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[2016-10-06 10:19:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 13 @ 0.011695
[2016-10-06 10:19:27] wurstgelee : did REP MM ragequit? :p
[2016-10-06 10:24:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 113 @ 0.02076
[2016-10-06 10:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 20 @ 0.02073
[2016-10-06 10:27:51] justinlooking : sell eth buy xmr, wtf is it opposite day
[2016-10-06 10:40:18] Airmike : guys , could you share link where can I find interest rate during the day on XBTUSD
[2016-10-06 10:40:22] Airmike : ?
[2016-10-06 10:40:26] Airmike : thanks
[2016-10-06 10:41:08] Airmike : funding rate I guess
[2016-10-06 10:41:12] Airmike : I can not find it
[2016-10-06 10:42:02] Airmike : oh I found it
[2016-10-06 10:42:11] Airmike : :)
[2016-10-06 10:42:37] Airmike : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-10-06 10:43:18] Airmike : so if this number is 0.0360%
[2016-10-06 10:43:25] Airmike : then I make money ?
[2016-10-06 10:43:49] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: could u call for mm on rep :)?
[2016-10-06 10:44:58] wurstgelee : habibi: that would be helpful
[2016-10-06 10:45:08] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-06 10:49:35] habibi : untradeable shit as long as mm will hunt people
[2016-10-06 10:52:59] jung1 : Shortsighted people once laughed at the idea of a $1,000 Bitcoin. Today they laugh at the idea of a 1,000MB block
[2016-10-06 10:54:09] habibi : yea yea keep quoting Ver
[2016-10-06 10:54:22] messiaen8844 : Ver is clueless
[2016-10-06 10:54:30] messiaen8844 : or has hidden agendas
[2016-10-06 10:54:34] messiaen8844 : promoting his altcoins
[2016-10-06 10:54:42] messiaen8844 : big big XMR and ETH pumper
[2016-10-06 10:54:42] habibi : sadly agre
[2016-10-06 10:54:46] habibi : agree*
[2016-10-06 10:54:55] messiaen8844 : once BTC breaks, he will say things are allright
[2016-10-06 10:55:03] messiaen8844 : because he will be long btc
[2016-10-06 10:55:23] jung1 : cmon its true
[2016-10-06 10:55:27] jung1 : really good quote
[2016-10-06 10:55:50] jung1 : bitcoin already died several times
[2016-10-06 10:56:11] jung1 : and imo in future there will be no chain to rule them all
[2016-10-06 10:56:51] habibi : jung1: compared to his Starbucks quote its a good quote, nothing more
[2016-10-06 10:56:54] jung1 : and better to make hype around such coins as xmr or eth than doge or other jokes
[2016-10-06 10:58:46] jung1 : and 1gb blocks are not impossible in future
[2016-10-06 10:59:24] jung1 : internet is faster and cheaper day by day, storage are bigger
[2016-10-06 10:59:32] jung1 : there wil be no problem with this
[2016-10-06 10:59:34] jung1 : at all
[2016-10-06 10:59:58] wurstgelee : seriously... REP MM ffs ;)
[2016-10-06 11:00:16] jung1 : like 15 years ago PCs had like 4gb disk space
[2016-10-06 11:01:14] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: couuld u?
[2016-10-06 11:04:08] habibi : eh thanks for ur respond that tells a lot :D
[2016-10-06 11:06:58] messiaen8844 : don't buy the bitcoin populist agenda, understand the technicals, blockchain is hard as fuck to scale
[2016-10-06 11:07:09] messiaen8844 : and no one found the solution yet
[2016-10-06 11:07:26] messiaen8844 : for massive scaling
[2016-10-06 11:08:24] jung1 : lightning network looks very promissing
[2016-10-06 11:08:34] habibi : lol
[2016-10-06 11:08:38] messiaen8844 : it's a tradeoff, you can scale by centralizing
[2016-10-06 11:08:45] messiaen8844 : look how ETH is centralized
[2016-10-06 11:10:42] dasdfasdf : but it is noncustodial
[2016-10-06 11:10:52] dasdfasdf : lightning nodes cant steal funds
[2016-10-06 11:12:25] wurstgelee : any admin here?
[2016-10-06 11:15:56] jung1 : https://news.bitcoin.com/factom-series-funding-deal-tim-draper/
[2016-10-06 11:16:32] BitMEX_Jinming : wurstgelee: Hello
[2016-10-06 11:18:45] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Jinming: all fine, situation resolved itself
[2016-10-06 11:18:48] wurstgelee : thanks anyways ;)
[2016-10-06 11:19:10] BitMEX_Jinming : wurstgelee: cool :)
[2016-10-06 11:56:25] Guest44061 : hi
[2016-10-06 13:33:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.010950
[2016-10-06 13:45:30] mjones : i love when multiple BTC blocks are found in a short amount of time
[2016-10-06 14:33:45] RocketScience : somebody shorted 2k augur and market spread is awful now :O
[2016-10-06 14:34:14] habibi : technically closed long
[2016-10-06 14:34:33] RocketScience : So i am caught here with my short :O
[2016-10-06 14:34:58] RocketScience : the same thing happened to factom at big dump to 300k...spread was from 300 to 400
[2016-10-06 14:41:18] RocketScience : market maker returned
[2016-10-06 15:06:36] dasdfasdf : anyones orders getting canceled weird, saying it would put into liquidation
[2016-10-06 15:09:45] BitMEX_Wally : dasdfasdf: If you are long, you cannot submit a sell order that would cause you to lose more than you have
[2016-10-06 15:10:26] dasdfasdf : im short trying to go further short
[2016-10-06 15:10:34] dasdfasdf : the order sat out there for a few minutes
[2016-10-06 15:11:04] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh, if you are short you cannot put a sell order above your liquidation price
[2016-10-06 15:11:11] BitMEX_Wally : Basically you cannot catch your own liquidations
[2016-10-06 15:14:35] dasdfasdf : That should not have been the case. It let me put the order in, never was close to my liquidation price
[2016-10-06 15:16:18] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, so the issue in this case was an order cancelation rather than a rejection. You placed an order to sell at 0.0207 when the mark price was 0.0208. This means if the order was filled you would suffer a loss of 0.0001, but that was ok you had available balance to cover it. However the mark price rose to 0.02085 and you no longer had enough margin so the order was cancelled
[2016-10-06 15:24:05] dasdfasdf : my est liquidation price was above 0.021
[2016-10-06 15:38:00] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: is there any particular order for the tabs with all the contracts
[2016-10-06 15:40:43] sleger : semi-alphabetical
[2016-10-06 15:46:06] Rado : lol
[2016-10-06 15:46:12] Rado : not even that
[2016-10-06 15:46:23] Rado : I don't think it's popularity either
[2016-10-06 15:46:52] BitMEX_Sam : It generally goes by popularity, but with some of the new coins less-so.
[2016-10-06 15:47:04] BitMEX_Sam : It's a hardcoded sort order in the trading engine, we just echo it back.
[2016-10-06 15:47:28] Rado : works for now
[2016-10-06 15:47:43] Rado : but when you add more you might want to think of a better way to organize them
[2016-10-06 15:48:28] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah we're getting to that point.
[2016-10-06 15:48:46] Rado : maybe even provide an alternative view which will group swap, 24H, 7D, 3M
[2016-10-06 15:49:59] laisee : allow users to hide completely some coins, like other exchanges
[2016-10-06 15:50:09] Rado : ZEC is crazy
[2016-10-06 15:50:15] Rado : when is ZEC coming out?
[2016-10-06 15:50:20] Rado : can't wait to short it
[2016-10-06 15:50:25] laisee : Xmas day
[2016-10-06 15:50:29] habibi : tomorrow
[2016-10-06 15:50:41] Rado : habibi: tomorrow?
[2016-10-06 15:50:46] trestres : BitMEX_Sam: any chance to have also perpetual on XRP and REP ?
[2016-10-06 15:51:15] habibi : Rado: nope
[2016-10-06 15:51:22] BitMEX_Sam : trestres: Possibly, but we find in practice that alt swaps don't trade very well due to funding rate swings.
[2016-10-06 15:51:46] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: agreed, 7D works much better for alts
[2016-10-06 15:52:13] Rado : actually you should switch LSK, FCT and ETH to 7D
[2016-10-06 15:52:46] trestres : one more question... how is made funding for LSK iif there are no rates on POLO?
[2016-10-06 15:55:39] BitMEX_Wally : The base LSK interest rate is treated as 0 but there's still the XBT rate and the LSKXBT premium index
[2016-10-06 15:56:46] BitMEX_Greg : trestres: Take a look over: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Premium--Discount-Component
[2016-10-06 15:57:05] trestres : tnks
[2016-10-06 16:05:27] RocketScience : So i am the only one in XRP...
[2016-10-06 16:07:34] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: so everything is now on deleveraging?
[2016-10-06 16:10:44] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Yes
[2016-10-06 16:12:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 98 @ 0.011828
[2016-10-06 16:14:34] RocketScience : xmr /rep parity
[2016-10-06 17:09:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: Sell 26877 @ 0.00001 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-10-06 17:14:06] habibi : maybe increase contract value by 10 or 100 in xrp to make it look better :p
[2016-10-06 17:14:22] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we wanted to keep prices at parity with Polo etc so there is less confusion.
[2016-10-06 17:14:33] BitMEX_Sam : I don't like the four leading zeroes either.
[2016-10-06 17:17:24] RocketScience : there will be 5 leading zeros if xrp doesn't get it's act together!
[2016-10-06 17:30:49] BitMEX_Greg : RocketScience: lol
[2016-10-06 17:31:11] BitMEX_Greg : Thoughts about price? I feel like it's time for a dump
[2016-10-06 17:31:50] RocketScience : It would full retrace even if it would be adopted by advanced alien civilization
[2016-10-06 17:37:32] BitMEX_Greg : You think it's fizzled out already?
[2016-10-06 17:50:21] wurstgelee : no coin loves it's retraces like XRP does
[2016-10-06 17:50:26] wurstgelee : that is a fact
[2016-10-06 17:50:30] wurstgelee : DGB comes 2nd
[2016-10-06 17:52:49] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2016-10-06 17:53:32] cryptobull : Why haven't you guys added dash & doge yet? :)
[2016-10-06 17:54:00] BitMEX_Greg : cryptobull: Dash isn't really popular anymore, neither Doge
[2016-10-06 17:54:48] cryptobull : BitMEX_Greg: ok :)
[2016-10-06 17:59:32] RocketScience : XRP shouldn't go below 1100, but who knows
[2016-10-06 18:03:58] mjones : Xmr yesss
[2016-10-06 18:04:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.012111
[2016-10-06 18:05:11] mjones : Now we wait for noobs to sell and knock price down
[2016-10-06 19:52:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 101 @ 0.01073
[2016-10-06 19:59:35] jordanbitfort : anybody want to put up some buy orders on REP ;^) i dont wanna dump the whole book
[2016-10-06 19:59:54] BitMEX_Greg : Nice discount right now
[2016-10-06 20:00:43] Kalman : jordanbitfort: put it where it belongs
[2016-10-06 20:12:35] rapidtrades : who wants to sue bitfinex?
[2016-10-06 20:12:40] rapidtrades : they may get the money
[2016-10-06 20:13:10] rapidtrades : cmon u ballless faggots
[2016-10-06 20:13:24] rapidtrades : u have almost nothing to lose
[2016-10-06 20:14:28] justinlooking : how's backtesting going rapid?
[2016-10-06 20:14:32] habibi : jordanbitfort: u know settlement in 15 hours ?
[2016-10-06 20:14:45] rapidtrades : slow that's how @justinlooking
[2016-10-06 20:15:47] justinlooking : what duration and resolution are you using?
[2016-10-06 20:16:10] rapidtrades : u mean timeframe or what
[2016-10-06 20:16:14] rapidtrades : and what is resolution
[2016-10-06 20:17:04] justinlooking : yes, eg 200 days worth of 5 min intervals
[2016-10-06 20:17:58] rapidtrades : hmmm well lately ive been doing monthly charts for the past 10 years mainly
[2016-10-06 20:18:04] rapidtrades : on forex
[2016-10-06 20:23:13] justinlooking : u really need to find/build some tools for that
[2016-10-06 20:29:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `REP7D`: Buy 42 @ 0.01103
[2016-10-06 20:41:19] mjones : 11 million REP. so are we shorting it
[2016-10-06 20:43:02] mjones : of course the n00bs in xmr are back. pumps to 0.0121 so lets dump 2 hours later at 0.014
[2016-10-06 20:43:25] mjones : 0.0114
[2016-10-06 20:43:38] habibi : everytime market goes opposite u, u call them noobs?
[2016-10-06 20:43:55] mjones : i'm just salty i didn't close when i was over 100% in profit knowing settlement is tomorrow
[2016-10-06 20:44:47] mjones : i was hoping it'd go crazy and pump to like 0.014 not to 0.012 and then almost full retrace
[2016-10-06 20:45:17] mjones : anyways. back to looking at charts
[2016-10-06 21:15:02] sq : btc looks like a buy here
[2016-10-06 21:15:47] messiaen8844 : mark pricce looks wrong for rep7D
[2016-10-06 21:16:09] messiaen8844 : polo ar 0.0124
[2016-10-06 21:16:14] messiaen8844 : ?
[2016-10-06 21:17:20] messiaen8844 : ah, 30m average ?
[2016-10-06 21:19:23] BitMEX_Greg : messiaen8844: the Mark price is based off Fair Price Marking: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Perpetual-Contracts
[2016-10-06 21:19:32] BitMEX_Greg : Sorry that link is for swap contracts
[2016-10-06 21:19:48] BitMEX_Greg : This is the futures link: (or just scroll down): https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#Calculation-of-Fair-Price-for-Futures-Contracts
[2016-10-06 21:20:02] BitMEX_Greg : There is a % Fair Basis currently included
[2016-10-06 21:21:47] messiaen8844 : thanks
[2016-10-06 21:23:08] wurstgelee : wtf is wrong with the REP orderbook?
[2016-10-06 21:23:21] wurstgelee : looking funny almost all day
[2016-10-06 21:26:42] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: What is funny about it
[2016-10-06 21:27:17] habibi : BitMEX_Greg: spread for example
[2016-10-06 21:27:20] wurstgelee : extremely lopsided all day
[2016-10-06 21:27:22] wurstgelee : also spread
[2016-10-06 21:27:23] habibi : or only mm making only bid side
[2016-10-06 21:27:25] habibi : or sell side
[2016-10-06 21:27:27] habibi : or none
[2016-10-06 21:27:32] wurstgelee : exactly
[2016-10-06 21:27:34] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-06 21:28:35] BitMEX_Greg : habibi: Guessing they are hitting their limits
[2016-10-06 21:28:48] BitMEX_Greg : No borrow on REP
[2016-10-06 21:28:53] BitMEX_Greg : limited supply
[2016-10-06 21:29:06] habibi : hm it would be ok if only sell side would be there
[2016-10-06 21:29:07] BitMEX_Greg : He can't be constantly bid is my guess
[2016-10-06 21:29:16] BitMEX_Greg : looks like ask side is in
[2016-10-06 21:29:32] habibi : but then again, at some point only bid side was there so i guess he was trying to encourage bottom shorters to show on bid side
[2016-10-06 21:29:46] mjones : cant refill the side that gets taken out over and over. if price falls they get mega rekt
[2016-10-06 21:40:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.16060 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-06 21:46:07] mjones : what kind of insider info is making people buy up zec
[2016-10-06 21:46:20] mjones : till 3 weeks away from launch
[2016-10-06 22:04:34] pigeons : i just keep hearing, better buy some to sell to the greater fool
[2016-10-06 22:09:31] mjones : i mean this could open at $100
[2016-10-06 22:10:46] BitMEX_Sam : It seems euphoria-driven to me, but we'll see
[2016-10-06 22:11:35] pigeons : the mining is poorly thought out. the guy with the most efficent miner and most equipment will get all of it except the 20% founder not-a-premine
[2016-10-06 22:12:31] BitMEX_Sam : pigeons: Well, it seems pretty well thought-out to me, in terms of attempting to prevent advantageous GPU & ASIC mining
[2016-10-06 22:12:46] BitMEX_Sam : However from my understanding the reference CPU miner is as much as 10x slower than an optimized implementation, and GPU miners are already in the wild
[2016-10-06 22:13:03] BitMEX_Sam : They're not a *huge* amount faster than an optimized CPU implementation afaik but it's enough to sow doubt
[2016-10-06 22:14:40] pigeons : there are lots of issues, it is a huge amount faster. 2 boxes gets like 90% more blocks than one even ignoring gpu/cpu
[2016-10-06 22:15:02] pigeons : i'm sorry i mean like more than twice as much not 90%
[2016-10-06 22:15:15] pigeons : the whole thing is a big mess
[2016-10-06 22:17:38] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: many diffrent reports from private guys making own gpu miners but some of them tells 10x more than optimized cpu one
[2016-10-06 22:19:12] BitMEX_Sam : pigeons: The hash timing is pretty crazy, I've seen about 40s per thread, as much as 190s per thread on ARM cores which is basically useless given 150s block timing
[2016-10-06 22:19:21] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: I believe it. And they'll keep it to themselves
[2016-10-06 22:38:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.01120
[2016-10-06 22:50:27] WhaleDeluxe : So why is REP lower than on Poloniex? Because you can only short it here? Will it converge closer to expiration?
[2016-10-06 22:52:40] BitMEX_Greg : WhaleDeluxe: That's pretty much the reason. More shorting here so its pushing the price down here
[2016-10-06 22:55:41] mjones : @WhaleDeluxe settlement happens in 13 hours. so people betting price will go down within 13 hours
[2016-10-06 22:55:56] mjones : pretty much pure gambling i say
[2016-10-06 23:28:27] BombaUcigasa : I like the new #rekt progress bar...
[2016-10-07 00:04:34] mjones : seems it was tweaked recently
[2016-10-07 00:04:57] mjones : or maybe more people are in xmr
[2016-10-07 00:24:32] zanza : rapidtrades: did you see that cable crash ?
[2016-10-07 00:34:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 63457.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-07 00:40:11] rapidtrades : zanza: yes
[2016-10-07 03:46:33] mjones : Yes xmr new high
[2016-10-07 03:59:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 31 @ 0.12000
[2016-10-07 03:59:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 10 @ 0.11709
[2016-10-07 04:00:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 10 @ 0.09793
[2016-10-07 04:00:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 1 @ 0.09715 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-07 04:00:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 7 @ 0.09403
[2016-10-07 04:00:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 13 @ 0.08979
[2016-10-07 04:00:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 4 @ 0.09688 :punch: :whale:
[2016-10-07 04:06:18] Tetsuo : lololololol, i guess BTC parity is delayed for a few hours@zcash
[2016-10-07 04:11:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECZ16`: Sell 7 @ 0.10139
[2016-10-07 05:30:32] Tetsuo : nice funding rate@lisk
[2016-10-07 06:13:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 348 @ 0.11781
[2016-10-07 06:14:34] j8 : that's weird
[2016-10-07 06:20:35] Tetsuo : we call it fun
[2016-10-07 06:27:13] j8 : someone just threw away ~16 btc dumping ZEC and getting liquidated
[2016-10-07 06:28:23] rapidtrades : sleger?
[2016-10-07 06:28:53] lord : why the hell was i liquidated after a price increase of 50% if i just have a 1x leverage? I don't get it...
[2016-10-07 06:30:11] rapidtrades : autodeleveraging?
[2016-10-07 06:30:39] rapidtrades : lord: did u win?
[2016-10-07 06:30:44] lord : yes
[2016-10-07 06:31:33] lord : but I wanted to keep the contracts, who can just decide to close them? I thought I have a bet with others here...
[2016-10-07 06:32:35] BitMEX_Arthur : lord: Please send us a support ticket and we can look into your specific question.
[2016-10-07 06:32:52] lord : this is very general
[2016-10-07 06:33:37] lord : is there any way, to not getting auto leveraged?
[2016-10-07 06:33:39] BitMEX_Arthur : Please read this document to learn more about the auto deleveraging process https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2016-10-07 06:34:12] BitMEX_Arthur : lord: No there is no way to completely avoid it, this feature is integral to us being able to offer high leveraged products
[2016-10-07 06:35:43] rapidtrades : not cool man...he got closed at 1 leverage cos he made a profit
[2016-10-07 06:38:25] martyix : Hi, I'm interested in AllOrNone type of order (as specified in https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_new) and it says that order then has to specify displayQty = 0.
[2016-10-07 06:38:28] lord : yea and now I can only buy more expensive
[2016-10-07 06:38:46] martyix : So anyone can put hidden orders (i.e. order with displayQty = 0)?
[2016-10-07 06:40:38] BitMEX_Arthur : martyix: Can you submit a support ticket, someone will help you with that
[2016-10-07 06:41:23] martyix : OK, I'll send a ticket. Thanks
[2016-10-07 06:53:46] no : from: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveragingExamples "Accounts 6 and 5 will be deleveraged at the bankruptcy price of USD 650. Account 6 will have their entire position of 10 contracts closed, while the remaining 10 contracts from the short liquidation will be assigned to account 5." There must be something I'm missing, if a short of 20 contracts needs to be closed out, should account 3 be deleveraged?
[2016-10-07 06:54:21] no : shouldn't account 3 be deleveraged*
[2016-10-07 06:59:36] BitMEX_Arthur : 3 has the lowest PNL Ranking
[2016-10-07 06:59:42] BitMEX_Arthur : so it will be deleveraged last
[2016-10-07 07:03:35] Tetsuo : In your announcemnet you state that´s it´s all about the level of leverage :"ADL deleverages the highest-leveraged traders who thus pose the biggest risk for other traders. " "Under the ADL system, traders with the highest leverage will be deleveraged first, incentivising lower leverage traders to trade without penalty."
[2016-10-07 07:04:43] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: I have replied to your ticket. Basically anyone can send `displayQty=0` if they want an order to be hidden from the order book.
[2016-10-07 07:05:16] BitMEX_Wally : If you have `execInst=AllOrNone` then we require the order to be hidden from the order book otherwise it would give a false impression of liquidity (i.e. a bid that could not be partially hit)
[2016-10-07 07:06:23] martyix : Thank you very much. Could please tell me, if I can put an order with minQty? I mean if I can say that I want an order and minimum filled quantity must be X.
[2016-10-07 07:07:07] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: We don't support minQty, basically `AllOrNone` or `FillOrKill` are th same as `minQty=orderQty`
[2016-10-07 07:08:04] martyix : Basically yes, but there is still a difference. Thanks!
[2016-10-07 07:08:50] martyix : (I mean d difference from what I would like to accomplish. However, this gives me enough options. Good.)
[2016-10-07 07:12:08] BitMEX_Wally : We support OneTriggersTheOther orders, so you could have an AllOrNone order that when filled triggers another order
[2016-10-07 07:13:09] martyix : Ah, good to know. Thank you
[2016-10-07 07:15:38] lord : whats with the session limit up price?
[2016-10-07 07:26:20] XXXX : BitMEX_Wally: what is the DAILY funding rate for ZEZZ16 if my margin is less than 1%?
[2016-10-07 07:26:38] XXXX : BitMEX_Wally: ZECZ16
[2016-10-07 07:27:44] BitMEX_Wally : XXXX: Funding rate only applies to swaps. ZECZ16 is a future so there is no funding rate
[2016-10-07 07:28:51] XXXX : So lets say if i have ZECZ16 future open till 30 dec i dont have to pay any interest?
[2016-10-07 07:30:03] no : BitMEX_Arthur: Okay, then should account 2 and 5 be deleveraged?
[2016-10-07 07:30:31] no : well, only 10 from account 5
[2016-10-07 07:33:48] martyix : Is it possible to use both "ParticipateDoNotInitiate" and "AllOrNone" at the same time?
[2016-10-07 07:33:53] martyix : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_new
[2016-10-07 07:34:26] no : that is, account 2 and 5 instead of 6 and 5
[2016-10-07 07:38:32] lord : why are all my orders canceled?
[2016-10-07 07:39:26] BitMEX_Jinming : no: account 2 and 5 are ranked top, so are deleveraged first.
[2016-10-07 07:41:27] BitMEX_Jinming : lord: which instruments?
[2016-10-07 07:41:42] lord : i am talking about the session limit up price
[2016-10-07 07:42:07] lord : there are orders that are not buyable
[2016-10-07 07:42:13] lord : makes no sence
[2016-10-07 07:45:54] j8 : limit up/down is only on ZECZ16, because it's marked to last price. it's pretty necessary, otherwise you could have crazy liquidations from people manipulating thin orderbooks
[2016-10-07 07:45:58] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: Yes just comma separate them, so `execInst= AllOrNone, ParticipateDoNotInitiate`
[2016-10-07 07:46:09] martyix : Thanks!
[2016-10-07 07:46:10] rapidtrades : why is profit the first criteria? these rules don't make sesne
[2016-10-07 07:46:18] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry, no space `execInst= AllOrNone,ParticipateDoNotInitiate`
[2016-10-07 07:46:30] martyix : I see
[2016-10-07 07:46:34] rapidtrades : that's not how Bitvic does deleveraging
[2016-10-07 07:50:38] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: We did aim to copy BitVC completely
[2016-10-07 07:51:09] BitMEX_Arthur : sorry did not
[2016-10-07 07:52:02] BitMEX_Jinming : rapidtrades: Both profit and leverage are considered in the deleverage ranking.
[2016-10-07 07:58:26] KyllingLolsson : How do i see rebalance countdown on mobile?
[2016-10-07 07:58:44] rapidtrades : but u first close all positions that show a profit...only once those are closed are losing trades deleveraged...isn't that accurate? @BitMEX_Jinming
[2016-10-07 08:01:17] BitMEX_Jinming : rapidtrades: profit positions are always deleveraged before losing ones (that's all other exchanges are doing). However, among the profit ones, leverage can impact the ranking.
[2016-10-07 08:02:45] Tetsuo : Then maybe you should rewrite your latest announcement, cuz it only mentions leverage as factor
[2016-10-07 08:04:19] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Jinming: are u sure that's how Bitvc does it? sleger said that's not accurate
[2016-10-07 08:05:13] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/bitvc-swaps-socialized-futures-losses-for-new-risk-system/
[2016-10-07 08:05:30] rapidtrades : ^ that article only mentions leverage
[2016-10-07 08:10:12] BitMEX_Arthur : KyllingLolsson: Rebalance or Settlement?
[2016-10-07 08:11:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Rebalance does not exist any more. We do have a countdown for Settlement (Futures) and to the next Funding (Swaps).
[2016-10-07 08:15:02] BitMEX_Jinming : rapidtrades: here is the details what they are doing: http://8btc.com/thread-14788-1-1.html
[2016-10-07 08:32:44] Tetsuo : rapidtrades has no chinese degree
[2016-10-07 08:43:47] BitMEX_Jinming : google translator supports instant translation via camera @Tetsuo
[2016-10-07 09:06:10] rapidtrades : ok so if I place stop market order that triggers on index price, will my entire order be executed on market?
[2016-10-07 09:06:23] rapidtrades : it seems that I can't specify a limit
[2016-10-07 09:06:36] rapidtrades : oh nvm...im an idiot
[2016-10-07 09:10:00] Kalman : Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius
[2016-10-07 09:11:50] rapidtrades : that index price is a nice touch
[2016-10-07 10:08:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 785 @ 0.01185
[2016-10-07 10:18:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 147 @ 0.01148
[2016-10-07 10:18:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.01141
[2016-10-07 10:48:01] Tetsuo : byebye alts
[2016-10-07 10:53:56] laisee : reputation trashed, like some trolls
[2016-10-07 10:57:56] Techemy : so bitcoin going to 670 or what?
[2016-10-07 10:58:30] rapidtrades : maybe? what's it to u?
[2016-10-07 10:59:47] laisee : a few mins of light humour, is all
[2016-10-07 11:00:34] Techemy : haha
[2016-10-07 11:00:56] Techemy : just guaging sentiment
[2016-10-07 11:02:14] laisee : Techemy: 666 is the number to watch.
[2016-10-07 11:02:47] wurstgelee : i plan to close somehwhere north of 650
[2016-10-07 11:02:51] wurstgelee : *-h
[2016-10-07 11:02:53] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-10-07 11:07:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 3268 @ 0.011172
[2016-10-07 11:08:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1000 @ 0.02044
[2016-10-07 11:08:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2333 @ 0.02050
[2016-10-07 11:12:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2300 @ 0.02039
[2016-10-07 11:53:29] jeeburns : can't seem to make a profitable trade despite consecutively buying low and selling higher thanks to this "mark price" apparently I need do hold loonger
[2016-10-07 11:54:53] BitMEX_Wally : jeeburns: The mark price only affects your unrealised PNL. If you buy low and sell high then your profit/loss is determined by your entry and exit prices, and any trading fees or funding fees
[2016-10-07 11:55:53] jeeburns : so if I sell at a higher price than I bought at, despite the unrealized being red, it will still be profitable?
[2016-10-07 11:57:22] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, so long as you sell 0.075% higher to cover any fees etc
[2016-10-07 12:10:34] kumarz : Fees and funding... Killing me softly too
[2016-10-07 12:13:14] jeeburns : ok thank you!
[2016-10-07 12:18:32] MrJ1m : soo, still no btc 3M around here
[2016-10-07 12:25:59] mjones : just noticed ETC hit a new low. the only guy holding the price up has 600 BTC stacked down to 0.0015
[2016-10-07 12:33:34] habibi : 1850 was lowest point
[2016-10-07 13:01:23] rapidtrades : dam not much follow-through on that breakout
[2016-10-07 13:14:54] mjones : REP dump. sucks cryptowatch hasnt added the poloniex market.
[2016-10-07 13:31:01] Boontjie : rapidtrades: yet
[2016-10-07 13:36:21] zanza : wasn't he defending .0001 ?
[2016-10-07 13:36:30] zanza : is it the hacker btw
[2016-10-07 13:48:35] Chimpindeed : way to go bitmex bots
[2016-10-07 13:52:22] mjones : bummer. no coins moving enough to trade right now
[2016-10-07 13:54:51] Chimpindeed : bots will take you out eventually .... theres your movement.
[2016-10-07 13:56:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 11424 @ 63926.0
[2016-10-07 14:25:27] wurstgelee : no coins moving?
[2016-10-07 14:25:28] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-10-07 14:25:45] wurstgelee : downwards is a move too....
[2016-10-07 14:28:13] mjones : REP might mega dump
[2016-10-07 14:30:01] MrRGnome : mjones: maybe, I'm personally betting above 0.009 holds for the short term. I'm buying, so feel free to rub it in my face if it does crash
[2016-10-07 14:32:21] wurstgelee : waiting for it to go sub 0.01, then i will buy
[2016-10-07 14:32:47] wurstgelee : means i agree with MrRGnome
[2016-10-07 14:32:49] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-10-07 14:32:55] MrRGnome : I like to get a little bit in before the major resistance incase it bounces off it, and cost average the rest of what I anticipate a reasonable drop would be
[2016-10-07 14:48:44] wurstgelee : longed some
[2016-10-07 14:48:47] wurstgelee : just in case
[2016-10-07 14:48:50] wurstgelee : ready to add more ;)
[2016-10-07 14:49:56] MrRGnome : Yeah same. gl
[2016-10-07 14:50:51] wurstgelee : i like to think it's less luck than buying here actually is. but thank you ;)
[2016-10-07 14:51:16] wurstgelee : same 2 u ofc
[2016-10-07 14:51:19] wurstgelee : :p
[2016-10-07 14:51:34] MrRGnome : It's all luck, any of these suckers could tank unexpectedly due to a security issue or worse.
[2016-10-07 14:52:23] wurstgelee : yeah ofc. i dont consider that option normally tho
[2016-10-07 14:53:00] wurstgelee : after all, it's a really rare event
[2016-10-07 14:53:55] MrRGnome : The risk that the coin I am trading, or god forbid bitmex, goes under is always a risk on the back of my mind. It only has to happen once to wipe you out, I've narrowly avoided 3 exchange failures by days so I'm somewhat paranoid maybe.
[2016-10-07 14:53:57] wurstgelee : also it's unpredictable and random (unless insider knowledge ofc) so no way to put tat into the equation
[2016-10-07 14:54:59] wurstgelee : never got fucked by major hacks or exchanges going down - luckily - but to get fully wiped out, i would have to have all funds at one exchange
[2016-10-07 14:55:17] wurstgelee : if u do that, u deserve to get rekt imo. at least a little bit ;)
[2016-10-07 14:55:31] MrRGnome : I put it into my equation in the form of only moving substantial funds to bitmex when I am needing a significant cost averaging due to a poor position, like monero I got caught in that horrible dump recently and had to deposit more btc to keep cost averaging down. When i got out with my profit eventually I then withdrew the btc that night. That kind of thing.
[2016-10-07 14:55:50] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: yep :)
[2016-10-07 14:56:44] wurstgelee : no need to keep unused btw at a place u dont control 100% imo
[2016-10-07 14:56:55] wurstgelee : *btc not btw
[2016-10-07 14:56:56] MrRGnome : Absolutely.
[2016-10-07 15:34:39] MrRGnome : What happened tot he REP order book? There's a .002 spread!
[2016-10-07 15:35:46] wurstgelee : yep, happens from time to time
[2016-10-07 15:35:54] wurstgelee : MM vanishes on moves and returns sometimes later
[2016-10-07 15:35:59] wurstgelee : annoying, isnt it?
[2016-10-07 15:36:24] mjones : yeah
[2016-10-07 15:37:14] habibi : yep, trading becomes uncomfortable with this actions
[2016-10-07 15:50:29] mjones : mm came back on one side of the orderbook
[2016-10-07 16:07:05] mjones : now xmr orderbook is empty
[2016-10-07 16:07:59] AudibleScience : do liquidations still end up in the book now?
[2016-10-07 16:08:36] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: Yes, liquidations will occur and go to the orderbook first to be filled. We then attempt to aggress it and if not then an autodeleveraging event occurs
[2016-10-07 16:10:04] AudibleScience : nice
[2016-10-07 16:11:02] AudibleScience : I really like the new system at the moment!
[2016-10-07 16:12:03] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: isnt there insurance fund before "and if not then an autodeleveraging event occurs" ?
[2016-10-07 16:12:09] sleger : maybe you should ask an admin ?
[2016-10-07 16:12:40] BitMEX_Greg : thats why I said we aggress it
[2016-10-07 16:12:54] BitMEX_Greg : the insurance funds are used to aggress liquidations
[2016-10-07 16:13:01] sleger : okayyyyy
[2016-10-07 16:13:50] MrRGnome : Does the insurance fund come into the calculation for anticipated liquidations? Does it protect profitable positions from being force closed to meet liquidation volume?
[2016-10-07 16:14:54] BitMEX_Greg : We have a system that aims to avoid liquidations @MrRGnome
[2016-10-07 16:15:09] BitMEX_Greg : Take a read of: https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation#Minimisation-of-Liquidations
[2016-10-07 16:15:14] MrRGnome : That doesn't answer my question, i understand we are all doing everything to mitigate liquidations.
[2016-10-07 16:15:45] MrRGnome : I am asking specifically if the insurance fund is used before force closing profitable positions to meet liquidation volume.
[2016-10-07 16:16:38] BitMEX_Greg : Yes as indicated earlier, we aggress liquidated orders in an attempt to fill them in the market before we auto deleverage other positions
[2016-10-07 16:20:08] MrRGnome : Maybe I'm just having trouble understanding your wording. I understand you attempt to fill liquidations on the market. I understand when this fails you will close profitable positions to meet the liquidation volume necessary. And finally I understand that there is an insurance fund used to 'aggress' liquidations. In what order do these three mitigation strategies occur, and quite simply, will the insurance fund be exhausted before profitable positions are closed? I'm interested because then if I can see the status of the insurance fund that gives me some risk indicators.
[2016-10-07 16:20:55] MrRGnome : The same risk indicators I was using with DPE. Which would be convenient for me.
[2016-10-07 16:22:43] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: We have the same strategy that we had for preventing DPE as preventing ADL
[2016-10-07 16:22:53] MrRGnome : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund Seems to lead me to believe that the insurance fund is a shield for ADL. Is the insurance fund shared between all markets? If this is how it works then I'm not unhapppy at all.
[2016-10-07 16:22:58] BitMEX_Greg : You can view the insurance fund here:
[2016-10-07 16:23:00] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2016-10-07 16:23:47] Sqrl : What Greg is trying very hard to not say is this: The insurance fund is NOT shared between different markets.
[2016-10-07 16:23:56] MrRGnome : It's not?
[2016-10-07 16:24:10] Sqrl : No.
[2016-10-07 16:25:36] MrRGnome : So where can I get the insurance fund information for a given market? If it's shared that's great, this is all I need and I'm very happy with my risk management ability, I just need enough information to go on about how much of an insurance shield exists
[2016-10-07 16:27:42] Sqrl : I've asked that exact question previously. No answer was forthcoming.
[2016-10-07 16:28:04] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: It is not shared between markets. That is whatever contract contributes, then that is what will be used for that specific contract. The specific breakdown is in development
[2016-10-07 16:28:26] MrRGnome : Is there a way for me to know how much has thus far been contributed by each contract?
[2016-10-07 16:28:30] MrRGnome : Oh it's in dev. I see.
[2016-10-07 16:28:49] BitMEX_Greg : We publish an API data feed on liquidations
[2016-10-07 16:28:54] BitMEX_Greg : I believe that's the only way so far
[2016-10-07 16:29:07] MrRGnome : Oh, so i can aggregate this info myself? That's great
[2016-10-07 16:29:16] MrRGnome : What percent of liquidations goes tot he fund?
[2016-10-07 16:29:49] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: "The Insurance Fund grows from liquidations that were able to be executed in the market at a price better than the bankruptcy price of that particular position."
[2016-10-07 16:29:52] zanza : $3.50 per liquidation
[2016-10-07 16:30:17] MrRGnome : How can I know what given liquidations bankruptcy price was?
[2016-10-07 16:30:23] MrRGnome : Is that in the API for that?
[2016-10-07 16:30:35] Sqrl : Man, it's entertaining watching the tapdancing around the question.
[2016-10-07 16:31:05] BitMEX_Greg : Yes it publishes the liquidation price and size. Given liquidations occur when the maintenance margin is breached, you can work out the bankruptcy price
[2016-10-07 16:31:30] MrRGnome : I see, work out the bankruptcy price in revers
[2016-10-07 16:31:43] MrRGnome : Okay. A pain in the ass but totally doable
[2016-10-07 16:31:55] habibi : MrRGnome: it was discussed multiple times before, they won't publish all data about insurance fund, liquidations etc, theirs reason is to keep liquidation strategy secret so noone can use it to take profit
[2016-10-07 16:32:14] BitMEX_Greg : We are looking to build something that is more straight forward, but we have been focused on more important features right now
[2016-10-07 16:32:33] MrRGnome : It sounds like the information is available, it just needs to be derived fromt he liquidations. What greg is saying makes sense to me
[2016-10-07 16:32:42] MrRGnome : Thanks, maybe I'll put up a site or an interactive chat bot to get that info.
[2016-10-07 16:32:46] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-07/gold-pounded-someone-dumps-over-2-billion-under-minute
[2016-10-07 16:37:25] MrRGnome : Really the insurance fund needs to crach to 0btc though in order for the count to be accurate. It's only accurate from the moment you start observing the liquidations API. Unless there is a history of liquidations somewhere? maybe even the rekt bot chat...
[2016-10-07 16:38:44] WhaleDeluxe : If I have an ETHXBT position but haven't sold any, why do I have a realized PNL? from the funding?
[2016-10-07 16:39:27] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: I believe the REKT bot is the only data source for historical liquidations as we don't not have a source for that as of now
[2016-10-07 16:40:04] MrRGnome : Right. Thanks for your help.
[2016-10-07 16:40:33] MrRGnome : I guess I'm off to build a chat parser so I can get this dataset started
[2016-10-07 16:41:16] BitMEX_Greg : WhaleDeluxe: Yes the funding will apear in realised pnl alongside any trading fees (or rebates)
[2016-10-07 16:41:39] WhaleDeluxe : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2016-10-07 16:41:46] BitMEX_Greg : np
[2016-10-07 16:43:22] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Greg: Would you guys be cool with someone making a public site which tried to track some of this data you guys are ignoring?
[2016-10-07 16:44:04] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah you are free do anything you like with our public data
[2016-10-07 17:13:04] rapidtrades : WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RALLY
[2016-10-07 17:13:13] rapidtrades : srsly i changed teams for nothing?
[2016-10-07 17:20:54] Rizky : someone f'd with ZEC?
[2016-10-07 17:26:15] CaptainDean : you mean wind ? :P
[2016-10-07 17:27:26] rapidtrades : is noone trading old bitcoin anymore?
[2016-10-07 17:28:50] CaptainDean : I would short it if I had balls
[2016-10-07 17:30:02] mjones : xmr on the move again
[2016-10-07 17:44:10] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: soon™
[2016-10-07 17:47:55] BTCDJS : Btw REP investment paid off! 600% BTC return ?
[2016-10-07 17:52:11] BTCDJS : Got lucky tho
[2016-10-07 17:52:24] BTCDJS : No skill involved
[2016-10-07 17:53:49] BTCDJS : I like that after long periods we can just pick up conversations as if it was just yesterday that we spoke. Good talk
[2016-10-07 17:55:37] BTCDJS : Anyhoo...
[2016-10-07 17:57:41] rapidtrades : guess that's easy to do when you're talking to yourself...
[2016-10-07 17:59:20] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: you're in a good mood today ! ;-)
[2016-10-07 17:59:34] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: can you stop interrupting please. I'm trying to have a conversation with BTCDJS
[2016-10-07 17:59:54] BTCDJS : CaptainDean: he's always in a good mood
[2016-10-07 18:01:45] BTCDJS : I say he. Could be she
[2016-10-07 18:02:11] BTCDJS : She may be trading rapidly
[2016-10-07 18:07:24] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how's the new ADL feature working out? Any better?
[2016-10-07 18:09:28] CaptainDean : BTCDJS: I know, i'm just kidding
[2016-10-07 18:09:47] CaptainDean : BTCDJS: and it's a He
[2016-10-07 18:10:03] CaptainDean : BTCDJS: well i'm pretty sure
[2016-10-07 18:10:43] BTCDJS : It is possible that she is just a really cool chick who can banter like a bloke
[2016-10-07 18:11:11] wurstgelee : with a law degree!
[2016-10-07 18:11:39] BTCDJS : Yeah females also have law degrees
[2016-10-07 18:51:07] c0mrad : time to 50x long
[2016-10-07 18:51:13] c0mrad : btc
[2016-10-07 18:55:17] BTCDJS : 50x that shit
[2016-10-07 19:51:21] BTCDJS : Boooooooooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiinnnnnnngggggg
[2016-10-07 19:55:08] BitMEX_Greg : Should be more interesting next week after Golden Week is over
[2016-10-07 19:56:46] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: golden week?
[2016-10-07 19:57:09] migz : So. Stop limit doesn't work as well instead got liquidated on a test position. Weird shit.
[2016-10-07 19:59:53] XMRer : this place is full of manipulation. They don't have many traders so they have to make money to stay in business some type of way. So they will manipulate the actions to cause liquidations
[2016-10-07 20:00:19] BitMEX_Greg : BTCDJS: 7 day holiday in China
[2016-10-07 20:00:47] BitMEX_Greg : migz: Can you please describe the issue further?
[2016-10-07 20:00:55] BTCDJS : Ah. I did not know that.
[2016-10-07 20:01:20] BitMEX_Greg : XMRer: I can assure you nothing like that happens here
[2016-10-07 20:01:31] migz : BitMEX_Greg: Ticket submitted. Kindly explain. Thnx
[2016-10-07 20:02:12] migz : XMRer: Yea. Been here for 7months and was thinking the same.
[2016-10-07 20:06:27] XMRer : That's what they do... They act like they don't do this or that. But we know money will bring out the corruption in many
[2016-10-07 20:07:29] BitMEX_Greg : XMRer: You are talking as if you have hard proof of this? If so can you please elaborate as I have seen nothing of the sort during my time here at BitMEX
[2016-10-07 20:09:20] XMRer : All you got to do is pay attention...Things are questionable here.
[2016-10-07 20:09:40] BitMEX_Greg : XMRer: Like what for example?
[2016-10-07 20:10:42] BitMEX_Greg : migz: You said that was in testnet?
[2016-10-07 20:11:07] migz : No, never used testnet.
[2016-10-07 20:11:49] BitMEX_Greg : ok thanks
[2016-10-07 20:25:25] BTCDJS : No shenanigans here @XMRer stop smoking dope and learn how to trade like a man
[2016-10-07 20:26:28] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: tell him to sort his life out. You can't blame the casino for your gambling problem
[2016-10-07 20:27:31] BTCDJS : migz: if you trade on testnet you will never lose money
[2016-10-07 20:27:54] migz : i said i never trade on testnet. I trade here fo r test trade.
[2016-10-07 20:28:07] BitMEX_Greg : I think some of the problems lie with some other exchanges have had a bad reputation for manipulation in the past (like the woodchipper), and unfortunately people think its a standard
[2016-10-07 20:28:24] BitMEX_Greg : migz: Yeah my bad, I saw you said test trade so I assumed it was testnet. Just looking into it
[2016-10-07 20:35:39] BitMEX_Greg : migz: Sent you ar eply
[2016-10-07 20:35:42] BitMEX_Greg : reply*
[2016-10-07 20:43:31] MrRGnome : Most of the 'questionable' shit here is due to mismanaged expectations and low market volume. Not manipulation. that said odds are in the favor of the house, the house always wins because it has to stay in business. That's true anywhere you gamble.
[2016-10-07 20:55:37] micmix : @BitMEX_Sam small UI bug: option to switch single/dual orderbook is missing on XRP contract (advanced layout)
[2016-10-07 21:00:32] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: bet u know all about mismanaged expectations....
[2016-10-07 21:00:36] rapidtrades : and so do ur parents
[2016-10-07 21:02:20] MrRGnome : I'm always glad you can find the time to grace us with your scholarly acumen rapidtrades
[2016-10-07 21:02:39] habibi : rapidtrades: i was feeling sorry for u yday but it was mistake
[2016-10-07 21:02:57] rapidtrades : wtf...
[2016-10-07 21:03:04] rapidtrades : habibi: u owe me 1 btc jew
[2016-10-07 21:03:27] MrRGnome : You owe me 10, fraud.
[2016-10-07 21:03:31] habibi : ofc, just after u deliver contract terms
[2016-10-07 21:04:15] rapidtrades : i'm not delivering ur made up terms
[2016-10-07 21:04:19] rapidtrades : ur both idiots
[2016-10-07 21:04:59] MrRGnome : I love how much rapid backing out of that deal has been brought up in chat. Every time you open your mouth to say something inane it's going to be there waiting for you
[2016-10-07 21:05:24] MrRGnome : mocking comments about your law degree are to be the new norm
[2016-10-07 21:05:24] rapidtrades : hey asshole....every word in this chat is recorded
[2016-10-07 21:05:44] MrRGnome : Yeah it is, why don't you scroll back there are already a few examples from today
[2016-10-07 21:07:48] rapidtrades : not gonna waste my time with this again....bet is open to you, that jew over there or anyone else
[2016-10-07 21:07:51] rapidtrades : unde my terms
[2016-10-07 21:07:54] BitMEX_Greg : micmix: I think that may be intentional given the price (8dp)
[2016-10-07 21:09:52] MrRGnome : terms of you show that you have traded things and have a degree from somewhere in something? I think we should just accept since that's the most you are willing to bet on that it's closest to the truth - you having a law degree is just some nondescript degree and your idea of being a professional trader is sitting at home in your underwear eating a bowl of fruitloops.