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[2016-08-19 11:15:44] Bittip : And how much profit I will get
[2016-08-19 11:16:27] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: If you sell at 572.74 then you will make 0.0000229 XBT in total
[2016-08-19 11:21:10] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: You were long 21200 contracts of XBTUSD and at 2016.08.19 04:00 UTC the funding rate was 0.1661% so you paid 0.061597 XBT funding
[2016-08-19 11:21:26] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: only shit profit
[2016-08-19 11:22:14] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: You only opened 20 contracts, that's a position worth 0.0352 Bitcoin
[2016-08-19 11:22:58] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: did I get 0.0352
[2016-08-19 11:24:14] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: No, you were long 0.0352 Bitcoin worth of XBT, and your profit was 0.06% of this
[2016-08-19 11:24:26] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: ok, thanks... just now find out funding happens every 8hours, not like rebalance once in 24hours..
[2016-08-19 11:24:36] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I saw u in rabbit u were on no. 1 but if this profit u must be on 99
[2016-08-19 11:25:23] Bittip : Some like u give grade deal
[2016-08-19 11:26:01] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: will u guide me how to make in atleast 0.01 in one bet
[2016-08-19 11:26:47] jesperf : Bittip: you have to buy more contracts to get more profit
[2016-08-19 11:27:16] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, you can use 50x leverage, i.e. trade a position 50 times bigger than the amount you deposited
[2016-08-19 11:27:16] jesperf : or wait for a bigger price movement before selling
[2016-08-19 11:27:58] Bittip : jesperf: and if time up then
[2016-08-19 11:29:16] jesperf : Bittip: I don't understand you. your english is crap and that's why you're having problems
[2016-08-19 11:29:54] Bittip : jesperf: may be u r right
[2016-08-19 11:30:36] Bittip : jesperf: my English is shit
[2016-08-19 11:31:56] jesperf : take your time, read the guides, get help from a friend who can translate for you
[2016-08-19 11:42:26] Bittip : jesperf: u now but I can make good profit in trading I creat a account in others trading and make 1 btc in 3 days
[2016-08-19 11:42:49] Bittip : jesperf: without any coin
[2016-08-19 11:43:24] Bittip : jesperf: they give me free for singup and I got my luck
[2016-08-19 11:44:01] jesperf : there are no free gifts here. just blood and tears.
[2016-08-19 11:44:41] Bittip : jesperf: ya really I got 0.005 free and I build my real account
[2016-08-19 11:44:55] Bittip : i mean 1 btc
[2016-08-19 11:46:00] Bittip : jesperf: hay what's here Xbt and xbt
[2016-08-19 11:50:58] rapidtrades : dam these tokens are some volatile shit
[2016-08-19 11:51:21] Boontjie : 10% up and down
[2016-08-19 11:51:24] Boontjie : up and down
[2016-08-19 11:51:44] Boontjie : and there is no liquidity to boot
[2016-08-19 11:51:47] rapidtrades : they went up like 20% now down 10%..around
[2016-08-19 11:52:09] rapidtrades : there's ok liquidity on buttfinex...not great but okay
[2016-08-19 11:52:42] Boontjie : I was thinking here
[2016-08-19 11:52:58] Boontjie : It is not a good idea to short this crap with crappy liquidity
[2016-08-19 11:54:01] rapidtrades : i should just sell these and get out while i can...it's validity will be dubious in any liquidation
[2016-08-19 11:54:28] rapidtrades : i doubt any court will recognize them as a valid debt instrument
[2016-08-19 12:01:12] rapidtrades : BFXUSD now on trading view btw
[2016-08-19 12:03:20] Bittip : any one guide mxbt 0.023 = Xbt how much
[2016-08-19 12:06:14] rapidtrades : Bittip: https://translate.google.com/
[2016-08-19 12:06:38] rapidtrades : type in ur local language
[2016-08-19 12:07:04] rapidtrades : btw if ur chinese, there's one support guy who speaks ur lang but he's not here atm
[2016-08-19 12:23:21] nip : Bittip: 0.000023 XBT
[2016-08-19 12:31:26] palgba : this 7d etc settlement makes me want to trow up
[2016-08-19 12:32:10] palgba : when is the perpetual swapfor etc like eth does
[2016-08-19 14:06:06] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: "BitMEX_Wally: premjeraz: You were long 21200 contracts of XBTUSD and at 2016.08.19 04:00 UTC the funding rate was 0.1661% so you paid 0.061597 XBT funding" but in https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees says long funding is -0.0214%, so why is such different rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:07:31] premjeraz : Today, longs will receive 0.0214%, and shorts will pay 0.0214%
[2016-08-19 14:09:32] BitMEX_Arthur : premjeraz: The funding rate changes every 8 hours
[2016-08-19 14:10:38] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-19 14:10:45] premjeraz : so how i can know what rates is now short/long ? and what i going to be later ?
[2016-08-19 14:12:15] BitMEX_Arthur : Under Contract Details, we tell you the current funding to be charged in X hours time, X is the amount of time between now and the next funding time which is every 8 hours, and the predicted funding to be charged in X + 8 hours time
[2016-08-19 14:13:55] premjeraz : in that funding history shows funding rate = long position rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:14:43] premjeraz : and short is opposite ? like is now 0.11 long, then short is -0.11
[2016-08-19 14:15:05] BitMEX_Arthur : +ve rate means longs pay shorts, -ve rate means shorts pay longs
[2016-08-19 14:16:08] premjeraz : but in tagt result list is all +, so where is short history table ?
[2016-08-19 14:16:23] premjeraz : aaa ok
[2016-08-19 14:18:57] premjeraz : and ho i can find ongoing rates ?
[2016-08-19 14:20:45] premjeraz : 2016-08-19 13:00:00 XBTUSD every 8 hours 0.0731% 0.2193%
[2016-08-19 14:21:07] premjeraz : this current rate or it previous interval ?
[2016-08-19 14:23:56] BitMEX_Greg : If you look at the trading dashboard, then under "Contract Details" it has some details for XBTUSD
[2016-08-19 14:24:02] BitMEX_Greg : One of those details is "Funding"
[2016-08-19 14:24:14] BitMEX_Greg : Right now the funding is -0.0214% in 6 hours
[2016-08-19 14:24:30] BitMEX_Greg : that will be charge in 6 hours on any current positions at that time
[2016-08-19 14:25:13] BitMEX_Greg : If you hover over it, you will see the predicted funding rate for the 8 hour interval starting after the current period. (Predicted to be -0.0065%)
[2016-08-19 14:28:31] premjeraz : but this 0.0214% from fees site
[2016-08-19 14:29:22] premjeraz : this funding stuff is so confusing, looks like u cant predict how you going be charged after funding interval
[2016-08-19 14:30:19] premjeraz : coz everywhere its shows rates from https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-08-19 14:30:26] premjeraz : not a real rates
[2016-08-19 14:30:46] BitMEX_Greg : Fees are different to funding charges
[2016-08-19 14:31:15] BitMEX_Greg : And we show you the funding in advance so you know exactly how much you will be charged funding
[2016-08-19 14:35:14] premjeraz : where is that in advance ?
[2016-08-19 14:35:54] premjeraz : in that hisoty last one is current one? or for previous interval ?
[2016-08-19 14:36:15] BitMEX_Greg : We show you on the trading dashboard what the funding will be
[2016-08-19 14:36:32] BitMEX_Greg : The funding charge will be -0.0214% in 5 hours time
[2016-08-19 14:37:27] premjeraz : but this one like from tha fees page, why all previous wasnt like that?
[2016-08-19 14:38:05] premjeraz : sorry, everything so confusing here... nice trading platform, but is not easy to count risk on funding fees
[2016-08-19 14:39:30] premjeraz : all this from contract details are like basic
[2016-08-19 14:39:33] premjeraz : Series Leverage Maker Fee Taker Fee Long Funding Short Funding Funding Interval Bitcoin (XBT) 50x -0.025% 0.075% -0.0214% 0.0214% Every 8 hours Ethereum (ETH) 33x -0.025% 0.075% 0.0091% -0.0091% Every 8 hours Litecoin (LTC) 25x -0.025% 0.075% 0.0034% -0.0034% Every 8 hours Lisk (LSK) 3.33x -0.025% 0.075% 0.0152% -0.0152% Every 8 hours Factom (FCT) 10x -0.025% 0.075% 0.1189% -0.1189% Every 8 hours
[2016-08-19 14:39:39] premjeraz : all this data
[2016-08-19 14:39:58] premjeraz : but when u look in to history there was no rate like this
[2016-08-19 14:42:54] BitMEX_Greg : Did you have positions on all those derivatives?
[2016-08-19 14:42:59] BitMEX_Greg : If not then it won't show up in your history
[2016-08-19 14:44:28] premjeraz : i have open position and im not sure how im going be charged, coz two last charges was like suprise for me.. my mistake
[2016-08-19 14:47:16] premjeraz : but here is different than is contract details... like i sure there was this -0.0214% on XBTUSD, but i was charged 0.16% , that i want to know.. how we can know current rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:49:01] BitMEX_Greg : Ok so lets say you have a long position now of 100 BTC on. The funding is FIXED, which means in 5 hours now, you will be charges -0.0214% funding on the 100 BTC position, assuming the size of your position doesn't change between now and then. Given the rate is negative, you will actually RECEIVE funding of 0.0214%. That is 0.0214% * 100 BTC = 0.0214 BTC you will receive
[2016-08-19 14:49:40] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: The CURRENT rate is -0.0214%.
[2016-08-19 14:49:48] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: You can see PAST rates here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-19 14:53:24] premjeraz : in that funding history shows funding rate = long position rate ?
[2016-08-19 14:53:45] premjeraz : i think we both talking about different things..
[2016-08-19 14:57:19] premjeraz : things is... now i have short position, where i was charged bigger % then shows in fee site and after another funding interval im going be charged.. but i dont know how much? coz could happen like was with XBTUSD last night on the site shows -0.0214%, but real charge was 0.1661% ..
[2016-08-19 14:59:47] nip : how often does BFX rebalance and release withheld profit?
[2016-08-19 15:01:48] macios15 : btc pump in the air
[2016-08-19 15:04:13] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: -0.0214% is the charge that is going to happen in 5 hours. It hasn't happened yet.
[2016-08-19 15:07:27] premjeraz : i know that
[2016-08-19 15:12:37] BitMEX_Greg : You were saying you don't know how much you are going to get charged
[2016-08-19 15:20:10] premjeraz : im saying because this rate at contrat detail are not represent real charge... like i sai there shows funding -0.0214, but i was charged -.01661%
[2016-08-19 15:20:50] premjeraz : . -0.1661%
[2016-08-19 15:21:56] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: Take a look at the funding history
[2016-08-19 15:22:04] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-19 15:22:26] BitMEX_Greg : insert this `{"symbol":"XBTUSD"}` into the search box
[2016-08-19 15:23:03] BitMEX_Greg : 0.1661% was the funding rate at Timestamp 2016-08-19 00:00:00
[2016-08-19 15:23:23] BitMEX_Greg : Like i said, the rates are there for people to determine in ADVANCE.
[2016-08-19 15:23:58] BitMEX_Greg : You must have looked at the wrong number. Right now the charge will be -0.0214% in about 4.5 hours time
[2016-08-19 15:24:08] premjeraz : yes, i see that. but what im tryng to say, this one in contract detail is always -.0.0214% but when come to charge all time is defferent
[2016-08-19 15:24:17] BitMEX_Greg : No
[2016-08-19 15:24:21] BitMEX_Greg : It's not
[2016-08-19 15:24:25] BitMEX_Greg : You are mistaken
[2016-08-19 15:24:58] premjeraz : like its was with FCT, there ws showing 0.1189% in that, but real was sometingin 0.16xx%
[2016-08-19 15:26:29] premjeraz : ok. whatever... i see there trading in this platform not for me
[2016-08-19 15:26:35] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: I think you are confusing rates that happened several intervals prior to what is happening now.
[2016-08-19 15:27:30] BitMEX_Greg : This can be a slightly different concept to buying and selling spot, but with a few different elements
[2016-08-19 15:27:46] BitMEX_Greg : We have very thorough trading guides that we encourage everyone to read through prior to trading here
[2016-08-19 15:29:09] BitMEX_Greg : We have made the platform to be as simple and upfront for every user to see their total costs prior to submitting trades.
[2016-08-19 15:29:37] premjeraz : thanks
[2016-08-19 15:29:58] BitMEX_Greg : The difficulty you are experiencing is a matter of understanding, Take a read over the Swaps Guide first (https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide)
[2016-08-19 15:43:13] premjeraz : BitMEX_Greg: u here ?
[2016-08-19 15:43:25] premjeraz : a have another question
[2016-08-19 15:46:30] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: Yep am here, shoot
[2016-08-19 15:49:36] premjeraz : i shorted 2400 @ FCT contracts few mins before funding charge and was charged -0.1492 XBT
[2016-08-19 15:50:23] premjeraz : but
[2016-08-19 15:50:25] premjeraz : 2016-08-19 13:00:00 FCTXBT every 8 hours 0.1711%
[2016-08-19 15:51:59] Spofas : where dem ETC margin called shorts at?
[2016-08-19 15:52:16] premjeraz : 9 XBT * 0.1711% = ~0.016 XBT, not ~0.15 what i missed ?
[2016-08-19 15:54:58] BitMEX_Greg : what time did you short
[2016-08-19 15:56:49] BitMEX_Wally : You earnt 0.0156906 XBT from the funding
[2016-08-19 15:57:32] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: Have a look at the trade history for `Funding` https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-19 15:57:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8179 @ 567.05
[2016-08-19 15:57:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7736 @ 566.66
[2016-08-19 15:57:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3 @ 566.09 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-19 15:57:45] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 18360 @ 566.36
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 932 @ 563.93
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 563.95
[2016-08-19 15:57:53] macios15 : wtf
[2016-08-19 15:58:28] macios15 : what the fuck was that
[2016-08-19 16:01:15] macios15 : when kaiko adds bitfinex, this is some joke
[2016-08-19 16:02:14] premjeraz : BitMEX_Greg: 2016-08-19 12:55:16
[2016-08-19 16:02:47] BitMEX_Greg : premjeraz: yes mate?
[2016-08-19 16:03:19] premjeraz : BitMEX_Greg: there is timewhen i shorted
[2016-08-19 16:03:37] BitMEX_Greg : Take a look at your Trading History: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-19 16:04:07] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: if got from funding, what is that ? 2016-08-19 13:00:00 CashRebalance -0.1492 XBT -.-- FCTXBT Completed
[2016-08-19 16:04:09] BitMEX_Greg : You would have earnt funding as per Wally's msg earlier
[2016-08-19 16:04:52] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: That is your total PNL for the 24 hour period
[2016-08-19 16:05:28] BitMEX_Wally : The previous period, before the funding you're talking about
[2016-08-19 16:06:01] BitMEX_Wally : That's the PNL between your entry price and the rebalance price of 0.003821
[2016-08-19 16:06:52] BitMEX_Wally : Then the next rebalance (the pending one) is the PNL between 0.003821 and your exit price, or the current mark price
[2016-08-19 16:06:53] premjeraz : but that ws complited, but my FCT position wasnt closed
[2016-08-19 16:07:10] BitMEX_Wally : Correct, the position was not closed, but the profit and loss was realised and paid into your wallet
[2016-08-19 16:07:14] premjeraz : so i didnt lost that 0.16 XBT on funding ?
[2016-08-19 16:08:53] BitMEX_Wally : That funding of -0.0156906 has been paid to you and is included in the pending rebalance
[2016-08-19 16:09:35] BitMEX_Wally : Plus/minus any trading fees or realised PNL
[2016-08-19 16:09:44] BitMEX_Wally : Since the rebalance
[2016-08-19 16:10:42] premjeraz : ok, thank you.... now almost got it :) that rebalancing is mixed up everything
[2016-08-19 16:14:14] premjeraz : all this mixup/not knowing cost me 0.2btc :D was worse... i think good i didnt lost more
[2016-08-19 16:33:34] macios15 : delist bitstamp from index this is bullshit
[2016-08-19 16:35:12] I-am-Legend : hello
[2016-08-19 16:35:36] I-am-Legend : i just opened a trade why is it showing over 2btc profit in realized profits
[2016-08-19 16:41:05] I-am-Legend : new trade
[2016-08-19 16:41:19] I-am-Legend : is it showing profits from trade a week ago
[2016-08-19 16:50:12] BitMEX_Greg : Yes it shows the PNL you have accrued since inception
[2016-08-19 16:50:24] BitMEX_Greg : Hover over the figure and it will show you the PNL since the last rebalance
[2016-08-19 16:52:23] macios15 : BitMEX_Greg: i got liquidation, but index never hit that price
[2016-08-19 16:54:03] BitMEX_Greg : macios15: The price you see is your bankruptcy price
[2016-08-19 16:54:23] BitMEX_Greg : add back the initial margin and it will be somewhere in the lines of your liquidation price
[2016-08-19 16:54:50] nip : macios15: working as intended
[2016-08-19 16:57:41] macios15 : my liq price was 566.66 the index price wasnt lower than 566.85 basing the graph
[2016-08-19 16:57:57] BitMEX_Greg : Are you looking at the Mark Price or last traded price?
[2016-08-19 16:58:01] BitMEX_Greg : Liquidations are based on Mark Price
[2016-08-19 16:58:41] macios15 : .XBT line on graph purple one
[2016-08-19 16:59:41] macios15 : is there any mark price history other than graph?
[2016-08-19 17:00:01] BitMEX_Wally : .XBT only records the index price every minute, the Kaiko index dropped to 566.48 at 2016.08.19D15:57:36 UTC
[2016-08-19 17:01:05] BitMEX_Wally : We are working on exposing more price history
[2016-08-19 17:01:33] macios15 : work on delisting bitstamp
[2016-08-19 17:03:49] BitMEX_Greg : macios15: We are working to add more constituents to the index to replace bitfinex, what other exchanges do you recommend?
[2016-08-19 17:05:55] macios15 : huobi conversed to usd
[2016-08-19 17:06:46] nip : macios15: because that doesnt have price spikes...
[2016-08-19 17:06:58] nip : and its down all the time
[2016-08-19 17:07:32] macios15 : if sb sell 1k btc on stamp price is dumped to 540
[2016-08-19 17:08:31] macios15 : and thats 50% of our index lol
[2016-08-19 17:14:32] I-am-Legend : i dont get it why would your realized pl be visible a week after u closed that trade on your new trade
[2016-08-19 17:14:34] I-am-Legend : what is the point
[2016-08-19 17:14:52] I-am-Legend : i started a fresh trade a week later want to see my realized pl on this trade
[2016-08-19 17:15:38] I-am-Legend : would really appreciate a mod checking my eth position out, maybe something wrong with numbers
[2016-08-19 17:15:52] magneto : Hey mods, there were market orders executed yesterday that I didn't initialize. How can that happen?
[2016-08-19 17:17:17] BitMEX_Wally : I-am-Legend: Your position you opened today has realised PNL of -0.013666
[2016-08-19 17:18:01] BitMEX_Wally : From taker fees
[2016-08-19 17:18:11] I-am-Legend : i understood that wally but why is it showing the 2btc realized profit from last trade
[2016-08-19 17:18:22] I-am-Legend : u only see - if you hover on it
[2016-08-19 17:18:35] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, at the moment we show cumulative realised PNL for the life of the contract
[2016-08-19 17:18:42] BitMEX_Wally : Not just since you had a position open
[2016-08-19 17:20:43] BitMEX_Wally : magneto: I see 2 market orders yesterday for ETC7D and they both were filled
[2016-08-19 17:21:08] magneto : Yes, and I didn't order that. Is there an explanation for it?
[2016-08-19 17:21:24] BitMEX_Wally : Let me check the logs
[2016-08-19 17:21:30] magneto : Thanks!
[2016-08-19 17:24:03] BitMEX_Wally : Looks like they came from your IP address.
[2016-08-19 17:24:15] BitMEX_Wally : Leverage was adjusted from 5x to 4x and then 2 market orders were submitted
[2016-08-19 17:25:39] BitMEX_Wally : magneto: I can email you the logs
[2016-08-19 17:26:01] BitMEX_Wally : Would you like me to suspend your account while we investigate?
[2016-08-19 17:27:48] BitMEX_Wally : `2016-08-18T18:08:05.859Z 188.xx.xx.xx (Firefox 47, Windows) (xxx/xxxxxx@gmx.de) - "POST /api/v1/order {"symbol":"ETC7D","orderQty":135,"price":null,"ordType":"Market","execInst":"","text":"Submission from www.bitmex.com"}"`
[2016-08-19 17:28:39] magneto : Yes, but now they are closed right? I don't see them in my positions, altough I only went long without closing...
[2016-08-19 17:29:02] magneto : And it wasn't near liq. price. That's what I don't get.
[2016-08-19 17:29:55] BitMEX_Wally : These market orders opened a 136 contract long position
[2016-08-19 17:30:08] BitMEX_Wally : And then ETC7D settled, so the position was closed
[2016-08-19 17:30:24] BitMEX_Wally : It was not liquidated
[2016-08-19 17:30:37] magneto : ah ok. get it thanks.
[2016-08-19 17:31:16] BitMEX_Wally : In your trade history you can see execType of `Settlement` which closed the position
[2016-08-19 17:31:30] magneto : So they get liquidatet always same day of the ewwk same time?
[2016-08-19 17:31:49] justinlooking : not exactly liquidated, settled
[2016-08-19 17:31:51] BitMEX_Wally : ETC7D settles every Friday at 12:00 UTC at the price of ETC on Poloniex
[2016-08-19 17:32:00] BitMEX_Wally : All longs and all shorts are closed at the same price
[2016-08-19 17:32:08] magneto : ok, thanks!
[2016-08-19 17:32:11] BitMEX_Wally : Trade history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-19 17:48:47] zanza : rapidtrades did you finish your Class action lawsuit yet ?
[2016-08-19 18:00:47] zanza : early bird gets the worm.
[2016-08-19 18:14:52] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Hey Wally: I'm trying to understand the fee structure. I've been playing around with passive orders (i.e. being a maker in all of them), but I don't see a fee rebate. In stead I pay taker fee every time. Do I have to do something special to qualify for maker rebates?
[2016-08-19 18:16:06] Rado : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: you don't
[2016-08-19 18:16:15] BitMEX_Wally : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: Let me have a look
[2016-08-19 18:16:34] Rado : to make sure you are a maker you can click post-only checkbox
[2016-08-19 18:16:47] Rado : also a stop order will always have a taker fee
[2016-08-19 18:17:28] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: change his nick name please :-)
[2016-08-19 18:17:47] Rado : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: Maybe give support a better nick name?
[2016-08-19 18:20:22] BitMEX_Wally : seafvasvsdvasvasdv: Ok I see the problem. You had too many small (i..e less than 0.01 XBT) orders open which were spamming the order book, so they got made hidden (i.e. displayQty of 0) and hidden orders do not get the maker rebate
[2016-08-19 18:20:37] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Awesome thanks
[2016-08-19 18:20:51] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : (And sorry, I was testing)
[2016-08-19 18:20:58] BitMEX_Wally : No problem, I have reset your account
[2016-08-19 18:21:07] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : What's the minimally qualifying number?
[2016-08-19 18:21:11] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : 0.01 BTC?
[2016-08-19 18:21:17] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, 10 contracts or more is fine
[2016-08-19 18:21:21] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Awesome
[2016-08-19 18:21:23] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Thanks for the info
[2016-08-19 18:21:34] BitMEX_Wally : You can test in testnet but it has the same spam protection :)
[2016-08-19 18:22:10] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : One more q: How do I change my nickname to something more typable?
[2016-08-19 18:22:18] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : (As the guys were complaining about earlier)
[2016-08-19 18:22:25] BitMEX_Wally : Haha what would you like it changed to?
[2016-08-19 18:22:35] seafvasvsdvasvasdv : Let's do 'BetterNick'
[2016-08-19 18:22:43] BitMEX_Wally : Done
[2016-08-19 18:22:44] BitMEX_Wally : Refresh
[2016-08-19 18:22:49] BetterNick : Much appreciated
[2016-08-19 18:22:57] BetterNick : Have a good day
[2016-08-19 18:23:05] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2016-08-19 20:09:54] zanza : i kind of liked seafvasvsdvasvasdv
[2016-08-19 20:10:00] zanza : but BetterNick works
[2016-08-19 21:03:49] zanza : how come ETH is down to 18 again ?
[2016-08-19 21:04:49] rapidtrades : hey anyone keeping track of how much BTC buttfinex has left?
[2016-08-19 21:07:47] rapidtrades : that's importatnt info FFS
[2016-08-19 21:08:19] rapidtrades : just give me the address i'll f*cking watch it
[2016-08-19 21:12:14] rapidtrades : guys over at bitcoinmarkets saying that ETF decision is coming up these days, deadline monday
[2016-08-19 21:12:38] rapidtrades : they're prolly gonna delay it with all the negative press around buttfinex
[2016-08-19 21:40:10] Tetsuo : Winklevoss ETF?
[2016-08-19 21:43:20] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-08-19 22:10:50] rapidtrades : who's keeping tabs on buttfinex addresses? last time i ask, i'll bookmark it
[2016-08-19 23:15:41] billyboy402 : Bitfinex
[2016-08-19 23:16:14] billyboy402 : i thought chat wast changing to butfinx like okc
[2016-08-19 23:19:52] miramm1115 : big iceberg sell @ 572.45
[2016-08-19 23:21:20] rapidtrades : nice catch
[2016-08-19 23:24:43] miramm1115 : not so big, 27k plus change
[2016-08-19 23:24:56] habibi : u mean hidden order?
[2016-08-19 23:25:06] justinlooking : yup
[2016-08-19 23:25:19] miramm1115 : hidden with 500 visible, so iceberg
[2016-08-19 23:32:20] justinlooking : green sells and red buys
[2016-08-19 23:32:25] justinlooking : grrr
[2016-08-19 23:46:50] jung1 : hi
[2016-08-19 23:47:07] jung1 : did you saw that mcxNOW is online again?
[2016-08-19 23:47:08] jung1 : https://beta.rawx.io
[2016-08-20 01:02:40] pigeons : i guess realsolid thought if people came back to bitfinex, they will come back to him
[2016-08-20 01:04:14] pigeons : assuming its him, i dont know why anyone else would want his baggage and name
[2016-08-20 01:22:45] jung1 : yeah
[2016-08-20 01:23:02] jung1 : but mcxNOW had really goo engine as a exchange
[2016-08-20 01:24:57] jung1 : mcxShares are worth now around 0.06btc
[2016-08-20 01:25:10] jung1 : if anyone still hold them
[2016-08-20 01:25:40] pigeons : people would trade on mtgox if they reopened
[2016-08-20 01:28:24] jung1 : thats called natural selection
[2016-08-20 02:36:40] Thedude : anyone from support around?
[2016-08-20 02:38:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 80 @ 0.01921
[2016-08-20 03:26:59] zanza : https://medium.com/@BlockByBlock/the-ugly-truth-behind-steemit-1a525f5e156#.ac6khxg7e
[2016-08-20 03:31:08] jung1 : steem is kinda cool
[2016-08-20 03:31:21] jung1 : will see if it will work
[2016-08-20 04:36:17] laisee : I made 9,900 dollars last ,month working from home ... On Steem :-)
[2016-08-20 04:37:50] miramm1115 : laisee: I made about the same working from home, on Steam :-)
[2016-08-20 07:10:23] Rado : 50% bitstamp is too much on here
[2016-08-20 07:11:03] Rado : The price moves a lot there with just a few hundred btc
[2016-08-20 07:11:25] Rado : Now I can't use stop orders here
[2016-08-20 07:11:58] Rado : BitMex I hope you will add another exchange soon
[2016-08-20 08:48:16] macios15 : rekt incoming
[2016-08-20 09:12:34] rapidtrades : Rado: i think prices here are more volatile then bitstamp
[2016-08-20 09:12:53] rapidtrades : i don't use stops here for that reason
[2016-08-20 09:14:01] rapidtrades : a third exchange may not be a bad idea cos it would smooth out the index more...how about btce?
[2016-08-20 09:14:37] rapidtrades : it has double the volume of okc usd
[2016-08-20 09:14:57] billyboy402 : when there a margin call , is it a close market price once the index price , or is it trigger at index price and close at index price
[2016-08-20 09:15:56] rapidtrades : i think trigger mark price, close on market
[2016-08-20 09:16:41] rapidtrades : mark price is kind of tied with the index
[2016-08-20 09:17:35] justinlooking : mfw rapid suggests putin for index
[2016-08-20 09:20:00] rapidtrades : is itbit americans only
[2016-08-20 09:20:08] justinlooking : do u even: https://imgur.com/a/M6drT
[2016-08-20 09:20:16] rapidtrades : they seem to top volume atm....kinda switching with btce
[2016-08-20 09:20:37] habibi : coz of no fees u dummie
[2016-08-20 09:20:53] rapidtrades : habibi: it's dummy u dummie
[2016-08-20 09:21:10] habibi : dummie suits u better
[2016-08-20 09:22:36] rapidtrades : habibi: to you, cos you're ignorant
[2016-08-20 09:25:29] habibi : check ur msgs since last century and reconsider who is ignorant :)
[2016-08-20 09:26:39] rapidtrades : 0.2 taker 0 maker on itbit
[2016-08-20 09:27:29] rapidtrades : don't think there's margin, so can't see myself trading there
[2016-08-20 09:27:42] rapidtrades : one buttfinexing is enough
[2016-08-20 09:27:58] justinlooking : itbit works in uk, and accept SEP
[2016-08-20 09:28:02] justinlooking : *SEPA
[2016-08-20 09:28:09] justinlooking : in eur
[2016-08-20 09:28:32] justinlooking : deposit/withdraw fees: https://support.itbit.com/customer/portal/articles/1798218-non-us-customer-deposit-withdrawal-bank-fees
[2016-08-20 09:28:36] rapidtrades : cool that's cheap
[2016-08-20 09:28:52] rapidtrades : maybe i can use it as in/out
[2016-08-20 09:30:10] rapidtrades : their SEPA fees are much higher then stamp?
[2016-08-20 09:32:38] rapidtrades : u also need to submit docs before u can trade but i don't see a restricted countries list, so should be open to most
[2016-08-20 09:33:25] justinlooking : stamp don't have xbteur
[2016-08-20 09:33:47] justinlooking : so fx u at their "bank's rate"
[2016-08-20 09:34:08] rapidtrades : no they added it
[2016-08-20 09:34:57] justinlooking : oh sorry
[2016-08-20 09:36:27] rapidtrades : well at least these two don't ask for 4-5 different docs or a skype call like shitfinex
[2016-08-20 09:37:00] rapidtrades : they really didn't want to deal with banks over there
[2016-08-20 10:03:59] rapidtrades : i think tokens holders won't get preferential treatment in any liquidation...and i don't think any investors will touch bitfinex with some many legal challengess
[2016-08-20 10:05:05] Pilot : Yo
[2016-08-20 10:05:07] rapidtrades : current price very generous from a value perspective although technically it's mixed...neither up or down
[2016-08-20 10:05:40] rapidtrades : i sold mine
[2016-08-20 10:11:32] rapidtrades : "regulators were fully apprised of the capital shortfall and, within hours of the SNB Event, the CFTC and the NFA were on site at FXCM's offices"
[2016-08-20 10:11:51] rapidtrades : guess there are some benefits to regulation
[2016-08-20 10:27:48] rapidtrades : it's one of those times when I talk to myself
[2016-08-20 10:28:31] rapidtrades : that's the best time to be in this chat
[2016-08-20 10:28:45] rapidtrades : i literally shit out gold....you're welcome
[2016-08-20 10:37:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 607 @ 0.002948
[2016-08-20 10:39:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.002933 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-20 10:39:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.002936
[2016-08-20 11:55:49] Rado : rapidtrades: BTCE is fine
[2016-08-20 11:56:31] Rado : sny exchange will be better than just bitstamp and okc
[2016-08-20 12:00:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1550 @ 580.05
[2016-08-20 12:32:07] rapidtrades : Rado: one problem with btce is prices there can diverge quite a bit
[2016-08-20 12:33:21] rapidtrades : during the two rallies oct last year june this year it lagged by $50 at times
[2016-08-20 12:52:44] justinlooking : any interest in a bitmex mm bot chrome extension?
[2016-08-20 12:53:30] rapidtrades : justinlooking: depends on the price and what will it do
[2016-08-20 12:55:38] VenCap : BitMex Devs, you seriously need to rethink this 24hr holding of withdraws.
[2016-08-20 12:55:50] VenCap : your site will never get popular with this current system.
[2016-08-20 12:55:51] rapidtrades : VenCap: how about NO
[2016-08-20 12:56:23] VenCap : i like the site overall. but i am going to stop trading here, due to the length of time it takes for withdraws.
[2016-08-20 12:56:49] rapidtrades : the worst case is 24h...average is 12h
[2016-08-20 12:56:50] VenCap : this is the main reason, vol here is very low and the site is made up of 90% bot volume.
[2016-08-20 12:57:04] rapidtrades : 90% bots is everywhere
[2016-08-20 12:57:05] VenCap : just saying ,good site, bad withdraw process.
[2016-08-20 12:57:28] VenCap : everywhere else people get withdraws much sooner and margin payments there and then.
[2016-08-20 12:57:45] rapidtrades : ok i don't see why it matters...it's just 24h just plan accordingly
[2016-08-20 12:58:22] VenCap : if it was different this site would have more customers and more people stay here
[2016-08-20 12:58:50] rapidtrades : i just don't see why that issue alone makes the difference between leaving and staying
[2016-08-20 12:59:05] VenCap : thats why this place is dead of real traders.
[2016-08-20 12:59:08] VenCap : anyhow
[2016-08-20 12:59:16] rapidtrades : ok then...
[2016-08-20 12:59:17] VenCap : have a good weekend. ive said what i wanted to.
[2016-08-20 13:03:02] justinlooking : rapidtrades: it is v similar in functionality to the python mm bot on bitmex
[2016-08-20 13:04:20] justinlooking : 'cept it allows u to tweak all size/price bias/distance/step/step distance/position limits params via gui
[2016-08-20 13:10:28] rapidtrades : sounds good if it works well
[2016-08-20 13:10:35] rapidtrades : what do u plan to sell it for
[2016-08-20 13:13:39] justinlooking : no plans to sell it
[2016-08-20 13:15:04] justinlooking : it has no documentation, no warranty of any kind... i guess could take donations
[2016-08-20 13:16:37] dakk : hi
[2016-08-20 13:17:00] justinlooking : yo dakk
[2016-08-20 13:18:51] miramm1115 : justinlooking: you can always run it yourself if it's profitable. why would you sell it or give it a way if it's profitable?
[2016-08-20 13:20:04] justinlooking : miramm1115: it's just a basic mm atm
[2016-08-20 13:20:32] justinlooking : if market is ranging you'll do okay i would think
[2016-08-20 13:20:53] justinlooking : but a big move and bad risk management you'll get owned
[2016-08-20 13:21:06] justinlooking : more toolkit than actual bot
[2016-08-20 13:21:54] miramm1115 : yeah, if the strategy is the same as in BitMEX sample MM you don't want to run it as is
[2016-08-20 13:22:39] justinlooking : indeed, there are still many more things i'd like to add
[2016-08-20 13:33:19] justinlooking : should prolly get bitmex's permission first before distributing, if only to give deadsup for any mad shit that might go down. i know rate limits, but still..
[2016-08-20 13:33:30] justinlooking : *headsup
[2016-08-20 13:57:02] JH : why don't more people trade here?
[2016-08-20 13:57:16] JH : I've been boned a couple times because of low volume..
[2016-08-20 13:57:51] BitMEX_Sam : Honestly I think we're just seeing a small summer slump
[2016-08-20 13:58:10] BitMEX_Sam : When prices start moving again the books fill up
[2016-08-20 13:58:31] Thedude : BitMEX_Sam: I think its the funding scheme for alts, just to dangerous to trade when fudning often go's up to 0,5/1% a day
[2016-08-20 13:59:40] BitMEX_Sam : The swaps on alts actually trade more than the 7D futs used to - but we are considering more 7D futs on some
[2016-08-20 14:01:15] sleger : i agree with the dude, the funding rates on alts are broken, completely random and unpredictable
[2016-08-20 14:01:29] Thedude : BitMEX_Sam: I dont know I came back here after a few months of non trading. What used to be predictable affordable funding rates seem to have changed into insane highly volatile funding rates. Feels like trading the alts has become more about trading the funding rates then the actual price.
[2016-08-20 14:02:21] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the feedback - we are considering revisions to those contracts as I agree that the low liquidity can cause unpredictable rates
[2016-08-20 14:02:44] sleger : probably how the MM makes money there, when he gets big positions on one alt, he skews his quotes a lot which cause funding rate to explode and then he rapes the market by cashing in 3x per day the funding rate
[2016-08-20 14:04:16] Thedude : BitMEX_Sam: I know you guys are working on it hope to hear something soon. I know others have felt the same for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4yg9ne/bitmex_margin_trading/
[2016-08-20 14:09:26] rapidtrades : sleger: did they pay u ur money
[2016-08-20 14:09:45] sleger : of course not yet
[2016-08-20 14:10:58] rapidtrades : did they offer u shares?
[2016-08-20 14:12:33] justinlooking : yo sleger u wanna beta this mm bot when it is ready?
[2016-08-20 14:17:44] sleger : rapidtrades: i havent asked for shares, they didnt suggest it either
[2016-08-20 14:23:59] rapidtrades : sleger: did their reply sound like it was passed through legal? mine sounded like it was written by support with added soundbites
[2016-08-20 14:25:38] sleger : hard to say, in between i'd say
[2016-08-20 14:25:50] sleger : did you reach out to a lawyer like the one you linked to via reddit ?
[2016-08-20 14:26:30] rapidtrades : not yet....was waiting for their reply
[2016-08-20 14:27:05] rapidtrades : will send a few emails later today to the people that were interested like that guy
[2016-08-20 14:28:05] rapidtrades : i doubt that they have a legal team at all...that stu guy is prolly not full time either
[2016-08-20 14:31:00] sleger : probably not
[2016-08-20 14:34:01] rapidtrades : sleger: did u mean that bitfinexlawsuit website? that's likely fake
[2016-08-20 14:34:18] sleger : no, some lawyer in a reddit post you linked to here
[2016-08-20 14:35:30] rapidtrades : ah yes this guy https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4xfnlw/bitfinex_is_probably_liable_to_thier_customers/
[2016-08-20 14:36:31] rapidtrades : i asked him some qs on reddit but he could've been scared off by all the bitfinex shill accounts on there
[2016-08-20 14:37:14] rapidtrades : i will try directly and see if he gave up on it
[2016-08-20 14:38:15] sleger : that was smart free advertising from him
[2016-08-20 14:40:43] rapidtrades : sleger: would u be interested in joining any lawsuit?
[2016-08-20 14:41:09] sleger : lawsuits would be either individual, or as class action, there's no "grouped" lawsuits
[2016-08-20 14:42:25] rapidtrades : not exactly...if HK law applies then class action is not doable...but this is https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4y5f6p/exploring_the_class_action_lawsuit_option/
[2016-08-20 14:42:31] sleger : plus, where you sue depends on where it makes most sense, and that depends on each case
[2016-08-20 14:42:54] rapidtrades : rule on representative proceedings, whereby a claimant may bring a representative action on behalf of a group of claimants where those claimants have the same interest in the proceedings.
[2016-08-20 14:43:29] sleger : not sure HK would be the best place to sue anyways
[2016-08-20 14:43:40] rapidtrades : sleger: i'm leaning toward HK, eve though bitfinex says BVI is their jurisdiction
[2016-08-20 14:44:03] rapidtrades : that's where their license is
[2016-08-20 14:44:41] rapidtrades : they can't operate without their license and will likely get cut off from the banks after they lose it
[2016-08-20 14:46:10] rapidtrades : Bitfinex operates under a Hong Kong corporation, Renrenbee Limited (holder of the MSO license), which is wholly owned by a BVI corporation, iFinex Ltd. (our holding company)
[2016-08-20 14:54:48] rapidtrades : sleger: did u notice how they completely removed the link to bitgo reports? so u can't see if ur segregated wallet got hacked or not
[2016-08-20 14:55:12] sleger : yes
[2016-08-20 14:55:26] sleger : i actually dont know
[2016-08-20 14:56:07] rapidtrades : under reports there was a bitgo reports section...first they made them unavailable now its completely gone
[2016-08-20 15:11:18] rapidtrades : justinlooking: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4yomg9/chrome_will_remove_chrome_apps_what_will_happen/
[2016-08-20 15:14:14] Rado : VenCap: you can go to Bitfinex so your funds can get stolen. Good luck!
[2016-08-20 15:14:27] Rado : 12 h is perfectly fine
[2016-08-20 15:14:40] Rado : why do you need to withdraw fast? I can't think of a reason
[2016-08-20 15:21:18] justinlooking : rapid: extensions unaffected
[2016-08-20 15:22:59] rapidtrades : justinlooking: ah cool
[2016-08-20 15:30:26] Rado : justinlooking: where can I get it?
[2016-08-20 15:31:02] justinlooking : rado: 2 weeks :P
[2016-08-20 15:33:40] rapidtrades : my bot will be ready in 1 month
[2016-08-20 15:36:24] rapidtrades : although i said that 1 month ago
[2016-08-20 16:02:42] JH : are there any good guides for Git and how to get started running a bot? Whenever I've looked into it, it always is way too complicated
[2016-08-20 16:04:17] Rado : JH: it is complicated
[2016-08-20 16:04:30] Rado : if it was easy everyone will be a millionaire
[2016-08-20 16:06:40] JH : I suppose so, but getting a bot running shouldnt be that hard.. Im sure the genius is in the proper configuration
[2016-08-20 16:10:49] rapidtrades : you'd think that wouldn't u :)
[2016-08-20 17:15:24] ubeyou : hi
[2016-08-20 18:01:45] Waverunner : Hi. How can I contact support? I believe I've had a couple of issues with stop order execution.
[2016-08-20 18:11:11] JH : A BITMEX rep will probably poke around in here
[2016-08-20 18:11:11] JH : at some point
[2016-08-20 18:14:56] Waverunner : Thanks. Would be nice.
[2016-08-20 19:02:40] BitMEX_Wally : Waverunner: Hello, how can I help?
[2016-08-20 19:09:48] BitMEX_Wally : Waverunner: You can email support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-20 19:18:27] zanza : are we mooning today ?
[2016-08-20 19:23:00] macios15 : zanza: jep, or tomorow
[2016-08-20 19:32:02] Waverunner : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks
[2016-08-20 19:32:49] Waverunner : BitMEX_Wally: I had a couple of stop orders not trigger when expected and I wanted to clarify what happened to be sure.
[2016-08-20 19:33:12] Waverunner : O guess an e-mail to support would be the best way to do it, rightr?
[2016-08-20 21:56:57] messiaen8844 : Wally, is BitMEX considering adding Dash here?
[2016-08-20 23:27:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 357 @ 581.03
[2016-08-20 23:28:05] JH : is something going on in china?
[2016-08-20 23:28:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 190 @ 58436.0
[2016-08-21 00:14:28] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: do you have banner ads I can use?
[2016-08-21 01:28:37] zanza : jh Chinese food
[2016-08-21 01:36:35] rapidtrades : zanza: sup homie
[2016-08-21 02:27:03] daveberns1 : sup sup
[2016-08-21 02:30:40] tradedollarts : Ok :)
[2016-08-21 03:17:38] CaptainDean : we might some real solid base @ 3900
[2016-08-21 04:27:42] mjones : Has there been any talks about DASH or XMR on this site?
[2016-08-21 04:28:16] mjones : I know the hardest part is finding someone to put orders on both sides
[2016-08-21 05:03:24] CaptainDean : yeah, that's the issue
[2016-08-21 05:21:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01900
[2016-08-21 12:53:15] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: rebalance killing my position, even interest positive and price stands ~same... for example, i opened position for ~0.84 BTC, i got 0.14 funding... price stands almost same, after rebalance which cut my funds from technically 0.98 BTC, to 0.44.. in theory i had 0.29BTC but that was on books, coz wasnt executed.. but after rebalance i had smaller wallet balance, which is makes my margin call much closer..coz is smaller hegde shows bigger leverage... so its bad when after every rebalance system closes your position and opens new one
[2016-08-21 12:54:42] premjeraz : and that 0.44+0.29 make ~0.83, but where is that 0.14 from funding ? that means system takes unrealised loss from account, what if i want to wait ? that system totally rigged....
[2016-08-21 12:55:04] premjeraz : i losing funds on open position
[2016-08-21 12:56:44] premjeraz : that is very bad...... sometimes looks like real ponzi cheme here.... dosnt matter what you do, system cuts your funds
[2016-08-21 12:58:45] premjeraz : i cant get whats wrong with that, i padi for my contracts 0.84 btc, and if i sell them now for same price as i paid its going to be 0.63 BTC
[2016-08-21 12:58:49] premjeraz : how ?
[2016-08-21 12:59:30] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalancing does not change your overall profit or loss, it just moves it into your wallet
[2016-08-21 13:00:52] premjeraz : if position dosnt closed, but they taking from your ccount that "paper loss" which is not taken before...
[2016-08-21 13:01:17] BitMEX_Wally : Every 24 hours your profit since the previous rebalance plus any fees/funding is moved into your wallet via CashRebalance transactions which you can see here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-08-21 13:10:39] premjeraz : i see that, but that paper loss was taken from account, what makes my position more vulnelable
[2016-08-21 13:11:20] premjeraz : should be like this.... all my calls because of this rebalance is loss
[2016-08-21 13:11:40] premjeraz : i already lost 0.5 BTC of that rulz...
[2016-08-21 13:11:49] BitMEX_Wally : Let me check your account
[2016-08-21 13:12:01] BitMEX_Wally : This is your LTCXBT position?
[2016-08-21 13:12:05] premjeraz : my account should be 0.98 BTC with 0.29 BTC paper loss, but now are 0.48
[2016-08-21 13:12:15] premjeraz : yes
[2016-08-21 13:13:28] BitMEX_Wally : You don't have cross margin enabled
[2016-08-21 13:13:39] BitMEX_Wally : So your available balance does not affect your liquidation price
[2016-08-21 13:15:12] premjeraz : but how its happend with 0.84 BTC position + 0.14 funding = how its now 0.48 BTC ?
[2016-08-21 13:15:34] BitMEX_Wally : You are long, so you paid funding
[2016-08-21 13:15:53] justinlooking : when was position opened?
[2016-08-21 13:16:46] premjeraz : and how its possible same number contracts cost me 0.84 BTC ? and if i sell for same price im going to get 0.63 BTC ?
[2016-08-21 13:17:07] BitMEX_Wally : Between 2016.08.20 22:05:11.836839000 and 2016.08.21 08:27:47.334702000
[2016-08-21 13:17:08] BitMEX_Wally : UTC
[2016-08-21 13:18:41] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: but that rebalance cut makes my account more vulnable
[2016-08-21 13:19:12] BitMEX_Wally : Between your entry price and the first rebalance price of 0.00620 you had -0.2089709 XBT of PNL, minus 0.0745477 XBT of funding and fees so that was in total -0.2899467 XBT
[2016-08-21 13:20:24] BitMEX_Wally : Then between 0.0062 and the current mark price of 0.00622 you have 0.04856 XBT of unrealised PNL. minus 0.0772701 XBT of funding, so in total your pending rebalance is currently -0.0287101 XBT
[2016-08-21 13:20:37] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalancing did not change your liquidation price
[2016-08-21 13:20:43] premjeraz : i see that!!!!
[2016-08-21 13:20:50] premjeraz : problem is not there
[2016-08-21 13:21:12] premjeraz : we dont need tok now everyone abiut my positions
[2016-08-21 13:21:27] BitMEX_Wally : Please email support@bitmex.com to discuss in private
[2016-08-21 13:46:19] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Wally: What´s his liquidation price? I´d like to stop him out, you can also send it to me via e-mail, thanks!
[2016-08-21 13:49:38] justinlooking : haha
[2016-08-21 13:53:40] justinlooking : premjeraz: u kno u can adjust margin assigned to a position at any time? also current balance with open positions marked to mark price is "margin balance" (inside Advanced Margin window).
[2016-08-21 14:13:49] premjeraz : But problem is that, that funds was taken from my account, that position wasnt fixed...so i can be destroyed account because of market even your account can hold that ups and down, bet after rebalance "paper loss" taken from account my your funds smaller..and after any dow ln its going be less and less...so that system makes you loose all your funds sooner or later, even you make good call on long run and your account can take that small daily losses, but with that rebalance its makes you lose
[2016-08-21 14:15:29] JH : COME ON, can the market please move in either direction
[2016-08-21 14:15:56] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: I replied to your support ticket to explain that rebalance does not change your liquidation price, but funding payments can
[2016-08-21 14:16:40] BitMEX_Wally : A 25x position is fixed at 4% margin, and the funding comes out of (and is paid into) the fixed margin
[2016-08-21 14:17:17] premjeraz : Im trading on polo and previuosly on bitfinex..i was looking for sonething like this, i was send here 1brc to try it out, but i see there few flaws
[2016-08-21 14:17:54] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: ok
[2016-08-21 15:10:21] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: charts not loading for me
[2016-08-21 15:10:35] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: do you have a banner add I can put on my blog?
[2016-08-21 15:29:50] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: We don't - most users generally use the logo & some custom text in a png
[2016-08-21 15:52:48] HackedOnBFX : Hi
[2016-08-21 15:53:27] HackedOnBFX : I'm trying to run the sample market maker bot, and I'm running into an error where the bot stops running after a few minutes. Where can I get some help?
[2016-08-21 16:01:45] BitMEX_Sam : HackedOnBFX: Hi - I can answer some simple questions, but in general the project is not intended to be a working product, but rather an explanation of how to communicate with our API
[2016-08-21 16:07:28] justinlooking : HackedOnBFX: was that u testing on live xbtusd with the rapid flashing 10 lots earlier?