades : only 30 zec above 1, totally doable
[2016-10-30 21:44:49] sleger : and all the zec that you buy below 0.75, you can withdraw them and sell them at polo :p
[2016-10-30 21:44:56] wurstgelee : hahaha
[2016-10-30 21:45:26] sleger : and that's WHY futures prices stick to discounted spot : because there is delivery
[2016-10-30 21:45:50] rapidtrades : yep, u either gotten index it or do delivery
[2016-10-30 21:46:02] rapidtrades : otherwise it's just fiction...we're not trading ZEC here
[2016-10-30 21:46:05] numero : omg, you guys really do have extraordinary powers over all of cryptoland
[2016-10-30 21:46:17] rapidtrades : dude we're about to margin call ur ass
[2016-10-30 21:46:37] rapidtrades : cmon let's do it...it will be fun just to see all the news bitching
[2016-10-30 21:46:39] numero : easy come, easy go
[2016-10-30 21:46:47] rapidtrades : newbs
[2016-10-30 21:47:09] rapidtrades : it will also teach bitmex a lesson
[2016-10-30 21:48:42] sleger : Open Interest 311
[2016-10-30 21:49:07] rapidtrades : or do we wait for their 24h announcement and wreck shorts then?
[2016-10-30 21:49:08] sleger : how much was it when we went below 2 or 3 ?
[2016-10-30 21:49:12] Rado : rapidtrades: I will contribute 2 BTC
[2016-10-30 21:49:21] Rado : lets do it with you and sleger
[2016-10-30 21:50:18] sleger : only people shorting below 2 or so will likely get liquidated
[2016-10-30 21:50:28] rapidtrades : how come?
[2016-10-30 21:50:48] sleger : because the ones who sold at 8 probably have liq price > 10
[2016-10-30 21:51:03] rapidtrades : ah true but there's a wide gap 8>3
[2016-10-30 21:51:19] numero : STOP
[2016-10-30 21:51:20] sleger : yes but i dont know how the open interest changed from 10 to now
[2016-10-30 21:51:22] Rado : sleger: I shorted bellow 1 and my liq price is still over 10
[2016-10-30 21:51:27] Rado : because I did a small amount
[2016-10-30 21:51:37] numero : BitMEX_???? please do something
[2016-10-30 21:51:44] rapidtrades : numero: f*ck off
[2016-10-30 21:51:46] sleger : numero: how can we help you ?
[2016-10-30 21:52:02] Rado : numero: why can't we talk about shit
[2016-10-30 21:52:05] rapidtrades : it's marked to last, we're just following the rules
[2016-10-30 21:52:05] sleger : numero: you still have time to buy now to get out
[2016-10-30 21:52:20] rapidtrades : yeah until we work out the details
[2016-10-30 21:52:37] sleger : hurry i'm going to count to 10 @numero
[2016-10-30 21:52:59] Rado : it will take me 5 min to open an account and fund it
[2016-10-30 21:53:09] rapidtrades : how do i work out how much i can buy and keep my price at 0
[2016-10-30 21:53:11] rapidtrades : my liq
[2016-10-30 21:53:29] rapidtrades : theres no LIQ price in the calc
[2016-10-30 21:53:40] Rado : rapidtrades: how much BTC do you have?
[2016-10-30 21:53:43] sleger : you cant sell more btc than you have
[2016-10-30 21:53:45] Rado : I can calculate it for you
[2016-10-30 21:54:50] rapidtrades : only 4 available atm....bought too high it's a margin hog
[2016-10-30 21:55:04] Rado : I am sure that ZEC will be under 0.1 in 2 days by the way
[2016-10-30 21:55:26] rapidtrades : for some reason it's taking me more margin then 3 even tho that's where i bought it
[2016-10-30 21:55:34] rapidtrades : how's that possible
[2016-10-30 21:55:47] rapidtrades : im on cross
[2016-10-30 21:55:57] rapidtrades : oh nvm...cos of the loses
[2016-10-30 21:56:59] Rado : I hope you didn't buy a lot
[2016-10-30 21:57:08] rapidtrades : nah it's cool
[2016-10-30 21:57:13] Rado : great
[2016-10-30 21:57:35] kryptopojken : there are a shit ton of shorts below 1
[2016-10-30 21:57:36] kryptopojken : thats for sure
[2016-10-30 21:58:04] rapidtrades : kryptopojken: are u in? should be easy money
[2016-10-30 21:58:10] sleger : open interest not that high
[2016-10-30 21:58:25] mjones : are we longing zec on here
[2016-10-30 21:58:27] sleger : i can also remove 4 from the higher asks as they are mine
[2016-10-30 21:58:33] rapidtrades : mjones: yes are u in?
[2016-10-30 21:58:37] kryptopojken : rapidtrades: i lost almost all my account first day
[2016-10-30 21:58:50] mjones : i could long a dozen
[2016-10-30 21:58:52] rapidtrades : sleger: I have at 3 but willing to remove them if we go ahead
[2016-10-30 21:59:10] mjones : promise me you pump right after
[2016-10-30 21:59:25] wurstgelee : i have some hidden sells as well, i would remove them ;)
[2016-10-30 21:59:40] mjones : i'd just wait to get adl
[2016-10-30 21:59:47] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-30 21:59:50] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:00:33] rapidtrades : great so how much btc can u contribute
[2016-10-30 22:00:43] rapidtrades : we can proly do it collective with 100 easy
[2016-10-30 22:00:49] rapidtrades : collectively
[2016-10-30 22:01:44] mjones : anyone here know fontas? i heard he will help
[2016-10-30 22:01:53] sleger : main problem is who is willing to buy the ones above 5
[2016-10-30 22:02:22] rapidtrades : sleger: smone with deep pockets...will we ever get to 5 without adl?
[2016-10-30 22:02:35] wurstgelee : i wont participate in such fuckery tbh. i dont trust you guys enough to gamble ten of thousands of $ ;)
[2016-10-30 22:02:37] rapidtrades : i longed at 3 and all lights lid up by 4-5
[2016-10-30 22:02:41] wurstgelee : i removed all my sells tho
[2016-10-30 22:02:49] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: god bless u
[2016-10-30 22:02:50] wurstgelee : so at least i dont block ;)
[2016-10-30 22:03:12] wurstgelee : my entry is good enough
[2016-10-30 22:03:19] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:04:13] Rado : let me ask you a question guys
[2016-10-30 22:04:24] Rado : why the hell do you still have longs in ZEC?
[2016-10-30 22:04:32] sleger : i do not
[2016-10-30 22:04:35] wurstgelee : because its the right move
[2016-10-30 22:04:36] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 22:04:45] Rado : don't get it that with every ZEC coin mined price will go down
[2016-10-30 22:04:54] rapidtrades : i got stuck at 3 thinking mex will do the righ thing and mark to market
[2016-10-30 22:04:58] wurstgelee : in more than a decade?
[2016-10-30 22:05:05] wurstgelee : that doesnt really matter
[2016-10-30 22:05:08] rapidtrades : when i bought at 3 polo was at 30
[2016-10-30 22:05:10] sleger : logic is buy 10, push price, margin call, then exit via adl at much higher price
[2016-10-30 22:05:17] wurstgelee : sleger: yep
[2016-10-30 22:05:22] sleger : shorts know the risk
[2016-10-30 22:05:28] rapidtrades : agree
[2016-10-30 22:05:40] Rado : sleger: you will only exit part of the coins by ADL
[2016-10-30 22:05:42] Rado : not all of them
[2016-10-30 22:05:49] wurstgelee : and again: exactly that already happened...
[2016-10-30 22:05:55] wurstgelee : ~ 10h ago
[2016-10-30 22:05:57] rapidtrades : if u push prices high enough, u will exit all
[2016-10-30 22:06:02] sleger : yes but if we push to 10, around 80-90%
[2016-10-30 22:06:07] rapidtrades : pretty much
[2016-10-30 22:06:30] Rado : then even if you have only 2-3 ZEC left it will cost you 20-30 BTC
[2016-10-30 22:06:32] sleger : hopefully then some other dumbos put bids at 5 or higher and exit everything
[2016-10-30 22:06:38] Rado : so for me that doesn't make nay sense
[2016-10-30 22:06:51] Rado : any
[2016-10-30 22:07:11] sleger : Rado: no those 2-3 zecs wont be bought at 10 on average
[2016-10-30 22:07:14] rapidtrades : if the hard part is buying above 5....can't we just do 1>5
[2016-10-30 22:07:15] wurstgelee : if u exit 50% of your long you bought sub .5 at 5, you have 10x those
[2016-10-30 22:07:16] wurstgelee : big win
[2016-10-30 22:07:21] sleger : there is a huge gap of liq between 5 and 10
[2016-10-30 22:07:24] wurstgelee : ...
[2016-10-30 22:07:34] rapidtrades : yes...very small #zecs above 5
[2016-10-30 22:07:39] wurstgelee : u dont need to adl more than 50%
[2016-10-30 22:07:46] rapidtrades : only 16
[2016-10-30 22:07:48] wurstgelee : probably 25% are enough if u have a good entry
[2016-10-30 22:07:48] Rado : right
[2016-10-30 22:07:51] wurstgelee : probably even less
[2016-10-30 22:07:53] Rado : I should try it then
[2016-10-30 22:07:54] Rado : :-)
[2016-10-30 22:08:01] Rado : 40 BTC enough?
[2016-10-30 22:08:07] rapidtrades : wow
[2016-10-30 22:08:13] wurstgelee : depends on the amount of hidden orders
[2016-10-30 22:08:25] wurstgelee : thats the only risk
[2016-10-30 22:08:25] sleger : that is the main risk
[2016-10-30 22:08:32] rapidtrades : hidden orders can't be much
[2016-10-30 22:08:39] wurstgelee : you should have way deeper pockets to be sure
[2016-10-30 22:09:16] wurstgelee : i added 10 @ .25
[2016-10-30 22:09:21] rapidtrades : can't be more then 10-20%?
[2016-10-30 22:09:23] wurstgelee : youre welcome to fill everyone
[2016-10-30 22:09:33] rapidtrades : hidden orders i mean
[2016-10-30 22:09:52] Rado : well maybe the MM is reading this and adding 100 offer at 1
[2016-10-30 22:10:23] wurstgelee : Rado: thats why you should have deeper pockets ;)
[2016-10-30 22:10:30] wurstgelee : than 40 when trying that
[2016-10-30 22:10:44] Rado : don't have more in my BitMEX account
[2016-10-30 22:10:55] wurstgelee : thosre shorts.....@ .26
[2016-10-30 22:10:59] wurstgelee : all those
[2016-10-30 22:11:07] wurstgelee : large part mc below 1 i guess
[2016-10-30 22:11:19] wurstgelee : enough to cause adl ~ 3, 4 mx
[2016-10-30 22:11:21] wurstgelee : max
[2016-10-30 22:11:28] wurstgelee : if not earlier
[2016-10-30 22:11:30] Rado : yeah all the volume today is under 1
[2016-10-30 22:11:36] wurstgelee : thats the beauty of it :)
[2016-10-30 22:11:59] rapidtrades : can't we do it to 5 and avoid the expensive coins
[2016-10-30 22:12:03] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-10-30 22:12:10] wurstgelee : that what i just said
[2016-10-30 22:12:14] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:12:19] rapidtrades : only 18 zecs above 5
[2016-10-30 22:12:26] wurstgelee : u dont need 5 for adl
[2016-10-30 22:12:33] rapidtrades : we would margin 90% shorts and get 90% ADLed
[2016-10-30 22:12:40] wurstgelee : because of those shorts recently opened @ .25 to .30
[2016-10-30 22:12:44] wurstgelee : a lot of them
[2016-10-30 22:13:07] rapidtrades : yeah anything below 1 will be easy....could even cause a cascade
[2016-10-30 22:13:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.008003
[2016-10-30 22:13:39] Rado : I have some shorts at 0.32, but mine will not be liquidated
[2016-10-30 22:13:55] Rado : wow XMR back to 0.008
[2016-10-30 22:14:03] Rado : why didn't I buy at 0.006
[2016-10-30 22:15:27] wurstgelee : i missed the adrenaline injection to the alt market completely today :/
[2016-10-30 22:15:50] wurstgelee : i put a couple of btc into dgb @ 44/45 today
[2016-10-30 22:15:52] Rado : LSK funding rate -2.1069%
[2016-10-30 22:15:52] wurstgelee : thats all
[2016-10-30 22:16:03] Rado : ?
[2016-10-30 22:16:26] sleger : Rado: dont tell, just surf the funding wave
[2016-10-30 22:16:48] Rado : I will
[2016-10-30 22:16:57] rapidtrades : lot of times spread is bigger then funding so u can't rly surf it on alts
[2016-10-30 22:17:07] Rado : I hope it doesn't fall bellow 0.0002
[2016-10-30 22:17:29] Rado : 120k bid right now rapidtrades
[2016-10-30 22:17:41] rapidtrades : yeah seems liquid
[2016-10-30 22:17:46] miramm1115 : you guys are funny, I'm going to add some hidden asks above polo price
[2016-10-30 22:17:55] rapidtrades : good
[2016-10-30 22:18:15] rapidtrades : make sure liq is above 10 where daddy mex has ur back
[2016-10-30 22:18:35] miramm1115 : yeah, it's on cross
[2016-10-30 22:18:43] rapidtrades : idiot
[2016-10-30 22:19:31] miramm1115 : well, good luck ;-)
[2016-10-30 22:19:57] rapidtrades : we don't need luck, we have bigger pockets then u
[2016-10-30 22:20:52] rapidtrades : so what would happen...in theory if we would push it to 5 or 10 and then crash it down to polo price
[2016-10-30 22:20:53] HjP : miramm1115, what does "on cross" mean?
[2016-10-30 22:21:02] rapidtrades : first buy then sell into any bids
[2016-10-30 22:21:11] rapidtrades : so we make 2xmoney
[2016-10-30 22:21:13] sleger : HjP: like Jesus
[2016-10-30 22:21:19] wurstgelee : HjP: cross margin mode. all his balance gets used at margin
[2016-10-30 22:21:27] rapidtrades : LIKE JESUS DID
[2016-10-30 22:21:36] rapidtrades : he put everything on the line
[2016-10-30 22:21:40] rapidtrades : hence the saying
[2016-10-30 22:21:41] wurstgelee : if u have enough balance, it puts your margin call price above 10
[2016-10-30 22:21:47] wurstgelee : therefore god mode atm
[2016-10-30 22:22:18] numero : can still get ADLed though right?
[2016-10-30 22:22:20] Tetsuo : you´re welcome to buy into my hidden asks
[2016-10-30 22:22:28] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:22:30] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: don't be a dick
[2016-10-30 22:22:34] rapidtrades : it's free money
[2016-10-30 22:22:45] sleger : Tetsuo: why not joining ?
[2016-10-30 22:23:13] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: should have used the hidden chat , as usual, now everyone waits to make money from your attempted short squeeze
[2016-10-30 22:23:34] numero : well congrats guys, you cleared all us noobs out of the chat
[2016-10-30 22:23:39] rapidtrades : they f*cked us over with the cap and the shorts shat on us...not like they can phone the cftc
[2016-10-30 22:23:41] numero : mission accomplished
[2016-10-30 22:24:28] Rado : numero: are youscared?
[2016-10-30 22:24:37] rapidtrades : he looks scared
[2016-10-30 22:24:41] numero : Rado: no i've been long whole time ;)
[2016-10-30 22:24:45] rapidtrades : i mean he reads scared
[2016-10-30 22:26:02] wurstgelee : hm. i should mine a little zec
[2016-10-30 22:26:11] wurstgelee : want to know how profitabilty is atm
[2016-10-30 22:26:12] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:28:07] numero : all talk, no action
[2016-10-30 22:28:12] numero : I'm disappointed
[2016-10-30 22:28:32] rapidtrades : nothing i can do with 4 btc...already long at 3
[2016-10-30 22:28:44] rapidtrades : takes a ton of margin
[2016-10-30 22:29:09] rapidtrades : rado said 40 sleger hasn't said anything
[2016-10-30 22:29:24] mjones : zec going up
[2016-10-30 22:29:26] rapidtrades : we need 60 more minimum
[2016-10-30 22:30:10] numero : where's coinrun when you need him
[2016-10-30 22:30:20] rapidtrades : mjones: how much u can give for the effort
[2016-10-30 22:30:41] mjones : i can only pump bitmex zec
[2016-10-30 22:30:48] mjones : adl some shorts
[2016-10-30 22:31:02] mjones : just mark it to polo price.
[2016-10-30 22:31:25] rapidtrades : idk that would clear 70% of shorts...why not go the extra mile
[2016-10-30 22:32:24] rapidtrades : the bulk of the asks is below polo
[2016-10-30 22:33:29] wurstgelee : noooo
[2016-10-30 22:33:35] wurstgelee : more fills first please
[2016-10-30 22:33:36] wurstgelee : ffs
[2016-10-30 22:38:27] wurstgelee : daily volume on polo 740 zec
[2016-10-30 22:38:28] wurstgelee : roughly
[2016-10-30 22:38:34] rapidtrades : no its 850
[2016-10-30 22:38:44] wurstgelee : mebbe
[2016-10-30 22:38:50] rapidtrades : 24hr Volume: 1166.07612084 BTC / 824.92258811 ZEC
[2016-10-30 22:38:54] wurstgelee : oh
[2016-10-30 22:38:56] wurstgelee : k
[2016-10-30 22:39:05] wurstgelee : 1000 soon then
[2016-10-30 22:39:10] rapidtrades : yeah
[2016-10-30 22:39:17] wurstgelee : time to mark that shit
[2016-10-30 22:39:19] rapidtrades : excuse time
[2016-10-30 22:39:35] rapidtrades : 'guys deposits are not healthy enough yet'
[2016-10-30 22:39:43] wurstgelee : todays price qualifies as "stable"
[2016-10-30 22:39:49] wurstgelee : cant be the excuse
[2016-10-30 22:40:03] wurstgelee : lol oh yes
[2016-10-30 22:40:07] rapidtrades : if we wait for that 24h announcement then we will have time to buy without being tied to polo
[2016-10-30 22:40:08] wurstgelee : healthy deposits... ;)
[2016-10-30 22:40:16] rapidtrades : and in 24h we'll have the support at polo
[2016-10-30 22:40:16] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-30 22:40:19] wurstgelee : i like those 24 tbh
[2016-10-30 22:40:28] wurstgelee : no surprises while asleep
[2016-10-30 22:40:40] wurstgelee : .86 atm btw
[2016-10-30 22:40:42] rapidtrades : so at least we know we get smth for buying...around 70-80 cents
[2016-10-30 22:40:43] wurstgelee : bouncing
[2016-10-30 22:40:54] wurstgelee : .9
[2016-10-30 22:41:40] rapidtrades : definitely bouncing here, this could be vicious
[2016-10-30 22:41:44] mjones : zec yeah buddy
[2016-10-30 22:41:58] rapidtrades : with so many shorts below 1
[2016-10-30 22:42:29] wurstgelee : .92
[2016-10-30 22:42:31] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-30 22:42:41] rapidtrades : it will be 1 soon
[2016-10-30 22:42:58] mjmj83 : and then it goes back to 0.5
[2016-10-30 22:43:10] wurstgelee : "back"?
[2016-10-30 22:43:21] wurstgelee : i cant recall .5 tbh
[2016-10-30 22:43:21] rapidtrades : no we're overdue for a massive rally
[2016-10-30 22:43:24] mjones : not enough dumb money on here any more. everyone got rekt
[2016-10-30 22:43:36] rapidtrades : 100-300% from lows
[2016-10-30 22:43:38] NL007 : liquidation incoming if we go higher with zec
[2016-10-30 22:43:40] wurstgelee : friday was better tbh
[2016-10-30 22:43:46] wurstgelee : regarding dumb money
[2016-10-30 22:43:47] mjones : lost over 1000 users since zec pump
[2016-10-30 22:43:48] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:43:53] rapidtrades : so 1.5 or higher
[2016-10-30 22:43:59] wurstgelee : yeah, because its trading on polo now
[2016-10-30 22:44:05] wurstgelee : so polo users went back there
[2016-10-30 22:44:20] wurstgelee : .98
[2016-10-30 22:44:21] rapidtrades : polo users went there cos everyone got marginned here
[2016-10-30 22:44:22] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-30 22:44:35] mjones : mark to polo price. going above 1. i should have moved all my money to polo this morning and just bought zec. massive pump incoming
[2016-10-30 22:45:11] rapidtrades : yeah easy 2-3 on polo imo these short sqeezes can be vicious
[2016-10-30 22:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.327875
[2016-10-30 22:45:26] wurstgelee : polo cant squeeze shorts
[2016-10-30 22:45:30] wurstgelee : there are no shorts ;)
[2016-10-30 22:45:34] rapidtrades : sentiment was 99% ZEC bearish in this chat and no polo, that usually doesn't end well
[2016-10-30 22:45:53] mjones : massive margin calls though if price marked to spot. it would be wild
[2016-10-30 22:46:06] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-10-30 22:46:07] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-30 22:46:12] wurstgelee : looking forward to it
[2016-10-30 22:46:13] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-30 22:46:29] wurstgelee : qualifiying volume is reached in a few hours
[2016-10-30 22:46:37] wurstgelee : 1000 zec
[2016-10-30 22:46:54] mjmj83 : And then it takes another 24 hours
[2016-10-30 22:47:01] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-30 22:47:01] iefken : already reached that according to https://explorer.zcha.in/
[2016-10-30 22:47:06] rapidtrades : yeah that bar was set too high
[2016-10-30 22:47:12] wurstgelee : iefken: per exchange iirc
[2016-10-30 22:47:17] rapidtrades : cos as time goes on ppl lose interest
[2016-10-30 22:47:18] wurstgelee : mjmj83: so?
[2016-10-30 22:47:22] rapidtrades : and volume drops
[2016-10-30 22:47:30] mjmj83 : 24 hours after their announcement.. still can take 12 hours
[2016-10-30 22:47:46] rapidtrades : it really should've been marked to polo days ago but we all know the scam bitmex is running on ZEC
[2016-10-30 22:47:47] mjmj83 : You expect that ZEC will trade around 1 btc tomorrow?
[2016-10-30 22:47:58] mjmj83 : With all the miners dumping their ZEC's?
[2016-10-30 22:47:59] wurstgelee : in a week, so 5 days from now, total supply will be ~ 3k
[2016-10-30 22:48:06] rapidtrades : ZEC is trading at 0.9 now so yes @mjmj83
[2016-10-30 22:48:07] y1uy : mjmj83: what announcement?
[2016-10-30 22:48:08] rapidtrades : 1 is easy
[2016-10-30 22:48:10] wurstgelee : i doubt we wont have marking until then
[2016-10-30 22:48:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.350000
[2016-10-30 22:48:33] wurstgelee : there we go
[2016-10-30 22:48:35] mjmj83 : y1uy: the announcement of bitmex that it will do the marking
[2016-10-30 22:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.376250
[2016-10-30 22:48:41] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2016-10-30 22:48:48] rapidtrades : f*ck the shorts....wish i bought it myself
[2016-10-30 22:48:55] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: lol u didnt? ;)
[2016-10-30 22:48:57] y1uy : mjmj83: how wil lthat affect the price?
[2016-10-30 22:49:01] rapidtrades : to have that sweet feeling of revenge
[2016-10-30 22:49:03] y1uy : XMR breakout
[2016-10-30 22:49:05] y1uy : 4h
[2016-10-30 22:49:20] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: well no we didn't agree....we need sleger money
[2016-10-30 22:49:20] mjmj83 : y1uy: depends on what the price at polo is at that time
[2016-10-30 22:49:36] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: no reason not to get some orders filled .3 - .25 ;)
[2016-10-30 22:49:50] rapidtrades : i don't average losers
[2016-10-30 22:49:54] y1uy : mjmj83: the marking is the price on the source exchange right??
[2016-10-30 22:49:58] rapidtrades : plus i can't trust bitmex
[2016-10-30 22:51:54] mjmj83 : y1uy: correct
[2016-10-30 22:52:16] wurstgelee : the source exchange will be polo
[2016-10-30 22:52:21] mjmj83 : Right now it's still 6x more profitable to mine zcash compared to Ethereum.. if i'm correct
[2016-10-30 22:52:24] wurstgelee : as usual
[2016-10-30 22:52:26] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 694.13
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1233 @ 694.18
[2016-10-30 22:52:29] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 694.11
[2016-10-30 22:52:33] mjmj83 : so miners will dump it
[2016-10-30 22:52:52] wurstgelee : btc losing momentum
[2016-10-30 22:53:02] wurstgelee : altsareback etc
[2016-10-30 22:53:02] sleger : btc going down is also reducing available margin of zec shorters
[2016-10-30 22:53:09] wurstgelee : hehe :D
[2016-10-30 22:53:18] wurstgelee : that
[2016-10-30 22:53:22] rapidtrades : good, the perfect storm
[2016-10-30 22:53:34] rapidtrades : it was a 'sure bet' they said
[2016-10-30 22:53:43] wurstgelee : looking shitty for .3 shorts here
[2016-10-30 22:53:50] rapidtrades : they were wrong :)
[2016-10-30 22:53:53] y1uy : i think btc will consolidate at 680-690 for a few days
[2016-10-30 22:53:54] wurstgelee : but i have been preaching that all day.... :p
[2016-10-30 22:54:06] wurstgelee : y1uy: which would mean that alts pump
[2016-10-30 22:54:11] wurstgelee : they are already doing that
[2016-10-30 22:54:12] wurstgelee : right now ;)
[2016-10-30 22:54:30] wurstgelee : consolidation -> alt moon
[2016-10-30 22:54:42] y1uy : wurstgelee: exactly
[2016-10-30 22:55:07] wurstgelee : polo top volume list is pretty clear about that :p