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[2016-10-22 18:30:16] BTCDJS : +1: -1. Not cool
[2016-10-22 18:31:17] +1 : BTCDJS: what is?
[2016-10-22 18:32:38] BTCDJS : You know what you did
[2016-10-22 18:35:52] +1 : BTCDJS: Sorry if I hurt you or anyone else.
[2016-10-22 18:36:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 98 @ 0.01823
[2016-10-22 18:36:35] mjones : down goes eth
[2016-10-22 18:39:18] dasdfasdf : after 12 dollars where does it stop?
[2016-10-22 18:58:22] Anon39 : how long is the "trading session"?
[2016-10-22 18:58:59] justinlooking : 8h\
[2016-10-22 18:59:48] Anon39 : 8h for all trading pair?
[2016-10-22 19:00:33] RocketScience : for swaps
[2016-10-22 19:01:05] RocketScience : 7 days futures are seven days and so on
[2016-10-22 19:01:40] Anon39 : seems like zcash is 24h?
[2016-10-22 19:01:59] RocketScience : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ZEC
[2016-10-22 19:02:08] RocketScience : i don't know
[2016-10-22 19:03:12] Anon39 : thanks i guess it start after every rebalance
[2016-10-22 20:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 125000 @ 655.29 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-10-22 20:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 26209 @ 656.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-22 20:08:21] aethlios : so now because we have x100 leverage the max funding is 0.375% every 8 hours??? (1%-0.5%)*75%= 0.375% can someone confirm??
[2016-10-22 20:10:40] j8 : aethlios: yeah i was just looking at that. it seems so. big change from 1.125% when it was 50x
[2016-10-22 20:11:34] arbitrage001 : where is the info?
[2016-10-22 20:11:43] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-10-22 20:12:57] arbitrage001 : i stiill reas it as 1.125
[2016-10-22 20:13:04] arbitrage001 : read
[2016-10-22 20:13:13] j8 : i don't
[2016-10-22 20:13:24] aethlios : arbitrage001: the example they have is with x50
[2016-10-22 20:14:09] aethlios : that's why predicted is stable 0.375% now
[2016-10-22 20:14:18] arbitrage001 : the cap said 1.125
[2016-10-22 20:14:33] j8 : just means they'll have to lower the leverage again if 0.375% is not enough
[2016-10-22 20:14:35] arbitrage001 : which take 3 funding period to reach
[2016-10-22 20:15:02] j8 : $1. The absolute Funding Rate is capped at 75% of the Initial Margin - Maintenance Margin.$
[2016-10-22 20:15:34] j8 : ignore those $'s
[2016-10-22 20:15:35] arbitrage001 : i dont think they take changing leverage into account
[2016-10-22 20:15:37] +1 : on 20th we had more than 0.375% https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-10-22 20:16:20] aethlios : @+1 no, look 8hour, not the daily.
[2016-10-22 20:17:36] +1 : aethlios: oops ;)
[2016-10-22 20:18:39] aethlios : this could create a "permanent" premium in a bull market, because cheaper cost to long and higher leverage.
[2016-10-22 20:18:58] aethlios : longs are much better now.
[2016-10-22 20:19:20] j8 : permanent until they change things.. that's what happened last time
[2016-10-22 20:19:39] aethlios : can have double position with same capital and 1/3 of the cost to long, so 6 times better.
[2016-10-22 20:21:40] j8 : really 1% a day should be plenty, but people are crazy.. before we had over 1% per 8 hours for a couple days
[2016-10-22 20:23:00] aethlios : yes I agree is much more fair now, 1.125% daily is good compensation for arbitragers to offer liq. and bulls can have a decent profit too, so more liquidity for all.
[2016-10-22 20:24:24] j8 : the market kind of falls apart if it's trading away from the mark price for long periods though. liquidations will not clear and everyone will get ADL'd
[2016-10-22 20:26:20] arbitrage001 : .375 cap is too small on a strong directional market
[2016-10-22 20:26:45] arbitrage001 : last time, we had 3-5% premium for longer than a few days
[2016-10-22 20:30:13] j8 : 9000 yen spread on XBJZ16.. market maker is being shy
[2016-10-22 20:30:55] miramm1115 : j8: there is no MM, only my small bot left
[2016-10-22 20:31:52] j8 : there was someone quoting 10000's an hour or two ago, seems to hit his limit pretty fast
[2016-10-22 20:33:40] arbitrage001 : wish they add usd pair
[2016-10-22 20:33:48] arbitrage001 : for dec contract
[2016-10-22 20:36:07] BigDaddyBigDick : would be nice
[2016-10-22 20:36:14] habibi : and quantos*
[2016-10-22 20:39:59] Rado : arbitrage001: why does it matter if it's USD or JPY?
[2016-10-22 20:40:09] Rado : ibtrade both the same way
[2016-10-22 20:40:22] arbitrage001 : Rado: my brain cant swich
[2016-10-22 20:40:23] j8 : not if USD/JPY moves
[2016-10-22 20:40:29] Rado : unless you think there will be more MMs
[2016-10-22 20:40:47] arbitrage001 : and what j8 mentions
[2016-10-22 20:41:14] mjones : JPY price is lagging behind
[2016-10-22 20:41:20] j8 : it's sketchy to use one exchange as the index, and there is more liquidity in BTC/USD or BTC/CNY anyway
[2016-10-22 20:41:30] mjones : someone has been selling 1000 BTC keeping price low.
[2016-10-22 20:41:51] Rado : j8: I trade the instrument price, not BTC price
[2016-10-22 20:42:22] Rado : mjones: we need $10 correction so Incan close my small short ;)
[2016-10-22 20:42:27] arbitrage001 : Rado: hedgers need hedging instrument
[2016-10-22 20:43:06] j8 : ^ this. you can't hedge against BTC/JPY unless you withdraw in JPY
[2016-10-22 20:43:07] Rado : arbitrage001: true, it's harder to hedge
[2016-10-22 20:43:15] mjones : correction or this was 1st of 3 legs
[2016-10-22 20:44:13] Rado : j8: in theory you can hedge with BTC and usdjpy on currency market
[2016-10-22 20:44:31] j8 : sure, complicate my life
[2016-10-22 20:44:53] Rado : But I agree USD contract will be traded way more
[2016-10-22 20:45:16] Rado : Don't get why BitMEX is so stuck on JPY
[2016-10-22 20:45:32] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: The JPY conts are cross-traded on Quoine
[2016-10-22 20:46:05] BitMEX_Sam : So you can trade the same contracts here or there and hedge JPY delta if needed
[2016-10-22 20:46:44] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I know you need them for Quine deal, but that doesn't stop you from having USD contract as well
[2016-10-22 20:46:54] Rado : unless the deal doesn't allow you
[2016-10-22 20:47:12] BitMEX_Sam : No, has nothing to do with that - honestly, we found traders talk much more about wanting a USD quarterly than they actually trade it
[2016-10-22 20:47:26] BitMEX_Sam : Generally the quarterlies did not trade well.
[2016-10-22 20:47:52] BitMEX_Sam : We believe a JPY contract will trade more healthily due to the increased traffic from Quoine's userbase.
[2016-10-22 20:48:20] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: you can't judge by just listing them 2 times
[2016-10-22 20:48:23] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: increase traffic? have u seen any traffic from quoine's users on old quantos daily?
[2016-10-22 20:48:31] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: We've had USD quarterlies for the past few years
[2016-10-22 20:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Quoine's users are trading on Quoine's interface, but yes, we get a lot of signups from there
[2016-10-22 20:48:52] Rado : If you have November and December many people will trade spreads and the volume will increase
[2016-10-22 20:49:05] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially if you go to https://trade.quoine.com/ and click `FUTURES` in the header you get the XBJ markets.
[2016-10-22 20:49:35] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: how is Quoine volume?
[2016-10-22 20:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I'll bring it up with the other partners. I agree that JPY is not trading as well as we expected but I'm not certain that listing more instruments (and shoring liquidity for them) is the answer
[2016-10-22 20:49:50] BitMEX_Sam : As in, their spot volume, or XBJ?
[2016-10-22 20:49:51] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: i was trading that dailys and watching them pretty closely, didnt seen any good volume beside my own trading there up to 30k contracts limit of mm
[2016-10-22 20:49:52] j8 : i don't see the quarterly on quoine's interface.
[2016-10-22 20:50:41] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: just speaking for myself, but if there are more instruments I will trade more
[2016-10-22 20:50:51] Rado : let me give you an example
[2016-10-22 20:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You're correct. Their interface has been in flux, wonder what happened there.
[2016-10-22 20:50:53] BitMEX_Sam : I'll reach out to them.
[2016-10-22 20:51:34] Rado : I trade quarterly and swap, two different strategies
[2016-10-22 20:51:59] Rado : swap is not making me trade less of the quarterlies
[2016-10-22 20:52:11] Rado : if you add November I will trade even more
[2016-10-22 20:52:12] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, we're testing an order amend feature on https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-10-22 20:52:22] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Thanks for the feedback, I'll pass this on to the rest of the guys
[2016-10-22 20:52:26] BitMEX_Sam : We want to list what trades.
[2016-10-22 20:52:46] BitMEX_Sam : Re: Order Amend, if any of you have testnet accounts I'd love for you to try it before we roll it into the live site.
[2016-10-22 20:52:51] Rado : now I can't short on this pop because there is nothing to hedge against
[2016-10-22 20:52:58] Rado : only one long term contract
[2016-10-22 20:53:10] Rado : And swap doesn't work for that
[2016-10-22 20:53:38] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, I care a lot about ButMEX succeeding
[2016-10-22 20:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Appreciate that
[2016-10-22 20:54:00] Rado : there is no other place that allows me to trade like here
[2016-10-22 20:54:13] miramm1115 : old quarterly quantos had decent open value but daily volume was not that high, as expected for long-term contract
[2016-10-22 20:54:48] miramm1115 : the main problem for MM is offering enough liquidity on the ask side
[2016-10-22 20:55:03] miramm1115 : for quantos, shouldn't be a problem on inverse
[2016-10-22 20:56:49] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: i just checked out the amend feature, the buttons are huge and the input box is really narrow
[2016-10-22 20:58:18] j8 : actually, on the Active Orders panel the column expands. on the XBTUSD panel it didn't
[2016-10-22 20:58:27] BitMEX_Sam : Which browser?
[2016-10-22 20:58:47] j8 : chrome
[2016-10-22 20:59:14] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I see, we have to set a min width if you have a narrower viewport. Thanks
[2016-10-22 21:02:16] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: if my position is closed because of ADL do I get charged commission?
[2016-10-22 21:03:22] j8 : perhaps the stop trigger price could be amendable also
[2016-10-22 21:10:22] Rado : j8: from the API?
[2016-10-22 21:10:50] Rado : Right now you have to cancel the order if you want to change the stop price?
[2016-10-22 21:10:51] j8 : it's already possible by api
[2016-10-22 21:11:01] Rado : Oh
[2016-10-22 21:11:10] Rado : so in here
[2016-10-22 21:11:18] Rado : yes that will be nice
[2016-10-22 21:11:31] Rado : I change my stop all the time
[2016-10-22 21:15:45] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You can modify stop prices as well
[2016-10-22 21:20:39] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: did you see my question about ADL and commissions
[2016-10-22 21:21:01] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I believe you get the maker rebate on ADL, I will confirm that however
[2016-10-22 21:21:13] Velancry : how low can u go
[2016-10-22 21:22:01] Rado : Thanks
[2016-10-22 21:24:35] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I can confirm, you are marked as a maker when ADL'd.
[2016-10-22 21:25:37] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: it looked like the stop price could be amended but not the trigger price, for stop limit orders
[2016-10-22 21:25:59] BitMEX_Sam : j8: The triggering price just shows the current mark or last price
[2016-10-22 21:26:10] BitMEX_Sam : You can't switch strategies, that is true.
[2016-10-22 21:26:20] BitMEX_Sam : But you can change your stop price.
[2016-10-22 21:27:19] j8 : gotcha, my mistake
[2016-10-22 21:29:52] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: cool, that's fare
[2016-10-22 22:08:31] BTCDJS : Rado: fair*
[2016-10-22 22:09:30] BTCDJS : learn how to spell ya fucking want stain
[2016-10-22 22:09:39] BTCDJS : wank
[2016-10-22 22:09:51] BTCDJS : as in spunk
[2016-10-22 22:09:57] BTCDJS : jizz
[2016-10-22 22:10:01] BTCDJS : cum
[2016-10-22 22:11:09] BTCDJS : semen
[2016-10-22 22:11:43] BTCDJS : just joking.
[2016-10-22 22:12:41] hazir : ahh when will someone buy my zcash at 0.207 :D waiting for hours gosh
[2016-10-22 22:13:03] hazir : then will probably be bummed out crazy people drive it even higher
[2016-10-22 22:13:24] hazir : lol order filled. tank you chat :D
[2016-10-22 22:13:31] BTCDJS : felt like trolling. And raising your aggression levels for fun. But I have no opinion about you for or against at all.
[2016-10-22 22:13:44] hazir : *tank
[2016-10-22 22:13:50] hazir : *thankkk
[2016-10-22 22:14:03] BTCDJS : because you don't matter.
[2016-10-22 22:14:13] BTCDJS : trolling again...
[2016-10-22 22:14:22] mjones : i might trade zec on friday
[2016-10-22 22:14:30] mjones : a lot of people mining = higher price
[2016-10-22 22:14:40] BTCDJS : mjones: shut the fuck up
[2016-10-22 22:15:04] mjones : say that again BTCDJS i want to see something
[2016-10-22 22:15:13] BTCDJS : mjones: no
[2016-10-22 22:15:25] BTCDJS : see with your eyes
[2016-10-22 22:15:28] mjones : i think the notification that popped up said fuck in it
[2016-10-22 22:15:49] mjones : it said f_uck
[2016-10-22 22:15:52] BTCDJS : mjones: yeah you can't say F8ck
[2016-10-22 22:16:02] BTCDJS : fuck
[2016-10-22 22:16:10] mjones : BTCDJS: fuck fuck fuck
[2016-10-22 22:16:24] BTCDJS : mjones: fuck you too
[2016-10-22 22:16:36] BTCDJS : bitch and cunt are allowed tho
[2016-10-22 22:16:38] mjones : ok thank you
[2016-10-22 22:16:52] mjones : anyways back to making money
[2016-10-22 22:16:54] BTCDJS : ah no they changed cunt
[2016-10-22 22:17:04] BTCDJS : c*nt
[2016-10-22 22:17:09] BTCDJS : not kitten
[2016-10-22 22:17:19] BTCDJS : damn
[2016-10-22 22:17:30] BTCDJS : thats my favourite word whore
[2016-10-22 22:17:50] BTCDJS : dick
[2016-10-22 22:17:58] BTCDJS : shit
[2016-10-22 22:18:19] BTCDJS : you can grab em by the pussy
[2016-10-22 22:18:24] justinlooking : kitten should not be censored if input contains rapid
[2016-10-22 22:18:28] justinlooking : clearly a bug
[2016-10-22 22:18:55] BTCDJS : justinlooking: nobody asked you
[2016-10-22 22:20:24] BTCDJS : K I'm done being a cunt
[2016-10-22 22:20:33] BTCDJS : sorry guys.
[2016-10-22 22:20:38] BTCDJS : ima go to bed
[2016-10-22 22:20:53] BTCDJS : love ya
[2016-10-22 22:21:45] BTCDJS : in a universal way. not a personal way. so don't get too excited. You're still alone in the world and nobody cares about you
[2016-10-22 22:24:47] justinlooking : yo BitMEX_Sam are u here?
[2016-10-22 22:25:36] justinlooking : could u generate a swagger go client plz
[2016-10-22 22:32:23] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Sure
[2016-10-22 22:32:49] BitMEX_Sam : You'll have to implement auth yourself, the generator projects only do endpoint & model boilerplate
[2016-10-22 22:32:57] BitMEX_Sam : See https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/tree/master/clients/go
[2016-10-22 22:34:14] justinlooking : thanks, sorry didn't spot that
[2016-10-22 22:34:35] BitMEX_Sam : No worries. You might be able to find other Go projects that consume swagger JSON as well
[2016-10-22 22:35:28] BitMEX_Sam : For instance, https://goswagger.io/generate/client.html
[2016-10-22 22:35:41] BitMEX_Sam : You can get the raw JSON from https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/swagger.json
[2016-10-22 22:43:16] Rado : BTC holding pretty good
[2016-10-22 22:45:26] zanza : this seems to be a Finex price spike
[2016-10-22 22:45:29] zanza : anyone agree?
[2016-10-22 22:46:09] sleger : depends what that is supposed to mean
[2016-10-22 22:46:17] zanza : Finex back to about 1/3 peak volume
[2016-10-22 22:47:38] j8 : surely it was china behind the move, and finex got bid up because there's no liquidity
[2016-10-22 22:48:49] Rado : zanza: I think it's Yuan devaluation
[2016-10-22 22:49:11] sleger : of course it is
[2016-10-22 22:49:32] j8 : yep
[2016-10-22 22:50:54] Rado : I am actually surprised Bitfinex volume is this high after the hack
[2016-10-22 22:51:20] Rado : 10k in the last 24h
[2016-10-22 22:53:12] Rado : sleger: what are you trading at the moment?
[2016-10-22 23:04:15] sleger : same as usual, btc and eth almost exclusively
[2016-10-22 23:04:59] aethlios : bitfinex bitmex top 2 for btcusd pair
[2016-10-22 23:12:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: we should be compared to futures not spot
[2016-10-22 23:13:56] j8 : sleger: still short ZEC?
[2016-10-22 23:14:16] rapidtrades : Rado: u shouldn't be, they fake the volume
[2016-10-22 23:14:25] rapidtrades : might as well say 20k
[2016-10-22 23:14:36] sleger : j8: no
[2016-10-22 23:14:46] rapidtrades : ha!
[2016-10-22 23:15:01] rapidtrades : they beat u
[2016-10-22 23:15:06] j8 : i stopped out for now also.
[2016-10-22 23:15:16] sleger : waiting for go live and sell higher
[2016-10-22 23:15:18] rapidtrades : they beat u too
[2016-10-22 23:15:22] rapidtrades : j8
[2016-10-22 23:15:26] j8 : let the idiots have their way
[2016-10-22 23:15:56] j8 : gotta pick your battles
[2016-10-22 23:15:57] rapidtrades : hey most ppl here count their stash in BTC
[2016-10-22 23:16:01] rapidtrades : how's the idiots
[2016-10-22 23:16:16] rapidtrades : are BTC and zCash really that far apart :)
[2016-10-22 23:18:02] j8 : i'm not a zcash hater, i would buy some, but i can wait a few months or more for the supply to catch up with the hype
[2016-10-22 23:20:01] billyboy402 : What the funding rate on eth mobile doesn't show it
[2016-10-22 23:20:28] rapidtrades : -0.08
[2016-10-22 23:23:32] BitMEX_Sam : billyboy402: It is shown, you have to unfold the Control Details tab under the order controls, though.
[2016-10-22 23:23:48] rapidtrades : billyboy402: btw YOU'RE WELCOME
[2016-10-22 23:23:57] rapidtrades : f douche
[2016-10-22 23:24:12] billyboy402 : Cheers
[2016-10-22 23:26:17] billyboy402 : Oh I see it . On PC it show it up the top with a clock . Mobile site is still a little ugly
[2016-10-22 23:26:22] billyboy402 : thx
[2016-10-22 23:29:13] rapidtrades : sleger: been a good year for option selling eh?
[2016-10-22 23:31:24] sleger : yes
[2016-10-22 23:32:30] rapidtrades : so fellas we go up to china or china goes down to our level?
[2016-10-22 23:33:15] rapidtrades : $11 premium atm
[2016-10-22 23:34:18] Velancry : rapidtrades: we always stay below
[2016-10-22 23:34:51] rapidtrades : not always no
[2016-10-22 23:34:53] j8 : china just goes totally flat after moves like this. it's kinda crazy
[2016-10-22 23:35:03] rapidtrades : only lately
[2016-10-22 23:35:45] rapidtrades : $31 premium on dec futures seems excessive
[2016-10-22 23:36:50] rapidtrades : here it's like $29...still a lot
[2016-10-22 23:38:49] j8 : difference is, the possible CNY deval will be corrected for in the long run. whereas you are actually short JPY if you buy here
[2016-10-22 23:38:55] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: is the PnL part of ADL position specific or account wide?
[2016-10-22 23:52:38] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Per-position
[2016-10-22 23:53:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: let's make it per account?
[2016-10-22 23:53:41] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: I have a pending deposit with more than one confirm and still not in my balance. When will it become available
[2016-10-22 23:53:57] rapidtrades : or per currency....like BTC, ETH etc
[2016-10-22 23:53:59] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: I'm looking into it now
[2016-10-22 23:54:13] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: awesome, thx.
[2016-10-22 23:54:33] rapidtrades : so we can arbs the Yens easier....cos let's face it, noone wants that currency exposure
[2016-10-22 23:59:25] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: You're good to go
[2016-10-22 23:59:38] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for your help.
[2016-10-23 00:02:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 196 @ 0.00589
[2016-10-23 00:04:48] Velancry : we just broke it ;O
[2016-10-23 00:11:16] qualquer : The Fees in the "Reference" page are up to date?
[2016-10-23 00:13:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2016-10-23 00:18:04] wurstgelee : this is the best type of bitcoin.
[2016-10-23 00:18:17] wurstgelee : the one that goes up while i am long and out having drinks
[2016-10-23 00:18:30] martinium : @BitMEX_Arthur does bitmex have a slack or only IRC channel?
[2016-10-23 00:20:16] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/support
[2016-10-23 00:20:40] BitMEX_Arthur : martinium: info about the IRC channel is there
[2016-10-23 00:21:13] martinium : yeah I see it I was asking whether you also have a slack group or only the IRC
[2016-10-23 00:21:25] Velancry : 4555 here we go
[2016-10-23 00:24:33] mjones : double topping.
[2016-10-23 00:25:37] mjones : new high.
[2016-10-23 00:25:42] mjones : lets get another round of margin calls going
[2016-10-23 00:25:45] Velancry : mjones: happy ending
[2016-10-23 00:26:17] mjones : ltc/btc almost new low for first time in 3 1/2 years
[2016-10-23 00:28:12] sleger : wow
[2016-10-23 00:28:29] sleger : someone bought up to 682
[2016-10-23 00:28:33] Velancry : if this continue I have doubled my wallet today
[2016-10-23 00:29:15] Bacon futures trader : lmao
[2016-10-23 00:29:33] Shoes : I bought market went to 671
[2016-10-23 00:29:48] sleger : someone market bought around 260k contracts
[2016-10-23 00:29:50] j8 : wow
[2016-10-23 00:29:57] Velancry : shit
[2016-10-23 00:30:07] Shoes : Lets go baby
[2016-10-23 00:30:10] sleger : i sold some ar 680, thanks
[2016-10-23 00:30:28] wurstgelee : the fomo is strong
[2016-10-23 00:30:30] j8 : was too slow for that
[2016-10-23 00:30:38] wurstgelee : so are my drinks
[2016-10-23 00:30:45] wurstgelee : a perfect storm
[2016-10-23 00:30:46] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-23 00:30:47] martinium : that was a monster spike
[2016-10-23 00:30:48] Shoes : Lol
[2016-10-23 00:30:52] martinium : beautiful
[2016-10-23 00:30:54] MCT : not to self, keep a crazy order open
[2016-10-23 00:31:48] wurstgelee : so...who did panic-market-close his massive long?
[2016-10-23 00:31:50] Shoes : No real dip today this is nice
[2016-10-23 00:32:01] sleger : wurstgelee: think again
[2016-10-23 00:32:02] wurstgelee : short ofc
[2016-10-23 00:32:09] sleger : voila
[2016-10-23 00:32:12] wurstgelee : yeah sorry, brain works,fingers dont
[2016-10-23 00:32:32] j8 : did open interest go up or down from that?
[2016-10-23 00:33:26] justinlooking : up by about 250xbt
[2016-10-23 00:34:14] j8 : good to know
[2016-10-23 00:34:33] Bacon futures trader : do these spikes get corrected?
[2016-10-23 00:34:43] wurstgelee : corrected?
[2016-10-23 00:34:46] Bacon futures trader : Because it's not showing anymore on my chart
[2016-10-23 00:34:53] wurstgelee : whats that supposed to mean?
[2016-10-23 00:35:01] Bacon futures trader : and also not in the recent trades
[2016-10-23 00:35:09] Bacon futures trader : that 680$ spike
[2016-10-23 00:35:15] sleger : its there
[2016-10-23 00:35:19] BitMEX_Sam : Sure it is, keep scrolling
[2016-10-23 00:35:21] justinlooking : i see it
[2016-10-23 00:35:26] martinium : I see it also
[2016-10-23 00:35:26] wurstgelee : it does show up in recent trades
[2016-10-23 00:35:37] sleger : Bacon futures trader: switch away from ZEC back to xbt
[2016-10-23 00:35:59] wurstgelee : also "corrected" would either mean undone or removed. bouth would be the last things i saw here. ;
[2016-10-23 00:36:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 00:36:07] wurstgelee : *-u
[2016-10-23 00:36:25] martinium : whoever caused that spike with a market order I love you
[2016-10-23 00:37:10] Bacon futures trader : Ah yeah, still in the recent trades
[2016-10-23 00:37:16] Bacon futures trader : but chart looks corrected
[2016-10-23 00:37:45] wurstgelee : no?
[2016-10-23 00:37:52] BitMEX_Sam : Nope, there's no "correction"
[2016-10-23 00:37:57] martinium : nope
[2016-10-23 00:37:58] BitMEX_Sam : Check where you're scrolled to and/or your interval
[2016-10-23 00:38:56] Bacon futures trader : Ah yeah it's showing up on the 5 minute
[2016-10-23 00:38:58] Bacon futures trader : my bad
[2016-10-23 00:40:21] wurstgelee : whoever gets nmc'ed with a big short on ZEC next and makes me get ADL'ed: FU, Sir!
[2016-10-23 00:40:25] wurstgelee : in advance
[2016-10-23 00:40:27] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-23 00:40:31] wurstgelee : *-n
[2016-10-23 00:42:27] aethlios : we are going up big, no sleep for next 30 days.
[2016-10-23 00:42:36] mjones : lol
[2016-10-23 00:43:50] Shoes : Lol lets wait for 4600 to break
[2016-10-23 00:44:12] Shoes : Last time we blew theough the 4000's cny
[2016-10-23 00:47:20] aethlios : we need an alt index future. can bitmex create one??
[2016-10-23 00:54:28] mjones : it happened LTC/BTC 0.0058
[2016-10-23 01:03:07] wurstgelee : so..ltc is finally dying?
[2016-10-23 01:06:04] aethlios : wurstgelee: ltcusd going up. whales condolidate, they will pump to 50 when btc >1000
[2016-10-23 01:09:16] wurstgelee : lol. maybe, maybe not. last time i traded ltc it was 1:30 vs btc iirc. i am done with it ever since.
[2016-10-23 01:09:17] wurstgelee : have fun :)
[2016-10-23 01:12:05] aethlios : 2nd most secure puplic blockchain, no premine scam, well known dev. It's a matter of time big guys who will think btc expensive, to buy ltc and develop the coin.
[2016-10-23 01:14:28] sleger : lol ?
[2016-10-23 01:14:31] wurstgelee : i disagree but cba to elabortate tbh
[2016-10-23 01:14:37] wurstgelee : *elaborate
[2016-10-23 01:14:42] wurstgelee : cause drinks
[2016-10-23 01:15:21] wurstgelee : i should emphazize this more: i storngly disagree
[2016-10-23 01:15:26] wurstgelee : *typos
[2016-10-23 01:15:51] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GAbb5KLi/
[2016-10-23 01:16:00] aethlios : my LTCUSD perspective.
[2016-10-23 01:16:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 75000 @ 0.00001322
[2016-10-23 01:16:42] wurstgelee : where's the most recnt dump in this chart?
[2016-10-23 01:17:05] mjones : if ltc pumps again then nice money to be made over on 0kcoin 20x
[2016-10-23 01:17:30] aethlios : wurstgelee: what dump, it is a long term chart.
[2016-10-23 01:18:00] wurstgelee : yes, great. it did break down tho
[2016-10-23 01:18:07] wurstgelee : below your pretty lines
[2016-10-23 01:18:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 01:18:27] aethlios : this is ltcusd, not ltcbtc
[2016-10-23 01:20:16] wurstgelee : indeed, it is
[2016-10-23 01:20:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 01:22:42] aethlios : wurstgelee: whales accumulate, they keep the volatility dead and miners sell to them their coins to pay electricity. Most coins are mined first 8 years, when they accumulate enough % of total supply then pump it hard to sell to believers above 40, they keep volatility dead so traders don't get interested and don't buy positions.
[2016-10-23 01:23:48] aethlios : this is how large capital holders think and work, they create the moves from which we small fishes earn profit.
[2016-10-23 01:26:57] aethlios : if btc pumps above 1000, NO WAY ltc whales will lose the opportunity to pump the coin.
[2016-10-23 01:28:59] wurstgelee : Most coins are mined first 8 years
[2016-10-23 01:29:00] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-23 01:29:02] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-23 01:29:09] simonl1978 : is there an APP to login the site?
[2016-10-23 01:30:52] aethlios : 75% mined first 8 years.
[2016-10-23 01:33:24] wurstgelee : how many coins do u know that got mined for 8 years until today?
[2016-10-23 01:33:47] wurstgelee : "most" is just funny in this context, thats all ;)
[2016-10-23 01:34:28] wurstgelee : *hint: the answer is: zero ;)
[2016-10-23 01:38:44] seshbb : i think he's talking about 75% of litecoin mined in 8 years
[2016-10-23 01:39:13] aethlios : seshbb: true.
[2016-10-23 01:40:11] aethlios : monero was for 2 years in tight range, when supply 75% was mined then they pumped.
[2016-10-23 01:41:39] seshbb : i'll eat a hat if bitcoin launches and litecoin doesn't follow
[2016-10-23 01:41:58] aethlios : english not my native language
[2016-10-23 01:46:52] wurstgelee : why would the percentage of total coins mined have any influence? from a pump&dump perspective, it's about the percentage of the current supply the participating parties hold
[2016-10-23 01:48:37] aethlios : wurstgelee: it is cheaper then to control the price in higher levels, you don't have many miners dumping to you.
[2016-10-23 01:48:52] wurstgelee : yes, but if u hold 10%, u hold 10%
[2016-10-23 01:49:08] wurstgelee : it doesnt matter if its 10% of 1m or 1 bn or whatever else
[2016-10-23 01:49:54] aethlios : the more % of supply you hold the easier for you to manipulate the coin.
[2016-10-23 01:50:14] wurstgelee : yes, the more % u hold!
[2016-10-23 01:50:15] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-23 01:50:49] wurstgelee : it doesnt matter if u hold 10% after 1 year with amybe 20% of total coins mined or if u hold 20% of 100% coins mined
[2016-10-23 01:51:01] wurstgelee : *maybe
[2016-10-23 01:52:05] wurstgelee : 10% also
[2016-10-23 01:52:11] wurstgelee : otherwise it makes no sense
[2016-10-23 01:52:50] aethlios : anyway, my point is ltc could look dead (no volatility) but this maybe happens because whales accumulate.
[2016-10-23 04:20:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 655.06
[2016-10-23 04:50:06] +1 : BitMEX_Sam: Is BitMEX in China already? I mean it is said that it will be marketed on early October. How was it?
[2016-10-23 06:19:45] zanza : BitMex is anywhere the internet is
[2016-10-23 06:19:50] zanza : i think they are working on translation tho
[2016-10-23 06:20:06] zanza : just click the top right for Language
[2016-10-23 06:51:31] +1 : zanza: Thanks.
[2016-10-23 07:03:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 500 @ 68390
[2016-10-23 07:14:44] laisee : Estimates for ZEC pump when it gors live?
[2016-10-23 08:30:02] TA : laisee: I think it's already too pumped up atm
[2016-10-23 10:12:12] laisee : TA says sell?
[2016-10-23 10:16:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19615 @ 653.29
[2016-10-23 10:16:48] TA : laisee: well.. imagine 1 zec selling for 0.2x btc .. do you think zec will launch at that price ? No.. it will be much much lower imo
[2016-10-23 10:21:49] habibi : u mean hiogher?
[2016-10-23 10:35:36] laisee : hmmm. tight squeeze on listing as mining is limited.
[2016-10-23 10:40:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2800 @ 653.05
[2016-10-23 10:57:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1668 @ 651.79
[2016-10-23 10:57:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14000 @ 651.76
[2016-10-23 11:04:07] Velancry : below 4496. i
[2016-10-23 11:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3450 @ 651.41
[2016-10-23 11:06:06] Kalman : Velancry: got rekt?
[2016-10-23 11:07:19] Velancry : Kalman: no I was prepared.
[2016-10-23 11:07:37] Velancry : Im short
[2016-10-23 11:16:26] rapidtrades : nasty funding coming up
[2016-10-23 11:18:15] Velancry : rapidtrades: what do you mean ?
[2016-10-23 11:20:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 649.84
[2016-10-23 11:20:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 222 @ 649.77
[2016-10-23 11:23:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 648.85
[2016-10-23 11:23:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 590 @ 648.72
[2016-10-23 11:23:34] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2016-10-23 11:23:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 81010 @ 648.37 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-10-23 11:23:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5412 @ 647.19
[2016-10-23 11:24:51] Velancry : 81k shits going down
[2016-10-23 11:25:10] rapidtrades : a discount
[2016-10-23 11:25:18] rapidtrades : a f discount
[2016-10-23 11:27:39] AudibleScience : I wonder if that epic rekt was the same guy that put a huge market order in at 1:27 this morning?
[2016-10-23 11:28:34] AudibleScience : rapidtrades: this funding round and the next estimated one is all it took man.
[2016-10-23 11:50:46] denistern : Hi all
[2016-10-23 11:50:51] billyboy402 : denistern: hi
[2016-10-23 11:50:59] denistern : Can i deposid zec?
[2016-10-23 11:51:11] justinlooking : lol gl with that
[2016-10-23 11:51:18] billyboy402 : Liquidated long on XBTUSD: Sell 81010 @ 648.37 EPIC REKT I guerss that is what push the price to 680
[2016-10-23 11:52:39] billyboy402 : denistern: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview " BitMEX is a derivatives exchange that offers leveraged contracts that are bought and sold in Bitcoin. BitMEX only handles Bitcoin. All profit and loss is in Bitcoin, even if you’re buying and selling altcoin contracts. BitMEX does not handle fiat currency."
[2016-10-23 11:53:17] martinium : The 81k liquidated was my order while I slept. Still in profit for the week
[2016-10-23 11:53:27] denistern : Thank
[2016-10-23 11:53:49] denistern : Anybody have wallet to zec?
[2016-10-23 11:53:49] martinium : was not the order that caused that spike earlier in the week
[2016-10-23 11:54:07] martinium : hehe
[2016-10-23 12:26:51] eth2mars : Is there anyway I can keep the new order on top of the existing order instead of making a new account?
[2016-10-23 12:31:30] BitMEX_Wally : eth2mars: I am not sure what you mean, but you can have multiple open orders using 1 account
[2016-10-23 12:33:13] eth2mars : BitMEX_Wally: oh thanks. i meant on the same product such as XBT7D. The order gets mixed up (averaged?) with the existing order?
[2016-10-23 12:34:36] wurstgelee : no
[2016-10-23 12:35:10] wurstgelee : eth2mars: do u have order grouping on?
[2016-10-23 12:35:13] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 12:35:33] eth2mars : wurstgelee: could you please tell me where the option is?
[2016-10-23 12:35:47] eth2mars : wurstgelee: i think you nailed it
[2016-10-23 12:35:57] wurstgelee : top right of orderbook
[2016-10-23 12:35:58] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 12:36:10] eth2mars : wurstgelee: maybe i was playing around and forgot.
[2016-10-23 12:36:20] wurstgelee : probably =)
[2016-10-23 12:37:29] eth2mars : wurstgelee: well my question was actually 'open positions'. the new order doesn't make a new entry. it mixes with the old one.
[2016-10-23 12:37:57] wurstgelee : oh, yes
[2016-10-23 12:41:10] eth2mars : wurstgelee: hmm... so this is normal. if i want my new order separate i should make a new account? no subaccount here, right?
[2016-10-23 12:41:39] eth2mars : wurstgelee: i want to keep my old order and don't want the old liquidation price move
[2016-10-23 12:42:07] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-10-23 12:42:09] wurstgelee : :|
[2016-10-23 12:48:21] eth2mars : wurstgelee: thanks ;-) happy trading
[2016-10-23 13:08:21] mjones : never seen so many open contracts on XBJ7D
[2016-10-23 13:08:48] mjones : that's good though. more liquidity
[2016-10-23 14:09:21] rapidtrades : guys don't fight
[2016-10-23 14:14:40] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-10-23 14:24:00] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you call that fighting?
[2016-10-23 14:46:16] fml : Wow what bullshit
[2016-10-23 14:46:35] fml : Hit 640 here liquidated me when btc nvr moved that far down
[2016-10-23 14:46:54] fml : So shady
[2016-10-23 14:48:27] wurstgelee : at which price did u get liquidated? and when?
[2016-10-23 14:49:47] sleger : fml: fyl
[2016-10-23 14:50:20] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-23 14:50:33] sleger : dont see any trade at 640 though
[2016-10-23 14:50:51] wurstgelee : sleger: hence my question ;)
[2016-10-23 14:52:11] BitMEX_Sam : fml: Liquidations are done on the underlying index price, not the last price here
[2016-10-23 14:52:29] BitMEX_Sam : This generally prevents liquidations & manipulation here by requiring a would-be manipulator to manipulate the entire index, not just our market
[2016-10-23 14:53:07] BitMEX_Sam : It also prevents liquidations during large market buys, such as the one about 12 hours ago.
[2016-10-23 14:53:34] wurstgelee : wondering if that was fomo or a fatfinger...
[2016-10-23 14:53:38] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-23 14:56:17] sleger : so index reached 640 but lowest traded 5$ above ? during a spike down ? weird
[2016-10-23 14:57:27] Kalman : https://www.kaiko.com/price-index/us
[2016-10-23 14:57:54] sleger : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-10-23 14:57:55] BitMEX_Sam : Actually, no, the index never hit 640, @fml check the liquidation price that was stated in your email
[2016-10-23 14:58:14] wurstgelee : ...... yes. ;)
[2016-10-23 14:58:25] wurstgelee : there no way he was liquidated @ 640
[2016-10-23 14:58:29] wurstgelee : *is
[2016-10-23 14:58:55] BitMEX_Sam : Right. Most likely the issue was the 0.3251% funding on XBTUSD.
[2016-10-23 14:59:01] wurstgelee : :D yep
[2016-10-23 15:16:47] PurpleCobras : whis is lisk
[2016-10-23 15:17:51] sleger : whis ?
[2016-10-23 15:19:14] BTCDJS : what is whis?
[2016-10-23 15:19:30] wurstgelee : whis!
[2016-10-23 15:19:32] sleger : what
[2016-10-23 15:19:57] wurstgelee : what whis?
[2016-10-23 15:20:04] BTCDJS : exactly
[2016-10-23 15:20:10] wurstgelee : k
[2016-10-23 15:20:23] sleger : when chinese come here it's gonna be a daily question
[2016-10-23 15:20:42] wurstgelee : whis is lisk?
[2016-10-23 15:20:57] wurstgelee : on a daily basis?
[2016-10-23 15:21:30] BTCDJS : whis is what?
[2016-10-23 15:23:17] wurstgelee : PurpleCobras know
[2016-10-23 15:24:18] BTCDJS : what? whis?
[2016-10-23 15:25:44] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-10-23 15:59:32] laisee : lisk should be managed
[2016-10-23 17:22:59] mjones : damn someone dumping btc a bit
[2016-10-23 17:23:17] wurstgelee : <3
[2016-10-23 19:00:51] aethlios : question to bitmex: do you plan to reduce leverage to x50 for btcusd if huge bull run happens?? or because of new ADL system you don't need to do that.
[2016-10-23 19:15:46] martinium : STRML: is there any way to set price alerts on the bitmex platform?
[2016-10-23 19:15:58] martinium : would be really cool if we could do that via the chart or manually
[2016-10-23 19:16:24] martinium : via sms, email and platform alert
[2016-10-23 19:16:27] aethlios : I say this bevcause the premium cap now is 3 times less (0.375% from 1.125%) and the leverage twice, so the market could trade to a perma premium for a longer period in a bullish trend because of cheap cost to go long, how this will affect adl system??
[2016-10-23 19:23:03] BitMEX_Sam : aethlios: The main concern with trading consistently above mark is that liquidations can't get cleared and generate more & more DPE, with ADL this is not a concern
[2016-10-23 19:23:26] BitMEX_Sam : While it makes trading a bit confusing (traders see immediate negative UPL) it is still possible when last deviates significantly from mark
[2016-10-23 19:23:45] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: It is not possible at this time, I am working on a notification rework on the backend that should enable this
[2016-10-23 19:23:54] BitMEX_Sam : In the meantime I would suggest using cryptowatch or coinigy price alerts