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[2016-10-29 02:00:21] TwinnerD : ok now I am confused, I went from 3 bars to 2 bars
[2016-10-29 02:00:36] TwinnerD : even though my counterparties must be much worse off
[2016-10-29 02:00:40] cwfabc : Maybe 1:1 should come soon
[2016-10-29 02:01:25] rapidtrades : not a single buy in the last 2 hrs....like how stupid are u ppl
[2016-10-29 02:01:38] TwinnerD : why are you not buying? you said we will get to 10
[2016-10-29 02:01:45] TwinnerD : easy money my friend
[2016-10-29 02:01:57] tiger888 : test net How to recharge
[2016-10-29 02:01:58] Gr33d : heh
[2016-10-29 02:02:10] cwfabc : zec take profit
[2016-10-29 02:02:16] cwfabc : dump zec
[2016-10-29 02:02:20] rapidtrades : tiger888: u need test bitcoins
[2016-10-29 02:02:34] l3f : shaking out weak hands
[2016-10-29 02:03:02] cwfabc : polofinex down to 10 now
[2016-10-29 02:03:07] Greg_Colbourn : rapidtrades: take some profit whilst you've still got some
[2016-10-29 02:03:08] Gr33d : I the only person on btc sell side? :O
[2016-10-29 02:03:57] cwfabc : Gr33d: good luck ,guys
[2016-10-29 02:04:23] maker101 : XMR shorting is fun
[2016-10-29 02:04:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 190 @ 0.007890
[2016-10-29 02:04:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.007890
[2016-10-29 02:04:34] Gr33d : maker101: XMR shorting is life
[2016-10-29 02:04:41] maker101 : Gr33d: lol
[2016-10-29 02:04:41] cwfabc : BTC rocket again
[2016-10-29 02:05:10] tiger888 : Where there is a bitcoin test
[2016-10-29 02:05:16] Gr33d : I was XMR short from just under peak down to 0.00105
[2016-10-29 02:05:26] maker101 : As soon as BTC pumps, short alts and with Zec XMR is ripe for downfall
[2016-10-29 02:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 600 @ 0.00568
[2016-10-29 02:06:12] rapidtrades : tiger888: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet
[2016-10-29 02:06:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 40 @ 698.52
[2016-10-29 02:06:28] rapidtrades : see links on bottom
[2016-10-29 02:07:21] rapidtrades : MM trying hard to margin everyone
[2016-10-29 02:07:37] rapidtrades : not really fair game with capped upside and not capped downside
[2016-10-29 02:08:05] Coach_Z : downside capped at zero
[2016-10-29 02:08:07] Coach_Z : for zec
[2016-10-29 02:08:10] MrRGnome : Dear god eth, stop dropping!
[2016-10-29 02:08:11] TwinnerD : yes, this is manipulation, not pure fundamentals
[2016-10-29 02:08:13] Sasukeevil : ZEC long squeeze incoming
[2016-10-29 02:08:23] Greg_Colbourn : Coach_Z: lol nice
[2016-10-29 02:08:59] rapidtrades : TwinnerD: don't talk to me about coin fundametals
[2016-10-29 02:09:16] vijay : Sasukeevil: yes
[2016-10-29 02:09:30] TwinnerD : yes, sorry. I should have realized that with your brain damage this would overwhelm you
[2016-10-29 02:09:34] TwinnerD : terribly sorry
[2016-10-29 02:09:38] Greg_Colbourn : 1.66 anyone?
[2016-10-29 02:10:18] vijay : Greg_Colbourn: n
[2016-10-29 02:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 699.20
[2016-10-29 02:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6423 @ 699.33
[2016-10-29 02:10:47] l3f : Greg_Colbourn: I think it'll approach 1
[2016-10-29 02:10:49] l3f : dream big
[2016-10-29 02:10:53] l3f : and we'll buy the pump from there
[2016-10-29 02:11:17] vijay : l3f: yes...
[2016-10-29 02:11:25] Greg_Colbourn : l3f: yeah, that was the price before the Poloniex pump, which was just an anomaly down to very low supply.
[2016-10-29 02:11:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 1.805897
[2016-10-29 02:11:48] TwinnerD : hahaha
[2016-10-29 02:11:52] l3f : kek
[2016-10-29 02:11:55] Greg_Colbourn : Rekt!
[2016-10-29 02:12:02] Gr33d : hmmm btc might do a double jump here
[2016-10-29 02:12:17] l3f : I'm afraid to enter now on a short because some fuckward would just pump and I'm going to be on the REKT bot
[2016-10-29 02:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 1.771162
[2016-10-29 02:12:27] TwinnerD : ha
[2016-10-29 02:13:01] Greg_Colbourn : l3f: yeah pretty dangerous now, what would liq price be for a 1x though? Maybe 3?
[2016-10-29 02:13:29] atodorov07 : which is cheaper to hold, the swap or the dec 30 contract ?
[2016-10-29 02:13:39] l3f : nfi, I've made 2.3 btc today, time to sit and watch the fireworks
[2016-10-29 02:13:42] l3f : Greg_Colbourn:
[2016-10-29 02:14:03] Greg_Colbourn : l3f: nice. I'm sitting on over 1 unrealised. Maybe I should get out..
[2016-10-29 02:14:04] TwinnerD : atodorov07: for what coin?
[2016-10-29 02:14:09] vijay : l3f: good job
[2016-10-29 02:14:12] atodorov07 : btc
[2016-10-29 02:15:04] TwinnerD : the swap should be much cheaper 60 * 3 * 0.0008 is still much less than the difference
[2016-10-29 02:15:21] TwinnerD : and 0.0008 is pretty much top rate
[2016-10-29 02:15:32] cwfabc : zec maybe down to 1 BTC soom
[2016-10-29 02:15:33] atodorov07 : thanks
[2016-10-29 02:15:58] Coach_Z : zec down to 1 today 0.1 by december 30
[2016-10-29 02:16:23] TwinnerD : we will see 0.1 by end of november, no need to wait till dec 30th
[2016-10-29 02:16:33] vijay : ZEC Can maintain Current BTC Price or not
[2016-10-29 02:16:43] Greg_Colbourn : Not
[2016-10-29 02:16:50] Tetsuo : Not
[2016-10-29 02:16:54] Coach_Z : I would short a lot more if we had 50% limits in place
[2016-10-29 02:17:00] Greg_Colbourn : there will be 1000 for sale within a week (only 10 for sale on Polo now)
[2016-10-29 02:17:08] Coach_Z : we should really put the 50% limits back in place every 8 hours
[2016-10-29 02:17:31] Coach_Z : because otherwise shorts could just get squeezed from market manipulations
[2016-10-29 02:17:41] Coach_Z : shorts still have the cap at 10
[2016-10-29 02:17:43] Coach_Z : but that's it
[2016-10-29 02:19:28] Coach_Z : zec about to fall below 10 on polo
[2016-10-29 02:20:48] TwinnerD : nah, can't happen. rapidtrades analyzed it and said its impossible
[2016-10-29 02:20:49] Sasukeevil : say goodbye to price 10 :)
[2016-10-29 02:21:43] maker101 : People who shorted Zec at 10 have a zero risk position
[2016-10-29 02:21:51] maker101 : The perfect short
[2016-10-29 02:22:02] maker101 : People who bought at 10.. when how would they expect to make a gain lol
[2016-10-29 02:22:21] maker101 : It won't even go above 10 nasty
[2016-10-29 02:23:08] j8 : they bought at 10 when sam said "ok we're removing the limit in 5 mins" then hopefully sold when he said "jk lol"
[2016-10-29 02:23:26] maker101 : HAHAHAHA
[2016-10-29 02:23:33] maker101 : Good joke
[2016-10-29 02:23:35] MrRGnome : I sold at 10, and it did not feel 0 risk. price was over 500 btc on polo and Sam was minutes away from removing th elimit
[2016-10-29 02:23:53] MrRGnome : I saw my entire account balance flash before my eyes
[2016-10-29 02:24:12] maker101 : MrRGnome: sure it's flashing nicely before your eyes now
[2016-10-29 02:24:23] MrRGnome : I got out with 2.6 btc
[2016-10-29 02:24:29] MrRGnome : but eth is effing ruining me
[2016-10-29 02:24:39] maker101 : You longing ETH?
[2016-10-29 02:24:40] l3f : I bought at the eth IPO
[2016-10-29 02:24:43] MrRGnome : I am
[2016-10-29 02:24:46] l3f : 500 usd for 2k eth
[2016-10-29 02:24:52] l3f : and then I lost my private key
[2016-10-29 02:24:57] l3f : I still cry to this day
[2016-10-29 02:25:08] l3f : the pain doesn't stop
[2016-10-29 02:25:22] TwinnerD : how does one lose a private key?
[2016-10-29 02:25:28] l3f : by leaving it in my email
[2016-10-29 02:25:34] l3f : and deleting all my emails
[2016-10-29 02:25:37] MrRGnome : I was long at 0.01890 on eth waiting for the next hard fork, been cost averaging in since and trying to deleverage when i can
[2016-10-29 02:25:41] MrRGnome : but it's not very nice at all
[2016-10-29 02:25:44] TwinnerD : there is always a backup somewhere
[2016-10-29 02:25:50] TwinnerD : do you use thunderbird or a smartphone?
[2016-10-29 02:26:03] Tetsuo : 9
[2016-10-29 02:26:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 195000 @ 0.00001094
[2016-10-29 02:26:08] Sasukeevil : just below 10 btc
[2016-10-29 02:26:19] TwinnerD : its pretty much impossible to delete emails onces synced
[2016-10-29 02:26:23] Tetsuo : 8
[2016-10-29 02:26:28] l3f : TwinnerD: nah I left it in my gmail (with no backup), then nuked my inbox because I was paraonoid
[2016-10-29 02:26:44] l3f : anyways 20k usd in the bin
[2016-10-29 02:26:45] MrRGnome : I'm pissed that because of the two pools I am using I couldn't even sell my eth
[2016-10-29 02:26:49] MrRGnome : err zec
[2016-10-29 02:26:52] TwinnerD : contact gmail then. they have a backup
[2016-10-29 02:26:57] Greg_Colbourn : l3f: bet google still have a copy somewhere. Or the NSA at any rate!
[2016-10-29 02:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 104444 @ 0.00001063
[2016-10-29 02:27:12] l3f : Greg_Colbourn: :^)
[2016-10-29 02:27:41] TwinnerD : inb4 REKT ZEK
[2016-10-29 02:27:42] Greg_Colbourn : Whoa! 1.31!
[2016-10-29 02:27:54] l3f : yeah but the ask- bid gap is insane
[2016-10-29 02:27:59] l3f : like wtf
[2016-10-29 02:28:04] Greg_Colbourn : Surprised ADL isn't happening
[2016-10-29 02:28:18] Sasukeevil : when should I close the short positions?
[2016-10-29 02:28:21] TwinnerD : Greg_Colbourn: rapid has deep pockets
[2016-10-29 02:28:25] TwinnerD : thats why
[2016-10-29 02:28:35] TwinnerD : Sasukeevil: <0.1
[2016-10-29 02:28:42] l3f : trailing stop?
[2016-10-29 02:29:35] Sasukeevil : @TwinnerD awsome
[2016-10-29 02:30:04] rapidtrades : guys don't worry be happy
[2016-10-29 02:30:08] rapidtrades : money isn't everything
[2016-10-29 02:30:41] TwinnerD : true
[2016-10-29 02:30:42] Sasukeevil : thinking if it will break 1 btc today
[2016-10-29 02:35:27] rapidtrades : we're now at 500 ZEC volume
[2016-10-29 02:36:20] rapidtrades : another 10-12 hrs and bitmex will have another 'discussion'
[2016-10-29 02:37:29] arbitrage001 : money is everything
[2016-10-29 02:37:35] arbitrage001 : can buy love
[2016-10-29 02:37:38] TwinnerD : "Healthy deposits and withdrawals"
[2016-10-29 02:37:40] arbitrage001 : diddo
[2016-10-29 02:37:42] TwinnerD : that is still missing
[2016-10-29 02:37:44] arbitrage001 : and vibrator
[2016-10-29 02:37:59] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: can't buy u a bigger pe*nis azn
[2016-10-29 02:38:00] arbitrage001 : and viagra
[2016-10-29 02:38:15] arbitrage001 : penis enlargement costs money also
[2016-10-29 02:38:26] rapidtrades : that's not a real thing
[2016-10-29 02:38:32] arbitrage001 : real enough to me
[2016-10-29 02:38:45] rapidtrades : i mean it's a scam u idiot
[2016-10-29 02:38:47] Gr33d : rapidtrades:Penis enlargement is a real thing. I can confirm.
[2016-10-29 02:38:57] arbitrage001 : i feel good getting scam
[2016-10-29 02:39:03] arbitrage001 : with my huge dick
[2016-10-29 02:41:39] l3f : see if you shorted just then you could have been played
[2016-10-29 02:42:02] l3f : polo's moving back up
[2016-10-29 02:42:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 254 @ 700.66
[2016-10-29 02:43:24] Greg_Colbourn : I'm out. 1.3BTC profit :-)
[2016-10-29 02:43:47] aethlios : what a scam that polo zec
[2016-10-29 02:43:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 2.457575
[2016-10-29 02:43:56] Greg_Colbourn : Phew, just in time!
[2016-10-29 02:43:58] l3f : ^
[2016-10-29 02:44:04] l3f : Greg_Colbourn: good job
[2016-10-29 02:44:09] imabeast : eek
[2016-10-29 02:44:21] l3f : the fuckward pumped
[2016-10-29 02:44:36] Greg_Colbourn : might short again now :-)
[2016-10-29 02:44:54] l3f : Greg_Colbourn: :^)
[2016-10-29 02:44:55] rapidtrades : u do that :)
[2016-10-29 02:45:10] Tetsuo : y short zec, when u can make easily more profits by trading BTC
[2016-10-29 02:45:20] imabeast : when u short. do you have to put it at the price of the buys?
[2016-10-29 02:45:35] imabeast : in order for it to execute?
[2016-10-29 02:45:41] TwinnerD : I short ZEC to make a statement
[2016-10-29 02:45:45] Gr33d : Tetsuo: cuz trading btc is too easy, no fun.
[2016-10-29 02:46:29] Tetsuo : 2.9409 XBT (209.07%), thx
[2016-10-29 02:46:46] Tetsuo : thx baby jesus aka BTC
[2016-10-29 02:47:40] Tetsuo : to get 200% by shorting zec u have to wait days, maybe even 1-2 weeks
[2016-10-29 02:47:52] TwinnerD : I did it within hours
[2016-10-29 02:48:06] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: it's obvious ZEC is going down. Not so obvious which way BTC is going
[2016-10-29 02:48:30] Kahir : lol
[2016-10-29 02:48:36] Greg_Colbourn : imabeast: you can do a limit order, and wait for someone to buy it
[2016-10-29 02:49:40] TwinnerD : sub 10 again
[2016-10-29 02:50:40] Tetsuo : Greg_Colbourn: i think i´m sleepin much better with a BTC long than a ZEC short, especially with that huge discount to polo
[2016-10-29 02:50:44] Sasukeevil : so who was pushing ZEC back above 10? pumping group?
[2016-10-29 02:51:12] Tetsuo : crazier things have happened in the last days with zex, icap could be removed and you might find yourself @ 15
[2016-10-29 02:51:14] l3f : shorts being squeezed and popped
[2016-10-29 02:51:24] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: you can't compare Polo with here (that's the 150ZEC supply price being compared with the 300,000ZEC supply price!)
[2016-10-29 02:51:31] aethlios : btc to 1200, told you since 575, after 800 btc will get ugly
[2016-10-29 02:51:39] rapidtrades : Greg_Colbourn: GREG noone likes u here
[2016-10-29 02:51:39] Tetsuo : aethlios: +1
[2016-10-29 02:51:49] Coach_Z : any mods here?
[2016-10-29 02:51:57] Tetsuo : Coach_Z: how can i help you?
[2016-10-29 02:52:02] laisee : Bitfinex ZEC markets look crazy.
[2016-10-29 02:52:05] rapidtrades : mods are hiding atm
[2016-10-29 02:52:54] laisee : they're all trading on POLO
[2016-10-29 02:53:10] l3f : who's the counterparty when the futures market launched for ZEC?
[2016-10-29 02:53:23] Tetsuo : rapid
[2016-10-29 02:53:24] TwinnerD : nobody
[2016-10-29 02:53:24] Coach_Z : l3f, Auto Deleverage
[2016-10-29 02:53:32] laisee : everyone
[2016-10-29 02:53:53] rapidtrades : l3f: THE JEWS
[2016-10-29 02:53:53] l3f : Coach_Z: how many units did they create?
[2016-10-29 02:54:18] Coach_Z : https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-29 02:54:26] Tetsuo : 3 jews 1 greek and rapid that´s the whole army
[2016-10-29 02:54:29] aethlios : say antios to 10 for ever now
[2016-10-29 02:54:32] Coach_Z : gonna drop to 9 real fast
[2016-10-29 02:54:36] rapidtrades : who has polo account? tell them how cheap we are here
[2016-10-29 02:54:42] rapidtrades : they're overpaying
[2016-10-29 02:54:49] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: i have a lifetime ban over there
[2016-10-29 02:54:56] rapidtrades : how come
[2016-10-29 02:55:00] rapidtrades : ur so nice
[2016-10-29 02:55:05] Tetsuo : by mistake i think
[2016-10-29 02:55:09] Coach_Z : People are paying 10 to play with a tiny amount
[2016-10-29 02:55:17] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: i doubt it was a mistake
[2016-10-29 02:55:23] Tetsuo : ????
[2016-10-29 02:55:35] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: polo volume is shallow
[2016-10-29 02:55:36] Coach_Z : like, they're paying 0.1 BTC to play with 0.01 ZEC
[2016-10-29 02:56:03] Tetsuo : miners are laughing all the way to the bank
[2016-10-29 02:56:07] TwinnerD : I would be happy for the miners but the small miners are getting fucked :(
[2016-10-29 02:56:12] Coach_Z : AWS mining is not profitable
[2016-10-29 02:56:14] laisee : greatest fule will win
[2016-10-29 02:56:19] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: trader with deep pocket can bid it up to 100 btc per zcash
[2016-10-29 02:56:37] arbitrage001 : slegar should do it if there is no limit up here
[2016-10-29 02:56:39] aethlios : anywhere i can see total supply for zcash, block explorer doesn't shoe
[2016-10-29 02:57:01] aethlios : ok no says 154
[2016-10-29 02:57:27] TwinnerD : 8
[2016-10-29 02:57:40] laisee : 701 blocks mined
[2016-10-29 02:57:51] TwinnerD : https://explorer.zcha.in/
[2016-10-29 02:58:09] rapidtrades : so 233 ZECs?
[2016-10-29 02:58:28] Coach_Z : no, slow start means only 103 ZEC mined first 24 hours
[2016-10-29 02:58:35] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-10-29 02:58:41] MCT : funny how ZEC traded for 3500BTC and now its 8BTC...lol
[2016-10-29 02:58:42] Tetsuo : 233 ZECs will buy u whole south america in 2 weeks
[2016-10-29 02:58:57] MCT : This is about to drop further
[2016-10-29 02:59:07] Tetsuo : MCT: plz stop trolliing
[2016-10-29 02:59:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 95 @ 0.01602
[2016-10-29 02:59:13] Coach_Z : i'm on the short side, waiting to get Auto DLed
[2016-10-29 02:59:22] rapidtrades : how much further can it fall
[2016-10-29 02:59:42] Wings : thats right shorts, take your medicine
[2016-10-29 02:59:43] Tetsuo : <0.01
[2016-10-29 02:59:48] rapidtrades : nah
[2016-10-29 02:59:49] Wings : adios
[2016-10-29 02:59:52] laisee : 154 ZEC on explorer
[2016-10-29 03:00:09] rapidtrades : 120 btc till 1.5
[2016-10-29 03:00:16] Wings : it should fall sub 50 where it belongs
[2016-10-29 03:00:21] Wings : overhyped bs
[2016-10-29 03:00:24] rapidtrades : can't clear that
[2016-10-29 03:00:33] Tetsuo : huge spike in zec days destroyed appeared, seems like someone cracked open an old wallet
[2016-10-29 03:00:47] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: STOP LAYING
[2016-10-29 03:00:49] TwinnerD : Tetsuo: :D
[2016-10-29 03:01:15] TwinnerD : I heard ZECtoshi is cashing out his 1 Million coins
[2016-10-29 03:01:16] Wings : the bears smell blood
[2016-10-29 03:01:24] Wings : yum yum yum
[2016-10-29 03:02:18] Tetsuo : when BTC stabilizes around 1000$ u can start buyin LTC in huge amounts
[2016-10-29 03:03:10] zcashET : why?
[2016-10-29 03:03:32] Tetsuo : no time to explain
[2016-10-29 03:03:54] zcashET : then dont say it if you cant explain it
[2016-10-29 03:04:01] zcashET : jokes
[2016-10-29 03:04:07] rapidtrades : nothing worse then a cold cup of tea
[2016-10-29 03:04:17] zcashET : im just messing
[2016-10-29 03:04:19] rapidtrades : well i guess warm piss would be worse
[2016-10-29 03:04:28] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: hot pizza that burns your tongue is worse
[2016-10-29 03:04:37] TwinnerD : cup of cyanide is pretty bad too
[2016-10-29 03:04:57] rapidtrades : u guys are weird
[2016-10-29 03:05:02] TraderStefan : I drink my tea iced ;)
[2016-10-29 03:05:17] zcashET : you rapid trades - we are all crazy
[2016-10-29 03:06:00] maker101 : Trading ZEC here is scary lol
[2016-10-29 03:06:35] arbitrage001 : maker101: yes
[2016-10-29 03:06:46] arbitrage001 : limit up and down will screw traders
[2016-10-29 03:06:53] Sasukeevil : seems miners don't want to dump their coins cheap
[2016-10-29 03:06:53] arbitrage001 : hedging gone wrong
[2016-10-29 03:07:04] Sasukeevil : slow dump
[2016-10-29 03:07:06] migz : easy money trading zec. haha
[2016-10-29 03:08:12] l3f : https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance/derivative-securities/forward-futures-contracts/v/backwardation-bullish-or-bearish
[2016-10-29 03:08:14] l3f : ZEC right now
[2016-10-29 03:08:43] aethlios : how soon zec spot below 1??
[2016-10-29 03:09:04] arbitrage001 : aethlios: at least a month away
[2016-10-29 03:09:07] TwinnerD : one forced liquidation away
[2016-10-29 03:09:25] aethlios : arbitrage001: I say 2 days
[2016-10-29 03:09:26] arbitrage001 : doesnt mean it wont go to 100btc first before crashing
[2016-10-29 03:09:50] arbitrage001 : aethlios: have you done proper homework and research before making that statement?
[2016-10-29 03:10:24] migz : imagine shorting 10zec at 10. haha
[2016-10-29 03:12:24] Tetsuo : when did Bitcoint tokens get removed?
[2016-10-29 03:12:37] Tetsuo : BFX i mean
[2016-10-29 03:12:49] Tetsuo : was about time
[2016-10-29 03:13:03] rapidtrades : idk last friday
[2016-10-29 03:13:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 600 @ 0.01586
[2016-10-29 03:13:10] rapidtrades : or this friday?
[2016-10-29 03:13:18] rapidtrades : yday? idk it's a blur
[2016-10-29 03:14:24] Tetsuo : at least those assholes can´t ruin the upcoming BTC pump/bubble anymore, i´m so glad that they are done
[2016-10-29 03:14:49] l3f : 1 still have 1k usd stuck in btf
[2016-10-29 03:14:51] l3f : bfx*
[2016-10-29 03:14:52] l3f : sigh
[2016-10-29 03:16:45] martinium : i am surprised people still trade over there
[2016-10-29 03:16:55] martinium : they still haven't explained how they got hacked
[2016-10-29 03:17:07] aethlios : arbitrage001: my analysis is private.
[2016-10-29 03:20:24] imabeast : zec about to hit the moon
[2016-10-29 03:22:01] Tetsuo : imabeast: i thought we were close to moon @ 3000BTC
[2016-10-29 03:22:10] aethlios : bulls should trade on the expected zcash prine 30 de. which is 0.1 to 0.2, so any price above that is free money to shorts.
[2016-10-29 03:22:10] imabeast : lolol
[2016-10-29 03:22:56] imabeast : that was pretty close :D
[2016-10-29 03:24:36] Coach_Z : aethlios: except for squeeze risk
[2016-10-29 03:24:42] Coach_Z : they need to put the 50% limit back
[2016-10-29 03:24:47] Coach_Z : i would short more
[2016-10-29 03:25:25] aethlios : Coach_Z: that's the problem for short, money management. need large capital and play small, but profit 100% if you manage to hold position
[2016-10-29 03:26:05] aethlios : Coach_Z: when we start mark to the index, you don't care about spikes here.
[2016-10-29 03:26:54] j8 : it won't really be marked to the index though, it'll be spot + basis from impact mid price
[2016-10-29 03:26:55] imabeast : just dont use leverage
[2016-10-29 03:27:33] aethlios : imabeast: when short you always use leverage
[2016-10-29 03:27:47] imabeast : or use cross*
[2016-10-29 03:27:47] imabeast : the lowest one
[2016-10-29 03:27:49] imabeast : lol
[2016-10-29 03:28:30] aethlios : because zcash gone 5 or 10 times up. so can lose multiple of your position value
[2016-10-29 03:29:57] aethlios : zcash 1 mill market cap
[2016-10-29 03:31:49] Tetsuo : http://weuse.cash/2016/10/28/the-untrusted-setup/
[2016-10-29 03:32:44] imabeast : cmon btc dip to me :)
[2016-10-29 03:34:42] ThomasMarkets : if u have 10 btc in your account and short this with cross, then u have 0 chance of being liquidated, right?
[2016-10-29 03:37:51] Kahir : no
[2016-10-29 03:38:06] aethlios : ThomasMarkets: your liq price must be above 10
[2016-10-29 03:38:37] ThomasMarkets : yeah so a 10btc balance would cover that
[2016-10-29 03:38:52] aethlios : ThomasMarkets: yes
[2016-10-29 03:39:03] j8 : you also need to cover the maintenance margin. i.e. you get liquidated before you lose 100%
[2016-10-29 03:40:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 1.613712
[2016-10-29 03:41:08] DangerandPlay : did anyone else make a shit tonne of money last night with zcash?
[2016-10-29 03:41:13] DangerandPlay : :)
[2016-10-29 03:41:28] aethlios : longs robbed shorts
[2016-10-29 03:41:37] imabeast : i got adl'd .. never rebought in unfortunately
[2016-10-29 03:42:49] aethlios : polo pump above 20 lasted a lot and longs here finally followed panic buying to 10
[2016-10-29 03:42:51] jordy : hi, staff.. how to back check the 8 hours interest swap rate for bitcoin
[2016-10-29 03:43:15] Kahir : aethlios: it got to 10 here when it was 2000 on polo
[2016-10-29 03:44:02] aethlios : Kahir: yes, it fall to 100 and repumped to 2000, then bulls here didn't expect that and pumped to 10.
[2016-10-29 03:45:36] aethlios : see how stupid people are, buying now a 21 mill supply coin with 7000 usd, and btc in uptrend. and then markets are the bad where "nice" people lose their money
[2016-10-29 03:46:19] aethlios : 4000 btc volume above 6000 usd price, lost money
[2016-10-29 03:48:17] maker101 : We all want to short ZEC but shorting is dangerous lol
[2016-10-29 03:49:04] aethlios : yes, only with liw price above 10 is safe for now.
[2016-10-29 03:49:13] aethlios : liq. price
[2016-10-29 03:49:28] maker101 : I don't have that kind of liquidity
[2016-10-29 03:49:31] maker101 : :)
[2016-10-29 03:50:13] aethlios : I am 10 contr. short and have added 95 btc margin to have 10.3 liq. price
[2016-10-29 03:50:43] martinium : anyone know the command to sweep a private key address to bitcoin-qt?
[2016-10-29 03:50:55] aethlios : another 3 days for spot to dump to 1.
[2016-10-29 03:52:29] jordy : hi, staff...... how to back check the 8 hours interest swap rate for bitcoin
[2016-10-29 03:53:06] aethlios : jordy: history you mean?
[2016-10-29 03:53:52] aethlios : account> trade history> funding to exec type collum
[2016-10-29 03:54:09] aethlios : OR contracts > funding history
[2016-10-29 03:55:32] jordy : yes...
[2016-10-29 03:56:17] jordy : no...I mean the interest to hold the 50x bitcoin swap
[2016-10-29 03:56:57] aethlios : jordy: above chat funding rate, there where is the volume etc.
[2016-10-29 03:57:28] aethlios : and if you place the cursor to funding rate it shows the expected rate for next 8 hours
[2016-10-29 04:00:00] hazir : how much dose it cost to short? the zcash?
[2016-10-29 04:00:41] aethlios : hazir: zcash has no funding, but you need margin at least 50% to open position
[2016-10-29 04:01:17] aethlios : so to open 1 contract short now need around 0.85 btc capital
[2016-10-29 04:03:31] kryptopojken : if I choose cross margin on a position....and my entire account balance is in a buy order for another contract....will it cancel my order to save the original position from liq?
[2016-10-29 04:03:56] Sidwick : price is still 9 on polo. futures looking solid
[2016-10-29 04:04:46] aethlios : 100 contracts open
[2016-10-29 04:05:45] Sidwick : yup
[2016-10-29 04:06:42] RocketScience : there was like 10 yuan dip in btc and xbt futures orderbook emptied itself on both sides
[2016-10-29 04:06:45] RocketScience : hehe
[2016-10-29 04:07:41] kryptopojken : guys...if I choose cross margin on a position....and my entire account balance is in a buy order for another contract....will it cancel my order to save the original position from liquidation?
[2016-10-29 04:08:16] aethlios : kryptopojken: better wait for bitmex to answer or send a tocket
[2016-10-29 04:08:31] aethlios : suppott ticket
[2016-10-29 04:08:39] kryptopojken : yah agree
[2016-10-29 04:10:18] aethlios : kryptopojken: I don't want to tell you something not 100% sure
[2016-10-29 04:10:38] imabeast : I honestly have no idea why people are buying at 9btc
[2016-10-29 04:10:45] imabeast : good lord
[2016-10-29 04:11:23] Sasukeevil : maybe miners want to dump their coins higher
[2016-10-29 04:12:06] imabeast : no i understand that lol.. but if youre just casually buying thinking that this is gonna go back up?
[2016-10-29 04:13:28] laisee : imabeast: can sell that user called 'greatestfule'
[2016-10-29 04:14:54] laisee : he was on here last night, prolly coming back today ...
[2016-10-29 04:15:19] aethlios : they think 9 is usd, didn't to the math 9*705
[2016-10-29 04:16:31] laisee : heh. bad math will cost $$$.
[2016-10-29 04:17:19] Sasukeevil : I think it's trading bot b/c almost no real volume right now
[2016-10-29 04:18:13] imabeast : how do you check how much volume
[2016-10-29 04:18:14] imabeast : there is
[2016-10-29 04:18:17] imabeast : for zec
[2016-10-29 04:18:40] Booker : kryptopojken: I believe it won't, lost earlier today when my trade closed after opening another. Maybe it shifted the liquidation price I had as a result, although I didn't believe that's how it worked at the time.
[2016-10-29 04:19:13] laisee : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ZECZ16
[2016-10-29 04:19:27] kryptopojken : had the other trade been opened? or was it a standing order? @Booker
[2016-10-29 04:19:31] laisee : imabeast: see url for all ZEC16 details
[2016-10-29 04:20:25] Kahir : ah god
[2016-10-29 04:20:27] Kahir : i want to sleep
[2016-10-29 04:20:29] Kahir : please move
[2016-10-29 04:20:53] kryptopojken : laisee: doesnt answer my question :/
[2016-10-29 04:21:26] Sasukeevil : just closed and need to sleep. slowest dump ever
[2016-10-29 04:21:48] Sasukeevil : even slower than my grandma
[2016-10-29 04:22:04] laisee : kryptopojken: was answering another q. what did u ask?
[2016-10-29 04:22:40] kryptopojken : if I choose cross margin on a position....and my entire account balance is in a buy order for a different pair....will it cancel my order to save the original position from liq?
[2016-10-29 04:23:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 1.730273
[2016-10-29 04:24:05] Kahir : WE MOVING ?
[2016-10-29 04:24:28] Kahir : YES BOII
[2016-10-29 04:24:30] Sasukeevil : yep, it bounced
[2016-10-29 04:24:31] Kahir : "D
[2016-10-29 04:28:32] Booker : kryptopojken: My other trade was open with a lower liquidation price - I was then forced into liquidation, unable to hold my contract (1ZEC) ... I was to liquidate a bit under 1 BTC and my liquidation was in the 1.2x range.
[2016-10-29 04:28:57] kryptopojken : yeah that kinda changes it though
[2016-10-29 04:29:01] kryptopojken : since u were already in a trade
[2016-10-29 04:29:51] Booker : kryptopojken: I suppose, I assumed everything was calculated individually and not pooled together. Still working on the migration from Polo's limited (but basic) margin trading system.
[2016-10-29 04:30:10] kryptopojken : gotcha
[2016-10-29 04:31:12] Sasukeevil : ZEC pumping
[2016-10-29 04:33:21] laisee : polo got some craaazy BOTs trading now
[2016-10-29 04:33:43] imabeast : how do you even get a bot?
[2016-10-29 04:33:54] Sasukeevil : these polo trading bots aew well designed
[2016-10-29 04:34:14] laisee : its a pokemon thing, download the app and you can find one in nearest mall
[2016-10-29 04:34:55] laisee : or just google "github trading bot"
[2016-10-29 04:36:16] coinrun : whoever is short zec at these prices are about to get liquidated
[2016-10-29 04:36:24] kryptopojken : polo looking strong
[2016-10-29 04:37:11] kryptopojken : close your shorts
[2016-10-29 04:37:37] laisee : I foresee epic battle between cash & futures markets - until the central bank steps in and provides liqiuidity.
[2016-10-29 04:38:10] laisee : .... so we may be waiting a while for dat liquidity ;-)
[2016-10-29 04:38:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 1.816059
[2016-10-29 04:39:26] coinrun : REKT: thats 1
[2016-10-29 04:39:26] aethlios : I bet all hackers now try to hack zcash and start inflation,
[2016-10-29 04:40:45] laisee : or hack the code and set loose 1,000s of AWS nodes to execute 51% attack?
[2016-10-29 04:41:05] coinrun : good risk reward here to long
[2016-10-29 04:41:37] aethlios : short zec, bet on gravity rule
[2016-10-29 04:42:03] laisee : cash > futures and u want to shore futures?
[2016-10-29 04:42:46] aethlios : laisee: yes, futures expensive. this contract os the expected price on 30 dec.
[2016-10-29 04:43:45] laisee : hmmm. u hope to hold a contract until market is sane ... but u may get liquidated or ADL'd before then ...
[2016-10-29 04:43:47] aethlios : 330,000 zcash supply on 30 dec. price at most 0.15
[2016-10-29 04:44:18] aethlios : laisee: no if i have liquidation price above the cap.
[2016-10-29 04:44:39] laisee : and the cap will hold until?
[2016-10-29 04:45:11] laisee : it changes.
[2016-10-29 04:45:44] aethlios : laisee: until we follow the index, which means price below 1 and heavy volume, now all polo asks are 11 coins. wait then to be 20,000
[2016-10-29 04:47:10] laisee : yeah, exactly. waiting until blood clears from the water a little
[2016-10-29 04:48:14] laisee : and less risk of Snarknado from ZEC cash markets landing here @ bitmex
[2016-10-29 04:48:25] aethlios : total asks polo value 120 btc,
[2016-10-29 04:48:32] aethlios : only.
[2016-10-29 04:48:56] aethlios : next polo dump to 3-5 btc price
[2016-10-29 04:49:19] laisee : yup. Snarknado approaches ...
[2016-10-29 04:49:45] kryptopojken : what is snarknado
[2016-10-29 04:50:31] aethlios : hackers will fuck zcash, even zooko said doesn't understand the tech completly
[2016-10-29 04:51:40] aethlios : long monero and short zcash a long term profitable strategy, fund monero long with zcash short profits
[2016-10-29 04:52:12] lockhedge : total monetary base is 179 ZEC and 4246 BTC have been traded?
[2016-10-29 04:52:27] imabeast : that dump lol
[2016-10-29 04:52:30] aethlios : lockhedge: on polo less zec traded
[2016-10-29 04:53:38] aethlios : 4300 btc waisted
[2016-10-29 04:53:51] lockhedge : aethlios: isn't that 4249 btc volume? https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_zec
[2016-10-29 04:53:52] Kahir : yeah :D
[2016-10-29 04:54:04] laisee : high waisted on ZEC, yup
[2016-10-29 04:54:25] aethlios : lockhedge: yes
[2016-10-29 04:54:42] shapeshifter : laisee: miners would not agree lol
[2016-10-29 04:55:28] aethlios : so many alts last 4 years and people today behaved like seeing an alt for first time in their life, like a UFO
[2016-10-29 04:56:07] imabeast : lmao
[2016-10-29 04:56:10] laisee : ... this time its different becos the snark!
[2016-10-29 04:57:27] imabeast : think we hit 1.1 soon
[2016-10-29 04:57:42] aethlios : The four most dangerous words in investing are 'This time it's different'.
[2016-10-29 04:59:44] laisee : yeah. since tulip bulbs were the crypto of their time ;-)
[2016-10-29 05:03:22] laisee : ZEC difficulty still quite low
[2016-10-29 05:03:49] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSynwksRDjw
[2016-10-29 05:04:03] aethlios : good analysis, to learn some info
[2016-10-29 05:04:29] aethlios : steem it reached 330 mill cap, no 25
[2016-10-29 05:04:50] Kahir : it will go below 10k
[2016-10-29 05:11:40] billyboy402 : when does the Eth change to weekly ?
[2016-10-29 05:12:21] aethlios : billyboy402: 4 nov
[2016-10-29 05:12:56] Coach_Z : amazing zec is still above 11 on Polo
[2016-10-29 05:13:07] Coach_Z : people are dumping other alts to buy zec, hilarious
[2016-10-29 05:13:14] billyboy402 : oh next week , though they where changing yesterday
[2016-10-29 05:13:28] Coach_Z : they just want to gamble
[2016-10-29 05:13:52] fiq : are there any exchanges that actually selling real zec?
[2016-10-29 05:14:04] billyboy402 : yep , polo and bfx are
[2016-10-29 05:14:31] fiq : billyboy402: no way.. then why bitmex havent?
[2016-10-29 05:14:56] Coach_Z : 13 total ZEC on polo for sale
[2016-10-29 05:15:10] Coach_Z : miners are scrambling to get their ZEC from pools
[2016-10-29 05:15:12] billyboy402 : Bitmex , will never add spot . they are only a future exchange
[2016-10-29 05:15:32] billyboy402 : BitMEX is a derivatives exchange that offers leveraged contracts that are bought and sold in Bitcoin. BitMEX only handles Bitcoin. All profit and loss is in Bitcoin, even if you’re buying and selling altcoin contracts. BitMEX does not handle fiat currency.
[2016-10-29 05:15:37] billyboy402 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-10-29 05:16:30] fiq : thanks for the info
[2016-10-29 05:20:28] fiq : can anyone explain why polo zec price is 11 btc and why bitmx is 1.5 btc?
[2016-10-29 05:22:42] aethlios : fiq: because traders expect price to be 1.5 on 30 dec.
[2016-10-29 05:23:01] aethlios : so trading the market on deep discount
[2016-10-29 05:23:40] aethlios : that's why xbtz16 is 737 and not 703
[2016-10-29 05:41:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.003122
[2016-10-29 06:20:45] jordy : hi, bitmex
[2016-10-29 06:21:36] jordy : @aethlios, I mean how to check the historical funding rate of bitcoin
[2016-10-29 06:22:13] jordy : Hi, Bitmex...may I know how to check the historical funding rate of bitcoin
[2016-10-29 06:24:39] aethlios : jordy: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-10-29 06:33:24] jordy : noted with thanks @aethlios
[2016-10-29 06:38:14] Mm bot : When are we getting mark price?
[2016-10-29 06:38:25] Mm bot : polo zcash mark price
[2016-10-29 06:39:43] GCBGCB : aethlios:
[2016-10-29 06:39:51] GCBGCB : Mention is to raise money or to raise money
[2016-10-29 06:40:28] GCBGCB : aethlios:
[2016-10-29 06:40:31] GCBGCB : Mention is to raise money or to raise money
[2016-10-29 06:42:21] GCBGCB : jordy:
[2016-10-29 06:42:24] GCBGCB : Mention is to raise money or to raise money
[2016-10-29 07:03:12] aethlios : what's up?? how is zec going??
[2016-10-29 07:10:52] wurstgelee : yawn
[2016-10-29 07:10:55] wurstgelee : good day
[2016-10-29 07:11:01] wurstgelee : 9 @ polo
[2016-10-29 07:11:38] wurstgelee : now would be th pefect opportunity to remove that walll....
[2016-10-29 07:11:41] wurstgelee : just saying ;)
[2016-10-29 07:22:25] naskalnik : hellow PIWO wódka
[2016-10-29 07:24:58] aethlios : long journey to zero started for zcash scam
[2016-10-29 07:25:51] sally : all the way back to 0.07 for december settlement lol
[2016-10-29 07:29:45] tomato : hello
[2016-10-29 07:29:53] tomato : i am a girl
[2016-10-29 07:30:39] tomato : who can teach me
[2016-10-29 07:30:54] wurstgelee : we are all girls
[2016-10-29 07:30:57] wurstgelee : nobody can
[2016-10-29 07:31:05] tomato : oh
[2016-10-29 07:31:09] tomato : thanks