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[2016-10-22 17:13:58] Rado : talk to you later guys
[2016-10-22 17:14:06] Rado : going to get out to get some air
[2016-10-22 17:14:30] dasdfasdf : no time for air
[2016-10-22 17:14:34] Rado : ?
[2016-10-22 17:15:37] +1 : Rado: Thanks for the tip. Will learn XBJ soon.
[2016-10-22 17:16:26] RocketScience : If Japan declares another QE and USD/JPY rises back to 120, then you automatically have +15% gains
[2016-10-22 17:19:24] arbitrage001 : btc would be seen as tulip if it crash down the road
[2016-10-22 17:19:44] arbitrage001 : 1 dollar btc
[2016-10-22 17:20:28] dasdfasdf : Why even 1 dollar?
[2016-10-22 17:20:51] arbitrage001 : 1 cents?
[2016-10-22 17:21:09] arbitrage001 : or ask or 1 cents with no bid?
[2016-10-22 17:21:14] arbitrage001 : ask of
[2016-10-22 17:21:19] dasdfasdf : hah there you go
[2016-10-22 17:21:33] aethlios : also my bid at 0.0071 for monero, to rebuy back.
[2016-10-22 17:21:47] rapidtrades : we already had several tulip mania type crashes
[2016-10-22 17:21:55] rapidtrades : remember $30 >$2?
[2016-10-22 17:22:03] rapidtrades : and $1000 to $160
[2016-10-22 17:22:22] rapidtrades : next time it may not recover
[2016-10-22 17:22:42] RocketScience : it will always recover
[2016-10-22 17:22:44] +1 : arbitrage001: You think BTC can really go that low?
[2016-10-22 17:25:04] arbitrage001 : +1: anything is possible
[2016-10-22 17:26:06] arbitrage001 : +1: we have seen many 6 sigma events in the last 10 years
[2016-10-22 17:26:19] rapidtrades : 'it will always recover'
[2016-10-22 17:26:28] rapidtrades : ^can u believe that shit
[2016-10-22 17:26:39] arbitrage001 : which is only suppose to happen once every few millions years
[2016-10-22 17:26:42] poes : btc is so overrated
[2016-10-22 17:26:56] poes : its a software product thats not production ready
[2016-10-22 17:27:10] poes : its not even secure, and fully decentral
[2016-10-22 17:27:29] rapidtrades : it's secure enough
[2016-10-22 17:27:43] rapidtrades : at least on the network side
[2016-10-22 17:28:20] poes : on the other hand it can always include technologies used by altcoins in the future and it has the biggest market cap
[2016-10-22 17:29:26] dasdfasdf : not production ready?
[2016-10-22 17:29:27] poes : but thanks to the mining pools its not fully decentralized yet
[2016-10-22 17:29:43] poes : its just that there isnt any better alternative
[2016-10-22 17:29:54] poes : and there is such big demand for it
[2016-10-22 17:29:55] dasdfasdf : Like everthing
[2016-10-22 17:31:09] MrRGnome : poes: A blockchain using PoW is an economic security model. Bitcoin by an enormous margin has the most secure economic security model
[2016-10-22 17:31:40] poes : MrRGnome: i agree, mining pools though
[2016-10-22 17:33:40] poes : mining pools, asic mining farms, transaction limit, transactions not instant, if these things are fixed bitcoin price would skyrocket
[2016-10-22 17:33:59] poes : the risk though
[2016-10-22 17:34:27] dasdfasdf : segwit and lightningn is what will take this to 1100 and beyond. as they bring instant payments and unlimited* transactoins
[2016-10-22 17:34:54] dasdfasdf : ASIC is good as the only thing the machines can be used for is BTC.
[2016-10-22 17:36:10] +1 : arbitrage001: sorry, what is 6 sigma? Tried google but not simple enough
[2016-10-22 17:37:13] sleger : sigma = standard dev
[2016-10-22 17:39:05] +1 : sleger: and what does the number 6 mean?
[2016-10-22 17:39:18] sleger : it's the one between 5 and 6
[2016-10-22 17:39:22] sleger : *5 and 7
[2016-10-22 17:40:08] +1 : sleger: LOL -- serious man
[2016-10-22 17:40:24] sleger : "serious" ??
[2016-10-22 17:40:30] sleger : and your question is "and what does the number 6 mean?"
[2016-10-22 17:40:54] dasdfasdf : What does the 6 mean in "6 sigma"
[2016-10-22 17:40:56] sleger : what does the letter F mean
[2016-10-22 17:41:00] +1 : sleger: the number 6 before the word sigma
[2016-10-22 17:41:09] sleger : it means six
[2016-10-22 17:41:12] +1 : dasdfasdf: yes, tq
[2016-10-22 17:41:17] dasdfasdf : sleger: ah
[2016-10-22 17:41:17] dasdfasdf : ok
[2016-10-22 17:41:19] dasdfasdf : thanks
[2016-10-22 17:41:36] dasdfasdf : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma
[2016-10-22 17:41:40] +1 : sleger: and if it is...3?
[2016-10-22 17:41:59] sleger : dasdfasdf: that page has nothing to do with it
[2016-10-22 17:41:59] dasdfasdf : What is an example of a 6 sigma event?
[2016-10-22 17:42:31] sleger : dasdfasdf: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=6+sigma+events
[2016-10-22 17:42:54] dasdfasdf : You guys are so fun
[2016-10-22 17:43:01] rapidtrades : the odds for those X-sigma events are calculated on normal distribution...which the markets are not
[2016-10-22 17:43:21] rapidtrades : in short, they're a BS stat
[2016-10-22 17:44:40] dasdfasdf : twice in a billion
[2016-10-22 17:46:20] +1 : sleger: fuck thats funny! lmgtfy.com i'm going to pass it on
[2016-10-22 17:46:43] +1 : what the hell
[2016-10-22 17:47:04] +1 : i think i wrote the F word?
[2016-10-22 17:47:19] +1 : LOL
[2016-10-22 17:47:31] dasdfasdf : try okcoin*
[2016-10-22 17:47:35] dasdfasdf : okcoinn
[2016-10-22 17:47:40] dasdfasdf : okcoin>
[2016-10-22 17:47:42] mjones : fuck okcoin
[2016-10-22 17:47:50] +1 : pussy
[2016-10-22 17:47:51] dasdfasdf : okkcoin
[2016-10-22 17:48:08] dasdfasdf : bitstamp
[2016-10-22 17:48:18] +1 : oops.. what is the woodchipper?
[2016-10-22 17:48:25] RocketScience : 0kcoin
[2016-10-22 17:48:30] RocketScience : try writing ok.coin together
[2016-10-22 17:48:44] +1 : okcoin
[2016-10-22 17:48:54] +1 : hahaha
[2016-10-22 17:49:02] rapidtrades : now try the N-word
[2016-10-22 17:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2 @ 0.01834
[2016-10-22 17:49:14] +1 : nigger
[2016-10-22 17:49:20] +1 : LOL
[2016-10-22 17:49:21] rapidtrades : brave man ^
[2016-10-22 17:50:20] +1 : I still am laughing
[2016-10-22 17:50:37] dasdfasdf : nigga
[2016-10-22 17:50:40] dasdfasdf : nigger
[2016-10-22 17:51:00] sleger : niggar
[2016-10-22 17:51:01] +1 : Who put this up? I'm sure it's not arthur kah3x
[2016-10-22 18:04:16] dasdfasdf : Will stamp break 650?
[2016-10-22 18:04:41] mjones : glad to see bitcoin/yen going up
[2016-10-22 18:05:15] mjones : looks like the market maker on every friday reached his limit
[2016-10-22 18:30:16] BTCDJS : +1: -1. Not cool
[2016-10-22 18:31:17] +1 : BTCDJS: what is?
[2016-10-22 18:32:38] BTCDJS : You know what you did
[2016-10-22 18:35:52] +1 : BTCDJS: Sorry if I hurt you or anyone else.
[2016-10-22 18:36:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 98 @ 0.01823
[2016-10-22 18:36:35] mjones : down goes eth
[2016-10-22 18:39:18] dasdfasdf : after 12 dollars where does it stop?
[2016-10-22 18:58:22] Anon39 : how long is the "trading session"?
[2016-10-22 18:58:59] justinlooking : 8h\
[2016-10-22 18:59:48] Anon39 : 8h for all trading pair?
[2016-10-22 19:00:33] RocketScience : for swaps
[2016-10-22 19:01:05] RocketScience : 7 days futures are seven days and so on
[2016-10-22 19:01:40] Anon39 : seems like zcash is 24h?
[2016-10-22 19:01:59] RocketScience : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ZEC
[2016-10-22 19:02:08] RocketScience : i don't know
[2016-10-22 19:03:12] Anon39 : thanks i guess it start after every rebalance
[2016-10-22 20:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 125000 @ 655.29 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-10-22 20:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 26209 @ 656.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-22 20:08:21] aethlios : so now because we have x100 leverage the max funding is 0.375% every 8 hours??? (1%-0.5%)*75%= 0.375% can someone confirm??
[2016-10-22 20:10:40] j8 : aethlios: yeah i was just looking at that. it seems so. big change from 1.125% when it was 50x
[2016-10-22 20:11:34] arbitrage001 : where is the info?
[2016-10-22 20:11:43] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-10-22 20:12:57] arbitrage001 : i stiill reas it as 1.125
[2016-10-22 20:13:04] arbitrage001 : read
[2016-10-22 20:13:13] j8 : i don't
[2016-10-22 20:13:24] aethlios : arbitrage001: the example they have is with x50
[2016-10-22 20:14:09] aethlios : that's why predicted is stable 0.375% now
[2016-10-22 20:14:18] arbitrage001 : the cap said 1.125
[2016-10-22 20:14:33] j8 : just means they'll have to lower the leverage again if 0.375% is not enough
[2016-10-22 20:14:35] arbitrage001 : which take 3 funding period to reach
[2016-10-22 20:15:02] j8 : $1. The absolute Funding Rate is capped at 75% of the Initial Margin - Maintenance Margin.$
[2016-10-22 20:15:34] j8 : ignore those $'s
[2016-10-22 20:15:35] arbitrage001 : i dont think they take changing leverage into account
[2016-10-22 20:15:37] +1 : on 20th we had more than 0.375% https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-10-22 20:16:20] aethlios : @+1 no, look 8hour, not the daily.
[2016-10-22 20:17:36] +1 : aethlios: oops ;)
[2016-10-22 20:18:39] aethlios : this could create a "permanent" premium in a bull market, because cheaper cost to long and higher leverage.
[2016-10-22 20:18:58] aethlios : longs are much better now.
[2016-10-22 20:19:20] j8 : permanent until they change things.. that's what happened last time
[2016-10-22 20:19:39] aethlios : can have double position with same capital and 1/3 of the cost to long, so 6 times better.
[2016-10-22 20:21:40] j8 : really 1% a day should be plenty, but people are crazy.. before we had over 1% per 8 hours for a couple days
[2016-10-22 20:23:00] aethlios : yes I agree is much more fair now, 1.125% daily is good compensation for arbitragers to offer liq. and bulls can have a decent profit too, so more liquidity for all.
[2016-10-22 20:24:24] j8 : the market kind of falls apart if it's trading away from the mark price for long periods though. liquidations will not clear and everyone will get ADL'd
[2016-10-22 20:26:20] arbitrage001 : .375 cap is too small on a strong directional market
[2016-10-22 20:26:45] arbitrage001 : last time, we had 3-5% premium for longer than a few days
[2016-10-22 20:30:13] j8 : 9000 yen spread on XBJZ16.. market maker is being shy
[2016-10-22 20:30:55] miramm1115 : j8: there is no MM, only my small bot left
[2016-10-22 20:31:52] j8 : there was someone quoting 10000's an hour or two ago, seems to hit his limit pretty fast
[2016-10-22 20:33:40] arbitrage001 : wish they add usd pair
[2016-10-22 20:33:48] arbitrage001 : for dec contract
[2016-10-22 20:36:07] BigDaddyBigDick : would be nice
[2016-10-22 20:36:14] habibi : and quantos*
[2016-10-22 20:39:59] Rado : arbitrage001: why does it matter if it's USD or JPY?
[2016-10-22 20:40:09] Rado : ibtrade both the same way
[2016-10-22 20:40:22] arbitrage001 : Rado: my brain cant swich
[2016-10-22 20:40:23] j8 : not if USD/JPY moves
[2016-10-22 20:40:29] Rado : unless you think there will be more MMs
[2016-10-22 20:40:47] arbitrage001 : and what j8 mentions
[2016-10-22 20:41:14] mjones : JPY price is lagging behind
[2016-10-22 20:41:20] j8 : it's sketchy to use one exchange as the index, and there is more liquidity in BTC/USD or BTC/CNY anyway
[2016-10-22 20:41:30] mjones : someone has been selling 1000 BTC keeping price low.
[2016-10-22 20:41:51] Rado : j8: I trade the instrument price, not BTC price
[2016-10-22 20:42:22] Rado : mjones: we need $10 correction so Incan close my small short ;)
[2016-10-22 20:42:27] arbitrage001 : Rado: hedgers need hedging instrument
[2016-10-22 20:43:06] j8 : ^ this. you can't hedge against BTC/JPY unless you withdraw in JPY
[2016-10-22 20:43:07] Rado : arbitrage001: true, it's harder to hedge
[2016-10-22 20:43:15] mjones : correction or this was 1st of 3 legs
[2016-10-22 20:44:13] Rado : j8: in theory you can hedge with BTC and usdjpy on currency market
[2016-10-22 20:44:31] j8 : sure, complicate my life
[2016-10-22 20:44:53] Rado : But I agree USD contract will be traded way more
[2016-10-22 20:45:16] Rado : Don't get why BitMEX is so stuck on JPY
[2016-10-22 20:45:32] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: The JPY conts are cross-traded on Quoine
[2016-10-22 20:46:05] BitMEX_Sam : So you can trade the same contracts here or there and hedge JPY delta if needed
[2016-10-22 20:46:44] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I know you need them for Quine deal, but that doesn't stop you from having USD contract as well
[2016-10-22 20:46:54] Rado : unless the deal doesn't allow you
[2016-10-22 20:47:12] BitMEX_Sam : No, has nothing to do with that - honestly, we found traders talk much more about wanting a USD quarterly than they actually trade it
[2016-10-22 20:47:26] BitMEX_Sam : Generally the quarterlies did not trade well.
[2016-10-22 20:47:52] BitMEX_Sam : We believe a JPY contract will trade more healthily due to the increased traffic from Quoine's userbase.
[2016-10-22 20:48:20] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: you can't judge by just listing them 2 times
[2016-10-22 20:48:23] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: increase traffic? have u seen any traffic from quoine's users on old quantos daily?
[2016-10-22 20:48:31] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: We've had USD quarterlies for the past few years
[2016-10-22 20:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Quoine's users are trading on Quoine's interface, but yes, we get a lot of signups from there
[2016-10-22 20:48:52] Rado : If you have November and December many people will trade spreads and the volume will increase
[2016-10-22 20:49:05] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially if you go to https://trade.quoine.com/ and click `FUTURES` in the header you get the XBJ markets.
[2016-10-22 20:49:35] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: how is Quoine volume?
[2016-10-22 20:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I'll bring it up with the other partners. I agree that JPY is not trading as well as we expected but I'm not certain that listing more instruments (and shoring liquidity for them) is the answer
[2016-10-22 20:49:50] BitMEX_Sam : As in, their spot volume, or XBJ?
[2016-10-22 20:49:51] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: i was trading that dailys and watching them pretty closely, didnt seen any good volume beside my own trading there up to 30k contracts limit of mm
[2016-10-22 20:49:52] j8 : i don't see the quarterly on quoine's interface.
[2016-10-22 20:50:41] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: just speaking for myself, but if there are more instruments I will trade more
[2016-10-22 20:50:51] Rado : let me give you an example
[2016-10-22 20:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You're correct. Their interface has been in flux, wonder what happened there.
[2016-10-22 20:50:53] BitMEX_Sam : I'll reach out to them.
[2016-10-22 20:51:34] Rado : I trade quarterly and swap, two different strategies
[2016-10-22 20:51:59] Rado : swap is not making me trade less of the quarterlies
[2016-10-22 20:52:11] Rado : if you add November I will trade even more
[2016-10-22 20:52:12] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, we're testing an order amend feature on https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-10-22 20:52:22] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Thanks for the feedback, I'll pass this on to the rest of the guys
[2016-10-22 20:52:26] BitMEX_Sam : We want to list what trades.
[2016-10-22 20:52:46] BitMEX_Sam : Re: Order Amend, if any of you have testnet accounts I'd love for you to try it before we roll it into the live site.
[2016-10-22 20:52:51] Rado : now I can't short on this pop because there is nothing to hedge against
[2016-10-22 20:52:58] Rado : only one long term contract
[2016-10-22 20:53:10] Rado : And swap doesn't work for that
[2016-10-22 20:53:38] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, I care a lot about ButMEX succeeding
[2016-10-22 20:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Appreciate that
[2016-10-22 20:54:00] Rado : there is no other place that allows me to trade like here
[2016-10-22 20:54:13] miramm1115 : old quarterly quantos had decent open value but daily volume was not that high, as expected for long-term contract
[2016-10-22 20:54:48] miramm1115 : the main problem for MM is offering enough liquidity on the ask side
[2016-10-22 20:55:03] miramm1115 : for quantos, shouldn't be a problem on inverse
[2016-10-22 20:56:49] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: i just checked out the amend feature, the buttons are huge and the input box is really narrow
[2016-10-22 20:58:18] j8 : actually, on the Active Orders panel the column expands. on the XBTUSD panel it didn't
[2016-10-22 20:58:27] BitMEX_Sam : Which browser?
[2016-10-22 20:58:47] j8 : chrome
[2016-10-22 20:59:14] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I see, we have to set a min width if you have a narrower viewport. Thanks
[2016-10-22 21:02:16] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: if my position is closed because of ADL do I get charged commission?
[2016-10-22 21:03:22] j8 : perhaps the stop trigger price could be amendable also
[2016-10-22 21:10:22] Rado : j8: from the API?
[2016-10-22 21:10:50] Rado : Right now you have to cancel the order if you want to change the stop price?
[2016-10-22 21:10:51] j8 : it's already possible by api
[2016-10-22 21:11:01] Rado : Oh
[2016-10-22 21:11:10] Rado : so in here
[2016-10-22 21:11:18] Rado : yes that will be nice
[2016-10-22 21:11:31] Rado : I change my stop all the time
[2016-10-22 21:15:45] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You can modify stop prices as well
[2016-10-22 21:20:39] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: did you see my question about ADL and commissions
[2016-10-22 21:21:01] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I believe you get the maker rebate on ADL, I will confirm that however
[2016-10-22 21:21:13] Velancry : how low can u go
[2016-10-22 21:22:01] Rado : Thanks
[2016-10-22 21:24:35] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I can confirm, you are marked as a maker when ADL'd.
[2016-10-22 21:25:37] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: it looked like the stop price could be amended but not the trigger price, for stop limit orders
[2016-10-22 21:25:59] BitMEX_Sam : j8: The triggering price just shows the current mark or last price
[2016-10-22 21:26:10] BitMEX_Sam : You can't switch strategies, that is true.
[2016-10-22 21:26:20] BitMEX_Sam : But you can change your stop price.
[2016-10-22 21:27:19] j8 : gotcha, my mistake
[2016-10-22 21:29:52] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: cool, that's fare
[2016-10-22 22:08:31] BTCDJS : Rado: fair*
[2016-10-22 22:09:30] BTCDJS : learn how to spell ya fucking want stain
[2016-10-22 22:09:39] BTCDJS : wank
[2016-10-22 22:09:51] BTCDJS : as in spunk
[2016-10-22 22:09:57] BTCDJS : jizz
[2016-10-22 22:10:01] BTCDJS : cum
[2016-10-22 22:11:09] BTCDJS : semen
[2016-10-22 22:11:43] BTCDJS : just joking.
[2016-10-22 22:12:41] hazir : ahh when will someone buy my zcash at 0.207 :D waiting for hours gosh
[2016-10-22 22:13:03] hazir : then will probably be bummed out crazy people drive it even higher
[2016-10-22 22:13:24] hazir : lol order filled. tank you chat :D
[2016-10-22 22:13:31] BTCDJS : felt like trolling. And raising your aggression levels for fun. But I have no opinion about you for or against at all.
[2016-10-22 22:13:44] hazir : *tank
[2016-10-22 22:13:50] hazir : *thankkk
[2016-10-22 22:14:03] BTCDJS : because you don't matter.
[2016-10-22 22:14:13] BTCDJS : trolling again...
[2016-10-22 22:14:22] mjones : i might trade zec on friday
[2016-10-22 22:14:30] mjones : a lot of people mining = higher price
[2016-10-22 22:14:40] BTCDJS : mjones: shut the fuck up
[2016-10-22 22:15:04] mjones : say that again BTCDJS i want to see something
[2016-10-22 22:15:13] BTCDJS : mjones: no
[2016-10-22 22:15:25] BTCDJS : see with your eyes
[2016-10-22 22:15:28] mjones : i think the notification that popped up said fuck in it
[2016-10-22 22:15:49] mjones : it said f_uck
[2016-10-22 22:15:52] BTCDJS : mjones: yeah you can't say F8ck
[2016-10-22 22:16:02] BTCDJS : fuck
[2016-10-22 22:16:10] mjones : BTCDJS: fuck fuck fuck
[2016-10-22 22:16:24] BTCDJS : mjones: fuck you too
[2016-10-22 22:16:36] BTCDJS : bitch and cunt are allowed tho
[2016-10-22 22:16:38] mjones : ok thank you
[2016-10-22 22:16:52] mjones : anyways back to making money
[2016-10-22 22:16:54] BTCDJS : ah no they changed cunt
[2016-10-22 22:17:04] BTCDJS : c*nt
[2016-10-22 22:17:09] BTCDJS : not kitten
[2016-10-22 22:17:19] BTCDJS : damn
[2016-10-22 22:17:30] BTCDJS : thats my favourite word whore
[2016-10-22 22:17:50] BTCDJS : dick
[2016-10-22 22:17:58] BTCDJS : shit
[2016-10-22 22:18:19] BTCDJS : you can grab em by the pussy
[2016-10-22 22:18:24] justinlooking : kitten should not be censored if input contains rapid
[2016-10-22 22:18:28] justinlooking : clearly a bug
[2016-10-22 22:18:55] BTCDJS : justinlooking: nobody asked you
[2016-10-22 22:20:24] BTCDJS : K I'm done being a cunt
[2016-10-22 22:20:33] BTCDJS : sorry guys.
[2016-10-22 22:20:38] BTCDJS : ima go to bed
[2016-10-22 22:20:53] BTCDJS : love ya
[2016-10-22 22:21:45] BTCDJS : in a universal way. not a personal way. so don't get too excited. You're still alone in the world and nobody cares about you
[2016-10-22 22:24:47] justinlooking : yo BitMEX_Sam are u here?
[2016-10-22 22:25:36] justinlooking : could u generate a swagger go client plz
[2016-10-22 22:32:23] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Sure
[2016-10-22 22:32:49] BitMEX_Sam : You'll have to implement auth yourself, the generator projects only do endpoint & model boilerplate
[2016-10-22 22:32:57] BitMEX_Sam : See https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/tree/master/clients/go
[2016-10-22 22:34:14] justinlooking : thanks, sorry didn't spot that
[2016-10-22 22:34:35] BitMEX_Sam : No worries. You might be able to find other Go projects that consume swagger JSON as well
[2016-10-22 22:35:28] BitMEX_Sam : For instance, https://goswagger.io/generate/client.html
[2016-10-22 22:35:41] BitMEX_Sam : You can get the raw JSON from https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/swagger.json
[2016-10-22 22:43:16] Rado : BTC holding pretty good
[2016-10-22 22:45:26] zanza : this seems to be a Finex price spike
[2016-10-22 22:45:29] zanza : anyone agree?
[2016-10-22 22:46:09] sleger : depends what that is supposed to mean
[2016-10-22 22:46:17] zanza : Finex back to about 1/3 peak volume
[2016-10-22 22:47:38] j8 : surely it was china behind the move, and finex got bid up because there's no liquidity
[2016-10-22 22:48:49] Rado : zanza: I think it's Yuan devaluation
[2016-10-22 22:49:11] sleger : of course it is
[2016-10-22 22:49:32] j8 : yep
[2016-10-22 22:50:54] Rado : I am actually surprised Bitfinex volume is this high after the hack
[2016-10-22 22:51:20] Rado : 10k in the last 24h
[2016-10-22 22:53:12] Rado : sleger: what are you trading at the moment?
[2016-10-22 23:04:15] sleger : same as usual, btc and eth almost exclusively
[2016-10-22 23:04:59] aethlios : bitfinex bitmex top 2 for btcusd pair
[2016-10-22 23:12:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: we should be compared to futures not spot
[2016-10-22 23:13:56] j8 : sleger: still short ZEC?
[2016-10-22 23:14:16] rapidtrades : Rado: u shouldn't be, they fake the volume
[2016-10-22 23:14:25] rapidtrades : might as well say 20k
[2016-10-22 23:14:36] sleger : j8: no
[2016-10-22 23:14:46] rapidtrades : ha!
[2016-10-22 23:15:01] rapidtrades : they beat u
[2016-10-22 23:15:06] j8 : i stopped out for now also.
[2016-10-22 23:15:16] sleger : waiting for go live and sell higher
[2016-10-22 23:15:18] rapidtrades : they beat u too
[2016-10-22 23:15:22] rapidtrades : j8
[2016-10-22 23:15:26] j8 : let the idiots have their way
[2016-10-22 23:15:56] j8 : gotta pick your battles
[2016-10-22 23:15:57] rapidtrades : hey most ppl here count their stash in BTC
[2016-10-22 23:16:01] rapidtrades : how's the idiots
[2016-10-22 23:16:16] rapidtrades : are BTC and zCash really that far apart :)
[2016-10-22 23:18:02] j8 : i'm not a zcash hater, i would buy some, but i can wait a few months or more for the supply to catch up with the hype
[2016-10-22 23:20:01] billyboy402 : What the funding rate on eth mobile doesn't show it
[2016-10-22 23:20:28] rapidtrades : -0.08
[2016-10-22 23:23:32] BitMEX_Sam : billyboy402: It is shown, you have to unfold the Control Details tab under the order controls, though.
[2016-10-22 23:23:48] rapidtrades : billyboy402: btw YOU'RE WELCOME
[2016-10-22 23:23:57] rapidtrades : f douche
[2016-10-22 23:24:12] billyboy402 : Cheers
[2016-10-22 23:26:17] billyboy402 : Oh I see it . On PC it show it up the top with a clock . Mobile site is still a little ugly
[2016-10-22 23:26:22] billyboy402 : thx
[2016-10-22 23:29:13] rapidtrades : sleger: been a good year for option selling eh?
[2016-10-22 23:31:24] sleger : yes
[2016-10-22 23:32:30] rapidtrades : so fellas we go up to china or china goes down to our level?
[2016-10-22 23:33:15] rapidtrades : $11 premium atm
[2016-10-22 23:34:18] Velancry : rapidtrades: we always stay below
[2016-10-22 23:34:51] rapidtrades : not always no
[2016-10-22 23:34:53] j8 : china just goes totally flat after moves like this. it's kinda crazy
[2016-10-22 23:35:03] rapidtrades : only lately
[2016-10-22 23:35:45] rapidtrades : $31 premium on dec futures seems excessive
[2016-10-22 23:36:50] rapidtrades : here it's like $29...still a lot
[2016-10-22 23:38:49] j8 : difference is, the possible CNY deval will be corrected for in the long run. whereas you are actually short JPY if you buy here
[2016-10-22 23:38:55] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: is the PnL part of ADL position specific or account wide?
[2016-10-22 23:52:38] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Per-position
[2016-10-22 23:53:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: let's make it per account?
[2016-10-22 23:53:41] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: I have a pending deposit with more than one confirm and still not in my balance. When will it become available
[2016-10-22 23:53:57] rapidtrades : or per currency....like BTC, ETH etc
[2016-10-22 23:53:59] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: I'm looking into it now
[2016-10-22 23:54:13] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: awesome, thx.
[2016-10-22 23:54:33] rapidtrades : so we can arbs the Yens easier....cos let's face it, noone wants that currency exposure
[2016-10-22 23:59:25] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: You're good to go
[2016-10-22 23:59:38] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for your help.
[2016-10-23 00:02:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 196 @ 0.00589
[2016-10-23 00:04:48] Velancry : we just broke it ;O
[2016-10-23 00:11:16] qualquer : The Fees in the "Reference" page are up to date?
[2016-10-23 00:13:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2016-10-23 00:18:04] wurstgelee : this is the best type of bitcoin.
[2016-10-23 00:18:17] wurstgelee : the one that goes up while i am long and out having drinks
[2016-10-23 00:18:30] martinium : @BitMEX_Arthur does bitmex have a slack or only IRC channel?
[2016-10-23 00:20:16] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/support
[2016-10-23 00:20:40] BitMEX_Arthur : martinium: info about the IRC channel is there
[2016-10-23 00:21:13] martinium : yeah I see it I was asking whether you also have a slack group or only the IRC
[2016-10-23 00:21:25] Velancry : 4555 here we go
[2016-10-23 00:24:33] mjones : double topping.
[2016-10-23 00:25:37] mjones : new high.
[2016-10-23 00:25:42] mjones : lets get another round of margin calls going
[2016-10-23 00:25:45] Velancry : mjones: happy ending
[2016-10-23 00:26:17] mjones : ltc/btc almost new low for first time in 3 1/2 years
[2016-10-23 00:28:12] sleger : wow
[2016-10-23 00:28:29] sleger : someone bought up to 682
[2016-10-23 00:28:33] Velancry : if this continue I have doubled my wallet today
[2016-10-23 00:29:15] Bacon futures trader : lmao
[2016-10-23 00:29:33] Shoes : I bought market went to 671
[2016-10-23 00:29:48] sleger : someone market bought around 260k contracts
[2016-10-23 00:29:50] j8 : wow
[2016-10-23 00:29:57] Velancry : shit
[2016-10-23 00:30:07] Shoes : Lets go baby
[2016-10-23 00:30:10] sleger : i sold some ar 680, thanks
[2016-10-23 00:30:28] wurstgelee : the fomo is strong
[2016-10-23 00:30:30] j8 : was too slow for that
[2016-10-23 00:30:38] wurstgelee : so are my drinks
[2016-10-23 00:30:45] wurstgelee : a perfect storm
[2016-10-23 00:30:46] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-23 00:30:47] martinium : that was a monster spike
[2016-10-23 00:30:48] Shoes : Lol
[2016-10-23 00:30:52] martinium : beautiful
[2016-10-23 00:30:54] MCT : not to self, keep a crazy order open
[2016-10-23 00:31:48] wurstgelee : so...who did panic-market-close his massive long?
[2016-10-23 00:31:50] Shoes : No real dip today this is nice
[2016-10-23 00:32:01] sleger : wurstgelee: think again
[2016-10-23 00:32:02] wurstgelee : short ofc
[2016-10-23 00:32:09] sleger : voila
[2016-10-23 00:32:12] wurstgelee : yeah sorry, brain works,fingers dont
[2016-10-23 00:32:32] j8 : did open interest go up or down from that?
[2016-10-23 00:33:26] justinlooking : up by about 250xbt
[2016-10-23 00:34:14] j8 : good to know
[2016-10-23 00:34:33] Bacon futures trader : do these spikes get corrected?
[2016-10-23 00:34:43] wurstgelee : corrected?
[2016-10-23 00:34:46] Bacon futures trader : Because it's not showing anymore on my chart
[2016-10-23 00:34:53] wurstgelee : whats that supposed to mean?
[2016-10-23 00:35:01] Bacon futures trader : and also not in the recent trades
[2016-10-23 00:35:09] Bacon futures trader : that 680$ spike
[2016-10-23 00:35:15] sleger : its there
[2016-10-23 00:35:19] BitMEX_Sam : Sure it is, keep scrolling
[2016-10-23 00:35:21] justinlooking : i see it
[2016-10-23 00:35:26] martinium : I see it also
[2016-10-23 00:35:26] wurstgelee : it does show up in recent trades
[2016-10-23 00:35:37] sleger : Bacon futures trader: switch away from ZEC back to xbt
[2016-10-23 00:35:59] wurstgelee : also "corrected" would either mean undone or removed. bouth would be the last things i saw here. ;
[2016-10-23 00:36:01] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 00:36:07] wurstgelee : *-u
[2016-10-23 00:36:25] martinium : whoever caused that spike with a market order I love you
[2016-10-23 00:37:10] Bacon futures trader : Ah yeah, still in the recent trades
[2016-10-23 00:37:16] Bacon futures trader : but chart looks corrected
[2016-10-23 00:37:45] wurstgelee : no?
[2016-10-23 00:37:52] BitMEX_Sam : Nope, there's no "correction"
[2016-10-23 00:37:57] martinium : nope
[2016-10-23 00:37:58] BitMEX_Sam : Check where you're scrolled to and/or your interval
[2016-10-23 00:38:56] Bacon futures trader : Ah yeah it's showing up on the 5 minute
[2016-10-23 00:38:58] Bacon futures trader : my bad
[2016-10-23 00:40:21] wurstgelee : whoever gets nmc'ed with a big short on ZEC next and makes me get ADL'ed: FU, Sir!
[2016-10-23 00:40:25] wurstgelee : in advance
[2016-10-23 00:40:27] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-23 00:40:31] wurstgelee : *-n
[2016-10-23 00:42:27] aethlios : we are going up big, no sleep for next 30 days.
[2016-10-23 00:42:36] mjones : lol
[2016-10-23 00:43:50] Shoes : Lol lets wait for 4600 to break
[2016-10-23 00:44:12] Shoes : Last time we blew theough the 4000's cny
[2016-10-23 00:47:20] aethlios : we need an alt index future. can bitmex create one??
[2016-10-23 00:54:28] mjones : it happened LTC/BTC 0.0058
[2016-10-23 01:03:07] wurstgelee : so..ltc is finally dying?
[2016-10-23 01:06:04] aethlios : wurstgelee: ltcusd going up. whales condolidate, they will pump to 50 when btc >1000
[2016-10-23 01:09:16] wurstgelee : lol. maybe, maybe not. last time i traded ltc it was 1:30 vs btc iirc. i am done with it ever since.
[2016-10-23 01:09:17] wurstgelee : have fun :)
[2016-10-23 01:12:05] aethlios : 2nd most secure puplic blockchain, no premine scam, well known dev. It's a matter of time big guys who will think btc expensive, to buy ltc and develop the coin.
[2016-10-23 01:14:28] sleger : lol ?
[2016-10-23 01:14:31] wurstgelee : i disagree but cba to elabortate tbh
[2016-10-23 01:14:37] wurstgelee : *elaborate
[2016-10-23 01:14:42] wurstgelee : cause drinks
[2016-10-23 01:15:21] wurstgelee : i should emphazize this more: i storngly disagree
[2016-10-23 01:15:26] wurstgelee : *typos
[2016-10-23 01:15:51] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GAbb5KLi/
[2016-10-23 01:16:00] aethlios : my LTCUSD perspective.
[2016-10-23 01:16:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 75000 @ 0.00001322
[2016-10-23 01:16:42] wurstgelee : where's the most recnt dump in this chart?
[2016-10-23 01:17:05] mjones : if ltc pumps again then nice money to be made over on 0kcoin 20x
[2016-10-23 01:17:30] aethlios : wurstgelee: what dump, it is a long term chart.
[2016-10-23 01:18:00] wurstgelee : yes, great. it did break down tho
[2016-10-23 01:18:07] wurstgelee : below your pretty lines
[2016-10-23 01:18:08] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 01:18:27] aethlios : this is ltcusd, not ltcbtc
[2016-10-23 01:20:16] wurstgelee : indeed, it is
[2016-10-23 01:20:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-23 01:22:42] aethlios : wurstgelee: whales accumulate, they keep the volatility dead and miners sell to them their coins to pay electricity. Most coins are mined first 8 years, when they accumulate enough % of total supply then pump it hard to sell to believers above 40, they keep volatility dead so traders don't get interested and don't buy positions.
[2016-10-23 01:23:48] aethlios : this is how large capital holders think and work, they create the moves from which we small fishes earn profit.
[2016-10-23 01:26:57] aethlios : if btc pumps above 1000, NO WAY ltc whales will lose the opportunity to pump the coin.
[2016-10-23 01:28:59] wurstgelee : Most coins are mined first 8 years
[2016-10-23 01:29:00] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-10-23 01:29:02] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-23 01:29:09] simonl1978 : is there an APP to login the site?
[2016-10-23 01:30:52] aethlios : 75% mined first 8 years.
[2016-10-23 01:33:24] wurstgelee : how many coins do u know that got mined for 8 years until today?
[2016-10-23 01:33:47] wurstgelee : "most" is just funny in this context, thats all ;)
[2016-10-23 01:34:28] wurstgelee : *hint: the answer is: zero ;)
[2016-10-23 01:38:44] seshbb : i think he's talking about 75% of litecoin mined in 8 years
[2016-10-23 01:39:13] aethlios : seshbb: true.
[2016-10-23 01:40:11] aethlios : monero was for 2 years in tight range, when supply 75% was mined then they pumped.
[2016-10-23 01:41:39] seshbb : i'll eat a hat if bitcoin launches and litecoin doesn't follow
[2016-10-23 01:41:58] aethlios : english not my native language
[2016-10-23 01:46:52] wurstgelee : why would the percentage of total coins mined have any influence? from a pump&dump perspective, it's about the percentage of the current supply the participating parties hold
[2016-10-23 01:48:37] aethlios : wurstgelee: it is cheaper then to control the price in higher levels, you don't have many miners dumping to you.
[2016-10-23 01:48:52] wurstgelee : yes, but if u hold 10%, u hold 10%
[2016-10-23 01:49:08] wurstgelee : it doesnt matter if its 10% of 1m or 1 bn or whatever else
[2016-10-23 01:49:54] aethlios : the more % of supply you hold the easier for you to manipulate the coin.
[2016-10-23 01:50:14] wurstgelee : yes, the more % u hold!
[2016-10-23 01:50:15] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-23 01:50:49] wurstgelee : it doesnt matter if u hold 10% after 1 year with amybe 20% of total coins mined or if u hold 20% of 100% coins mined
[2016-10-23 01:51:01] wurstgelee : *maybe
[2016-10-23 01:52:05] wurstgelee : 10% also
[2016-10-23 01:52:11] wurstgelee : otherwise it makes no sense
[2016-10-23 01:52:50] aethlios : anyway, my point is ltc could look dead (no volatility) but this maybe happens because whales accumulate.
[2016-10-23 04:20:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2500 @ 655.06
[2016-10-23 04:50:06] +1 : BitMEX_Sam: Is BitMEX in China already? I mean it is said that it will be marketed on early October. How was it?
[2016-10-23 06:19:45] zanza : BitMex is anywhere the internet is
[2016-10-23 06:19:50] zanza : i think they are working on translation tho
[2016-10-23 06:20:06] zanza : just click the top right for Language
[2016-10-23 06:51:31] +1 : zanza: Thanks.
[2016-10-23 07:03:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 500 @ 68390
[2016-10-23 07:14:44] laisee : Estimates for ZEC pump when it gors live?
[2016-10-23 08:30:02] TA : laisee: I think it's already too pumped up atm
[2016-10-23 10:12:12] laisee : TA says sell?
[2016-10-23 10:16:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19615 @ 653.29
[2016-10-23 10:16:48] TA : laisee: well.. imagine 1 zec selling for 0.2x btc .. do you think zec will launch at that price ? No.. it will be much much lower imo
[2016-10-23 10:21:49] habibi : u mean hiogher?
[2016-10-23 10:35:36] laisee : hmmm. tight squeeze on listing as mining is limited.
[2016-10-23 10:40:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2800 @ 653.05
[2016-10-23 10:57:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1668 @ 651.79
[2016-10-23 10:57:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 14000 @ 651.76
[2016-10-23 11:04:07] Velancry : below 4496. i
[2016-10-23 11:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3450 @ 651.41
[2016-10-23 11:06:06] Kalman : Velancry: got rekt?
[2016-10-23 11:07:19] Velancry : Kalman: no I was prepared.
[2016-10-23 11:07:37] Velancry : Im short
[2016-10-23 11:16:26] rapidtrades : nasty funding coming up
[2016-10-23 11:18:15] Velancry : rapidtrades: what do you mean ?