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[2016-10-22 16:38:15] Rado : somethign could happen that will spook people and BTC can go to $2000 over a week period
[2016-10-22 16:38:20] Rado : yes it does
[2016-10-22 16:38:31] Rado : are you even aware of what's happening?
[2016-10-22 16:38:32] arbitrage001 : Rado: it really depend on chinese whale
[2016-10-22 16:38:57] Rado : arbitrage001: it's not about Chinese or anyone else
[2016-10-22 16:39:07] arbitrage001 : if chinese whale buy, then it will go go over 1000
[2016-10-22 16:39:11] Rado : it's about central banks losing control
[2016-10-22 16:39:25] rapidtrades : why would smone buy when the already fot f*cked at 800
[2016-10-22 16:39:34] RocketScience : rising interest rates
[2016-10-22 16:39:35] Rado : 20 trillion debt and they can't raise rates
[2016-10-22 16:39:35] rapidtrades : give it a year or two for new idiots to come in
[2016-10-22 16:40:06] Rado : people are doing it wrong
[2016-10-22 16:40:08] rapidtrades : everyone who longed at 660-800 is now nderwater
[2016-10-22 16:40:12] RocketScience : who will default first?
[2016-10-22 16:40:16] Rado : they are trying to make fiat by trading BTC
[2016-10-22 16:40:25] Rado : I trade BTC to make BTC
[2016-10-22 16:40:26] rapidtrades : plz none of that garbage matters
[2016-10-22 16:40:28] Rado : never convert to fiat
[2016-10-22 16:40:49] Rado : then BTC volatility doesn't affect me
[2016-10-22 16:41:09] dasdfasdf : When people find out BTC can scale with segwit i think that will help.
[2016-10-22 16:41:10] Rado : my average price of BTC is about $380
[2016-10-22 16:41:43] arbitrage001 : Rado: different approach here
[2016-10-22 16:41:53] arbitrage001 : all my btc are usually hedge somewhere
[2016-10-22 16:41:59] RocketScience : china under 4500
[2016-10-22 16:42:08] rapidtrades : oh noes
[2016-10-22 16:42:14] RocketScience : this is an important technical number now
[2016-10-22 16:42:18] Rado : arbitrage001: that means you can only make fiat
[2016-10-22 16:42:23] Rado : your BTC will be constant
[2016-10-22 16:42:32] Rado : I want to accumulate more BTC for the future
[2016-10-22 16:42:32] arbitrage001 : Rado: correct
[2016-10-22 16:42:38] arbitrage001 : but profit is in btc
[2016-10-22 16:42:42] Rado : what would you do with your fiat?
[2016-10-22 16:42:47] arbitrage001 : which i cash out every month
[2016-10-22 16:42:57] arbitrage001 : tea and girls
[2016-10-22 16:43:04] Rado : I am not talking monthly expenses
[2016-10-22 16:43:14] arbitrage001 : since i dont drink alcohol
[2016-10-22 16:43:16] Rado : I am talking investment for long term
[2016-10-22 16:43:21] Rado : lol
[2016-10-22 16:43:28] Rado : girls is nice
[2016-10-22 16:43:34] arbitrage001 : yea
[2016-10-22 16:43:42] arbitrage001 : economic in my country is doing so bad
[2016-10-22 16:43:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 1086 @ 0.007877
[2016-10-22 16:43:54] arbitrage001 : even prostitute is suffering
[2016-10-22 16:43:59] Rado : arbitrage001: which country is that?
[2016-10-22 16:44:04] arbitrage001 : malaysia
[2016-10-22 16:44:05] laisee : zimbabwe?
[2016-10-22 16:44:13] Rado : oh yeah I remember
[2016-10-22 16:44:30] Rado : are you still investing in local mining company?
[2016-10-22 16:44:31] rapidtrades : can u believe this bullshit http://blog.bitfinex.com/announcements/message-individual-responsible-bitfinex-security-incident-august-2-2016/
[2016-10-22 16:44:49] arbitrage001 : Rado: what mining company?
[2016-10-22 16:45:05] arbitrage001 : Rado: have quit cryto mining long time ago
[2016-10-22 16:45:07] Rado : or was it a company that trades BTC
[2016-10-22 16:45:22] arbitrage001 : negative profit with high risk
[2016-10-22 16:45:29] Rado : right
[2016-10-22 16:46:41] arbitrage001 : people who invest in new growth area for long term usually go broke
[2016-10-22 16:46:54] arbitrage001 : based on historical reference
[2016-10-22 16:47:32] arbitrage001 : and most companies who do well also go bankrupt eventually
[2016-10-22 16:47:49] mike23aa : I'm long very leveraged... I'm a little scared
[2016-10-22 16:49:09] dasdfasdf : mike23aa: use more leverage.
[2016-10-22 16:49:19] dasdfasdf : grow some balls
[2016-10-22 16:49:27] Rado : mike23aa: stop orders are your friend
[2016-10-22 16:49:41] Rado : I am never worried :-)
[2016-10-22 16:49:50] Rado : the worst that can happen is I miss on profits
[2016-10-22 16:50:09] Rado : preserving capital is the most important in trading
[2016-10-22 16:51:19] arbitrage001 : Rado: this is the correct mentality for trading
[2016-10-22 16:51:36] arbitrage001 : no problem missing profit, key think is stay alive
[2016-10-22 16:51:43] arbitrage001 : key thing
[2016-10-22 16:52:10] Rado : specially trading derivatives where you can get liquidated and loose a big chunk of your capital
[2016-10-22 16:52:36] arbitrage001 : reason why i rarely use more than 3 times leverage
[2016-10-22 16:52:47] arbitrage001 : seen market can go horrible wrong
[2016-10-22 16:52:54] arbitrage001 : even when fundamental is intact
[2016-10-22 16:53:35] Rado : I think we will test the break of $645
[2016-10-22 16:56:42] RocketScience : 0.245 predicted funding in 11 hours for XBT/USD
[2016-10-22 16:56:54] mjones : okcoin pumps 7% and XBJ pumps like 2.5%
[2016-10-22 16:56:56] RocketScience : what is the maximum?
[2016-10-22 16:59:24] arbitrage001 : RocketScience: 1.25 i think
[2016-10-22 16:59:43] aethlios : 1.125% maybe
[2016-10-22 16:59:53] RocketScience : 0.25 already
[2016-10-22 16:59:59] RocketScience : it's rising by the minute
[2016-10-22 17:00:08] RocketScience : we are way above mark price
[2016-10-22 17:00:39] arbitrage001 : good deal if you are hedged somewhere else
[2016-10-22 17:00:47] arbitrage001 : and the trading commision is low
[2016-10-22 17:03:15] RocketScience : is forex closed ove weekends?
[2016-10-22 17:03:40] sleger : interbank markets are
[2016-10-22 17:05:40] martinium : bitcoin open 24/7
[2016-10-22 17:05:47] martinium : love that about these markets
[2016-10-22 17:06:33] Rado : martinium: yep, and still no institutional crap like in the stockmarket
[2016-10-22 17:06:48] Rado : no Goldman Sacks to screw us over yet
[2016-10-22 17:07:17] sleger : how did GS ever screw you ?
[2016-10-22 17:07:55] Rado : retail investors get sucked in stocks at the top and then they crash the market
[2016-10-22 17:08:05] Rado : they load up at the bottom and repeat
[2016-10-22 17:08:08] dasdfasdf : then they wait a few years and come back up
[2016-10-22 17:08:34] sleger : it's called natural selection
[2016-10-22 17:08:44] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-10-22 17:08:46] Rado : it is
[2016-10-22 17:09:04] rapidtrades : ever heard of the tulip mania?
[2016-10-22 17:09:17] Rado : but hard to play against a player with billions and automated software
[2016-10-22 17:09:20] rapidtrades : idiots bought at tops long before goldman :)
[2016-10-22 17:09:28] sleger : nobody forcing anyone to buy stocks
[2016-10-22 17:09:43] rapidtrades : i don't see how automated anything has to do with buying at tops
[2016-10-22 17:09:50] Rado : tulip bubble still bogles the mind
[2016-10-22 17:10:02] rapidtrades : that's just one of many
[2016-10-22 17:10:10] rapidtrades : how many bitcoiners bought at 1000?
[2016-10-22 17:10:19] Rado : not that many
[2016-10-22 17:10:23] Rado : look at the volume
[2016-10-22 17:10:24] rapidtrades : oh really
[2016-10-22 17:11:02] sleger : reminds me of this lol article : https://www.techinasia.com/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-bitmex
[2016-10-22 17:11:37] Rado : sleger: that's funny
[2016-10-22 17:12:08] Rado : I hope he is not going to screw us over
[2016-10-22 17:12:20] dasdfasdf : thats all u have
[2016-10-22 17:12:20] dasdfasdf : hope
[2016-10-22 17:13:29] Rado : well we have open bazar and Bitsquare
[2016-10-22 17:13:36] Rado : peer to peer
[2016-10-22 17:13:45] Rado : still not good enough for trading
[2016-10-22 17:13:58] Rado : talk to you later guys
[2016-10-22 17:14:06] Rado : going to get out to get some air
[2016-10-22 17:14:30] dasdfasdf : no time for air
[2016-10-22 17:14:34] Rado : ?
[2016-10-22 17:15:37] +1 : Rado: Thanks for the tip. Will learn XBJ soon.
[2016-10-22 17:16:26] RocketScience : If Japan declares another QE and USD/JPY rises back to 120, then you automatically have +15% gains
[2016-10-22 17:19:24] arbitrage001 : btc would be seen as tulip if it crash down the road
[2016-10-22 17:19:44] arbitrage001 : 1 dollar btc
[2016-10-22 17:20:28] dasdfasdf : Why even 1 dollar?
[2016-10-22 17:20:51] arbitrage001 : 1 cents?
[2016-10-22 17:21:09] arbitrage001 : or ask or 1 cents with no bid?
[2016-10-22 17:21:14] arbitrage001 : ask of
[2016-10-22 17:21:19] dasdfasdf : hah there you go
[2016-10-22 17:21:33] aethlios : also my bid at 0.0071 for monero, to rebuy back.
[2016-10-22 17:21:47] rapidtrades : we already had several tulip mania type crashes
[2016-10-22 17:21:55] rapidtrades : remember $30 >$2?
[2016-10-22 17:22:03] rapidtrades : and $1000 to $160
[2016-10-22 17:22:22] rapidtrades : next time it may not recover
[2016-10-22 17:22:42] RocketScience : it will always recover
[2016-10-22 17:22:44] +1 : arbitrage001: You think BTC can really go that low?
[2016-10-22 17:25:04] arbitrage001 : +1: anything is possible
[2016-10-22 17:26:06] arbitrage001 : +1: we have seen many 6 sigma events in the last 10 years
[2016-10-22 17:26:19] rapidtrades : 'it will always recover'
[2016-10-22 17:26:28] rapidtrades : ^can u believe that shit
[2016-10-22 17:26:39] arbitrage001 : which is only suppose to happen once every few millions years
[2016-10-22 17:26:42] poes : btc is so overrated
[2016-10-22 17:26:56] poes : its a software product thats not production ready
[2016-10-22 17:27:10] poes : its not even secure, and fully decentral
[2016-10-22 17:27:29] rapidtrades : it's secure enough
[2016-10-22 17:27:43] rapidtrades : at least on the network side
[2016-10-22 17:28:20] poes : on the other hand it can always include technologies used by altcoins in the future and it has the biggest market cap
[2016-10-22 17:29:26] dasdfasdf : not production ready?
[2016-10-22 17:29:27] poes : but thanks to the mining pools its not fully decentralized yet
[2016-10-22 17:29:43] poes : its just that there isnt any better alternative
[2016-10-22 17:29:54] poes : and there is such big demand for it
[2016-10-22 17:29:55] dasdfasdf : Like everthing
[2016-10-22 17:31:09] MrRGnome : poes: A blockchain using PoW is an economic security model. Bitcoin by an enormous margin has the most secure economic security model
[2016-10-22 17:31:40] poes : MrRGnome: i agree, mining pools though
[2016-10-22 17:33:40] poes : mining pools, asic mining farms, transaction limit, transactions not instant, if these things are fixed bitcoin price would skyrocket
[2016-10-22 17:33:59] poes : the risk though
[2016-10-22 17:34:27] dasdfasdf : segwit and lightningn is what will take this to 1100 and beyond. as they bring instant payments and unlimited* transactoins
[2016-10-22 17:34:54] dasdfasdf : ASIC is good as the only thing the machines can be used for is BTC.
[2016-10-22 17:36:10] +1 : arbitrage001: sorry, what is 6 sigma? Tried google but not simple enough
[2016-10-22 17:37:13] sleger : sigma = standard dev
[2016-10-22 17:39:05] +1 : sleger: and what does the number 6 mean?
[2016-10-22 17:39:18] sleger : it's the one between 5 and 6
[2016-10-22 17:39:22] sleger : *5 and 7
[2016-10-22 17:40:08] +1 : sleger: LOL -- serious man
[2016-10-22 17:40:24] sleger : "serious" ??
[2016-10-22 17:40:30] sleger : and your question is "and what does the number 6 mean?"
[2016-10-22 17:40:54] dasdfasdf : What does the 6 mean in "6 sigma"
[2016-10-22 17:40:56] sleger : what does the letter F mean
[2016-10-22 17:41:00] +1 : sleger: the number 6 before the word sigma
[2016-10-22 17:41:09] sleger : it means six
[2016-10-22 17:41:12] +1 : dasdfasdf: yes, tq
[2016-10-22 17:41:17] dasdfasdf : sleger: ah
[2016-10-22 17:41:17] dasdfasdf : ok
[2016-10-22 17:41:19] dasdfasdf : thanks
[2016-10-22 17:41:36] dasdfasdf : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma
[2016-10-22 17:41:40] +1 : sleger: and if it is...3?
[2016-10-22 17:41:59] sleger : dasdfasdf: that page has nothing to do with it
[2016-10-22 17:41:59] dasdfasdf : What is an example of a 6 sigma event?
[2016-10-22 17:42:31] sleger : dasdfasdf: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=6+sigma+events
[2016-10-22 17:42:54] dasdfasdf : You guys are so fun
[2016-10-22 17:43:01] rapidtrades : the odds for those X-sigma events are calculated on normal distribution...which the markets are not
[2016-10-22 17:43:21] rapidtrades : in short, they're a BS stat
[2016-10-22 17:44:40] dasdfasdf : twice in a billion
[2016-10-22 17:46:20] +1 : sleger: fuck thats funny! lmgtfy.com i'm going to pass it on
[2016-10-22 17:46:43] +1 : what the hell
[2016-10-22 17:47:04] +1 : i think i wrote the F word?
[2016-10-22 17:47:19] +1 : LOL
[2016-10-22 17:47:31] dasdfasdf : try okcoin*
[2016-10-22 17:47:35] dasdfasdf : okcoinn
[2016-10-22 17:47:40] dasdfasdf : okcoin>
[2016-10-22 17:47:42] mjones : fuck okcoin
[2016-10-22 17:47:50] +1 : pussy
[2016-10-22 17:47:51] dasdfasdf : okkcoin
[2016-10-22 17:48:08] dasdfasdf : bitstamp
[2016-10-22 17:48:18] +1 : oops.. what is the woodchipper?
[2016-10-22 17:48:25] RocketScience : 0kcoin
[2016-10-22 17:48:30] RocketScience : try writing ok.coin together
[2016-10-22 17:48:44] +1 : okcoin
[2016-10-22 17:48:54] +1 : hahaha
[2016-10-22 17:49:02] rapidtrades : now try the N-word
[2016-10-22 17:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2 @ 0.01834
[2016-10-22 17:49:14] +1 : nigger
[2016-10-22 17:49:20] +1 : LOL
[2016-10-22 17:49:21] rapidtrades : brave man ^
[2016-10-22 17:50:20] +1 : I still am laughing
[2016-10-22 17:50:37] dasdfasdf : nigga
[2016-10-22 17:50:40] dasdfasdf : nigger
[2016-10-22 17:51:00] sleger : niggar
[2016-10-22 17:51:01] +1 : Who put this up? I'm sure it's not arthur kah3x
[2016-10-22 18:04:16] dasdfasdf : Will stamp break 650?
[2016-10-22 18:04:41] mjones : glad to see bitcoin/yen going up
[2016-10-22 18:05:15] mjones : looks like the market maker on every friday reached his limit
[2016-10-22 18:30:16] BTCDJS : +1: -1. Not cool
[2016-10-22 18:31:17] +1 : BTCDJS: what is?
[2016-10-22 18:32:38] BTCDJS : You know what you did
[2016-10-22 18:35:52] +1 : BTCDJS: Sorry if I hurt you or anyone else.
[2016-10-22 18:36:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 98 @ 0.01823
[2016-10-22 18:36:35] mjones : down goes eth
[2016-10-22 18:39:18] dasdfasdf : after 12 dollars where does it stop?
[2016-10-22 18:58:22] Anon39 : how long is the "trading session"?
[2016-10-22 18:58:59] justinlooking : 8h\
[2016-10-22 18:59:48] Anon39 : 8h for all trading pair?
[2016-10-22 19:00:33] RocketScience : for swaps
[2016-10-22 19:01:05] RocketScience : 7 days futures are seven days and so on
[2016-10-22 19:01:40] Anon39 : seems like zcash is 24h?
[2016-10-22 19:01:59] RocketScience : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ZEC
[2016-10-22 19:02:08] RocketScience : i don't know
[2016-10-22 19:03:12] Anon39 : thanks i guess it start after every rebalance
[2016-10-22 20:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 125000 @ 655.29 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-10-22 20:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 26209 @ 656.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-22 20:08:21] aethlios : so now because we have x100 leverage the max funding is 0.375% every 8 hours??? (1%-0.5%)*75%= 0.375% can someone confirm??
[2016-10-22 20:10:40] j8 : aethlios: yeah i was just looking at that. it seems so. big change from 1.125% when it was 50x
[2016-10-22 20:11:34] arbitrage001 : where is the info?
[2016-10-22 20:11:43] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-10-22 20:12:57] arbitrage001 : i stiill reas it as 1.125
[2016-10-22 20:13:04] arbitrage001 : read
[2016-10-22 20:13:13] j8 : i don't
[2016-10-22 20:13:24] aethlios : arbitrage001: the example they have is with x50
[2016-10-22 20:14:09] aethlios : that's why predicted is stable 0.375% now
[2016-10-22 20:14:18] arbitrage001 : the cap said 1.125
[2016-10-22 20:14:33] j8 : just means they'll have to lower the leverage again if 0.375% is not enough
[2016-10-22 20:14:35] arbitrage001 : which take 3 funding period to reach
[2016-10-22 20:15:02] j8 : $1. The absolute Funding Rate is capped at 75% of the Initial Margin - Maintenance Margin.$
[2016-10-22 20:15:34] j8 : ignore those $'s
[2016-10-22 20:15:35] arbitrage001 : i dont think they take changing leverage into account
[2016-10-22 20:15:37] +1 : on 20th we had more than 0.375% https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-10-22 20:16:20] aethlios : @+1 no, look 8hour, not the daily.
[2016-10-22 20:17:36] +1 : aethlios: oops ;)
[2016-10-22 20:18:39] aethlios : this could create a "permanent" premium in a bull market, because cheaper cost to long and higher leverage.
[2016-10-22 20:18:58] aethlios : longs are much better now.
[2016-10-22 20:19:20] j8 : permanent until they change things.. that's what happened last time
[2016-10-22 20:19:39] aethlios : can have double position with same capital and 1/3 of the cost to long, so 6 times better.
[2016-10-22 20:21:40] j8 : really 1% a day should be plenty, but people are crazy.. before we had over 1% per 8 hours for a couple days
[2016-10-22 20:23:00] aethlios : yes I agree is much more fair now, 1.125% daily is good compensation for arbitragers to offer liq. and bulls can have a decent profit too, so more liquidity for all.
[2016-10-22 20:24:24] j8 : the market kind of falls apart if it's trading away from the mark price for long periods though. liquidations will not clear and everyone will get ADL'd
[2016-10-22 20:26:20] arbitrage001 : .375 cap is too small on a strong directional market
[2016-10-22 20:26:45] arbitrage001 : last time, we had 3-5% premium for longer than a few days
[2016-10-22 20:30:13] j8 : 9000 yen spread on XBJZ16.. market maker is being shy
[2016-10-22 20:30:55] miramm1115 : j8: there is no MM, only my small bot left
[2016-10-22 20:31:52] j8 : there was someone quoting 10000's an hour or two ago, seems to hit his limit pretty fast
[2016-10-22 20:33:40] arbitrage001 : wish they add usd pair
[2016-10-22 20:33:48] arbitrage001 : for dec contract
[2016-10-22 20:36:07] BigDaddyBigDick : would be nice
[2016-10-22 20:36:14] habibi : and quantos*
[2016-10-22 20:39:59] Rado : arbitrage001: why does it matter if it's USD or JPY?
[2016-10-22 20:40:09] Rado : ibtrade both the same way
[2016-10-22 20:40:22] arbitrage001 : Rado: my brain cant swich
[2016-10-22 20:40:23] j8 : not if USD/JPY moves
[2016-10-22 20:40:29] Rado : unless you think there will be more MMs
[2016-10-22 20:40:47] arbitrage001 : and what j8 mentions
[2016-10-22 20:41:14] mjones : JPY price is lagging behind
[2016-10-22 20:41:20] j8 : it's sketchy to use one exchange as the index, and there is more liquidity in BTC/USD or BTC/CNY anyway
[2016-10-22 20:41:30] mjones : someone has been selling 1000 BTC keeping price low.
[2016-10-22 20:41:51] Rado : j8: I trade the instrument price, not BTC price
[2016-10-22 20:42:22] Rado : mjones: we need $10 correction so Incan close my small short ;)
[2016-10-22 20:42:27] arbitrage001 : Rado: hedgers need hedging instrument
[2016-10-22 20:43:06] j8 : ^ this. you can't hedge against BTC/JPY unless you withdraw in JPY
[2016-10-22 20:43:07] Rado : arbitrage001: true, it's harder to hedge
[2016-10-22 20:43:15] mjones : correction or this was 1st of 3 legs
[2016-10-22 20:44:13] Rado : j8: in theory you can hedge with BTC and usdjpy on currency market
[2016-10-22 20:44:31] j8 : sure, complicate my life
[2016-10-22 20:44:53] Rado : But I agree USD contract will be traded way more
[2016-10-22 20:45:16] Rado : Don't get why BitMEX is so stuck on JPY
[2016-10-22 20:45:32] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: The JPY conts are cross-traded on Quoine
[2016-10-22 20:46:05] BitMEX_Sam : So you can trade the same contracts here or there and hedge JPY delta if needed
[2016-10-22 20:46:44] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I know you need them for Quine deal, but that doesn't stop you from having USD contract as well
[2016-10-22 20:46:54] Rado : unless the deal doesn't allow you
[2016-10-22 20:47:12] BitMEX_Sam : No, has nothing to do with that - honestly, we found traders talk much more about wanting a USD quarterly than they actually trade it
[2016-10-22 20:47:26] BitMEX_Sam : Generally the quarterlies did not trade well.
[2016-10-22 20:47:52] BitMEX_Sam : We believe a JPY contract will trade more healthily due to the increased traffic from Quoine's userbase.
[2016-10-22 20:48:20] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: you can't judge by just listing them 2 times
[2016-10-22 20:48:23] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: increase traffic? have u seen any traffic from quoine's users on old quantos daily?
[2016-10-22 20:48:31] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: We've had USD quarterlies for the past few years
[2016-10-22 20:48:46] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Quoine's users are trading on Quoine's interface, but yes, we get a lot of signups from there
[2016-10-22 20:48:52] Rado : If you have November and December many people will trade spreads and the volume will increase
[2016-10-22 20:49:05] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially if you go to https://trade.quoine.com/ and click `FUTURES` in the header you get the XBJ markets.
[2016-10-22 20:49:35] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: how is Quoine volume?
[2016-10-22 20:49:40] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I'll bring it up with the other partners. I agree that JPY is not trading as well as we expected but I'm not certain that listing more instruments (and shoring liquidity for them) is the answer
[2016-10-22 20:49:50] BitMEX_Sam : As in, their spot volume, or XBJ?
[2016-10-22 20:49:51] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: i was trading that dailys and watching them pretty closely, didnt seen any good volume beside my own trading there up to 30k contracts limit of mm
[2016-10-22 20:49:52] j8 : i don't see the quarterly on quoine's interface.
[2016-10-22 20:50:41] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: just speaking for myself, but if there are more instruments I will trade more
[2016-10-22 20:50:51] Rado : let me give you an example
[2016-10-22 20:50:51] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You're correct. Their interface has been in flux, wonder what happened there.
[2016-10-22 20:50:53] BitMEX_Sam : I'll reach out to them.
[2016-10-22 20:51:34] Rado : I trade quarterly and swap, two different strategies
[2016-10-22 20:51:59] Rado : swap is not making me trade less of the quarterlies
[2016-10-22 20:52:11] Rado : if you add November I will trade even more
[2016-10-22 20:52:12] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, we're testing an order amend feature on https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-10-22 20:52:22] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Thanks for the feedback, I'll pass this on to the rest of the guys
[2016-10-22 20:52:26] BitMEX_Sam : We want to list what trades.
[2016-10-22 20:52:46] BitMEX_Sam : Re: Order Amend, if any of you have testnet accounts I'd love for you to try it before we roll it into the live site.
[2016-10-22 20:52:51] Rado : now I can't short on this pop because there is nothing to hedge against
[2016-10-22 20:52:58] Rado : only one long term contract
[2016-10-22 20:53:10] Rado : And swap doesn't work for that
[2016-10-22 20:53:38] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, I care a lot about ButMEX succeeding
[2016-10-22 20:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : :+1: Appreciate that
[2016-10-22 20:54:00] Rado : there is no other place that allows me to trade like here
[2016-10-22 20:54:13] miramm1115 : old quarterly quantos had decent open value but daily volume was not that high, as expected for long-term contract
[2016-10-22 20:54:48] miramm1115 : the main problem for MM is offering enough liquidity on the ask side
[2016-10-22 20:55:03] miramm1115 : for quantos, shouldn't be a problem on inverse
[2016-10-22 20:56:49] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: i just checked out the amend feature, the buttons are huge and the input box is really narrow
[2016-10-22 20:58:18] j8 : actually, on the Active Orders panel the column expands. on the XBTUSD panel it didn't
[2016-10-22 20:58:27] BitMEX_Sam : Which browser?
[2016-10-22 20:58:47] j8 : chrome
[2016-10-22 20:59:14] BitMEX_Sam : Ah I see, we have to set a min width if you have a narrower viewport. Thanks
[2016-10-22 21:02:16] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: if my position is closed because of ADL do I get charged commission?
[2016-10-22 21:03:22] j8 : perhaps the stop trigger price could be amendable also
[2016-10-22 21:10:22] Rado : j8: from the API?
[2016-10-22 21:10:50] Rado : Right now you have to cancel the order if you want to change the stop price?
[2016-10-22 21:10:51] j8 : it's already possible by api
[2016-10-22 21:11:01] Rado : Oh
[2016-10-22 21:11:10] Rado : so in here
[2016-10-22 21:11:18] Rado : yes that will be nice
[2016-10-22 21:11:31] Rado : I change my stop all the time
[2016-10-22 21:15:45] BitMEX_Sam : j8: You can modify stop prices as well
[2016-10-22 21:20:39] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: did you see my question about ADL and commissions
[2016-10-22 21:21:01] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I believe you get the maker rebate on ADL, I will confirm that however
[2016-10-22 21:21:13] Velancry : how low can u go
[2016-10-22 21:22:01] Rado : Thanks
[2016-10-22 21:24:35] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I can confirm, you are marked as a maker when ADL'd.
[2016-10-22 21:25:37] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: it looked like the stop price could be amended but not the trigger price, for stop limit orders
[2016-10-22 21:25:59] BitMEX_Sam : j8: The triggering price just shows the current mark or last price
[2016-10-22 21:26:10] BitMEX_Sam : You can't switch strategies, that is true.
[2016-10-22 21:26:20] BitMEX_Sam : But you can change your stop price.
[2016-10-22 21:27:19] j8 : gotcha, my mistake
[2016-10-22 21:29:52] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: cool, that's fare
[2016-10-22 22:08:31] BTCDJS : Rado: fair*
[2016-10-22 22:09:30] BTCDJS : learn how to spell ya fucking want stain
[2016-10-22 22:09:39] BTCDJS : wank
[2016-10-22 22:09:51] BTCDJS : as in spunk
[2016-10-22 22:09:57] BTCDJS : jizz
[2016-10-22 22:10:01] BTCDJS : cum
[2016-10-22 22:11:09] BTCDJS : semen
[2016-10-22 22:11:43] BTCDJS : just joking.
[2016-10-22 22:12:41] hazir : ahh when will someone buy my zcash at 0.207 :D waiting for hours gosh
[2016-10-22 22:13:03] hazir : then will probably be bummed out crazy people drive it even higher
[2016-10-22 22:13:24] hazir : lol order filled. tank you chat :D
[2016-10-22 22:13:31] BTCDJS : felt like trolling. And raising your aggression levels for fun. But I have no opinion about you for or against at all.
[2016-10-22 22:13:44] hazir : *tank
[2016-10-22 22:13:50] hazir : *thankkk
[2016-10-22 22:14:03] BTCDJS : because you don't matter.
[2016-10-22 22:14:13] BTCDJS : trolling again...
[2016-10-22 22:14:22] mjones : i might trade zec on friday
[2016-10-22 22:14:30] mjones : a lot of people mining = higher price
[2016-10-22 22:14:40] BTCDJS : mjones: shut the fuck up
[2016-10-22 22:15:04] mjones : say that again BTCDJS i want to see something
[2016-10-22 22:15:13] BTCDJS : mjones: no
[2016-10-22 22:15:25] BTCDJS : see with your eyes
[2016-10-22 22:15:28] mjones : i think the notification that popped up said fuck in it
[2016-10-22 22:15:49] mjones : it said f_uck
[2016-10-22 22:15:52] BTCDJS : mjones: yeah you can't say F8ck
[2016-10-22 22:16:02] BTCDJS : fuck
[2016-10-22 22:16:10] mjones : BTCDJS: fuck fuck fuck
[2016-10-22 22:16:24] BTCDJS : mjones: fuck you too
[2016-10-22 22:16:36] BTCDJS : bitch and cunt are allowed tho
[2016-10-22 22:16:38] mjones : ok thank you
[2016-10-22 22:16:52] mjones : anyways back to making money
[2016-10-22 22:16:54] BTCDJS : ah no they changed cunt
[2016-10-22 22:17:04] BTCDJS : c*nt
[2016-10-22 22:17:09] BTCDJS : not kitten
[2016-10-22 22:17:19] BTCDJS : damn
[2016-10-22 22:17:30] BTCDJS : thats my favourite word whore
[2016-10-22 22:17:50] BTCDJS : dick
[2016-10-22 22:17:58] BTCDJS : shit
[2016-10-22 22:18:19] BTCDJS : you can grab em by the pussy
[2016-10-22 22:18:24] justinlooking : kitten should not be censored if input contains rapid
[2016-10-22 22:18:28] justinlooking : clearly a bug
[2016-10-22 22:18:55] BTCDJS : justinlooking: nobody asked you
[2016-10-22 22:20:24] BTCDJS : K I'm done being a cunt
[2016-10-22 22:20:33] BTCDJS : sorry guys.
[2016-10-22 22:20:38] BTCDJS : ima go to bed
[2016-10-22 22:20:53] BTCDJS : love ya
[2016-10-22 22:21:45] BTCDJS : in a universal way. not a personal way. so don't get too excited. You're still alone in the world and nobody cares about you
[2016-10-22 22:24:47] justinlooking : yo BitMEX_Sam are u here?
[2016-10-22 22:25:36] justinlooking : could u generate a swagger go client plz
[2016-10-22 22:32:23] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Sure
[2016-10-22 22:32:49] BitMEX_Sam : You'll have to implement auth yourself, the generator projects only do endpoint & model boilerplate
[2016-10-22 22:32:57] BitMEX_Sam : See https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/tree/master/clients/go
[2016-10-22 22:34:14] justinlooking : thanks, sorry didn't spot that
[2016-10-22 22:34:35] BitMEX_Sam : No worries. You might be able to find other Go projects that consume swagger JSON as well
[2016-10-22 22:35:28] BitMEX_Sam : For instance, https://goswagger.io/generate/client.html
[2016-10-22 22:35:41] BitMEX_Sam : You can get the raw JSON from https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/swagger.json
[2016-10-22 22:43:16] Rado : BTC holding pretty good
[2016-10-22 22:45:26] zanza : this seems to be a Finex price spike
[2016-10-22 22:45:29] zanza : anyone agree?
[2016-10-22 22:46:09] sleger : depends what that is supposed to mean
[2016-10-22 22:46:17] zanza : Finex back to about 1/3 peak volume
[2016-10-22 22:47:38] j8 : surely it was china behind the move, and finex got bid up because there's no liquidity
[2016-10-22 22:48:49] Rado : zanza: I think it's Yuan devaluation
[2016-10-22 22:49:11] sleger : of course it is
[2016-10-22 22:49:32] j8 : yep
[2016-10-22 22:50:54] Rado : I am actually surprised Bitfinex volume is this high after the hack
[2016-10-22 22:51:20] Rado : 10k in the last 24h
[2016-10-22 22:53:12] Rado : sleger: what are you trading at the moment?
[2016-10-22 23:04:15] sleger : same as usual, btc and eth almost exclusively
[2016-10-22 23:04:59] aethlios : bitfinex bitmex top 2 for btcusd pair
[2016-10-22 23:12:36] rapidtrades : aethlios: we should be compared to futures not spot
[2016-10-22 23:13:56] j8 : sleger: still short ZEC?
[2016-10-22 23:14:16] rapidtrades : Rado: u shouldn't be, they fake the volume
[2016-10-22 23:14:25] rapidtrades : might as well say 20k
[2016-10-22 23:14:36] sleger : j8: no
[2016-10-22 23:14:46] rapidtrades : ha!
[2016-10-22 23:15:01] rapidtrades : they beat u
[2016-10-22 23:15:06] j8 : i stopped out for now also.
[2016-10-22 23:15:16] sleger : waiting for go live and sell higher
[2016-10-22 23:15:18] rapidtrades : they beat u too
[2016-10-22 23:15:22] rapidtrades : j8
[2016-10-22 23:15:26] j8 : let the idiots have their way
[2016-10-22 23:15:56] j8 : gotta pick your battles
[2016-10-22 23:15:57] rapidtrades : hey most ppl here count their stash in BTC
[2016-10-22 23:16:01] rapidtrades : how's the idiots
[2016-10-22 23:16:16] rapidtrades : are BTC and zCash really that far apart :)
[2016-10-22 23:18:02] j8 : i'm not a zcash hater, i would buy some, but i can wait a few months or more for the supply to catch up with the hype
[2016-10-22 23:20:01] billyboy402 : What the funding rate on eth mobile doesn't show it
[2016-10-22 23:20:28] rapidtrades : -0.08
[2016-10-22 23:23:32] BitMEX_Sam : billyboy402: It is shown, you have to unfold the Control Details tab under the order controls, though.
[2016-10-22 23:23:48] rapidtrades : billyboy402: btw YOU'RE WELCOME
[2016-10-22 23:23:57] rapidtrades : f douche
[2016-10-22 23:24:12] billyboy402 : Cheers
[2016-10-22 23:26:17] billyboy402 : Oh I see it . On PC it show it up the top with a clock . Mobile site is still a little ugly
[2016-10-22 23:26:22] billyboy402 : thx
[2016-10-22 23:29:13] rapidtrades : sleger: been a good year for option selling eh?
[2016-10-22 23:31:24] sleger : yes
[2016-10-22 23:32:30] rapidtrades : so fellas we go up to china or china goes down to our level?
[2016-10-22 23:33:15] rapidtrades : $11 premium atm
[2016-10-22 23:34:18] Velancry : rapidtrades: we always stay below
[2016-10-22 23:34:51] rapidtrades : not always no
[2016-10-22 23:34:53] j8 : china just goes totally flat after moves like this. it's kinda crazy
[2016-10-22 23:35:03] rapidtrades : only lately
[2016-10-22 23:35:45] rapidtrades : $31 premium on dec futures seems excessive
[2016-10-22 23:36:50] rapidtrades : here it's like $29...still a lot
[2016-10-22 23:38:49] j8 : difference is, the possible CNY deval will be corrected for in the long run. whereas you are actually short JPY if you buy here
[2016-10-22 23:38:55] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: is the PnL part of ADL position specific or account wide?
[2016-10-22 23:52:38] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Per-position
[2016-10-22 23:53:36] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: let's make it per account?
[2016-10-22 23:53:41] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: I have a pending deposit with more than one confirm and still not in my balance. When will it become available
[2016-10-22 23:53:57] rapidtrades : or per currency....like BTC, ETH etc
[2016-10-22 23:53:59] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: I'm looking into it now
[2016-10-22 23:54:13] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: awesome, thx.
[2016-10-22 23:54:33] rapidtrades : so we can arbs the Yens easier....cos let's face it, noone wants that currency exposure
[2016-10-22 23:59:25] BitMEX_Sam : martinium: You're good to go
[2016-10-22 23:59:38] martinium : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for your help.
[2016-10-23 00:02:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 196 @ 0.00589
[2016-10-23 00:04:48] Velancry : we just broke it ;O
[2016-10-23 00:11:16] qualquer : The Fees in the "Reference" page are up to date?
[2016-10-23 00:13:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2016-10-23 00:18:04] wurstgelee : this is the best type of bitcoin.
[2016-10-23 00:18:17] wurstgelee : the one that goes up while i am long and out having drinks
[2016-10-23 00:18:30] martinium : @BitMEX_Arthur does bitmex have a slack or only IRC channel?
[2016-10-23 00:20:16] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/support
[2016-10-23 00:20:40] BitMEX_Arthur : martinium: info about the IRC channel is there
[2016-10-23 00:21:13] martinium : yeah I see it I was asking whether you also have a slack group or only the IRC
[2016-10-23 00:21:25] Velancry : 4555 here we go
[2016-10-23 00:24:33] mjones : double topping.
[2016-10-23 00:25:37] mjones : new high.
[2016-10-23 00:25:42] mjones : lets get another round of margin calls going
[2016-10-23 00:25:45] Velancry : mjones: happy ending
[2016-10-23 00:26:17] mjones : ltc/btc almost new low for first time in 3 1/2 years
[2016-10-23 00:28:12] sleger : wow
[2016-10-23 00:28:29] sleger : someone bought up to 682
[2016-10-23 00:28:33] Velancry : if this continue I have doubled my wallet today
[2016-10-23 00:29:15] Bacon futures trader : lmao
[2016-10-23 00:29:33] Shoes : I bought market went to 671
[2016-10-23 00:29:48] sleger : someone market bought around 260k contracts
[2016-10-23 00:29:50] j8 : wow
[2016-10-23 00:29:57] Velancry : shit
[2016-10-23 00:30:07] Shoes : Lets go baby
[2016-10-23 00:30:10] sleger : i sold some ar 680, thanks
[2016-10-23 00:30:28] wurstgelee : the fomo is strong
[2016-10-23 00:30:30] j8 : was too slow for that
[2016-10-23 00:30:38] wurstgelee : so are my drinks
[2016-10-23 00:30:45] wurstgelee : a perfect storm
[2016-10-23 00:30:46] wurstgelee : :D
[2016-10-23 00:30:47] martinium : that was a monster spike
[2016-10-23 00:30:48] Shoes : Lol
[2016-10-23 00:30:52] martinium : beautiful
[2016-10-23 00:30:54] MCT : not to self, keep a crazy order open
[2016-10-23 00:31:48] wurstgelee : so...who did panic-market-close his massive long?
[2016-10-23 00:31:50] Shoes : No real dip today this is nice
[2016-10-23 00:32:01] sleger : wurstgelee: think again
[2016-10-23 00:32:02] wurstgelee : short ofc