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[2016-10-28 23:25:17] Tetsuo : i can confirm this
[2016-10-28 23:25:21] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 23:25:23] rapidtrades : -1
[2016-10-28 23:25:27] kryptopojken : wait what?
[2016-10-28 23:25:28] wurstgelee : see? confirmed
[2016-10-28 23:25:51] wurstgelee : kryptopojken: we are fooling around. thats all.
[2016-10-28 23:25:59] kryptopojken : kk
[2016-10-28 23:26:04] null : fooling around confirmed
[2016-10-28 23:26:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 23:26:24] rapidtrades : great keep fooling around with price marked on last and 20% spread
[2016-10-28 23:26:34] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: so ..about my exit @ 4.9 or something...u jelly? :p
[2016-10-28 23:27:04] rapidtrades : i should've taken that, i'll prolly get ADLed before 5
[2016-10-28 23:27:24] wurstgelee : oh, so u have a really low buy in i figure?
[2016-10-28 23:27:41] wurstgelee : i deserved that exit then, mine was shitty =)
[2016-10-28 23:27:44] Greg_Colbourn : We won't see 5 again
[2016-10-28 23:27:45] rapidtrades : not really it's just below 3
[2016-10-28 23:27:51] wurstgelee : yeah, i had 4 straight
[2016-10-28 23:27:53] wurstgelee : shitty
[2016-10-28 23:28:12] rapidtrades : i must be the only long here to have 5 lights with 1 conract and 0.24 btc profit lol
[2016-10-28 23:28:23] Tetsuo : i can also confirm that rapid is dumber than sliced bread
[2016-10-28 23:28:26] wurstgelee : 2x leverage then i figure
[2016-10-28 23:28:39] rapidtrades : no im on cross
[2016-10-28 23:29:03] Greg_Colbourn : what does cross mean? You sell rather than buy for a long?
[2016-10-28 23:29:05] maker101 : trading Zcash.. might as well go the casino and put it all on black.. toxic (waste)
[2016-10-28 23:29:08] wurstgelee : i forgot, is it based on absolute UPNL or ROE?
[2016-10-28 23:29:11] wurstgelee : who gets ADLed?
[2016-10-28 23:29:35] rapidtrades : i dunno
[2016-10-28 23:29:48] wurstgelee : hm. i can live with not knowing.
[2016-10-28 23:29:55] wurstgelee : cba to check
[2016-10-28 23:30:05] wurstgelee : ill ask again tomorrow maybe
[2016-10-28 23:30:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 23:31:56] rapidtrades : now 130 btc above 10
[2016-10-28 23:31:59] rapidtrades : in bids
[2016-10-28 23:33:15] TwinnerD : So 15 blocks worth of Zcash :P
[2016-10-28 23:33:28] rapidtrades : how long is one block
[2016-10-28 23:34:04] Greg_Colbourn : 10 min
[2016-10-28 23:34:23] Greg_Colbourn : in 1 month there will be 50ZEC released every 10 min
[2016-10-28 23:34:30] rapidtrades : how many ZECs per block now
[2016-10-28 23:34:42] TwinnerD : https://explorer.zcha.in
[2016-10-28 23:34:43] Greg_Colbourn : about 1
[2016-10-28 23:34:47] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-10-28 23:34:52] TwinnerD : No
[2016-10-28 23:34:52] rapidtrades : im so safe
[2016-10-28 23:35:02] TwinnerD : 0.39 and about 3.5 minutes
[2016-10-28 23:35:11] rapidtrades : same thing jew
[2016-10-28 23:36:27] rapidtrades : back above 30 on polo....let's see how far this will go
[2016-10-28 23:37:55] l4ndm1n3 : a stupid question, what is polo !?
[2016-10-28 23:38:03] Greg_Colbourn : Poloniex
[2016-10-28 23:38:08] sleger : l4ndm1n3: a tshirt with a colllar
[2016-10-28 23:38:15] l4ndm1n3 : ::)
[2016-10-28 23:38:16] justinlooking : mint wiht a hole
[2016-10-28 23:39:04] rapidtrades : great 36% spread
[2016-10-28 23:41:27] null : how about now
[2016-10-28 23:41:56] Greg_Colbourn : Marketcap already $2m, so zcash mined so far is worth about 10x what the bitcoin that has been mined in the same time period is worth
[2016-10-28 23:42:28] rapidtrades : Greg, don't be a Negative Nancy
[2016-10-28 23:42:32] rapidtrades : noone likes her
[2016-10-28 23:42:53] Greg_Colbourn : Negative? Surely that's very positive for zcash?
[2016-10-28 23:43:23] Greg_Colbourn : Or should I say.. positive for a z-crash ;-)
[2016-10-28 23:43:45] rapidtrades : more supply seems to be coming in
[2016-10-28 23:43:57] Tetsuo : zcash needs increased leverage to make it more attractive for shorters
[2016-10-28 23:44:09] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: are u retarded?
[2016-10-28 23:44:25] rapidtrades : almost all longs got ADLed today with current lev
[2016-10-28 23:44:46] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: it's risky enough on 1x with this volatility! Any more than 2x and 1 trade the otherway could liquidate!
[2016-10-28 23:45:18] Tetsuo : but whats in it for shorters, , max . lousy 200%
[2016-10-28 23:45:21] rapidtrades : Tetsuo likes to drink on the weekends
[2016-10-28 23:45:41] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: 200% of 3BTC isn't too shabby
[2016-10-28 23:46:12] mike23aa : is ZEC sold for 25btc on poliniex? is that real?
[2016-10-28 23:46:22] rapidtrades : 23.6 now
[2016-10-28 23:46:26] Tetsuo : it was 2500 earlier
[2016-10-28 23:46:32] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-10-28 23:46:39] rapidtrades : 2600 actually
[2016-10-28 23:46:43] mike23aa : wow
[2016-10-28 23:46:46] Greg_Colbourn : mike23aa: look how low the supply is. 3200 was max
[2016-10-28 23:47:16] mike23aa : why buy at that price?
[2016-10-28 23:47:21] mike23aa : it will drop soon
[2016-10-28 23:47:32] rapidtrades : if everyone says it will drop...
[2016-10-28 23:47:39] rapidtrades : finish the sentence
[2016-10-28 23:47:49] TwinnerD : tim_olson14m We are very busy at the moment. Zcash dev team threw a curveball with some late changes and we're patching things up. We will pay out ASAP but it won't be today.
[2016-10-28 23:47:52] Greg_Colbourn : mike23aa: playing the volatility? Expecting a bigger idiot to take it off your hands :)
[2016-10-28 23:47:54] TwinnerD : biggest mining service
[2016-10-28 23:48:08] Tetsuo : TwinnerD: this sounds really bad
[2016-10-28 23:48:16] rapidtrades : ahahaha sounds great if long
[2016-10-28 23:48:28] Tetsuo : oh god, rumours about the bugs are now confirmed
[2016-10-28 23:48:39] mike23aa : some else is mining it with genesismining?
[2016-10-28 23:48:45] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: really? So why hasn't everyone dumped yet
[2016-10-28 23:48:51] rapidtrades : yeah the midget @mike23aa
[2016-10-28 23:49:24] Tetsuo : Greg_Colbourn: y do u ask for logic, it is not active in zcash world
[2016-10-28 23:49:43] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: lol you're right there
[2016-10-28 23:50:45] TwinnerD : if it hits 4.478 I am liqidated for 10 contracts :O
[2016-10-28 23:52:01] Tetsuo : fyl?
[2016-10-28 23:52:14] TwinnerD : still hopeful!
[2016-10-28 23:52:15] martinium : TwinnerD: thats dangerous
[2016-10-28 23:52:19] martinium : this will still pump
[2016-10-28 23:52:21] Greg_Colbourn : TwinnerD: time to throw more money into shorts?
[2016-10-28 23:52:22] negamax : TwinnerD: every
[2016-10-28 23:52:42] negamax : TwinnerD: every new block is taking out 20+ btc..
[2016-10-28 23:53:06] Tetsuo : TwinnerD: u have my moral support at least, if that means something to u : - )
[2016-10-28 23:53:11] negamax : TwinnerD: don't think price will sustain
[2016-10-28 23:53:31] rapidtrades : negamax: it's not taking out 20 btc...cos ppl are not selling
[2016-10-28 23:53:40] rapidtrades : why would u sell the one true great coin
[2016-10-28 23:54:14] negamax : rapidtrades: good point ;)
[2016-10-28 23:54:41] Tetsuo : famous last words
[2016-10-28 23:55:47] Greg_Colbourn : No one is trading. Someone dump into that 2.66 wall already.. (I mean, $600m marketcap on Dec 30th, really!?)
[2016-10-28 23:55:59] TwinnerD : https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd
[2016-10-28 23:56:05] TwinnerD : someone is mining 80% of blocks now
[2016-10-28 23:56:20] rapidtrades : don't be jelly twinner
[2016-10-28 23:56:21] Tetsuo : it looks pretty bad
[2016-10-28 23:56:26] wurstgelee : TwinnerD: a pool likely
[2016-10-28 23:56:40] rapidtrades : no, its his whore mother
[2016-10-28 23:57:06] TwinnerD : can you block/mute retards in this chat?
[2016-10-28 23:57:21] negamax : TwinnerD: yes, just don't respond to them!
[2016-10-28 23:57:34] Tetsuo : new lows soon on polo
[2016-10-28 23:57:41] wurstgelee : TwinnerD: no, u have to embrace and feed them here
[2016-10-28 23:57:55] wurstgelee : at least rapidtrades, he is our mascot ;)
[2016-10-28 23:59:35] TwinnerD : I am just trolling btw
[2016-10-29 00:00:01] wurstgelee : me 2
[2016-10-29 00:00:26] TwinnerD : that account is literally the genesis account. anyone betting thousands of USD on that coin should know
[2016-10-29 00:01:09] wurstgelee : TwinnerD: if it is a pool
[2016-10-29 00:01:12] wurstgelee : a public one
[2016-10-29 00:01:22] TwinnerD : read the msg abovr
[2016-10-29 00:01:31] wurstgelee : this would be no problem regarding distrbution but attack potential
[2016-10-29 00:01:35] wurstgelee : sec
[2016-10-29 00:01:37] Smartass : When one gets liquidated when you get the rest of your maintainenance margin
[2016-10-29 00:01:48] Smartass : ????
[2016-10-29 00:01:57] wurstgelee : Smartass: never
[2016-10-29 00:02:10] wurstgelee : if u get liquidated, your maintenance margin is gone
[2016-10-29 00:02:17] Smartass : wurstgelee: WTF?????
[2016-10-29 00:02:20] wurstgelee : that determines your liquidation price
[2016-10-29 00:02:25] wurstgelee : thats how it works
[2016-10-29 00:02:51] Smartass : but one can see in the list of trades that the price was just a little over the liquidation price
[2016-10-29 00:02:55] wurstgelee : you get liquidated once your margin is 0
[2016-10-29 00:02:59] wurstgelee : check your emails
[2016-10-29 00:02:59] TwinnerD : but you get a REKT entry. so you got that going for you which is nice
[2016-10-29 00:03:13] wurstgelee : you get detailed explanation per email
[2016-10-29 00:03:19] wurstgelee : with liquidation price, mark price etc
[2016-10-29 00:03:19] Tetsuo : well at least i´m quite sure now, that people will accept 5-10k BTC/USD as a price without even asking
[2016-10-29 00:03:28] Smartass : so 2 contracts *25%= almost 50% should be left..
[2016-10-29 00:03:28] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: yes
[2016-10-29 00:03:35] wurstgelee : haha, same thought an hour ago
[2016-10-29 00:03:47] wurstgelee : people have absolutely no problem paying 5k per coin
[2016-10-29 00:03:49] wurstgelee : or 10k
[2016-10-29 00:03:50] Smartass : wurstgelee: i have but they calculate wrongly with bankcruptsy price
[2016-10-29 00:04:00] Smartass : which was never reached
[2016-10-29 00:04:11] wurstgelee : Smartass: i doubt that but better ask the admins
[2016-10-29 00:04:28] wurstgelee : sam or wally maybe
[2016-10-29 00:05:14] cenkzu : wurstgelee: did you make a small fortune on zcash so far?
[2016-10-29 00:05:37] wurstgelee : cenkzu: i am good. best in result in crypto today
[2016-10-29 00:05:43] wurstgelee : ever
[2016-10-29 00:05:47] wurstgelee : *per day ;)
[2016-10-29 00:05:50] Smartass : @wurstgelee you never saw this? they calculate with bankruptcy price which is a theoretical number not an actaul price which was reached
[2016-10-29 00:05:53] cenkzu : hehe nice for you
[2016-10-29 00:05:58] wurstgelee : yep :)
[2016-10-29 00:06:17] cenkzu : my second worst day in crypto
[2016-10-29 00:06:22] cenkzu : well 3rd :D
[2016-10-29 00:06:31] wurstgelee : cenkzu: so u shorted? :|
[2016-10-29 00:06:39] rapidtrades : cenkzu: what were 1 and 2?
[2016-10-29 00:06:51] TwinnerD : after today I will invest 50 BTC into KMD, the first zcash fork
[2016-10-29 00:06:52] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: gox & mintpal?
[2016-10-29 00:06:54] wurstgelee : maybe
[2016-10-29 00:06:57] cenkzu : yeah i shorted at 3.6btc
[2016-10-29 00:07:02] cenkzu : and got MC at 9
[2016-10-29 00:07:09] wurstgelee : ouch
[2016-10-29 00:07:19] cenkzu : nah worst i wont tell what happened, :D
[2016-10-29 00:07:24] wurstgelee : fatfinger?
[2016-10-29 00:07:26] cenkzu : second worst i lost 6.5k
[2016-10-29 00:07:28] wurstgelee : that was my worst
[2016-10-29 00:07:29] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-29 00:07:41] wurstgelee : 6 btc fatfinger or something
[2016-10-29 00:07:43] wurstgelee : instarekt
[2016-10-29 00:07:44] Smartass : 2.5 K today for me
[2016-10-29 00:07:44] cenkzu : where did you fat finger?
[2016-10-29 00:07:50] wurstgelee : worst day because fucking dumb
[2016-10-29 00:07:59] wurstgelee : cenkzu: here.
[2016-10-29 00:08:03] wurstgelee : 1 year ago
[2016-10-29 00:08:08] wurstgelee : when btc dumped after the pump
[2016-10-29 00:08:10] wurstgelee : early november
[2016-10-29 00:08:12] cenkzu : I c
[2016-10-29 00:08:28] wurstgelee : bought 50000 at the beginning of the dump....
[2016-10-29 00:08:33] wurstgelee : i wanted to short...
[2016-10-29 00:08:49] cenkzu : hehe
[2016-10-29 00:09:02] wurstgelee : it went so fucking fast,, once i hit 100x to cause liqudation i was down 6 btc
[2016-10-29 00:09:05] wurstgelee : 2 secs ;)
[2016-10-29 00:09:06] cenkzu : i shorted today, but a bit too fast haha
[2016-10-29 00:09:30] rapidtrades : why do u ppl keep putting asks below 10
[2016-10-29 00:09:33] rapidtrades : so retarded
[2016-10-29 00:09:41] wurstgelee : i wouldnt have shorted this at any point tho tbh
[2016-10-29 00:10:05] wurstgelee : never seen such thing in crypto
[2016-10-29 00:10:07] MrRGnome : I shorted at 10 and nearly pooped as I saw my entire balance flash before my eyes
[2016-10-29 00:10:18] MrRGnome : I was happy to get out at 6.
[2016-10-29 00:10:36] wurstgelee : i was telling stories about 2 btc per coin two days ago here. almost no beliveres....and now that
[2016-10-29 00:10:48] cenkzu : it was not very smart decision to short at that moment and not actually take a look on whats going on
[2016-10-29 00:10:48] migz : When you get liquidated, you'll get nothing at return. If you sell at your liquidation price, you get 50%
[2016-10-29 00:11:03] MrRGnome : I was telling stories of 5, and when i wanted to be hyperbolic 10. Never thought I'd see 1000
[2016-10-29 00:11:19] wurstgelee : migz: depends on leverage tho
[2016-10-29 00:11:27] wurstgelee : the percentage
[2016-10-29 00:11:47] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: yeah, same stories......good times
[2016-10-29 00:11:50] wurstgelee : (48h ago)
[2016-10-29 00:11:52] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-29 00:12:04] rapidtrades : 7 ZECs on asks now
[2016-10-29 00:12:06] rapidtrades : polo
[2016-10-29 00:12:09] wurstgelee : ath was 3300 actually
[2016-10-29 00:12:29] Tetsuo : when will ATH be broken?
[2016-10-29 00:12:35] Tetsuo : rapid?
[2016-10-29 00:12:43] MrRGnome : I don't know that we'l ever see a 3300 btc coin again
[2016-10-29 00:12:49] migz : ATH is never broken.
[2016-10-29 00:12:50] MrRGnome : once in a lifetime folks
[2016-10-29 00:13:09] rapidtrades : are u sure?
[2016-10-29 00:13:12] rapidtrades : check out 42
[2016-10-29 00:13:12] migz : it can be hyped to 100 later in 8hours.
[2016-10-29 00:13:12] Wings : orchestrated short squeeze guys
[2016-10-29 00:13:16] MrRGnome : I'm not sure of anything anymore
[2016-10-29 00:13:25] Wings : this will drop
[2016-10-29 00:13:41] Wings : but youll need a whole lotta btc to push it there
[2016-10-29 00:14:01] Wings : the price is bs
[2016-10-29 00:14:06] MrRGnome : It will go whichever direction it's manipulated to go.
[2016-10-29 00:14:17] MrRGnome : likely every direction as they make money on margin calls of every kind
[2016-10-29 00:14:27] Wings : exactly... what can you expect with such a small fraction of supply liquid?
[2016-10-29 00:14:30] Smartass : migz: but thats not stealing the rest of the money. Usually liquidation takes over liquidates and you get the rest. Not here?
[2016-10-29 00:15:08] migz : Smartass: you will never get the rest. i got liquidated more than 10x for the last 8months here. haha
[2016-10-29 00:15:36] TwinnerD : @smartass read this: https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2016-10-29 00:15:40] TwinnerD : your BTC are there
[2016-10-29 00:15:41] migz : better set that stoploss so you can have atleast 50% return.
[2016-10-29 00:16:07] Smartass : migz: sh*** thats harsh methods usually you get a *real* liquidation price and rest
[2016-10-29 00:16:53] Wings : lol insurance fund currently at highest levels
[2016-10-29 00:16:59] Wings : hmmm... hint hint
[2016-10-29 00:17:12] Smartass : TwinnerD: Ja i just thought this this second. Thats the money they use for this insurance...
[2016-10-29 00:17:21] migz : Smartass: example. liquidation eth price is 0.16, they wont sell it at 0.16, they'll sell it at 0.15. You will not get the rest. lmao
[2016-10-29 00:17:31] MrRGnome : It's almost assuredly wiped out on zcash since people are getting adl'ed. insurance is instrument specific
[2016-10-29 00:17:38] Greg_Colbourn : So 2x the supply tomorrow, 3x the supply day after.. up to 34x the supply on day 34. Price is going 1 way only..
[2016-10-29 00:17:43] MrRGnome : and I know XBTUSD also wiped out its insurance fund about a week ago
[2016-10-29 00:18:18] migz : Greg_Colbourn: pump before day 34. haha
[2016-10-29 00:18:31] Greg_Colbourn : yeah, pump from 0.1 to 0.2BTC ;-)
[2016-10-29 00:18:59] Wings : rationally it should have been a short... but the bulls had an advantage and a higher bankroll
[2016-10-29 00:19:14] Wings : with the cap, now is time to short them to oblivion
[2016-10-29 00:19:34] QuantFocus : yea, until bitmex changes it up on you
[2016-10-29 00:20:22] Wings : true, but i imagine they wont want to go down that route... being unregulated and all..
[2016-10-29 00:20:33] QuantFocus : i wouldn't be too sure
[2016-10-29 00:20:39] Wings : this kind of stuff is illegal on conventional exchanges
[2016-10-29 00:20:45] Greg_Colbourn : Wings: wish I got to short above 8 where it was completely safe (i.e. liquidation price above 10). Missed it by minutes! Still risky now, but did it anyway
[2016-10-29 00:21:02] rapidtrades : Greg_Colbourn: u shorted?
[2016-10-29 00:21:09] TwinnerD : its still a good short at 3.5+
[2016-10-29 00:21:30] Greg_Colbourn : rapidtrades: a while ago, thought you were here when I said
[2016-10-29 00:21:37] migz : You'll never know.
[2016-10-29 00:21:38] HjP : Greg_Colbourn, why is liquidation price above 10 completely sfe?
[2016-10-29 00:21:52] TwinnerD : because of TRUMP
[2016-10-29 00:21:55] migz : It seems 17-18 is floor.
[2016-10-29 00:21:57] Wings : its not completely safe but its an edge
[2016-10-29 00:21:58] TwinnerD : he built a wall
[2016-10-29 00:22:01] Greg_Colbourn : Because 10 is max price set by Bitmex - it crashed into it for about 30 mins and people didn't realise!
[2016-10-29 00:22:05] rapidtrades : TRUMP 2016
[2016-10-29 00:22:16] rapidtrades : trump will make ZEC legal tender
[2016-10-29 00:22:21] rapidtrades : FACT
[2016-10-29 00:22:35] TwinnerD : rapidtrades has brain damage
[2016-10-29 00:22:36] TwinnerD : FACT
[2016-10-29 00:22:42] coinrun : FACT
[2016-10-29 00:22:42] null : ok boys, to the moon
[2016-10-29 00:22:45] Wings : i mean anything close to 10 is a clear sell
[2016-10-29 00:22:49] rapidtrades : CHOO CHOO
[2016-10-29 00:22:54] Wings : then if they lift it stop oit
[2016-10-29 00:22:55] rapidtrades : moon time bitches
[2016-10-29 00:23:09] Greg_Colbourn : rapidtrades: short trump at 4 to 1 to be president is not a bad idea either ;-)
[2016-10-29 00:23:10] HjP : Greg_Colbourne, is this limite documented anywhere? How long is it in place?
[2016-10-29 00:23:25] Wings : forget about trump, look at what came out about hilary today - disgusting
[2016-10-29 00:23:26] rapidtrades : its a bug
[2016-10-29 00:23:45] Greg_Colbourn : HjP: look at announcements (megaphone icon above)
[2016-10-29 00:23:59] MrRGnome : It was an undocumented part of the contract code said sam
[2016-10-29 00:24:00] Greg_Colbourn : HjP: doubt it's going to go anywhere near 10 again though
[2016-10-29 00:24:02] MrRGnome : he didn't call it a bug
[2016-10-29 00:24:18] MrRGnome : either way it's a fuck up
[2016-10-29 00:24:33] HjP : thanks
[2016-10-29 00:24:42] Tetsuo : if hillary gets president btc ---> moon, if trump gets elected btc--->oort cloud
[2016-10-29 00:25:21] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: Oort cloud. Nice, not heard that mentioned as a crypto referrence before
[2016-10-29 00:25:29] Wings : not true tetsuo
[2016-10-29 00:25:40] Wings : hilary is on the side of global financiers
[2016-10-29 00:25:54] Wings : printing money, increasing the supply
[2016-10-29 00:25:56] TwinnerD : why do I have 4 bars when shorting? comeone longs... cashin some more
[2016-10-29 00:26:02] Greg_Colbourn : see half of 3.5 buy wall got pulled!
[2016-10-29 00:26:13] Wings : wheras trump is about nationalism - with some shit policies, but at least hes against the bankers
[2016-10-29 00:26:35] TwinnerD : Wings: are you being sarcastic?
[2016-10-29 00:26:37] Greg_Colbourn : TwinnerD: think it's just low volume. I'm on 5 bars now, even though I'm back in profit
[2016-10-29 00:26:39] rapidtrades : are u ppl still selling 85% below market?
[2016-10-29 00:26:47] rapidtrades : jesus this place needs an IQ test
[2016-10-29 00:26:59] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: are u still buying an alt @ 3
[2016-10-29 00:27:03] TwinnerD : Greg_Colbourn: thats not related to your profit, its your counterparty that determines that
[2016-10-29 00:27:04] coinrun : So did sam announce he's removing the cap yet?
[2016-10-29 00:27:12] Wings : @twinnerd i am indeed
[2016-10-29 00:27:21] TwinnerD : Wings: ))
[2016-10-29 00:27:29] Greg_Colbourn : rapidtrades: yeah, because the market price with 0.03% of the Dec 30th supply is accurate
[2016-10-29 00:27:40] Wings : if hilary is elected money will be printed and btc will explode
[2016-10-29 00:27:50] coinrun : Greg_Colbourn: Truth
[2016-10-29 00:28:04] migz : when the gap tightens, we'll see 10zcash here? :P
[2016-10-29 00:28:45] Wings : guys come on this market is bs we have open interest of 75 contracts
[2016-10-29 00:29:11] TwinnerD : yeah and I hold 20 % of that
[2016-10-29 00:29:28] Greg_Colbourn : migz: no, as soon as the mining rewards are released from the pools, it'll crash
[2016-10-29 00:29:29] Tetsuo : mega whale!!
[2016-10-29 00:29:31] Wings : yummy yummy
[2016-10-29 00:30:16] Greg_Colbourn : what whale?
[2016-10-29 00:30:18] Wings : get out! the peasants are realising the implication of the pump
[2016-10-29 00:30:50] zexder : Hello, I'm not sure if this channel is for bitmex noobs questions, but anyway, any support is over here?
[2016-10-29 00:31:42] Tetsuo : no
[2016-10-29 00:31:50] Tetsuo : try support box
[2016-10-29 00:33:22] j8 : it used to be for noob questions, now it's for pumping ZEC
[2016-10-29 00:34:19] zexder : if I want to sell zec futures lets say at 3.5 why it says my liq price is 3? 3 is less th 3.5
[2016-10-29 00:34:27] zexder : anyone could explain?
[2016-10-29 00:34:47] Wings : the highest probability sell is as close to 10 btc as possible
[2016-10-29 00:34:49] TwinnerD : use "cross" leverage
[2016-10-29 00:35:01] Greg_Colbourn : zexder: are you on cross? Switch to 1x
[2016-10-29 00:35:28] zexder : damn. Lost that possblt to sell at 4.2 im first day here thanks Greg
[2016-10-29 00:35:53] Greg_Colbourn : zexder: I missed shorting at 10 by 3 mins :-(
[2016-10-29 00:36:55] Wings : is this the first time bitmex have capped a market?
[2016-10-29 00:37:23] TwinnerD : the cap always have existed
[2016-10-29 00:37:34] TwinnerD : no market has ever reached it even close
[2016-10-29 00:37:58] Wings : that sets a precedent
[2016-10-29 00:38:01] TwinnerD : go to the ETH/BTC price and try to enter price of 11
[2016-10-29 00:38:32] Wings : futures markets need these restrictions
[2016-10-29 00:38:44] Wings : or else theyre completely manipulated
[2016-10-29 00:39:07] Wings : so its commendable it was enforced
[2016-10-29 00:43:03] Arifitubijak : Helooo
[2016-10-29 00:44:06] TwinnerD : really looked like a REKT sell
[2016-10-29 00:47:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4300 @ 687.37
[2016-10-29 00:47:33] rapidtrades : 146 btc above 10
[2016-10-29 00:47:52] rapidtrades : say ur prayers shorters
[2016-10-29 00:48:38] TwinnerD : you will be so sad tomorrow when futures fall below 1
[2016-10-29 00:48:43] TwinnerD : that you didn't take profits
[2016-10-29 00:49:19] Smartass : Was just slightly over liquidatin price looked pretty algrithmic..
[2016-10-29 00:50:07] Greg_Colbourn : Double digits of ZEC on Polo order books. Going down..
[2016-10-29 00:50:36] MrRGnome : yay! Only 2 more digits to go!
[2016-10-29 00:50:52] TwinnerD : 3 ditigs inflation for a few days
[2016-10-29 00:50:56] TwinnerD : digits*
[2016-10-29 00:51:15] TwinnerD : how do you think the noobs feel that got suckered into buying at 3200 btc? :D
[2016-10-29 00:51:40] Smartass : probably even worse than me ;)
[2016-10-29 00:54:45] l3f : who the fuck is buying the spot price for ZEC
[2016-10-29 00:55:06] l3f : They brave souls buying ZEC right now
[2016-10-29 00:55:35] Greg_Colbourn : fuck
[2016-10-29 00:55:46] Greg_Colbourn : ha, just thought I'd test that :-)
[2016-10-29 00:56:29] Greg_Colbourn : l3f: they must be hoping for bigger fools to gently caress it higher
[2016-10-29 00:56:50] Greg_Colbourn : Think the tide is turning though, and soon sellers are going to rush to the exit
[2016-10-29 00:57:34] l3f : Greg_Colbourn: there is way more liquidity in the futures market right now
[2016-10-29 00:57:58] l3f : I think the spot price will soon to follow as well
[2016-10-29 00:58:44] Greg_Colbourn : l3f: yeah, but still hardly any liquidity here. Might take a day or 2 though (pool mining rewards are being held currently)
[2016-10-29 01:05:39] Rado : I wish I can short at the Poloniex spot price here
[2016-10-29 01:06:09] CaptainDean : that roof is party killer even if my wallet don't allow me to trade :P
[2016-10-29 01:06:14] CaptainDean : is a**
[2016-10-29 01:07:43] TwinnerD : yeah if there were 0.1 ZEC contracts that market would be much more liquid
[2016-10-29 01:07:48] Greg_Colbourn : Rado: if that was possible, the Polo spot price would be the same as here (actually, probably much lower)
[2016-10-29 01:08:36] l3f : I wonder if the pump to 10btc on ZEC destroyed has liquidated any short sellers.
[2016-10-29 01:08:51] l3f : what a painful way to go
[2016-10-29 01:09:14] Greg_Colbourn : especially as it was such a temporary blip
[2016-10-29 01:10:11] l3f : aye
[2016-10-29 01:20:14] TwinnerD : deposits are reaching polo fast now
[2016-10-29 01:20:26] TwinnerD : zec balance is climing steady there
[2016-10-29 01:22:24] Greg_Colbourn : Phew, hoping I'm safe from liquidation now..
[2016-10-29 01:22:48] TwinnerD : if your liq price is below 10 you are not
[2016-10-29 01:23:03] TwinnerD : someone with measly 100 BTC can liquidate you
[2016-10-29 01:24:47] Smartass : Greg_Colbourn: thats how i felt 2 hours ago and then i got liquidated (
[2016-10-29 01:24:55] Greg_Colbourn : why haven't they already?
[2016-10-29 01:25:09] Greg_Colbourn : why don't they keep doing it?
[2016-10-29 01:25:37] TwinnerD : if they can get more people to short at around 2.5 mark, they will have much higher profit from those moves
[2016-10-29 01:25:39] Tetsuo : they would need buy orders to sell into after that
[2016-10-29 01:26:10] Greg_Colbourn : Smartass: was that before or after the 1000BTC+ Polo spike?
[2016-10-29 01:26:16] Greg_Colbourn : Smartass: Oh, when it went to 4.8?
[2016-10-29 01:26:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3500 @ 688.05
[2016-10-29 01:26:19] TwinnerD : if you manipulate you don't actually want to buy up most of the high asks, just trigger he short squeeze
[2016-10-29 01:26:38] Greg_Colbourn : Smartass: that was a close call for me!
[2016-10-29 01:27:21] Greg_Colbourn : TwinnerD: surely that requires getting others to jump on bandwagon. Seeing as Polo pump is over, that seems unlikely now
[2016-10-29 01:27:36] TwinnerD : it actually doesn't
[2016-10-29 01:27:52] TwinnerD : if there is substantial short at 2.5 level, its an easy cascade
[2016-10-29 01:28:03] TwinnerD : but right now there isn't so the point is moot
[2016-10-29 01:28:19] TwinnerD : but this was in regards to the question why they don't do it right now
[2016-10-29 01:29:08] TwinnerD : if you want to see a cool manipulation checkout XBT/USD bitmex market on 26th oct
[2016-10-29 01:29:45] l3f : TwinnerD: what's that about?
[2016-10-29 01:29:46] Greg_Colbourn : how do you now where the shorts are?
[2016-10-29 01:30:00] Tetsuo : Greg_Colbourn: premium accounts are able to see that
[2016-10-29 01:30:02] TwinnerD : you can actually track them with a bot
[2016-10-29 01:30:23] TwinnerD : track when a trade happens and how the open interest changes with that trade
[2016-10-29 01:30:35] Greg_Colbourn : Just from the recent trades
[2016-10-29 01:30:38] Greg_Colbourn : right
[2016-10-29 01:30:41] mjones : zec down to 15
[2016-10-29 01:30:45] Tetsuo : rapid, for your life
[2016-10-29 01:30:50] Tetsuo : *run
[2016-10-29 01:31:06] Tetsuo : 14
[2016-10-29 01:31:07] Greg_Colbourn : someone dump into the 2.66!
[2016-10-29 01:31:50] Greg_Colbourn : Is that there to shore up some longs?
[2016-10-29 01:31:58] Tetsuo : 13
[2016-10-29 01:32:13] Tetsuo : 12
[2016-10-29 01:32:17] TwinnerD : pretty much all ZEC deposits are instantly dumped
[2016-10-29 01:34:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.003388
[2016-10-29 01:35:24] Gr33d : lol
[2016-10-29 01:35:35] rapidtrades : once again retards...the cap is 10...not 3
[2016-10-29 01:36:09] Tetsuo : in 8h the cap will be 1
[2016-10-29 01:36:20] rapidtrades : srs lack of IQ in this chat
[2016-10-29 01:37:21] TwinnerD : atleast you are self aware
[2016-10-29 01:37:29] Gr33d : Buuurn
[2016-10-29 01:37:31] Greg_Colbourn : dude, cash out whilst you're still in profit
[2016-10-29 01:37:47] rapidtrades : don't tell me what to do, GREG
[2016-10-29 01:38:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 600 @ 688.23
[2016-10-29 01:38:56] Greg_Colbourn : Fine, hold all the way down..
[2016-10-29 01:39:21] rapidtrades : i'll hold until we match polo...whatever that may be
[2016-10-29 01:39:33] Tetsuo : 12
[2016-10-29 01:39:59] Greg_Colbourn : Polo's coming down to meet us, and lead us down further
[2016-10-29 01:40:25] TwinnerD : https://i.imgflip.com/1d63jj.jpg
[2016-10-29 01:40:26] TwinnerD : lol
[2016-10-29 01:40:49] Tetsuo : : - D
[2016-10-29 01:41:33] Greg_Colbourn : Matching the 140ZEC supply price with the 300,000ZEC supply price isn't a great strategy
[2016-10-29 01:41:34] rapidtrades : bitmex and their MM guys must be happy with this development
[2016-10-29 01:42:13] TwinnerD : 24 btc to go for sub 10
[2016-10-29 01:42:22] TwinnerD : it was 150 btc a while ago
[2016-10-29 01:42:29] TwinnerD : i wonder why that i
[2016-10-29 01:42:30] TwinnerD : is
[2016-10-29 01:43:09] rapidtrades : dunno, don't care
[2016-10-29 01:43:42] Tetsuo : ETH might go to 0.01
[2016-10-29 01:44:01] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: why?
[2016-10-29 01:44:29] rapidtrades : there's another 100 btc to the current price on polo
[2016-10-29 01:44:46] Tetsuo : technicals, long term support is getting broken , next support around 0.009-0.01
[2016-10-29 01:45:11] Greg_Colbourn : Tetsuo: TA is bullshit
[2016-10-29 01:45:32] Tetsuo : ok
[2016-10-29 01:45:42] quangnguyen91 : z cash is too overvalued
[2016-10-29 01:45:43] TwinnerD : yeah rapittrades 100 btc is sooo much if there is like 100 BTC mined each hour
[2016-10-29 01:45:57] zen10 : Oh kid scouts. now that your zec fun and liquidations are over time lets get serious and long monero. beeches.
[2016-10-29 01:45:58] Rado : Greg_Colbourn: what do you trade on? Fundamentals?
[2016-10-29 01:46:00] TwinnerD : at 99% discount
[2016-10-29 01:46:22] Greg_Colbourn : Rado: fundamentals, sometimes sentiment
[2016-10-29 01:46:31] Gr33d : zen10: Long Monero. Good one, lol.
[2016-10-29 01:46:33] rapidtrades : it's only 77% discount now suckers
[2016-10-29 01:46:36] Tetsuo : i wouldn´t touch any alt with a stick in the next weeks
[2016-10-29 01:46:43] TwinnerD : no the blockreward is 99% reduced
[2016-10-29 01:47:25] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: u missed one hell of a ride today my friend
[2016-10-29 01:47:33] rapidtrades : fortunes were made and lost
[2016-10-29 01:48:45] rapidtrades : there's still a lot more bids then asks on polo
[2016-10-29 01:48:54] Tetsuo : y is that?
[2016-10-29 01:48:56] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-10-29 01:49:05] rapidtrades : ppls just need to get used to the new >10 price thats all
[2016-10-29 01:49:18] rapidtrades : once the sticker shock wears off, it will be cool
[2016-10-29 01:49:37] TwinnerD : your act is so bad. everyone knows you are short and giving your best to troll really bad
[2016-10-29 01:51:14] Gr33d : btc next+1% incoming
[2016-10-29 01:51:42] mjones : lol xbt futures
[2016-10-29 01:51:44] Gr33d : :)
[2016-10-29 01:51:50] TwinnerD : inb4 REKT bot
[2016-10-29 01:51:56] rapidtrades : nice
[2016-10-29 01:51:58] Gr33d : Called it.
[2016-10-29 01:52:02] Gr33d : aha
[2016-10-29 01:52:04] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 161 @ 690.09
[2016-10-29 01:52:06] omicron : ZEC vol > XBT vol
[2016-10-29 01:52:09] TwinnerD : haaa!
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 18201 @ 690.19
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 60000 @ 690.87 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 490 @ 690.54
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : :btc: :rocket: :crescent_moon:
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21110 @ 690.87 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 34000 @ 690.22 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-29 01:52:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 690.57
[2016-10-29 01:52:17] TwinnerD : btw checkout china markets
[2016-10-29 01:52:29] Gr33d : Love it
[2016-10-29 01:52:29] Tetsuo : boom
[2016-10-29 01:52:36] rapidtrades : boom bitches
[2016-10-29 01:52:36] TwinnerD : there is more to come
[2016-10-29 01:52:42] rapidtrades : making money while making money
[2016-10-29 01:52:53] l3f : le pump train
[2016-10-29 01:52:56] TwinnerD : 705 on CNY
[2016-10-29 01:52:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 213 @ 692.10
[2016-10-29 01:52:58] rapidtrades : hopefully this BTC rally will take ur mind of the zec crash
[2016-10-29 01:53:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 813 @ 692.26
[2016-10-29 01:53:22] Gr33d : ty shorts
[2016-10-29 01:53:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 692.37 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-29 01:53:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 137000 @ 692.89 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-10-29 01:53:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50 @ 692.66
[2016-10-29 01:53:29] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 693.24
[2016-10-29 01:53:40] rapidtrades : brutal
[2016-10-29 01:53:47] Gr33d : STAHP
[2016-10-29 01:53:48] Apocalyptic : 137k contracts, not bad
[2016-10-29 01:53:49] TwinnerD : REKTosaurus
[2016-10-29 01:53:59] TwinnerD : the fund will be empty tonight
[2016-10-29 01:54:01] Greg_Colbourn : Is that 137000 dollars!? REKTasaurus
[2016-10-29 01:54:10] rapidtrades : lol China's not even up
[2016-10-29 01:54:13] TwinnerD : RIP insurance fund
[2016-10-29 01:54:14] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4 @ 694.67 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-29 01:54:19] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 95 @ 0.01595
[2016-10-29 01:55:04] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 888 @ 695.24
[2016-10-29 01:55:05] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 @ 695.44
[2016-10-29 01:55:09] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 37 @ 0.01588
[2016-10-29 01:55:12] l3f : short sellers on suicide watch
[2016-10-29 01:55:43] TwinnerD : wow someone just bought 130000 new contracts
[2016-10-29 01:55:46] TwinnerD : thats amazing
[2016-10-29 01:56:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ7D`: Buy 20000 @ 73850
[2016-10-29 01:56:35] Tetsuo : ETH, also new lows, nice
[2016-10-29 01:57:05] Tetsuo : technicals FTW
[2016-10-29 01:57:17] l3f : what a day, what a lovely day
[2016-10-29 01:57:32] TwinnerD : 710 on china
[2016-10-29 01:57:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 2 @ 2.579782
[2016-10-29 01:57:43] Tetsuo : 11
[2016-10-29 01:57:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 2 @ 2.333334
[2016-10-29 01:57:54] Gr33d : mucho liquidation
[2016-10-29 01:58:01] TwinnerD : yes yes yes
[2016-10-29 01:58:04] TwinnerD : its starting
[2016-10-29 01:58:19] Greg_Colbourn : Finally the 2.66BTC ZEC damn has burst :)
[2016-10-29 01:58:45] cwfabc : BTC ROCKET
[2016-10-29 01:58:54] Tetsuo : 10
[2016-10-29 01:59:10] Gr33d : btc profit ----> Zec short
[2016-10-29 01:59:39] cwfabc : Gr33d: YESH
[2016-10-29 02:00:21] TwinnerD : ok now I am confused, I went from 3 bars to 2 bars