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[2016-10-28 10:13:20] uwotmate : soon to be rekt
[2016-10-28 10:13:36] uwotmate : bitmex having trouble handling the load from everyone waiting to sell
[2016-10-28 10:14:00] laisee : @rektbitmex on twitter to follow rekkage(liquidations) at Bitmex
[2016-10-28 10:14:11] uwotmate : imagine ddos and you are helpless to exit while it reks down to 0.1 after limit is removed
[2016-10-28 10:15:46] wurstgelee : uwotmate: go on, short then
[2016-10-28 10:15:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 10:18:17] chromaticcr1 : *ZCrash* won't happen soon :shipit:
[2016-10-28 10:19:12] habibi : Uwotmate i have bids down there to rekt that brave shorter if there will be any
[2016-10-28 10:20:16] wurstgelee : habibi: noooooo. u dont....shut up :)
[2016-10-28 10:20:55] btceurope : I guess that all of you that know that are in shorts and all of you are rich or will be rich soon right?
[2016-10-28 10:21:12] wurstgelee : i am long
[2016-10-28 10:21:13] btceurope : rich people don't lose time in chats
[2016-10-28 10:21:22] wurstgelee : a have been long on zcash for a month
[2016-10-28 10:21:29] wurstgelee : doesnt get longer than that ;)
[2016-10-28 10:21:48] btceurope : good deal
[2016-10-28 10:21:55] wurstgelee : also noone ever said he is rich in here iirc
[2016-10-28 10:22:05] wurstgelee : rich is relative anyways...
[2016-10-28 10:24:01] btceurope : yes im rich spiritually
[2016-10-28 10:35:42] rasdasd : one question..I have never used leverage..if I trade ZEC with cross margin option, does it mean I cant get liquidated?
[2016-10-28 10:36:05] wurstgelee : rasdasd: u can. cross means urentire balance will be used at leverage
[2016-10-28 10:36:18] wurstgelee : as margin
[2016-10-28 10:36:22] rasdasd : okay, I how can I trade without leverage?
[2016-10-28 10:36:29] wurstgelee : 1x
[2016-10-28 10:36:33] rasdasd : okay thanks man
[2016-10-28 10:36:38] wurstgelee : np
[2016-10-28 10:37:07] wurstgelee : you still will have a margin call price, but that should be really, really low...
[2016-10-28 10:37:29] wurstgelee : *liquidation price
[2016-10-28 10:39:37] rasdasd : yep just check it..all good
[2016-10-28 10:41:08] AudibleScience : why is it taking 20 seconds to get an order in the book!
[2016-10-28 10:41:48] dasdfasdf : the lag is real
[2016-10-28 10:42:06] dasdfasdf : 3x as many users as usual
[2016-10-28 10:43:09] FreemanIT : https://medium.com/@yobanjo/zcash-founders-will-make-858-922-per-day-without-mining-968b9dc9edee#.keoq5yfqn
[2016-10-28 10:44:02] wurstgelee : AudibleScience: having connection isues 2.... from europe
[2016-10-28 10:44:18] wurstgelee : sending to trollbox lags a few secs sometimes atm
[2016-10-28 10:44:33] wurstgelee : *s
[2016-10-28 10:45:32] mjones : Lag on mobile bad
[2016-10-28 10:45:51] AudibleScience : this sucks!
[2016-10-28 10:46:09] jj123456 : 有讲中文的吗
[2016-10-28 10:46:23] AudibleScience : 29 seconds lag!!
[2016-10-28 10:46:25] BitMEX_Wally : We're looking into it, might be an issue with the load balancer
[2016-10-28 10:46:27] wurstgelee : admins? experiencing high load?
[2016-10-28 10:46:31] wurstgelee : ah thanks :)
[2016-10-28 10:46:36] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-10-28 10:46:42] wurstgelee : trollbox nw instantly works
[2016-10-28 10:46:52] wurstgelee : restarted nginx?
[2016-10-28 10:46:53] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 10:46:59] dasdfasdf : once it started working
[2016-10-28 10:47:02] dasdfasdf : it was fast again
[2016-10-28 10:47:07] wurstgelee : fast af again
[2016-10-28 10:48:04] maker101 : wurstgelee: You need this box to feel good about your long position so you can cry to someone as you get REKT
[2016-10-28 10:48:26] wurstgelee : *test*
[2016-10-28 10:48:28] wurstgelee : aaaaaand it lags again
[2016-10-28 10:48:44] maker101 : HEHEHEH
[2016-10-28 10:48:57] AudibleScience : 20 seconds
[2016-10-28 10:49:01] maker101 : Yeah, lagging for me too :)
[2016-10-28 10:49:19] wurstgelee : maker101: lol. yes. thats exactly what i am doing here. all the times in fact. publicly stating my position and cry afterwards ;)
[2016-10-28 10:50:09] maker101 : wurstgelee: :P :P :P
[2016-10-28 10:53:08] AudibleScience : lag down to ~6 seconds for me here.
[2016-10-28 10:53:13] Smartass : BitMEX_Wally: i want to second that at the resetting of limit up/down at 22:00 AND 6:00h it took 3-4 minutes (!!) till the page updated so i was not able to trade, when i could trade limit up was reached again
[2016-10-28 10:54:15] maker101 : They might need to upgrade the web servers
[2016-10-28 10:54:44] Smartass : BitMEX_Wally: I have a decent line and live in Frankfurt am Main (which has one of the central DECIX-Knots of europe) that was quite frustrating lost quite some profit because of that...
[2016-10-28 10:54:48] maker101 : Check for DDOS and turn on enterprise DDOS protection in cloudflare
[2016-10-28 10:55:27] maker101 : I know it's $200 per month but you have 1379 users online :P)
[2016-10-28 10:55:35] AudibleScience : maker101: cloudflare is total crap bro!
[2016-10-28 10:56:11] maker101 : AudibleScience: It's not bro! I'm under attack mode completely mitigates all DDOS attacks bro
[2016-10-28 10:57:32] Apocalyptic : Smartass: trading from ECB offices eh?
[2016-10-28 11:00:41] rasdasd : will be interesting to see price after they release zec
[2016-10-28 11:01:47] maker101 : rasdasd: Will be worth 10,000 bitcoins. Like a bitcoin pizza fs
[2016-10-28 11:02:40] AudibleScience : lag is back to 20 again!
[2016-10-28 11:07:56] maker101 : I will be pointing my small penis mining power towards Zcash once it goes live
[2016-10-28 11:08:01] wurstgelee : Smartass: sitting @ a 200mbit synchronous line atm
[2016-10-28 11:08:02] wurstgelee : and its lagging ~ 20 secs+
[2016-10-28 11:08:07] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: any chances lag will be gone until 12 utc?
[2016-10-28 11:14:31] hh : so slow
[2016-10-28 11:14:53] hh : what's going on? DDos attack?
[2016-10-28 11:15:33] zecpumperIseeyou : I wouldn't be surprised
[2016-10-28 11:15:39] zecpumperIseeyou : be prepare for the big short
[2016-10-28 11:16:18] wurstgelee : test
[2016-10-28 11:16:20] wurstgelee : fast
[2016-10-28 11:16:25] wurstgelee : lightning fast atm
[2016-10-28 11:16:56] zecpumperIseeyou : ok for me too
[2016-10-28 11:17:02] wurstgelee : test2
[2016-10-28 11:17:07] wurstgelee : lagging a little again
[2016-10-28 11:17:12] wurstgelee : still fast
[2016-10-28 11:18:35] anonymous789 : test
[2016-10-28 11:18:56] Kalman : was this 1.175 traded a liquidation in zecz16?
[2016-10-28 11:19:03] wurstgelee : .
[2016-10-28 11:19:03] wurstgelee : AAAND lagging again
[2016-10-28 11:19:26] jose : no it was the hype when limit moved
[2016-10-28 11:19:39] jose : expect it to skyrocket in 40mn
[2016-10-28 11:20:00] Kalman : jose: will do. thx
[2016-10-28 11:20:03] wurstgelee : jose: no limit preventing it to rise atm.
[2016-10-28 11:20:10] wurstgelee : altho launch is projected soon
[2016-10-28 11:20:16] wurstgelee : minutes, not hors
[2016-10-28 11:20:19] wurstgelee : *hours
[2016-10-28 11:28:09] Gemz : what does risk limit 'cross' do?
[2016-10-28 11:29:14] uwotmate : the lag here adds another layer of risk
[2016-10-28 11:29:34] uwotmate : risk on top of risk on top of risk
[2016-10-28 11:30:19] uwotmate : it's like a risk sandwich where every ingredient is risk
[2016-10-28 11:33:12] anonymous789 : do we really think it's going higher than 1:1 zec:btc?
[2016-10-28 11:33:20] wurstgelee : test
[2016-10-28 11:33:45] wurstgelee : admins? any sitrep for us? whats with all that lagging? ;)
[2016-10-28 11:33:58] wurstgelee : anonymous789: some do
[2016-10-28 11:34:16] BitMEX_Wally : We are working on it
[2016-10-28 11:34:45] anonymous789 : crazier pumps have happened in crypto i guess...
[2016-10-28 11:36:02] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: :S
[2016-10-28 11:37:39] wurstgelee : :D :D :D
[2016-10-28 11:40:31] zfan : someone is profittaking, unpatiently
[2016-10-28 11:41:01] btceurope : everybody is short in zec????!!!
[2016-10-28 11:41:13] btceurope : from what price?
[2016-10-28 11:41:49] wurstgelee : dunno. still long ;)
[2016-10-28 11:42:14] sleger : whis price did you buy ?
[2016-10-28 11:42:14] zfan : don't know just saw the open interest going 30 lots down
[2016-10-28 11:42:32] Gemz : down to 0.1
[2016-10-28 11:43:17] btceurope : thinking to go short now
[2016-10-28 11:43:33] wurstgelee : gl
[2016-10-28 11:43:34] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-28 11:43:39] uwotmate : ZEC is about to hit 1000+ BTC on polo
[2016-10-28 11:43:46] uwotmate : if you go short now you will regret it
[2016-10-28 11:43:52] wurstgelee : uwotmate: so u changed stance now? finally long? :p
[2016-10-28 11:44:01] uwotmate : still a long buy at this point
[2016-10-28 11:44:22] btceurope : everybody is changing opinion all time
[2016-10-28 11:44:25] btceurope : hahah
[2016-10-28 11:44:30] Gemz : u longs gonna get rekt
[2016-10-28 11:44:48] uwotmate : you really think this remains below 2.0 while poloniex price hits 1000+ ?
[2016-10-28 11:44:52] btceurope : that's trading aaaha
[2016-10-28 11:45:14] zfan : there will be blood soon
[2016-10-28 11:45:16] Gemz : 1000+ what? usd?
[2016-10-28 11:45:25] RoftheN : But spot price doesn't automatically mean that bitmex will follow
[2016-10-28 11:45:28] uwotmate : no 1000+ BTC
[2016-10-28 11:45:33] wurstgelee : RoftheN: ofc it will
[2016-10-28 11:45:36] wurstgelee : why wouldnt it?
[2016-10-28 11:45:50] Gemz : uwotmate: so u say zec will hit 1000+ btc?
[2016-10-28 11:45:57] RoftheN : Because bitmex people generally are smarter than Poloniex and know in advance that it will be a lot less tomorrow
[2016-10-28 11:45:57] uwotmate : there's only 83 ZEC mined on first day to split between bitfinex, poloniex, and kraken
[2016-10-28 11:46:01] btceurope : where you see that data???
[2016-10-28 11:46:03] rasdasd : glad I shorted zec
[2016-10-28 11:46:10] rasdasd : at 0.9
[2016-10-28 11:46:36] rasdasd : may close it now..or not will see
[2016-10-28 11:46:38] uwotmate : if we assume trade volume on that 83 ZEC supply is at least 5000 BTC on first day, then the price is going to hit 1000+ BTC
[2016-10-28 11:46:42] wurstgelee : @btceurope ZEC reward schedule
[2016-10-28 11:46:51] Gemz : uwotmate: lol u noob?
[2016-10-28 11:46:54] wurstgelee : uwotmate: lol
[2016-10-28 11:46:58] RoftheN : I wanna buy ZEC and sell later today but I don't have much left :(
[2016-10-28 11:47:42] uwotmate : no I've been trading for 5 years
[2016-10-28 11:47:44] RoftheN : It's not going to hit 1000 BTC, maybe 10 BTC, but 1000 is just ridiculous. high volume doesn't automatically mean that there's rich retards pumping paying 1000x too much
[2016-10-28 11:48:41] Gemz : nobody gonna pay couple btc for a zec while a month later there gonna be 100k zec around
[2016-10-28 11:49:04] wurstgelee : well, people selling atm obv believe it wont go up from 0.7 in the short term... ;)
[2016-10-28 11:49:07] zfan : i would do that soon after it becomes the ref price
[2016-10-28 11:49:15] uwotmate : people on poloniex pumped potcoin to 5000+ BTC volume, they don't give a shit to think what supply will be 2 days from now
[2016-10-28 11:49:19] zecpumperIseeyou : Gemz, if you look at the chart here, people are actually buying one zec for 0.7 btc
[2016-10-28 11:49:34] Gemz : zecpumperIseeyou: i said a couple btc
[2016-10-28 11:49:36] RoftheN : Uwotmate, I agree, but not 1000 BTC, that's too high...
[2016-10-28 11:49:37] wurstgelee : uwotmate: volume !=price ffs
[2016-10-28 11:49:44] wurstgelee : u should know that after 5 years of trading ;)
[2016-10-28 11:49:47] btceurope : I closed my positon now i was long since yesterday at 0.52 so i earn something the dilema now is go long or go short??
[2016-10-28 11:49:55] uwotmate : the fact is there will be less than 10 ZEC available on poloniex in the first hours
[2016-10-28 11:49:57] RoftheN : btceurope, go short tomorrow
[2016-10-28 11:49:59] zecpumperIseeyou : Yes but demand on polo will be higher
[2016-10-28 11:50:01] Gemz : im not paying like 3 btc for a zec while i know the price will be much less than that a month later
[2016-10-28 11:50:08] RoftheN : There will be less than 1 ZEC in the first hours
[2016-10-28 11:50:11] chromaticcr1 : Go *short* your pants
[2016-10-28 11:50:13] zecpumperIseeyou : so it's possible
[2016-10-28 11:50:18] wurstgelee : Gemz: u maybe wont. polo fomo can make that happen tehre tho imo ;)
[2016-10-28 11:50:35] RoftheN : Gemz, you don't have to buy 1, you can just buy 0.01 on Poloniex, and if lots of people do that..
[2016-10-28 11:50:40] Gemz : wurstgelee: what if its fomo to the down side lol
[2016-10-28 11:50:44] uwotmate : do you guys remember auroracoin pump? It doesn't have to be rational
[2016-10-28 11:50:48] wurstgelee : Gemz: no
[2016-10-28 11:50:50] wurstgelee : wont happen
[2016-10-28 11:51:02] RoftheN : It's not rational, but it's not going over 100 BTC either
[2016-10-28 11:51:05] wurstgelee : uwotmate: 1000 btc is just....too off
[2016-10-28 11:51:13] btceurope : Last example was augur REP
[2016-10-28 11:51:29] btceurope : go down dramatically
[2016-10-28 11:51:41] Gemz : then why is everyone yelling how ridiculous zecs price is atm?
[2016-10-28 11:51:54] RoftheN : Cuz it's going to be very profitable
[2016-10-28 11:51:59] wurstgelee : btceurope: augur: fully amount of coins supply at once
[2016-10-28 11:52:05] uwotmate : auroracoin was the last example where supply started off tiny, and everyone knew exact date when flood of new supply was hitting market
[2016-10-28 11:52:06] zecpumperIseeyou : because it's ridiculous, it doesn't mean people aren't trying to make profit out of it
[2016-10-28 11:52:08] wurstgelee : zec: zero supply at start
[2016-10-28 11:52:11] NW2443 : how do i buy zcash
[2016-10-28 11:52:20] wurstgelee : see the difference? ;)
[2016-10-28 11:52:21] wurstgelee : NW2443: just buy it
[2016-10-28 11:52:35] wurstgelee : Zcash(ZEC) contract, then buy
[2016-10-28 11:52:42] RoftheN : You'll be able to buy zcash in a few hours on lots of excchanges like Poloniex and Kraken, or you can buy contracts here
[2016-10-28 11:52:43] Gemz : ok which market do u think zcash will start at?
[2016-10-28 11:52:47] laisee : 1 ZEC == 1000 BTC? Madnesa of the crowd ...
[2016-10-28 11:52:48] Gemz : marketcap*
[2016-10-28 11:53:03] RoftheN : I think Poloniex will be faster as Kraken, cuz they fuckd up ICN so hard
[2016-10-28 11:53:05] wurstgelee : Gemz: race condition imo
[2016-10-28 11:53:30] btceurope : I think i won't mak any movement until markets open with zec
[2016-10-28 11:53:37] Gemz : the question is will zcash start will a very low marketcap and gradually rise or start with high marketcap and dump hard
[2016-10-28 11:53:39] uwotmate : auroracoin went up to 1000x the price it should be, just because people wanted to play a pump
[2016-10-28 11:54:20] uwotmate : so I think we will see ZEC at 1000x to 2000x what the price will be a few months from now
[2016-10-28 11:54:46] uwotmate : just because people want to play a pump, doesn't have to make sense
[2016-10-28 11:54:48] rasdasd : lol only retards can pay 1 btc for this hist
[2016-10-28 11:54:59] RoftheN : Xcash obviously will start with a low marketcap, because 83 coins just isn't enough to get a reasonable marketcap
[2016-10-28 11:55:07] uwotmate : are you a retard if you pay 50 BTC for 1 ZEC then sell for 100 BTC ?
[2016-10-28 11:55:07] rasdasd : shit
[2016-10-28 11:55:32] uwotmate : it doesn't have to make long-term sense, just a short term pump to 1000 BTC/ZEC
[2016-10-28 11:55:37] RoftheN : uwotmate, 1000x is nothing if aurora coin is worth less than 1 cent. But 1000x is a lot if a coin is worth almost a bitcoin
[2016-10-28 11:55:38] Gemz : why would u pay 100 btc for a zec if u know a week later the price will be much less than that
[2016-10-28 11:55:58] uwotmate : because you think you can flip it for 150 BTC or 200 BTC
[2016-10-28 11:56:04] uwotmate : during the pump
[2016-10-28 11:56:07] wurstgelee : Gemz: because u expect it to be 120 btc a little later
[2016-10-28 11:56:10] Gemz : that just panic buying, u gonna get rekt
[2016-10-28 11:56:17] RoftheN : And also if you're a big miner and want to drive up the price
[2016-10-28 11:56:33] wurstgelee : u dont have to agree with fomo....your job is to act on it ;)
[2016-10-28 11:56:39] uwotmate : only the last guy who buys at the top gets rekt, lots of people will profit buying ZEC at over 100 BTC
[2016-10-28 11:57:27] Sidwick : whales selling to lower before pumping it up to 1.75
[2016-10-28 11:57:31] Gemz : i say this: zec price will trade under 1 btc with low marketcap and its marketcap will gradually rise over time to top 5
[2016-10-28 11:58:01] rapidtrades : so limits are off in 3 mins or what
[2016-10-28 11:58:23] btceurope : So when its good to buy in the first reboot from min price?
[2016-10-28 11:58:25] Gemz : uwotmate: so where do u buy, at bitmex or u wait to buy at polo
[2016-10-28 11:58:26] Sidwick : are limits off or is it 50% increase?
[2016-10-28 11:58:43] Sidwick : uwo, you go to uwo?
[2016-10-28 11:59:18] Gemz : i think price gonna dump to 0.2
[2016-10-28 11:59:38] uwotmate : I'm buying at both bitmex and polo
[2016-10-28 11:59:39] kay : Gemz: that will be great for trading
[2016-10-28 11:59:47] Gemz : even that makes it still $140 per sec
[2016-10-28 12:00:14] rx84 : .aaaand, the limits are off
[2016-10-28 12:00:21] Sidwick : OPEN SEASON
[2016-10-28 12:00:33] rasdasd : lol lets see what happens
[2016-10-28 12:00:34] uwotmate : panic buy!
[2016-10-28 12:00:36] kay : no one knows the amount of liquidity out there anything can happen in crypto world
[2016-10-28 12:00:41] Gemz : u can already buy to 1.17 btc
[2016-10-28 12:00:46] NW2443 : how long does it take to have wallet balance after deposit from btc wallet
[2016-10-28 12:01:06] chromaticcr1 : time for market manipulation!
[2016-10-28 12:01:12] NW2443 : ?
[2016-10-28 12:01:49] aethlios : above 10 says invalid price
[2016-10-28 12:02:06] kumarz : mannn I wish I bought some @ the latest 0.7 dip (ZEC)
[2016-10-28 12:02:24] chromaticcr1 : wow
[2016-10-28 12:02:24] chromaticcr1 : gonna move it move it
[2016-10-28 12:02:44] rasdasd : lol maybe we hit 2 btc?
[2016-10-28 12:02:45] kay : aethlios: no matter the price trade the crypto.
[2016-10-28 12:02:50] martinium : Wow 0.87......
[2016-10-28 12:03:09] kay : in cryptos price cannot be justified for any currency
[2016-10-28 12:05:35] uwotmate : 10k BTC per ZEC soon on polo
[2016-10-28 12:05:36] sleger : site broken ?
[2016-10-28 12:05:43] RoftheN : Oh ZEC even comes to Bitfinex
[2016-10-28 12:05:46] uwotmate : buy buy buy
[2016-10-28 12:05:48] RoftheN : 10k woudln't surprise me now
[2016-10-28 12:06:02] chromaticcr1 : this is the new 42Coin
[2016-10-28 12:06:16] RoftheN : Oh I remember 42coin
[2016-10-28 12:06:18] RoftheN : I mined it
[2016-10-28 12:06:23] Kalman : sleger: somehow laggy
[2016-10-28 12:06:31] RoftheN : 500$ with one GPU in one day
[2016-10-28 12:06:33] wurstgelee : sleger: they are dealing with it
[2016-10-28 12:06:37] fsec : when is trading on polo going to start?
[2016-10-28 12:06:38] Kalman : 1400 users
[2016-10-28 12:06:39] chromaticcr1 : no one knows if the supply is altered -> we have answer for the life and universe -> the supply of ZEC = 42
[2016-10-28 12:06:43] wurstgelee : no clue if ddos issue or something else, they wont tell
[2016-10-28 12:06:58] wurstgelee : fsec: today
[2016-10-28 12:07:07] sleger : site broken couldnt place an order for 2 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:07:07] sleger : right after settlement on friday nice job
[2016-10-28 12:07:08] sleger : looks like 1000 users meant the end of bitmex
[2016-10-28 12:07:10] RoftheN : 53 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:07:27] Kalman : sleger: hope not
[2016-10-28 12:09:07] rasdasd : that buy wall for zec
[2016-10-28 12:09:11] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/Crypto_God/status/791974443727855616
[2016-10-28 12:09:14] wurstgelee : holy f....
[2016-10-28 12:09:17] fsec : 50 ZEC BUY :O
[2016-10-28 12:09:23] wurstgelee : and it isnt even live :)
[2016-10-28 12:09:24] justinlooking : idiotic US date format on Eth Swap label
[2016-10-28 12:09:37] rasdasd : in my last 3 years in crypto I cant remember of a bigger hype that this lol
[2016-10-28 12:09:49] rapidtrades : i'm getting more disconnects today
[2016-10-28 12:09:53] wurstgelee : rasdasd: that ;)
[2016-10-28 12:09:58] RoftheN : What about Ethereum?
[2016-10-28 12:10:08] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: right now its great for me, was shitty minutes earlier. not stable :|
[2016-10-28 12:10:09] chromaticcr1 : fsec: make it a market order
[2016-10-28 12:10:14] uwotmate : biggest buy wall bitmex has ever seen
[2016-10-28 12:10:24] rasdasd : yep its close..but look at miners who are ready to mine zcash...its insane
[2016-10-28 12:10:29] wurstgelee : uwotmate: surely not ;)
[2016-10-28 12:10:38] rapidtrades : i see no wall
[2016-10-28 12:10:40] fsec : is there a way to check the whole order book?
[2016-10-28 12:10:45] justinlooking : uwotmate: u mean apart from the 150 on the limit up bid last night?
[2016-10-28 12:10:52] wurstgelee : fsec: click expand button on top right
[2016-10-28 12:10:55] chromaticcr1 : there will be plenty of DPE happen
[2016-10-28 12:10:58] rapidtrades : chat is slow as f*ck btw
[2016-10-28 12:11:18] Gemz : zec gonna dump hard at the start then go up
[2016-10-28 12:11:20] wurstgelee : chromaticcr1: no. DPE is dead
[2016-10-28 12:11:24] wurstgelee : its ADL now
[2016-10-28 12:11:24] aethlios : started mining?? nicehas is mining
[2016-10-28 12:11:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 12:11:48] aethlios : https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=orders&a=24
[2016-10-28 12:11:48] chromaticcr1 : delay is like a minute or so
[2016-10-28 12:11:49] rasdasd : aethlios: its a testnet
[2016-10-28 12:11:58] rasdasd : in 50mins it will be live
[2016-10-28 12:12:08] chromaticcr1 : wurstgelee: thanks for fixed. got used to the old crap
[2016-10-28 12:12:17] uwotmate : I'm buying big before this takes off
[2016-10-28 12:12:36] chromaticcr1 : kinda like it this way now
[2016-10-28 12:12:38] uwotmate : nobody's going to dump into those buy orders
[2016-10-28 12:12:42] RoftheN : aethlios I want to hire hashrate, how?
[2016-10-28 12:12:43] Gemz : rasdasd: what will be live?
[2016-10-28 12:12:55] rasdasd : Gemz: mining
[2016-10-28 12:12:57] fsec : Someone is trying to scoop up all of the cheap coins. This pump is going to be huuuge
[2016-10-28 12:13:06] Gemz : uwotmate: dude stop tricking people to buy
[2016-10-28 12:13:25] RoftheN : ZEC will be live in 47 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:13:40] kay : RoftheN: any link
[2016-10-28 12:13:43] RoftheN : But in cryptoworld there's always a delay
[2016-10-28 12:14:01] aethlios : better buy monero and short zcash to fund free monero buy.
[2016-10-28 12:14:50] Mm bot : How long until Bitmex removes Z price limits
[2016-10-28 12:15:09] uwotmate : this is going above 2.0 for sure
[2016-10-28 12:15:09] justinlooking : thye already have
[2016-10-28 12:15:30] aethlios : do they have a block explorer?
[2016-10-28 12:15:35] justinlooking : uwotmate: u r tetsuo?!
[2016-10-28 12:15:40] RoftheN : Dont have a link, but everyone in Zcash slack says it will be 13:00 UTC
[2016-10-28 12:16:22] fsec : yep easy 2.0, there was no point in pumping with the price limits. Now the party is going to start
[2016-10-28 12:16:23] Gemz : zec gonna dump hard under 0.1 then go up, watch
[2016-10-28 12:16:33] aethlios : so 45 minutes to wait
[2016-10-28 12:16:35] RoftheN : Gemz? today?
[2016-10-28 12:16:46] habibi : Gemz: my bids are waiting :)
[2016-10-28 12:16:49] uwotmate : no way, this is gonna pump
[2016-10-28 12:16:53] RoftheN : 44 minutes if there won't be a delay. But I don't remember any cryptocurrency without a delay
[2016-10-28 12:17:19] RoftheN : who would sell 1 of 83 for less than 0.5 btc lol
[2016-10-28 12:17:43] kay : here the volume is 1200 btc- watch out for polo definitely there will be 3000 btc waiting on the open for zec.
[2016-10-28 12:17:46] BitMEX_Jinming : Mm bot: there is no price limits on ZECZ16 now.
[2016-10-28 12:20:29] uwotmate : how long do BTC deposits take to show up? I deposited 10 BTC and it has 1 confirmation, but it's not showing in my account
[2016-10-28 12:20:49] Gemz : miner will be selling zec if price is anything more than $150, which is around 0.2
[2016-10-28 12:21:42] rasdasd : Gemz: they are not stupid..why would they sell it at that price when supply is low..at least for first 7 days
[2016-10-28 12:22:04] rasdasd : Gemz: but you are right about mining cost
[2016-10-28 12:22:29] habibi : keep dreaming about less thab 2 btc price at first day of spot trading
[2016-10-28 12:23:03] rasdasd : habibi: loops is that you
[2016-10-28 12:23:08] Gemz : miners know the price will be much less than what it is now, they gonna take their profits, also they have to pay their expenses
[2016-10-28 12:23:10] kay : Gemz: .2 is so cheap... surprise waiting for miners.zec miners are very lucky.
[2016-10-28 12:23:19] aethlios : bulls are you pumping above 1 or not, shorts waiting for you to attack.
[2016-10-28 12:23:35] BitMEX_Jinming : uwotmate: it should be a few minute after 1 confirmation.
[2016-10-28 12:24:18] rapidtrades : looks like zec party is OVER
[2016-10-28 12:25:05] fsec : watch for the next big buy, it's accumulation
[2016-10-28 12:25:19] kryptopojken : top accumulation :D
[2016-10-28 12:26:20] wurstgelee : it hasnt even launched. yet rapidtrades is already planning his funeral speech ;)
[2016-10-28 12:26:56] rapidtrades : it's been launched for months
[2016-10-28 12:27:28] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-28 12:27:32] rapidtrades : bubble gone pop
[2016-10-28 12:27:32] wurstgelee : oh? when was the genisis block mined again?
[2016-10-28 12:27:32] rapidtrades : still not shorting it....yet :)
[2016-10-28 12:27:33] wurstgelee : i cant recall... oO
[2016-10-28 12:29:11] RocketScience : is my wifi bad or does bitmex lag?
[2016-10-28 12:29:30] wurstgelee : wuhahaha
[2016-10-28 12:29:30] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-28 12:29:35] rasdasd : rekt
[2016-10-28 12:29:37] wurstgelee : bitmex is lagging af
[2016-10-28 12:29:45] Gemz : there we go
[2016-10-28 12:29:50] rasdasd : margin calls are really if you used leverage
[2016-10-28 12:29:55] RoftheN : Both
[2016-10-28 12:30:04] wurstgelee : aaand back up oO
[2016-10-28 12:30:04] zecpumperIseeyou : holy shit
[2016-10-28 12:30:04] zecpumperIseeyou : the volatility is crazy
[2016-10-28 12:30:05] maker101 : I wouldn't short it yet. Still worth half a million
[2016-10-28 12:30:09] uwotmate : buy the rumor, sell the news, mofos!
[2016-10-28 12:30:15] RoftheN : WOw
[2016-10-28 12:30:15] RoftheN : big difference
[2016-10-28 12:30:16] chromaticcr1 : i like how people use market order
[2016-10-28 12:30:18] Gemz : take profits while u can
[2016-10-28 12:31:09] Gemz : its gonna go below 0.1
[2016-10-28 12:31:32] RoftheN : Damn I wish I had a lower buyorder in there
[2016-10-28 12:32:12] frosas : That was weird
[2016-10-28 12:32:19] mjones : Lol dumping
[2016-10-28 12:32:56] maker101 : Market still well over half a billion. Hhahah
[2016-10-28 12:33:06] wurstgelee : this was nothing yet. wait until its actually listed at some spot exchange
[2016-10-28 12:33:09] habibi : maker can u show me the math please :)?
[2016-10-28 12:33:30] Gemz : maker101: what u mean half billion
[2016-10-28 12:33:40] maker101 : habibi: Sold my short at 0.55
[2016-10-28 12:33:45] wurstgelee : habibi: dont ask. he will tell u something with total coincapxbitmex price
[2016-10-28 12:33:50] maker101 : started out at 1.15 lol
[2016-10-28 12:34:18] maker101 : still got some left at 0.2 and 0.1
[2016-10-28 12:34:34] rasdasd : this chart looks like bitcoin at late 2013
[2016-10-28 12:34:36] RoftheN : Oh did it even go that high?
[2016-10-28 12:34:36] RoftheN : but after poloniex it will go up
[2016-10-28 12:34:47] wurstgelee : maker101: your "half a billion market cap"-amth...
[2016-10-28 12:35:01] Gemz : zec still at $470 each, way too overpriced
[2016-10-28 12:35:09] habibi : :D
[2016-10-28 12:35:28] habibi : one thing is really bad for bitmex, there will be so many crying kids here asking for refund soon
[2016-10-28 12:35:48] maker101 : RoftheN: It will go down. People on Polo think Bitmex is stupid prices
[2016-10-28 12:35:59] Gemz : zec is still in experimental mode and not proven any how to work well, buying at these prices is plain retarded
[2016-10-28 12:36:25] maker101 : crying that you think this scam coin is worth 700 million plus lol
[2016-10-28 12:36:33] RoftheN : maker, there won't be anyone to push it down
[2016-10-28 12:36:42] chromaticcr1 : seemingly you can place bid on finex nmow
[2016-10-28 12:36:42] zecpumperIseeyou : Everyone think it is stupid price
[2016-10-28 12:36:57] zecpumperIseeyou : but still, everyone wants his zec, and there will be 104 today
[2016-10-28 12:37:31] maker101 : I don't want an Zec thanks
[2016-10-28 12:37:38] Gemz : buit tommorrow there will be 400
[2016-10-28 12:40:29] maker101 : Gemz: Tomorrow there will be 0.1 lol
[2016-10-28 12:40:52] justinlooking : wow such lag. r u polo in disguise
[2016-10-28 12:40:55] rapidtrades : maker101: did u get out?
[2016-10-28 12:41:27] maker101 : I sold some. Selling the rest at 0.2. might take a few days to reach 200m
[2016-10-28 12:43:19] rapidtrades : really disappointing having a lag with 2000 users
[2016-10-28 12:43:47] uwotmate : probably thousands more pinging the site who aren't registered
[2016-10-28 12:44:00] rapidtrades : after discussing how great the trading engine is few days ago
[2016-10-28 12:44:32] Boontjie : I am guessing ZEC launch happened
[2016-10-28 12:44:32] Boontjie : lel
[2016-10-28 12:47:05] kay : Boontjie: bfx opened it
[2016-10-28 12:48:18] sleger : rapidtrades: 2000? i see 1400
[2016-10-28 12:48:24] rapidtrades : wait...no more tokens here?
[2016-10-28 12:49:06] rapidtrades : sleger: i was rounding up, bots included
[2016-10-28 12:49:19] RoftheN : 11 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:49:20] sleger : are bots nor counted in users ?
[2016-10-28 12:49:31] otg : 哈喽
[2016-10-28 12:49:40] chromaticcr1 : 你好啊～
[2016-10-28 12:49:42] rapidtrades : sleger: i don't think so?
[2016-10-28 12:49:54] mjones : china is hyped about zcash. moon
[2016-10-28 12:50:14] otg : hi
[2016-10-28 12:50:16] chromaticcr1 : 亲你加了Q群吗？那边多一点说中文的
[2016-10-28 12:51:34] martinium : zcash is first crypto that expands on the good things bitcoin brought to the table.
[2016-10-28 12:51:47] martinium : it can and will be a good secondary cryptocurrency
[2016-10-28 12:51:51] justinlooking : sleger/rapid good stability here when proxy via EC2 eu-west jump box
[2016-10-28 12:51:58] otg : zcash 在少平群里
[2016-10-28 12:52:01] mjones : view archive needs to go back further
[2016-10-28 12:52:13] maker101 : martinium: best one to short so far
[2016-10-28 12:52:24] rapidtrades : martinum plz
[2016-10-28 12:52:26] martinium : maker101: most definitely. I am waiting
[2016-10-28 12:52:33] rasdasd : 7 mins left
[2016-10-28 12:52:40] rasdasd : short or long
[2016-10-28 12:52:42] sally : guys are there any trading gurus here?
[2016-10-28 12:53:04] sally : what happens if polo trades Zcash at 100btc? What happens here?
[2016-10-28 12:53:06] martinium : sally: define trading guru
[2016-10-28 12:53:15] uwotmate : price here is still trading on dec. 30 expiration date, poloniex shouldn't have any effect on it
[2016-10-28 12:53:26] RoftheN : pls short my 0.64 zec order
[2016-10-28 12:53:27] sally : martinium: to be smart enough to answer that question about 100 btc
[2016-10-28 12:53:30] chromaticcr1 : I am expecting a disappointment on launch time
[2016-10-28 12:53:32] uwotmate : supply at dec 30 will be around 300k ZEC
[2016-10-28 12:53:33] rapidtrades : has bitmex decided on exchange yet?
[2016-10-28 12:53:34] rapidtrades : it will be polo right? has to be polo
[2016-10-28 12:53:38] aethlios : bids started at bitfinex
[2016-10-28 12:53:42] martinium : sally: then the price here might match it when they decide it is safe to do so and a price like that holds which is doubtful
[2016-10-28 12:53:48] rapidtrades : f*ck finex @aethlios
[2016-10-28 12:53:49] maker101 : sally: markets tend to even out due to opportunities from indifference's
[2016-10-28 12:53:51] rasdasd : yeps its gonna dump on start for sure
[2016-10-28 12:53:52] RoftheN : uwotmate, but people will look at spot price, not at december
[2016-10-28 12:53:55] uwotmate : no, price here follows dec. 30 price
[2016-10-28 12:54:01] rapidtrades : also where are tokens here
[2016-10-28 12:54:06] mjones : i'm refreshing polo and bittrex
[2016-10-28 12:54:19] RoftheN : There's not one to dump. I'm a small miner and I will not dump my 0.001 ZEC that I might mine today for any less than 1btc/ZEC
[2016-10-28 12:54:33] sally : I think it will be over 5 btc stable for over a week
[2016-10-28 12:54:39] maker101 : RoftheN: You will die a poor man then lol
[2016-10-28 12:54:58] sally : everyone will buy it up to 100btc on polo easily
[2016-10-28 12:55:01] uwotmate : price here is assuming supply of 300k ZEC when contract expires on dec. 30
[2016-10-28 12:55:05] RoftheN : There's a lot of potential buyers on all these exchanges, and only a few selelrs
[2016-10-28 12:55:23] sally : so many buyers its scary...
[2016-10-28 12:55:44] martinium : sally: doubtful because many people will take profits preventing such a stupid rise
[2016-10-28 12:55:46] maker101 : and who would buy into a falling stock? Everyone wants to short it
[2016-10-28 12:55:49] Kalman : no trade 4 10 min
[2016-10-28 12:55:56] rasdasd : so many buyers aka sheeps that are gonna get rekt
[2016-10-28 12:56:04] RoftheN : 4 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:56:09] sally : martinium: but there is not enough coins. the distribution of a block crazy too
[2016-10-28 12:56:22] jm : drop starting
[2016-10-28 12:56:29] aethlios : miners think they will profit......
[2016-10-28 12:56:32] martinium : price will remain high for a period
[2016-10-28 12:56:44] RoftheN : The block distribution is genius from 0 to 12.5, following bitcoins 21 million with halving every 4 years
[2016-10-28 12:56:50] aethlios : best long term short is zcash
[2016-10-28 12:56:55] RoftheN : Only the miners and founders will profit, new investors wont
[2016-10-28 12:57:01] aethlios : will bottom in 2 years
[2016-10-28 12:57:20] aethlios : short each bounch
[2016-10-28 12:57:33] chromaticcr1 : until you dont have margin and get called
[2016-10-28 12:57:38] RoftheN : Maker
[2016-10-28 12:57:39] RoftheN : can you please
[2016-10-28 12:57:46] RoftheN : take my 0.64 buyorder
[2016-10-28 12:58:02] RoftheN : I beg of you
[2016-10-28 12:58:06] ytaews : if you want to buy just cross
[2016-10-28 12:58:43] RoftheN : 2 minutes until 13 UTC
[2016-10-28 12:58:46] Kalman : RoftheN: pay up
[2016-10-28 12:58:47] uwotmate : please take my 0.7 sell order, I beg of you
[2016-10-28 12:59:03] y1uy : what is realised PNL?
[2016-10-28 12:59:04] sally : bring on on 10btc ZEC
[2016-10-28 12:59:12] aethlios : like the big bang, the moment zcash was born
[2016-10-28 12:59:19] jm : hahahah there is no way that ZEC will be worth anywhere close to BTC
[2016-10-28 12:59:22] maker101 : RoftheN: I would but I am trying to buy myself to close my short?
[2016-10-28 12:59:38] Gemz : where do yall see zcash marketcap in the first 2 days
[2016-10-28 12:59:50] maker101 : I am buying around 0.2
[2016-10-28 12:59:52] jm : 100M max
[2016-10-28 13:00:14] martinium : y1uy: realized pnl is when you realize your trades profits or losses and also funding rate rebalances every 8 hours if you are trading the xbtusd swap
[2016-10-28 13:00:16] jm : Then some academic will find a flaw in the alpha code
[2016-10-28 13:00:25] rasdasd : it should be called zcrash
[2016-10-28 13:00:36] jm : rasdasd: lol
[2016-10-28 13:00:43] chromaticcr1 : time for disappointment
[2016-10-28 13:00:46] aethlios : started??
[2016-10-28 13:00:50] eth2mars : rasdasd: funny ;)
[2016-10-28 13:01:04] RoftheN : Marketcap won't even be in the top 100 on coinmarketcap
[2016-10-28 13:01:12] eth2mars : rasdasd: i should change my nick to eth2fork
[2016-10-28 13:01:31] chromaticcr1 : eth2mars: eth2urAnus
[2016-10-28 13:01:35] rasdasd : eth2mars: you should have done that long time ago
[2016-10-28 13:01:37] jm : Auroracoin 2.0
[2016-10-28 13:01:58] eth2mars : rasdasd: don't know how to change it
[2016-10-28 13:02:02] jung1 : ZEC WTF
[2016-10-28 13:02:05] laisee : Zcash dumping to 0.0088889?
[2016-10-28 13:02:14] jm : laisee: where?
[2016-10-28 13:02:16] rasdasd : eth2mars: me neither lol
[2016-10-28 13:02:18] noldi : laisee: where?
[2016-10-28 13:02:19] chromaticcr1 : there arent even supply yet
[2016-10-28 13:02:29] jung1 : hly shit
[2016-10-28 13:02:33] RoftheN : Even BTC-e is lsting it
[2016-10-28 13:02:36] Gemz : its the futures market
[2016-10-28 13:02:52] Gemz : traders think zec will be at 0.7 dec 30th
[2016-10-28 13:02:54] jung1 : what if they collect those 3mil from investors to pump it now?
[2016-10-28 13:03:23] jm : $3M can't pump sustained over 10B lol
[2016-10-28 13:03:37] laisee : on the streets .. Peoplw qre panicking ????
[2016-10-28 13:03:39] rasdasd : its good to short it now without leverage
[2016-10-28 13:03:46] jung1 : well but could push the price
[2016-10-28 13:03:51] aethlios : mining started?? do they have blockexplorer?
[2016-10-28 13:04:14] RoftheN : sigh whatever,I'll just take the 71
[2016-10-28 13:04:31] mjones : i thought a few coins were suppose to go from 10x to 20x like xmr?