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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-10-28 03:06:46] maker101 : ok so I will lose money but should avoid be liquidated [2016-10-28 03:07:10] maker101 : Bitmex should cancel this order for me, it's a bit strange :P [2016-10-28 03:07:24] Stilllight : how long until limits get removed? Can i deposit some btw now? [2016-10-28 03:07:37] kay : maker101: have you taken leverage? [2016-10-28 03:08:05] maker101 : what do you mean taken levwerage? [2016-10-28 03:08:20] kay : Stilllight: watch the time above 4.00 utc [2016-10-28 03:09:46] zen : In at limit. Thanks for cancelling your orders peeps! [2016-10-28 03:10:01] maker101 : hey [2016-10-28 03:10:12] maker101 : My short has gone? :) [2016-10-28 03:10:17] zen10 : maker101: so the price just dipped [2016-10-28 03:10:30] maker101 : yey lol [2016-10-28 03:10:41] chromaticcr1 : liqfest in 50 minutes [2016-10-28 03:10:44] maker101 : no i want my short back ? :P :P :P [2016-10-28 03:10:47] maker101 : HAHAH [2016-10-28 03:10:50] Stilllight : what just happene [2016-10-28 03:11:02] Stilllight : buy wall removed? [2016-10-28 03:11:45] chromaticcr1 : donald trump will get angry and liquidate your position [2016-10-28 03:11:55] maker101 : lol [2016-10-28 03:12:21] maker101 : Stilllight: someone just shorted a load of ZEC [2016-10-28 03:12:47] maker101 : released me as my limit order kicked in [2016-10-28 03:13:03] mjones : Zec open contracts way up last 3 hours [2016-10-28 03:13:15] maker101 : mjones: link? [2016-10-28 03:13:46] mjones : I am keeping count on my own [2016-10-28 03:13:54] Stilllight : what happens if I buy [2016-10-28 03:13:57] Stilllight : with no leverage [2016-10-28 03:14:03] Stilllight : there is a liquidation? [2016-10-28 03:14:09] miramm1115 : sleger re-opening his short ;-) [2016-10-28 03:14:51] QuantFocus : somebody needs to save the shorts [2016-10-28 03:14:54] QuantFocus : life just aint fair [2016-10-28 03:14:59] numero : but...but... the moon [2016-10-28 03:15:16] maker101 : thanks for saving me lol [2016-10-28 03:16:38] numero : anytime [2016-10-28 03:17:40] Nitu : Hi [2016-10-28 03:17:48] chromaticcr1 : hola [2016-10-28 03:18:01] Nitu : Zec? [2016-10-28 03:18:33] Nitu : What next Zec ? [2016-10-28 03:19:01] chromaticcr1 : earth --> moon ---> UrAnus [2016-10-28 03:19:19] shapeshifter : chromaticcr1: any link to the change in limits about to happen? [2016-10-28 03:19:30] chromaticcr1 : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/preparation-for-zcash-launch-limit-notice/ [2016-10-28 03:20:09] chromaticcr1 : you may see announcement on the top-left "bullhorn" button [2016-10-28 03:23:33] French_Canadian : BitMEX_Arthur: So if I can read the Bitmex announcement page, ZEC is not expected to be release on Polo or Kraken before 12:00UTC? [2016-10-28 03:30:27] maker101 : French_Canadian: still got your short open? [2016-10-28 03:36:36] zen10 : T minus 24 minutes to lift off [2016-10-28 03:38:15] Smartass : Is it even possible to give a "market order" (without a limit) for a future which has a limit up? I am asking this because a) my last market order was not processed at 22:00 for limit up on zecz16 b) theoretically a market order does not have a limit and might be in violation of the limit-up?? [2016-10-28 03:40:42] chromaticcr1 : because continue to excecute your market order would violate the rules of the contract. You can, however, place MarketWithLeftOverAsLimit, if you know how to operate API [2016-10-28 03:41:50] chaunceylee : 怎么不让买 [2016-10-28 03:41:56] Smartass : chromaticcr1:don't undestand is it possible or not [2016-10-28 03:42:11] chaunceylee : 怎么不能买,高一点就不让买 [2016-10-28 03:42:42] chromaticcr1 : 因为已经触及了市场时段的熔断价格限制 [2016-10-28 03:42:57] chromaticcr1 : 价格限制将会在正午12:00再次放宽 [2016-10-28 03:43:35] chaunceylee : 市价平仓也不让 [2016-10-28 03:43:51] Smartass : chromaticcr1: sry man don't get it is it possibel or not? [2016-10-28 03:44:11] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ZECZ16 你可以看看这边有关价格限制的 [2016-10-28 03:44:27] chaunceylee : 完蛋了 [2016-10-28 03:44:45] chromaticcr1 : Smartass: you have API to do so... just that you have to find it... [2016-10-28 03:44:52] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: 你做空了.... [2016-10-28 03:45:11] chaunceylee : 开盘肯定大涨 [2016-10-28 03:45:12] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: 现在价格上限放一个限价吧 [2016-10-28 03:45:14] chaunceylee : 我做空了 [2016-10-28 03:45:18] chromaticcr1 : 还有机会的 [2016-10-28 03:45:34] Smartass : chromaticcr1: thx [2016-10-28 03:45:37] chaunceylee : 至少要涨好几天呀 [2016-10-28 03:45:55] chromaticcr1 : chaunceylee: 天知道啊,当着妖股的炒就对了 [2016-10-28 03:46:15] jeff : 为什么zec这么贵啊?都还没开挖,即使今天正常上线,算力也小得可怜 [2016-10-28 03:46:32] chromaticcr1 : A股妖的就是一天10%,ZEC妖的就是8小时50%... [2016-10-28 03:46:34] zen10 : Why is everyone speaking french? [2016-10-28 03:46:57] jeff : It's Chinese, Not French [2016-10-28 03:47:13] chromaticcr1 : jeff: 供求的问题啊,刚开挖的第一天供应就大概5个 [2016-10-28 03:47:45] zen10 : jeff: really? I knew it was european [2016-10-28 03:48:36] jeff : 5个?zec的一个区块有多少币啊? [2016-10-28 03:48:38] chaunceylee : 刚开始供应很少,必然上涨 [2016-10-28 03:48:50] chromaticcr1 : jeff: https://forum.z.cash/t/buy-or-sell-zcash/1511/35 看看这个 [2016-10-28 03:49:12] chromaticcr1 : Voluntary 的回复 天) 供应量 [2016-10-28 03:49:20] chaunceylee : yeah [2016-10-28 03:49:21] chromaticcr1 : zen10: it is Chinese [2016-10-28 03:49:22] chaunceylee : chinese [2016-10-28 03:49:27] chaunceylee : not french [2016-10-28 03:49:45] Carlos : Not speak in chinese please [2016-10-28 03:49:46] chaunceylee : hello,frends [2016-10-28 03:49:53] chaunceylee : why [2016-10-28 03:50:03] zen10 : S'cuse moi [2016-10-28 03:50:38] zen10 : See you at 1.17 in t minus 10 minutes. [2016-10-28 03:50:41] chaunceylee : 1/6 of 6 billion speak chinese [2016-10-28 03:51:05] Carlos : Or I will speak in spanish [2016-10-28 03:51:10] zen10 : the others speak European [2016-10-28 03:51:16] chaunceylee : chinese,let's speak chinese [2016-10-28 03:51:36] chaunceylee : 哈哈 [2016-10-28 03:51:56] zen10 : I'll speak in Esperanto backwards if zec takes off right now. [2016-10-28 03:52:10] numero : chaunceylee: 你是中国人吗 [2016-10-28 03:52:23] jeff : You wanna know why BTC price is rising? Learn some Chinese [2016-10-28 03:52:32] Carlos : focus please in the trade the price is so low XBTUSD [2016-10-28 03:53:13] chaunceylee : hah [2016-10-28 03:53:14] chaunceylee : haha [2016-10-28 03:53:40] chaunceylee : numero: 100% chinese [2016-10-28 03:53:49] chaunceylee : and you? [2016-10-28 03:54:03] jeff : the BTC price is manipulated by Chinese already. So will be any other populated coins [2016-10-28 03:54:04] zen10 : 7 minutes to the feeding frenzy. imma grab some popcorn [2016-10-28 03:54:11] numero : chaunceylee: no, I am irish [2016-10-28 03:55:24] imabeast : lehgo [2016-10-28 03:55:34] imabeast : mass dump incoming [2016-10-28 03:55:42] numero : chinese government 忽悠 [2016-10-28 03:55:48] numero : great for cryptoland [2016-10-28 03:56:05] imabeast : the chinese pumping zec!! [2016-10-28 03:56:12] chromaticcr1 : 接盘侠游戏~ [2016-10-28 03:56:13] numero : it's gonna be an interesting few years [2016-10-28 03:56:30] Stilllight : it can't be a dump [2016-10-28 03:56:45] trejderjack : haha, its gonna dump like crazy [2016-10-28 03:56:59] trejderjack : you gonna loose money [2016-10-28 03:57:07] imabeast : chinese are gonna dump :( [2016-10-28 03:57:12] habibi : trejderjack: again, this is not polo trollbox [2016-10-28 03:57:15] imabeast : lmao [2016-10-28 03:57:28] frosas : haha [2016-10-28 03:57:54] frosas : It could dump now if someone wanted to open a bunch of contracts.. [2016-10-28 03:57:59] Stilllight : it could dump now [2016-10-28 03:58:04] Stilllight : right. [2016-10-28 03:58:10] Kahir : 1 btc incoming [2016-10-28 03:58:11] QuantFocus : there were a lot of contracts sold in the last hour or two [2016-10-28 03:58:12] Kahir : :D [2016-10-28 03:58:20] imabeast : no this is gonna fly to the next limit lol [2016-10-28 03:58:32] Stilllight : if the price was going to dump it could laready [2016-10-28 03:58:43] Stilllight : soooooo maybe this is free money [2016-10-28 03:58:54] ThisChapsBrexiting : Next limit is 25 or 50% from here? [2016-10-28 03:59:00] QuantFocus : they're waiting for everyone to throw money at the next limit [2016-10-28 03:59:04] poes : 50% [2016-10-28 03:59:09] zen10 : imabeast: what's your prediction on how fast it hits the next limit? I'm guessing 45 seconds [2016-10-28 03:59:19] Stilllight : ... [2016-10-28 03:59:22] Stilllight : 1 min [2016-10-28 03:59:26] aethlios : 1.175 is next limit? [2016-10-28 03:59:50] frosas : 10 [2016-10-28 03:59:51] frosas : 9 [2016-10-28 03:59:52] frosas : 8 [2016-10-28 03:59:53] poes : go retard whales go [2016-10-28 03:59:54] frosas : 7 [2016-10-28 03:59:55] frosas : 6 [2016-10-28 03:59:57] frosas : 5 [2016-10-28 03:59:58] frosas : 4 [2016-10-28 04:00:00] frosas : :) [2016-10-28 04:00:05] saigonese : what will happen with ZEC? [2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 6 @ 0.809893 [2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 46 @ 0.846755 [2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 19 @ 0.883340 [2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.852641 [2016-10-28 04:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.875000 [2016-10-28 04:00:20] numero : wow [2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.975000 [2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 25 @ 0.960003 [2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.913768 [2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 71 @ 0.963874 [2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.979710 [2016-10-28 04:00:24] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.979710 [2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.968829 [2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.914396 [2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.979710 [2016-10-28 04:00:25] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.979710 [2016-10-28 04:00:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 1.035693 [2016-10-28 04:00:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 4 @ 0.992047 [2016-10-28 04:00:34] zen10 : oh wow. that's some serious liquidations [2016-10-28 04:00:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 1.110338 [2016-10-28 04:00:39] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 1.129355 [2016-10-28 04:00:39] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 13 @ 1.122242 [2016-10-28 04:00:54] sebaas : sick [2016-10-28 04:01:00] zen10 : wow. hit the limit in 35seconds [2016-10-28 04:01:00] poes : hahahahaa retardeeeeeeed [2016-10-28 04:01:02] Kahir : thanks [2016-10-28 04:01:12] imabeast : wait wth how did i get de leveraged?!??! [2016-10-28 04:01:14] ThisChapsBrexiting : ADL out of my long completely. Holy suck. [2016-10-28 04:01:18] numero : 月亮! [2016-10-28 04:01:19] aethlios : I am short 15 at 1.175, thanks. [2016-10-28 04:01:33] laisee : Some aad shorts out there today ... [2016-10-28 04:01:40] imabeast : wait how did i get de leveraged? [2016-10-28 04:01:47] frosas : I had stop limit order and didn't even fill :( [2016-10-28 04:02:02] chromaticcr1 : 中国的小伙伴们加一下weixin群吧 [2016-10-28 04:02:06] QuantFocus : haha, you suckers [2016-10-28 04:02:13] QuantFocus : bought into that...who are you selling to now? [2016-10-28 04:02:26] QuantFocus : gg [2016-10-28 04:03:02] Stilllight : so can one buy and sell at will?? [2016-10-28 04:03:26] sebaas : bye all [2016-10-28 04:04:39] sebaas : cunt exchange [2016-10-28 04:05:23] imabeast : how did i get deleveraged and all my longs got closed!??!? [2016-10-28 04:05:30] imabeast : i didnt want to sell [2016-10-28 04:05:32] imabeast : wth [2016-10-28 04:05:50] ThisChapsBrexiting : https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging [2016-10-28 04:06:15] Mm bot : Got ADL out my Z the second time [2016-10-28 04:06:20] kay : imabeast: it happens here often.look into the green near order book [2016-10-28 04:06:30] laisee : Dats the rules of the game at bmx [2016-10-28 04:06:44] Stilllight : If I sell does that mean I am betting the price goes up? [2016-10-28 04:07:15] sebaas : Stilllight: don't do it if you need to ask this [2016-10-28 04:07:15] Mm bot : Can I opt out ADL if I go 1x? [2016-10-28 04:07:22] numero : lol [2016-10-28 04:07:31] fiq : what the heck? did it hit the limit again???? [2016-10-28 04:07:40] QuantFocus : enjoy your bags [2016-10-28 04:07:40] aethlios : longs sell now that suckers still buy. [2016-10-28 04:07:57] aethlios : don't stay with the bag on hand. [2016-10-28 04:08:08] Smartass : kay: don't get it neither what mean the colors? [2016-10-28 04:09:16] sebaas : bitmex maffia [2016-10-28 04:09:24] numero : well it looks like free money [2016-10-28 04:09:37] tedy : hey, am I tripping or 1ZEC = 1BTC? [2016-10-28 04:09:50] QuantFocus : you're tripping [2016-10-28 04:09:56] QuantFocus : 1 zec = 1.13btc [2016-10-28 04:10:02] tedy : LOL [2016-10-28 04:10:23] aethlios : i am taking a picture of orderbook to remember in one year!!! [2016-10-28 04:10:29] Stilllight : wait [2016-10-28 04:10:36] Kahir : 2 btc soon boies [2016-10-28 04:10:40] Stilllight : I thought SECZ16 is going to be Spot Market soon? [2016-10-28 04:10:50] Stilllight : So where is the futures option? [2016-10-28 04:11:24] jm : is Zcash live on Ploniex? [2016-10-28 04:11:30] jm : I dont see [2016-10-28 04:11:31] chromaticcr1 : no [2016-10-28 04:11:41] jm : where is prcie info from [2016-10-28 04:11:49] chromaticcr1 : we all idiots [2016-10-28 04:11:56] Smartass : jm: no it will start after Zcash went live [2016-10-28 04:12:38] Stilllight : someone explain the idea of the contract expiring DEC30 [2016-10-28 04:12:56] Stilllight : Are we trading our opinion of the ZEC price on DEC30? [2016-10-28 04:13:08] poes : yup [2016-10-28 04:13:20] laisee : Da [2016-10-28 04:13:30] Stilllight : aha [2016-10-28 04:13:57] sebaas : do not short and get trapped though on zec [2016-10-28 04:14:05] Smartass : Stilllight: yes your are making a bet on price of Dec 30 [2016-10-28 04:14:15] sebaas : illuiquid loq supply bullshit future [2016-10-28 04:14:17] imabeast : is there a way to stop ADL? [2016-10-28 04:14:18] Stilllight : in 8 hours the limits will be removed [2016-10-28 04:14:34] Cheese : Does the limit go up again? [2016-10-28 04:16:20] baxterman : there will be 410,000ish ZEC in circulation around Dec 30th. You think pricing will be over $700 a coin then? [2016-10-28 04:16:36] BitMEX_Arthur : There will be no more limits after 12 UTC today, it will be freely tradable [2016-10-28 04:17:03] imabeast : @bitmex_arthur how do you prevent ADL? [2016-10-28 04:17:28] baxterman : ok, nice. so if we buy now, can we freely sell after 12UTC anytime with whatever percentage of profit? [2016-10-28 04:17:32] imabeast : BitMEX_Arthur: how do you prevent ADL? ** [2016-10-28 04:18:28] BitMEX_Arthur : We can't prevent ADL. ADL is used to ensure no trader has negative equity [2016-10-28 04:19:31] imabeast : BitMEX_Arthur: i wasnt in negative equity though i got in zec at .34 [2016-10-28 04:19:54] Smartass : BitMEX_Arthur: If i have 1 green bar does this mean my positoned is very much threatended by ADL or not so? [2016-10-28 04:19:57] chromaticcr1 : well if you count, the limit up and down kinda provides a barrier for preventing extensive ADL happens [2016-10-28 04:20:21] Smartass : really don't get the colors [2016-10-28 04:20:42] MrRGnome : imabeast: your position was closed to make sure someone who was liquidated didn't have negative equity [2016-10-28 04:20:48] MrRGnome : Tha'ts what ADL does [2016-10-28 04:20:53] imabeast : ah i see [2016-10-28 04:20:56] maker101 : This is crazy [2016-10-28 04:21:01] chromaticcr1 : you can click on the ADL signal bar to learn more, it just an indication of what quartile yyou are queued for ADL in the system [2016-10-28 04:21:22] 99991111 : Does ADL dup everyone in the quartile at once? [2016-10-28 04:21:27] 99991111 : dump [2016-10-28 04:21:36] Smartass : so green means no threat of ADL? [2016-10-28 04:22:03] MrRGnome : the more bars that are filled, the more likely to ADl [2016-10-28 04:22:05] MrRGnome : the last bar is red. [2016-10-28 04:22:44] Smartass : MrRGnome: o.k. [2016-10-28 04:23:18] chromaticcr1 : Smartass: the ADL bar would change accrd to your leverage and PnL, you should keep an eye on that. It just means currently you are relatively less likely to get ADL [2016-10-28 04:23:41] Stilllight : what happens if you don't leverage [2016-10-28 04:23:45] MrRGnome : chromaticcr1: pretty sure that's incorrect [2016-10-28 04:23:50] Stilllight : at 1x? [2016-10-28 04:23:54] MrRGnome : leverage doesn't matter except for liquidations [2016-10-28 04:23:57] Stilllight : is there still liquidation [2016-10-28 04:24:13] MrRGnome : ADl != liquidation, it's the other side of the coin that filsl liquidations [2016-10-28 04:24:35] chromaticcr1 : Ranking = PNL Percentage * Effective Leverage [2016-10-28 04:24:47] Smartass : chromaticcr1: ja read it... [2016-10-28 04:25:25] MrRGnome : Someone gets liquidated, there isn't enough market volume to ge them out fo their position without incurring a negative balance - so it consumes the insurance fund for the difference and fi the insurance fund is empty (it is for zcash) then ADL happens and a profitable or near profit trader is force closed to fill the liquidated users orders [2016-10-28 04:26:13] MrRGnome : The end result is that profitable or near profitable traders are taking a hit because chronic gamblers can't exit their positions without getting a negative balance [2016-10-28 04:26:29] numero : wow, the early bird pukes up the worm? [2016-10-28 04:26:54] imabeast : jeez smh [2016-10-28 04:27:30] aethlios : bulls sell now that you can, still suckers buy. [2016-10-28 04:28:04] Eric_Arber : so what happens on short margin calls when there are not enough contracts to buy back to close short positions? [2016-10-28 04:28:21] Smartass : Eric_Arber: ADL [2016-10-28 04:28:35] MrRGnome : Eric_Arber: A profitable traders position is closed to create the necessary volume. [2016-10-28 04:30:17] aethlios : epic hype, 800 usd for a non exist coin [2016-10-28 04:30:49] numero : ascending triangle straight to limit... [2016-10-28 04:30:55] numero : looks bullish to me [2016-10-28 04:32:53] baxterman : numero: lies! [2016-10-28 04:33:31] numero : ignorance, more like [2016-10-28 04:35:16] Kahir : 2 btc boies [2016-10-28 04:35:23] Kahir : dont sell cheap [2016-10-28 04:35:24] chromaticcr1 : make it 10 [2016-10-28 04:35:36] Kahir : only 100 coin at first day [2016-10-28 04:37:34] zen10 : whats the new limit up? [2016-10-28 04:38:04] aethlios : zen10: 1.1756 now, no limit in 8 hours [2016-10-28 04:38:39] aethlios : i started close my 15 short from 1.175, thanks delusionals [2016-10-28 04:38:54] zen10 : aethlios: no limit in 8 hours. hmm. how high can these futures go? [2016-10-28 04:39:05] chromaticcr1 : cant wait for a short squeeze [2016-10-28 04:39:34] aethlios : zen10: better play with 1 contract, sell 5 buy back at 2 and make 3 btc [2016-10-28 04:40:05] zen10 : Kahir: I keep hearing different numbers. Isn't it 12btc every hour ? [2016-10-28 04:40:50] aethlios : 12 billion market cap zcash with no coins yet. [2016-10-28 04:41:11] zen10 : aethlios: not a bad risk ratio [2016-10-28 04:41:23] habibi : aethlios: learn how to do the math, or how to troll people in chat [2016-10-28 04:41:48] aethlios : little guy needs 2.5 btc margin to open 1 contract at 5, [2016-10-28 04:43:50] maker101 : Zec is under priced [2016-10-28 04:44:02] aethlios : this is the most speculative instrument ever in crypto [2016-10-28 04:44:02] jm : aethlios: where do you see that? [2016-10-28 04:44:21] jm : aethlios: Oh .. just 1.08 * BTC Cap [2016-10-28 04:44:45] aethlios : jm: make it 1.175 ATH. crazy [2016-10-28 04:45:02] jm : aethlios: What was last transaction at? [2016-10-28 04:45:03] aethlios : and monero only 85 million [2016-10-28 04:45:12] aethlios : 1.084 [2016-10-28 04:45:12] jm : Looks like 1.08 [2016-10-28 04:45:32] jm : Is it trading on any exchange? (i.e., where is BitMex getting pricing info from? [2016-10-28 04:45:47] baxterman : aethlios: but ZEC isn't going to have crap total for coins for quite some time. Its going to make prices go insane with the hype behind this coin + lack of initial supply [2016-10-28 04:45:48] aethlios : doesn't exist yet. [2016-10-28 04:45:49] maker101 : No other exchange trading it [2016-10-28 04:46:37] aethlios : baxterman: ok agree but this is music chairs play for bulls. [2016-10-28 04:47:16] aethlios : today starts the real coin, polo bitfinex kraken bittrex [2016-10-28 04:47:58] aethlios : someone needs to write an article on bloomberg: the delusional bull. [2016-10-28 04:48:33] baxterman : aethlios: im already out of my initial position. I might buy alittle just to see as I can see this going insane [2016-10-28 04:49:17] maker101 : panic dump. Back to reality? [2016-10-28 04:49:18] baxterman : alot of hype, and literally zero supply at the beginning for a few days. Even after 60 days with 400k coins, this price would only be 240mil market cap. [2016-10-28 04:49:19] Smartass : uh i think its crashing now.. [2016-10-28 04:50:12] aethlios : I sold 15*1.175, thought I have 8 hours for logic people to buy back, already closed 7, 8 left. profit 4 btc now. can make money from stupidity. [2016-10-28 04:50:35] Smartass : when something crashes after such a run... it usually is horrible panib [2016-10-28 04:50:46] Eric_Arber : how many zec can get mined per day? [2016-10-28 04:51:58] aethlios : 3 l3ft to close [2016-10-28 04:52:01] baxterman : 10 coins to miners every 2.5 minutes. so about 5760 a day. [2016-10-28 04:52:05] MCT : longers about to eat dust [2016-10-28 04:52:10] imabeast : ^false [2016-10-28 04:52:20] imabeast : @baxterman [2016-10-28 04:52:37] imabeast : first day theirs like 100 coins [2016-10-28 04:52:47] imabeast : plus 10% to founders [2016-10-28 04:52:48] imabeast : lol [2016-10-28 04:52:57] imabeast : there is * [2016-10-28 04:53:14] maker101 : so founders get a billion. Nice [2016-10-28 04:53:29] aethlios : feed the founders pockets, also noone can check zcah supply, they can sell you as muas they want. [2016-10-28 04:54:08] numero : yeah, but if cryptocurrencies really take off we're not talking billions [2016-10-28 04:54:08] imabeast : maybe we see this dip to .5-.6? [2016-10-28 04:54:13] maker101 : Easy way to make a billion. Clone bitcoin and add a cit of extra encryption and build hype. Hundreds on anonymous coins other there this is pure hype lol [2016-10-28 04:54:13] numero : we're talking trillions [2016-10-28 04:54:30] numero : to insititute deeper NIRP, we'll have to go cashless [2016-10-28 04:54:41] numero : then ppl may really like zcash [2016-10-28 04:54:49] baxterman : imabeast: would be amazing to dip that low. im a buyer there [2016-10-28 04:54:50] numero : long, long term [2016-10-28 04:56:01] Smartass : I have shorted 1 Zec @ 92,5 now its 90 and ADL warning is at max??? A minimal profit and maximum threat of ADL how can that be?? [2016-10-28 04:56:35] imabeast : dont. short. [2016-10-28 04:56:40] imabeast : just sayin [2016-10-28 04:56:41] imabeast : lol [2016-10-28 04:57:43] baxterman : imabeast: yea, not a good idea. [2016-10-28 05:01:24] maker101 : we have more drop room and the up is protected for 8 hours :P [2016-10-28 05:02:26] aethlios : 1000 btc volume [2016-10-28 05:02:39] 99991111 : what time do limits open up? [2016-10-28 05:02:42] aethlios : eth 660 [2016-10-28 05:02:51] aethlios : 99991111: in 7 hours [2016-10-28 05:03:09] 99991111 : 7 or 8? [2016-10-28 05:03:33] aethlios : 12:00 utc, at next funding time [2016-10-28 05:04:40] aethlios : also okcoin exoiration in 3 hours. [2016-10-28 05:05:11] imabeast : think this is gonna need to dump before it goes up again [2016-10-28 05:05:21] maker101 : buy walls getting eaten? :P [2016-10-28 05:05:34] aethlios : closed my zcash short, thanks bulls 3.9 btc profit in 1 hour [2016-10-28 05:06:25] aethlios : I will sell 2 for 5 price, if anyone wants to buy. [2016-10-28 05:06:25] maker101 : aethlios: you sold too early could have been 10 btc [2016-10-28 05:06:37] habibi : the way u shilling ur positions says that either u lost a lot on shorting before or u will :D [2016-10-28 05:06:49] aethlios : maker101: wanted to close before the limit removed [2016-10-28 05:07:07] maker101 : yeah we have 7 hours [2016-10-28 05:07:12] maker101 : a lot can happen is 7 hours [2016-10-28 05:07:35] Kahir : RIP [2016-10-28 05:07:36] maker101 : 0.701 next buy wall [2016-10-28 05:07:55] Smartass : and it goes to hell [2016-10-28 05:08:22] maker101 : 0.85 BTC is not hell. That is second biggest crypto currency by a huge amount [2016-10-28 05:08:23] jose : and then it goes to 0.5 [2016-10-28 05:08:38] maker101 : 850 million before launch. gg [2016-10-28 05:09:45] Smartass : yeah for the next 5min then it goes to 0.01... [2016-10-28 05:10:29] Kahir : hmm [2016-10-28 05:10:34] Kahir : whats the limit for downside [2016-10-28 05:10:56] Smartass : when something - after such a run - starts slipping it goes over the cliff watch... [2016-10-28 05:11:43] aethlios : new delusional bulls in spot will soon be with us [2016-10-28 05:12:01] Smartass : Kahir: you are right... Free tradingis starting at 14:00h [2016-10-28 05:12:32] chromaticcr1 : remember 42Coin [2016-10-28 05:13:02] zmoon : Last chance to get ZCash under 1BTC [2016-10-28 05:13:11] habibi : chromaticcr1: yep, buy on cryptsy at ~400 btc per and sell hour later at 1600 [2016-10-28 05:13:43] jm : Smartass: yup [2016-10-28 05:14:28] chromaticcr1 : numbers are virtual, ×FOMO is REAL* [2016-10-28 05:15:07] janos666 : habibi: Except it's already past 1600 (when adjusted to max supply) [2016-10-28 05:15:32] Kahir : chromaticcr1: wooh u old mofo [2016-10-28 05:15:40] habibi : janos666: u can adjust it to dogecoin supply as well it will mean exacly the same [2016-10-28 05:15:43] Smartass : Oh in this session it can go down to 0.5878 i found out so you can buy a lot cheaper soon [2016-10-28 05:16:01] maker101 : Limit down - 0.39 Limit up 1.17 [2016-10-28 05:16:28] Smartass : maker101: 0.39 how to come to that number [2016-10-28 05:16:29] imabeast : guarentee we see a dip before launch [2016-10-28 05:17:07] maker101 : Smartass: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ZECZ16 [2016-10-28 05:17:28] Smartass : maker101: oh you are right my bad very tired - just got up for limitup [2016-10-28 05:17:32] chromaticcr1 : this is what cryptocurrencies halving means, yes the price is halving [2016-10-28 05:17:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 7 @ 0.807007 [2016-10-28 05:18:03] Kahir : ohh boii :D [2016-10-28 05:18:15] Kahir : here we go [2016-10-28 05:18:17] MCT : timber [2016-10-28 05:18:17] maker101 : longs being REKT :P [2016-10-28 05:18:41] Kahir : panic incoming [2016-10-28 05:19:01] janos666 : already in... [2016-10-28 05:19:07] Smartass : Kahir: oh yeah... [2016-10-28 05:19:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.721309 [2016-10-28 05:19:14] wurstgelee : no enough panic [2016-10-28 05:19:18] wurstgelee : more please [2016-10-28 05:19:20] chromaticcr1 : back where we started an hour ago [2016-10-28 05:19:21] wurstgelee : *Ünot [2016-10-28 05:19:30] Smartass : wurstgelee: hey wurst it is already gapping [2016-10-28 05:19:32] Smartass : here it goes [2016-10-28 05:19:35] wurstgelee : :D :D [2016-10-28 05:19:37] poes : lol its time [2016-10-28 05:19:38] wurstgelee : MORE [2016-10-28 05:19:39] Smartass : to hell [2016-10-28 05:19:46] chromaticcr1 : trailing stop is your friends, long position takers [2016-10-28 05:19:47] Smartass : i am short too you too [2016-10-28 05:19:48] maker101 : ouch long wreckage [2016-10-28 05:19:51] wurstgelee : also no, way too early for dumping [2016-10-28 05:20:03] Kahir : damn boi [2016-10-28 05:20:05] wurstgelee : shorting way 2 dangerous now...//my 2 cents [2016-10-28 05:20:18] aethlios : wurstgelee: sell and save your capital [2016-10-28 05:20:25] Smartass : wurstgelee: just one tiny at 92,5 [2016-10-28 05:20:29] wurstgelee : aethlios: haha [2016-10-28 05:20:33] aethlios : market crushing to normal levels [2016-10-28 05:20:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.585000 [2016-10-28 05:20:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.637500 [2016-10-28 05:20:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 6 @ 0.600255 [2016-10-28 05:20:43] chromaticcr1 : I just *short* my pants [2016-10-28 05:20:45] imabeast : wowsers [2016-10-28 05:20:46] imabeast : LOL [2016-10-28 05:20:50] wurstgelee : wuhahaha [2016-10-28 05:20:52] Kahir : now the reversal [2016-10-28 05:20:53] wurstgelee : MORE [2016-10-28 05:21:27] balon : paniccc [2016-10-28 05:21:31] Smartass : wurstgelee: high five everybody [2016-10-28 05:21:40] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-10-28 05:21:48] aethlios : 30% bid ask spread!! [2016-10-28 05:21:54] wurstgelee : aethlios: pssst [2016-10-28 05:21:58] wurstgelee : dont tell anyone [2016-10-28 05:21:59] maker101 : 570 million. Yeah that is more like it. NOT. [2016-10-28 05:22:00] wurstgelee : SELL MORE [2016-10-28 05:22:01] wurstgelee : ;) [2016-10-28 05:22:29] Kahir : reversal incoming watch out :D [2016-10-28 05:22:38] wurstgelee : lol [2016-10-28 05:22:39] wurstgelee : no [2016-10-28 05:22:41] wurstgelee : =) [2016-10-28 05:22:41] poes : rofl [2016-10-28 05:22:51] wurstgelee : oh damn, yes ofc [2016-10-28 05:22:52] wurstgelee : reversal [2016-10-28 05:22:55] wurstgelee : sell everything [2016-10-28 05:22:57] tanaka : Yo [2016-10-28 05:22:57] wurstgelee : :p [2016-10-28 05:23:35] aethlios : 50% loss from ATH, that's the reality. [2016-10-28 05:23:38] Kahir : roller coster [2016-10-28 05:23:49] imabeast : wow thank you ADL [2016-10-28 05:23:51] imabeast : lmao [2016-10-28 05:23:53] imabeast : saved me [2016-10-28 05:24:07] MCT : All coins = shitcoins [2016-10-28 05:24:12] maker101 : aethlios: what did I say :P [2016-10-28 05:24:58] aethlios : cheap 400 usd price [2016-10-28 05:25:02] imabeast : did anyone short that? [2016-10-28 05:25:08] imabeast : sheesh [2016-10-28 05:25:09] aethlios : me [2016-10-28 05:25:13] miramm1115 : limit up/down is big enough to wreck longs/shorts with very little money, just syaing [2016-10-28 05:25:22] imabeast : how many contracts? [2016-10-28 05:25:34] aethlios : 15*1.175, already closed [2016-10-28 05:25:42] imabeast : wowzers nice [2016-10-28 05:26:24] Kahir : 2 btc [2016-10-28 05:26:25] Kahir : soon [2016-10-28 05:26:31] Mohammad : Hi [2016-10-28 05:26:38] imabeast : aeth think it dips more? [2016-10-28 05:26:38] aethlios : dumped to 50% limit up delusional buyers, thought I have 8 hours for some logic to hit the market [2016-10-28 05:26:40] xyz : is it possible to deposit zec? [2016-10-28 05:26:56] habibi : aethlios: calm down and wait for ur rekttage [2016-10-28 05:26:58] aethlios : xyz: no only btc [2016-10-28 05:27:16] aethlios : habibi: no position, get in and out fast [2016-10-28 05:27:17] Mohammad : In really zcash=0.57btc??? [2016-10-28 05:27:24] Mohammad : Yes??? [2016-10-28 05:27:38] Smartass : xyz: no since there are no ZEC in existence right now [2016-10-28 05:27:42] Kahir : incominggg [2016-10-28 05:27:47] Kahir : reversal boi [2016-10-28 05:28:04] xyz : so zec price here is pure speculation [2016-10-28 05:28:25] miramm1115 : all prices everywhere is pure speculation [2016-10-28 05:28:27] xyz : more like prodigy lol [2016-10-28 05:28:29] aethlios : xyz: mothing more pure in the world now [2016-10-28 05:28:51] Mohammad : Now not zetcash ...I'm miner...mine zcash good?? [2016-10-28 05:29:15] xyz : argh i saw the price and mined some zec... [2016-10-28 05:29:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 2 @ 0.807500 [2016-10-28 05:29:46] CaptainDean : this Zec specualtion is completly nutsd !! :P [2016-10-28 05:30:13] Smartass : CaptainDean: its fuuuuuuun lol [2016-10-28 05:30:13] Mohammad : Trade zec is enabled?? [2016-10-28 05:30:14] aethlios : short shitty zcash, 3 years teck and buy the bottoming monero, a well known coin and different algo from btc. having btc and monero for the long term. [2016-10-28 05:30:23] Kahir : 2 btc incomingg [2016-10-28 05:31:14] CaptainDean : Zcash** [2016-10-28 05:31:46] kay : some bot is playing foul for buyers [2016-10-28 05:31:46] Mohammad : Zcash GPU mining or CPU??? [2016-10-28 05:31:52] Smartass : its crashing any sexnd again [2016-10-28 05:31:57] CaptainDean : Mohammad: both [2016-10-28 05:32:24] kay : dare to buy at these prices u win [2016-10-28 05:32:52] Mohammad : CaptainDean: GPU how much h Rx 470 [2016-10-28 05:33:05] CaptainDean : Mohammad: it's calculated in "sol" [2016-10-28 05:33:06] jose : dat buy wall at 0.62 though [2016-10-28 05:33:10] poes : zcash uses an overly complex (but admittely cool) old way from 2013 to fix the same problem monero already fixed efficiently hahahahaha [2016-10-28 05:33:16] CaptainDean : Mohammad: i think it's like 18.5/sol for an RX470 [2016-10-28 05:33:33] imabeast : that swing was ridiculous [2016-10-28 05:33:52] kay : imabeast: it happens in crypto world [2016-10-28 05:33:58] Smartass : don't think so no very telling how ask prices are collapsing [2016-10-28 05:34:00] maker101 : some whale tried to wipe people out lol [2016-10-28 05:34:04] Mohammad : What Sol ?? This is??h [2016-10-28 05:35:18] CaptainDean : Mohammad: That's the way they calculate it ... sol for solution i think [2016-10-28 05:35:32] aethlios : noone selling above 10 [2016-10-28 05:35:45] CaptainDean : Mohammad: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1660023.700 [2016-10-28 05:36:10] Mohammad : CaptainDean: thanks I checked [2016-10-28 05:36:19] jose : what is the max, again ? [2016-10-28 05:36:23] CaptainDean : Mohammad: have fun ;-) [2016-10-28 05:36:35] sabbybibi : the hashing algo is 2-phase: "sol" means solution to phase 1 (equihash without difficulty yet), which then goes on to phase 2 (take sol's sha256-twice hash just like bitcoin, and compare against difficulty) [2016-10-28 05:36:41] CaptainDean : jose: From now until 12:00 UTC, the price of ZECZ16 may not go below 0.391884 XBT (Limit Down), or above 1.175652 XBT (Limit Up). [2016-10-28 05:36:43] aethlios : next 3 days will be the wildest speculation ever [2016-10-28 05:36:49] sabbybibi : so... sol/s is like bitcoin's hash/s [2016-10-28 05:37:12] CaptainDean : sabbybibi: yep or Mh/s for Eth [2016-10-28 05:37:24] aethlios : 70% up from the bottom [2016-10-28 05:37:30] janos666 : CaptainDean: M stands for Mega :) [2016-10-28 05:37:35] CaptainDean : sabbybibi: no idea why they are using sol/s [2016-10-28 05:37:37] janos666 : like Kilo or Giga...