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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-10-29 19:05:00] kryptopojken : hhhhh: def less risky than shorting it here
[2016-10-29 19:05:42] hhhhh : we should pump the price and then short the heck out of it here
[2016-10-29 19:05:55] hhhhh : volume is tiny
[2016-10-29 19:08:56] kryptopojken : do it if u have the cash :)
[2016-10-29 19:11:43] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 52 @ 714.46
[2016-10-29 19:11:43] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTZ16`: Buy 742 @ 754.05
[2016-10-29 19:12:47] javierstone : 7 dollar spread between index and coinbase
[2016-10-29 19:12:49] javierstone : crazy
[2016-10-29 19:22:46] shapeshifter : javierstone: should not they converge?
[2016-10-29 19:23:48] javierstone : china is alseep maybe?
[2016-10-29 19:24:05] javierstone : 50 points away from hitting 770
[2016-10-29 19:28:26] javierstone : 723 coinbase
[2016-10-29 19:32:41] John : Hello
[2016-10-29 19:32:50] John : I want ti buy ZEC
[2016-10-29 19:33:20] John : who can help me ?????????
[2016-10-29 19:34:01] kryptopojken : u have come to the right place
[2016-10-29 19:34:02] kryptopojken : for futures
[2016-10-29 19:34:14] kryptopojken : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ZECZ16
[2016-10-29 19:35:40] John : What i have to do to by zec ??????
[2016-10-29 19:36:11] kryptopojken : lol
[2016-10-29 19:36:39] John : kryptopojken: Do you have facebook or whatsapp to talk ???
[2016-10-29 19:36:52] kryptopojken : no
[2016-10-29 19:36:54] javierstone : amazing
[2016-10-29 19:37:05] John : kryptopojken: @javierstone Please tell me i want to buy
[2016-10-29 19:37:21] QuantFocus : John: deposit btc, buy zec
[2016-10-29 19:37:37] elfix : John: you want to buy real ZEC or Futures?
[2016-10-29 19:37:41] Gr33d : QuantFocus: can ewe brake dat dwn 4 me?
[2016-10-29 19:37:49] QuantFocus : Gr33d: lol
[2016-10-29 19:37:57] John : QuantFocus: How much is the zec here ??
[2016-10-29 19:38:01] Gr33d : Heh
[2016-10-29 19:38:07] Tetsuo : John: Go ALL in, it´s not going to stay cheap forever!
[2016-10-29 19:38:13] QuantFocus : John: you're buying a futures contract settled in xbt/btc here
[2016-10-29 19:39:02] QuantFocus : if you want to purchase zec tokens, you need to go to an exchange that has them listed (poloniex, kraken, bitfinex)
[2016-10-29 19:39:30] Tetsuo : QuantFocus: <---- what he wanted to say is BYBYBUYUBUYUBYUYUBYUBUYUYBUY, , cheap coins won´t last forever buy here, sell @ polo for profit
[2016-10-29 19:39:49] QuantFocus : ohya
[2016-10-29 19:39:53] QuantFocus : that too
[2016-10-29 19:40:08] QuantFocus : you should dump 50btc into it here and dump on polo
[2016-10-29 19:40:20] Tetsuo : easy profit
[2016-10-29 19:40:30] QuantFocus : totally
[2016-10-29 19:40:36] QuantFocus : like taking money from the elderly
[2016-10-29 19:40:53] elfix : does someone know if there is a protection against auto deleverage?
[2016-10-29 19:41:05] k0d3 : oooh cheap zcash
[2016-10-29 19:41:11] k0d3 : i'm going to buy all
[2016-10-29 19:41:12] QuantFocus : stay lower in the deleverage queue?
[2016-10-29 19:41:21] elfix : QuantFocus: yes
[2016-10-29 19:41:30] elfix : QuantFocus: how?
[2016-10-29 19:41:33] QuantFocus : that was more rhetorical
[2016-10-29 19:41:41] QuantFocus : but just don't use as much leverage
[2016-10-29 19:41:53] QuantFocus : and if you're the whale trading maybe trade less. monitor your position with the indicator
[2016-10-29 19:41:55] John : So, is posible buy zec now and then send to poloniex and sell the zec in 5 btc ????
[2016-10-29 19:41:59] elfix : QuantFocus: i have just leverage 1
[2016-10-29 19:42:10] Tetsuo : i hope my deposit of 500BTC soon arrives, i´m goin to buy all the cheap ZEC in here
[2016-10-29 19:42:21] QuantFocus : you guys are dicks
[2016-10-29 19:42:37] Tetsuo : firt come first served
[2016-10-29 19:42:41] QuantFocus : elfix: you should be fine
[2016-10-29 19:42:45] mjones : someone is propping ZEC price up so they can mine and dump for more BTC
[2016-10-29 19:42:54] Tetsuo : John: you should be fine
[2016-10-29 19:43:05] elfix : QuantFocus: i'm not fine, i don't understand
[2016-10-29 19:43:14] Tetsuo : elfix: everything is good,
[2016-10-29 19:43:18] Tetsuo : relax man
[2016-10-29 19:43:22] QuantFocus : elfix: the little bars next to your position...what do they look like?
[2016-10-29 19:43:50] elfix : QuantFocus: almost full
[2016-10-29 19:44:00] John : Tetsuo: this plattfform has zec to buy right now at 0.6 btc ????????????
[2016-10-29 19:44:11] Tetsuo : YESBYUYUBYUBYUYBUY
[2016-10-29 19:44:14] QuantFocus : elfix: are you big-time in the money?
[2016-10-29 19:44:19] Tetsuo : i´m buyin all i can
[2016-10-29 19:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTZ16`: Sell 8000 @ 751.59
[2016-10-29 19:44:35] elfix : QuantFocus: what is big-time?
[2016-10-29 19:44:35] aa : they are futures
[2016-10-29 19:44:44] aa : not zec
[2016-10-29 19:44:48] QuantFocus : elfix: do you have large unrealized profit or loss?
[2016-10-29 19:44:53] John : Tetsuo: so can i send the zec here to poloniex ?
[2016-10-29 19:44:54] Tetsuo : i thought zec is the future?
[2016-10-29 19:45:00] mjmj83 : John: No, you cannot send ZEC here.
[2016-10-29 19:45:05] Tetsuo : yes you can
[2016-10-29 19:45:06] Gr33d : Tetsuo: LooooL
[2016-10-29 19:45:15] elfix : QuantFocus: small just 20%
[2016-10-29 19:45:17] shapeshifter : its ZEC from the futures
[2016-10-29 19:45:24] shapeshifter : time machined here
[2016-10-29 19:45:36] John : Tetsuo: Can i send the zec to poloniex from here ?
[2016-10-29 19:45:44] shapeshifter : only by time machine
[2016-10-29 19:46:20] QuantFocus : elfix: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-29 19:46:24] John : mjmj83: Can i send the zec to poloniex from here ?
[2016-10-29 19:46:26] QuantFocus : probably going to explain it best
[2016-10-29 19:46:31] hhhhh : buy ZEC now its only 0.6
[2016-10-29 19:46:35] Tetsuo : https://youtu.be/aO6IhSL11Uk?t=24s
[2016-10-29 19:47:04] John : hhhhh: Can i send the zec to poloniexx ???
[2016-10-29 19:47:06] elfix : QuantFocus: i already read it
[2016-10-29 19:47:10] shapeshifter : Tetsuo: loool
[2016-10-29 19:47:15] Tetsuo : elfix: but did you buy those zecs?
[2016-10-29 19:47:26] Tetsuo : John: yes ffs, just do it
[2016-10-29 19:47:31] QuantFocus : elfix: ok, well you can either increase your collateral or reduce your position
[2016-10-29 19:47:34] Tetsuo : everyones doin it in here
[2016-10-29 19:47:35] hhhhh : John: yes
[2016-10-29 19:47:44] hhhhh : everyone is making a fortune
[2016-10-29 19:47:45] Tetsuo : but don´t tellanyone about this place
[2016-10-29 19:47:58] John : Tetsuo: What do you do when the zecs that uo have /
[2016-10-29 19:48:03] John : ?
[2016-10-29 19:48:03] elfix : Tetsuo: yes i take long position
[2016-10-29 19:48:04] shapeshifter : Tetsuo: sssssh that was a secret only for ppl here....
[2016-10-29 19:48:13] hhhhh : I have already made 10 BTC profit
[2016-10-29 19:48:27] Tetsuo : John: sent em to polo cash in for 1000% profit
[2016-10-29 19:48:41] hhhhh : John: Tetsuo is right
[2016-10-29 19:48:52] QuantFocus : sorry to ruin the fun, but that's kind of messed up...
[2016-10-29 19:49:04] Tetsuo : : - (
[2016-10-29 19:49:04] QuantFocus : John: they're messing with you
[2016-10-29 19:49:21] Gr33d : "trollbox" ...
[2016-10-29 19:49:26] QuantFocus : yea yea...still
[2016-10-29 19:49:37] shapeshifter : QuantFocus: really? i cant transfer my ZEC to Polo???
[2016-10-29 19:49:52] QuantFocus : besides, it's not like he is going to buy it back up to 10
[2016-10-29 19:50:02] numero : so this is what the troll box is for
[2016-10-29 19:50:07] QuantFocus : shapeshifter: i don't know if you're serious or trolling
[2016-10-29 19:50:18] shapeshifter : QuantFocus: ;)
[2016-10-29 19:50:40] hhhhh : people stop trolling and let everyone buy cheap ZEC here
[2016-10-29 19:50:45] hhhhh : dont be selfish
[2016-10-29 19:50:47] elfix : QuantFocus: @Tetsuo i really don't understand, i just take a long position with just leverage 1, i have only 20% unreallized profit and i'm almost green in the indicator for autodeleverage
[2016-10-29 19:50:47] QuantFocus : :knife:
[2016-10-29 19:51:02] QuantFocus : elfix: yea, that seems strange
[2016-10-29 19:51:12] QuantFocus : you should ask one of the bitmex guys about it. they're smarter than us
[2016-10-29 19:51:22] numero : anyone else think "John" is also a troll
[2016-10-29 19:51:37] elfix : QuantFocus: @Tetsuo and i have already be deleverage 2 times yesterday, that's why i'm boring about that
[2016-10-29 19:52:07] shapeshifter : elfix: on the way up or down?
[2016-10-29 19:52:40] elfix : shapeshifter: on the way up, i mean long
[2016-10-29 19:52:43] hhhhh : BUT for real. ZEC is goign back up on poloniex
[2016-10-29 19:53:00] elfix : shapeshifter: up is long and down is short? correct?
[2016-10-29 19:53:09] shapeshifter : elfix: that happened to pretty much everyone who was long
[2016-10-29 19:53:27] elfix : shapeshifter: really but why?
[2016-10-29 19:53:48] shapeshifter : because they need to close long to liquidate shirts
[2016-10-29 19:53:55] shapeshifter : its a zero-sum game
[2016-10-29 19:54:00] shapeshifter : *shorts
[2016-10-29 19:54:07] Tetsuo : no shirt no service
[2016-10-29 19:54:22] shapeshifter : mors tua vita mea as the latins said
[2016-10-29 19:54:30] shapeshifter : Tetsuo: lol
[2016-10-29 19:54:34] elfix : shapeshifter: i minimize too much my winning because of the autodeleverage
[2016-10-29 19:54:56] shapeshifter : ye, youre not alone, it pissed me off too
[2016-10-29 19:55:51] elfix : shapeshifter: i could have make 4 times better without this systeme even more
[2016-10-29 19:57:28] Tetsuo : XMR is such a strong buy right now
[2016-10-29 19:57:45] John : Tetsuo: Is good buy xmr now ?
[2016-10-29 19:57:57] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-10-29 19:58:03] elfix : shapeshifter: there is no solution to avoid this ? even if we increase available balance or other things?
[2016-10-29 19:58:30] Tetsuo : elfix: ask rapid, he´s the zec contract expert
[2016-10-29 19:58:42] shapeshifter : nope, it only depends on leverage and %PNL, so only way is to keep both of them low
[2016-10-29 19:59:08] John : Tetsuo: Did you send zec to poloniex from here ?
[2016-10-29 19:59:08] elfix : shapeshifter: but i have no leverage, that's why i don't understand
[2016-10-29 19:59:11] shapeshifter : so if you leveraged at 1, you always will be ADL once you made too much money
[2016-10-29 19:59:18] elfix : Tetsuo: who is rapid?
[2016-10-29 19:59:28] shapeshifter : and shirts need to be closed :)
[2016-10-29 19:59:48] Tetsuo : elfix: username rapidtrades, one of the altcoin mods in here
[2016-10-29 20:00:38] elfix : shapeshifter: so with leverage should i take?
[2016-10-29 20:00:40] javierstone : results for iceland start coming in in an hour
[2016-10-29 20:00:52] Tetsuo : whole world is waitin
[2016-10-29 20:01:01] elfix : shapeshifter: 1 is better than 2, correct?
[2016-10-29 20:01:11] Tetsuo : 2 is more than 1
[2016-10-29 20:01:12] John : Tetsuo: do you sending zec to poloniex ?
[2016-10-29 20:01:18] shapeshifter : elfix: leverage 1, but then this does not stop the process. You can check formulas in the help
[2016-10-29 20:01:54] John : Tetsuo: ????
[2016-10-29 20:02:36] Tetsuo : John: please PM me about this topic, i don´t like to share it in here
[2016-10-29 20:02:54] elfix : shapeshifter: so with my leverage 1 and my small % profit, it means almost nobody take leverage, if i'm always in first position?
[2016-10-29 20:03:09] shapeshifter : are all the boxes lit?
[2016-10-29 20:03:36] kradiav : ZEC is really cheap, nicee
[2016-10-29 20:03:38] elfix : shapeshifter: like the picture in the help section
[2016-10-29 20:03:42] kradiav : gonna get some ZEC for me
[2016-10-29 20:04:21] hhhhh : lets do short squeeze on ZEC volume is super low
[2016-10-29 20:04:44] elfix : shapeshifter: so 3 green, 1 less green and 1 yellow
[2016-10-29 20:05:07] shapeshifter : mmm it seems so
[2016-10-29 20:05:09] fridd : zec is gonna hit the moon soon
[2016-10-29 20:05:28] fridd : amazing time to buy
[2016-10-29 20:05:36] fridd : only 0.57
[2016-10-29 20:05:50] fridd : people are dumping btc for zec
[2016-10-29 20:05:51] elfix : shapeshifter: they don't take into account previous profit?
[2016-10-29 20:06:14] hhhhh : fridd: we could buy up ZEC here and all the short sellers would lose all their positions
[2016-10-29 20:06:19] numero : tulips! get your tulips here!
[2016-10-29 20:06:21] shapeshifter : i would assume not, but try to ask the bitmex guys
[2016-10-29 20:07:06] fridd : hhhhh: that's gonna happen soon enough
[2016-10-29 20:07:15] fridd : not many people know about bitmex yet
[2016-10-29 20:07:27] Tetsuo : plz don´t spread the message
[2016-10-29 20:07:27] fridd : less than 1K in this chat
[2016-10-29 20:07:36] elfix : shapeshifter: ok thanks for the help, maybe it's just normal
[2016-10-29 20:07:53] shapeshifter : no pb
[2016-10-29 20:07:55] hhhhh : fridd: we could squeeze the short sellers now and drive up the price and short it again
[2016-10-29 20:08:22] hhhhh : who has some btc for ZEC squeeze?
[2016-10-29 20:08:22] Tetsuo : if you and your buddy can get 2-3 BTCs together buy askin all of your friends why not?
[2016-10-29 20:08:48] elfix : shapeshifter: but as i was delevage 2 times yesterday, i think maybe i make something wrong.
[2016-10-29 20:09:17] shapeshifter : check with the Bitmex guys for peace of mind
[2016-10-29 20:09:32] elfix : shapeshifter: where is he?
[2016-10-29 20:09:46] shapeshifter : send them an email
[2016-10-29 20:10:11] numero : 90% off tulips at BitMex
[2016-10-29 20:10:20] elfix : shapeshifter: ok you mean to the support?
[2016-10-29 20:10:31] shapeshifter : yes
[2016-10-29 20:11:34] elfix : shapeshifter: ok maybe i will try if it happens again too much.
[2016-10-29 20:11:48] John : i have 0.0010 btc with this money can i buy zec ?
[2016-10-29 20:12:25] elfix : John: why do you always say that? it's futures here
[2016-10-29 20:12:32] numero : John: you can only buy full tulips here
[2016-10-29 20:12:43] numero : John: go to Polo for partial tulips
[2016-10-29 20:13:12] John : elfix: i dont know how to use this plattform
[2016-10-29 20:13:51] elfix : John: there is no ZEC here. It's just futures. Do you know futures?
[2016-10-29 20:14:06] hhhhh : elfix: he is probably 14 years old or some shit
[2016-10-29 20:14:16] John : elfix: what is that ?
[2016-10-29 20:15:45] kryptopojken : just because it's a troll box doesn't mean u have to feed them
[2016-10-29 20:16:32] elfix : John: it's a contract where you forecast the ZEC price on the 31 december
[2016-10-29 20:16:51] elfix : John: not real ZEC
[2016-10-29 20:17:02] John : elfix: ok
[2016-10-29 20:23:31] DOGG : ZEC。。。
[2016-10-29 20:24:31] DOGG : anyone here
[2016-10-29 20:24:38] Gr33d : No.
[2016-10-29 20:24:43] DOGG : OH
[2016-10-29 20:26:24] elfix : DOGG: yes
[2016-10-29 20:27:09] DOGG : how to play i do not know
[2016-10-29 20:27:29] elfix : DOGG: just click buy or sell
[2016-10-29 20:27:59] DOGG : but i have no xbt
[2016-10-29 20:28:10] kryptopojken : sell side so thin on zec
[2016-10-29 20:28:26] elfix : DOGG: click deposit
[2016-10-29 20:28:27] kryptopojken : buy it you fools!
[2016-10-29 20:30:08] Tetsuo : kryptopojken: no need to be harsh, calm down
[2016-10-29 20:30:23] kryptopojken : sorry i meant it in a gandalf type of way
[2016-10-29 20:30:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13666 @ 715.75
[2016-10-29 20:30:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 715.62
[2016-10-29 20:30:31] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-10-29 20:30:36] DOGG : all right i 'll buy 1000000 xbt
[2016-10-29 20:30:39] Tetsuo : REKT: +1000
[2016-10-29 20:31:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 100000 @ 0.00001031
[2016-10-29 20:31:44] numero : whoa, who's buying all the tulips?
[2016-10-29 20:31:59] mjones : the guys who hold all the tulips
[2016-10-29 20:32:04] kryptopojken : better question is, who the hell is shorting down here
[2016-10-29 20:32:39] Daniel Craig : What are your positions, guys?
[2016-10-29 20:32:40] numero : ZEC's already had it's bounce for this 6 hour period
[2016-10-29 20:33:15] DOGG : Buy XBTUSD,the more the better
[2016-10-29 20:33:21] hhhhh : Daniel Craig: long at the moment i see bounce back to 1BTC/ZEC
[2016-10-29 20:33:22] mjones : no fun trading ZEC until it follows poloniex price.
[2016-10-29 20:34:06] Daniel Craig : hhhhh: what leverage do you recommend here?
[2016-10-29 20:34:20] mjones : but even still then i think everyone knows it'll be worth less by december 30. assuming BTC pumps no one is gonna buy zec
[2016-10-29 20:34:28] hhhhh : Daniel Craig: i use around 1.5
[2016-10-29 20:35:28] Daniel Craig : hhhhh: why not 100x? )
[2016-10-29 20:35:45] hhhhh : Daniel Craig: im talking about ZEC futures
[2016-10-29 20:36:07] DOGG : U guys means Zcash can be us
[2016-10-29 20:36:08] Gr33d : XBT Mooon
[2016-10-29 20:36:38] hhhhh : ZEC16 MOON
[2016-10-29 20:37:41] DOGG : XBT can go to 1000USD
[2016-10-29 20:38:09] imabeast : anyone feel a short squeeze for zec?
[2016-10-29 20:38:17] Gr33d : Lol ZEC is a gimmick guys
[2016-10-29 20:38:19] mjones : 8300 BTC to break 5000 CNY on okcoin
[2016-10-29 20:39:43] DOGG : ha
[2016-10-29 20:41:44] mjones : bitmex needs to redo the calculator. needs to be better
[2016-10-29 20:42:18] imabeast : think zec gonna move up
[2016-10-29 20:42:22] DOGG : mjones: a good idea
[2016-10-29 20:43:09] DOGG : website is too simple
[2016-10-29 20:43:19] Tetsuo : mjones: what´s wrong with the current one, u need one that calculates better profits
[2016-10-29 20:43:40] Tetsuo : DOGG: thx for sharing your ideas, we´re glad that you´re here
[2016-10-29 20:44:05] DOGG : Tetsuo: U do
[2016-10-29 20:44:34] mjones : on xbtz16 it it calculating my margin as 100x. how do i change that
[2016-10-29 20:45:09] numero : Tetsuo: how many accounts do you have anyway :p?
[2016-10-29 20:45:32] Tetsuo : only this one and rapidtrades
[2016-10-29 20:45:33] RocketScience : i have grown my first gray hair from leveraged stress
[2016-10-29 20:45:48] Amanni : hi guys am new on the platform can some be kind enough to brief on how dis work
[2016-10-29 20:45:55] mjones : that's probably where my few came from
[2016-10-29 20:46:08] mjones : 24/7 market is like ugh
[2016-10-29 20:46:10] Amanni : i want to strickly trade on BTC only
[2016-10-29 20:46:15] RocketScience : Amanni: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-10-29 20:46:26] Tetsuo : Amanni: no thanks, we´re not interested, ask the neighbours
[2016-10-29 20:46:29] RocketScience : read and understand the basics
[2016-10-29 20:46:34] DOGG : Amanni: YES , I think so
[2016-10-29 20:46:38] RocketScience : or you will lose everything in 2 hours
[2016-10-29 20:47:00] RocketScience : i have lost everything
[2016-10-29 20:47:25] Tetsuo : all those newbs rushin in buyin BTC@ max leverage makes me feel good closin my longs
[2016-10-29 20:47:26] RocketScience : then bitmex taught me about derivatives and i have like 3000% from btc rally xD
[2016-10-29 20:47:50] Amanni : risk is worst when not taking rocket
[2016-10-29 20:48:02] Gr33d : Tetsuo: all teh n00bs closing der longs b4 btc 2000USD makes me feel goood
[2016-10-29 20:49:23] RocketScience : i overleveraged at first.. try not to be greedy
[2016-10-29 20:49:44] Tetsuo : 90x is fair , 100x might be too much!
[2016-10-29 20:50:08] RocketScience : and beware of funding on swaps...it's a killer
[2016-10-29 20:50:15] RocketScience : on 100x leverage
[2016-10-29 20:51:15] DOGG : 100X MUST BE !
[2016-10-29 20:52:46] Gr33d : RocketScience: Agr33d.0.5 btc to 3.5 in a week, then liquid. Me starting xD
[2016-10-29 20:53:29] RocketScience : i got rekt longing eth at 33x before devcon...that hacker red wick got me...i was so angry
[2016-10-29 20:53:44] RocketScience : when i saw it, the price was already way higher
[2016-10-29 20:54:49] RocketScience : trollbox came alive in last 3 days :D
[2016-10-29 20:55:44] Gr33d : Yesss
[2016-10-29 20:55:57] Bacon futures trader : Does a margin call cost more then using a stop market or stop limit?
[2016-10-29 20:56:50] RocketScience : liquidation = you got nothing
[2016-10-29 20:58:43] DOGG : i am A luck dog
[2016-10-29 20:58:44] Gr33d : So, in a way, yes.
[2016-10-29 20:58:47] Amanni : thanks rocket for ur info
[2016-10-29 21:02:03] DOGG : animal = =
[2016-10-29 21:02:22] mjones : anyone thinking xmr goes back to like 0.009
[2016-10-29 21:04:10] aili : mjones: if btc fals back, then yes
[2016-10-29 21:04:17] aili : but in the coming week
[2016-10-29 21:04:22] aili : most likely not
[2016-10-29 21:04:23] DOGG : @mjones xmr ..rubbish
[2016-10-29 21:05:29] DOGG : xbt today i think 730usd
[2016-10-29 21:07:56] Bacon futures trader : China trading at like 730
[2016-10-29 21:08:07] RocketScience : Amanni: Btc index price is made of 50% bitstamp and 50% Okcoin USD
[2016-10-29 21:08:16] CaptainDean : yeah huobi is at 728
[2016-10-29 21:08:17] RocketScience : 0kcoin
[2016-10-29 21:09:23] DOGG : okcoin
[2016-10-29 21:09:40] DOGG : Ok coin
[2016-10-29 21:11:39] RocketScience : alts are bleeding...where does the bitcoin river go?
[2016-10-29 21:12:18] DOGG : who knows?
[2016-10-29 21:12:34] DOGG : who care?
[2016-10-29 21:12:37] mjones : all we know is btc going up a lot and no one is going to buy alts again till btc is done
[2016-10-29 21:13:05] rapidtrades : 'a lot' meaning 5%
[2016-10-29 21:13:48] DOGG : Halloween is coming
[2016-10-29 21:13:51] rapidtrades : f*cking scammers
[2016-10-29 21:13:54] Gr33d : ew
[2016-10-29 21:14:18] rapidtrades : zec will never get to 1000 volume unless its price drops to 1-2
[2016-10-29 21:14:32] RocketScience : rapidtrades: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/world/asia/president-duterte-says-god-told-him-to-swear-off-the-curse-words.html?_r=0
[2016-10-29 21:14:36] mjones : btc up 19% in 3 weeks. i bet it breaks 5185 CNY next week and goes up like 20% in 1 week
[2016-10-29 21:14:39] RocketScience : that reminded me of you haha
[2016-10-29 21:15:01] mjones : then trump becomes president and btc breaks ATH
[2016-10-29 21:15:10] rapidtrades : i should've know bitmex was full of shit when they made up that story about 'users came to rely on the 10 cap'
[2016-10-29 21:15:14] rapidtrades : red flag right there
[2016-10-29 21:15:55] rapidtrades : give ppl enough time and they will show their true colors
[2016-10-29 21:16:08] rapidtrades : it took <1 year for bitmex
[2016-10-29 21:16:08] mjones : okcoin futures caps the price but it moves based on current price. and shorts can always close even if it market closing goes above the limit
[2016-10-29 21:18:03] rapidtrades : I came to rely on futures being priced to actual market
[2016-10-29 21:18:10] rapidtrades : guess my relaying doesn't matter
[2016-10-29 21:18:22] RocketScience : we all know zec won't be over 10 on dec 30
[2016-10-29 21:18:29] rapidtrades : u don't know shit
[2016-10-29 21:18:33] michiel_kaas : Does a zcash still costs 5k?
[2016-10-29 21:18:45] Gr33d : michiel_kaas: 5kcents maybe
[2016-10-29 21:18:57] numero : would there even be enough btc to have zec at 10 on dec 30?
[2016-10-29 21:18:59] rapidtrades : it's 3.2k
[2016-10-29 21:19:04] michiel_kaas : People said it was 5k dollars a few hours ago
[2016-10-29 21:19:06] michiel_kaas : Tjeez
[2016-10-29 21:19:15] michiel_kaas : why are people so hyped about the coin?
[2016-10-29 21:19:55] numero : I think it's long term potential is extraordinary
[2016-10-29 21:19:59] rapidtrades : f*cking scam
[2016-10-29 21:20:11] NL007 : michiel_kaas: no 3k now
[2016-10-29 21:20:22] NL007 : michiel_kaas: was
[2016-10-29 21:20:32] michiel_kaas : Nederlands?
[2016-10-29 21:20:55] RocketScience : Is your name James?
[2016-10-29 21:21:00] RocketScience : James Bond?
[2016-10-29 21:21:13] michiel_kaas : No harrold
[2016-10-29 21:21:15] michiel_kaas : xD
[2016-10-29 21:21:20] NL007 : ja maar je mag geen NL schrijven hier
[2016-10-29 21:21:22] orly : numero: what long term potential?
[2016-10-29 21:21:31] michiel_kaas : How old are you guys btw?
[2016-10-29 21:21:41] RocketScience : 23
[2016-10-29 21:21:47] Gr33d : 18
[2016-10-29 21:21:49] michiel_kaas : I'm 15 xD
[2016-10-29 21:21:56] michiel_kaas : Young investor
[2016-10-29 21:21:58] Gr33d : dank
[2016-10-29 21:22:05] michiel_kaas : Is this like your job?
[2016-10-29 21:22:09] Gr33d : "Investor" hmm
[2016-10-29 21:22:16] RocketScience : I will make it my job
[2016-10-29 21:22:17] michiel_kaas : trader
[2016-10-29 21:22:24] RocketScience : day trader yeah
[2016-10-29 21:22:40] RocketScience : dream job
[2016-10-29 21:22:41] michiel_kaas : Is it a good choice to buy a bit of zcash right now?
[2016-10-29 21:22:43] Gr33d : All I do
[2016-10-29 21:22:48] RocketScience : not yet
[2016-10-29 21:22:58] michiel_kaas : A litttle bit
[2016-10-29 21:22:59] RocketScience : wait for supply, it's scarce
[2016-10-29 21:23:03] rapidtrades : 24hr Volume: 3723.53631191 BT
[2016-10-29 21:23:17] michiel_kaas : Yeah I know wtf, is there any suplly left xD
[2016-10-29 21:23:22] rapidtrades : f*cking bullshit they're acting like it's an illiquid market
[2016-10-29 21:23:24] michiel_kaas : I think everything is gone
[2016-10-29 21:23:33] RocketScience : Yeah
[2016-10-29 21:23:33] rapidtrades : while their shitty Quiine doesn't even come close
[2016-10-29 21:23:46] rapidtrades : 24hr Volume: 3723.53631191 BT for ZEC on polo
[2016-10-29 21:23:48] michiel_kaas : Uuhm lets look how much coins there are mined per hour
[2016-10-29 21:23:48] numero : orly: over the next few years
[2016-10-29 21:24:04] RocketScience : When slow mining stops, there will be enough supply
[2016-10-29 21:24:05] michiel_kaas : How big is a zcash block?
[2016-10-29 21:24:08] michiel_kaas : 50 zcash?
[2016-10-29 21:24:21] RocketScience : it's super small, smaller than that
[2016-10-29 21:24:26] michiel_kaas : hmm
[2016-10-29 21:24:38] michiel_kaas : Thats why it is so extremely expensive
[2016-10-29 21:24:40] messiaen8844 : Where is Index Price coming for ZCASH right now?
[2016-10-29 21:24:42] messiaen8844 : wasn't it POLO?
[2016-10-29 21:24:53] michiel_kaas : messiaen8844: Polienex
[2016-10-29 21:24:55] khessabi2 : I have a question guys....I have 4 btc in bitmex, now I short 500 contract of eth on 0.0141 which worth about 7 btc....but it use 25x leverage and set my liquidation on 0.0144....why?!!!..plz help me
[2016-10-29 21:24:56] numero : to institute deep NIRP the central banks will have to try their best to close all the exits (cash, PMs, cryptos) but I don't see how they can close Zcash
[2016-10-29 21:25:03] michiel_kaas : Poloniex*
[2016-10-29 21:25:08] arougkalos : i asked for a withdraw arround 30 minutes before but there is nothing in the way..are the admins processing the withdrawals manually?(i confirmed the mail)
[2016-10-29 21:25:52] RocketScience : khessabi2: Click on the margin number and you can add margin
[2016-10-29 21:25:59] messiaen8844 : trading view not showing zecbtc properly
[2016-10-29 21:26:12] michiel_kaas : Btw i'm crying a little bit. I wanted to buy like 0.6 hash in cloud mining but I waited to long. I could make huge money
[2016-10-29 21:26:18] RocketScience : khessabi2: to make liq- price higher...or click cross margin and it will use your available balance
[2016-10-29 21:26:23] michiel_kaas : Like my whole investment in one day
[2016-10-29 21:26:49] RocketScience : arougkalos: every day at 1 pm +0 time
[2016-10-29 21:27:05] arougkalos : RocketScience: thnx
[2016-10-29 21:27:22] RocketScience : yes, it's manual from cold wallet
[2016-10-29 21:27:48] khessabi2 : RocketScience: when it use 25x leverage...it use my 0.3 btc...and if it hit 144 my 0.3 btc is going to be liquidatet or my 4 btc?
[2016-10-29 21:27:49] arougkalos : pffff.....thats alot....
[2016-10-29 21:27:51] Gr33d : michiel_kaas: It's okay man we all make mistakes ...
[2016-10-29 21:28:08] RocketScience : your 0.3 btc (margin)
[2016-10-29 21:28:14] Gr33d : michiel_kaas: ...And clearly your parents mistake was having a failure for a son.
[2016-10-29 21:28:21] RocketScience : available balance is separated as long as you don't use cross margin
[2016-10-29 21:28:24] michiel_kaas : Funny
[2016-10-29 21:28:28] Gr33d : lel
[2016-10-29 21:28:43] orly : numero: but what unique value does it add to the altcoin mix?
[2016-10-29 21:29:02] orly : numero: like, what makes it more useful than say xmr
[2016-10-29 21:29:07] khessabi2 : RocketScience: I have 4btc and want to short 500eth (7) which it has to use about 2c leverage.....so I shuld adjust the leverage manualy?
[2016-10-29 21:29:17] Gr33d : orly: Hype.
[2016-10-29 21:29:21] numero : orly: hype :p
[2016-10-29 21:29:25] numero : lol
[2016-10-29 21:29:30] rapidtrades : polo volume for ZEC over 3k...volume here 900
[2016-10-29 21:29:36] imabeast : uh oh
[2016-10-29 21:29:37] Gr33d : numero: xD
[2016-10-29 21:29:38] imabeast : down goes btc
[2016-10-29 21:29:39] rapidtrades : clearly a good choice to mark to last not polo
[2016-10-29 21:29:39] khessabi2 : RocketScience: thx for helping....know nothing about future trading <3
[2016-10-29 21:29:44] rapidtrades : this is outright scam
[2016-10-29 21:29:48] mjones : haha btc down. damn i should have left my xmr long
[2016-10-29 21:30:15] rapidtrades : they pumped ZEC in their newsletter now they're dumping with BTC
[2016-10-29 21:30:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5500 @ 713.40
[2016-10-29 21:30:23] rapidtrades : they don't even own any ZEC
[2016-10-29 21:30:49] RocketScience : khessabi2: yes, or just use 15x or less
[2016-10-29 21:31:01] michiel_kaas : Did you guys already bought zcash
[2016-10-29 21:31:06] RocketScience : nope
[2016-10-29 21:31:15] RocketScience : it will get cheaper
[2016-10-29 21:31:43] RocketScience : imagine people fighting for first iphone 9...and in 1 month there will be 100k iphones 9
[2016-10-29 21:32:01] mjones : yeah zec is going down week after week
[2016-10-29 21:32:14] mjones : it's being propped up by miners so they can dump high
[2016-10-29 21:32:35] michiel_kaas : Ofc
[2016-10-29 21:32:53] michiel_kaas : It is just because of the extremely small amount of coins and huge popularity
[2016-10-29 21:33:03] michiel_kaas : There are 42 coins
[2016-10-29 21:33:20] michiel_kaas : If I was bill gates I would buy all the coins and troll everyone
[2016-10-29 21:33:29] michiel_kaas : So nobody could use zcash
[2016-10-29 21:33:38] michiel_kaas : :)
[2016-10-29 21:33:40] RocketScience : Trading should be enabled after 1 month passess... this is just pump and dump
[2016-10-29 21:33:56] michiel_kaas : RocketScience: You are right
[2016-10-29 21:34:04] mjones : 1809 BTC market cap for ZEC right now.
[2016-10-29 21:34:18] michiel_kaas : What?
[2016-10-29 21:34:35] orly : RocketScience: noone should have authority over when trading "should be enabled"
[2016-10-29 21:34:44] orly : if people want to play pump and dump, let them
[2016-10-29 21:34:50] michiel_kaas : It would be better
[2016-10-29 21:34:52] RocketScience : yeah, it's funny
[2016-10-29 21:34:58] mjones : up to the trader if they want to gamble on a new coin with low supply
[2016-10-29 21:35:10] NL007 : there are now 433 ZEC
[2016-10-29 21:35:13] michiel_kaas : But ofc it will be lowerd
[2016-10-29 21:35:31] RocketScience : the guy who bought at 500 and sold 3300 deserves that win for his guts of steel
[2016-10-29 21:35:45] RocketScience : the guy at 3300...
[2016-10-29 21:35:55] RocketScience : is gonna win at life anyway
[2016-10-29 21:35:55] michiel_kaas : Yeah xD
[2016-10-29 21:36:12] michiel_kaas : But who got that change to buy so fast
[2016-10-29 21:36:13] mjones : it was at 10 before going up to 3300. just think of that profit in a short amount of time
[2016-10-29 21:36:20] michiel_kaas : How fast was the first coin selled?
[2016-10-29 21:36:42] Rado : The guy that bought at 3300 is the dumb winner of the year
[2016-10-29 21:36:50] mjones : zec at 4
[2016-10-29 21:36:58] RocketScience : the greatest fool in the crypto universe
[2016-10-29 21:37:00] michiel_kaas : Btw where are all the zcash stats. Like total hash power total coins
[2016-10-29 21:37:02] michiel_kaas : etc
[2016-10-29 21:37:09] orly : RocketScience: so far.
[2016-10-29 21:37:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.445263
[2016-10-29 21:37:14] NL007 : depends maybe he already profit
[2016-10-29 21:37:20] RocketScience : He will try to "average down" xD
[2016-10-29 21:37:21] mjones : here michiel_kaas https://explorer.zcha.in
[2016-10-29 21:37:32] michiel_kaas : Thanks
[2016-10-29 21:37:49] RocketScience : BTC scared me..volatility is epic
[2016-10-29 21:37:51] mjones : i dont know why zec would pump but maybe people have 50btc to waste
[2016-10-29 21:38:12] DOGG : BTC higher is 8000
[2016-10-29 21:39:05] numero : DOGG: you're wrong dogg, Tetsuo was right ;)
[2016-10-29 21:39:07] michiel_kaas : Owh lol btw, The bitcoin went threw the 600 euro
[2016-10-29 21:39:27] michiel_kaas : I expected that and said to a friend that it will happen
[2016-10-29 21:40:09] mjones : hashrate went up a ton since yesterday
[2016-10-29 21:40:31] zcasher7777 : 0.43 ok???
[2016-10-29 21:40:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 3 @ 0.432986
[2016-10-29 21:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.007043
[2016-10-29 21:42:13] rapidtrades : shame on u bitmex
[2016-10-29 21:42:20] Tetsuo : hello XMR, alive and kickin
[2016-10-29 21:42:21] michiel_kaas : How much bitcoins do you guys have?
[2016-10-29 21:42:40] rapidtrades : this is what happens when u put Goldman Sacks people in charge where there's no regulation
[2016-10-29 21:42:40] numero : i wonder what percentage of ZECZ16 holders got REKT on ZECZ16
[2016-10-29 21:42:52] Gr33d : numero: 100%?
[2016-10-29 21:43:01] numero : Gr33d: lol
[2016-10-29 21:43:08] rapidtrades : ur all gonna be regulated to death in 5y and u deserved
[2016-10-29 21:43:12] Gr33d : I rekt that most recent one btw :)
[2016-10-29 21:43:14] rapidtrades : 90% bad actors in this space
[2016-10-29 21:43:19] Gr33d : heh
[2016-10-29 21:43:33] donkey : 5y in crypto is like 100y real
[2016-10-29 21:43:35] Gr33d : michiel_kaas: like 15
[2016-10-29 21:43:45] numero : ah, risk capital
[2016-10-29 21:45:26] RocketScience : rapidtrades: Your vivid expression in trollbox will be regulated too :P
[2016-10-29 21:45:32] michiel_kaas : Nice
[2016-10-29 21:45:59] michiel_kaas : Lets predict what the price will be tommorow
[2016-10-29 21:46:12] michiel_kaas : I think 1067 dollar
[2016-10-29 21:46:16] Tetsuo : ZEC futures were a full success, congrats to Bitmex team!
[2016-10-29 21:46:17] RocketScience : 731-740
[2016-10-29 21:46:38] michiel_kaas : What are you going to do if it will be 1067 dollars?
[2016-10-29 21:46:45] Tetsuo : brought a lot of good young people in here
[2016-10-29 21:46:53] RocketScience : retire if i don't get adl'ed
[2016-10-29 21:47:25] michiel_kaas : Crazy that there are only 42 coins
[2016-10-29 21:47:41] michiel_kaas : 439*
[2016-10-29 21:47:44] michiel_kaas : 42 to buy
[2016-10-29 21:48:26] RocketScience : If i would mine the first block i'd keep that zec forever
[2016-10-29 21:48:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 5 @ 0.427500
[2016-10-29 21:48:48] michiel_kaas : Why?
[2016-10-29 21:49:01] michiel_kaas : You could sell it for huge amounts of money
[2016-10-29 21:49:08] Gr33d : Because supply will only go up...
[2016-10-29 21:49:15] RocketScience : To be like satoshi, who never moved his first coins
[2016-10-29 21:49:16] michiel_kaas : What is much money for you guys btw?
[2016-10-29 21:49:32] Gr33d : £10
[2016-10-29 21:49:35] michiel_kaas : xD
[2016-10-29 21:49:45] RocketScience : 10k is like woow
[2016-10-29 21:49:58] michiel_kaas : I have 0.00095658 bitcoin on my poloniex
[2016-10-29 21:50:12] michiel_kaas : should I buy some ZEC just for the lolo
[2016-10-29 21:50:29] michiel_kaas : peanutbutter bolo
[2016-10-29 21:50:32] michiel_kaas : ?
[2016-10-29 21:50:32] Gr33d : michiel_kaas: yes.... But not yet