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[2016-08-14 13:34:15] rapidtrades : they still haven't replied to my email
[2016-08-14 13:34:28] Gemz : Guys is there any way, to know my liquidation price before opening a position?
[2016-08-14 13:34:32] Rado : No one else is doing a class action?
[2016-08-14 13:34:42] rapidtrades : not afaik
[2016-08-14 13:35:23] rapidtrades : all doing it individually atm
[2016-08-14 13:35:41] Rado : ok
[2016-08-14 13:38:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 11000 @ 568.53
[2016-08-14 13:39:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 566.65
[2016-08-14 13:39:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 40000 @ 566.97 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-14 13:39:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 80 @ 566.47
[2016-08-14 13:39:55] Rado : Any news related to BTC?
[2016-08-14 13:40:07] ayy_lmao : in this moment
[2016-08-14 13:40:10] ayy_lmao : i am euphoric
[2016-08-14 13:40:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1500 @ 566.37
[2016-08-14 13:41:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19500 @ 566.28
[2016-08-14 13:41:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 566.08
[2016-08-14 13:41:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5583 @ 565.89
[2016-08-14 13:42:26] ayy_lmao : everyone on finex too broke to sell lmao
[2016-08-14 13:42:43] ayy_lmao : rip finex volume
[2016-08-14 13:43:13] jan : why so dump on btc todaY ?
[2016-08-14 13:43:27] ayy_lmao : who knows
[2016-08-14 13:44:08] rapidtrades : lingering confidence hit from bitfinex, it will last for a while
[2016-08-14 13:44:37] rapidtrades : why specifically today...no clue
[2016-08-14 13:44:46] rapidtrades : bit surprising with tokens to high
[2016-08-14 13:47:53] Rado : Look at the 10k orders on BFX over 0.0007
[2016-08-14 13:49:14] rapidtrades : here or finex
[2016-08-14 13:50:21] rapidtrades : weird that they would step there..i thought more near 0.50
[2016-08-14 13:50:49] rapidtrades : lot of ppl would be happy to get out with <20% hit
[2016-08-14 13:53:37] macios15 : when btfinex will be add back to index?
[2016-08-14 13:54:02] zanza : what just happened?
[2016-08-14 13:56:38] rapidtrades : macios15: prolly never
[2016-08-14 14:07:30] Rado : macios15: never
[2016-08-14 14:07:48] Rado : zanza: what?
[2016-08-14 14:08:08] zanza : Bitcoin just dropped hard
[2016-08-14 14:08:42] justinlooking : would have dropped harder if china didnt put brakes on
[2016-08-14 14:33:37] Gemz : what a good price to buy btc
[2016-08-14 14:33:47] Gemz : i mean what is a good price to buy btc?
[2016-08-14 14:44:41] rapidtrades : whats a ggood image host
[2016-08-14 14:45:58] zanza : imgur
[2016-08-14 14:46:05] zanza : gemz what do you mean ?
[2016-08-14 14:48:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTCXBT`: Sell 850 @ 0.00638
[2016-08-14 14:49:39] nip : wow just looked at that liquidation order
[2016-08-14 14:49:50] nip : saw it move up multiple times in a row
[2016-08-14 14:50:45] rapidtrades : zanza: does it work with JPEG?
[2016-08-14 14:51:52] Rado : Why is the liq order moving?
[2016-08-14 14:54:17] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-14 14:54:32] justinlooking : rapidtrades: anony.ws
[2016-08-14 14:54:42] ayy_lmao : i assume its some type of algo that trys to minimize losses
[2016-08-14 14:59:40] jan : nip: can you share an link where i can see it (liq orderss)
[2016-08-14 15:04:24] Rado : jan: you can see the in the order book
[2016-08-14 15:04:29] Rado : highlighted in red
[2016-08-14 15:06:20] Hey : My bitcoins and my postion are are gone and i need to get in contact with someone
[2016-08-14 15:09:26] Hey : Bitmex whats going on?
[2016-08-14 15:10:01] Rado : Hey: check your trade history
[2016-08-14 15:10:06] Rado : did you get liquidated?
[2016-08-14 15:10:10] Hey : Shows nothing
[2016-08-14 15:10:40] Hey : I am from usa and i was using vpn not gonna lie
[2016-08-14 15:11:21] Hey : But they shoulda closed my postion and send me my bitcoins i believe is the policy
[2016-08-14 15:16:30] jan : ypu play long on btc ?
[2016-08-14 15:16:47] jan : Probobly it's liquidated
[2016-08-14 15:21:03] rapidtrades : steemit is the dumbest thing ever man
[2016-08-14 15:21:11] rapidtrades : hoope it burns in hell
[2016-08-14 15:21:39] ett1 : steemit is the twitter of blockchain
[2016-08-14 15:23:43] rapidtrades : ett1: f*ck you and f*ck steemit
[2016-08-14 15:23:48] rapidtrades : how about dem apples
[2016-08-14 15:25:47] rapidtrades : nvm it was my fault
[2016-08-14 15:31:11] ett1 : i swear, 95% of times i read trollbox, rapidtrades is online aggravating sombody
[2016-08-14 15:32:10] pigeons : it was the steemit guy aggravating, not rapidtrades
[2016-08-14 15:32:43] pigeons : oops there was no steemit guy
[2016-08-14 15:33:00] ett1 : i like rapidtrades. but first impression (for a while) was hes a dick
[2016-08-14 15:33:12] ett1 : hes good
[2016-08-14 15:33:20] pigeons : yeah :)
[2016-08-14 15:51:11] rapidtrades : yeah i have a bit of temper
[2016-08-14 15:59:09] Krog : steemit is the web 2.0 of the blockchain. Nobody liked it then but it's here to stay
[2016-08-14 16:00:55] laisee : ett1: rapidtrades adds color to trollbox. miss the good ol' days him byatching away at Slager (sp) & vice verse
[2016-08-14 16:05:00] rapidtrades : man trading BFX coin here is like hotel california
[2016-08-14 16:05:30] rapidtrades : once u get in there's no getting out
[2016-08-14 16:06:21] pigeons : these account/withdraw freezings might push the lawsuits/liquidations they are trying to avoid
[2016-08-14 16:06:57] rapidtrades : yeah i think a lot of their decision are made on the fly
[2016-08-14 16:07:04] herpinator : in trade history does the value displayed have the fee taken from it already?
[2016-08-14 16:07:19] rapidtrades : lot of emotion too....they really hit hard with troll accounts on reddit
[2016-08-14 16:07:51] laisee : rapidtrades: ur trading BFX? thought u checked out of that motel
[2016-08-14 16:08:00] rapidtrades : they gambled that if they got up quick ppl will just forget about it and continue to trade
[2016-08-14 16:08:06] rapidtrades : laisee: it was 5% discount
[2016-08-14 16:08:26] rapidtrades : it's very small amount too
[2016-08-14 16:08:27] pigeons : well it was worth a shot
[2016-08-14 16:08:57] laisee : rapidtrades: a rebound trade?
[2016-08-14 16:09:22] rapidtrades : laisee: i'm just hoping for the discount to close but the MMers are not having it :)
[2016-08-14 16:09:52] laisee : yeah, they are not folowing exchange very closely
[2016-08-14 16:10:15] rapidtrades : they're prolly holding a lot of longs
[2016-08-14 16:10:39] rapidtrades : i mean they're long a lot :)
[2016-08-14 16:11:05] laisee : could be. someone bought all that teldar paper
[2016-08-14 16:11:20] rapidtrades : laisee: are u on a phone?
[2016-08-14 16:11:43] laisee : wifi, osx
[2016-08-14 16:11:55] rapidtrades : what's teldar paper
[2016-08-14 16:12:32] laisee : greed is good
[2016-08-14 16:12:34] laisee : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Da1tDKFfno
[2016-08-14 16:12:56] laisee : wonder how many VPs @ BFX
[2016-08-14 16:13:11] laisee : or CXOs
[2016-08-14 16:18:33] daveberns1 : wow, BFX appreciation means speculation upon BFX's future solvency
[2016-08-14 16:18:54] daveberns1 : .37 seems like modestly strong sentiment
[2016-08-14 16:19:07] daveberns1 : *positive
[2016-08-14 16:19:12] daveberns1 : surprised...
[2016-08-14 16:23:38] laisee : daveberns1: its pretty cool if u can sell options (or coins) betting on your companies liquidity, right when u need cash
[2016-08-14 16:24:25] zanza : CHEAP COINZ GUYS
[2016-08-14 16:24:40] laisee : going out of business Coins sale
[2016-08-14 16:25:02] daveberns1 : ya, if they buy back their coins then they essentially can wipe out their debt at a massive discount
[2016-08-14 16:25:48] laisee : financial engineering at its best/worse
[2016-08-14 16:26:15] rapidtrades : BOJ now owns 60% of the EFT market
[2016-08-14 16:26:19] rapidtrades : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-14/the-tokyo-whale-s-unstoppable-rise-to-shareholder-no-1-in-japan
[2016-08-14 16:28:43] laisee : print fake money, buy real assets. nice.
[2016-08-14 16:37:36] daveberns1 : is liquidation based on mark or last?
[2016-08-14 16:38:10] justinlooking : mark
[2016-08-14 16:38:31] daveberns1 : good
[2016-08-14 16:41:07] zanza : didnt BOJ buy ARM ?
[2016-08-14 16:43:17] laisee : zanza: partly, I guess
[2016-08-14 17:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 70 @ 0.01979
[2016-08-14 17:23:49] Krog : What's the total commision on a trade?
[2016-08-14 17:25:49] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-08-14 17:25:59] Krog : Gracias
[2016-08-14 18:28:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 29100 @ 565.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-14 18:28:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 565.39 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-14 18:50:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6300 @ 562.96
[2016-08-14 18:51:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 900 @ 598.64
[2016-08-14 18:51:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 318 @ 597.74
[2016-08-14 18:51:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2848 @ 561.37
[2016-08-14 18:51:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 425 @ 560.81
[2016-08-14 18:51:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 21000 @ 561.39 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-14 18:51:49] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 561.46
[2016-08-14 18:51:49] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-08-14 18:53:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 560.52
[2016-08-14 18:53:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 90 @ 560.55
[2016-08-14 18:54:47] bernx : BitMEX_Wally: wtf with ETH?
[2016-08-14 18:55:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3600 @ 559.79
[2016-08-14 19:13:14] jan : I'm feel like a donor f...
[2016-08-14 19:16:08] zanza : cheap coinz guys
[2016-08-14 19:31:13] rullwull : would be cheaper in 5-6 hours
[2016-08-14 19:33:35] mike1000 : rullwull: elliott wave 5 coming?
[2016-08-14 19:34:25] rapidtrades : f*ck Elliot and his waves
[2016-08-14 19:38:24] Rado : rapidtrades: ew is a made up science
[2016-08-14 19:38:32] Rado : it doesn't work
[2016-08-14 19:38:47] Rado : but people defend it with all they got
[2016-08-14 19:45:57] rapidtrades : maybe mike here can make it work? too discretionary for me
[2016-08-14 19:46:34] rapidtrades : guys watch bitfinex sites etc
[2016-08-14 19:46:46] rapidtrades : i think announcemnt is coming
[2016-08-14 19:47:23] rapidtrades : smth is up....bfxcoin is up and this f*cker hasn't posted in 2 days https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-14 19:48:10] rapidtrades : i think some time tonight early morning
[2016-08-14 19:48:31] Rado : Short term bottom here
[2016-08-14 19:48:44] Rado : what BFX price?
[2016-08-14 19:49:11] Rado : What is
[2016-08-14 19:52:06] rapidtrades : 39 cents...cant u see it
[2016-08-14 19:54:59] justinlooking : http://anony.ws/image/NbYb
[2016-08-14 19:57:28] rapidtrades : anony.ws ....sounds like a legit site
[2016-08-14 19:58:32] rullwull : https://cryptowat.ch/bitfinex/bfxusd
[2016-08-14 19:58:49] rullwull : https://cryptowat.ch/bitfinex/bfxbtc
[2016-08-14 19:58:52] justinlooking : is imgur but less spammy
[2016-08-14 20:00:48] rapidtrades : how so?
[2016-08-14 20:01:25] rapidtrades : man i'll never get out of this bfxcoin trade am I
[2016-08-14 20:02:11] rapidtrades : the announcement could be just a ploy to keep ppl from selling their tokens and panicking
[2016-08-14 20:02:25] rapidtrades : it may never happen...nothing will surprise me from finex
[2016-08-14 20:04:59] rapidtrades : i need to make spaghetti one of these days...takeaway spaghetti tastes sub-par and looks like vomit
[2016-08-14 20:06:09] Rado : Was to lazy to switch :)
[2016-08-14 20:06:24] Rado : i was on xbtusd and etcbtc
[2016-08-14 20:10:42] rapidtrades : very volatile token
[2016-08-14 20:10:59] rapidtrades : at least its going from left to right :)
[2016-08-14 20:21:00] rapidtrades : smth is up man...these ppl are snakes i'm telling u
[2016-08-14 20:21:18] rapidtrades : probably spilled the beans to their friends ir buying themselves
[2016-08-14 20:25:50] aethlios : bfx 0.4 again, lets go for 0.5
[2016-08-14 20:27:41] rapidtrades : dam smone snatched those :)
[2016-08-14 20:27:52] Rado : I have sell orders at 0.0008
[2016-08-14 20:28:02] rapidtrades : whats that in real money
[2016-08-14 20:29:00] rapidtrades : 45 cents? kinda low
[2016-08-14 20:30:51] rapidtrades : wht was the highest today?
[2016-08-14 20:30:56] rapidtrades : on finex
[2016-08-14 20:32:26] aethlios : 0.4103 high
[2016-08-14 20:32:48] rapidtrades : aethlios: tnx man..and the all time high?
[2016-08-14 20:33:27] aethlios : no chart to check byt remember 0.42 around
[2016-08-14 20:33:54] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-08-14 20:34:22] rapidtrades : is there chart other then crypto watch? that site doesn't play well with my pc
[2016-08-14 20:34:39] aethlios : tradingview chat people say about an announcement soon.
[2016-08-14 20:34:50] rapidtrades : i knew it...
[2016-08-14 20:38:29] Rado : rapidtrades: it was 0.5, but now lower because of BTC price
[2016-08-14 20:38:44] Rado : i am selling for BTC, nit USD
[2016-08-14 20:38:50] Rado : not
[2016-08-14 20:39:04] Rado : they buy back at 0.0005
[2016-08-14 20:39:19] Rado : At least that's the plan
[2016-08-14 20:39:43] Rado : most of the time it doesn't work:)
[2016-08-14 20:42:54] rapidtrades : this token shit is the craziest scheme in crypto
[2016-08-14 20:44:00] rapidtrades : wonder what they'll think of next
[2016-08-14 20:49:08] zanza : hey guys Bitcoin is on sale
[2016-08-14 20:54:47] 4lph4 : zanza: lawl
[2016-08-14 20:57:47] aethlios : quiet days to all major coins btc, ltc, eth, etc.
[2016-08-14 21:03:19] justinlooking : if it dumps much further i may to list a kidney on open bazaar or sth
[2016-08-14 21:04:25] elmorte : Issue a token for your kidneys
[2016-08-14 21:04:31] elmorte : We could trade it here
[2016-08-14 21:04:37] justinlooking : lol
[2016-08-14 21:04:43] mike1000 : haha
[2016-08-14 21:06:35] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-08-14 21:09:57] aethlios : first 10 leaderboard traders could issue a token, receive funding in btc selling the token, and pay holders 70% of their trading profits in bitmex. tokens will be tradeable based on the consistency of the profits from the issuers. I am on the leaderboard and I am thinking of it. unprofitable traders could use their capital to make profit buying the token.
[2016-08-14 21:10:38] aethlios : like the idea???
[2016-08-14 21:10:51] rapidtrades : asshole i thought that was the actual announcement
[2016-08-14 21:11:02] rapidtrades : i almost had a heart attack :)
[2016-08-14 21:15:55] mike1000 : I came up with an idea, to create a gadget that will take your poo and use it's decomposing energy to mine a coin, SustainableShitCoin. This will disrupt the whole economy as well as clean up the sewers.
[2016-08-14 21:17:02] 4lph4 : mike1000: all you need now is a whitepaper
[2016-08-14 21:17:42] elmorte : I have a couple of rolls of 3ply TP
[2016-08-14 21:25:04] mike1000 : Tear-off paper wallets will be distributed to early adopters for sure. ICO is going to be held at rate of 1 kg of SustainableShit / 1 BFX Token.
[2016-08-14 21:26:24] zanza : where can I invest in the ICO mike1000 ?
[2016-08-14 21:26:46] mike1000 : At your local WC my friend
[2016-08-14 21:27:33] mike1000 : Just install our gadget down the drain.
[2016-08-14 21:28:11] aethlios : mike1000: this could be pumped hard from whales....
[2016-08-14 21:29:05] 4lph4 : aethlios: don't want to imagine that scenario..
[2016-08-14 21:36:21] elmorte : I'm conflicted...would a dump = pump?
[2016-08-14 21:47:15] mike1000 : elmorte: yeah, this is the unprecedented kind of positive feedback that will make us all shoot it to the moon
[2016-08-14 22:17:45] I-am-Legend : when you close contracts to close position ur buying & selling orderbook
[2016-08-14 22:17:52] I-am-Legend : on eth short & long
[2016-08-14 22:18:15] I-am-Legend : when they rebalance do they use orderbook or mark price
[2016-08-14 22:19:13] I-am-Legend : do u get charged fees only one time in ur trade or everytime bitmex rebalances they charge frees ?
[2016-08-14 22:20:37] nip : I-am-Legend: mark, and no fees
[2016-08-14 22:22:41] I-am-Legend : cool thanks im at over 40% ROE on my 2 trades .. didnt want to see big fees after rebalance
[2016-08-14 22:44:48] jan : they sad it's 0.0296% fee only
[2016-08-14 23:22:16] Rado : BFX keeps going
[2016-08-14 23:22:21] Rado : 0.000735
[2016-08-14 23:37:34] rapidtrades : We are hoping that our efforts and commitment to repaying our users will keep any legal action against BitFinex to a minimum and also that anybody contemplating legal action will see that the outcome may well be that they would actually receive a lot less than we are offering due to the high costs of legal fees and that there would also be a considerable delay in receiving funds
[2016-08-14 23:37:41] rapidtrades : yep good luck with that
[2016-08-14 23:38:23] rapidtrades : this was posted by an obv bitfinex shill account https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xojmg/here_is_the_response_to_the_multiple_questions_i/
[2016-08-14 23:39:31] rapidtrades : they're hoping they won't get sued or if they do they're gonna try to delay
[2016-08-14 23:41:23] rapidtrades : they still don't have a plan about anything
[2016-08-14 23:43:14] rapidtrades : meanwhile total silence from zane https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-14 23:46:33] rapidtrades : that's prolly the best we're gonna get today....a post by a 11d old reddit account claiming to received an email from support
[2016-08-14 23:47:00] rapidtrades : just notice how fishy that start looks...why would any support write that at the top lol
[2016-08-14 23:47:28] rapidtrades : Apologies for the length of our reply , I started writing this as a reply to your specific concerns but then realised that this may be something that a number of users may be interested in hearing and so have expanded it a bit but at the same time have hopefully addressed your points, please see the below:-
[2016-08-14 23:48:03] rapidtrades : SMTH A NUMBER OF OUR USERS MAY BE INTERESTED IN...LIKE REDDIT???
[2016-08-14 23:48:23] rapidtrades : f*cking ahole hiding under a rock
[2016-08-14 23:50:14] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed that is very odd wording
[2016-08-14 23:51:15] BitMEX_Sam : Doesn't seem like a shill after going through history though
[2016-08-14 23:52:06] rapidtrades : he is tho...look at this post i made 2 days ago
[2016-08-14 23:54:24] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xdce2/doing_these_three_things_wouldve_avoided_90_of/d6f97f0
[2016-08-14 23:55:30] rapidtrades : he seems too dedicated and vicious to be a regular troll....especially going after everyone that mentions suing
[2016-08-14 23:56:34] pigeons : that's not how you convince people not to sue you
[2016-08-14 23:56:56] rapidtrades : he's just pissing me off even more
[2016-08-15 00:14:31] Rado : he is getting paid probably
[2016-08-15 00:17:15] Rado : shit coin 0.00076
[2016-08-15 01:18:42] I-am-Legend : how do i close a position im short eth in profit
[2016-08-15 01:18:58] I-am-Legend : do u just just buy contracts like a normal short ?
[2016-08-15 01:19:41] smagin07 : yup
[2016-08-15 01:19:42] I-am-Legend : i put in two orders in the book less than my current position got message saying if these orders get hit i will be liquidated ???
[2016-08-15 01:20:01] I-am-Legend : short 2k
[2016-08-15 01:20:08] I-am-Legend : put in orders for 1k
[2016-08-15 01:20:12] smagin07 : buy 2000 at the price you wanT
[2016-08-15 01:20:14] I-am-Legend : to buy
[2016-08-15 01:20:45] I-am-Legend : yeah i put some in book
[2016-08-15 01:20:59] I-am-Legend : so just same a closing a short on polo or finex ?
[2016-08-15 01:26:31] rapidtrades : hey so if i want to hedge my BFX long here do i sell the equivalent amount on finex? if long 100 sell 100 over there
[2016-08-15 01:26:54] rapidtrades : mms don't seem interested in closing this gap
[2016-08-15 01:31:37] nip : how do you hedge a long using a market where you cant short?
[2016-08-15 01:35:27] rapidtrades : they converted my assets to shitokens
[2016-08-15 02:26:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 16000 @ 58158.0
[2016-08-15 02:37:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 5790 @ 0.003973
[2016-08-15 03:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 300 @ 0.004028
[2016-08-15 06:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 169 @ 0.003920
[2016-08-15 06:30:40] NickBit : ETH not moving much :(
[2016-08-15 06:30:49] NickBit : So far I lost like $3-4k lol
[2016-08-15 07:17:15] rapidtrades : good morning
[2016-08-15 07:17:40] rapidtrades : would u say that the odds of bitfinex declaring bunkruptsy are 59%?
[2016-08-15 07:26:48] Boontjie : rapidtrades: Its not bankruptcy you should be worrying about, its whether they will honor their agreement
[2016-08-15 07:27:38] Boontjie : The argument that they are trying to discount their debt, by buying tokens at less than par seems valid.
[2016-08-15 07:28:31] rapidtrades : the tokens are not a debt instrument...says right there in the TOS
[2016-08-15 07:29:02] rapidtrades : even if they bought them all, it doesn't absolve them of the responsibility to pay us back
[2016-08-15 07:29:04] Boontjie : You are getting a promise to get the money back at $1 per token, or shares
[2016-08-15 07:29:17] rapidtrades : no you're not
[2016-08-15 07:29:47] Boontjie : Then what are you getting?
[2016-08-15 07:29:57] rapidtrades : nothing
[2016-08-15 07:30:23] Boontjie : Then why ask the bankrupty Q
[2016-08-15 07:30:27] rapidtrades : like it says in the TOS, they don't obligate them anything and don't release them from any obligation
[2016-08-15 07:30:53] rapidtrades : Boontjie: because their assets <liabilities
[2016-08-15 07:31:28] rapidtrades : i was wondering if the token value can be used as a proxy for the odds of bankruptsy
[2016-08-15 07:33:34] Boontjie : Its the market view I guess
[2016-08-15 07:35:00] Boontjie : It is probability of getting back 40% of the assets. So 40% * 0.4 is a 16% of bankrupcy
[2016-08-15 07:35:21] Boontjie : Or to be exact 36.06% * 0.4121
[2016-08-15 07:35:32] rapidtrades : i think this post by unoffical bitfinex account todd suggests we're not gonna get the token announcement soon https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xojmg/here_is_the_response_to_the_multiple_questions_i/
[2016-08-15 07:36:55] rapidtrades : Boontjie: hmm good point...although the only way u are going to get the face value of these things is if they stay in business
[2016-08-15 07:37:39] Boontjie : Yes, but they only need 36.06% to stay in business
[2016-08-15 07:38:12] rapidtrades : not necessarily...legal costs will skyrocket
[2016-08-15 07:38:28] Boontjie : Yes and the token recovery will drop
[2016-08-15 07:39:11] rapidtrades : it's just amazing to me that they're not taking a buyout offer
[2016-08-15 07:39:28] rapidtrades : they had to have gotten one...they were n1 before the hack and profitable
[2016-08-15 07:39:58] rapidtrades : maybe they have some to hide idk
[2016-08-15 07:40:08] Boontjie : If there is a buyout offer and they didnt take it I would leave the exchange forever
[2016-08-15 07:40:37] Boontjie : They will not be comitted to making customers whole. Just their own pockets
[2016-08-15 07:40:49] rapidtrades : im gone except for my tokens...can't trust this management
[2016-08-15 07:41:04] rapidtrades : if they get taken over and liquidity is back, sure ill go back
[2016-08-15 07:41:51] Boontjie : I am more worried about the Bitcoinica backend, that thing is not safe
[2016-08-15 07:42:02] Boontjie : That whole platform needs to be rebuilt
[2016-08-15 07:42:27] rapidtrades : agree it was next to impossible to trade during high load
[2016-08-15 07:43:13] Boontjie : Yes, I remember those days not well. Where they told you not to press the close button multiple times
[2016-08-15 07:43:22] Boontjie : not too fondly*
[2016-08-15 07:43:54] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-08-15 07:46:14] rapidtrades : in retrospect the only good thing about bitfinex was the liquidity
[2016-08-15 07:46:22] rapidtrades : platorm was shit, fees high
[2016-08-15 07:46:30] Boontjie : And the margin funding
[2016-08-15 07:46:34] rapidtrades : aaah yes
[2016-08-15 07:46:37] Boontjie : The rates were quite high
[2016-08-15 07:46:59] rapidtrades : that was one of the few places ameros can trade on margin
[2016-08-15 07:47:16] Boontjie : Not anymore :)
[2016-08-15 08:53:33] rapidtrades : lol this image https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/cK9odHfLhX3m6uhb_cD_UAmct3Jlh-rlzET2bWdhvvk.jpg
[2016-08-15 09:19:34] rapidtrades : http://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-bitfinex-idUSKCN10Q0DQ
[2016-08-15 10:59:15] I-am-Legend : hey guys when you close contracts on eth short or classic long ur base does not improve
[2016-08-15 10:59:27] I-am-Legend : does that mean the profit just gets locked up ?
[2016-08-15 11:06:35] rapidtrades : profit does get locked up but I'm not sure if that's why your base doesn't imrpove
[2016-08-15 11:08:55] I-am-Legend : why u have unrealized profit
[2016-08-15 11:09:37] I-am-Legend : if u start to sell the contracts at that price the profit ur in sho go from unrealised to realised
[2016-08-15 11:19:33] rapidtrades : support? where u at?
[2016-08-15 11:19:56] rapidtrades : anyone used coinigy?
[2016-08-15 11:21:44] rapidtrades : coinigy is could-based....jezz tnx guy
[2016-08-15 11:24:18] rapidtrades : can't believe this shit is web based too...wtf is the point then
[2016-08-15 11:33:09] I-am-Legend : lol no mods
[2016-08-15 11:33:12] zanza : SPY 2200 this week ?
[2016-08-15 11:33:24] I-am-Legend : fuk spy
[2016-08-15 11:35:08] rapidtrades : yeah im long sp500
[2016-08-15 11:35:45] rapidtrades : it's a bitch to trade for me tho....too rangey
[2016-08-15 11:40:10] sq : rapidtrades: is cionigy good?
[2016-08-15 11:40:30] rapidtrades : idk i was just asking that
[2016-08-15 11:43:20] jesperf : if you type bitmex and press tab you'll know if someone from the team is here
[2016-08-15 11:57:55] I-am-Legend : we have rebalance in 4 mins
[2016-08-15 11:58:16] I-am-Legend : when they rebalance what price do they use
[2016-08-15 11:58:40] I-am-Legend : so if im in eth short in profit is it better to close before rebalance or wait till after?
[2016-08-15 12:00:49] I-am-Legend : do they use ticker price ?
[2016-08-15 12:00:57] I-am-Legend : for rebalance ?
[2016-08-15 12:06:28] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: rebalance is using markPrice at rebalance time
[2016-08-15 12:07:04] I-am-Legend : so its better to allow rebalance if your in profit when short,
[2016-08-15 12:07:17] I-am-Legend : get better price compared to orderbook
[2016-08-15 12:07:52] I-am-Legend : but base price now is mark price of rebalance
[2016-08-15 12:09:09] I-am-Legend : when you close contracts in profit ? does the urealised profit become realised as u close those contracts
[2016-08-15 12:09:14] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: yes the unrealisedPnl is based on the rebalanced price
[2016-08-15 12:09:36] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: yes
[2016-08-15 12:09:43] billyboy402 : I-am-Legend: but yea , ig you are in profit , you should place a limit order and recive a rebate .... + dont have to pay the rebalance fee
[2016-08-15 12:10:15] I-am-Legend : wooo there is rebalance fee?
[2016-08-15 12:10:36] I-am-Legend : so everytime books rebalance bitmex charging commission
[2016-08-15 12:10:40] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: No rebalance fee
[2016-08-15 12:11:07] I-am-Legend : billy just said rebalance fee maybe he means funding
[2016-08-15 12:11:18] I-am-Legend : im short so im getting interest
[2016-08-15 12:11:49] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: if the funding rate is positive, you will get funding for your short
[2016-08-15 12:11:55] I-am-Legend : jin if you close ur contracts before funding do you stay receive the interest
[2016-08-15 12:12:33] I-am-Legend : so what comission do i pay y to you during a short trade
[2016-08-15 12:12:57] BitMEX_Jinming : If you closed your position before funding time, you don't receive or pay funding
[2016-08-15 12:13:06] I-am-Legend : only maker - taker fess or other commission to ?
[2016-08-15 12:13:26] I-am-Legend : ok so u only get funding on rebalance
[2016-08-15 12:13:29] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: only maker/taker fee on each trade
[2016-08-15 12:13:37] I-am-Legend : ok
[2016-08-15 12:13:59] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: you get funding on each funding time, which is every 8 hour
[2016-08-15 12:14:08] I-am-Legend : so now im still in position unrealised pnl became relized
[2016-08-15 12:14:22] I-am-Legend : so now in loss due to new base price
[2016-08-15 12:14:39] I-am-Legend : is the pnl based on ticker price >
[2016-08-15 12:15:26] jesperf : also based on mark price
[2016-08-15 12:15:51] I-am-Legend : what is a post-only order ?
[2016-08-15 12:16:05] I-am-Legend : hidden means u cant see it get that but what is post only
[2016-08-15 12:16:25] jesperf : it prevents you from selling/buying into the market
[2016-08-15 12:16:29] jesperf : to avoid taker fees
[2016-08-15 12:17:06] I-am-Legend : ohh so if u put post only & price moves a lot as u press order it wont go in if u get take fees ?
[2016-08-15 12:17:26] jesperf : correct
[2016-08-15 12:17:29] I-am-Legend : so using post u could find hidden orders
[2016-08-15 12:17:49] I-am-Legend : cause if something there u wont be able to go in
[2016-08-15 12:18:08] jesperf : i don't think so
[2016-08-15 12:18:25] jesperf : because hidden orders always take the taker fee
[2016-08-15 12:19:05] jesperf : so it would execute immediately and you would still only have to pay the maker fee
[2016-08-15 12:19:14] I-am-Legend : yeah was thinking that.. he gets fees always
[2016-08-15 12:20:36] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: jesperf is correct
[2016-08-15 12:21:17] I-am-Legend : does the funding % change all the time
[2016-08-15 12:21:30] I-am-Legend : so now eth 0.133%
[2016-08-15 12:21:46] I-am-Legend : is that on ur entire order
[2016-08-15 12:22:28] I-am-Legend : so on 1000 short u would get 1.3contracts of interest
[2016-08-15 12:22:48] rapidtrades : jesperf: dam that's a neat trick
[2016-08-15 12:23:04] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: charge for your position
[2016-08-15 12:23:33] rapidtrades : zanza: sup
[2016-08-15 12:24:42] I-am-Legend : jin the funding interest on 1000 contracts is it 1.3 contracts now for a short on eth
[2016-08-15 12:24:51] I-am-Legend : current rate 0.133
[2016-08-15 12:27:24] rapidtrades : dam guys okc sept futures at $2 discount
[2016-08-15 12:27:38] rapidtrades : well 1.5$
[2016-08-15 12:27:47] rapidtrades : don't think i've seen anything like that
[2016-08-15 12:28:14] rapidtrades : except briefly during crashes...but we're flat now
[2016-08-15 12:34:20] rapidtrades : sentiment in the toilet
[2016-08-15 12:38:41] BitMEX_Jinming : I-am-Legend: correct.
[2016-08-15 13:05:44] I-am-Legend : what is the maker & taker fees for eth
[2016-08-15 13:05:50] I-am-Legend : keep changing
[2016-08-15 13:06:03] I-am-Legend : anyone know current maker taker fees on eth
[2016-08-15 13:06:27] BitMEX_Sam : I-am-Legend: They haven't changed in a long time
[2016-08-15 13:06:32] BitMEX_Wally : The maker/taker fees are the same for ETC and ETH: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2016-08-15 13:07:59] I-am-Legend : so maker paying 0.025% so on a 1000 contracts that would be 0,25eth ?
[2016-08-15 13:08:52] I-am-Legend : wally why did u add lisk its a sleeping coin with no volume on polo
[2016-08-15 13:09:53] BitMEX_Sam : Makers receive a rebate, they don't pay fees.
[2016-08-15 13:12:41] I-am-Legend : im talking about your commission, you pay that only one time on closing position
[2016-08-15 13:12:55] I-am-Legend : 0.025% ?
[2016-08-15 13:13:10] I-am-Legend : for eth maker
[2016-08-15 13:14:36] BitMEX_Wally : It does not matter if you are opening or closing a posiiton
[2016-08-15 13:14:50] BitMEX_Wally : If you post a limit order and wait for it to be filled then you get paid (i..e receive) 0.025%
[2016-08-15 13:18:11] I-am-Legend : wally im confused so you maker taker fees go to the trader >
[2016-08-15 13:18:20] I-am-Legend : so how does bitmex make money
[2016-08-15 13:18:31] BitMEX_Wally : We charge the taker 0.075% and pay the maker 0.025%
[2016-08-15 13:18:33] BitMEX_Wally : So we get 0.05%
[2016-08-15 13:19:03] I-am-Legend : woooo why does the taker get the 0.025
[2016-08-15 13:19:21] BitMEX_Wally : They don't
[2016-08-15 13:19:22] I-am-Legend : nothing to do with funding right thats separate
[2016-08-15 13:19:26] BitMEX_Wally : The maker gets 0.025%
[2016-08-15 13:19:30] I-am-Legend : maker sorry yeah
[2016-08-15 13:19:35] BitMEX_Wally : To encourage market makers to provide liquidity
[2016-08-15 13:20:14] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: Since i last me depoist 2 day ago , i have open 2 trade which have been both profitable ..... now that i have close every thing , why cant i only withdraw less then i despoist 2 days ago
[2016-08-15 13:20:40] billyboy402 : with heald profit is 0.0993 ....
[2016-08-15 13:20:42] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: You can see your wallet history here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-08-15 13:21:32] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: that is what i am looking at , I deposit 2.00 BTC , i have made a profit of 0.0993 .... but i cant even withdraw 2.00 BTC out
[2016-08-15 13:21:45] billyboy402 : Available Balance 1.9886 XBT
[2016-08-15 13:21:48] I-am-Legend : looool too funny
[2016-08-15 13:21:59] I-am-Legend : 0.09 profit..
[2016-08-15 13:22:23] billyboy402 : I should be able to withdraw the whole 2.00 that i deposit
[2016-08-15 13:23:07] billyboy402 : I-am-Legend: would you like to donate some butcoin to me ?
[2016-08-15 13:23:37] I-am-Legend : no man why ur going to lose it fast ..
[2016-08-15 13:24:05] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Profit is withheld until after the daily rebalance
[2016-08-15 13:24:08] billyboy402 : I-am-Legend: well you cant comment how much I am making then can you big boy :P
[2016-08-15 13:24:49] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Wally: yea I understand that , but you should be able to withdraw your inital deppoist
[2016-08-15 13:25:56] I-am-Legend : no i dont need to u did already , u deposited 2 btc & made a very profitable trade with 0.09btc profit & now u cant even get 2 btx out loooooolz most funny thing i ever seen in trading chat.. u made nothing but call it profit
[2016-08-15 13:26:49] billyboy402 : I-am-Legend: I think your confussesed mate , should i be calling it a "lost "
[2016-08-15 13:29:22] I-am-Legend : ur confused not me lol.. u said u made profit on ur 2btc of 0.09 which is like 50$ but now u got less than 2btc lolz.. where is ur profit if u got less
[2016-08-15 13:32:46] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: You deposited 2 XBT and can withdraw 1.9886486 XBT. The other 0.09 XBT can be withdrawn after rebalance in 22.5 hours
[2016-08-15 13:33:23] billyboy402 : strange , I guess you take the Fee before every thing else
[2016-08-15 13:33:25] BitMEX_Wally : You paid some fees but made it back in profit, which is the 0.0113513 XBT difference between withdrawable and your profit
[2016-08-15 13:33:31] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-08-15 13:34:41] billyboy402 : lol user should get the money first befor the exchange take there fees lol , i have 0.0879 profit ,,,, i should be able to take 2.00 out and then in 22 hours , you pay me 0.0679 back lol
[2016-08-15 13:35:48] billyboy402 : the premium index suck . is just forces user to gamble more offen , then take long term trades
[2016-08-15 13:36:31] rapidtrades : imgur taking forever to upload?
[2016-08-15 13:36:40] billyboy402 : any chance you after the 330 sep , are you going to run another 3 months qlt contrats ?
[2016-08-15 13:36:48] rapidtrades : +!
[2016-08-15 13:36:49] BitMEX_Wally : The premium index is there to keep the swap price trading around the underlying spot price
[2016-08-15 13:36:51] rapidtrades : +1
[2016-08-15 13:37:11] billyboy402 : rapidtrades: too many user uploading titts photo
[2016-08-15 13:37:14] rapidtrades : ^^^ that was for another quaterly quanto
[2016-08-15 13:38:08] billyboy402 : Yea , I cant remember if there going to keep the Quanto qtly , i dont care about short term , I rather hedge
[2016-08-15 13:38:21] rapidtrades : i keep getting failed to create post...wtf imgur u shit
[2016-08-15 13:42:14] jesperf : rapidtrades: if imgur is shit, all other image hosting sites are radioactive shit that also stabs you in the mouth
[2016-08-15 13:42:40] zanza : imgur is pretty simple to use
[2016-08-15 13:48:40] justinlooking : you got ublock plugin or sth rapid?
[2016-08-15 13:48:45] justinlooking : it is fine here
[2016-08-15 13:55:20] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4xruhd/daily_discussion_monday_august_15_2016/d6i3wc8
[2016-08-15 14:04:14] rapidtrades : f*Ck him and f*ck u zanza
[2016-08-15 14:04:32] rapidtrades : they still haven't replied to my request
[2016-08-15 14:05:00] rapidtrades : how am i suppose to sue when I haven't even explored all other avenues first
[2016-08-15 14:05:19] rapidtrades : then u go to court and they say 'rapidtrades' did u ever ask bitfinex for ur monies
[2016-08-15 14:14:18] Rado : send many emails then
[2016-08-15 14:14:19] Rado : :-)
[2016-08-15 14:14:29] Rado : you can say I asked a few times
[2016-08-15 14:15:30] rapidtrades : no im just waiting a lil longer
[2016-08-15 14:16:05] rapidtrades : i should've gotten the ball rolling quicker like sleger
[2016-08-15 14:16:20] rapidtrades : imgur is still being a bitch
[2016-08-15 14:35:18] rapidtrades : give me another website this is shit
[2016-08-15 14:39:25] Rado : there is another one
[2016-08-15 14:39:29] Rado : let me check
[2016-08-15 14:40:01] Rado : https://postimage.org/
[2016-08-15 14:40:25] Rado : https://imgsafe.org/
[2016-08-15 14:41:00] Rado : soo
[2016-08-15 14:41:04] Rado : BTC price
[2016-08-15 14:41:16] Rado : Are we going to test $540 area?
[2016-08-15 14:54:39] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-08-15 14:55:30] Tetsuo : after that 450$ then bull trap
[2016-08-15 14:55:34] 4lph4 : like 100%
[2016-08-15 15:00:35] wotan : wow btc down
[2016-08-15 15:05:18] Rado : Tetsuo: you mean bear trap
[2016-08-15 15:09:21] Tetsuo : nah it will bulltrap from 450 to 550-600$ and then start fallin again to sub 3-400
[2016-08-15 15:11:56] wotan : i dont expect this scenario
[2016-08-15 15:14:20] Tetsuo : i´m not sure about the bulltrap part either, maybe we will just go down straight
[2016-08-15 15:16:27] wotan : what makes you so pesimistic about btc? i dont think it will touch 300-400 dollar level
[2016-08-15 15:16:46] wotan : kim dotcom said time to buy btc hceap is now in 2017 btc over 2000 dollar:)
[2016-08-15 15:17:04] wotan : im more bullish on btc then bearish to be true
[2016-08-15 15:18:10] wotan : we will eb stuck a bit in the level 3700-4000 cny then a push over 4000 thats what i think
[2016-08-15 15:19:07] wotan : when there will be a big economic crysis impact i expect btc to push more and in a fast time
[2016-08-15 15:19:23] wotan : but as always lets see
[2016-08-15 15:25:50] Tetsuo : question is, will ETH act as a hedge to BTC?
[2016-08-15 15:29:04] Tetsuo : and of course there is always the upcoming block limit fork hanging aboves bitcoins neck like a sword which could take it to 100$
[2016-08-15 15:30:22] Tetsuo : i pulled out 80% of my funds from crypto @~720 and withdraw it to my bank account and me personall yi´m not plannin to enter BTC before the forking drama is solved
[2016-08-15 15:31:16] Tetsuo : the rest is for playin alts and shortin BTC
[2016-08-15 15:31:54] Rado : Tetsuo: you are funny man
[2016-08-15 15:33:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1950 @ 562.10
[2016-08-15 15:33:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 3000 @ 57368.0
[2016-08-15 15:36:03] Tetsuo : Stamp below BTC-E
[2016-08-15 15:37:02] Rado : BTC-E has been stable
[2016-08-15 15:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 560.35
[2016-08-15 15:42:54] ayy_lmao : Testuo is usually right, but he casually trolls so few take it serious lol
[2016-08-15 15:43:32] ayy_lmao : idk about returning to 300s tho
[2016-08-15 15:47:04] justinlooking : haha go bitcoin https://github.com/theshadowbrokers/EQGRP-AUCTION
[2016-08-15 15:47:24] Rado : ETC dumping
[2016-08-15 15:50:21] Rado : justinlooking: lol, that is funny
[2016-08-15 15:54:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 73 @ 0.003294
[2016-08-15 15:55:47] Tetsuo : ayy_lmao: my character is the clear opposite of rapidtrades : _ )
[2016-08-15 15:56:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.003268
[2016-08-15 16:02:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2300 @ 558.19
[2016-08-15 16:04:35] Roevenger : Rado: ether foundation dumps are a trend now, they will regret later
[2016-08-15 16:07:40] Tetsuo : i guess there is always someone to blame when a multimillion dollar crypto fails. banksters, hackers, ether foundation. ETC has never been more than a joke, altough a expensive one, it will fail as hard as it can
[2016-08-15 16:09:04] Tetsuo : it was a single pump and dup bubble and it will go back to the levels where it started and stay flat after that
[2016-08-15 16:21:04] zanza : ETC is basically the same thing as ETH
[2016-08-15 16:21:20] zanza : the "dapps" can be pretty simply ported to ETC from ETH
[2016-08-15 16:30:06] Tetsuo : BTC had thousands of clones that work, some of the even better, still everyone wants to stay with the original.
[2016-08-15 16:34:41] zanza : BTC is more about store of value, ETH is about "smart contracts"
[2016-08-15 16:34:55] zanza : so if you can get the same contact done for cheaper, seems ok