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[2016-08-18 00:06:20] BitMEX_Greg : Thedude: One last thing, as mentioned earlier this provides an opportunity to make a killing in reversing the trade.
[2016-08-18 00:07:33] Thedude : BitMEX_Greg: I realize now, will consider current funding rates on alts in taking positions.
[2016-08-18 00:07:45] micmix : BitMEX_Arthur: you might need to push auto deleveraging live at the same time to deal with DPE on alt futures, it's going to be rough without it
[2016-08-18 00:07:47] BitMEX_Greg : Thedude: All I can say is to pay attention to the "Predicted Funding". A successful trader is one that not only makes successful trades, but also is on top of every cost to a trade.
[2016-08-18 00:08:18] BitMEX_Greg : micmix: We're looking into it
[2016-08-18 00:22:12] lockhedge : how does auto deleveraging work?
[2016-08-18 00:23:17] BitMEX_Arthur : lockhedge: We rank you based on leverage and pnl, highest leveraged traders get a higher score
[2016-08-18 00:23:40] BitMEX_Arthur : If say a long gets liquidated we look down the list of shorts ranked by leverage and pnl, then close your positions at the bankruptcy price of the liquidation order
[2016-08-18 00:24:11] BitMEX_Arthur : That's it in a nutshell, we will be releasing the guide soon followed by a few week grace period before switching anything, there will be an announcement
[2016-08-18 00:24:24] rapidtrades : so leverage is n1?
[2016-08-18 00:24:29] rapidtrades : criterion?
[2016-08-18 00:25:04] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes the more leverage you use, the more likely you are to be auto delev if a liquidation order cannot be filled in the market
[2016-08-18 00:25:42] rapidtrades : and that's my overall lev of in that particular contract
[2016-08-18 00:25:48] rapidtrades : or*
[2016-08-18 00:25:48] BitMEX_Arthur : This method is already live in our testnet, we have been testing it for a few weeks now
[2016-08-18 00:25:57] BitMEX_Arthur : effective leverage on the product level
[2016-08-18 00:26:25] BitMEX_Arthur : so there will be no more rebalance, no more withheld profit
[2016-08-18 00:30:41] BitMEX_Arthur : Our Chinese version is also in Testnet as well, it's not finished yet but you can have a sneak peak, lots going on this month
[2016-08-18 02:14:05] zanza : rapidtrades: any Yuan predictions ?
[2016-08-18 02:36:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you did not buy etc you will now need to chase and pay up
[2016-08-18 02:37:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : I can think of one great improvement
[2016-08-18 02:38:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : i like the weekly etc and any other market made on that basis but . . .
[2016-08-18 02:38:34] rapidtrades : a new MM on swap? seeing big walls
[2016-08-18 02:38:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : The starting date should be on Thursday at 5 am with exp following Friday
[2016-08-18 02:39:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : That should fix the exp problems like we had last Friday
[2016-08-18 02:39:36] rapidtrades : zanza: no position in yuan....
[2016-08-18 02:39:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : In other words the two markets overlap for 24 hours
[2016-08-18 02:47:34] rapidtrades : so in the past 24 hours we learned that bitfinex management trade so big on their own platform that they now hold 2 spots in the top 10
[2016-08-18 02:47:41] rapidtrades : that's just peachy
[2016-08-18 02:48:31] rapidtrades : 2 spots in top 10 token holders
[2016-08-18 02:49:15] rapidtrades : and of course that had nothing to do with why the current haircut model was chosen....like nothing at all
[2016-08-18 02:53:55] rapidtrades : btc-e still leading even with that outtage today https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets
[2016-08-18 02:55:28] rapidtrades : I'm guessing it's where Americans went to trade on margin
[2016-08-18 03:05:27] micmix : rapidtrades: BTC-E has zero fees until the end of August, it's one of the reasons for high volumes
[2016-08-18 03:19:28] zanza : Bitmex should do a 0 fee promotion also to pick up some Finex customers :) You could call it "0 fee" and make it `-25/25` so the maker still gets rebate
[2016-08-18 03:40:09] Rado : BitMEX_Arthur: are prices on the testnet real?
[2016-08-18 03:41:03] Rado : I mean can I test a bot there and then use similar parameters on the live account.
[2016-08-18 03:42:42] micmix : Rado: index prices are the same but mark price and premium/funding/impact mid price etc are different
[2016-08-18 03:43:21] Rado : do you know why?
[2016-08-18 03:43:23] micmix : because completely different order flow
[2016-08-18 03:44:14] Rado : can we simulate better order flow?
[2016-08-18 03:44:24] Rado : for example do you run your bot there?
[2016-08-18 03:44:38] micmix : you can if you have time and enough test bitcoins
[2016-08-18 03:45:11] Rado : cool
[2016-08-18 03:45:53] micmix : I run short tests there then switch to live. I wanted to simulate order flow on testnet but it's not worth the time. It's easier for me to test on live with like 0.1 BTC orders
[2016-08-18 03:46:13] Rado : right
[2016-08-18 05:35:19] zanza : my site is finally up https://www.bitfinexlawsuit.scam/
[2016-08-18 07:19:26] Rado : zanza: looks really good
[2016-08-18 07:20:17] rapidtrades : is that his actual site?
[2016-08-18 07:20:30] rapidtrades : i mean...is that site actually his?
[2016-08-18 07:23:20] Rado : rapidtrades: zanza is a girl
[2016-08-18 07:23:55] Rado : and she said "my" site
[2016-08-18 07:26:07] miramm1115 : "Honk Kong" is actually spelled Hong Kong @zanza
[2016-08-18 07:31:02] Rado : I like Honk Honk
[2016-08-18 07:48:26] rapidtrades : i think it's a joke site
[2016-08-18 07:50:27] rapidtrades : Rado: and girls can't make website
[2016-08-18 07:50:35] rapidtrades : s
[2016-08-18 09:03:17] Boontjie : BitMEX_Arthur: Wait so if you are in a massively good positive short and a long gets liquidated you get forced to take profit and close leverage?
[2016-08-18 09:26:27] rapidtrades : Boontjie: yes but they go for the most leveraged positions first then profit
[2016-08-18 09:27:11] rapidtrades : i think they said they will publish the equation soon
[2016-08-18 09:27:33] Boontjie : How is this good for you as a trader. You open a leveraged position, market goes up by 10%, you have $$$. You go to bed. You wake up and your position is half of what it was, market went up 30%
[2016-08-18 09:27:47] rapidtrades : yea it can get tricky
[2016-08-18 09:28:01] Boontjie : Other way. Market goes down, you get liquidated
[2016-08-18 09:28:11] Boontjie : It is heavily weighted against you
[2016-08-18 09:28:11] rapidtrades : they will email u but then u have to set up ur email to alert u etc
[2016-08-18 09:28:27] Boontjie : If you are sleeping, email will not help
[2016-08-18 09:29:09] rapidtrades : yeah maybe the platform should make a loud alarm
[2016-08-18 09:29:14] rapidtrades : is it possible
[2016-08-18 09:29:25] Boontjie : Why not just offer 5 times leverage max. Cause you will be insane to be up for close position
[2016-08-18 09:29:47] rapidtrades : i would prefer 5-10x leverage as well
[2016-08-18 09:30:47] rapidtrades : 5x is a bit low in this current environment but they could up it from 10 to 5 if we get into another bubble
[2016-08-18 09:35:45] Tetsuo : things are getting a bit complcated in here, i hope at least the team knows how everything gets calculated in here, i gave up some time ago
[2016-08-18 09:36:51] rapidtrades : u think this is complicated? we had a 24h quanto
[2016-08-18 09:37:26] rapidtrades : at 100x leverage
[2016-08-18 09:37:31] Tetsuo : i remember
[2016-08-18 09:37:41] Boontjie : yes, amazing
[2016-08-18 09:37:52] rapidtrades : fun times...those were the easiest money i made in crypto
[2016-08-18 09:41:13] rapidtrades : btw Bitfinex hired vitalik's firm to do their audit
[2016-08-18 09:41:20] rapidtrades : We are also in the process of engaging Ledger Labs to perform an audit of our complete balance sheet for both cryptocurrency and fiat assets and liabilities
[2016-08-18 09:42:29] rapidtrades : Ledger Labs everyone! not Deloitte or KPMG....Ledger f*cking Labs
[2016-08-18 09:42:31] Tetsuo : i know, hilarious. They could also take pictures of their naked asses and send them to their customers
[2016-08-18 09:43:10] rapidtrades : 90% of their actions have been wrong...this can't be incompetence, smth is up at that firm
[2016-08-18 09:44:18] jesperf : well, if you act randomly without thinking.. as incompetent people do
[2016-08-18 09:45:26] jesperf : if you flip a coin 10 times it's still possible to get the same result every time
[2016-08-18 09:45:28] Boontjie : They could be of the opinion an expert in cryptocurrency would be in a better position to provide an accurate audit
[2016-08-18 09:45:38] Boontjie : well 'expert'
[2016-08-18 09:46:49] rapidtrades : we already know how much BTC they hold....its on the blockchain
[2016-08-18 09:48:28] rapidtrades : how is LL gonna audit them when they don't have the expertise or the pedigree...they're not even licensed to do audits
[2016-08-18 09:49:05] Boontjie : Well that last part if true, means BFX is stupid
[2016-08-18 09:50:16] Tetsuo : no way
[2016-08-18 09:51:04] rapidtrades : http://ledgerlabs.com/team/
[2016-08-18 09:51:28] rapidtrades : i see no accountants in there
[2016-08-18 09:51:51] Tetsuo : wuestion is ; how much percentage is deliberate criminnal and how much is stupidity
[2016-08-18 09:52:01] rapidtrades : bunch of coders, developers and 'strategy guys'
[2016-08-18 09:52:50] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: at first i was going with n2 but as time goes on, im started to slowly think inside job
[2016-08-18 09:53:22] rapidtrades : may not be all of them but everything they do screams karpeles
[2016-08-18 09:53:38] miramm1115 : Boontjie: you can use lower leverage like below 10x and never worry about auto deleveraging. you cannot avoid DPE with the current system no matter what leverage you are using
[2016-08-18 09:53:55] rapidtrades : they have a little shill army on reddit now...all accounts 14 days old ...made after hack
[2016-08-18 09:54:36] Boontjie : miramm1115: You can lower the probability of deleveraging, but not completely discount it
[2016-08-18 09:55:17] Boontjie : Someone opens a 50x positions with a 100btc YOLO and see if the market has the liquidity to keep all positions open
[2016-08-18 09:55:38] rapidtrades : fair point
[2016-08-18 09:55:54] rapidtrades : i hate DPE tho so I would like to see how this system does
[2016-08-18 09:56:26] Boontjie : Sure DPE isnt great, but its what happens when you run a forward market trying to force it to spot
[2016-08-18 09:56:48] miramm1115 : well that someone opened position against other traders, and most of those will be highly leveraged and will be deleveraged before you
[2016-08-18 09:57:29] rapidtrades : i'd like to see the actual calculation...
[2016-08-18 09:57:30] Boontjie : miramm1115: no, 50 traders with 2x leverage vs 2 with 50x leverage
[2016-08-18 09:57:52] miramm1115 : never works like that in real life
[2016-08-18 09:57:53] rapidtrades : like is it 1. highly leveraged 2. if not enough of those go after highest profit
[2016-08-18 09:57:56] BitMEX_Arthur : I think you guys weren't here when we had low leverage and 0 trading volume
[2016-08-18 09:58:04] rapidtrades : or is it a mix of two
[2016-08-18 09:58:25] BitMEX_Arthur : I think the verdict is pretty clear the majority of traders want the high leverage, it is what produces the arbitrage opportunities that you like @rapidtrades
[2016-08-18 09:58:38] rapidtrades : prolly right
[2016-08-18 09:59:01] BitMEX_Arthur : So while you may be a responsible trader, you will have no trading setups if there are no reckless highly leveraged traders
[2016-08-18 09:59:07] rapidtrades : we had a lot more arbitrage under the 24h qunato tho
[2016-08-18 09:59:08] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Arthur: totally agree, we can't make any money without gamblers ;-)
[2016-08-18 09:59:20] Boontjie : BitMEX_Arthur: Yes sure I like the high leverage. Allows me to borrow to pick up premiums
[2016-08-18 09:59:44] Boontjie : I have been liquidated before though :)
[2016-08-18 10:01:32] Boontjie : BitMEX_Arthur: Just worried about the fairness. If you have a system to deleverage profitable trades I want to pick to deleverage my loss making ones while I sleep :)
[2016-08-18 10:02:30] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: is it gonna be a 1 (leverage) then 2 (profit) system? or a mix of the two criterion
[2016-08-18 10:02:44] Boontjie : Stop loss doesnt guarantee it gets executed at that price, if that is what I understand from closing the shorts
[2016-08-18 10:02:45] miramm1115 : Boontjie: you might even get a better price bc your position will be deleveraged at the top/bottom when most get rekt
[2016-08-18 10:02:48] BitMEX_Arthur : leverage then profit to come up with your rank
[2016-08-18 10:03:14] rapidtrades : so a mix then
[2016-08-18 10:03:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Yes
[2016-08-18 10:03:52] rapidtrades : that's not good...i would prefer a leverage first and move to profit only if there's no highly leveraged ppl
[2016-08-18 10:05:14] Boontjie : The more highly profitable the higher the rank?
[2016-08-18 10:06:01] rapidtrades : example 1: A uses 11:1 leverage but has profit of 1 BTC but B uses 10:1 and has a profit of 100 BTC...under ur system it would be possible for B to be closed before A?
[2016-08-18 10:06:43] BitMEX_Arthur : ```Ranking = Effective Leverage * PNL Percentage where Effective Leverage = abs(markValue) / (markValue - bankruptValue) PNL percentage = (markPrice - avgEntryPrice) / abs(avgEntryPrice) Mark Value = Position Value at Mark Price Bankrupt Value = Position Value at Bankruptcy Price Avg Entry Price = Average Price of Position Entry```
[2016-08-18 10:07:12] BitMEX_Arthur : the formal document will be released when we make the announcement but that is the likely calculation
[2016-08-18 10:10:42] rapidtrades : ok so teh PnL part will be relative not based on absolute BTC gain/loss
[2016-08-18 10:10:57] BitMEX_Arthur : correct
[2016-08-18 10:11:17] BitMEX_Arthur : We basically ran simulations using a few different ranking methods and this was the best one
[2016-08-18 10:11:42] rapidtrades : why not just use just leverage? what problems did u encounter with that
[2016-08-18 10:11:55] BitMEX_Arthur : traders could get closed at a loss
[2016-08-18 10:12:36] BitMEX_Arthur : this system ensured that we didn't close someone out where they would go into a bankrupt situation
[2016-08-18 10:14:58] rapidtrades : why would they go bankrupt? is there an added cost to having ur position closed in this way
[2016-08-18 10:17:08] Tetsuo : additional rekt fees?
[2016-08-18 10:18:01] BitMEX_Arthur : there are edge cases where closing the out the opposing side could lead to a bankrupt situation, it's very rare, we ran the simulation using all the BitMEX trading data during the 500->800 pump
[2016-08-18 10:32:56] rapidtrades : what was the most common leverage where ppl were closed? and what was the 'safe' leverage below which noone was closed
[2016-08-18 10:39:49] BitMEX_Arthur : Everyone has the same Maintenance margin so leverage really isn't relevant for this simulation
[2016-08-18 10:44:41] rapidtrades : i see... u didn't use our account info like leverage etc...guess that would be hard to do
[2016-08-18 10:44:42] Boontjie : I think it relates to closing a big account vs a lot of small accounts
[2016-08-18 10:45:07] rapidtrades : no the calc says the profit part will be relative
[2016-08-18 10:45:40] Boontjie : Ah so you are either deep in profit or shit deep in leverage
[2016-08-18 10:46:03] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-08-18 11:13:15] rapidtrades : man finally some funding for the shorts...it's been a brutal week
[2016-08-18 11:13:31] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: when will u implement the new system?
[2016-08-18 11:19:37] BitMEX_Arthur : No firm date we are hoping to make the announcement in a week or so then there will be a few weeks afterwards before it goes live
[2016-08-18 11:27:18] esuvari : what's going on with the mad btc buys?
[2016-08-18 11:34:47] bernx : BitMEX_Arthur: Did you have any plans for add new crypto pairs?
[2016-08-18 11:35:30] macios15 : no sell orders at finex
[2016-08-18 11:35:50] bernx : MAID, DASH(not sure, coz useless for me), maybe NXT, AMP?
[2016-08-18 12:16:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.003061
[2016-08-18 13:07:00] rapidtrades : macios15: on what?
[2016-08-18 13:44:59] BitMEX_Greg : bernx: No plans yet. If they have a solid trading volume track record and more traders demand it we may consider other alts
[2016-08-18 15:04:03] billyboy402 : when does the funding change to once a day
[2016-08-18 15:04:09] billyboy402 : Funding is paid and received every 8 hours. The next payout event is at 06:00 (20:00 UTC).
[2016-08-18 15:06:05] BitMEX_Sam : It doesn't change to once a day, it's always every 8 hours.
[2016-08-18 15:06:34] nip : billyboy402: less frequent funding would make the premiums get much larger
[2016-08-18 15:07:39] billyboy402 : i thought thye last email said it was chainging
[2016-08-18 15:14:31] billyboy402 : where do ui see that last interest paid of recived , this site is till soooo confusing
[2016-08-18 15:15:28] billyboy402 : in my account , why the hell do i have CashRebalance -0.1960 XBT when i have only made profitable trade since my last depoist
[2016-08-18 15:21:33] BitMEX_Greg : Is it most likely from funding
[2016-08-18 15:22:14] BitMEX_Greg : Take a look at your Trade History: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-18 15:22:36] nip : my guess is change in mark price
[2016-08-18 15:22:41] billyboy402 : well that just took me 6 min to try and find , i think the funding cost and earning should to place in balance where a normal person would first look
[2016-08-18 15:23:54] billyboy402 : the layout and trade history is soo confuing
[2016-08-18 15:24:02] billyboy402 : 2016-08-18 22:00:00 XBTUSD Rebalance Sell 20000 572.87 34.9120 XBT 0.0000% -.-- Limit 20000 0 572.87 Rebalance 000000 2016-08-18 22:00:00 XBTUSD Rebalance Buy 20000 572.87 -34.9120 XBT 0.0000% -.-- Limit 20000 0 572.87 Rebalance 000000
[2016-08-18 15:24:14] billyboy402 : why does uit put buy and then sell the same thing
[2016-08-18 15:27:26] billyboy402 : ok so the 8 hours of funding , ist that the avg time . or the final price ,. feel like at every 8 hours a while can manipulate the price so if they are huge long . like 1000 BTC , then spend 1 btc to buy the price up and get 0.200% on the total 1000 BTC
[2016-08-18 15:27:33] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: It is to do with the rebalance. Essentially it is closing your position and then reopening at the rebalance price
[2016-08-18 15:28:16] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: why does the end user need to see it then . it just overcomplate the trade history
[2016-08-18 15:29:09] Rado : billyboy402: you need to see the profit/loss after the rebalance
[2016-08-18 15:29:20] BitMEX_Greg : It is done on an averaging basis
[2016-08-18 15:29:53] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: So you are unable to manipulate it buy going long 1000 BTC in the last minute, for example
[2016-08-18 15:30:26] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: We want to provide as much information to the user as possible, including their rebalancing positions.
[2016-08-18 15:30:50] billyboy402 : soooo , if the price has been under for the last 7 hours , then some whale pump the price up . does it pay if the price it up above index , for the last 7 hours ...
[2016-08-18 15:31:20] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: It's an average, so really depends what the average would be during the last hour
[2016-08-18 15:32:22] billyboy402 : so it work out the avg the index has been for 8 hours , and work out the avg bi8tmex price for the last 8 hours ?
[2016-08-18 15:33:52] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: Yes its an 8 Hour TWAP: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-08-18 15:35:01] BitMEX_Greg : The concept can be a bit different if you are just used to trading Futures, but for some further information take a read of: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding
[2016-08-18 15:35:06] billyboy402 : like every thing else on ur site , it over complated with jargon , what is TWAP ? for the rest of the ppl like my self
[2016-08-18 15:35:42] BitMEX_Greg : https://www.google.com/#q=TWAP
[2016-08-18 15:35:57] BitMEX_Greg : `The Time-Weighted Average Price (TWAP) is defined as the average price of a security over the course of a specified period of time`
[2016-08-18 15:36:23] billyboy402 : oh great you send me a google link , that usefull as fuck , it shoudl be on ur website
[2016-08-18 15:36:37] 4lph4 : billyboy402: get lost mate
[2016-08-18 15:36:44] 4lph4 : billyboy402: do some research if you wanna trade crypto
[2016-08-18 15:36:55] 4lph4 : billyboy402: there is no point in being rude
[2016-08-18 15:38:21] billyboy402 : 4lph4: shhhh that calling the kettle black isnt it
[2016-08-18 15:38:40] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: It's a fairly common term in the trading world. I can point you to a good book that goes over basic introduction to derivatives if you like
[2016-08-18 15:39:02] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: yea that information should be either hyper link or posted at the bottom
[2016-08-18 15:39:13] 4lph4 : billyboy402: I don't get what you are saying and I don't care anyway. people like you deserve to get 36% haircut so you'd better go on bitfinex and trade
[2016-08-18 15:40:14] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: http://polymer.bu.edu/hes/rp-hull12.pdf Hull's textbook is known as the bible in Finance. Every trader would have a copy on their desk
[2016-08-18 15:40:34] billyboy402 : 4lph4: please dont ever respond to me , it annoying that chrome give me a notication when a troll " mention you"
[2016-08-18 15:41:13] BitMEX_Greg : It can be a bit daunting at first, but if you are serious about trading I highly recommend it.
[2016-08-18 15:41:25] 4lph4 : billyboy402: you are so arrogant mate, you deserve the worst I cannot imagine there are people like you. totally uneducated on the matter and demanding
[2016-08-18 15:41:49] BitMEX_Greg : 4lph4: Let's keep it to a minimum here
[2016-08-18 15:42:31] billyboy402 : i have asked you nice , please stop harassing me . @4lph4
[2016-08-18 15:42:47] 4lph4 : billyboy402: lol what a looser
[2016-08-18 15:43:02] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: thx for the link
[2016-08-18 15:46:32] BitMEX_Greg : No prob, I'll try to help out where possible but we not be able to respond as quick as you like for some questions you have. Try google it first, if you still don't understand some terminology give us a ping
[2016-08-18 15:47:06] daveberns1 : Anybody else on CF?
[2016-08-18 15:47:22] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Greg: any reason why the funding rate are not calculated more frequently like every hour
[2016-08-18 15:48:18] daveberns1 : somebody came in and bought up all the far dated futures
[2016-08-18 15:48:35] daveberns1 : massive spreads on dec and mar futures
[2016-08-18 15:48:40] billyboy402 : seam like every time I look "shorts will receive 0.1583%" ... then i check tomorrow and see that I have paid interest not
[2016-08-18 15:50:55] BitMEX_Greg : billyboy402: Take a look at: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-18 15:51:24] BitMEX_Greg : You can click on the XBTUSD symbol to isolate it, else you can filter by adding `{"symbol":"XBTUSD"}` in the search box
[2016-08-18 15:53:01] billyboy402 : yea i saw that ,. just feel like every time before the 8 hours it pop up for 5 min , and the funding rate not what iot been saying for the last 7 hours
[2016-08-18 15:53:31] BitMEX_Greg : The periods also tie in with rebalancing, and for the purposes of settling PnL and positions. More importantly it's also to account for any liquidation events that could lead to losses (need a long enough period to have liquidations taken care of).
[2016-08-18 15:53:46] BitMEX_Greg : The funding is always fixed
[2016-08-18 15:54:09] billyboy402 : would there be any benfits if it was done every hour
[2016-08-18 15:54:10] BitMEX_Greg : So right now, in 4 hours time shorts will get paid 0.1583%
[2016-08-18 15:54:40] billyboy402 : yea , but in 4 hours . it will prob be 0.015%
[2016-08-18 15:54:58] BitMEX_Greg : No, it is fixed.
[2016-08-18 15:55:13] BitMEX_Greg : It won't change at all when it comes to the 4 hour rebalance event
[2016-08-18 15:55:19] billyboy402 : like i came on 12 hours ago , and it said short would make XXXX ... then come online , then see i was charge
[2016-08-18 15:55:23] BitMEX_Greg : If you hover over it, it tells you the next predicted funding
[2016-08-18 15:56:15] billyboy402 : would be great if you could click a box , so u didnt have to tpe {"symbol":"XBTUSD"}
[2016-08-18 15:56:35] BitMEX_Greg : You can click on the Symbol
[2016-08-18 15:56:52] billyboy402 : ok yea that easyer
[2016-08-18 15:56:55] BitMEX_Greg : See where it says LSKXBT or FCTXBT etc
[2016-08-18 15:56:58] BitMEX_Greg : just click one of those
[2016-08-18 16:09:26] macios15 : nice pump
[2016-08-18 16:16:11] wotan : agree btc more and more looks kinda bullish to me
[2016-08-18 16:16:15] wotan : but lets see
[2016-08-18 16:16:35] wotan : could take some weeks or months even for a return to another level
[2016-08-18 16:24:04] 4lph4 : wotan: $5 "pump"
[2016-08-18 16:25:07] wotan : yes 4lph4 but at least its good if we find a bottom for btc right now 3800 is holding good
[2016-08-18 16:29:33] 4lph4 : wotan: there is nothing significant on the news that could explain an upwards price move.. what I see is people still talking about bitfinex and lawsuits.. dunno...
[2016-08-18 16:32:26] wotan : 4lph4 i see it completely other
[2016-08-18 16:33:31] wotan : btc is still the crypto standart many projects out there, world ecoonomic is in a terrible shape, kim dotcom willl release his bitcache in early 2017 and many more
[2016-08-18 16:34:05] 4lph4 : wotan: well don't get me wrong, I was focusing on this week or the next, not generally btc's potential.. :)
[2016-08-18 16:35:02] wotan : sure i agree short term i dont see a strong uptrend but midterm like weeks and months i would not be suprised for it
[2016-08-18 16:35:10] premjeraz : withdrawals processes just one per 24hours ? next 13 UTC so ir next 21hours ? really ?
[2016-08-18 16:35:39] wotan : yes premjeraz withdrawals are processed from humans here and its good for safety
[2016-08-18 16:35:48] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-08-18 16:36:19] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/security
[2016-08-18 16:36:58] 4lph4 : wotan: I wouldn't be surprised either, I would actually be surprised if the price does not look sexy by the end of the year
[2016-08-18 16:37:17] premjeraz : its not when its proccesed one per 24hours..sometimes i want move btc fast..
[2016-08-18 16:38:08] wotan : 4lph4 agree
[2016-08-18 16:38:25] premjeraz : at least they could do every 6 or 8hours... now is funds like frozen
[2016-08-18 16:39:32] premjeraz : i liked this platform, but this withdrawal policy is not very good for me
[2016-08-18 17:00:45] jesperf : premjeraz: wrong use case. this is not a wallet service
[2016-08-18 17:01:40] jesperf : the withdrawal policy is good for everyone. I'd like for them to continue not losing a single bitcoin of customer deposits
[2016-08-18 17:19:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 167 @ 0.002955
[2016-08-18 17:23:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 3050 @ 0.002916
[2016-08-18 18:27:32] zanza : what are you in a rush for premjeraz ?
[2016-08-18 18:34:11] Bittip : Hi
[2016-08-18 18:34:33] Bittip : how to trade here
[2016-08-18 18:35:00] Bittip : any one to guide me
[2016-08-18 18:49:54] BitMEX_Greg : Bittip: Hi, we have several guides here helping users learn how to trade.
[2016-08-18 18:50:09] BitMEX_Greg : I suggest to start here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-08-18 18:55:45] premjeraz : zanza: yes, kind of.
[2016-08-18 19:57:47] justinlooking : did someone say rETC
[2016-08-18 20:16:25] jackbr : testnet is down?
[2016-08-18 20:23:20] rapidtrades : haxmb: update on the lawyer situation?
[2016-08-18 20:28:09] BitMEX_Sam : jackbr: Yes, will be back up shortly
[2016-08-18 20:36:57] jackbr : thx
[2016-08-18 20:42:18] Tetsuo : https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2016-08-17-binary-safety
[2016-08-18 20:42:38] Tetsuo : "Bitcoin.org has reason to suspect that the binaries for the upcoming Bitcoin Core release will likely be targeted by state sponsored attackers. As a website, Bitcoin.org does not have the necessary technical resources to guarantee that we can defend ourselves from attackers of this calibre."
[2016-08-18 20:43:23] Tetsuo : In such a situation, not being careful before you download binaries could cause you to lose all your coins. This malicious software might also cause your computer to participate in attacks against the Bitcoin network. We believe Chinese services such as pools and exchanges are most at risk here due to the origin of the attackers.
[2016-08-18 20:45:17] rapidtrades : pffft
[2016-08-18 20:45:36] rapidtrades : that's NOT GOOD
[2016-08-18 20:46:19] rapidtrades : how about this tho https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4ycryp/eli49_why_is_one_single_person_able_to_change_the/
[2016-08-18 20:46:25] rapidtrades : looks like website got hacked
[2016-08-18 20:49:42] rapidtrades : yeah that safety alert is not official from the developers
[2016-08-18 20:51:44] Tetsuo : i´m confused
[2016-08-18 20:53:05] rapidtrades : yeah that's not a 'real' security update
[2016-08-18 20:53:11] rapidtrades : tkae a look at this tho https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4yc6xq/bitfinex_what_do_the_etherium_holders_know_that/
[2016-08-18 20:53:31] rapidtrades : bitfinex held 1 mil ETH....that's an extra 10mil in assets over bitcoin
[2016-08-18 20:54:09] Tetsuo : have read that already.... i´m not shocked about it at this point; lol
[2016-08-18 20:54:42] rapidtrades : so they barely had any usd on the stie?
[2016-08-18 20:55:35] rapidtrades : cos they lost 65-70 mil in btc...they had extra 70 mil in BTC left....plus 10 ETH
[2016-08-18 20:56:04] rapidtrades : math doesn't add up....
[2016-08-18 20:56:13] rapidtrades : that leaves barely any USD
[2016-08-18 20:56:19] rapidtrades : like 5-10 mil
[2016-08-18 20:56:22] Tetsuo : yep
[2016-08-18 20:56:27] rapidtrades : and that's not even counting LTC
[2016-08-18 20:56:36] rapidtrades : how much $$$ did they keep? this is crazy
[2016-08-18 20:57:10] rapidtrades : smth is srsly wrong at that exchange
[2016-08-18 20:58:04] rapidtrades : they kept much more then 7 mil USD
[2016-08-18 21:06:02] rapidtrades : 119,756 BTC stolen, valued at 604
[2016-08-18 21:09:53] rapidtrades : to arrive at 36% haircut, the amount of USD in there should've been <20 mil and that seems really low
[2016-08-18 21:10:21] rapidtrades : shouldn't u expect a value close to 50/50? value of bitcoins was over 140 mil pre-hack
[2016-08-18 21:12:59] rapidtrades : help me math nerds....72.2 mil in hacked coins....around 78mil in BTC lett plus 1mil in ETH and they say they kept 7mil USD
[2016-08-18 21:13:28] rapidtrades : how much USD is it to arrive at 36% haircut
[2016-08-18 21:13:46] rapidtrades : srry 10mil in ETH not 1
[2016-08-18 21:15:54] BitMEX_Sam : 72M / 36.067% is roughly 200.2M
[2016-08-18 21:16:04] BitMEX_Sam : So expect they should have at least that much in assets
[2016-08-18 21:18:13] habibi : rapidtrades: nice:) 22:56 - rapidtrades: math doesn't add up.... 20 minutes later: 23:12 - rapidtrades: help me math nerds....72.2 mil in hacked coins....around 78mil in BTC lett plus 1mil in ETH and they say they kept 7mil USD
[2016-08-18 21:19:05] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: ah cool now it makes sense tnx
[2016-08-18 21:20:12] rapidtrades : that leaves 47 mil usd if we include the 7 they took to fight off our lawsuits
[2016-08-18 21:21:09] rapidtrades : isn't that still on the low side? total value of BTC was close to 150 mil yet not even 50 mil USD?
[2016-08-18 21:22:04] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, it does seem low, but it stands to reason there'd be more BTC, it's much easier to move it
[2016-08-18 21:22:17] BitMEX_Sam : And they had built up a large userbase of unverifieds who were BTC in/out
[2016-08-18 21:23:34] rapidtrades : right but shouldn't the value of the two balance each other out? for every long there's a short etc
[2016-08-18 21:24:03] BitMEX_Sam : No, not necessarily
[2016-08-18 21:24:12] BitMEX_Sam : A lot of it could have just been held
[2016-08-18 21:24:17] BitMEX_Sam : Or exchanged for other cryptos
[2016-08-18 21:24:58] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-08-18 21:25:36] rapidtrades : do we know how much did LTC contribute? prolly 1mil max?
[2016-08-18 21:26:19] rapidtrades : all others are prolly <5mil
[2016-08-18 21:39:05] rapidtrades : anyone back to trading over there?
[2016-08-18 21:39:50] zanza : I have a big wire coming through it never showed up
[2016-08-18 21:39:57] zanza : no reply to my tickets
[2016-08-18 21:43:02] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2016-08-18 21:43:17] zanza : almost $50k its been 2 weeks now
[2016-08-18 21:43:21] zanza : im getting worried
[2016-08-18 21:45:02] rapidtrades : are u srs?
[2016-08-18 21:45:35] zanza : this was my last money , I had to borrow from family members I am screwed if something ahppens
[2016-08-18 21:46:58] rapidtrades : shit man,that sucks
[2016-08-18 21:47:18] rapidtrades : did u try getting in touch with ur bank and reversing it?
[2016-08-18 21:47:26] rapidtrades : banks wires can't go missing
[2016-08-18 22:01:01] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4ydqz7/is_ledger_labs_even_an_accredited_accounting_firm/
[2016-08-19 00:15:48] ett1 : what is cross leverage
[2016-08-19 00:50:54] zanza : im j/k i never used BitFinex
[2016-08-19 01:23:57] zanza : cross leverage means your full acct balance is used to margin
[2016-08-19 01:24:39] zanza : so you are least likely to be liquidated
[2016-08-19 02:36:28] rapidtrades : zanza: u polish weasel
[2016-08-19 03:03:42] Rado : lol
[2016-08-19 03:03:54] Rado : zanza you are not polish are you?
[2016-08-19 03:04:15] Rado : BTC so boring the last couple of days
[2016-08-19 03:05:54] rapidtrades : yeah we're gonna break out soon i think
[2016-08-19 03:06:36] rapidtrades : Rado: did u get a reply?
[2016-08-19 03:06:48] Rado : no
[2016-08-19 03:07:04] rapidtrades : it takes a while
[2016-08-19 03:10:18] rapidtrades : Rado: do u happen to know stu's email? their 'legal council'
[2016-08-19 03:10:38] rapidtrades : zane posted it like dozen times initially but now i can't find it anywhere
[2016-08-19 03:10:54] Rado : I don't
[2016-08-19 03:11:00] Rado : what is his full name?
[2016-08-19 03:11:07] rapidtrades : https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stuart-hoegner-bb67695
[2016-08-19 03:12:00] rapidtrades : i went thru this guy's post history and it seems he deleted the info idk https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-19 03:12:14] rapidtrades : went pretty far back
[2016-08-19 03:12:22] Rado : rapidtrades: stu@gamingcounsel.co
[2016-08-19 03:12:35] Rado : http://www.gamingcounsel.co/about/
[2016-08-19 03:13:36] rapidtrades : it was a different one i think with bitfinex prefix but guess that's fine too
[2016-08-19 03:13:38] rapidtrades : thanks
[2016-08-19 03:14:26] rapidtrades : it's frustrating how everyone is doing this on their own
[2016-08-19 03:14:44] Bittip : I am still confused here how to buy sell
[2016-08-19 03:14:55] Bittip : rapidtrades: hi
[2016-08-19 03:15:04] Bittip : will u guide me
[2016-08-19 03:15:13] Bittip : how to put and call
[2016-08-19 03:15:15] rapidtrades : sleger sent them legal request but didn't want to share any details...then yday that other guy was consulting with a lawyer
[2016-08-19 03:15:38] rapidtrades : now i will prolly have to pay smone too
[2016-08-19 03:15:52] rapidtrades : we keep wasting time and money
[2016-08-19 03:18:08] Bittip : rapidtrades: is this best one or just waste time
[2016-08-19 03:18:46] Bittip : rapidtrades: really I am confused and how to make profit here no guide line here
[2016-08-19 03:20:10] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: u have a new one here ^^^
[2016-08-19 03:20:43] rapidtrades : Bittip: sry man, preoccupied with smth else
[2016-08-19 03:26:53] zanza : Bittip: what contact do you want to trade?
[2016-08-19 03:27:24] Bittip : Btc but how
[2016-08-19 03:27:36] zanza : how what?
[2016-08-19 03:27:40] Bittip : and any coin that's give profit
[2016-08-19 03:27:56] Bittip : i like put call option
[2016-08-19 03:28:04] zanza : what country are you from ?
[2016-08-19 03:29:15] zanza : You buy XBT, if price goes UP you make money, if price goes DOWN you lose money
[2016-08-19 03:29:34] zanza : You sell XBT, if price goes down you make money, if price goes up you lose money
[2016-08-19 03:30:43] Bittip : zanza: how much I will lose and gain demo pls
[2016-08-19 03:31:28] zanza : use calculator
[2016-08-19 03:31:38] zanza : see "Place Order"
[2016-08-19 03:31:47] zanza : to the right of it is calculator
[2016-08-19 03:32:00] Bittip : I buy 10 @ 572 and if it hit @572.01
[2016-08-19 03:32:20] Bittip : i lose or win how huch I will win
[2016-08-19 03:32:30] zanza : use calculator
[2016-08-19 03:33:00] Bittip : zanza: where is is it
[2016-08-19 03:33:20] zanza : 20:31 - zanza: see "Place Order" 20:31 - zanza: to the right of it is calculator
[2016-08-19 03:33:46] zanza : above "stop market"
[2016-08-19 03:36:34] zanza : do you see it?
[2016-08-19 03:38:43] Bittip : zanza: I put it on cal 572 and 572.01 in fact it show me -.0174
[2016-08-19 03:38:47] Bittip : whats this
[2016-08-19 03:39:07] zanza : because there is fees
[2016-08-19 03:39:32] zanza : wait
[2016-08-19 03:39:56] zanza : LONG = CALL
[2016-08-19 03:40:01] zanza : SHORT = PUT
[2016-08-19 03:40:12] Bittip : What is long and short here
[2016-08-19 03:40:27] zanza : Entry Type: LongShort
[2016-08-19 03:40:35] zanza : LONG = Buy SHORT = Sell
[2016-08-19 03:41:12] Bittip : zanza: thanks for idea
[2016-08-19 03:41:45] zanza : you should do trades on https://testnet.bitmex.com/ to practice, it seems you are learning
[2016-08-19 03:41:46] Bittip : and what's traling stop
[2016-08-19 03:41:47] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Sam: why is .XBTBON8H 0.0727% when BFX bitcoin rate is been around 0.02% for the last 3 days , and the polo rate is even lower
[2016-08-19 03:43:14] zanza : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trailingstop.asp
[2016-08-19 03:45:10] zanza : The BitMEX .XBTBON8H Index is a 8-hour TWAP of the Bitcoin lending rate at Bitfinex ending at 12:00 UTC from the .XBTBON Index. These values are used for funding rates and are provided 8 hours in advance. billyboy402
[2016-08-19 03:46:56] billyboy402 : and the index here and the Kaiko is always out too , 575 on the index and bitmex index is 571
[2016-08-19 03:47:10] billyboy402 : https://www.kaiko.com/
[2016-08-19 03:47:23] billyboy402 : what was the reason why they dont use blocktrade.com
[2016-08-19 03:47:34] billyboy402 : tradeblock.com
[2016-08-19 03:48:15] zanza : Kaiko is 571 now
[2016-08-19 03:49:26] billyboy402 : strange , i just refresh and getting $575.61
[2016-08-19 03:50:01] billyboy402 : OkCoin - $572.70Bitfinex - $573.64BTC-e - $573.41Bitstamp - $570.88Coinbase - $575.03Kraken - $573.47Itbit - $573.23Gemini - $575.15Huobi - $572.91
[2016-08-19 03:50:09] zanza : fir XBT spot on the top ?
[2016-08-19 03:50:20] zanza : shows $571.79 for me now
[2016-08-19 03:50:31] zanza : might be a browser issue
[2016-08-19 03:50:32] billyboy402 : https://www.kaiko.com/ not on bitmex
[2016-08-19 03:50:57] zanza : BTC: $ 575.53
[2016-08-19 03:51:02] zanza : yeah i see it
[2016-08-19 03:52:30] billyboy402 : even tradebnlock ios 573
[2016-08-19 03:55:10] zanza : Kaiko has different indexes
[2016-08-19 03:55:47] zanza : China is like 576 so thats why the global is higher
[2016-08-19 03:55:59] micmix : billyboy402: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-19 03:56:43] billyboy402 : micmix: thx mate , I didnt know they use their own index
[2016-08-19 03:57:29] billyboy402 : strange they dont use more exchange to get better avg , OKCoin, Bitfinex and Bitstamp
[2016-08-19 03:57:34] micmix : billyboy402: BitMEX index is 50% bitstamp and 50% okcoin usd, and bitstamp is bearstamp as usual ;-)
[2016-08-19 03:57:44] billyboy402 : should add coinbase . btc-e
[2016-08-19 03:59:30] micmix : more exchanges is not always better. they had 5 exchanges in the index and it wasn't that good when coinbase was going crazy with $10 drops
[2016-08-19 04:00:11] micmix : they had finex in the index before the hack and it was working really well. 2 is not ideal
[2016-08-19 04:01:04] billyboy402 : with more exchange , when coinbase has $10 spike , it shouldnt inpack it too much
[2016-08-19 04:02:11] micmix : the index is volume based, so big sell on coinbase increases its weight
[2016-08-19 04:02:53] micmix : if finex stays solvent they will add it back and everything will be good again :-)
[2016-08-19 04:03:30] billyboy402 : haha , that comment , "IF"
[2016-08-19 04:04:13] micmix : zanza has to send more 50k wires to finex to help everyone ;-)
[2016-08-19 04:05:00] billyboy402 : what the short answer , if I am short , when do i pay and recive interest , Short , = pay when above index > recive = when price is below index ? ( or is it the other way around)
[2016-08-19 04:07:29] micmix : price above mark => premium positive => funding rate positive => longs pay, shorts receive
[2016-08-19 04:08:09] billyboy402 : micmix: cheers
[2016-08-19 04:09:14] billyboy402 : so when your long , you want it to be under index ... and when your short you want it to hold above index .....( so you dont have to pay fees
[2016-08-19 04:11:30] micmix : yeah, the idea is that you are paid to short when the price is above mark, and your short helps to keep the price down, closer to mark. and vice versa
[2016-08-19 06:22:36] Mm bot : Guess BTC breaks up or down next?
[2016-08-19 06:26:28] sq : Up
[2016-08-19 06:29:27] Bittip : billyboy402: I am till confused here pls help me to take profit and how do I closed
[2016-08-19 06:30:51] Bittip : Support check my trading
[2016-08-19 06:31:04] Bittip : i am in lose or profit
[2016-08-19 06:31:27] Bittip : and how to closed after taking profit
[2016-08-19 06:31:55] Bittip : its hard to understand here
[2016-08-19 06:32:12] Bittip : others option are dare and good
[2016-08-19 06:50:48] billyboy402 : Bittip: hey mate what question do you have
[2016-08-19 06:52:14] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: If you are long, then to close your position you sell
[2016-08-19 06:55:48] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: any way you can create notification for funding and rebalance , maybe 15 min before , kinda like when you open or close a trade chrome sent a pop up
[2016-08-19 07:12:34] BitMEX_Wally : Not a bad idea, I'll see what we can do
[2016-08-19 08:56:29] rapidtrades : look at those toekns flyyyyyyyyyyy
[2016-08-19 09:05:32] rapidtrades : what do u guys think about this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4ygcaq/lightningdev_clightning_04_released_wrights/
[2016-08-19 09:15:56] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: hi here now I am login will u guide me pls
[2016-08-19 09:20:01] rapidtrades : Bittip: did u try testnet
[2016-08-19 09:20:21] rapidtrades : https://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2016-08-19 09:20:53] rapidtrades : works with testnet bitcoins
[2016-08-19 10:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2000 @ 0.002853
[2016-08-19 10:14:49] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I am confused what to do
[2016-08-19 10:15:28] Bittip : REKT: will u guide how do I take profit
[2016-08-19 10:16:05] Bittip : REKT: what is rebalance
[2016-08-19 10:16:46] habibi : Bittip: everything is here https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2016-08-19 10:18:30] Bittip : habibi: did not understand this lesson
[2016-08-19 10:19:11] Bittip : let me demo I press on green 20usd @ 571.03
[2016-08-19 10:19:25] Bittip : and i want to now that I am in loss or profit
[2016-08-19 10:19:35] Bittip : Any help pls
[2016-08-19 10:19:48] Bittip : and in account that's rebalance
[2016-08-19 10:20:24] Tetsuo : Bittip: Rule No.1 - Don´t get REKT
[2016-08-19 10:21:00] Bittip : habibi: @Tetsuo ?
[2016-08-19 10:25:25] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: Look at your `Open Positions` tab. There are two columns, `Unrealised PNL` and `Realised PNL`. If positive then profit, if negative then loss
[2016-08-19 10:26:16] BitMEX_Wally : Your realised PNL might be slightly negative due to trading fees
[2016-08-19 10:27:19] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: in fact how do I take profit
[2016-08-19 10:27:32] BitMEX_Wally : If you are long, then sell
[2016-08-19 10:27:38] BitMEX_Wally : (at a price higher than you bought at)
[2016-08-19 10:27:55] Bittip : how much I will get profit
[2016-08-19 10:28:00] BitMEX_Wally : Depends what price you sell at
[2016-08-19 10:28:10] BitMEX_Wally : Up need the `Place Order` widget there is a calculator icon, click on that
[2016-08-19 10:28:12] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: and in account what is rebalance
[2016-08-19 10:28:25] BitMEX_Wally : Rebalance is how profit/loss is moved into your wallet
[2016-08-19 10:28:51] BitMEX_Wally : The pending rebalance in your wallet right now is the profit and loss for XBTUSD for the last 24 hours
[2016-08-19 10:30:13] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: and in when we be in PnL can we closed
[2016-08-19 10:33:10] BitMEX_Wally : You can always close your position
[2016-08-19 10:45:25] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: if I closed position in profit then can I have profit or what
[2016-08-19 10:46:24] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: ans me
[2016-08-19 10:47:44] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: if we closed in profit then can I have profit
[2016-08-19 10:48:56] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I bought in green 20 contract and how do I sell
[2016-08-19 10:52:41] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: I now u will ans me on time up
[2016-08-19 10:54:04] premjeraz : i have another question? how much there we paying fees? coz, im not getting now whats happend.... i had 21200 XBT contracts long with 571.58 $ with ~0.7BTC cost, sold everything for 572.03 (fill price) and now i see i have PNL -0.0775 XBT ..so that means i lost more than 10% of stake even techincally i had profit and shows withheld profit 0.0302 XBT . sorry, im little confused, please can anyone explain whats there happened///coz i th
[2016-08-19 10:54:57] rapidtrades : premjeraz: funding benefited shorts today
[2016-08-19 10:55:39] premjeraz : but this in next hour
[2016-08-19 10:55:55] rapidtrades : ah
[2016-08-19 10:56:31] rapidtrades : did u use market orders to get in and out or limit
[2016-08-19 10:57:00] premjeraz : limit
[2016-08-19 10:57:27] premjeraz : in and out i used limit
[2016-08-19 10:57:35] rapidtrades : thats weird
[2016-08-19 10:57:47] Bittip : Wasted my day at ponzy scam bitmex
[2016-08-19 10:58:36] premjeraz : yes, its weird.. maybe anyone from bitmex support can help me
[2016-08-19 10:59:29] Bittip : Hard here to understand ponzy scam
[2016-08-19 10:59:34] Bittip : othere are easy and best
[2016-08-19 11:01:16] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: pls any one guide me
[2016-08-19 11:02:27] premjeraz : i see i paid sell fee 0.025016, so its not 0.07
[2016-08-19 11:02:27] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: pls help me soon
[2016-08-19 11:02:46] Bittip : premjeraz: will u guide me pls
[2016-08-19 11:03:34] Bittip : premjeraz: I am seeing profit in rebalance what this
[2016-08-19 11:04:32] premjeraz : Bittip: sorry, i cant help u. now im trying to find answer
[2016-08-19 11:05:07] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: sir help need urgent
[2016-08-19 11:05:36] Bittip : I have taked all screen shot for future
[2016-08-19 11:06:10] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: can u explain
[2016-08-19 11:12:06] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: Try clicking the sell button to sell
[2016-08-19 11:12:41] BitMEX_Wally : You are seeing a pending profit in rebalance because the mark price is currently higher than your average buy price
[2016-08-19 11:13:11] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: sir in my panding position it's seeing me profit rebalance what's this
[2016-08-19 11:13:26] BitMEX_Wally : It's profit
[2016-08-19 11:13:43] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: how to take this profit
[2016-08-19 11:13:49] BitMEX_Wally : You bought at 571.76 and 570.31 and now the mark price is 572.45
[2016-08-19 11:13:51] BitMEX_Wally : Sell
[2016-08-19 11:14:06] premjeraz : BitMEX_Wally: please look up in to my message
[2016-08-19 11:14:18] Bittip : BitMEX_Wally: where to sell and how
[2016-08-19 11:14:37] BitMEX_Wally : Bittip: Do you remember how you bought?
[2016-08-19 11:14:45] BitMEX_Wally : There are 2 buttons, one says Buy and the other says Sell
[2016-08-19 11:14:56] Bittip : Yes
[2016-08-19 11:15:03] BitMEX_Wally : Put in quantity of 20 and click sell
[2016-08-19 11:15:23] BitMEX_Wally : premjeraz: Let me have a look