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[2016-09-03 07:18:32] mjones : how fucking about it
[2016-09-03 07:18:50] mjones : up 400% what an awesome thing to wake up to
[2016-09-03 07:22:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 500 @ 0.02044
[2016-09-03 07:22:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2000 @ 0.02053
[2016-09-03 07:23:32] CaptainDean : hard to re-enter nopw ..
[2016-09-03 07:24:16] mjones : yeah price could drop 20% in a minute
[2016-09-03 07:24:21] mjones : or rocket up again
[2016-09-03 07:25:03] CaptainDean : sell wall @ 2330 ... but it won't last i think
[2016-09-03 07:25:34] billz : $13 is way to expensive. Could go to $15 cause of fomo but i don't see this lasting long
[2016-09-03 07:28:22] rapidtrades : jessica biel makes this movie worth it
[2016-09-03 07:29:14] CaptainDean : short tempting .. but so no in the trend :P
[2016-09-03 07:29:23] CaptainDean : noy*
[2016-09-03 07:29:26] CaptainDean : not
[2016-09-03 07:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.021708
[2016-09-03 07:41:41] CaptainDean : going for a smoke
[2016-09-03 07:41:44] CaptainDean : this is crazy !!!
[2016-09-03 07:41:46] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-09-03 07:42:01] CaptainDean : just wish I had keep my re-entrance @ 20
[2016-09-03 07:43:20] aethlios : eth crashed a bit
[2016-09-03 07:45:24] mjones : surprise there isn't more people profit taking in xmr
[2016-09-03 07:48:08] laisee : mjones: I did, 2X today
[2016-09-03 07:52:18] laisee : too volatile to hold overnight
[2016-09-03 07:53:08] rapidtrades : there's no overnight in 24h market
[2016-09-03 07:54:54] aethlios : pumpers pump xmr hard, so they will dump hard also.
[2016-09-03 07:59:09] rapidtrades : 23 baby!!!
[2016-09-03 08:00:56] laisee : rapidtrades: crypto markets never sleep, but i do
[2016-09-03 08:09:51] CaptainDean : volume is going down but we are still in a uptrand
[2016-09-03 08:11:31] aethlios : MFI at xmr reached 100!!!! never seen before.
[2016-09-03 08:11:53] aethlios : MFI 100 on daily, if this is not overbought....
[2016-09-03 08:20:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 19 @ 0.023436
[2016-09-03 08:20:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 1650 @ 0.023634
[2016-09-03 08:22:59] laisee : once, twice, three times a profit ....
[2016-09-03 08:36:18] CaptainDean : fist negative 5 min candle sin ce a long time
[2016-09-03 08:37:21] aethlios : reached ltc market cap
[2016-09-03 08:43:04] CaptainDean : a lot of buy support
[2016-09-03 08:44:38] willybot : those buying now make my heart warm and my pockets fat
[2016-09-03 08:51:08] aethlios : I had a position from 0.00247 and sold 0.01475, but I don't regret.
[2016-09-03 08:51:27] aethlios : it was a good trade.
[2016-09-03 08:56:02] CaptainDean : indeed
[2016-09-03 08:57:20] aethlios : 10.000 xmr position
[2016-09-03 08:57:48] CaptainDean : sell or buy ?
[2016-09-03 08:58:22] aethlios : CaptainDean: I had 10.000 xmr from 0.00247 and sold 0.01475.
[2016-09-03 08:58:32] CaptainDean : holy fuck
[2016-09-03 09:00:36] CaptainDean : i don't this will go down soon
[2016-09-03 09:00:39] CaptainDean : support is extreme
[2016-09-03 09:00:45] aethlios : also yesterday I bought 500 btc okcoin quarterly, target 1140, stop loss 440, I will risk xmr profits.
[2016-09-03 09:01:08] CaptainDean : i have one BTC to play with
[2016-09-03 09:01:09] CaptainDean : hahahah
[2016-09-03 09:01:12] CaptainDean : not the same game
[2016-09-03 09:01:55] CaptainDean : ig I had that mych i would clear my debts :P
[2016-09-03 09:02:05] CaptainDean : if I had that much*
[2016-09-03 09:05:27] rapidtrades : ur gambling debts?
[2016-09-03 09:05:51] CaptainDean : no, if I had 500 BTC I would sell some for my debts / house
[2016-09-03 09:06:02] CaptainDean : trade money I can loose :P
[2016-09-03 09:06:15] aethlios : CaptainDean: you don't need 500 to go long 500.
[2016-09-03 09:07:24] CaptainDean : you were 10x ?
[2016-09-03 09:07:31] CaptainDean : it's still 50 BTC :P
[2016-09-03 09:11:11] rapidtrades : no xmr nooo
[2016-09-03 09:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 549 @ 0.022801
[2016-09-03 09:12:54] rapidtrades : i had such high hopes for u xmr
[2016-09-03 09:13:27] aethlios : xmr broke all records, 100 mfi daily
[2016-09-03 09:13:40] rapidtrades : mfi?
[2016-09-03 09:14:07] CaptainDean : month funding invesment ? ( i ahve no idea)
[2016-09-03 09:15:02] CaptainDean : Money Flow Index
[2016-09-03 09:16:25] aethlios : money flow index reached 100 on daily. most important index in tech. analysis in my opinion
[2016-09-03 09:17:13] rapidtrades : yeah right
[2016-09-03 09:17:52] rapidtrades : i see 98 but who's counting
[2016-09-03 09:19:21] rapidtrades : aethlios: what's so important about it? looks like a regular overbought indy
[2016-09-03 09:20:09] aethlios : it is like rsi but takes volume also, so understands fake moves
[2016-09-03 09:20:42] CaptainDean : 507 BTC buy walll might be fake tho
[2016-09-03 09:21:12] billz : latest 2 hour candle not looking so hot on polo either
[2016-09-03 09:23:33] rapidtrades : aethlios: so u sell when?
[2016-09-03 09:24:45] rapidtrades : at 80, 90, 95?
[2016-09-03 09:25:16] aethlios : rapidtrades: how to use mfi?? usually when starts mfi going down after reached a high above 80, and btc doesn't go down yet, there is a possible top. 80 and above overbought, 20 and lower oversold.
[2016-09-03 09:26:09] rapidtrades : it didn't work great on monero....or work at all
[2016-09-03 09:26:19] aethlios : rapidtrades: check daily and 4h charts at tradingview and add volume and mfi to see how worked in the past.
[2016-09-03 09:26:50] rapidtrades : im looking at it right now
[2016-09-03 09:27:04] rapidtrades : how does it account for volume
[2016-09-03 09:27:46] aethlios : rapidtrades: search for the formula in google.
[2016-09-03 09:28:24] rapidtrades : i don't want to know that bad :)
[2016-09-03 09:28:33] aethlios : rapidtrades: use bitfinex or stamp chart where volume is real, not fake okcoin
[2016-09-03 09:29:40] rapidtrades : lol bitfinex
[2016-09-03 09:30:24] aethlios : rapidtrades: check the top at 800, mfi started going down before the price, showed a top has formed 2 days before, daily chart, also when dumped at 475 it was 12 really oversold.
[2016-09-03 09:30:27] rapidtrades : it don't see the benefit of MFI, looks like a regular oscillator...flashing sell during rallies
[2016-09-03 09:30:27] Pilot : If I close my xmr 7 day, can i reopen later but still keep profits from the top
[2016-09-03 09:30:41] Pilot : I my be stupid but new to contracts and bitmex in general
[2016-09-03 09:31:21] rapidtrades : aethlios: it printed 98 when xmr was at 0.007
[2016-09-03 09:32:50] aethlios : rapidtrades: yes but the important use is when it starts going down after it topped.
[2016-09-03 09:33:31] rapidtrades : right but it would still take u out
[2016-09-03 09:33:43] CaptainDean : Pilot: If you close your position with profit, you'll be able to get your profit only friday,
[2016-09-03 09:34:01] rapidtrades : it looks a bit cleaner then Stoch but suffers from the same problems
[2016-09-03 09:34:16] aethlios : Pilot: yes you can make as many trades you want
[2016-09-03 09:34:21] CaptainDean : Pilot: only the profit is luck, not the original position
[2016-09-03 09:34:45] Pilot : So if I close, take profits, reopen at the bottom, there is do downside to it
[2016-09-03 09:35:08] CaptainDean : just that you don't have access to your profit right away
[2016-09-03 09:35:39] CaptainDean : i went and out a few times today already
[2016-09-03 09:35:44] CaptainDean : in and out*
[2016-09-03 09:36:25] CaptainDean : i need to go to bed ... 5:36 am
[2016-09-03 09:36:42] CaptainDean : XMR looks calm now
[2016-09-03 09:38:11] CaptainDean : good uptrend forming
[2016-09-03 09:46:41] CaptainDean : later guys, i'm out
[2016-09-03 09:58:47] Tetsuo : Come on u fuckhead XMR , pop, i need BTC& LTC&ETH to rise & shine, your bubble money needs to convert to it!
[2016-09-03 10:41:41] laisee : Tetsuo: you can't expect them all to be bubbly and hyped on same day, surely ... :-/
[2016-09-03 11:07:13] Tetsuo : nice & steadyuptrend is whati´m waitin for. my body ain´t ready to trade another bubble : - D
[2016-09-03 11:11:11] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: pussy
[2016-09-03 11:11:26] rapidtrades : nice and steady wont give u 70% per day
[2016-09-03 11:12:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.024279
[2016-09-03 11:12:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.024247
[2016-09-03 11:32:04] rapidtrades : 30 here we comeeeeeeee
[2016-09-03 11:33:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 294 @ 0.026132
[2016-09-03 11:33:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 152 @ 0.026323
[2016-09-03 11:35:39] willybot : lol who shorts a fucking raging titan
[2016-09-03 11:37:51] rapidtrades : i thinkk we just surpassed LTC
[2016-09-03 11:41:27] Thedude : Support around?
[2016-09-03 11:44:12] Tetsuo : byebye titan
[2016-09-03 11:45:11] BitMEX_Arthur : Thedude: How can I help
[2016-09-03 11:46:11] Thedude : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi Arthur, I was wondering how the chances to alt funding are coming along.
[2016-09-03 11:47:22] BitMEX_Arthur : Thedude: We will be rolling out an auto deleveraging system that will help alleviate the volatility in alt funding, but that will go live in early october.
[2016-09-03 11:48:29] BitMEX_Arthur : But if an altcoin has a very high or low funding rate that represents the market's bullish or bearish view on that particular coin's price. There is nothing we can do about that.
[2016-09-03 11:48:37] Thedude : BitMEX_Arthur: Is the sensitivy of premium funding still being increased? From what I understood it was being discussed to increase it from 0.05 to 0.25 to prevent premium funding from kicking in so quickly
[2016-09-03 11:49:03] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes those changes will go into effect along side the auto deleveraging system
[2016-09-03 11:49:09] BitMEX_Arthur : a formal announcement will be made in the coming days
[2016-09-03 11:49:58] Thedude : BitMEX_Arthur: Problem is that the XBT funding rate on polo is shared among altcoins so when one coin is pumping and taking up lots of BTC funding it means funding rates go up for all other coins aswell regardless of bullish sentiment
[2016-09-03 11:50:59] BitMEX_Arthur : The premium that the swap trades at on BitMEX has a much larger effect than the XBT funding rate on Polo
[2016-09-03 11:51:13] Thedude : BitMEX_Arthur: So most likely no changes to the system before october then?
[2016-09-03 11:51:21] BitMEX_Arthur : Correct
[2016-09-03 11:51:32] Thedude : Thats sad to hear :(
[2016-09-03 11:51:49] BitMEX_Arthur : And if you think the funding rate is too high or too low, you can always short or go long the swap to capture that interest
[2016-09-03 11:52:02] BitMEX_Arthur : We don't favour one side over the other, long vs. short
[2016-09-03 11:53:06] Thedude : Its not just the height of the rate its also its one sidedness if you look at ETH for example its rarely a negative rate almost always a positive one and daily rates of 0.5-1% daily are common
[2016-09-03 11:54:02] Thedude : BitMEX_Arthur: I dont understand how others are keeping longs open at the moment the interest is just killing me.
[2016-09-03 12:03:09] billyboy402 : 0.0050% that a pretty low rate has it been higher ?
[2016-09-03 12:11:18] justinlooking : eat
[2016-09-03 12:11:20] justinlooking : sleep
[2016-09-03 12:11:22] justinlooking : rekt
[2016-09-03 12:20:03] willybot : on bitmex you dont need a stop loss. You just yolo what your happy to lose
[2016-09-03 12:23:50] justinlooking : bounce u cunt
[2016-09-03 12:24:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 120 @ 0.023504
[2016-09-03 12:33:44] Tetsuo : lol who longs a tumbling giant
[2016-09-03 12:35:03] justinlooking : the same guy that shorted all the way up
[2016-09-03 12:36:20] Tetsuo : probably
[2016-09-03 12:58:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.023102 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-03 12:58:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 27 @ 0.023066
[2016-09-03 13:26:50] rapidtrades : just noticed that btce started to charge rollover fees
[2016-09-03 13:26:56] rapidtrades : mofos
[2016-09-03 14:07:12] rapidtrades : tokens are gonna be attractive short soon, with price capped at $1 and all
[2016-09-03 14:19:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 10 @ 0.024358
[2016-09-03 14:45:28] mjones : i'm wondering if this is a head and shoulders on the 15 minute xmr chart.
[2016-09-03 14:46:19] mjones : dump here and not bounce at 0.0226 then fall to like 0.02
[2016-09-03 15:02:00] Tetsuo : might take 1-2 days to unfold
[2016-09-03 15:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.023105
[2016-09-03 15:26:05] GammaHammer : Does anybody know why the REKT prices which are posted here in the box are different than the real execution fills in the account?
[2016-09-03 15:26:44] Rado : Sup punks
[2016-09-03 15:26:52] Rado : back from my vacation
[2016-09-03 15:28:31] BitMEX_Sam : GammaHammer: You have an email
[2016-09-03 15:33:53] GammaHammer : Please see your email - assuming you haven't turned off liquidation emails, there should be a very detailed explanation there. Essentially, positions are liquidated with some margin still remaining because the liquidation engine must have a small amount of buffer to liquidate the position at market. If it weren't for the buffer, most liquidations would execute in the red and we'd have regular system loss. If there are any remaining funds left over after the market liquidation, the funds are entered into the insurance fund where they can offset DPE in the future. The REKT bot is not controlled by us - it is run by a user - but it is reading from our `liquidation` websocket feed, which reads the price at which the liquidation was entered into the market, not the price at which it was taken from the user.
[2016-09-03 15:34:27] GammaHammer : Who is the user who controls the REKT bot?
[2016-09-03 15:34:33] Tetsuo : Me
[2016-09-03 15:34:53] GammaHammer : So, based on what you trigger the liquidation?
[2016-09-03 15:35:04] GammaHammer : on which price
[2016-09-03 15:35:09] willybot : yo any mods up what if I need an emergency withdraw
[2016-09-03 15:35:19] Tetsuo : Denied
[2016-09-03 15:36:14] GammaHammer : debied what?
[2016-09-03 15:36:29] Tetsuo : Both, explanation and wthdrawl
[2016-09-03 15:37:15] GammaHammer : If you are serious and not a troll, it is starting to get ridiculous
[2016-09-03 15:37:22] BitMEX_Sam : GammaHammer: That is simply a chatbot, it does not actually trigger liquidations.
[2016-09-03 15:37:36] BitMEX_Sam : Also, did you receive the liquidation email? It goes into quite a bit of detail about the numbers.
[2016-09-03 15:37:45] BitMEX_Sam : There is more detail at https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation.
[2016-09-03 15:38:34] BitMEX_Sam : The XMR price comes from Poloniex. You can see that detail on the bottom-left of the screen, and the full specification by clicking `More Details...`
[2016-09-03 15:39:53] GammaHammer : So, it means it triggers far above to protect Bitmex as an exchange ( which the insurance fund is mostly for ) and then also for clients after..
[2016-09-03 15:40:00] GammaHammer : The price was triggered far away
[2016-09-03 15:40:01] GammaHammer : With 5% Maintenance Margin, your liquidation price was 0.023105 and your bankruptcy price was 0.021885 (i.e. 0% margin). At the time of liquidation (Sat, 03 Sep 2016 15:09:36 GMT), the price of the .XMRXBT30M Index dropped to 0.023137. The contract you were trading, XMR7D, had a Mark Price of 0.022907, which is based on this index.
[2016-09-03 15:40:08] GammaHammer : Its good for your clients to know
[2016-09-03 15:40:18] BitMEX_Sam : This is very clearly laid out in the contract specifications.
[2016-09-03 15:40:47] BitMEX_Sam : The insurance fund is not profit for BitMEX, it is used to keep DPE down for other clients. This helps prevent risky traders from causing losses for everyone else.
[2016-09-03 15:41:03] GammaHammer : I didnt say profit for Bitmex, I said to secure the exchange
[2016-09-03 15:41:31] BitMEX_Sam : Trading is always sum-zero on BitMEX - the insurance fund doesn't protect us, it protects users.
[2016-09-03 15:42:05] GammaHammer : Is there a way too to see when you have an position when exactly the liquidation will be triggered?
[2016-09-03 15:42:15] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, the red number, "Liquidation Price".
[2016-09-03 15:42:21] habibi : GammaHammer: its called liq price
[2016-09-03 15:42:43] habibi : kinda tricky, isn't it?
[2016-09-03 15:42:54] willybot : insurance fund should be the weekly piss up fund for the boys
[2016-09-03 15:43:32] GammaHammer : And that liq price is then linked to the spot feed, in the case of XMR, the poloniex price... Is it the bid, ask or last price?
[2016-09-03 15:44:26] BitMEX_Sam : It's based on trades, so last.
[2016-09-03 15:45:30] GammaHammer : That means, every time a position which gets liquidated on ISOLATED margin, every time somethings gets added to the insurance fund, correct?
[2016-09-03 15:46:01] GammaHammer : In the listed futures market, like DAX or ES, your executions are the base for PNL
[2016-09-03 15:47:06] BitMEX_Sam : Any time a position is liquidated, there may be an insurance fund credit or debit depending on current market liquidity.
[2016-09-03 15:47:28] GammaHammer : yes, for the insurance fund it is either a credit or debit
[2016-09-03 15:47:51] GammaHammer : for the trader, it is mostly always a loss in times of non fast market
[2016-09-03 15:50:57] GammaHammer : Does Bitmex publish each trade how it contributes to the insurance fund?
[2016-09-03 15:53:24] BitMEX_Sam : GammaHammer: We do not yet, this is something we plan to do, but it takes some dev work on our side because liquidations do not necessarily clear instantly.
[2016-09-03 15:54:16] GammaHammer : How big is the DPE, is that published?
[2016-09-03 15:55:12] BitMEX_Sam : GammaHammer: Yes, https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory
[2016-09-03 15:56:45] GammaHammer : Where can the DPE amount be found in the settlement history?
[2016-09-03 15:58:05] BitMEX_Sam : It's the last column.
[2016-09-03 15:58:59] GammaHammer : tax rate?
[2016-09-03 16:00:47] willybot : everyone knows that bitmex make money on the liquidations and that the insurance fund is dodgy as hell
[2016-09-03 16:01:17] willybot : doesnt bother me because the site performs quite well
[2016-09-03 16:02:39] BitMEX_Sam : GammaHammer: Yes
[2016-09-03 16:02:46] BitMEX_Sam : willybot: We'd appreciate if you'd stick to the facts.
[2016-09-03 16:03:20] GammaHammer : Bitmex doesnt make money on liquidations
[2016-09-03 16:04:07] GammaHammer : It is just that the DPE grows.. Whcih is good for Bitmex and the users as an exchange in case of big moves like some weeks ago when XBT dropped sharply and Bitmex doesnt liquidate @market like other exchanges\
[2016-09-03 16:04:30] BitMEX_Sam : We attempt to liquidate at market, but that can't always be done without significant loss.
[2016-09-03 16:04:39] BitMEX_Sam : Depends on the size of the liquidation & the current liquidity.
[2016-09-03 16:04:57] GammaHammer : Sure, completely understand your book
[2016-09-03 16:05:09] BitMEX_Sam : By "the DPE grows", I assume you mean the insurance fund, but you can see by the history that this is not always so. We've seem gappy moves on some contracts in the past and the fund has had to be used.
[2016-09-03 16:05:30] GammaHammer : yes
[2016-09-03 16:06:31] willybot : BitMEX_Sam: it just doesnt add up. You guys have one of the best exchanges but its too quite. Either this is an affiliate dream or its the number 1 scam in crypto
[2016-09-03 16:07:07] willybot : Who is in charge of marketing and business development?
[2016-09-03 16:07:11] BitMEX_Sam : willybot: It's not a scam - Honestly I believe the biggest issue is that derivs are very complex, and until recently we did very little to attempt to make them easier to understand.
[2016-09-03 16:07:14] BitMEX_Sam : willybot: Arthur/Greg
[2016-09-03 16:07:36] mjones : i'm surprised by how slow this trollbox is and lack of traders
[2016-09-03 16:07:58] willybot : BitMEX_Sam: I agree with the above. Most people are scared of the complexity. People are dumb, they need basics
[2016-09-03 16:08:43] BitMEX_Sam : And unfortunately, we're forced to ratchet up the complexity even more in some cases to boost liquidity (consolidating futures into the perpetual swap) and manage risk (DPE)
[2016-09-03 16:09:36] willybot : BitMEX_Sam: I know I am a monster troll but I have become very interested in this site
[2016-09-03 16:10:05] GammaHammer : its delta one, so its not complex at all... It should just be clarified .. You can offer higher leverage the more you have in the insurance fund and like that generate more trades and get more money on the turnover... Bitmex, as all other exchanges, make most of the money when people trade and generate commission without having problems of customer defaults which can be minimized the higher the insurance fund is
[2016-09-03 16:10:41] willybot : BitMEX_Sam: after digging deeper it seems to be an amazing place. I owe Arthur an apology
[2016-09-03 16:32:24] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: imagine how many customers you could have if traders didn't wrongly assume that your platform is a scam ;) transparency might the most powerful marketing tool if you make it a priority
[2016-09-03 16:33:11] BitMEX_Sam : lockhedge: I'll be honest, that's the least common complaint we get. It's usually more along the lines of confusion around how the contracts work and/or the interface.
[2016-09-03 16:35:18] willybot : BitMEX_Sam: I want to buy some of the exchange
[2016-09-03 16:36:50] willybot : there is no way this exchange just ticks along like this. Either everyone has other commitments and not full time or dont know the inner crypto scene
[2016-09-03 16:37:56] mjones : or bitmex is not shady like the other exchanges who do behind the scene deals to get whales to trade on their exchange
[2016-09-03 16:38:35] mjones : or maybe the whales rather hold the actual coin instead of trading it with BTC only
[2016-09-03 17:21:13] lockhedge : some (likely institutional) whales trades more than 30,000 btc within the last 24h on itBit and they didn't move the market
[2016-09-03 17:21:25] lockhedge : if this data is correct https://tradeblock.com/markets/itbt/xbt-usd/30m/
[2016-09-03 17:22:34] BitMEX_Sam : If real, likely off-market block trading
[2016-09-03 17:24:19] CaptainDean : missed the new ATH ! :P
[2016-09-03 17:27:15] CaptainDean : Any reason why i don't see my Liq price when i'm at 5X for XMR ? (Short or long)
[2016-09-03 17:28:07] CaptainDean : NaN
[2016-09-03 17:32:02] BitMEX_Greg : CaptainDean: Are you on cross margin?
[2016-09-03 17:37:42] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: they used to publish a report on OTC volumes every month (last update in May when they traded <20,000 within the whole month), don't know if OTC is included in their exchange stats https://www.itbit.com/blog/itbit-bitcoin-otc-market-recap-may-2016-infographic
[2016-09-03 17:38:57] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Greg: nope 5X
[2016-09-03 17:39:46] CaptainDean : i think it's my browser page
[2016-09-03 17:39:49] CaptainDean : reladoing a new one
[2016-09-03 17:40:47] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Greg: Ok i used two different windows, first one show the correct Liq Price, second one show NaN
[2016-09-03 17:41:08] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Greg: so it's matter of having multiple windows of Bitmex open at the same time
[2016-09-03 17:41:44] CaptainDean : loos like a small issue ;-)
[2016-09-03 17:41:57] BitMEX_Greg : What happens if you refresh the NaN window?
[2016-09-03 17:42:11] CaptainDean : it doesn't work, I use Chrome
[2016-09-03 17:42:21] CaptainDean : I opened a new one from the first, same result
[2016-09-03 17:45:00] CaptainDean : https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lk6mlrj6ze9od0/NaN.png?dl=0
[2016-09-03 17:45:26] CaptainDean : onw swc
[2016-09-03 17:46:30] BitMEX_Greg : Strange, I'll have Sam take a look
[2016-09-03 17:46:34] rapidtrades : you can't monero the moonero
[2016-09-03 17:46:36] CaptainDean : https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lk6mlrj6ze9od0/NaN2.png?dl=0
[2016-09-03 17:47:22] CaptainDean : both screen windows are showing XMR, but it can be whatever in the first, second will be NaN
[2016-09-03 17:50:25] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks !
[2016-09-03 17:50:45] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: did you close @ 265 ?
[2016-09-03 17:51:05] rapidtrades : no
[2016-09-03 17:51:26] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: I need to learn that patience from you ! :P
[2016-09-03 18:13:26] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks CaptainDean, this is fixed - simply refresh.
[2016-09-03 18:21:50] rapidtrades : CaptainDean: just a function of timeframes
[2016-09-03 18:22:03] rapidtrades : i trade longer-term
[2016-09-03 18:27:48] mjones : lol xmr
[2016-09-03 18:27:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1070 @ 0.022844
[2016-09-03 18:28:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.022385
[2016-09-03 18:28:44] mjones : that's why you dont FOMO long here
[2016-09-03 18:28:46] CaptainDean : BitMEX_Sam: my pleasure !
[2016-09-03 18:29:17] justinlooking : uh oh
[2016-09-03 18:29:40] CaptainDean : went for a shower
[2016-09-03 18:29:41] CaptainDean : BOOOOOOOOM
[2016-09-03 18:31:24] rapidtrades : wtf just happened
[2016-09-03 18:31:37] mjones : cheap coin army moving in
[2016-09-03 18:31:59] rapidtrades : wait was that crash on polo or just here
[2016-09-03 18:32:07] justinlooking : 20k mkt sell on polo
[2016-09-03 18:32:11] mjones : yeah
[2016-09-03 18:32:18] rapidtrades : well that's not good
[2016-09-03 18:32:21] Tetsuo : XMR on polo hacked and robbed?
[2016-09-03 18:32:28] Tetsuo : Bug in protocol found
[2016-09-03 18:32:34] rapidtrades : shut up Tetsuo
[2016-09-03 18:32:36] Tetsuo : Bug in protocol found!Hilllary Clinton steppin down on crypto criminals?
[2016-09-03 18:32:38] mjones : XMR making room for SDC
[2016-09-03 18:32:52] habibi : 85k morons
[2016-09-03 18:33:41] CaptainDean : i think i'm buying in
[2016-09-03 18:34:03] mjones : catch the falling knife. it hasnt fallen far enough
[2016-09-03 18:34:35] CaptainDean : 0.2 ?
[2016-09-03 18:34:52] CaptainDean : we had a lot of support @ 224 yesturday
[2016-09-03 18:34:53] mjones : 0.0186 is support
[2016-09-03 18:35:06] mjones : price here might hit 0.019
[2016-09-03 18:35:23] CaptainDean : mjones: 10-4, thanks you sir for you advice
[2016-09-03 18:35:26] CaptainDean : your**
[2016-09-03 18:35:54] rapidtrades : polo only fell to 217 not 200 like here
[2016-09-03 18:36:04] rapidtrades : at least that's what charts say
[2016-09-03 18:37:22] rapidtrades : scratch that, read trades wrong
[2016-09-03 18:38:25] CaptainDean : the chart is wrong ? I see also 2171
[2016-09-03 18:38:41] CaptainDean : or close to that
[2016-09-03 18:42:38] rapidtrades : yeah i read 0.22 as 0.2
[2016-09-03 18:53:59] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: stop foolin everyone!
[2016-09-03 19:22:22] Tetsuo : Rise & shine BTC& LTC my precious cocksucker coins!
[2016-09-03 19:22:46] mjones : fomo btc
[2016-09-03 19:23:01] mjones : never hit 50x long so hard in my life
[2016-09-03 19:23:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2224 @ 581.17
[2016-09-03 19:23:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 41662 @ 581.74 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-09-03 19:23:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 34559 @ 581.43 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-09-03 19:23:27] Tetsuo : baddabing
[2016-09-03 19:23:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 583.06
[2016-09-03 19:23:37] sleger : any news ?
[2016-09-03 19:23:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 28 @ 583.54
[2016-09-03 19:23:37] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-09-03 19:23:43] mjones : bbands mega tight
[2016-09-03 19:23:46] mjones : 2% movement all week
[2016-09-03 19:24:23] Tetsuo : i´m already up 3 BTC in profits on okc, halleluja!
[2016-09-03 19:24:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 587.68
[2016-09-03 19:24:58] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 219 @ 587.15
[2016-09-03 19:25:05] Tetsuo : premium on the quarterlys kicked in massively
[2016-09-03 19:25:17] Tetsuo : @625$ now
[2016-09-03 19:25:20] Tetsuo : lelelele
[2016-09-03 19:25:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 2138 @ 589.73
[2016-09-03 19:25:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 350 @ 589.85
[2016-09-03 19:25:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 590.73
[2016-09-03 19:25:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 6198 @ 590.68
[2016-09-03 19:26:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1700 @ 0.01981
[2016-09-03 19:26:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 845 @ 0.01985
[2016-09-03 19:26:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 191 @ 0.01979
[2016-09-03 19:26:58] mjones : lol hit 4200 on quarterly
[2016-09-03 19:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.01976
[2016-09-03 19:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 250 @ 0.01975
[2016-09-03 19:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 90 @ 0.01976
[2016-09-03 19:27:23] Tetsuo : mjones: u went also long on fututres a few hours ago didn´t you?
[2016-09-03 19:27:31] mjones : yeah
[2016-09-03 19:27:35] mjones : up over 100% on my long
[2016-09-03 19:27:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 567 @ 0.00650
[2016-09-03 19:27:47] mjones : everything going down
[2016-09-03 19:27:49] Tetsuo : mjones: excellent!
[2016-09-03 19:29:06] justinlooking : 607 finex wut
[2016-09-03 19:29:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.01943
[2016-09-03 19:30:12] mjones : 615 finex. shorts panic closing
[2016-09-03 19:30:24] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-09-03 19:30:31] Tetsuo : i´m also up 400 LTC, what a nice weekend!
[2016-09-03 19:30:52] Tetsuo : hookers and blow for my brothers in here
[2016-09-03 19:31:51] mjones : damn xmr 10x short from 0.026 would have been lovely
[2016-09-03 19:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 75 @ 0.019927
[2016-09-03 19:31:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 398 @ 0.019957
[2016-09-03 19:32:45] rapidtrades : why is mark at 591
[2016-09-03 19:33:24] justinlooking : bceause stamp still at 585
[2016-09-03 19:33:32] mjones : xmr longs screwed
[2016-09-03 19:33:38] rapidtrades : how is that posible
[2016-09-03 19:34:04] mjones : stamp is retarded
[2016-09-03 19:34:18] rapidtrades : china nearing 600 too
[2016-09-03 19:34:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.019316 :punch: :whale:
[2016-09-03 19:34:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: Sell 80 @ 0.019095
[2016-09-03 19:34:58] mjones : damn xmr short
[2016-09-03 19:35:12] mjones : did the wrong thing. shouldnt have longed btc
[2016-09-03 19:35:20] aethlios : told you BTC going uo hard, and xmr will dump when btc pumps.
[2016-09-03 19:35:37] Tetsuo : aethlios: : - )
[2016-09-03 19:35:45] Tetsuo : Death to all scamcoins!
[2016-09-03 19:36:03] aethlios : Tetsuo: we can buy back cheaoer.
[2016-09-03 19:36:32] Tetsuo : nah, i´m only tradin BTC&LTC in the next time
[2016-09-03 19:37:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1500 @ 0.002280
[2016-09-03 19:42:01] mjones : polo lag helping coins not collapse
[2016-09-03 19:42:26] aethlios : only stamp is very low.
[2016-09-03 19:42:46] Tetsuo : 50% aka 4000BTC left the buy side on XMR@ polo :-) this will end bad
[2016-09-03 19:42:49] habibi : power of " no more finex in our index ever " :D
[2016-09-03 19:43:06] CaptainDean : damm missed the boat @18670
[2016-09-03 19:43:08] mjones : stamp shouldnt be included in anything. shit exchange that cant fool us. we know they only have 3 traders
[2016-09-03 19:44:05] aethlios : btc to 800 in 2 days.
[2016-09-03 19:44:33] mjones : labor day merical
[2016-09-03 19:45:02] mjones : btc china = shit exchange too
[2016-09-03 19:45:58] rapidtrades : bitfinex $603.00
[2016-09-03 19:46:17] habibi : now u care about finex
[2016-09-03 19:46:17] rapidtrades : whales prolly got the whistle to get out
[2016-09-03 19:46:29] aethlios : if want a price of xmr, I say 0.0075, which is fib 23.6%, if btc goes above 800 this is very possible, all pumps retrace usually 75% of the move, but in usd will fall less.
[2016-09-03 19:46:30] mjones : bitfinex has 3,509 BTC in shorts
[2016-09-03 19:46:32] rapidtrades : or owners cashing out before being closed down
[2016-09-03 19:46:45] mjones : i would say almost all not in profit
[2016-09-03 19:47:10] aethlios : next leg pump 66o.
[2016-09-03 19:48:32] mjones : okcoin the only exchange that matters
[2016-09-03 19:52:49] mjones : xmr bouncing off support.
[2016-09-03 19:53:56] aethlios : when btc pumps, alts go to dog shit
[2016-09-03 19:54:35] mjones : after the alt got pumped 2x-6x of course
[2016-09-03 19:55:25] aethlios : forget sleep for a month or two.
[2016-09-03 19:55:30] rapidtrades : this looks like a fake out
[2016-09-03 19:56:21] rapidtrades : feels off
[2016-09-03 19:56:52] mjones : btc? pump 5% and eating the 4000 CNY supply
[2016-09-03 19:57:05] rapidtrades : what happened first...monero crash, china pump or bitfinex pump
[2016-09-03 19:57:47] rapidtrades : ฿7,907.83 bitfinex volume
[2016-09-03 19:57:52] rapidtrades : that's double from yday
[2016-09-03 19:57:55] mjones : xmr crash, china pump and bitfinex followed same time
[2016-09-03 19:57:57] rapidtrades : fishy
[2016-09-03 19:58:00] habibi : bitifnex started buying
[2016-09-03 19:58:06] rapidtrades : mjones: gee tnx
[2016-09-03 19:58:16] mjones : isnt rock science
[2016-09-03 19:58:32] rapidtrades : ur right it isn't rock science
[2016-09-03 19:58:35] rapidtrades : u dummy
[2016-09-03 19:58:40] mjones : lulz
[2016-09-03 19:59:38] rapidtrades : why is everything off
[2016-09-03 19:59:57] mjones : cause u smoking the good stuff
[2016-09-03 20:00:42] rapidtrades : bitfinex is the outlier here at 606
[2016-09-03 20:00:46] rapidtrades : china 600
[2016-09-03 20:00:47] mjones : BTC pumped 5% in 15 minutes and going sideways again.
[2016-09-03 20:00:52] rapidtrades : stamp below 590
[2016-09-03 20:01:02] mjones : cause hidden orders
[2016-09-03 20:01:08] mjones : gotta eat them all
[2016-09-03 20:02:55] mbaril : wow nice pump :p
[2016-09-03 20:02:59] mbaril : anyone know why ?
[2016-09-03 20:03:16] rapidtrades : bitfinex going doing? who knows
[2016-09-03 20:03:20] rapidtrades : high 615
[2016-09-03 20:03:26] rapidtrades : futures high 620
[2016-09-03 20:03:34] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: u scamcoin fool, go and buy some bitcoins and stop talking!
[2016-09-03 20:03:38] mjones : https://tradeblock.com/markets/itbt/xbt-usd/30m/
[2016-09-03 20:03:53] mjones : large buyer there spooked the market
[2016-09-03 20:04:08] rapidtrades : is that the OTC buy?
[2016-09-03 20:04:13] rapidtrades : didn't that happen hours ago
[2016-09-03 20:04:21] mjones : delay reaction in the markets
[2016-09-03 20:04:29] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2016-09-03 20:04:46] mjones : stamp is even slower to get the news
[2016-09-03 20:04:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4000 @ 595.48
[2016-09-03 20:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 7 @ 618.15
[2016-09-03 20:05:22] mjones : lol when is that going away
[2016-09-03 20:06:09] rapidtrades : itbit $585.00
[2016-09-03 20:06:20] Tetsuo : a few hours more or REKTS are upon us
[2016-09-03 20:06:34] aethlios : why itbit has such big volume? what is that itbit??
[2016-09-03 20:07:25] Tetsuo : Finex whales moved to Itbit
[2016-09-03 20:08:01] aethlios : new xmr dump now....
[2016-09-03 20:08:16] Tetsuo : Can´t wait for it!
[2016-09-03 20:08:39] Tetsuo : aethlios: u might be right with your 0.0075 Prediction
[2016-09-03 20:08:41] aethlios : Tetsuo: is it trusted?? americans?
[2016-09-03 20:09:14] Tetsuo : aethlios: as far as i know it´s licensed USA exchange, but not 100% sure, and too lazy too look up coz drunk as fukk
[2016-09-03 20:09:18] lockhedge : itbit volume has nothing to do with this pump and they have a completely different target group than bitfinex
[2016-09-03 20:09:28] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 9000 @ 597.98
[2016-09-03 20:09:47] CaptainDean : mxr buy side is back @ 4500 BTC
[2016-09-03 20:10:06] CaptainDean : XMR
[2016-09-03 20:10:24] Tetsuo : it was ~7000 somethin a few hours ago
[2016-09-03 20:10:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.002256
[2016-09-03 20:10:38] rapidtrades : idk this move feels off
[2016-09-03 20:10:48] CaptainDean : it was @ 4500 went we firt broke 0,187
[2016-09-03 20:10:55] d00ber : feels pretty good to me
[2016-09-03 20:10:59] CaptainDean : if I remember correctly
[2016-09-03 20:11:11] mjones : china whale did not like that attempt at a new high
[2016-09-03 20:11:14] rapidtrades : d00ber: thats cos ur an idiot
[2016-09-03 20:11:39] justinlooking : this move feels overdue
[2016-09-03 20:12:07] mjones : silly huobi bear whale
[2016-09-03 20:12:23] Bacon futures trader : Xmr illiquid af lol
[2016-09-03 20:18:36] rapidtrades : hmmm bitfinex still suspiciously high
[2016-09-03 20:18:53] lockhedge : and take a look at okc futures
[2016-09-03 20:20:58] rapidtrades : $605
[2016-09-03 20:21:51] rapidtrades : wtf are u doing again buttfinex...
[2016-09-03 20:24:01] rapidtrades : ok finex volume went up by 1.3k in 40 mins
[2016-09-03 20:24:08] rapidtrades : smth is wrong
[2016-09-03 20:24:24] rapidtrades : it's not 8.777
[2016-09-03 20:24:52] rapidtrades : ฿7,907.83 around 30 mins ago
[2016-09-03 20:25:13] rapidtrades : so almost 900 in 30 mins
[2016-09-03 20:25:40] rapidtrades : btce went up like 100-200
[2016-09-03 20:25:58] rapidtrades : can smone confirm?
[2016-09-03 20:28:31] justinlooking : polo berging
[2016-09-03 20:28:44] rapidtrades : u know how on TV there's two values for volume? which one shows amount of btc
[2016-09-03 20:29:16] mjones : btce going for new highs
[2016-09-03 20:30:18] mjones : yeah this is price recovering from Bitfinex fuck up. everyone that panic sold or get rekt in longs have been flushed out
[2016-09-03 20:30:52] mjones : + the 18 days of sideways shake out
[2016-09-03 20:31:32] rapidtrades : yeh, no
[2016-09-03 20:31:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: Buy 2500 @ 0.020661
[2016-09-03 20:31:43] rapidtrades : bitfinex is leading, this isn't good
[2016-09-03 20:32:25] rapidtrades : volume there is now more then double
[2016-09-03 20:32:28] mjones : we all know bitfinex has more USD than BTC
[2016-09-03 20:32:32] rapidtrades : fishies know smth
[2016-09-03 20:32:36] mjones : and idiots that short
[2016-09-03 20:34:33] rapidtrades : if u look at volume, the surge happened only on bitfinex
[2016-09-03 20:35:07] rapidtrades : on others we had very small increase
[2016-09-03 20:36:29] rapidtrades : look at that shit
[2016-09-03 20:36:31] mjones : i am not worried
[2016-09-03 20:36:35] rapidtrades : 3k volume in that hourly bar
[2016-09-03 20:36:43] mjones : just tight bbands with a breakout
[2016-09-03 20:36:50] rapidtrades : that's almost the entire volume from yday
[2016-09-03 20:37:01] rapidtrades : check out TV bitfinex
[2016-09-03 20:37:17] mjones : weekly volume on china exchanges were lowest in a year. this was going to happen
[2016-09-03 20:37:29] mjones : there was literally no movement all week
[2016-09-03 20:37:32] mjones : 2% max
[2016-09-03 20:38:01] mjones : bitfinex just had some more hidden orders get taken out along the way
[2016-09-03 20:38:33] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-09-03 20:38:53] rapidtrades : smone knows smth, im just waiting to hear the news now
[2016-09-03 20:39:27] rapidtrades : there was also some tokens dumping but volume there wasn't so outsized
[2016-09-03 20:39:57] rapidtrades : mjones: oh yeah and f*ck ur bollinger bands
[2016-09-03 20:40:52] Tetsuo : TLDR: rabidtrnny missed the pump
[2016-09-03 20:40:55] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: bolinger bands are the shit. They work well with BTC. The mans got a point
[2016-09-03 20:41:33] rapidtrades : price didn't move because of bolliger bands u twats
[2016-09-03 20:41:39] rapidtrades : smth is up at bitfinex
[2016-09-03 20:41:52] rapidtrades : they had an entire day's worth if volume during that pump
[2016-09-03 20:42:23] Tetsuo : no one cares about fuckfinex, it´s always the chinks and the technicals that are movin BTC
[2016-09-03 20:42:42] rapidtrades : guess we'll see soon
[2016-09-03 20:46:23] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: bbands himself commented on the tight bands regarding BTC earlier this week. He said if the tightening went on any longer without a move up, it wouldn't be worth a long.
[2016-09-03 20:48:39] Tetsuo : link for twitter account , plz
[2016-09-03 20:49:08] aethlios : epic bull btc move started.
[2016-09-03 20:49:44] mjones : it's usdwhales trapped on bitfinex trying to get out without jacking up the price
[2016-09-03 20:49:53] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: f*ck Bollinger
[2016-09-03 20:50:35] rapidtrades : and f*ck you for bringing him up
[2016-09-03 20:50:49] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/bbands/status/770642271075045376
[2016-09-03 20:50:51] rapidtrades : I'm telling u this is a bitfinex pump, not bitcoin pump
[2016-09-03 20:51:04] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: k
[2016-09-03 20:51:16] aethlios : rapidtrades: go back to sleep, china pumps, others follow.
[2016-09-03 20:51:44] rapidtrades : hint: if this is a bitfinex pump, it aint gonna last long
[2016-09-03 20:53:32] mjones : btc doesnt just randomly pump 5% and go back down after weeks of doing nothing
[2016-09-03 20:54:08] rapidtrades : ok i said what i wanted to say
[2016-09-03 20:54:13] rapidtrades : ur on ur own now
[2016-09-03 20:54:21] mjones : okay. see you at $620 all
[2016-09-03 20:54:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I've been watching and waiting for BTC pump, wondering why nobody is paying attention. As far as I'm concerned this is the start of a pump and hold above 600. Now that it's moved up to 600 all of a sudden people are paying attention. Finex can suck my cock. I don't care about them
[2016-09-03 20:54:46] aethlios : in 12 hours we hit 660, in 48 hours 800, then a small retrace to 750 and next days the march to ATH starts.
[2016-09-03 20:54:50] mjones : 4000 CNY is holding too
[2016-09-03 20:55:12] mjones : maybe aethlios has sources other than his gut
[2016-09-03 20:55:16] BTCDJS : aethlios: maybe not that quick
[2016-09-03 20:55:19] rapidtrades : aethlios: ur an idiot and Tetseo is ur brother