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[2016-09-16 16:43:58] arbitrage001 : too bad i miss the withdraw window here
[2016-09-16 16:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 7 @ 0.015125
[2016-09-16 16:45:10] rapidtrades : they also lied about withholding 10% of tokens...they withheld over 15%
[2016-09-16 16:45:45] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yes. at this point, people should be careful about bfx
[2016-09-16 16:45:56] rapidtrades : well closer to 17%...but they paid out a bit to token holders
[2016-09-16 16:46:32] arbitrage001 : their mind is totally wrapped about getting anything their way without getting sued
[2016-09-16 16:46:45] arbitrage001 : best possible outcome for them
[2016-09-16 16:46:52] arbitrage001 : worst for customers
[2016-09-16 16:47:29] rapidtrades : so actual haircut should've been 30 cents not 36%
[2016-09-16 16:47:51] arbitrage001 : if you sell at 0.5
[2016-09-16 16:47:53] rapidtrades : and with their other investments, we may have been fully repaid in a liquidation
[2016-09-16 16:47:57] arbitrage001 : haircut should be less than 20%
[2016-09-16 16:49:05] rapidtrades : yeah but that's forcing u to speculate on the tokens....smone else pays for ur haircut
[2016-09-16 16:49:11] rapidtrades : its zero-sum
[2016-09-16 16:49:24] arbitrage001 : right
[2016-09-16 16:49:41] arbitrage001 : you need be able to read market mood
[2016-09-16 16:49:42] rapidtrades : they say they're not buying...so actual haircut to customers overall is 36%
[2016-09-16 16:49:47] arbitrage001 : speculate what other think
[2016-09-16 16:49:52] arbitrage001 : to be a good trader
[2016-09-16 16:50:18] arbitrage001 : fundamental analysis is useless when it comes to trading
[2016-09-16 16:51:23] rapidtrades : well if they raise a good amount i will be suing and my claim is relatively small
[2016-09-16 16:51:42] rapidtrades : i assume much bigger fish will definitely sue as well
[2016-09-16 16:53:05] arbitrage001 : unless the equity program fails badly
[2016-09-16 16:53:10] arbitrage001 : dont see that happening
[2016-09-16 17:36:28] BitMEX_Greg : I am sure they are doing everything that is in their power to avoid litigation
[2016-09-16 17:36:42] BitMEX_Greg : Which could include side deals with the bigger whales that noone else knows about
[2016-09-16 17:36:56] BitMEX_Greg : Just to make those traders happy / whole
[2016-09-16 17:43:15] Tetsuo : Well, maybe monero isn´t the future of crypto? I thought this time it´s different! : - (
[2016-09-16 17:50:05] BitMEX_Greg : There seems to be always something new and improved in Crypto
[2016-09-16 17:50:15] BitMEX_Greg : Like the new iPhone
[2016-09-16 17:51:11] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-09-16 18:17:58] mjones : xmr maybe bottom http://i.imgur.com/bLb3bL6.png
[2016-09-16 18:19:48] mjones : otherwise a sharp drop
[2016-09-16 18:21:32] mjones : i hate how there are 14.000 transactions waiting to be confirmed and the latest block has 1284 transactions in it.
[2016-09-16 18:21:51] mjones : the one before it had 2601 transactions in it. c'mon man
[2016-09-16 18:24:57] CaptainDean : check which pool solved the block
[2016-09-16 18:25:07] CaptainDean : Antpool for exemple doesn't give a shit about fulling their block
[2016-09-16 18:25:40] CaptainDean : shitty code, lazy ass, self concerned
[2016-09-16 18:26:17] CaptainDean : Kano full his block all the time even it's for 0.1 fees (in a back to back block for exemple)
[2016-09-16 18:26:59] CaptainDean : I just checked, the last 14 block where pretty muich full
[2016-09-16 18:27:06] CaptainDean : https://blockchain.info/blocks
[2016-09-16 18:28:34] CaptainDean : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/430103 looks like to be an exception, i have to ask Kano abuot this one, i'm really really surprise it's not full
[2016-09-16 18:28:55] RAENIR : Hey @BitMEX_Greg , can i confirm that if i'm trading on x1 leverage, i cannot be liquidated?
[2016-09-16 18:30:17] BitMEX_Greg : RAENIR: Given the Maintenance Margin of 25%, right now you can be liquidated if you are 1x leverage. We are working to solve this so that you can't be. In the meantime you can add extra margin to your 1x position or switch to a Cross Margin style
[2016-09-16 18:30:53] RAENIR : Thanks Greg
[2016-09-16 18:31:01] rapidtrades : is zcash the new future of crypto? i think so!
[2016-09-16 18:31:23] lockhedge : rapidtrades: wait for zcash classic
[2016-09-16 18:31:26] Tetsuo : hell yeah, 0.07 was a bargain!
[2016-09-16 18:37:14] mjones : XMR swimming to new lows
[2016-09-16 18:37:53] rapidtrades : wait a min....did swap dip to 593 this morning
[2016-09-16 18:38:18] rapidtrades : ok 597
[2016-09-16 18:39:40] mjones : back to back antpool cockblocks.
[2016-09-16 18:39:51] Tetsuo : it was a bot gone mad @rapid
[2016-09-16 18:47:57] mjones : anyone trade the bitcoin/yen on 100x?
[2016-09-16 18:48:23] mjones : does that mostly follow the btc/usd and btc/cny price?
[2016-09-16 18:49:44] BitMEX_Greg : It tracks the spot JPY price from Quoine
[2016-09-16 18:50:29] mjones : all right looks like this chart then https://cryptowat.ch/quoine/btcjpy/5m
[2016-09-16 18:50:45] mjones : speaking of cryptowatch were you gonna get your charts back on that site or not?
[2016-09-16 18:51:05] BitMEX_Sam : mjones: Yes, we've been talking to them.
[2016-09-16 18:51:17] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: still 500$ per month for that service?
[2016-09-16 18:51:24] mjones : yay finally my btc confirmed
[2016-09-16 18:51:27] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: We don't pay them for it.
[2016-09-16 18:51:40] mjones : thank you kano and your 1065 transactions in that block
[2016-09-16 18:52:53] CaptainDean : Yeah fat fees block 13.33355646
[2016-09-16 18:58:09] mjones : waiting for xmr double bottom at 0.0144 and liftoff if my lines tell the truth
[2016-09-16 18:59:13] CaptainDean : well there is a pump wall @ 147 @ poliniex
[2016-09-16 18:59:17] CaptainDean : poloniex
[2016-09-16 18:59:21] mjones : watching someone sell into it
[2016-09-16 19:00:08] mjones : wanna catch the bottom which is hopefully today and hold a week through massive gains
[2016-09-16 19:00:23] CaptainDean : we hit already hit 144
[2016-09-16 19:00:33] CaptainDean : like 25 mins ago
[2016-09-16 19:02:25] mjones : yup. now we go up, down for a double bottom and then all of a sudden thousands of BTC used to market buy the price up
[2016-09-16 19:04:56] mjones : http://i.imgur.com/WW4IqT6.png
[2016-09-16 19:05:16] mjones : like that i'm hoping for. now pump
[2016-09-16 19:41:35] CaptainDean : double bottom @ 144
[2016-09-16 19:41:42] CaptainDean : it might be it :P
[2016-09-16 19:42:09] mjones : if not then 0.013 then 0.012 then 0.011 and 0.010
[2016-09-16 19:42:20] mjones : one of those will hold and we'll all long the bottom and profit
[2016-09-16 19:42:22] Tetsuo : real bottom will be in when there is a huge downards spike,
[2016-09-16 19:42:47] mjones : yeah probably a massive long squeeze and once the margin calls are over it'll bounce
[2016-09-16 19:46:52] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: tokens?
[2016-09-16 19:49:07] rapidtrades : yday you alls were yapping about tokens now noone has opinino
[2016-09-16 19:49:19] Tetsuo : XMR, i feel vomit in my mouth when i only think about BFX, i have never looked at the charts nor would i ever trade em
[2016-09-16 19:49:33] rapidtrades : k
[2016-09-16 19:51:49] Tetsuo : i hope all of BFX emplyoeers die by assrape in a russian gulag
[2016-09-16 19:53:29] rapidtrades : i have to say it's getting annoying how smug are they about this whole thing
[2016-09-16 19:53:45] rapidtrades : acting like they're above the law
[2016-09-16 19:56:35] Tetsuo : Pride goes before a fall
[2016-09-16 19:57:25] Tetsuo : if no one of their stupi customers sues em i beieve a competitor will, like okkcoin
[2016-09-16 19:57:48] Tetsuo : they sure had an account over there
[2016-09-16 20:36:32] mjones : someone wants ETC
[2016-09-16 20:38:25] mjones : i think eth and etc time
[2016-09-16 20:46:14] Tetsuo : No one, not a single person wants ETC, beside some nefarious shitcoin pumpers. If ETH has a future ETC will fail. If ETH has no future ETC will fail even harder. This godless shitcoin might have one last bull trap comin for it, but aftet that it´s game over , no matter what. I would rather invest 100k into DOGE before touchin ETC.
[2016-09-16 20:49:05] sleger : barry silbert does
[2016-09-16 20:50:28] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-09-16 20:52:57] mjones : yeah those etc holders are something. slow bleed for sure once they give up hope
[2016-09-16 20:54:47] Tetsuo : "Barry Silbert ‏@barrysilbert 5 h ago Ethereum Classic now has a community manager. " I´m so excited....
[2016-09-16 20:56:16] Tetsuo : I hope he dies by overdose
[2016-09-16 21:02:24] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-09-16 21:13:14] rapidtrades : I'm sleger I have a sharpe of 10+
[2016-09-16 21:13:15] rapidtrades : PLUS
[2016-09-16 21:55:20] cryptillian : Tetsuo: so i cant shill you in to etc?
[2016-09-16 22:01:12] cryptillian : china likes it and keeping pow makes miners happy. there will be some moonishness
[2016-09-16 22:01:25] cryptillian : agrees on shitcoinness
[2016-09-16 22:06:24] rapidtrades : 57.5....can u believe this shit
[2016-09-16 22:08:16] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: in crypto bubble land, anything can happen
[2016-09-16 22:10:53] cryptillian : any of you seen the auroracoin thing?
[2016-09-16 22:11:19] cryptillian : first "airdrop"
[2016-09-16 22:11:28] arbitrage001 : that was 2 years ago
[2016-09-16 22:11:29] arbitrage001 : isnt it
[2016-09-16 22:11:36] cryptillian : 50$ a coin
[2016-09-16 22:11:39] cryptillian : yeah
[2016-09-16 22:12:08] cryptillian : totally missed it
[2016-09-16 22:12:12] cryptillian : lol
[2016-09-16 22:12:25] arbitrage001 : hit 1B market cap momentary i think
[2016-09-16 22:12:29] cryptillian : but crazy shit happens
[2016-09-16 22:12:58] cryptillian : lisk iou at yolobit
[2016-09-16 22:13:50] cryptillian : but the lack of orders on this zcash thing worries me
[2016-09-16 22:14:23] cryptillian : cant exit
[2016-09-16 22:14:55] rapidtrades : just think of ur exit as 0
[2016-09-16 22:15:52] cryptillian : lol... might be better of keeping until launch.. no supply high demand then
[2016-09-16 22:27:16] cryptillian : is this kaiko from the bitmex people?
[2016-09-16 22:55:50] BitMEX_Greg : cryptillian: Kaiko is an independent index provider, not associated with BitMEX at all.
[2016-09-16 23:26:38] cryptillian : thanks.
[2016-09-17 00:11:47] mjones : xmr going slowly down 13 days. wonder if this will tank and margin call a bunch of polo bulls.
[2016-09-17 00:16:20] herpinator : does anyone here have any experience with 1broker?
[2016-09-17 00:16:30] cryptillian : wish i caught the xmr pump
[2016-09-17 00:16:37] cryptillian : yes i do
[2016-09-17 00:18:30] cryptillian : havent used them since march i think. got into mt4 and forex
[2016-09-17 00:19:25] cryptillian : and had a couple of times when i couldnt go long/short due to to many fomo
[2016-09-17 00:19:51] cryptillian : but overal i think teire legit
[2016-09-17 00:21:03] rapidtrades : preventing u from entering positions is a major red flag
[2016-09-17 00:25:40] rapidtrades : if it happens on forex that's a deal breaker for me
[2016-09-17 00:27:42] cryptillian : i dont know if it does on fx but i had at least 3 times it did on btc
[2016-09-17 00:29:00] cryptillian : and the charts sucked bigtime
[2016-09-17 00:29:46] rapidtrades : yeah btc is liquid enough, it shouldn't do that
[2016-09-17 00:30:21] cryptillian : but pretty anon and i never saw weird shenanigans
[2016-09-17 00:30:40] rapidtrades : Cable and Euro got killed on Friday...that mutually destructive separation going according to plan
[2016-09-17 00:32:42] cryptillian : yeah im waiting for the vix to make a big move and then get the bottom and turn of my computer and let it fly for a week
[2016-09-17 00:34:23] cryptillian : i really got the aud/us wrong last week
[2016-09-17 00:34:45] cryptillian : looked like a good breakout but nooo
[2016-09-17 00:35:57] cryptillian : had some big losers lately so i might set the stops too tight
[2016-09-17 00:36:13] cryptillian : but you got to get back in
[2016-09-17 00:37:14] cryptillian : oil can be intersting this month.
[2016-09-17 00:39:15] rapidtrades : yeah forex has been shit this year
[2016-09-17 00:40:01] rapidtrades : only clean moves were in yen and cable
[2016-09-17 00:40:18] rapidtrades : and the yen moves were way too volatile for most strats
[2016-09-17 00:40:53] rapidtrades : cable move was brexit...so few hours of fun
[2016-09-17 00:44:39] cryptillian : gimongus fuckery though!
[2016-09-17 00:44:54] cryptillian : lolwhut?
[2016-09-17 00:45:05] cryptillian : censored
[2016-09-17 00:45:35] cryptillian : but it was really really tricky and not in a nice way
[2016-09-17 00:46:11] rapidtrades : what brexit day?
[2016-09-17 00:46:41] cryptillian : and when it moves that whipsaw almost impossible to time it
[2016-09-17 00:47:26] rapidtrades : it was tricky yeah....i got into a short, got stopped by 1p and then it crashed 600 pips
[2016-09-17 00:47:55] rapidtrades : it moved 200 pips up and down per minute for hours
[2016-09-17 00:48:00] rapidtrades : never seen anything like it
[2016-09-17 00:48:38] cryptillian : 22 23 june
[2016-09-17 00:49:01] rapidtrades : yeah the night of the 23rd
[2016-09-17 00:49:37] cryptillian : this is another reason i like the meta trader platform
[2016-09-17 00:50:11] rapidtrades : mt4 has the best charts
[2016-09-17 00:52:39] cryptillian : and even on my shitty laptop from the ancient it doesnt sound like a jet engine. instead of many browser platformbased trading sites
[2016-09-17 00:53:56] rapidtrades : exactly...once u try mt4 u will never see browser based charts in the same way
[2016-09-17 00:54:33] cryptillian : did uninstal it from my phone. is caused me to overtrade and do stupid yolobets
[2016-09-17 00:55:56] cryptillian : yes ! but it is pretty steep to learn
[2016-09-17 00:55:58] rapidtrades : yeah...i can see that
[2016-09-17 00:56:20] rapidtrades : even on mobile it has the fastest charts
[2016-09-17 00:57:09] cryptillian : yeah took a position drove to work got rekt/and a ticket for using a cellphone while driving so..
[2016-09-17 00:57:32] cryptillian : it uses suprisingly little data
[2016-09-17 00:58:05] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-09-17 01:09:40] cryptillian : this sthis is some weird btce/okcoin/markets.com mix? (slider leverage) i feel old and stupid doing this
[2016-09-17 01:10:09] cryptillian : nice one censor :)!!
[2016-09-17 01:10:48] herpinator : ah thanks for retelling your experiences I only just read the chat
[2016-09-17 01:11:22] cryptillian : never had a problem deposit/withdr
[2016-09-17 01:14:32] cryptillian : whaleclub sucks harder
[2016-09-17 01:15:01] herpinator : whaleclub is not good
[2016-09-17 01:26:18] mjones : is btc dumping
[2016-09-17 01:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 176 @ 62237.0
[2016-09-17 01:27:31] mjones : dang ^^ that was me
[2016-09-17 01:27:32] mjones : rekt
[2016-09-17 01:28:03] mjones : 100x was not kind to me so far
[2016-09-17 01:44:17] cryptillian : auch!
[2016-09-17 01:47:29] cryptillian : herpinator: i was long during that +100$ weekend and got screwed i m o. they have very weird spread/cost/thing
[2016-09-17 01:47:57] cryptillian : really really weird
[2016-09-17 01:48:39] cryptillian : back in may.. when pepe wasnt racist
[2016-09-17 01:51:03] cryptillian : d.icks werent ou for harmbe... good times
[2016-09-17 01:52:19] mjones : i like the tits out of harmbe
[2016-09-17 01:52:26] mjones : for*
[2016-09-17 01:52:36] cryptillian : brain/claw no good . drink bryced brain
[2016-09-17 01:52:49] cryptillian : that is a noble cause
[2016-09-17 01:53:06] mjones : there goes xmr. i knew the millionaires wanted to buy more
[2016-09-17 06:29:32] zanza : XMR on sale guys
[2016-09-17 06:29:33] zanza : cheap XMR
[2016-09-17 07:04:13] Tetsuo : no one´s gonna buy your bag ! : - )
[2016-09-17 08:00:12] laisee : cheap today, cheaper tomorrow
[2016-09-17 09:25:15] zanza : :)
[2016-09-17 10:28:28] Susperia : Why my locked profit is decreased since yesterday?
[2016-09-17 10:30:18] Susperia : It must be 0.102 (excl. fees). Now I see that 0.005 only withheld
[2016-09-17 10:30:25] Susperia : *0.05
[2016-09-17 10:46:24] Susperia : Ah looks like I got it
[2016-09-17 11:34:00] cryptobull : ETH breakout confirmed, next leg up to 0.022 imo
[2016-09-17 11:55:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 233 @ 0.02098
[2016-09-17 12:03:59] Samirum : cryptobull: confirmed?
[2016-09-17 12:04:30] cryptobull : Samirum: yepp, by crystal ball
[2016-09-17 12:04:42] cryptobull : Samirum: soon by chart
[2016-09-17 15:29:02] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-09-17 15:29:07] rapidtrades : we seem to be goign down
[2016-09-17 15:30:10] BagHolder : yen dump confimed
[2016-09-17 15:38:47] rapidtrades : https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/bitfinex
[2016-09-17 15:38:56] rapidtrades : still no backers and it says 'not open'
[2016-09-17 15:39:15] rapidtrades : why would u start tthis and not have it backing open
[2016-09-17 15:46:00] Kalman : questions over questions ...
[2016-09-17 15:49:34] rapidtrades : and the timeframe is too small..only 13 days if u want to convert in full then it goes at 1/2 then 1/4
[2016-09-17 15:49:56] rapidtrades : what a weird setup...doesn't that basically guarantee a crash in token value?
[2016-09-17 15:50:41] rapidtrades : guess it depends on how many redeem their tokens for 'stock'
[2016-09-17 16:03:30] xzsd : Zcash pricing by POLONIEX? inst there
[2016-09-17 16:06:34] Kalman : rapidtrades: its a short time for proper due dilligence; anyway with the given info not much time needed ...; the 1/2 & 1/4 refer to the funny 'recovering rights', doesn't it?! What value do you give it ?! Ofc if you see the whole thing as staged than it would make sense to 'recover' the stolen property.
[2016-09-17 16:13:50] rapidtrades : the 1/2 and 1/4 are how much shares u get past a certian time...right now its 1 token 1 'share'
[2016-09-17 16:21:10] xzsd : If anyone says that they will pay you Zcash before October 28, 2016, then there must be some mistake, because Zcash will not exist until then.
[2016-09-17 16:29:49] Tetsuo : I already gpt mine, if anyone wants to buy em , i´m sellin em @ 20$ for 1 ZEC, real bargain. Paypal only, feel free to contact me
[2016-09-17 16:30:15] Tetsuo : last chance before they go to 300$
[2016-09-17 16:30:33] Tetsuo : my 3 daughters have cancer so i need the money quick for therapy
[2016-09-17 16:42:29] Sqrl : Tetsuo is lying. No ZEC exist yet.
[2016-09-17 16:49:52] sleger : No he isn't, I have some as well but not selling them !!
[2016-09-17 16:51:05] Sqrl : No ZEC exist yet. It doesn't launch 'til Oct 28th.
[2016-09-17 16:51:30] sleger : That's for the main public, but some people already have some
[2016-09-17 16:52:57] Sqrl : There is no premine. None exist yet.
[2016-09-17 16:57:36] sleger : somewhere there's a village missing an idiot
[2016-09-17 16:59:11] Sqrl : And you're hoping to con him, is that it?
[2016-09-17 16:59:41] justinlooking : testsuo give u 22mln btc for ur zec,
[2016-09-17 17:31:10] Kalman : rapidtrades: it speaks of RRT per BFX token rendered ...
[2016-09-17 17:53:27] habibi : sleger: nice, only testnet out and u already have coins :)
[2016-09-17 18:08:34] rapidtrades : what is sleger trying to pull...
[2016-09-17 18:12:12] sleger : nothing, Tetsuo was just playing and Sqrl didnt get it
[2016-09-17 18:15:01] Rado : so one ZEC is worth 0.07 XBT here?
[2016-09-17 18:15:44] Rado : Any idea what private investors paid for it?
[2016-09-17 18:20:01] rapidtrades : ask sleger
[2016-09-17 18:26:13] sleger : 50 cents
[2016-09-17 18:30:39] laisee : cost of forking zcash code?
[2016-09-17 18:38:13] Rado : so 1 ZEC at 0.07 XBT is hugely overvalued
[2016-09-17 18:38:41] lockhedge : Rado: they had a $1m seed round https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/zcash#/entity so investors paid at least $0.47, more likely $1
[2016-09-17 18:43:40] rapidtrades : this is ridiculous
[2016-09-17 18:43:54] rapidtrades : investors pay 50 cents and the rest of the public gets shafted
[2016-09-17 18:44:07] rapidtrades : its like shitter all over again
[2016-09-17 18:44:19] rapidtrades : i'm sorry shether
[2016-09-17 18:53:11] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: no one forcing anyone to buy or sell
[2016-09-17 18:53:25] arbitrage001 : you can create a competing coin and do the same
[2016-09-17 18:58:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.015855
[2016-09-17 18:58:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 103 @ 0.015822
[2016-09-17 18:58:09] mjones : there goes xmr
[2016-09-17 18:59:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1765 @ 0.016035
[2016-09-17 20:25:17] CaptainDean : Rado: ZEC price is completely retarded, no coin even exist yet
[2016-09-17 20:25:56] Rado : CaptainDean: yep, not touching it
[2016-09-17 20:32:53] hedgehog0223 : hi everybody
[2016-09-17 20:33:17] hedgehog0223 : ther is a moving averge indicatoron my chart
[2016-09-17 20:33:37] hedgehog0223 : does anyone know how to make is disappearÜ
[2016-09-17 20:34:22] hedgehog0223 : sry for the typing mistakes
[2016-09-17 20:41:22] justinlooking : on desktop or mob?
[2016-09-17 20:51:13] coinrun : My deposit isnt howing up
[2016-09-17 20:51:38] coinrun : Its a confirmed transaction to the correct wallet
[2016-09-17 21:04:56] BitMEX_Sam : coinrun: It confirmed about 12 minutes ago, right after you sent that message.
[2016-09-17 21:05:13] lord : CaptainDean: true, but if it's released, there will be not a single coin. after 1 day there will be 7200 coins. Guess how many people want to buy in ;-)
[2016-09-17 21:16:56] mjones : there will be so many people adding miners that the blocks will be found faster
[2016-09-17 21:30:04] BitMEX_Sam : mjones: If that happens, difficulty will adjust, just like Bitcoin
[2016-09-17 21:30:21] BitMEX_Sam : Because it's very difficult to anticipate how much mining will come online in the first weeks and months, they implemented a mining slow start
[2016-09-17 21:32:27] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: agree but there are already some shenanigans on testnet, like huge diff spike anomaly
[2016-09-17 21:32:51] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Well, a lot of mining hardware is coming on and off
[2016-09-17 21:33:11] BitMEX_Sam : I'm not aware of the specifics in Zcash, but on the Bitcoin Testnet there are shenanigans all the time
[2016-09-17 21:33:19] BitMEX_Sam : There's not enough baseline hashpower to suss them out.
[2016-09-17 21:41:27] mjones : yeah it'll adjust but at the beginning there will be more than 7200 zcash a day
[2016-09-17 21:43:25] mjones : well maybe there is more to it than i know
[2016-09-17 22:31:29] omicron : what is the cheapest bitmex contract if i want to hold btc long term
[2016-09-17 22:31:40] omicron : i.e. where i wont get too raped by funding etc
[2016-09-17 22:33:39] omicron : also is there no funding for zec?
[2016-09-17 22:34:06] omicron : so can i just short zec?
[2016-09-17 22:34:15] omicron : equivalent to going long btc?
[2016-09-17 22:40:54] Boontjie : omicron: short xmr
[2016-09-17 22:42:57] omicron : anybody tried coinpit.io yet? they have a slick interface
[2016-09-17 23:57:31] skooliice : zec has dried up...
[2016-09-18 00:11:04] omicron : hard to trade something which does not have a spot market
[2016-09-18 00:14:40] omicron : i mean zec does not exist yet
[2016-09-18 00:14:53] omicron : who the f___ would trade it?
[2016-09-18 01:18:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 150 @ 0.005741
[2016-09-18 02:17:09] laisee : omicron: ever heard of grey markets?
[2016-09-18 02:27:07] omicron : laisee: its like an black market but not officially illegal, right?
[2016-09-18 02:28:08] laisee : no, it's for trading of pre-ipo shares
[2016-09-18 02:28:31] omicron : oh i see. so ZEC is grey market?
[2016-09-18 02:28:47] omicron : i saw that movie "50 shitcoins of grey"
[2016-09-18 02:31:34] laisee : omicron: something like a grey market, but 100% unregulated
[2016-09-18 02:31:51] laisee : omicron: u don't like cryptocurrencies?
[2016-09-18 02:39:09] dasdfasdf : bitmex needs coinpit like instant deposits
[2016-09-18 02:40:36] omicron : laisee: i love cryptos.
[2016-09-18 02:41:19] omicron : dasdfasdf: what do you mean instant? coinpit also asks for 1 conf just like bitmex
[2016-09-18 02:41:36] omicron : (and everyone else)
[2016-09-18 02:41:38] dasdfasdf : to get in shared lockbox.
[2016-09-18 02:42:25] omicron : you can see it under "unconfirmed" you cannot trade it until it moves to "confirmed"
[2016-09-18 02:43:01] omicron : did they change it?
[2016-09-18 02:43:28] omicron : but yea, its very slick, you see the deposit instantly
[2016-09-18 02:43:37] dasdfasdf : lockbox is multisig
[2016-09-18 02:43:43] dasdfasdf : that takes 1 confirm
[2016-09-18 02:43:49] dasdfasdf : but you know they can't steal your funds
[2016-09-18 02:43:54] dasdfasdf : so like your wallet
[2016-09-18 02:43:59] omicron : right yes
[2016-09-18 02:44:08] dasdfasdf : with those funds you can trad einstantly
[2016-09-18 02:44:48] omicron : the whole site is done very nicely for sure. everything is responsive and realtime including btc on blockchain balance, trade balance, affiliate rebates
[2016-09-18 02:45:45] omicron : and i noticed when you change theme from light to dark, its instant. does not load the whole site again unlike many other sites
[2016-09-18 02:45:56] omicron : very professional high quality work
[2016-09-18 02:49:07] dasdfasdf : I like what they are trying to accomplish. UI needs lots of work. Whole idea may even be pointless with the wallet code being sent from their servers anyhow. Hard to make sure they don't really have copy of key.
[2016-09-18 02:49:32] dasdfasdf : need to have a hardware wallet, or external wallet doing the move from multisig to margin
[2016-09-18 02:50:02] omicron : heard they gonna support hardware wallets on one of the telegram chats.
[2016-09-18 02:51:29] omicron : their code is open source on github. i dont understand lots of it but they have opensourced more stuff than any other exchange that i know of
[2016-09-18 02:52:29] omicron : https://github.com/coinpit
[2016-09-18 02:57:29] omicron : IIRC on one of the telegram chats they said they plan to open source more as time passes eventually opensourcing almost everything
[2016-09-18 03:03:14] omicron : deribit is another exchange thats interesting. they have options and futures
[2016-09-18 03:04:54] omicron : now i personally dont trade options but sounds like a great niche
[2016-09-18 04:50:07] omicron : 421 users and nobody talking? its the opposite of polo trollbox here
[2016-09-18 05:19:04] omicron : yea, i know btc is chopping. i guess everyone is too busy browsing the web
[2016-09-18 05:38:38] vkvk : imho it's good to have a calm trollbox - not like on polo where 80% of people are just randomly spamming trash like "XYZ up/down/pump/dump/moon in 2h/1d/1w/1y"
[2016-09-18 05:45:03] omicron : oh ya, polo needs a trollbox per coin
[2016-09-18 06:32:29] omicron : also i guess its sleep time for europe
[2016-09-18 06:32:36] omicron : and no usa traders here
[2016-09-18 07:33:14] justinlooking : bitmex: <3 login slider +1111
[2016-09-18 07:34:53] Shana358 : Hello friends how are you?
[2016-09-18 07:35:03] Shana358 : i am new on this site and i am from pakistan
[2016-09-18 07:43:27] BitMEX_Wally : Shana358: Welcome to BitMEX
[2016-09-18 07:43:48] Shana358 : Thanks dear...
[2016-09-18 07:44:10] Shana358 : I am new and so please guide me little bit
[2016-09-18 07:45:07] BitMEX_Wally : Shana358: We have an overview guide here, please let me know if you have any questions: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-09-18 07:45:50] Shana358 : Thanks dear if you have any youtube video about bitmex learning then send me.
[2016-09-18 07:46:44] BitMEX_Wally : There is a getting started video her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh2bM3UP04
[2016-09-18 07:50:16] omicron : Shana358: are there a lot of crypto traders in pakistan?
[2016-09-18 07:50:50] omicron : India could be the next big market. Im guessing pakistan is similar
[2016-09-18 07:52:54] Shana358 : yes dear here are many traders.
[2016-09-18 07:53:03] Shana358 : we are trading on our own currency
[2016-09-18 07:53:13] Shana358 : but i trade on different currencies
[2016-09-18 08:04:41] justinlooking : eth rekt?
[2016-09-18 08:06:28] jordanbitfort : nice 666 buy on eth
[2016-09-18 08:07:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.015337
[2016-09-18 08:11:03] omicron : can someone tell me how okcoin has 500x volume of bitmex
[2016-09-18 08:11:32] omicron : do they combine spot volume under futures?
[2016-09-18 08:26:43] BitMEX_Wally : omicron: Yes it is their spot market (with 0% fees) that has unbelievably high volume
[2016-09-18 08:32:11] omicron : "unbelievably" is quite the right word
[2016-09-18 08:32:58] omicron : so they convert futures into spot?
[2016-09-18 08:33:12] omicron : doesnt make sense since they have expiry like traditional futures
[2016-09-18 08:34:06] omicron : Also how do they make any money from 0% fee? do they charge for futures?
[2016-09-18 08:41:09] omicron : okc pumping. why is bitmex not reacting
[2016-09-18 08:42:04] omicron : come on guys buy buy buy
[2016-09-18 08:42:07] Kalman : omicron: sleger doesn't arb anymor
[2016-09-18 08:42:31] Kalman : or only with 10% ;)
[2016-09-18 08:42:43] omicron : ya, sleger was a whale, huh?
[2016-09-18 08:43:12] Kalman : maybe he is in church now, its Sunday
[2016-09-18 08:43:52] omicron : ya i heard he got rekt when bitmex changed the contract with short notice
[2016-09-18 08:44:04] omicron : maybe he just does not have money anymore
[2016-09-18 08:59:54] BitMEX_Wally : omicron: The 24 hour volume for OKC Bitcoin/USD futures is currently 1,701 Bitcoin
[2016-09-18 09:00:06] BitMEX_Wally : Whereas it is 595 Bitcoin on BitMEX
[2016-09-18 09:01:36] BitMEX_Wally : https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?BTC_USD
[2016-09-18 09:02:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 204 @ 0.005532
[2016-09-18 09:04:22] omicron : BitMEX_Wally: thanks. they confused me, but you cleared it up
[2016-09-18 09:05:50] omicron : on their trading app it says things like 100K BTC
[2016-09-18 09:05:58] omicron : quite hard to believe
[2016-09-18 09:10:02] BitMEX_Wally : http://www.bitcoinfuturesguide.com/bitcoin-blog/arthur-hayes-of-bitmex-chinese-exchanges-are-operating-as-shadow-banks
[2016-09-18 09:11:07] donchard : do you mean they have fake volumes
[2016-09-18 09:11:15] omicron : and how come 90% of the volume is mid-spread
[2016-09-18 09:12:19] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah all the Chinese exchanges fake volume
[2016-09-18 09:12:31] BitMEX_Wally : More interest is how they make money on 0% fees...
[2016-09-18 09:13:21] kurkudu : BitMEX_Wally: is bitmex 24H volume calculaded with the leverage?
[2016-09-18 09:13:38] kurkudu : BTW BTCC has a real CNY volumes
[2016-09-18 09:13:45] omicron : so i see. Arthur thinks that they are investing in high risk products. great so they will collapse when they make a mistake and bitmex will be there
[2016-09-18 09:13:53] omicron : to take over with chinese i18n
[2016-09-18 09:14:06] BitMEX_Wally : We report the notional value of all trades, the amount of leverage the buyer or seller might be using is irrelevant
[2016-09-18 09:14:53] BitMEX_Wally : kurkudu: Yes, of all the Chinese exchanges BTCC is the one I trust
[2016-09-18 09:15:21] habibi : most of people there play on leverage, daily interest is nice payout for them even without fees
[2016-09-18 09:15:31] habibi : trade fees*
[2016-09-18 09:16:11] kurkudu : also chinese exchanges charge almost 1% for CNY withdraw
[2016-09-18 09:17:07] omicron : so 0% chinese sites are gonna implode ... jus t a matter of time
[2016-09-18 09:17:47] omicron : i see. the i18n strategy is making a lot of sense now
[2016-09-18 09:19:48] kurkudu : I like to trade on CNY spot, in fact there is a highest liquidity, however their fake trdaes never match with the real ones
[2016-09-18 09:26:29] kurkudu : and unfortuanately bitmex volumese are almost zero, so 595 BTC/50xleverage = 10 BTC in 24 hours
[2016-09-18 09:31:17] BitMEX_Wally : kurkudu: It's 595 Bitcoin, the amount of leverage is irrelevant
[2016-09-18 09:31:28] BitMEX_Wally : And you don't know if the counterparties were using 50x or 1x
[2016-09-18 09:40:02] kurkudu : BitMEX_Wally: i made a rough estimation, but no matter what is the leverage, your volumes are incredibely low
[2016-09-18 09:41:59] BitMEX_Wally : XBTUSD is only 40% of our volume at the moment, people are trading ETH and XMR etc
[2016-09-18 09:43:32] BitMEX_Wally : We're the second largest XMR exchange after Poloniex
[2016-09-18 09:48:44] kurkudu : Who cares about all these shitcoins from polo? please undesrtand me right, i like you platform, your implementaion is great, but no volumes to trade.
[2016-09-18 09:49:24] Susperia : XMR is not a shitcoin you fucking moron
[2016-09-18 09:49:25] kurkudu : i would be glad to see gold/BTC pair instead of shitcoins from polo
[2016-09-18 09:49:42] zanza : lol
[2016-09-18 09:50:13] kurkudu : or oil/btc
[2016-09-18 09:50:29] Susperia : I am in to remove LTC, LISK, Zcash scam.
[2016-09-18 09:50:41] Susperia : ah and also Fucktom
[2016-09-18 09:50:51] Susperia : FCT I meant
[2016-09-18 09:58:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 3 @ 0.08387 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-18 09:58:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECZ16`: Buy 1 @ 0.08247 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-18 10:04:42] mmarwaha : hi guys. how do i place a simple limit sell order with stop loss price above my entry
[2016-09-18 10:19:34] BitMEX_Wally : mmarwaha: That sounds like 2 different orders.
[2016-09-18 10:19:42] BitMEX_Wally : You can place a Limit order to sell at your target exit price
[2016-09-18 10:19:54] BitMEX_Wally : And then place a Stop Market order to sell at your stop loss price
[2016-09-18 10:20:24] mmarwaha : you mean stop market buy order @BitMEX_Wally right?
[2016-09-18 10:20:32] BitMEX_Wally : Are you long or short?
[2016-09-18 10:21:08] mmarwaha : i want to place a short order above current market price and then a stop loss to that above my short order
[2016-09-18 10:21:37] BitMEX_Wally : Then place a limit to sell to enter, and then place a stop market to buy
[2016-09-18 10:21:39] habibi : limit order + stop limit
[2016-09-18 10:21:49] mmarwaha : thanks guys
[2016-09-18 10:31:28] mmarwaha : BitMEX_Wally: so basically if i want to take a short position with stop loss and take profit, i will have to place 3 different orders right?
[2016-09-18 10:32:08] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-09-18 10:32:32] BitMEX_Wally : Yes. The API supports OTO and OCO orders, but they're not available on the frontend yet. Once we they are you can submit all 3 orders in one go and they'll be linked
[2016-09-18 11:00:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 367 @ 0.02115
[2016-09-18 11:03:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.02111 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-18 12:16:51] Velancry : better start shorting XBT :D
[2016-09-18 12:19:27] Teddy76 : no because we're sunday, and sunday is bullish for XBT ;)
[2016-09-18 12:21:16] Velancry : YEP thats exactly why we go down now :D
[2016-09-18 12:21:20] Velancry : we just went up
[2016-09-18 12:26:18] Susperia : BTC is dead after Finex rekt
[2016-09-18 12:27:30] Susperia : Used only to play with alts. Even narcos using XMR now
[2016-09-18 12:27:32] Teddy76 : lol, feel free to short it mate, you're on the right place to do it
[2016-09-18 12:31:28] habibi : Susperia: they don't actually but if they would they still need to buy btc at the first place
[2016-09-18 12:33:46] rullwull : Susperia: if BTC is dead than all crypto is dead. don't be a full to invest in shitcoins, touch alts only to trade during pumps/dumps
[2016-09-18 12:35:24] Kalman : Susperia: https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/
[2016-09-18 12:35:50] Teddy76 : XMR is too volatile right now to be used on DNM
[2016-09-18 12:45:41] zanza : do DNM's give options for Monero and Bitcoin ?
[2016-09-18 12:49:51] Teddy76 : yes, the biggest one DNM allow it
[2016-09-18 12:52:40] zanza : what is the biggest one ?
[2016-09-18 12:53:13] Teddy76 : but BTC is still the most used, because accepted by all sellers, whereas XMR is just accepted by few sellers
[2016-09-18 12:53:21] Teddy76 : AlphaBay
[2016-09-18 13:09:49] khessabi2 : BitMEX_Wally: Hi , I want to withdraw my btc a.s.ap
[2016-09-18 13:11:19] BitMEX_Wally : khessabi2: We've just processed withdrawals, so if yours was requested and confirmed before 13:00 UTC it has just been broadcast
[2016-09-18 13:12:36] khessabi2 : BitMEX_Wally: I confirmed it before 13 but cancel it again, but now change my mind , please help me I need it right now
[2016-09-18 13:13:08] khessabi2 : BitMEX_Wally: confirmed it 20min ago again
[2016-09-18 13:13:40] BitMEX_Wally : I see a withdrawal from you that was confirmed 10 minutes ago at 13:03:29 UTC
[2016-09-18 13:13:48] BitMEX_Wally : Which unfortunately missed this batch
[2016-09-18 13:20:53] khessabi2 : BitMEX_Wally: ok!!
[2016-09-18 14:45:12] +1 : Hope BTC will be bullish tomorrow
[2016-09-18 14:45:29] +1 : Is BitMEX in China already?
[2016-09-18 14:48:07] +1 : People are so focused that they don't chat anymore. LOL.
[2016-09-18 14:49:19] J_rondo : Hey guys
[2016-09-18 14:49:21] J_rondo : Anyone around?
[2016-09-18 14:49:50] J_rondo : I'm interested in discussing ZEC and XMR
[2016-09-18 14:51:29] BitMEX_Sam : +1: Chinese support is about ready, we're going to start marketing end of the month
[2016-09-18 14:52:26] J_rondo : Hey @BitMEX_Sam, why is polo able to support US users and you guys aren't?
[2016-09-18 14:53:05] BitMEX_Sam : J_rondo: That is the legal advice we have received given the type of products we offer. We believe that other exchanges do so at their own peril.
[2016-09-18 14:53:35] J_rondo : Oh wow that's fascinating, maybe I should move money out of polo, lol
[2016-09-18 14:54:27] J_rondo : BitMEX doesn't do KYC on it's users though, does that cause any of the same perils for you guys?
[2016-09-18 14:54:58] +1 : That's good news Sam. If Chinese join the market we will see more active trades and volume.
[2016-09-18 14:55:04] BitMEX_Sam : Given our products and reach, we are not required to.
[2016-09-18 14:55:22] BitMEX_Wally : Specifically the futures we offer require us to be registered with the CFTC if we want to offer them to US citizens
[2016-09-18 14:55:32] J_rondo : Ahhh
[2016-09-18 14:56:11] J_rondo : What about your products means you guys don't require KYC? Sorry for the questions, I'm just new to cryptotrading and looking for a safe exchange/trading platform to use.
[2016-09-18 14:56:24] BitMEX_Wally : We don't require KYC
[2016-09-18 14:56:31] BitMEX_Wally : Just an email address
[2016-09-18 14:56:38] J_rondo : Most of my former trading was in prop trading for european equities, so it's a whole new world
[2016-09-18 14:56:45] J_rondo : That's awesome
[2016-09-18 15:07:47] hedgehog0223 : please someone help me
[2016-09-18 15:08:04] habibi : hedgehog0223: i am sending units over ur location, help inc
[2016-09-18 15:08:24] hedgehog0223 : how to make the blue moving average indicator on my chart dissapear?
[2016-09-18 15:09:07] hedgehog0223 : is there a way to turn it off?
[2016-09-18 15:10:09] BitMEX_Sam : hedgehog0223: Fullscreen the chart, you should see indicators listed on the top left
[2016-09-18 15:10:14] habibi : right click - remove -remove all indicators
[2016-09-18 15:11:39] hedgehog0223 : thank you!
[2016-09-18 15:18:52] intergrals : Is funding amount = funding rate *leverage %?
[2016-09-18 15:22:47] habibi : funding = order value*rate will be easier
[2016-09-18 15:40:19] intergrals : Thanks!
[2016-09-18 16:23:01] Kra : hi
[2016-09-18 16:23:29] Kra : why i have entry price of BTC long 607 and market price is 608 but i still see UPNL loss?
[2016-09-18 16:23:53] Kra : ok nothing osrry
[2016-09-18 16:23:55] Kra : my fault
[2016-09-18 16:29:01] BitMEX_Greg : Kra: No worries. let us know if anything else.
[2016-09-18 16:36:24] zanza : Can't belive BitFinex gained back 30% of their precrash market share already
[2016-09-18 16:36:41] zanza : thats gotta be a Darwin award winner
[2016-09-18 16:37:38] arbitrage001 : zanza: there is no alternative
[2016-09-18 16:37:53] arbitrage001 : on the margin and lending part
[2016-09-18 16:38:26] arbitrage001 : other exchanges apparently are not interested in meeting market demand
[2016-09-18 17:41:53] ScottJ : BitMEX_Greg: have you guys had time to look at IOTA yet?
[2016-09-18 18:06:10] dasdfasdf : Is hardware wallet support coming?
[2016-09-18 18:07:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1484 @ 0.02095
[2016-09-18 18:08:50] BitMEX_Sam : What kind of hardware wallet support are you looking for? You can certainly send us Bitcoin from any wallet
[2016-09-18 18:50:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.02078
[2016-09-18 18:50:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 18 @ 0.02078
[2016-09-18 18:52:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1042 @ 0.02074
[2016-09-18 18:53:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 30 @ 0.02071
[2016-09-18 18:53:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 417 @ 0.02071
[2016-09-18 18:55:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1619 @ 0.02057
[2016-09-18 19:05:05] mjones : devcon bulls getting rekt
[2016-09-18 19:05:10] mjones : xmr http://i.imgur.com/Dz3MmGy.png
[2016-09-18 19:07:07] mjones : guessing maybe 0.016 breaks and take off as shorts close and people get back into XMR
[2016-09-18 19:07:53] +1 : BTC is going down again?
[2016-09-18 19:08:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 32 @ 0.02032
[2016-09-18 19:08:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.02038 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-18 19:10:02] mjones : yeah btc down $2 from the most recent high
[2016-09-18 19:10:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 262 @ 0.02022
[2016-09-18 19:12:35] +1 : Who knows what will happen? LOL
[2016-09-18 19:14:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 144 @ 0.01992
[2016-09-18 19:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 150 @ 0.02016
[2016-09-18 19:17:45] mjones : probably the exchange owners and who ever pays money to get inside info
[2016-09-18 19:18:50] mjones : but xmr looks like a well controlled dump with very low volume right now
[2016-09-18 19:19:29] +1 : Hmm.. Interesting.
[2016-09-18 19:22:55] mjones : bigger with volume line http://i.imgur.com/sBrPY82.png
[2016-09-18 19:24:05] mjones : i should have longed and left it at 0.0145 here
[2016-09-18 19:24:47] mjones : especially if btc continues to be boring.
[2016-09-18 19:24:51] mjones : ETH big bounce
[2016-09-18 19:28:09] +1 : Let bygones be bygones :)