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[2016-10-28 09:20:26] wurstgelee : zcash will be big in darknet in no time
[2016-10-28 09:20:40] wurstgelee : and thats a huge market alone...
[2016-10-28 09:20:41] maker101 : wurstgelee: and hacked by the darknets again and again
[2016-10-28 09:20:49] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-10-28 09:20:54] maker101 : plenty of decentralysed marketplacces using BTC
[2016-10-28 09:21:01] RoftheN : I think there's a big competition going on for what will be the next bitcoin, and Ethereum did well until the DAO shit happened and now has no chance. Zcash has some chance, but maybe an even better one will be created next year, without the 10% of all supply goes to devs/investors
[2016-10-28 09:21:04] noldi : wurstgelee: no point in shorting now?
[2016-10-28 09:21:18] maker101 : Monero crash = another anonymous darknet run away with the cash
[2016-10-28 09:21:24] maker101 : Bullshit
[2016-10-28 09:21:29] wurstgelee : RoftheN: eth has a different purpose. primary purpose isnt being a currency
[2016-10-28 09:21:44] RoftheN : I know, ETH still has a promising future, but it won't be the next bitcoin
[2016-10-28 09:22:14] maker101 : RoftheN: why do we need a next bitcoin when the current one is being used world wide and has plans like the lightning network bolted onto it
[2016-10-28 09:22:48] maker101 : Can't imagine you localZcash can you?
[2016-10-28 09:22:54] maker101 : Localbitcoins :)
[2016-10-28 09:22:54] RoftheN : We don't need one, but I think it's inevitable. People have been trying to make a better one and one day one will be soooo good that it will overtake it
[2016-10-28 09:23:21] maker101 : Current one is just fine and will be upgraded to suffice
[2016-10-28 09:23:29] RoftheN : But Zcash has a higher chance of being outlawed in many countries
[2016-10-28 09:23:56] noldi : wurstgelee: no point in shorting now no matter what margin u have? how comes
[2016-10-28 09:23:58] maker101 : Zcash is an over hyped shit choin
[2016-10-28 09:24:23] maker101 : Darkcoin and Shadowcoin have better anonymous tech
[2016-10-28 09:24:28] wurstgelee : noldi: because shorters will get a better entry later
[2016-10-28 09:24:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 09:24:59] maker101 : mark my words, will be lucky to be worth 0.1 BTC in 4 weeks
[2016-10-28 09:25:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20 @ 684.02
[2016-10-28 09:26:06] maker101 : 0.1 is still 100million hahah ridiculous
[2016-10-28 09:27:29] RoftheN : Maker101 I totally agree
[2016-10-28 09:27:29] RoftheN : but today
[2016-10-28 09:27:30] RoftheN : It will be worth more than bitcoin
[2016-10-28 09:27:40] RoftheN : simply because of low supply
[2016-10-28 09:27:56] maker101 : That boost we just had was a one off high that will never happen again
[2016-10-28 09:28:11] maker101 : madness prevails.
[2016-10-28 09:28:30] RoftheN : It will happen only today
[2016-10-28 09:28:33] maker101 : A coin worth 12 billion before launch? madness no?
[2016-10-28 09:28:44] RoftheN : It's not worth 12 billion
[2016-10-28 09:28:48] RoftheN : The supply isn't 21 million
[2016-10-28 09:28:52] RoftheN : The supply will be 83 on the first day
[2016-10-28 09:28:53] maker101 : I understand the logistics
[2016-10-28 09:29:13] maker101 : But why would you pay more than bitcoin for a coin that does absolutely nothing
[2016-10-28 09:29:14] RoftheN : Either way, if you're informed it's an easy way to make money
[2016-10-28 09:29:18] RoftheN : Long now, short tomorrow
[2016-10-28 09:29:28] maker101 : This is just crazyness
[2016-10-28 09:29:28] RoftheN : Because people will pump it up
[2016-10-28 09:29:30] RoftheN : and I want to make money
[2016-10-28 09:29:40] maker101 : You hope there are stupid people on polo
[2016-10-28 09:29:49] RoftheN : There's plenty of stupid people on polo
[2016-10-28 09:29:58] maker101 : if they are smarter and won't trade more than 0.05? :P
[2016-10-28 09:30:04] RoftheN : But they're not smarter
[2016-10-28 09:30:10] RoftheN : They're greedy people that want to make money
[2016-10-28 09:30:20] maker101 : This little bitmex hype zone is going to end
[2016-10-28 09:30:56] btceurope : what time zcash will be in polo and kraken?
[2016-10-28 09:31:08] RoftheN : around 13 UTC I
[2016-10-28 09:31:11] RoftheN : maybe slightly later
[2016-10-28 09:31:15] btceurope : ok thanks
[2016-10-28 09:31:36] RoftheN : and it's now 9:30 UTC
[2016-10-28 09:32:49] RoftheN : Why can't we buy less than 1 ZEC token?
[2016-10-28 09:33:32] miramm1115 : it's done to make sure all zec ends up in whales' pockets
[2016-10-28 09:33:45] maker101 : RoftheN: This stupidity is for high rolling losers only
[2016-10-28 09:34:04] maker101 : When it drops to 0.01 BTC you can trade it like the rest of the tokens
[2016-10-28 09:34:13] aethlios : https://s3.amazonaws.com/tradingview/snapshots/e/eBlNK2FC.png
[2016-10-28 09:34:28] aethlios : monero bottomed, mfi daily double bottom
[2016-10-28 09:34:56] RoftheN : You really think monero will pump when a better alternative is going to launch today?
[2016-10-28 09:35:22] btceurope : monero will go down like all these last days
[2016-10-28 09:35:38] btceurope : I see them yesterday at 0.092
[2016-10-28 09:35:50] btceurope : I sold them yesterday
[2016-10-28 09:36:28] btceurope : I bought yesterday 2 contracts of zcash a t 0.52 we will see what happens I want sell at 1.15
[2016-10-28 09:37:09] aethlios : RoftheN: from today zcash starts the long journey of a bear market.
[2016-10-28 09:37:41] aethlios : btceurope: reached 1.175
[2016-10-28 09:37:59] miramm1115 : btceurope: 1.15 is way too cheap, place a sell @ 4.5 or so
[2016-10-28 09:38:35] btceurope : I know but thats 1.17 was the max better sell before that max at max can return
[2016-10-28 09:38:40] maker101 : btceurope: sell @ 2500 BTC instead
[2016-10-28 09:38:46] btceurope : hahahaah
[2016-10-28 09:38:54] btceurope : ok 2500 is good hahah
[2016-10-28 09:38:59] maker101 : 1.15 is too cheap try 2500
[2016-10-28 09:39:14] btceurope : i will sell 1.15 anyway
[2016-10-28 09:40:09] btceurope : if im wrong i will buy again later
[2016-10-28 09:42:32] btceurope : 1.15 good price to sell
[2016-10-28 09:42:59] maker101 : There is only one thing we know for certain, it will go up or down :)
[2016-10-28 09:43:33] btceurope : smart comment
[2016-10-28 09:43:35] btceurope : Anothr certain thing is that all of us will die
[2016-10-28 09:43:57] maker101 : btceurope: And pay taxes
[2016-10-28 09:44:08] RoftheN : And entropy
[2016-10-28 09:44:42] jose : false, there are 397 bots here
[2016-10-28 09:45:03] maker101 : and that if you have a daughter....
[2016-10-28 09:46:01] btceurope : taxes depend country and daughter depend she can live in church closed for live
[2016-10-28 09:46:02] btceurope : hahahah
[2016-10-28 09:46:12] wurstgelee : less talking, more selling
[2016-10-28 09:46:22] wurstgelee : thank you
[2016-10-28 09:46:44] btceurope : selling or buying no?
[2016-10-28 09:58:30] maker101 : btceurope: Getting REKT
[2016-10-28 09:59:13] noldi : maker101: sell @2.5 btc?
[2016-10-28 10:00:25] btceurope : No one know what will happens with zec so...
[2016-10-28 10:01:45] wurstgelee : i do. its doomed. please sell
[2016-10-28 10:02:54] btceurope : sell to buy you cheaper right?
[2016-10-28 10:04:44] maker101 : Delusional........
[2016-10-28 10:05:44] maker101 : supply scarcity causing inflation of something that is not intrinsically of value.. Delusional........
[2016-10-28 10:07:02] maker101 : I will drink your milkshake (jokes)
[2016-10-28 10:07:07] uwotmate : zcrash is going down now
[2016-10-28 10:07:40] zecpumperIseeyou : That's funny everyone is expecting it to gi down, but still it stays
[2016-10-28 10:08:05] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-28 10:08:13] wurstgelee : most aren't expecting that
[2016-10-28 10:08:17] wurstgelee : otherwise it would go down
[2016-10-28 10:08:26] wurstgelee : some people stuck in shorts maybe want it to go down
[2016-10-28 10:08:30] wurstgelee : or people with unfilled longs
[2016-10-28 10:08:31] zecpumperIseeyou : In the chat especially
[2016-10-28 10:08:32] wurstgelee : thats all
[2016-10-28 10:08:41] wurstgelee : btw..please sell. its doomed
[2016-10-28 10:08:42] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 10:09:02] uwotmate : I don't have a position open. Objective observer stating that it's crashing very soon
[2016-10-28 10:09:23] uwotmate : if you don't sell now, big whale is going to dump 100+ and wreck it down to 0.3
[2016-10-28 10:09:31] wurstgelee : uwotmate: who is that "objective observer"?
[2016-10-28 10:10:21] btceurope : why a big whale can't go buy 100 and only sell?
[2016-10-28 10:10:22] wurstgelee : limits...
[2016-10-28 10:10:32] wurstgelee : btceurope: why would someone do that?
[2016-10-28 10:10:32] wurstgelee : uwotmate: it cant go to .3....theoretically impossible
[2016-10-28 10:10:38] uwotmate : I'm the objective observer, recommending to sell now if you don't want to get wrecked down to 0.3 within the half hour
[2016-10-28 10:10:45] btceurope : why not?
[2016-10-28 10:10:50] wurstgelee : with almost no supply?
[2016-10-28 10:10:54] wurstgelee : thats a recipe for rekt...
[2016-10-28 10:11:01] wurstgelee : being stuck in a huge shor when it goes live at all big exchanges today?
[2016-10-28 10:11:45] wurstgelee : oh damn. my bad. eveyrthing is doomed
[2016-10-28 10:11:46] wurstgelee : please sell
[2016-10-28 10:11:59] btceurope : but where they are placing this shorts orders?
[2016-10-28 10:12:03] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 10:12:21] wurstgelee : btceurope: above .9 currently
[2016-10-28 10:13:14] btceurope : in the order book appears low volume of selling in this range
[2016-10-28 10:13:20] uwotmate : soon to be rekt
[2016-10-28 10:13:36] uwotmate : bitmex having trouble handling the load from everyone waiting to sell
[2016-10-28 10:14:00] laisee : @rektbitmex on twitter to follow rekkage(liquidations) at Bitmex
[2016-10-28 10:14:11] uwotmate : imagine ddos and you are helpless to exit while it reks down to 0.1 after limit is removed
[2016-10-28 10:15:46] wurstgelee : uwotmate: go on, short then
[2016-10-28 10:15:50] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 10:18:17] chromaticcr1 : *ZCrash* won't happen soon :shipit:
[2016-10-28 10:19:12] habibi : Uwotmate i have bids down there to rekt that brave shorter if there will be any
[2016-10-28 10:20:16] wurstgelee : habibi: noooooo. u dont....shut up :)
[2016-10-28 10:20:55] btceurope : I guess that all of you that know that are in shorts and all of you are rich or will be rich soon right?
[2016-10-28 10:21:12] wurstgelee : i am long
[2016-10-28 10:21:13] btceurope : rich people don't lose time in chats
[2016-10-28 10:21:22] wurstgelee : a have been long on zcash for a month
[2016-10-28 10:21:29] wurstgelee : doesnt get longer than that ;)
[2016-10-28 10:21:48] btceurope : good deal
[2016-10-28 10:21:55] wurstgelee : also noone ever said he is rich in here iirc
[2016-10-28 10:22:05] wurstgelee : rich is relative anyways...
[2016-10-28 10:24:01] btceurope : yes im rich spiritually
[2016-10-28 10:35:42] rasdasd : one question..I have never used leverage..if I trade ZEC with cross margin option, does it mean I cant get liquidated?
[2016-10-28 10:36:05] wurstgelee : rasdasd: u can. cross means urentire balance will be used at leverage
[2016-10-28 10:36:18] wurstgelee : as margin
[2016-10-28 10:36:22] rasdasd : okay, I how can I trade without leverage?
[2016-10-28 10:36:29] wurstgelee : 1x
[2016-10-28 10:36:33] rasdasd : okay thanks man
[2016-10-28 10:36:38] wurstgelee : np
[2016-10-28 10:37:07] wurstgelee : you still will have a margin call price, but that should be really, really low...
[2016-10-28 10:37:29] wurstgelee : *liquidation price
[2016-10-28 10:39:37] rasdasd : yep just check it..all good
[2016-10-28 10:41:08] AudibleScience : why is it taking 20 seconds to get an order in the book!
[2016-10-28 10:41:48] dasdfasdf : the lag is real
[2016-10-28 10:42:06] dasdfasdf : 3x as many users as usual
[2016-10-28 10:43:09] FreemanIT : https://medium.com/@yobanjo/zcash-founders-will-make-858-922-per-day-without-mining-968b9dc9edee#.keoq5yfqn
[2016-10-28 10:44:02] wurstgelee : AudibleScience: having connection isues 2.... from europe
[2016-10-28 10:44:18] wurstgelee : sending to trollbox lags a few secs sometimes atm
[2016-10-28 10:44:33] wurstgelee : *s
[2016-10-28 10:45:32] mjones : Lag on mobile bad
[2016-10-28 10:45:51] AudibleScience : this sucks!
[2016-10-28 10:46:09] jj123456 : 有讲中文的吗
[2016-10-28 10:46:23] AudibleScience : 29 seconds lag!!
[2016-10-28 10:46:25] BitMEX_Wally : We're looking into it, might be an issue with the load balancer
[2016-10-28 10:46:27] wurstgelee : admins? experiencing high load?
[2016-10-28 10:46:31] wurstgelee : ah thanks :)
[2016-10-28 10:46:36] wurstgelee : wow
[2016-10-28 10:46:42] wurstgelee : trollbox nw instantly works
[2016-10-28 10:46:52] wurstgelee : restarted nginx?
[2016-10-28 10:46:53] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 10:46:59] dasdfasdf : once it started working
[2016-10-28 10:47:02] dasdfasdf : it was fast again
[2016-10-28 10:47:07] wurstgelee : fast af again
[2016-10-28 10:48:04] maker101 : wurstgelee: You need this box to feel good about your long position so you can cry to someone as you get REKT
[2016-10-28 10:48:26] wurstgelee : *test*
[2016-10-28 10:48:28] wurstgelee : aaaaaand it lags again
[2016-10-28 10:48:44] maker101 : HEHEHEH
[2016-10-28 10:48:57] AudibleScience : 20 seconds
[2016-10-28 10:49:01] maker101 : Yeah, lagging for me too :)
[2016-10-28 10:49:19] wurstgelee : maker101: lol. yes. thats exactly what i am doing here. all the times in fact. publicly stating my position and cry afterwards ;)
[2016-10-28 10:50:09] maker101 : wurstgelee: :P :P :P
[2016-10-28 10:53:08] AudibleScience : lag down to ~6 seconds for me here.
[2016-10-28 10:53:13] Smartass : BitMEX_Wally: i want to second that at the resetting of limit up/down at 22:00 AND 6:00h it took 3-4 minutes (!!) till the page updated so i was not able to trade, when i could trade limit up was reached again
[2016-10-28 10:54:15] maker101 : They might need to upgrade the web servers
[2016-10-28 10:54:44] Smartass : BitMEX_Wally: I have a decent line and live in Frankfurt am Main (which has one of the central DECIX-Knots of europe) that was quite frustrating lost quite some profit because of that...
[2016-10-28 10:54:48] maker101 : Check for DDOS and turn on enterprise DDOS protection in cloudflare
[2016-10-28 10:55:27] maker101 : I know it's $200 per month but you have 1379 users online :P)
[2016-10-28 10:55:35] AudibleScience : maker101: cloudflare is total crap bro!
[2016-10-28 10:56:11] maker101 : AudibleScience: It's not bro! I'm under attack mode completely mitigates all DDOS attacks bro
[2016-10-28 10:57:32] Apocalyptic : Smartass: trading from ECB offices eh?
[2016-10-28 11:00:41] rasdasd : will be interesting to see price after they release zec
[2016-10-28 11:01:47] maker101 : rasdasd: Will be worth 10,000 bitcoins. Like a bitcoin pizza fs
[2016-10-28 11:02:40] AudibleScience : lag is back to 20 again!
[2016-10-28 11:07:56] maker101 : I will be pointing my small penis mining power towards Zcash once it goes live
[2016-10-28 11:08:01] wurstgelee : Smartass: sitting @ a 200mbit synchronous line atm
[2016-10-28 11:08:02] wurstgelee : and its lagging ~ 20 secs+
[2016-10-28 11:08:07] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: any chances lag will be gone until 12 utc?
[2016-10-28 11:14:31] hh : so slow
[2016-10-28 11:14:53] hh : what's going on? DDos attack?
[2016-10-28 11:15:33] zecpumperIseeyou : I wouldn't be surprised
[2016-10-28 11:15:39] zecpumperIseeyou : be prepare for the big short
[2016-10-28 11:16:18] wurstgelee : test
[2016-10-28 11:16:20] wurstgelee : fast
[2016-10-28 11:16:25] wurstgelee : lightning fast atm
[2016-10-28 11:16:56] zecpumperIseeyou : ok for me too
[2016-10-28 11:17:02] wurstgelee : test2
[2016-10-28 11:17:07] wurstgelee : lagging a little again
[2016-10-28 11:17:12] wurstgelee : still fast
[2016-10-28 11:18:35] anonymous789 : test
[2016-10-28 11:18:56] Kalman : was this 1.175 traded a liquidation in zecz16?
[2016-10-28 11:19:03] wurstgelee : .
[2016-10-28 11:19:03] wurstgelee : AAAND lagging again
[2016-10-28 11:19:26] jose : no it was the hype when limit moved
[2016-10-28 11:19:39] jose : expect it to skyrocket in 40mn
[2016-10-28 11:20:00] Kalman : jose: will do. thx
[2016-10-28 11:20:03] wurstgelee : jose: no limit preventing it to rise atm.
[2016-10-28 11:20:10] wurstgelee : altho launch is projected soon
[2016-10-28 11:20:16] wurstgelee : minutes, not hors
[2016-10-28 11:20:19] wurstgelee : *hours
[2016-10-28 11:28:09] Gemz : what does risk limit 'cross' do?
[2016-10-28 11:29:14] uwotmate : the lag here adds another layer of risk
[2016-10-28 11:29:34] uwotmate : risk on top of risk on top of risk
[2016-10-28 11:30:19] uwotmate : it's like a risk sandwich where every ingredient is risk
[2016-10-28 11:33:12] anonymous789 : do we really think it's going higher than 1:1 zec:btc?
[2016-10-28 11:33:20] wurstgelee : test
[2016-10-28 11:33:45] wurstgelee : admins? any sitrep for us? whats with all that lagging? ;)
[2016-10-28 11:33:58] wurstgelee : anonymous789: some do
[2016-10-28 11:34:16] BitMEX_Wally : We are working on it
[2016-10-28 11:34:45] anonymous789 : crazier pumps have happened in crypto i guess...
[2016-10-28 11:36:02] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: :S
[2016-10-28 11:37:39] wurstgelee : :D :D :D
[2016-10-28 11:40:31] zfan : someone is profittaking, unpatiently
[2016-10-28 11:41:01] btceurope : everybody is short in zec????!!!
[2016-10-28 11:41:13] btceurope : from what price?
[2016-10-28 11:41:49] wurstgelee : dunno. still long ;)
[2016-10-28 11:42:14] sleger : whis price did you buy ?
[2016-10-28 11:42:14] zfan : don't know just saw the open interest going 30 lots down
[2016-10-28 11:42:32] Gemz : down to 0.1
[2016-10-28 11:43:17] btceurope : thinking to go short now
[2016-10-28 11:43:33] wurstgelee : gl
[2016-10-28 11:43:34] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-28 11:43:39] uwotmate : ZEC is about to hit 1000+ BTC on polo
[2016-10-28 11:43:46] uwotmate : if you go short now you will regret it
[2016-10-28 11:43:52] wurstgelee : uwotmate: so u changed stance now? finally long? :p
[2016-10-28 11:44:01] uwotmate : still a long buy at this point
[2016-10-28 11:44:22] btceurope : everybody is changing opinion all time
[2016-10-28 11:44:25] btceurope : hahah
[2016-10-28 11:44:30] Gemz : u longs gonna get rekt
[2016-10-28 11:44:48] uwotmate : you really think this remains below 2.0 while poloniex price hits 1000+ ?
[2016-10-28 11:44:52] btceurope : that's trading aaaha
[2016-10-28 11:45:14] zfan : there will be blood soon
[2016-10-28 11:45:16] Gemz : 1000+ what? usd?
[2016-10-28 11:45:25] RoftheN : But spot price doesn't automatically mean that bitmex will follow
[2016-10-28 11:45:28] uwotmate : no 1000+ BTC
[2016-10-28 11:45:33] wurstgelee : RoftheN: ofc it will
[2016-10-28 11:45:36] wurstgelee : why wouldnt it?
[2016-10-28 11:45:50] Gemz : uwotmate: so u say zec will hit 1000+ btc?
[2016-10-28 11:45:57] RoftheN : Because bitmex people generally are smarter than Poloniex and know in advance that it will be a lot less tomorrow
[2016-10-28 11:45:57] uwotmate : there's only 83 ZEC mined on first day to split between bitfinex, poloniex, and kraken
[2016-10-28 11:46:01] btceurope : where you see that data???
[2016-10-28 11:46:03] rasdasd : glad I shorted zec
[2016-10-28 11:46:10] rasdasd : at 0.9
[2016-10-28 11:46:36] rasdasd : may close it now..or not will see
[2016-10-28 11:46:38] uwotmate : if we assume trade volume on that 83 ZEC supply is at least 5000 BTC on first day, then the price is going to hit 1000+ BTC
[2016-10-28 11:46:42] wurstgelee : @btceurope ZEC reward schedule
[2016-10-28 11:46:51] Gemz : uwotmate: lol u noob?
[2016-10-28 11:46:54] wurstgelee : uwotmate: lol
[2016-10-28 11:46:58] RoftheN : I wanna buy ZEC and sell later today but I don't have much left :(
[2016-10-28 11:47:42] uwotmate : no I've been trading for 5 years
[2016-10-28 11:47:44] RoftheN : It's not going to hit 1000 BTC, maybe 10 BTC, but 1000 is just ridiculous. high volume doesn't automatically mean that there's rich retards pumping paying 1000x too much
[2016-10-28 11:48:41] Gemz : nobody gonna pay couple btc for a zec while a month later there gonna be 100k zec around
[2016-10-28 11:49:04] wurstgelee : well, people selling atm obv believe it wont go up from 0.7 in the short term... ;)
[2016-10-28 11:49:07] zfan : i would do that soon after it becomes the ref price
[2016-10-28 11:49:15] uwotmate : people on poloniex pumped potcoin to 5000+ BTC volume, they don't give a shit to think what supply will be 2 days from now
[2016-10-28 11:49:19] zecpumperIseeyou : Gemz, if you look at the chart here, people are actually buying one zec for 0.7 btc
[2016-10-28 11:49:34] Gemz : zecpumperIseeyou: i said a couple btc
[2016-10-28 11:49:36] RoftheN : Uwotmate, I agree, but not 1000 BTC, that's too high...
[2016-10-28 11:49:37] wurstgelee : uwotmate: volume !=price ffs
[2016-10-28 11:49:44] wurstgelee : u should know that after 5 years of trading ;)
[2016-10-28 11:49:47] btceurope : I closed my positon now i was long since yesterday at 0.52 so i earn something the dilema now is go long or go short??
[2016-10-28 11:49:55] uwotmate : the fact is there will be less than 10 ZEC available on poloniex in the first hours
[2016-10-28 11:49:57] RoftheN : btceurope, go short tomorrow
[2016-10-28 11:49:59] zecpumperIseeyou : Yes but demand on polo will be higher
[2016-10-28 11:50:01] Gemz : im not paying like 3 btc for a zec while i know the price will be much less than that a month later
[2016-10-28 11:50:08] RoftheN : There will be less than 1 ZEC in the first hours
[2016-10-28 11:50:11] chromaticcr1 : Go *short* your pants
[2016-10-28 11:50:13] zecpumperIseeyou : so it's possible
[2016-10-28 11:50:18] wurstgelee : Gemz: u maybe wont. polo fomo can make that happen tehre tho imo ;)
[2016-10-28 11:50:35] RoftheN : Gemz, you don't have to buy 1, you can just buy 0.01 on Poloniex, and if lots of people do that..
[2016-10-28 11:50:40] Gemz : wurstgelee: what if its fomo to the down side lol
[2016-10-28 11:50:44] uwotmate : do you guys remember auroracoin pump? It doesn't have to be rational
[2016-10-28 11:50:48] wurstgelee : Gemz: no
[2016-10-28 11:50:50] wurstgelee : wont happen
[2016-10-28 11:51:02] RoftheN : It's not rational, but it's not going over 100 BTC either
[2016-10-28 11:51:05] wurstgelee : uwotmate: 1000 btc is just....too off
[2016-10-28 11:51:13] btceurope : Last example was augur REP
[2016-10-28 11:51:29] btceurope : go down dramatically
[2016-10-28 11:51:41] Gemz : then why is everyone yelling how ridiculous zecs price is atm?
[2016-10-28 11:51:54] RoftheN : Cuz it's going to be very profitable
[2016-10-28 11:51:59] wurstgelee : btceurope: augur: fully amount of coins supply at once
[2016-10-28 11:52:05] uwotmate : auroracoin was the last example where supply started off tiny, and everyone knew exact date when flood of new supply was hitting market
[2016-10-28 11:52:06] zecpumperIseeyou : because it's ridiculous, it doesn't mean people aren't trying to make profit out of it
[2016-10-28 11:52:08] wurstgelee : zec: zero supply at start
[2016-10-28 11:52:11] NW2443 : how do i buy zcash
[2016-10-28 11:52:20] wurstgelee : see the difference? ;)
[2016-10-28 11:52:21] wurstgelee : NW2443: just buy it
[2016-10-28 11:52:35] wurstgelee : Zcash(ZEC) contract, then buy
[2016-10-28 11:52:42] RoftheN : You'll be able to buy zcash in a few hours on lots of excchanges like Poloniex and Kraken, or you can buy contracts here
[2016-10-28 11:52:43] Gemz : ok which market do u think zcash will start at?
[2016-10-28 11:52:47] laisee : 1 ZEC == 1000 BTC? Madnesa of the crowd ...
[2016-10-28 11:52:48] Gemz : marketcap*
[2016-10-28 11:53:03] RoftheN : I think Poloniex will be faster as Kraken, cuz they fuckd up ICN so hard
[2016-10-28 11:53:05] wurstgelee : Gemz: race condition imo
[2016-10-28 11:53:30] btceurope : I think i won't mak any movement until markets open with zec
[2016-10-28 11:53:37] Gemz : the question is will zcash start will a very low marketcap and gradually rise or start with high marketcap and dump hard
[2016-10-28 11:53:39] uwotmate : auroracoin went up to 1000x the price it should be, just because people wanted to play a pump
[2016-10-28 11:54:20] uwotmate : so I think we will see ZEC at 1000x to 2000x what the price will be a few months from now
[2016-10-28 11:54:46] uwotmate : just because people want to play a pump, doesn't have to make sense
[2016-10-28 11:54:48] rasdasd : lol only retards can pay 1 btc for this hist
[2016-10-28 11:54:59] RoftheN : Xcash obviously will start with a low marketcap, because 83 coins just isn't enough to get a reasonable marketcap
[2016-10-28 11:55:07] uwotmate : are you a retard if you pay 50 BTC for 1 ZEC then sell for 100 BTC ?
[2016-10-28 11:55:07] rasdasd : shit
[2016-10-28 11:55:32] uwotmate : it doesn't have to make long-term sense, just a short term pump to 1000 BTC/ZEC
[2016-10-28 11:55:37] RoftheN : uwotmate, 1000x is nothing if aurora coin is worth less than 1 cent. But 1000x is a lot if a coin is worth almost a bitcoin
[2016-10-28 11:55:38] Gemz : why would u pay 100 btc for a zec if u know a week later the price will be much less than that
[2016-10-28 11:55:58] uwotmate : because you think you can flip it for 150 BTC or 200 BTC
[2016-10-28 11:56:04] uwotmate : during the pump
[2016-10-28 11:56:07] wurstgelee : Gemz: because u expect it to be 120 btc a little later
[2016-10-28 11:56:10] Gemz : that just panic buying, u gonna get rekt
[2016-10-28 11:56:17] RoftheN : And also if you're a big miner and want to drive up the price
[2016-10-28 11:56:33] wurstgelee : u dont have to agree with fomo....your job is to act on it ;)
[2016-10-28 11:56:39] uwotmate : only the last guy who buys at the top gets rekt, lots of people will profit buying ZEC at over 100 BTC
[2016-10-28 11:57:27] Sidwick : whales selling to lower before pumping it up to 1.75
[2016-10-28 11:57:31] Gemz : i say this: zec price will trade under 1 btc with low marketcap and its marketcap will gradually rise over time to top 5
[2016-10-28 11:58:01] rapidtrades : so limits are off in 3 mins or what
[2016-10-28 11:58:23] btceurope : So when its good to buy in the first reboot from min price?
[2016-10-28 11:58:25] Gemz : uwotmate: so where do u buy, at bitmex or u wait to buy at polo
[2016-10-28 11:58:26] Sidwick : are limits off or is it 50% increase?
[2016-10-28 11:58:43] Sidwick : uwo, you go to uwo?
[2016-10-28 11:59:18] Gemz : i think price gonna dump to 0.2
[2016-10-28 11:59:38] uwotmate : I'm buying at both bitmex and polo
[2016-10-28 11:59:39] kay : Gemz: that will be great for trading
[2016-10-28 11:59:47] Gemz : even that makes it still $140 per sec
[2016-10-28 12:00:14] rx84 : .aaaand, the limits are off
[2016-10-28 12:00:21] Sidwick : OPEN SEASON
[2016-10-28 12:00:33] rasdasd : lol lets see what happens
[2016-10-28 12:00:34] uwotmate : panic buy!
[2016-10-28 12:00:36] kay : no one knows the amount of liquidity out there anything can happen in crypto world
[2016-10-28 12:00:41] Gemz : u can already buy to 1.17 btc
[2016-10-28 12:00:46] NW2443 : how long does it take to have wallet balance after deposit from btc wallet
[2016-10-28 12:01:06] chromaticcr1 : time for market manipulation!
[2016-10-28 12:01:12] NW2443 : ?
[2016-10-28 12:01:49] aethlios : above 10 says invalid price
[2016-10-28 12:02:06] kumarz : mannn I wish I bought some @ the latest 0.7 dip (ZEC)
[2016-10-28 12:02:24] chromaticcr1 : wow
[2016-10-28 12:02:24] chromaticcr1 : gonna move it move it
[2016-10-28 12:02:44] rasdasd : lol maybe we hit 2 btc?
[2016-10-28 12:02:45] kay : aethlios: no matter the price trade the crypto.
[2016-10-28 12:02:50] martinium : Wow 0.87......
[2016-10-28 12:03:09] kay : in cryptos price cannot be justified for any currency
[2016-10-28 12:05:35] uwotmate : 10k BTC per ZEC soon on polo
[2016-10-28 12:05:36] sleger : site broken ?
[2016-10-28 12:05:43] RoftheN : Oh ZEC even comes to Bitfinex
[2016-10-28 12:05:46] uwotmate : buy buy buy
[2016-10-28 12:05:48] RoftheN : 10k woudln't surprise me now
[2016-10-28 12:06:02] chromaticcr1 : this is the new 42Coin
[2016-10-28 12:06:16] RoftheN : Oh I remember 42coin
[2016-10-28 12:06:18] RoftheN : I mined it
[2016-10-28 12:06:23] Kalman : sleger: somehow laggy
[2016-10-28 12:06:31] RoftheN : 500$ with one GPU in one day
[2016-10-28 12:06:33] wurstgelee : sleger: they are dealing with it
[2016-10-28 12:06:37] fsec : when is trading on polo going to start?
[2016-10-28 12:06:38] Kalman : 1400 users
[2016-10-28 12:06:39] chromaticcr1 : no one knows if the supply is altered -> we have answer for the life and universe -> the supply of ZEC = 42
[2016-10-28 12:06:43] wurstgelee : no clue if ddos issue or something else, they wont tell
[2016-10-28 12:06:58] wurstgelee : fsec: today
[2016-10-28 12:07:07] sleger : site broken couldnt place an order for 2 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:07:07] sleger : right after settlement on friday nice job
[2016-10-28 12:07:08] sleger : looks like 1000 users meant the end of bitmex
[2016-10-28 12:07:10] RoftheN : 53 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:07:27] Kalman : sleger: hope not
[2016-10-28 12:09:07] rasdasd : that buy wall for zec
[2016-10-28 12:09:11] wurstgelee : https://twitter.com/Crypto_God/status/791974443727855616
[2016-10-28 12:09:14] wurstgelee : holy f....
[2016-10-28 12:09:17] fsec : 50 ZEC BUY :O
[2016-10-28 12:09:23] wurstgelee : and it isnt even live :)
[2016-10-28 12:09:24] justinlooking : idiotic US date format on Eth Swap label
[2016-10-28 12:09:37] rasdasd : in my last 3 years in crypto I cant remember of a bigger hype that this lol
[2016-10-28 12:09:49] rapidtrades : i'm getting more disconnects today
[2016-10-28 12:09:53] wurstgelee : rasdasd: that ;)
[2016-10-28 12:09:58] RoftheN : What about Ethereum?
[2016-10-28 12:10:08] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: right now its great for me, was shitty minutes earlier. not stable :|
[2016-10-28 12:10:09] chromaticcr1 : fsec: make it a market order
[2016-10-28 12:10:14] uwotmate : biggest buy wall bitmex has ever seen
[2016-10-28 12:10:24] rasdasd : yep its close..but look at miners who are ready to mine zcash...its insane
[2016-10-28 12:10:29] wurstgelee : uwotmate: surely not ;)
[2016-10-28 12:10:38] rapidtrades : i see no wall
[2016-10-28 12:10:40] fsec : is there a way to check the whole order book?
[2016-10-28 12:10:45] justinlooking : uwotmate: u mean apart from the 150 on the limit up bid last night?
[2016-10-28 12:10:52] wurstgelee : fsec: click expand button on top right
[2016-10-28 12:10:55] chromaticcr1 : there will be plenty of DPE happen
[2016-10-28 12:10:58] rapidtrades : chat is slow as f*ck btw
[2016-10-28 12:11:18] Gemz : zec gonna dump hard at the start then go up
[2016-10-28 12:11:20] wurstgelee : chromaticcr1: no. DPE is dead
[2016-10-28 12:11:24] wurstgelee : its ADL now
[2016-10-28 12:11:24] aethlios : started mining?? nicehas is mining
[2016-10-28 12:11:25] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-28 12:11:48] aethlios : https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=orders&a=24
[2016-10-28 12:11:48] chromaticcr1 : delay is like a minute or so
[2016-10-28 12:11:49] rasdasd : aethlios: its a testnet
[2016-10-28 12:11:58] rasdasd : in 50mins it will be live
[2016-10-28 12:12:08] chromaticcr1 : wurstgelee: thanks for fixed. got used to the old crap
[2016-10-28 12:12:17] uwotmate : I'm buying big before this takes off
[2016-10-28 12:12:36] chromaticcr1 : kinda like it this way now
[2016-10-28 12:12:38] uwotmate : nobody's going to dump into those buy orders
[2016-10-28 12:12:42] RoftheN : aethlios I want to hire hashrate, how?
[2016-10-28 12:12:43] Gemz : rasdasd: what will be live?
[2016-10-28 12:12:55] rasdasd : Gemz: mining
[2016-10-28 12:12:57] fsec : Someone is trying to scoop up all of the cheap coins. This pump is going to be huuuge
[2016-10-28 12:13:06] Gemz : uwotmate: dude stop tricking people to buy
[2016-10-28 12:13:25] RoftheN : ZEC will be live in 47 minutes
[2016-10-28 12:13:40] kay : RoftheN: any link
[2016-10-28 12:13:43] RoftheN : But in cryptoworld there's always a delay
[2016-10-28 12:14:01] aethlios : better buy monero and short zcash to fund free monero buy.
[2016-10-28 12:14:50] Mm bot : How long until Bitmex removes Z price limits
[2016-10-28 12:15:09] uwotmate : this is going above 2.0 for sure
[2016-10-28 12:15:09] justinlooking : thye already have
[2016-10-28 12:15:30] aethlios : do they have a block explorer?
[2016-10-28 12:15:35] justinlooking : uwotmate: u r tetsuo?!
[2016-10-28 12:15:40] RoftheN : Dont have a link, but everyone in Zcash slack says it will be 13:00 UTC
[2016-10-28 12:16:22] fsec : yep easy 2.0, there was no point in pumping with the price limits. Now the party is going to start
[2016-10-28 12:16:23] Gemz : zec gonna dump hard under 0.1 then go up, watch
[2016-10-28 12:16:33] aethlios : so 45 minutes to wait
[2016-10-28 12:16:35] RoftheN : Gemz? today?
[2016-10-28 12:16:46] habibi : Gemz: my bids are waiting :)
[2016-10-28 12:16:49] uwotmate : no way, this is gonna pump
[2016-10-28 12:16:53] RoftheN : 44 minutes if there won't be a delay. But I don't remember any cryptocurrency without a delay
[2016-10-28 12:17:19] RoftheN : who would sell 1 of 83 for less than 0.5 btc lol
[2016-10-28 12:17:43] kay : here the volume is 1200 btc- watch out for polo definitely there will be 3000 btc waiting on the open for zec.
[2016-10-28 12:17:46] BitMEX_Jinming : Mm bot: there is no price limits on ZECZ16 now.
[2016-10-28 12:20:29] uwotmate : how long do BTC deposits take to show up? I deposited 10 BTC and it has 1 confirmation, but it's not showing in my account
[2016-10-28 12:20:49] Gemz : miner will be selling zec if price is anything more than $150, which is around 0.2
[2016-10-28 12:21:42] rasdasd : Gemz: they are not stupid..why would they sell it at that price when supply is low..at least for first 7 days
[2016-10-28 12:22:04] rasdasd : Gemz: but you are right about mining cost
[2016-10-28 12:22:29] habibi : keep dreaming about less thab 2 btc price at first day of spot trading
[2016-10-28 12:23:03] rasdasd : habibi: loops is that you
[2016-10-28 12:23:08] Gemz : miners know the price will be much less than what it is now, they gonna take their profits, also they have to pay their expenses
[2016-10-28 12:23:10] kay : Gemz: .2 is so cheap... surprise waiting for miners.zec miners are very lucky.
[2016-10-28 12:23:19] aethlios : bulls are you pumping above 1 or not, shorts waiting for you to attack.
[2016-10-28 12:23:35] BitMEX_Jinming : uwotmate: it should be a few minute after 1 confirmation.
[2016-10-28 12:24:18] rapidtrades : looks like zec party is OVER
[2016-10-28 12:25:05] fsec : watch for the next big buy, it's accumulation
[2016-10-28 12:25:19] kryptopojken : top accumulation :D
[2016-10-28 12:26:20] wurstgelee : it hasnt even launched. yet rapidtrades is already planning his funeral speech ;)
[2016-10-28 12:26:56] rapidtrades : it's been launched for months
[2016-10-28 12:27:28] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-28 12:27:32] rapidtrades : bubble gone pop
[2016-10-28 12:27:32] wurstgelee : oh? when was the genisis block mined again?
[2016-10-28 12:27:32] rapidtrades : still not shorting it....yet :)
[2016-10-28 12:27:33] wurstgelee : i cant recall... oO
[2016-10-28 12:29:11] RocketScience : is my wifi bad or does bitmex lag?
[2016-10-28 12:29:30] wurstgelee : wuhahaha
[2016-10-28 12:29:30] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-28 12:29:35] rasdasd : rekt
[2016-10-28 12:29:37] wurstgelee : bitmex is lagging af
[2016-10-28 12:29:45] Gemz : there we go
[2016-10-28 12:29:50] rasdasd : margin calls are really if you used leverage
[2016-10-28 12:29:55] RoftheN : Both
[2016-10-28 12:30:04] wurstgelee : aaand back up oO
[2016-10-28 12:30:04] zecpumperIseeyou : holy shit
[2016-10-28 12:30:04] zecpumperIseeyou : the volatility is crazy
[2016-10-28 12:30:05] maker101 : I wouldn't short it yet. Still worth half a million
[2016-10-28 12:30:09] uwotmate : buy the rumor, sell the news, mofos!
[2016-10-28 12:30:15] RoftheN : WOw
[2016-10-28 12:30:15] RoftheN : big difference
[2016-10-28 12:30:16] chromaticcr1 : i like how people use market order
[2016-10-28 12:30:18] Gemz : take profits while u can
[2016-10-28 12:31:09] Gemz : its gonna go below 0.1
[2016-10-28 12:31:32] RoftheN : Damn I wish I had a lower buyorder in there
[2016-10-28 12:32:12] frosas : That was weird
[2016-10-28 12:32:19] mjones : Lol dumping
[2016-10-28 12:32:56] maker101 : Market still well over half a billion. Hhahah
[2016-10-28 12:33:06] wurstgelee : this was nothing yet. wait until its actually listed at some spot exchange
[2016-10-28 12:33:09] habibi : maker can u show me the math please :)?
[2016-10-28 12:33:30] Gemz : maker101: what u mean half billion
[2016-10-28 12:33:40] maker101 : habibi: Sold my short at 0.55
[2016-10-28 12:33:45] wurstgelee : habibi: dont ask. he will tell u something with total coincapxbitmex price
[2016-10-28 12:33:50] maker101 : started out at 1.15 lol
[2016-10-28 12:34:18] maker101 : still got some left at 0.2 and 0.1
[2016-10-28 12:34:34] rasdasd : this chart looks like bitcoin at late 2013
[2016-10-28 12:34:36] RoftheN : Oh did it even go that high?
[2016-10-28 12:34:36] RoftheN : but after poloniex it will go up
[2016-10-28 12:34:47] wurstgelee : maker101: your "half a billion market cap"-amth...
[2016-10-28 12:35:01] Gemz : zec still at $470 each, way too overpriced
[2016-10-28 12:35:09] habibi : :D
[2016-10-28 12:35:28] habibi : one thing is really bad for bitmex, there will be so many crying kids here asking for refund soon
[2016-10-28 12:35:48] maker101 : RoftheN: It will go down. People on Polo think Bitmex is stupid prices
[2016-10-28 12:35:59] Gemz : zec is still in experimental mode and not proven any how to work well, buying at these prices is plain retarded
[2016-10-28 12:36:25] maker101 : crying that you think this scam coin is worth 700 million plus lol