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[2016-09-03 20:37:29] mjones : there was literally no movement all week
[2016-09-03 20:37:32] mjones : 2% max
[2016-09-03 20:38:01] mjones : bitfinex just had some more hidden orders get taken out along the way
[2016-09-03 20:38:33] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-09-03 20:38:53] rapidtrades : smone knows smth, im just waiting to hear the news now
[2016-09-03 20:39:27] rapidtrades : there was also some tokens dumping but volume there wasn't so outsized
[2016-09-03 20:39:57] rapidtrades : mjones: oh yeah and f*ck ur bollinger bands
[2016-09-03 20:40:52] Tetsuo : TLDR: rabidtrnny missed the pump
[2016-09-03 20:40:55] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: bolinger bands are the shit. They work well with BTC. The mans got a point
[2016-09-03 20:41:33] rapidtrades : price didn't move because of bolliger bands u twats
[2016-09-03 20:41:39] rapidtrades : smth is up at bitfinex
[2016-09-03 20:41:52] rapidtrades : they had an entire day's worth if volume during that pump
[2016-09-03 20:42:23] Tetsuo : no one cares about fuckfinex, it´s always the chinks and the technicals that are movin BTC
[2016-09-03 20:42:42] rapidtrades : guess we'll see soon
[2016-09-03 20:46:23] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: bbands himself commented on the tight bands regarding BTC earlier this week. He said if the tightening went on any longer without a move up, it wouldn't be worth a long.
[2016-09-03 20:48:39] Tetsuo : link for twitter account , plz
[2016-09-03 20:49:08] aethlios : epic bull btc move started.
[2016-09-03 20:49:44] mjones : it's usdwhales trapped on bitfinex trying to get out without jacking up the price
[2016-09-03 20:49:53] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: f*ck Bollinger
[2016-09-03 20:50:35] rapidtrades : and f*ck you for bringing him up
[2016-09-03 20:50:49] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/bbands/status/770642271075045376
[2016-09-03 20:50:51] rapidtrades : I'm telling u this is a bitfinex pump, not bitcoin pump
[2016-09-03 20:51:04] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: k
[2016-09-03 20:51:16] aethlios : rapidtrades: go back to sleep, china pumps, others follow.
[2016-09-03 20:51:44] rapidtrades : hint: if this is a bitfinex pump, it aint gonna last long
[2016-09-03 20:53:32] mjones : btc doesnt just randomly pump 5% and go back down after weeks of doing nothing
[2016-09-03 20:54:08] rapidtrades : ok i said what i wanted to say
[2016-09-03 20:54:13] rapidtrades : ur on ur own now
[2016-09-03 20:54:21] mjones : okay. see you at $620 all
[2016-09-03 20:54:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I've been watching and waiting for BTC pump, wondering why nobody is paying attention. As far as I'm concerned this is the start of a pump and hold above 600. Now that it's moved up to 600 all of a sudden people are paying attention. Finex can suck my cock. I don't care about them
[2016-09-03 20:54:46] aethlios : in 12 hours we hit 660, in 48 hours 800, then a small retrace to 750 and next days the march to ATH starts.
[2016-09-03 20:54:50] mjones : 4000 CNY is holding too
[2016-09-03 20:55:12] mjones : maybe aethlios has sources other than his gut
[2016-09-03 20:55:16] BTCDJS : aethlios: maybe not that quick
[2016-09-03 20:55:19] rapidtrades : aethlios: ur an idiot and Tetseo is ur brother
[2016-09-03 20:55:41] aethlios : rapidtrades: Ok, go back to sleep now.
[2016-09-03 20:56:09] BTCDJS : November is the month for real pump
[2016-09-03 20:57:24] BTCDJS : According to weekly chart anyway
[2016-09-03 20:57:46] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: http://www.wikinvest.com/wiki/Recency_bias
[2016-09-03 20:59:02] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: dude. BTC is not stock market
[2016-09-03 20:59:50] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: it's a cognitive bias u dummy
[2016-09-03 21:00:59] rapidtrades : ok taking a lil break
[2016-09-03 21:01:56] BTCDJS : I know what you're getting at. And I appreciate what you're pointing me at. I definitely will keep it in consideration but stocks are different from forex and forex is different from BTC and BTC is different from other crypto markets
[2016-09-03 21:07:43] aethlios : very few btc in finex, rates already 0.05%, above usd, so price is a bit higher.
[2016-09-03 21:13:58] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: cool. sry about calling u names :)
[2016-09-03 21:14:27] rapidtrades : the rest of u are still idiots
[2016-09-03 21:15:28] BTCDJS : Lol
[2016-09-03 21:18:31] luckynuke : EY BOOOOYS
[2016-09-03 21:18:50] BTCDJS : Just to be on the safe side I'm opening my long at 556
[2016-09-03 21:27:57] luckynuke : ohhh what no "welcome back" b0is ?
[2016-09-03 21:30:31] jordanbitfort : suh dude
[2016-09-03 21:31:09] luckynuke : that makes me sad, man...
[2016-09-03 21:38:44] sleger : just not possible to be long ETH here, the MM manipulates the funding too much
[2016-09-03 21:38:56] sleger : im closing it and opening on polo
[2016-09-03 21:43:30] aethlios : btc up xmr down
[2016-09-03 21:46:58] jordanbitfort : feels good to be 50x long during a pump
[2016-09-03 21:52:09] luckynuke : lol
[2016-09-03 21:52:32] luckynuke : eh sleger
[2016-09-03 21:52:35] luckynuke : who are you ?
[2016-09-03 21:55:08] rapidtrades : $611.55 volume ฿9,561.90
[2016-09-03 21:56:06] rapidtrades : 1.5 hrs ago it was 8.777
[2016-09-03 21:57:23] Tetsuo : Bitcoin on it´s way to 1000$. Buy you fool!
[2016-09-03 22:00:25] aethlios : who is dumping the swap?? crazy??
[2016-09-03 22:01:06] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-09-03 22:01:37] aethlios : dumped below the index.
[2016-09-03 22:01:42] jordanbitfort : xbt50x silly low rn
[2016-09-03 22:01:43] rapidtrades : the party is just getting started
[2016-09-03 22:03:38] aethlios : market maker playing the market below index in a bull run.
[2016-09-03 22:04:06] aethlios : next leg up will settle the situation
[2016-09-03 22:04:16] rapidtrades : yeah right
[2016-09-03 22:06:23] rapidtrades : sleger: what do u think about this pump
[2016-09-03 22:06:50] CaptainDean : all in 50x
[2016-09-03 22:06:55] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-09-03 22:06:57] zanza : MM seem to be net short?
[2016-09-03 22:08:05] rapidtrades : well....
[2016-09-03 22:08:16] rapidtrades : smone dumped few 100k in the past 15 mins
[2016-09-03 22:08:39] rapidtrades : smone who knows smth
[2016-09-03 22:09:04] aethlios : or someone stupid
[2016-09-03 22:09:13] jordanbitfort : hopefully just taking profit from 570
[2016-09-03 22:09:35] justinlooking : someone hedging their mad xmr profits
[2016-09-03 22:10:04] jordanbitfort : i took 1/2 my xmr profits and went 50x long btc
[2016-09-03 22:11:57] mjones : come on btc. i believe in you. show them you can go up 100% too
[2016-09-03 22:12:22] CaptainDean : some great support for xmr, 5100 btc buy
[2016-09-03 22:12:36] mjones : where at
[2016-09-03 22:12:46] CaptainDean : polinex
[2016-09-03 22:13:06] mjones : i dont see 5100 btc in support close to the price. 1k btc yes
[2016-09-03 22:13:09] CaptainDean : it's the total buy order book
[2016-09-03 22:13:18] mjones : well yeah that's easy to pad
[2016-09-03 22:14:11] aethlios : 35 usd up, was xmr -20%, imagine when we hit 800.
[2016-09-03 22:15:13] CaptainDean : so you're confident about brc going to 800 ?
[2016-09-03 22:15:14] mjones : glad to see bitstamp decided to join the fun
[2016-09-03 22:15:45] aethlios : normal bull trend resume.
[2016-09-03 22:15:49] mjones : yeah btc going up
[2016-09-03 22:16:15] mjones : hoping like 30% in a week
[2016-09-03 22:17:09] rapidtrades : u ppl are insane
[2016-09-03 22:17:57] aethlios : we leave behind the finex shock
[2016-09-03 22:19:29] aethlios : negative interest rates means btc bull market.
[2016-09-03 22:19:30] CaptainDean : 1.36% dpe ?
[2016-09-03 22:20:28] justinlooking : yeh there is 115k bid 587
[2016-09-03 22:21:00] aethlios : no way to get filled
[2016-09-03 22:21:17] rapidtrades : it will get filled don't worry
[2016-09-03 22:21:20] zanza : negative funding means bitcoin is in bear market aethlios
[2016-09-03 22:21:39] jordanbitfort : Predicted funding: .37% in 15 hours
[2016-09-03 22:21:40] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: :D
[2016-09-03 22:21:47] zanza : predictive next funding rate is +.37
[2016-09-03 22:21:56] zanza : yes jordanbitfort
[2016-09-03 22:22:00] aethlios : zanza: negative rates I mean in bonds, deposits of fiat.
[2016-09-03 22:22:07] zanza : 3 hours though jordanbitfort
[2016-09-03 22:22:21] zanza : well, actually 8 + 3
[2016-09-03 22:22:33] zanza : ahh
[2016-09-03 22:24:03] CaptainDean : justinlooking: thanks for the info
[2016-09-03 22:24:47] mjones : 45 minutes till the XMR triangle closes. is it going to continue down or not
[2016-09-03 22:26:09] 24hourz : mjones: what time frame are your candles for the chart you are looking at ?
[2016-09-03 22:28:37] 24hourz : Ive been following the 1min candles chart waiting to see if it breaks either way
[2016-09-03 22:45:31] aethlios : if daily monero closes red, we have a shooting star on daily, doom.
[2016-09-03 22:54:38] Tetsuo : this will end bads for alts. It´s already paint the fucking town red day@ polo and it will get way worse
[2016-09-03 22:55:03] rapidtrades : aethlios: oh no....not the shooting star!
[2016-09-03 22:55:26] aethlios : rapidtrades: study more, chat less.
[2016-09-03 22:55:54] aethlios : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_star_(candlestick_pattern)
[2016-09-03 22:56:45] rapidtrades : f*ck shooting stars
[2016-09-03 22:56:51] rapidtrades : how about dem applez
[2016-09-03 23:00:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 100 @ 62009.0
[2016-09-03 23:07:35] rapidtrades : 607 8.777 vol
[2016-09-03 23:07:57] rapidtrades : ry ฿9,425.06
[2016-09-03 23:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 25 @ 0.018689
[2016-09-03 23:11:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.018574
[2016-09-03 23:11:48] Tetsuo : Go XMR GO; LMAO
[2016-09-03 23:13:20] Tetsuo : So many fools who thought that this scamcoin pump would be different than any other before. Every single time
[2016-09-03 23:13:45] Tetsuo : There must be a never ending resource of them
[2016-09-03 23:16:07] Tetsuo : margin call cascade @ polo
[2016-09-03 23:16:53] rapidtrades : yeah taken out too
[2016-09-03 23:17:17] rapidtrades : got much better price then expected tho
[2016-09-03 23:17:34] CaptainDean : abandon ship ! ;-)
[2016-09-03 23:19:09] rapidtrades : yeah not good if 17/18 doesn't hold
[2016-09-03 23:19:35] aethlios : δαιλυ σηοοτινγ σταρ ςιλλ κιλλ τηε βθλλσ
[2016-09-03 23:19:44] rapidtrades : screw u
[2016-09-03 23:20:11] aethlios : we said btc pump will kill xmr pump
[2016-09-03 23:20:43] aethlios : 660 btc and xmr to 0.012
[2016-09-03 23:21:05] aethlios : buy xmr 0.0071-0.0075
[2016-09-03 23:21:15] rapidtrades : we'll see XMR is now at critical area
[2016-09-03 23:21:38] aethlios : it will fall in btc, but less in usd
[2016-09-03 23:22:24] rapidtrades : not really cos btc ain't going up
[2016-09-03 23:23:19] aethlios : also eth looks weak, and shitdog
[2016-09-03 23:24:38] rapidtrades : i had a stop limit at 0.0175 but got executed at 0.0185
[2016-09-03 23:24:50] rapidtrades : jesus was watching over me today
[2016-09-03 23:25:24] rapidtrades : i think polo went down too fast for the orderbook here to keep up
[2016-09-03 23:27:24] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: yes there is some lag here during a period of huge fluctuations. Has to be reponse time of the mm i guess
[2016-09-03 23:27:54] CaptainDean : It has to be the reponse*
[2016-09-03 23:29:21] rapidtrades : how does mark price work? why doesn't it match the index
[2016-09-03 23:29:41] CaptainDean : mm markup ?
[2016-09-03 23:29:47] billyboy402 : Why is the btc xbu mark price to fucke high while every other market is lower then the index . Although they are 30 day it shouldn't be $20 higher
[2016-09-03 23:31:19] CaptainDean : lthe markup is always higher on uptrend and closer on diwntrend
[2016-09-03 23:31:21] miramm1115 : billyboy402: not enough people shorting sept, my MM is quoting high. you are welcome to short
[2016-09-03 23:31:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9000 @ 596.39
[2016-09-03 23:32:13] rapidtrades : oh look...$592
[2016-09-03 23:33:03] habibi : Sam u should consider to re add finex to index
[2016-09-03 23:33:08] rapidtrades : NO
[2016-09-03 23:33:14] rapidtrades : are u f*cking crazy
[2016-09-03 23:33:27] habibi : rapidtrades: shut up please, noone wants to listen u here
[2016-09-03 23:33:32] rapidtrades : $608.22 < finex higher then everyone
[2016-09-03 23:34:28] aethlios : maybe 25% finex, 25% stamp
[2016-09-03 23:34:31] habibi : it was just an idea, go on then playing market that is behind so much leaders
[2016-09-03 23:35:02] habibi : Stamp is unpredictible even more then monero. Can shot up in any second to finex price
[2016-09-03 23:35:55] rapidtrades : teh goal of the index is to follow the USD market...and highest now is okc at 601 and coinbase 600
[2016-09-03 23:35:59] rapidtrades : okc already included
[2016-09-03 23:36:16] rapidtrades : itbit is 593 btce is 597
[2016-09-03 23:36:23] CaptainDean : Or a sudden out a -10$ flash crash
[2016-09-03 23:36:30] rapidtrades : like i said, it's a bitfinex only pump...it should worry u
[2016-09-03 23:37:18] habibi : yep china 3 dollars away from finex and its only finex. U are getting retarted every day a little more
[2016-09-03 23:38:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.017562
[2016-09-03 23:38:49] rapidtrades : habibi: it's $4 and again we're trading BTC USD not CNY
[2016-09-03 23:39:33] rapidtrades : u haven't learned anything...remember how pre-hack bitfinex used to bull on its own
[2016-09-03 23:39:57] rapidtrades : they trade on their own exchange, take the hint
[2016-09-03 23:40:18] rapidtrades : they know smth, could be cashing out
[2016-09-03 23:40:35] habibi : speculations. and yea i would trade on my exchange as well. pretty obvious case
[2016-09-03 23:40:49] habibi : just would hide it to customers :)
[2016-09-03 23:41:27] rapidtrades : well that's cos ur a shifty polish jew
[2016-09-03 23:42:36] rapidtrades : they did hide it...but cos they're stupid they had to brag how 2 of top 10 token holders are from the exchange
[2016-09-03 23:43:00] rapidtrades : so they inadvertently revealed it
[2016-09-03 23:43:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.017425
[2016-09-03 23:43:57] rapidtrades : yeah looks like game over for XMR
[2016-09-03 23:44:55] habibi : rapidtrades: pussy. blood is where money is being made
[2016-09-03 23:46:05] rapidtrades : easy money is over
[2016-09-03 23:47:00] rapidtrades : $609.46 finex leading again
[2016-09-03 23:47:45] d00ber : saw it first on BTC-e @rapidtrades
[2016-09-03 23:48:02] rapidtrades : saw first what
[2016-09-03 23:49:33] d00ber : finex is still higher than the rest but it moved first on btc-e
[2016-09-03 23:49:48] d00ber : if thats what you mean by leading
[2016-09-03 23:50:10] rapidtrades : yeah i think ur right
[2016-09-03 23:50:57] habibi : How to spot that rapidtrades learned sth new from wikipedia? You don't have to. He will tell u it.
[2016-09-03 23:51:08] rapidtrades : hahahha
[2016-09-03 23:54:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 150 @ 62209.0
[2016-09-03 23:55:37] rapidtrades : weird how the gap is on okc too
[2016-09-03 23:55:50] rapidtrades : usually those two trade closer
[2016-09-03 23:59:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.018479
[2016-09-03 23:59:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.018375
[2016-09-04 00:00:32] jordanbitfort : come on bitmex its time to meet up with index
[2016-09-04 01:10:24] aethlios : all sleeping??
[2016-09-04 01:13:43] CaptainDean : nope, just not at home atm
[2016-09-04 01:19:29] mjones : 24hourz: sorry i went away for a few hours.
[2016-09-04 01:19:40] mjones : seems all i missed was xmr dump
[2016-09-04 01:20:14] mjones : shame i didnt short it at the top
[2016-09-04 01:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 500 @ 0.004165
[2016-09-04 01:32:41] mjones : dang FCT dumping
[2016-09-04 01:33:16] mjones : you literally cant mine FCT. only way to get it is to buy it on the exchange. yet people are dumping FCT
[2016-09-04 01:33:34] mjones : gotta be some of the dumbest bots i know
[2016-09-04 01:35:04] mjones : at least 0.0377 is support but i'm not gonna baghold that long on here. will buy if / when it pumps
[2016-09-04 01:37:18] mjones : BTC should dump hard off 5000 CNY. once 5000 CNY breaks though then next big leg up
[2016-09-04 01:41:15] aethlios : mjones: dump or pump???
[2016-09-04 01:46:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 100 @ 61929.0
[2016-09-04 02:09:11] mjones : gotta say what coin aethlios
[2016-09-04 02:09:20] mjones : btc only going up from here
[2016-09-04 02:10:39] aethlios : mjones: about your comment for 5000 cny, you mean we go up if we break 5000???
[2016-09-04 02:11:27] aethlios : and this time ltcusd will follow above 10 I believe.
[2016-09-04 02:16:42] mjones : i believe 5000 CNY will be resistance for BTC
[2016-09-04 02:16:53] mjones : XMR breaking up btw
[2016-09-04 02:18:17] mjones : like how 3000 CNY was
[2016-09-04 02:19:26] mjones : i dunno about LTC though. the roadmap doesnt have anything that makes me wanna go buy it
[2016-09-04 02:22:12] mjones : if BTC goes up a lot the LTC/BTC will go down hard is my guess. it's so close to breaking the 0.00585 low than i dont know what that'll mean.
[2016-09-04 02:22:38] mjones : hitting new lows not seen in 4 years. cant be good for LTC
[2016-09-04 02:22:58] mjones : so many other coins you have rather bagheld
[2016-09-04 02:23:29] mjones : LTC literally looks like a normal shit coin when you look at the LTC/BTC chart.
[2016-09-04 02:24:24] mjones : unless you were lucky enough to buy a few days in the last 4 years you were better off buying something else
[2016-09-04 02:27:08] aethlios : I have LTC, is the 2nd oldest most secure blockchain, can attract investors. Thos stability I think is a trick from speculators to buy as more by miners the first 8 years, then only 25% of coins will be left.
[2016-09-04 02:27:49] aethlios : bought around 4 usd my position.
[2016-09-04 02:39:12] mjones : i'm not really interested in LTC unless LTC/BTC is mooning
[2016-09-04 02:39:46] mjones : i will say the 11 weeks of semi sideways here is good
[2016-09-04 02:39:58] HackedOnBFX : alright guys, BTC moon time?
[2016-09-04 02:40:28] mjones : yeah HackedOnBFX i am just trying to figure out if it'll be a quick 30% jump in a week or a slow 7% jump here and 10% there
[2016-09-04 02:40:54] HackedOnBFX : mjones: im thinking weve unleashed the bull
[2016-09-04 02:41:03] HackedOnBFX : buttfinex cant stop btc rally :D
[2016-09-04 02:41:22] mjones : i do agree. weak hands have to have been flushed out during the dump to $475 and the month of sideways
[2016-09-04 02:42:18] HackedOnBFX : yep and we got a new local high since the BFX incident
[2016-09-04 02:43:25] mjones : should be like $700 soon. sideways. then $1000 if accumulation stage is over and ready for BTC to hit the news with $1000 broken and new ATH happening
[2016-09-04 02:43:47] HackedOnBFX : mjones: can i be 50x that whole time? lol
[2016-09-04 02:44:20] mjones : i can see google news top story BTC hits new time high 3 years later after mt gox collapse
[2016-09-04 02:44:46] mjones : yeah HackedOnBFX be 50x long. only issue is paying fees everyday
[2016-09-04 02:45:13] mjones : i say close part and relong every week
[2016-09-04 02:45:19] HackedOnBFX : right now its 0.003% so idc
[2016-09-04 02:45:19] HackedOnBFX : yeah but it depends on how bad it is
[2016-09-04 02:45:53] mjones : looking back at this time period every year shows big movement. this year should be up. just wondering if they're ready to blow the top off
[2016-09-04 02:46:02] mjones : that's the only way big money can get it
[2016-09-04 02:46:52] HackedOnBFX : yeah right after vacation time
[2016-09-04 02:48:13] mjones : yeah. last year BTC fell 70% around this time
[2016-09-04 02:48:34] mjones : i mean 2 years ago
[2016-09-04 02:48:57] mjones : last year it went up like 110% around this time
[2016-09-04 02:49:00] HackedOnBFX : were you around for that mega dump from $35 to $2?
[2016-09-04 02:49:08] mjones : nah
[2016-09-04 02:49:19] mjones : i got into BTC when it went $9 to $14 to $9 to $266
[2016-09-04 02:49:43] HackedOnBFX : so 2011
[2016-09-04 02:49:47] mjones : nah
[2016-09-04 02:49:58] mjones : 2012
[2016-09-04 02:50:13] mjones : august 2012
[2016-09-04 02:50:25] mjones : when i got the balls to buy BTC and order drugs off the darknet markets
[2016-09-04 02:51:37] HackedOnBFX : nice
[2016-09-04 02:53:18] mjones : pisses me off i was doing jack shit in 2010 like wasting time on 4chan when i could have been mining thousands of BTC or later on LTC.
[2016-09-04 02:54:02] mjones : then when ltc was pennies i didnt buy any cause i was like all in BTC d00d
[2016-09-04 03:00:52] mjones : some whale has too much btc and wants more XMR
[2016-09-04 03:19:46] herpinator : hindsight is the fuel of regret
[2016-09-04 03:32:25] mjones : yeah. still pennies to $50 will be the most epic pump ever
[2016-09-04 03:32:47] mjones : i guess btc from nothing to $1300 is better
[2016-09-04 03:33:40] mjones : anyways looks like XMR whale decided to start selling again
[2016-09-04 03:43:19] herpinator : pennies to 50? that would probably only happen if you mined a bunch and forgot about them otherwise you'd see it 2x and sell it
[2016-09-04 03:43:49] herpinator : I wonder if anyone did mine some and forgot about their wallet until the last pump that would be pretty insane
[2016-09-04 03:47:47] herpinator : I got an old btc mining guide from /g/ on my pc I checked the timestamp the other day and I saved it in 2011 if only I had followed up on that then. I didn't get my first coins until 2013. feels bad man
[2016-09-04 03:47:59] mjones : xmr crashing back down. good dead cat bounce. enjoy your bags
[2016-09-04 03:53:35] mjones : polo xmr scare wall
[2016-09-04 03:55:41] mjones : quick buy the xmr scare wall. otherwise by at 0.02
[2016-09-04 04:03:27] CaptainDean : the wall is successfull so far :P
[2016-09-04 04:06:02] CaptainDean : and gone ;-)
[2016-09-04 04:15:22] mjones : there ya go. lets not buy at 0.0181 and buy at 0.0193 instead
[2016-09-04 04:20:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LSKXBT`: Sell 2999 @ 0.000392
[2016-09-04 04:30:34] CaptainDean : still the time to get in ^
[2016-09-04 04:30:39] CaptainDean : ?
[2016-09-04 04:44:12] CaptainDean : This whale must buying a shitload of coins
[2016-09-04 04:44:20] CaptainDean : must be *
[2016-09-04 04:47:06] mjones : ton of XMR volume. some whales trying to make it the coin of choice for anon
[2016-09-04 04:48:12] mjones : xmr weekly chart is a thing of glory
[2016-09-04 04:48:28] mjones : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/poloniex/xmrbtc
[2016-09-04 04:49:07] mjones : just shows that any coin can take off when ready. looking at you FCT
[2016-09-04 04:49:18] mjones : should be able to do 400% in 24 hours eventually
[2016-09-04 04:50:47] mjones : 10x long it here before it takes off.
[2016-09-04 04:53:29] laisee : Solid betting strategy ...
[2016-09-04 04:57:28] mjones : i looked into all the coins offered here and determined FCT offers the best returns if it manages to pump like so many other coins have
[2016-09-04 04:57:48] mjones : but i got no insider info just hope and dreams
[2016-09-04 05:00:28] billz : coins don't pump on hopes and dreams but good luck lol. XMR had reason to pump, don't see the same potential in FCT rn
[2016-09-04 05:04:21] mjones : yeah. i gotta stay out of the polo trollbox. got me hyping on coins.
[2016-09-04 05:04:42] mjones : at least btc is still going sideways and not dumping. baghold this long as I go to sleep for a few hours
[2016-09-04 05:35:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 115 @ 0.020015
[2016-09-04 06:09:22] aethlios : lisk will pump 5x next 12 months, my guess
[2016-09-04 06:20:26] laisee : Aethlios: any fundamentals behind lisk?
[2016-09-04 06:21:01] laisee : like, new features or special capabilities
[2016-09-04 06:34:53] ixess : are there any caps on funding fees?
[2016-09-04 06:36:48] Tetsuo : the sky is the limit
[2016-09-04 06:37:23] BitMEX_Wally : ixess: The funding is capped at 75% of the initial margin
[2016-09-04 06:37:30] BitMEX_Wally : And the funding cannot increase by more than 75% of the maintenance margin each time
[2016-09-04 06:38:04] rapidtrades : huh didn't know that
[2016-09-04 06:38:28] rapidtrades : so that would be 1.5% for BTC
[2016-09-04 06:38:31] ixess : so it varies trader to trader?
[2016-09-04 06:39:04] BitMEX_Wally : ixess: (minimum) Initial margin meaning 2% for XBTUSD, so yes 1.5% is the max funding rate for XBTUSD
[2016-09-04 06:40:03] ixess : that is kind of scary
[2016-09-04 06:50:51] ixess : basing it on liquidation margin seems good though
[2016-09-04 07:45:53] aethlios : laisee: they released the road map for next months-years, they are similar to eth in java script, price stable 0.20-0.25, funding enough for 7 years of development.
[2016-09-04 07:48:26] CaptainDean : My long in XMR doesn't look good anymore
[2016-09-04 07:50:23] aethlios : better stay in btc now, wait for btc to top to buy back alts. top btc maybe 1150 in 2 months.
[2016-09-04 07:51:07] CaptainDean : i was going short term, the uptrend is kind of death
[2016-09-04 07:54:19] aethlios : CaptainDean: see now btc if it pumps, xmr will dump
[2016-09-04 08:14:17] ixess : can the position value change without adding longs or shorts to it?
[2016-09-04 08:28:04] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: hey Wally, how often are BVOL indexes updated, every 5 minutes?
[2016-09-04 08:29:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 7000 @ 0.002350
[2016-09-04 08:41:58] micmix : ok, I can answer my own question, updated every minute ;-)
[2016-09-04 08:45:27] woodygar : hi any admin on ?
[2016-09-04 08:46:59] ixess : im noticing my position value is changing significantly, im guessing it is do to the nonlinear curve on xbt
[2016-09-04 08:49:40] BitMEX_Arthur : woodygar: hi
[2016-09-04 08:51:53] woodygar : Hi Arthur is it possible to cancel my withdrawal, no problem if i can't
[2016-09-04 09:02:46] Kalman : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi Arthur, in the transaction history there is a column 'Fee', what is included there? Thx
[2016-09-04 09:03:09] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes you can cancel using the link in the email sent to you or on the Account -> Balances page
[2016-09-04 09:03:28] BitMEX_Arthur : Kalman: any fees paid or rebates received
[2016-09-04 09:04:04] Kalman : BitMEX_Arthur: I mean the Transaction history with subtitle 'This table contains all historical wallet transactions.'
[2016-09-04 09:04:54] Kalman : BitMEX_Arthur: I guesses but it only shows '-.--' in any currency display setting.
[2016-09-04 09:05:13] Kalman : ^guessed
[2016-09-04 09:07:15] micmix : Kalman: fee column on the account page? miners fee for withdrawals and DPE if it was applied
[2016-09-04 09:08:46] Kalman : micmix: Yes I see but this doesn't conform to what Arthur just said, 'any fees paid or rebates received'.
[2016-09-04 09:09:21] micmix : I think Arthur was talking about trade history
[2016-09-04 09:10:26] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes I was
[2016-09-04 09:10:52] BitMEX_Arthur : micmix: correct
[2016-09-04 09:11:03] micmix : of course ;-)
[2016-09-04 09:12:16] Kalman : Thx to both of you then ;)
[2016-09-04 09:13:54] Kalman : Is there a way to see the balance of fees paid or rebates received ?
[2016-09-04 09:14:22] Kalman : Balance or saldo during a period of time?
[2016-09-04 09:14:47] CaptainDean : Any recommendation for a Monero mining pool ?
[2016-09-04 09:36:11] Bacon futures trader : Is there a way to see your total pnl since account opening?
[2016-09-04 09:36:48] BitMEX_Arthur : You can download the data and construct the totals over time
[2016-09-04 09:37:08] Bacon futures trader : Alright thanks. Was just wondering if there was a build in function.
[2016-09-04 09:44:47] aethlios : lift off
[2016-09-04 10:03:08] rapidtrades : the retardation in this space gets to me sometimes
[2016-09-04 10:04:36] CaptainDean : this fake wall 555 is a joke
[2016-09-04 10:05:22] rapidtrades : on wat
[2016-09-04 10:05:31] CaptainDean : XMR polinex
[2016-09-04 10:05:57] rapidtrades : xmr is yesterday's coin
[2016-09-04 10:07:15] Bacon futures trader : rapidtrades: Retardation on what?
[2016-09-04 10:31:52] rapidtrades : $611.14 buttfinex, higher then everyone still
[2016-09-04 10:33:19] laisee : high enough to arb and buy a coffee?
[2016-09-04 11:22:30] woodygar : ok thanks Arthur
[2016-09-04 11:26:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 4 @ 0.019792 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-04 11:33:08] aethlios : how much premium do you think okcoin new quarterly will have??
[2016-09-04 12:43:39] aethlios : orderbook flashing like crazy.
[2016-09-04 12:45:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 62 @ 609.83
[2016-09-04 12:45:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1490 @ 610.97
[2016-09-04 12:53:14] wotan : btc rising are there any specific news
[2016-09-04 13:17:27] sebaas : nope, just return of the King
[2016-09-04 13:17:41] Boontjie : wotan: monero disinvestment
[2016-09-04 13:19:50] sebaas : Boontjie: that doesn't make sense, all those people needed btc to buy xmr in the first place
[2016-09-04 13:20:22] Boontjie : sure, havent seen the up and down in btc
[2016-09-04 13:20:23] sebaas : this rise needs to come from (new) fiat
[2016-09-04 13:21:02] Boontjie : sebaas: so where is the selling in monero going
[2016-09-04 13:21:18] sebaas : depends on what they do with the btc
[2016-09-04 13:21:23] sebaas : if they keep it in btc, nothing
[2016-09-04 13:21:33] sebaas : if they convert to fiat, downward pressure
[2016-09-04 13:21:51] Boontjie : dude, if you sell monero, you buy btc on most exchanges
[2016-09-04 13:21:55] sebaas : if there were high volume fiat/xmr ramps, it would make sense
[2016-09-04 13:22:08] sebaas : lol i jst explained?
[2016-09-04 13:22:12] sebaas : how did those people get xmr?
[2016-09-04 13:22:20] sebaas : through btc
[2016-09-04 13:22:26] Boontjie : bought btc and exchnaged
[2016-09-04 13:22:30] sebaas : exactly
[2016-09-04 13:22:44] Boontjie : so btc was running up and down for a month now
[2016-09-04 13:22:53] sebaas : dude
[2016-09-04 13:23:16] sebaas : people cashing out in btc did not influence this rise
[2016-09-04 13:24:24] Boontjie : so the big MM came along to take everyone stops then
[2016-09-04 13:38:36] rapidtrades : $618.55 < < spot the outlier
[2016-09-04 13:54:16] Roevenger : why are you looking for causes for the rise?
[2016-09-04 13:54:29] Roevenger : BTC went down because of the bfx fiasco
[2016-09-04 14:03:42] Panoukla : any clue why deposits pending more than 30min ?
[2016-09-04 14:06:00] rapidtrades : Roevenger: you'll see why soon
[2016-09-04 14:10:00] Panoukla : what you mean
[2016-09-04 14:10:05] Panoukla : dont do that
[2016-09-04 14:12:24] Panoukla : oops
[2016-09-04 14:28:47] BitMEX_Wally : Panoukla: It looks like your deposit just got a block confirmation
[2016-09-04 14:29:28] Panoukla : that was long but thank you
[2016-09-04 14:30:15] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, try including a higher fee next time
[2016-09-04 14:32:29] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: that funding fee issue is taking too long, I am closing my ETH and opening it somewhere else
[2016-09-04 14:33:02] mike23aa : there is some way to see trailing stop on charts?
[2016-09-04 14:33:42] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: A positive funding premium is calculated as a weighted bid over mark, and a negative funding premium as weighted ask below mark
[2016-09-04 14:34:28] sleger : the latest premium is 0.1992%, but the bid is below mark
[2016-09-04 14:34:53] sleger : it is even below index !
[2016-09-04 14:35:10] BitMEX_Wally : 0.1992% was calculated from data 10.5 to 2.5 hours ago
[2016-09-04 14:35:30] sleger : no look at the one from 1 min ago
[2016-09-04 14:35:36] sleger : how much do you see ?
[2016-09-04 14:35:57] sleger : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHXBTPI
[2016-09-04 14:36:04] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh, that is because the mark price is within the weighed bid and weighted ask price
[2016-09-04 14:36:18] BitMEX_Wally : So 0 premium above/below the current basis = 0.1992%
[2016-09-04 14:36:45] sleger : yes but the problem is that the spread is wide on alts so that's almost always the case and makes it too easy to manipulate funding
[2016-09-04 14:37:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 15 @ 62336.0
[2016-09-04 14:37:22] sleger : anyways, I have a long ETH position. The price has been flat and even going down over past 8/16 hours but I still pay a premium and that's not normal
[2016-09-04 14:37:39] BitMEX_Wally : We will widen the tolerance from 0.05% to 0.25%, announcement will be soon
[2016-09-04 14:38:02] BitMEX_Wally : So it will basically track the underlying interest rate unless there is a severe premium
[2016-09-04 14:38:19] nip : which means there will be a severe premium often
[2016-09-04 14:38:49] BitMEX_Wally : To cause a severe premium you have to be prepared to bid it up or down for 8 hours...
[2016-09-04 14:38:53] sleger : Didnt arthur said yesterday that there wont be changes before october ?
[2016-09-04 14:39:21] BitMEX_Wally : The move from DPE to de-leveraging won't be until October
[2016-09-04 14:40:08] BitMEX_Wally : We'll let you know the plan for the funding tolerance soon
[2016-09-04 14:40:42] sleger : yeah well in the meantime 0.2% 3x per day, no thanks, and I noticed other people saying the same
[2016-09-04 14:43:02] BitMEX_Wally : Go long ETH elsewhere and short here then :P
[2016-09-04 14:44:40] Boontjie : BitMEX_Wally: he wants a net long position i guess?
[2016-09-04 14:47:20] BitMEX_Wally : He can go doubly long else where, and short here. Then he gets his long plus earns funding here
[2016-09-04 14:48:22] Boontjie : but you pay fees for margin elsewhere :)
[2016-09-04 14:48:50] Boontjie : So you must pray its lower and that there is liquidity when you exit
[2016-09-04 14:48:57] sleger : yeah and 3 days later the MM decides to manipulate the other way cause his position has changed ...
[2016-09-04 14:49:14] sleger : I just want to be long and pay the true funding rate, I can do that at polo
[2016-09-04 14:49:27] sleger : only 3k more eth to close
[2016-09-04 14:49:41] Boontjie : sleger: I understand, I have been abusing the funding rate
[2016-09-04 14:49:50] Boontjie : Thank you for paying me ;)
[2016-09-04 14:50:23] sleger : I made 60btc of profit on that position, so thanks for losing them
[2016-09-04 14:50:39] Boontjie : sleger: I shorted at 0.021
[2016-09-04 14:50:54] Boontjie : Got profits and funding
[2016-09-04 14:53:36] Boontjie : sleger: It looks like longing will make you money now though. So you will get all that funding back
[2016-09-04 15:09:19] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: will the 0.25% tolerance apply to all instruments or only ethxbt?
[2016-09-04 15:14:28] HackedOnBFX : hi, why does it say my realized PNL is 4 XBT but I havent closed any of my position?
[2016-09-04 15:25:07] BitMEX_Wally : HackedOnBFX: Realised PNL is cumulative for perpetual swaps
[2016-09-04 15:26:56] BitMEX_Wally : lockhedge: Plan is all instruments
[2016-09-04 15:34:12] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: don't think it's a good idea for xbtusd as long as bitfinex swaps are used to calculate the underlying interest rate
[2016-09-04 15:39:51] zanza : sleger the funding is 0 sum
[2016-09-04 15:40:09] sleger : zanza: duh
[2016-09-04 15:40:49] zanza : seems like people who complain about the funding rates don't really understand how it works
[2016-09-04 15:41:33] HackedOnBFX : zanza: +1
[2016-09-04 15:41:50] zanza : but you can't have 50x leverage future, that trades at spot without funding rate
[2016-09-04 15:44:56] daveberns1 : what happened to the BTC / CNY? also wasnt there an a shares index at one point??
[2016-09-04 15:45:36] justinlooking : don't recall cny here, u mean xbj/yen?
[2016-09-04 15:48:20] rapidtrades : is monero donero?
[2016-09-04 15:49:01] rapidtrades : i had such high hopes for that coin
[2016-09-04 15:49:25] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: for now
[2016-09-04 15:50:31] rapidtrades : i don't short moon coins but if it falls below 18 again, it wouldn't be the worst trade in history
[2016-09-04 15:51:41] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: i aint touching it with a 10 ft pole
[2016-09-04 15:52:03] zanza : i hope not, i invested a lot into it rapidtrades
[2016-09-04 15:53:03] rapidtrades : zanza lies a lot
[2016-09-04 15:54:09] rapidtrades : is this like the time u sent 50k to buttfinex 2 days after the hack
[2016-09-04 15:54:50] HackedOnBFX : hahaa
[2016-09-04 16:11:01] HackedOnBFX : XBT perp swap getting action
[2016-09-04 16:17:59] rapidtrades : im still callimg BS on this rally
[2016-09-04 16:21:29] HackedOnBFX : and why is that
[2016-09-04 16:21:43] zanza : lol
[2016-09-04 16:22:16] zanza : yeah, it seems like someone artifically wanted to spik the price up
[2016-09-04 16:22:46] HackedOnBFX : actually i think its the opposite
[2016-09-04 16:22:51] HackedOnBFX : someone shorting bfore the BFX incident
[2016-09-04 16:23:06] HackedOnBFX : now headed back to where we were
[2016-09-04 16:23:42] rapidtrades : yeah u all think that
[2016-09-04 16:23:53] rapidtrades : that's why we'll be back below 600 in no time
[2016-09-04 16:23:57] HackedOnBFX : we all?
[2016-09-04 16:24:00] HackedOnBFX : you mean me ?
[2016-09-04 16:24:01] HackedOnBFX : lol
[2016-09-04 16:24:05] rapidtrades : this stupid chat
[2016-09-04 16:24:20] habibi : and the rapidtrades on top of that "stupid chat" hill
[2016-09-04 16:24:39] HackedOnBFX : habibi: well he's got a short to protect
[2016-09-04 16:24:52] rapidtrades : it's easy to be on top when everyone's an idiot
[2016-09-04 16:25:19] HackedOnBFX : well im long a few million
[2016-09-04 16:25:29] habibi : HackedOnBFX: guess u right, or just typical stupidity he shows everyday
[2016-09-04 16:25:56] HackedOnBFX : habibi: im not around here to know but i just assume most everyone is trolling
[2016-09-04 16:26:59] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: hey bro, dont get margin called when this baby goes moonbound
[2016-09-04 16:27:58] rapidtrades : i was never short dummy
[2016-09-04 16:28:07] rapidtrades : finex closed my short at 604
[2016-09-04 16:28:27] HackedOnBFX : lol
[2016-09-04 16:28:30] habibi : :D
[2016-09-04 16:28:35] HackedOnBFX : "stupid chat" "everyones an idiot" "dummy"
[2016-09-04 16:28:42] HackedOnBFX : u mad bro?
[2016-09-04 16:29:12] rapidtrades : not really groupthink annoys me
[2016-09-04 16:30:13] habibi : rapidtrades: u really think u are special, i guess its another cognitive bias u learned about
[2016-09-04 16:30:30] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: welcome to crypto
[2016-09-04 16:30:35] rapidtrades : it is actually @habibi
[2016-09-04 16:32:17] rapidtrades : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
[2016-09-04 16:36:32] HackedOnBFX : rapidtrades: so I should vote Trump is what you're saying?
[2016-09-04 16:38:11] MrRGnome : Jesus rapid I am rarely in here, but universally when I am you are having trouble playing nice with the other children. You have some kind of personality problem or something?
[2016-09-04 16:38:29] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: vote johnsonweld ;)
[2016-09-04 16:38:33] HackedOnBFX : MrRGnome: lol
[2016-09-04 16:38:46] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: idk wtf that is
[2016-09-04 16:39:06] HackedOnBFX : MrRGnome: trolls not here to make friends
[2016-09-04 16:39:27] MrRGnome : Nah I don't think rapid os trolling, he does sometimes
[2016-09-04 16:39:28] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: yeah my problem is that I DON'T LIKE YOU
[2016-09-04 16:39:46] HackedOnBFX : rapid
[2016-09-04 16:39:46] HackedOnBFX : i love you
[2016-09-04 16:39:51] HackedOnBFX : dont you ever forget it
[2016-09-04 16:39:56] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: www.johnsonweld.com
[2016-09-04 16:40:06] MrRGnome : Yeah rapid feel the love. Let it sooth your angsty soul
[2016-09-04 16:40:46] justinlooking : rapid's playbook: https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
[2016-09-04 16:42:08] MrRGnome : You guys give rapid too much credit. There is no playbook. He just reacts defensively to everything that could be percieved critical
[2016-09-04 16:42:21] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: oh gary johnson
[2016-09-04 16:42:29] HackedOnBFX : hes ok
[2016-09-04 16:45:14] HackedOnBFX : justinlooking: @MrRGnome @Kalman whats the consensus? u buying this rally?
[2016-09-04 16:46:44] MrRGnome : I'm already in at $570, just looking for my chance to get of the train. I find it more profitable and less risky to ride down because it happens much faster
[2016-09-04 16:49:02] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: more printing in the FED pipeline; whatever a "safe bet" is this is close to it ;)
[2016-09-04 16:49:27] justinlooking : HackedOnBFX: not sure, am focused on xmr on polo
[2016-09-04 16:50:00] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: who said that? i dont think theyre doing more qe
[2016-09-04 16:50:33] HackedOnBFX : justinlooking: nice, i was too but when i saw that BTC pop, I came right over here
[2016-09-04 16:52:46] Kalman : HackedOnBFX: to each his own ;)
[2016-09-04 16:55:16] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: theyre going to do something
[2016-09-04 17:00:39] HackedOnBFX : Kalman: they have more tools than QE though. Also dont be surprised to see us turn into japan.
[2016-09-04 17:02:56] sleger : HackedOnBFX: "us" ?
[2016-09-04 17:02:57] HackedOnBFX : bro whoever sent that gentlemans guide to forum spies
[2016-09-04 17:03:00] HackedOnBFX : thats a mindfuck
[2016-09-04 17:03:17] HackedOnBFX : mind-f-u-c-k