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[2016-08-11 21:11:21] lockhedge : rapidtrades: i own less than 1 BFX, only had some change there in an account that i haven't used for month
[2016-08-11 21:11:40] rapidtrades : ah cool
[2016-08-11 21:51:10] rullwull : looks like a good deal for potential investor to buy bfx debt on the market with significant discount and close the deal
[2016-08-11 21:58:08] rapidtrades : close what deal....
[2016-08-11 21:59:45] pigeons : the deal would be blocked by a lawsuit that would take forever
[2016-08-11 22:03:25] rapidtrades : i still don't know who to email...finished my email now where to send
[2016-08-11 22:03:33] rapidtrades : support? their lawyer?
[2016-08-11 22:04:51] Rado : send to all of them
[2016-08-11 22:08:30] rullwull : investor can buy the debt with discount and convert it to bfx shares
[2016-08-11 22:09:08] aethlios : finex will pay back bfx, keep them as margin and use them to trade btc and other coins.
[2016-08-11 22:09:26] rapidtrades : rullwull: u can't buy shares dummy
[2016-08-11 22:09:30] rapidtrades : aethlios: source?
[2016-08-11 22:10:09] pigeons : ok i'll sell you tokens that are shares in my buying the bfx debt and doing that deal
[2016-08-11 22:10:21] aethlios : rapidtrades: trader's instinct
[2016-08-11 22:10:42] rapidtrades : rly...smth tells u you're a shitty trader
[2016-08-11 22:11:22] rullwull : this is my guess, it should look as attractive opportunity for investor
[2016-08-11 22:11:29] aethlios : rapidtrades: how do you now?? because I am not Jew??
[2016-08-11 22:12:20] rullwull : law suite is the worst scenario for all parties
[2016-08-11 22:13:34] lockhedge : rullwull: law suits seem to be inevitable after losing $70m
[2016-08-11 22:13:53] rapidtrades : yea def suing here if i don't my money back
[2016-08-11 22:14:00] aethlios : finex wants time to find investors, wait 3 months, and bfx coin above 0.5
[2016-08-11 22:14:23] justinlooking : 'MURICA
[2016-08-11 22:15:09] rullwull : tokens are their debt notes, they suppose to pay it 1=1
[2016-08-11 22:15:53] rullwull : and I suppose they wanna cover it with new investor
[2016-08-11 22:16:24] rullwull : thats why bfx trades is unique opportunity for investor
[2016-08-11 22:16:42] pigeons : eh they dont ay they will pay 1:1, they say they will pay proportionally to what they recover. whatever that means, and if not might convert to equity at undisclosed terms
[2016-08-11 22:17:09] rullwull : if they wanna keep working they should pay 1=1
[2016-08-11 22:17:31] lockhedge : rullwull: what would be your valuation for Bitfinex if you were a potential investor?
[2016-08-11 22:18:04] aethlios : they can pay slowlly 5% every 3months, they say "and available cash from ongoing operations"
[2016-08-11 22:18:40] lockhedge : cash that's left after they paid their salaries and consulting fees
[2016-08-11 22:18:42] rullwull : lockhedge: 10 x anual profit
[2016-08-11 22:18:46] aethlios : if they make one initial payment, bfx will jump to 0.70
[2016-08-11 22:19:43] pigeons : yeah if they make actually make payments the tokens will become mroe attractive sure
[2016-08-11 22:20:33] aethlios : lockhedge: 50 to 70 mill a bargain, btc price still below 1000 and many new interested alts now, ZCASH starts also soon. and bfx generates fees already.
[2016-08-11 22:21:16] aethlios : and you can earn interest loaning your bfx coins.
[2016-08-11 22:21:41] rapidtrades : there's a fool born every minute
[2016-08-11 22:22:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: better invest your trading capital feeding lawers and receiving promises for returning the loss.
[2016-08-11 22:24:16] rullwull : yea, look at bfx tokens volatility, you better make money on debt trades)
[2016-08-11 22:25:06] justinlooking : ^ lawyers understand sunk cost fallacy better than anyone
[2016-08-11 22:25:42] rapidtrades : aethlios: lawyers fees are reimbursable if u win, dummy
[2016-08-11 22:25:53] rapidtrades : which i plan to do
[2016-08-11 22:26:20] aethlios : rapidtrades: they will tell you 35% as our profit from what amount we gain back.
[2016-08-11 22:26:29] rapidtrades : bitch plz
[2016-08-11 22:26:29] justinlooking : u r poor fag tho
[2016-08-11 22:26:38] rullwull : you will be next after mtgox)
[2016-08-11 22:27:21] lockhedge : in an optimistic scenario their projected 12 month revenue (not profit or "available cash from ongoing operations") is still only 10% of that $70m
[2016-08-11 22:27:22] rullwull : this is a crypto world, forget about lawyers
[2016-08-11 22:27:56] rapidtrades : reddit is down
[2016-08-11 22:27:56] pigeons : what does zcash have to do with anything
[2016-08-11 22:28:48] pigeons : oh is zcash one of the recipients of the founder block reward siphon?
[2016-08-11 22:28:53] pigeons : i men is bitfinex
[2016-08-11 22:29:55] aethlios : pigeons: zcash, etc, eth, etc. are examples of a growing sector, and finex is #1 in btcusd volume, so investors are looking to enter such growing sectors and find cheap well established companies to enter.
[2016-08-11 22:30:42] pigeons : yeah certainly thats one way to look at it. i think its also very vlid to look at it as a big gox black hole
[2016-08-11 22:31:28] aethlios : poloniex made millions because of eth and etc, zcash could bring new fees also because will attract new fiat into crypto.
[2016-08-11 22:34:24] rullwull : lockhedge: i guess around 15
[2016-08-11 22:34:32] rapidtrades : anyone has their lawyer address jotted down....reddit is down
[2016-08-11 22:34:34] lockhedge : rullwull: 10x annual profit? does this formula also apply if annual profit = $1m, assets = $5m and liabilities = $70m? you still pay $10m
[2016-08-11 22:34:36] rapidtrades : what was the f*ckers name
[2016-08-11 22:35:16] lockhedge : rapidtrades: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stuart-hoegner-bb67695
[2016-08-11 22:35:32] rapidtrades : gracias amigo
[2016-08-11 22:36:07] aethlios : the hacker could buy bfx coins now and then return the stolen coins and make decent millions
[2016-08-11 22:36:17] rapidtrades : is this it stu@gamingcounsel.co
[2016-08-11 22:36:28] rapidtrades : wtf is .co
[2016-08-11 22:36:30] rullwull : lockhedge: i gave you a very rough estimation
[2016-08-11 22:37:20] rullwull : i think the debt is around half of their capitalization
[2016-08-11 22:37:47] rullwull : investor can buy the debt with 70% discount
[2016-08-11 22:39:46] aethlios : 16 mill. usd volume finex today with zero volatility in btc and no margin.
[2016-08-11 22:40:23] lockhedge : rullwull: BFX is not a liquid instrument, you can maybe buy 1% of the tokens (nobody knows how many have been issued) at a price below 0.4, another 2% below 0.5....
[2016-08-11 22:41:26] rullwull : lockhedge: yes, this is a free market, but the opportunity is here
[2016-08-11 22:43:15] rapidtrades : why s reddit down
[2016-08-11 22:43:18] rapidtrades : wtf is sthis bs
[2016-08-11 22:43:22] rullwull : there should be tokens equal to the losses
[2016-08-11 22:43:31] rapidtrades : whenever i need to get srs work done everything crashes
[2016-08-11 22:44:28] aethlios : rapidtrades: talked with lawyer yet, we keep charting, is the lawyer bullish or not??
[2016-08-11 22:46:17] rapidtrades : man i hope reddit NEVER comes back
[2016-08-11 22:46:21] rapidtrades : everything is shit
[2016-08-11 22:53:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 2095 @ 60239.0
[2016-08-11 22:55:51] pigeons : all reddit gold stolen
[2016-08-11 22:58:10] Tetsuo : byebye bitchoin
[2016-08-11 22:58:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 49000 @ 586.20 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 585.98
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25 @ 585.68
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 585.78
[2016-08-11 23:01:33] rapidtrades : good news....u only need a claim of 10k Hk dollars to force them into liquadation
[2016-08-11 23:02:07] rapidtrades : if its not repaid in 3 weeks u can petition the court
[2016-08-11 23:02:34] rapidtrades : that's like $5 in real money
[2016-08-11 23:02:38] Tetsuo : Sue those fuckers!
[2016-08-11 23:03:07] Roevenger : what exactly happened for this panic?
[2016-08-11 23:03:19] Tetsuo : Bitfinex hacked and robbed....again?
[2016-08-11 23:03:27] rapidtrades : prolly bitfinex running out of coins
[2016-08-11 23:03:49] rapidtrades : reddit is down so even if they're hacked...how would we know
[2016-08-11 23:03:56] Roevenger : we were doing so well
[2016-08-11 23:04:13] Tetsuo : Roevenger: only in your dreams
[2016-08-11 23:04:43] rapidtrades : reddit is down for emergency maintenance
[2016-08-11 23:05:12] Roevenger : that doesn't sound good
[2016-08-11 23:07:18] Tetsuo : BTC testin double digits in 2016 sounds even worse
[2016-08-11 23:07:49] Roevenger : a lot of people would die because of that
[2016-08-11 23:08:10] Tetsuo : a lot of people die every day, a few more, pffff
[2016-08-11 23:08:33] Roevenger : crypto community is small enough now, we can't afford losing people
[2016-08-11 23:08:43] Tetsuo : YES WE CAN
[2016-08-11 23:09:31] Tetsuo : blame it on the scammers
[2016-08-11 23:10:40] Tetsuo : chink support def. broken, mid-term stop is ~540$
[2016-08-11 23:11:00] newTraderGuy : anyone online???
[2016-08-11 23:11:09] 4lph4 : bitcoin WILL fork eventually - plan ahead
[2016-08-11 23:11:09] Tetsuo : f u
[2016-08-11 23:11:33] Tetsuo : 4lph4: bitcoin has to fork if it is willing to continue
[2016-08-11 23:11:37] Roevenger : somethiong big is going on, falling too fast
[2016-08-11 23:11:46] Tetsuo : Die BTC die
[2016-08-11 23:12:00] 4lph4 : Tetsuo: it might be true - let's see
[2016-08-11 23:12:13] newTraderGuy : I was wondering, lets say I have a leveraged position, and I get margin called, but there is no liquidity. Is it possible I lose more then my initial deposit? and then owe Bitmex more BTC?
[2016-08-11 23:12:25] ett1 : no
[2016-08-11 23:12:30] Tetsuo : 4lph4: there won´t be any real upwards move before we get rid of the block limit
[2016-08-11 23:12:52] newTraderGuy : ett1 was that "no" for me?
[2016-08-11 23:12:56] 4lph4 : will that be it or some sort of additional signing network?
[2016-08-11 23:12:58] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-08-11 23:13:07] 4lph4 : not sure
[2016-08-11 23:13:08] ett1 : yes. but think about it account can be anonymous, how can they chase the debt
[2016-08-11 23:13:18] 4lph4 : deviating from core ideology is risky..
[2016-08-11 23:13:22] newTraderGuy : ett1, my account has my name in it!
[2016-08-11 23:13:28] ett1 : you cant lose more than your deposit
[2016-08-11 23:13:39] newTraderGuy : ett1, how do you know?
[2016-08-11 23:14:00] ett1 : ive used bitmex long enough to know how it works
[2016-08-11 23:14:25] Tetsuo : lol, wtf. do u think bit mex is coming to knock at your door. This is crypto, losses get socialized
[2016-08-11 23:14:34] ett1 : they have some adjustment to account for that
[2016-08-11 23:14:39] newTraderGuy : lol k, Im just a wee bit paranoid
[2016-08-11 23:15:22] ett1 : just make sure you understand how the leverage works here. but dont worry you cant owe them more than deposit. the concept is kinda funny
[2016-08-11 23:16:25] newTraderGuy : ok sounds good to me. Thx for the help.
[2016-08-11 23:16:46] Tetsuo : always go max leverage short, thank me later
[2016-08-11 23:17:01] newTraderGuy : Im max leverage long ETC
[2016-08-11 23:17:26] ett1 : lol
[2016-08-11 23:17:35] newTraderGuy : This is the easiest money in the world. Chandler Guo Investor in both OKCoin and Huobi supports ETC, its obvious he's gonna do something to make it go up
[2016-08-11 23:17:41] Tetsuo : i haven´t looked at ETC charts, but max leverage is def. the way to go
[2016-08-11 23:18:01] newTraderGuy : probably get his exchanges to list it.
[2016-08-11 23:18:31] Tetsuo : well chinks should have dropped LTC months ago, maybe it´s time the rise of antoher big scamoin
[2016-08-11 23:18:42] newTraderGuy : ^ this guy gets it
[2016-08-11 23:18:43] ett1 : cant wait for leveraged okcoin tokens
[2016-08-11 23:20:42] Tetsuo : i´m not sure if ETH or ETC whill act as a hedge for BTC, but one of it will definitely do while BTC/USD will drop to 80$ support
[2016-08-11 23:21:11] Roevenger : your inside bear scares me
[2016-08-11 23:21:25] newTraderGuy : it will be ETC bc the two most influential businessmen in Crypto, Barry SIlbert and Chandler Guo, are gonna do something to make it big
[2016-08-11 23:21:57] newTraderGuy : Also the high volume from a few days back, SCREAMS insiders
[2016-08-11 23:22:05] Roevenger : ETH has two weak point right now, BTC and ETC, mostly ETC
[2016-08-11 23:22:06] newTraderGuy : BIG INSIDERS
[2016-08-11 23:23:03] ett1 : just follow what barry silbert is doing. I'm up 350x this year following his tips
[2016-08-11 23:23:12] newTraderGuy : lol holy shit
[2016-08-11 23:23:14] ett1 : 350% i meant
[2016-08-11 23:23:16] ett1 : sorry
[2016-08-11 23:23:18] newTraderGuy : ohhhhhh
[2016-08-11 23:23:20] newTraderGuy : hahahah
[2016-08-11 23:23:35] newTraderGuy : Im up 1000% this year. Bought a ton of ETH in December
[2016-08-11 23:23:53] newTraderGuy : actually %1200
[2016-08-11 23:24:07] Tetsuo : fair enough
[2016-08-11 23:24:54] newTraderGuy : Barry SIlbert has the deepest pockets in crypto town
[2016-08-11 23:25:04] newTraderGuy : Goldman Sachs put a ton of money in his fund
[2016-08-11 23:25:15] newTraderGuy : tons of other big corps and funds
[2016-08-11 23:25:23] newTraderGuy : went into DCG
[2016-08-11 23:25:37] Roevenger : but he is only a BTC. and recently ETC, holder right?
[2016-08-11 23:26:08] ett1 : BTC and ETH is his focus
[2016-08-11 23:26:10] newTraderGuy : ^Yes correct.
[2016-08-11 23:26:19] newTraderGuy : no not ETH he holds ETC
[2016-08-11 23:26:22] ett1 : i dont know about ETC
[2016-08-11 23:26:25] ett1 : maybe
[2016-08-11 23:26:32] newTraderGuy : ett1 you're wrong he holds no ETH
[2016-08-11 23:26:43] newTraderGuy : he's tweeted about not holding any ETH
[2016-08-11 23:27:35] Tetsuo : If ETC fails it would actually be good for BTC . It´s a blue print for the necessary upcoming BTC fork
[2016-08-11 23:27:47] newTraderGuy : https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/762312144411058177
[2016-08-11 23:28:00] Tetsuo : if it succeds, death to all crypto
[2016-08-11 23:28:41] pigeons : there is no necessary hard fork
[2016-08-11 23:28:50] ett1 : did barry make any comments on bitfinex
[2016-08-11 23:28:54] ett1 : at all
[2016-08-11 23:29:34] Tetsuo : Barry Silbert:" If you love con artists, buy BFX"
[2016-08-11 23:30:25] ett1 : did VCs and exchange operators know that bitfinex were shady beforehand. were they like outsiders
[2016-08-11 23:31:03] pigeons : everyone knew they were shady. they started running on known vulnerable unauthorized leaked/stolen bitcoinica ruby code
[2016-08-11 23:31:06] Tetsuo : everyone knew it, i posted about the shadiness of Bitfnex about a year ago
[2016-08-11 23:31:46] Tetsuo : i aöltough blackmailded them in 2014, coz there was a vulnerability. they didn´t pay me
[2016-08-11 23:31:54] pigeons : the guy was well known for pushing pirateat40/tendon shavers "passthrough" funds
[2016-08-11 23:31:59] Tetsuo : still have the emails and logs
[2016-08-11 23:32:06] Tetsuo : exchange was always fucked up
[2016-08-11 23:32:24] pigeons : yeah there were tons of vulnerabilites from the original bitcoinica code, lots of people emailed them and they removed them one by one
[2016-08-11 23:32:39] pigeons : but who wouldthink that was a good idea to run that crap, only bitcoinica
[2016-08-11 23:32:44] pigeons : i mean only bitfinex excuse me
[2016-08-11 23:32:45] Tetsuo : i only demanded 500 BTC, better should have payed me
[2016-08-11 23:33:08] ett1 : what was the price back then
[2016-08-11 23:33:32] Tetsuo : February 2014
[2016-08-11 23:33:35] Tetsuo : have to look
[2016-08-11 23:33:56] ett1 : Tetsuo: did you find that recent vulnerability lol
[2016-08-11 23:33:58] Tetsuo : * about 500$
[2016-08-11 23:34:07] ett1 : ah ok
[2016-08-11 23:34:37] pigeons : yeh should have asked for 12kbtc like this guy
[2016-08-11 23:34:50] Tetsuo : they wrote something like: " sure we will pay you, but first you have to tell us what exactly the vulnerability is about
[2016-08-11 23:34:56] Tetsuo : gave them hints , they demanded more
[2016-08-11 23:35:01] ett1 : Tetsuo: you told them what it was, and they didnt pay you after. or they just ignored the offer
[2016-08-11 23:35:02] Tetsuo : fuck them
[2016-08-11 23:35:30] ett1 : got it
[2016-08-11 23:36:36] ett1 : you could have stolen all their coins using the vulnerability?
[2016-08-11 23:36:45] Tetsuo : I left them in early 2014 after i discovered it, i even posted about it @ bitcointalk.org
[2016-08-11 23:38:27] Tetsuo : ett1: i could have serioulsy messed up theri trading engine, using fake USD and fake BTC in the orderbook to manipulate the price
[2016-08-11 23:38:59] Tetsuo : bug wasn´t about stelaing coins, more about manipulating everything severe
[2016-08-11 23:39:11] Tetsuo : total noob bug if you aske me
[2016-08-11 23:39:44] lockhedge : Tetsuo: your bitcointalk.org username is fonzie?
[2016-08-11 23:39:53] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-08-11 23:41:05] Tetsuo : i will look for the blackmail e-mail on my computer and post it here in the next days,
[2016-08-11 23:41:53] Tetsuo : they were just as arrogant and confident as they are now
[2016-08-11 23:46:17] lockhedge : they don't seem to have a bug bounty program https://bugcrowd.com/list-of-bug-bounty-programs (BitMEX, Coinbase, itBit, Kraken on the list)
[2016-08-11 23:56:44] Tetsuo : i even win the 2015 prediction contest, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553123.msg10950681#msg10950681
[2016-08-11 23:57:19] Tetsuo : maybe if everyone would just listen to me , the world would be a better place, lel
[2016-08-11 23:59:35] Tetsuo : look at what those fools voted at that time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553123.msg8162779#msg8162779
[2016-08-12 00:13:22] miramm1115 : bfx coin still too expensive for some reason
[2016-08-12 00:14:11] miramm1115 : not sure who's buying except maybe finex themselves
[2016-08-12 00:15:11] lockhedge : miramm1115: PGP said that they are not buying, they would only redeem at full value
[2016-08-12 00:16:09] miramm1115 : was it in the latest whaleclub interview? didn't have time to listen yet.
[2016-08-12 00:16:21] lockhedge : yes
[2016-08-12 00:16:35] miramm1115 : btw, got 100% usd back
[2016-08-12 00:17:10] miramm1115 : fdic insurance ftw ;-)
[2016-08-12 00:19:35] j8 : synapsepay?
[2016-08-12 00:21:48] miramm1115 : yes, our verified account was funded using ACH from US bank account, and apparently all ACHs are processed using SynapsePay.
[2016-08-12 00:22:26] j8 : lucky
[2016-08-12 00:22:55] miramm1115 : yeah, had 3 times more USD than BTC there
[2016-08-12 00:23:31] j8 : i was all in usd and maxed out short.. kinda got screwed
[2016-08-12 00:23:53] miramm1115 : yeah, worse case scenario for you :-(
[2016-08-12 00:24:09] miramm1115 : settled @ 604?
[2016-08-12 00:25:00] j8 : yes, and for a long period i didn't know if it would be settled or not.. at first they said they were only settling affected accounts
[2016-08-12 00:25:54] j8 : so i ended up super long going down to 500 and below.. a bit uncomfortable
[2016-08-12 00:26:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hey what is the link to the reddit bitfniex blog
[2016-08-12 00:27:01] miramm1115 : yeah, so unprofessional :-( I thought you were on vacation and out of all positions. was it a hedge of your bitcoin holdings?
[2016-08-12 00:27:44] j8 : miramm1115: yeah, i hedged on bitfinex because i was worried about socialized losses on futures.. lol kinda backfired
[2016-08-12 00:28:57] j8 : oh well. i got my 62% out anyway. life goes on
[2016-08-12 00:38:46] miramm1115 : j8: yeah, I gave up on proper hedging. I keep partial hedges for trading capital but I convert almost all profit to USD/CAD right away
[2016-08-12 00:40:41] j8 : yeah, thats really the way to go. markets are not really mature enough to be always in
[2016-08-12 01:41:52] Rado : I am doing exactly the opposite
[2016-08-12 01:42:08] Rado : I convert all profit to BTC
[2016-08-12 01:42:17] Rado : for my retirement :)
[2016-08-12 01:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1075 @ 0.003356
[2016-08-12 01:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 133 @ 0.003354
[2016-08-12 02:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1500 @ 0.003467
[2016-08-12 02:18:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1199 @ 0.003514
[2016-08-12 02:33:15] unsure : wtf does maintenance margin mean?
[2016-08-12 02:39:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 583.90
[2016-08-12 02:46:01] Rado : unsure: how much BTC from your balance is needed to keep your positions
[2016-08-12 02:46:49] Rado : I guess your nick directly represents your state of mind
[2016-08-12 02:48:44] ayy_lmao : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/maintenancemargin.asp
[2016-08-12 02:48:59] ayy_lmao : investopedia is your friend
[2016-08-12 03:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1085 @ 583.21
[2016-08-12 03:35:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4700 @ 582.83
[2016-08-12 03:36:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 6000 @ 59700.0
[2016-08-12 03:36:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1700 @ 581.78
[2016-08-12 03:53:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 101 @ 581.34
[2016-08-12 03:55:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 581.22
[2016-08-12 03:55:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 581.13
[2016-08-12 03:56:39] ayy_lmao : nobody has enough money on finex to dump lmao
[2016-08-12 04:04:35] Ludwig : any chinese here?
[2016-08-12 04:08:35] Ludwig : is it only 1% margin will beforehand margin call ?
[2016-08-12 04:18:30] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: for XBTUSD, the default maintain margin is 0.5%
[2016-08-12 04:24:07] Ludwig : should i pay the loss if over margin
[2016-08-12 04:25:18] Ludwig : BitMEX_Jinming:
[2016-08-12 04:30:07] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: if you have less than maintain margin, your position will be liquidated.
[2016-08-12 04:31:04] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation
[2016-08-12 04:47:07] Ludwig : BitMEX_Jinming: Are there any open order limit? like buy +5% or sell -5%
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 155 @ 0.003043
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.003402
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1417 @ 0.003379
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 7500 @ 0.003080
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.003355
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.003055
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 460 @ 0.003127
[2016-08-12 04:51:00] kingjay36 : wow
[2016-08-12 04:51:03] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-12 04:51:16] kingjay36 : u got rekt =(
[2016-08-12 04:51:20] kingjay36 : i
[2016-08-12 04:51:31] ayy_lmao : would have got margin called had i held my etc long
[2016-08-12 05:05:36] floreslorca : im trying to log in
[2016-08-12 05:05:45] floreslorca : and im getting an error saying "incorrect recaptcha
[2016-08-12 05:05:55] floreslorca : but there is no recaptcha wtf
[2016-08-12 05:06:30] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: no such limit as long as you have enough margin to back those orders once filled.
[2016-08-12 05:07:39] BitMEX_Jinming : floreslorca: where are you located? We know that in China recaptcha is blocked so user can't see it, and we are working on the solution.
[2016-08-12 05:08:56] Ludwig : i mean price, like price now is 500$, can i buy to 1000$ at once ?
[2016-08-12 05:10:45] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: yes, and you will sweep the asks in the order book.
[2016-08-12 05:11:28] j8 : Ludwig: yeah do it!
[2016-08-12 05:11:47] Ludwig : LOL
[2016-08-12 05:13:10] j8 : highest ask is 898.26 though. if you have 162 bitcoin you could buy it all
[2016-08-12 05:13:28] Ludwig : floreslorca: shadowsocks can help u
[2016-08-12 05:13:37] j8 : or way more with risk limits i guess
[2016-08-12 05:20:58] rapidtrades : what's the running total withdrawn from shitnex
[2016-08-12 05:22:49] rapidtrades : btw why was reddit down for 'emergency maintenance'
[2016-08-12 05:23:42] rapidtrades : fishy how it coincided with us started our new sub https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal
[2016-08-12 05:25:22] rapidtrades : also this https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4x9c98/cryptsy_ceo_stole_millions_from_exchange_court/
[2016-08-12 05:25:45] rapidtrades : looks like dipping into customer funds is a big temptation for these ppl
[2016-08-12 05:29:10] rapidtrades : Arthur: ' "Even though Bitfinex explicitly said it has no obligations to ever pay back a dime to BFX token holders, traders still ascribe a healthy value to the token."
[2016-08-12 05:29:24] rapidtrades : still bringing that burn
[2016-08-12 05:32:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.003432
[2016-08-12 05:41:28] zanza : illuminati rapidtrades
[2016-08-12 05:41:55] zanza : so did willybot uninstall his computer
[2016-08-12 05:42:04] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-08-12 06:47:14] rapidtrades : zanza: wat
[2016-08-12 06:49:08] rapidtrades : are bitfinex ppl still doing the withdrawls manually?
[2016-08-12 06:51:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 25 @ 0.02020
[2016-08-12 06:53:41] sq : BitMEX_Jinming: is the funding right? 0.0078%
[2016-08-12 06:53:50] sq : i think it hasnt changed for really long
[2016-08-12 06:54:59] germanjew : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-08-12 06:55:05] germanjew : Two previous times have been the same
[2016-08-12 06:55:11] germanjew : atleast for XBTUSD
[2016-08-12 06:59:59] BitMEX_Jinming : sq: yeah it means the premium index doesn't change much.
[2016-08-12 07:01:22] sq : ok
[2016-08-12 07:01:47] germanjew : Is there somewhere where I can see funding payouts?
[2016-08-12 07:03:02] germanjew : Ah nvm
[2016-08-12 07:04:28] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Jinming: so since bitfinex is not out of commission, there is no funding charge only premium/discount?
[2016-08-12 07:04:49] rapidtrades : previously there was a small % added based on interest rates overe there
[2016-08-12 07:05:52] rapidtrades : finex API is still broken...this is hilarious
[2016-08-12 07:06:41] sq : BitMEX_Jinming: spot is around 585.56, your swap at 586.50, funding shoud be more than 0.0078%?
[2016-08-12 07:06:50] sq : just off the envelop.. doesnt seem v right
[2016-08-12 07:07:07] sq : i might be wrong
[2016-08-12 07:07:57] rapidtrades : sq: funding is not real time...it's average of 8hr perio last counted 8 hrs ago
[2016-08-12 07:08:26] rapidtrades : like right now...those stats u said would be included in the next funding starting from 8 pm UTC
[2016-08-12 07:08:47] sq : yeah, agree
[2016-08-12 07:10:09] sq : just that the predicted funding should slowly change.. but i dont see it
[2016-08-12 07:10:14] sq : well. we will see
[2016-08-12 07:23:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 587.78
[2016-08-12 07:23:14] BitMEX_Wally : The funding rate is currently the stale BON rate and it only changes if the premium index is more than 0.05% different
[2016-08-12 07:27:03] sq : ic cool
[2016-08-12 07:28:40] sq : tks
[2016-08-12 07:35:38] TA : btc on its wy up?
[2016-08-12 07:40:05] TA : or just teasing on its way down?
[2016-08-12 07:42:34] Martinos : thats the question:)
[2016-08-12 07:44:36] TA : Martinos: what do you think?
[2016-08-12 07:45:31] Martinos : looks pretty solid to me
[2016-08-12 07:45:44] TA : Martinos: going to test 650?
[2016-08-12 07:46:39] Martinos : i think test 600
[2016-08-12 07:46:58] TA : we have major resistance there?
[2016-08-12 07:47:27] TA : is there a site where we can see all the btc order books?
[2016-08-12 07:47:47] Martinos : bitcoinwisdom ?
[2016-08-12 07:48:53] TA : okay..thanks ..so are you long in btc?
[2016-08-12 07:50:56] Martinos : im watching the test of the upside
[2016-08-12 07:51:20] Martinos : im expecting a test of 550 too
[2016-08-12 07:51:31] Martinos : so i dont know
[2016-08-12 07:51:38] TA : oh okay
[2016-08-12 07:51:54] TA : but if it goes down..it will test 490-500
[2016-08-12 07:52:06] TA : thats where the major res is
[2016-08-12 07:52:26] Martinos : that would be a big drop
[2016-08-12 07:52:29] Martinos : well see
[2016-08-12 07:53:08] TA : and imo..if it crosses 600..it goes back up to 650
[2016-08-12 08:00:02] men : ltc will skyrocket! :D
[2016-08-12 08:00:17] Tetsuo : men: plz stop trolling
[2016-08-12 08:02:18] men : Tetsuo: i'm not trolling.. i'm saying this because on polo the buy order are increasing and there are 164 btc in .00636 area
[2016-08-12 09:15:41] 4lph4 : soooooooo boring
[2016-08-12 09:16:24] Mm bot : 4lph4: get some popcorn to watch BTC crash soon.
[2016-08-12 09:16:47] 4lph4 : Mm bot: anything to support that statement?
[2016-08-12 09:21:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 45 @ 0.003200
[2016-08-12 09:33:55] Mm bot : 4lph4: wait and see, sentiment is bad, customers are unhappy, BFX dropping in value
[2016-08-12 09:35:14] Martinos : :(
[2016-08-12 09:35:25] 4lph4 : Mm bot: so did you really mean "crash" or just a price correction?
[2016-08-12 09:35:32] 4lph4 : because crash is something different
[2016-08-12 09:37:06] Mm bot : 4lph4:yes
[2016-08-12 09:41:42] Tetsuo : Huge amounts of pain and misery are prepared for BTC holders
[2016-08-12 09:43:41] Martinos : Maybe the chinese are buying then
[2016-08-12 09:45:35] Tetsuo : they will probably start buyin @ ~1000CNY
[2016-08-12 09:48:18] Martinos : haha
[2016-08-12 09:49:19] muirtastic : So Zane Tackett, Bitfinex lackey hasn't responded for 18 hrs on reddit and also the .30 support for BFX finally broke and down 10%. Coincidence of fate?
[2016-08-12 09:49:27] muirtastic : Or fate
[2016-08-12 09:49:42] muirtastic : I shorted some more BFX, just in case
[2016-08-12 09:52:55] Tetsuo : still nothing about - how the hack happened - how they came up with their 36% numbers - what BFX is representing
[2016-08-12 09:54:29] Tetsuo : ---> more bad news soon
[2016-08-12 09:57:48] muirtastic : yes I bet they took money from the margin longs losing positions and included that in the haircut as well.
[2016-08-12 09:57:57] muirtastic : Someone needs to do a full audit of their books
[2016-08-12 09:58:53] Tetsuo : not gonna happen
[2016-08-12 10:28:33] rapidtrades : so the BFX token here is based on dollar value right...but the PnL moves based on BTC
[2016-08-12 10:28:37] rapidtrades : that's weird
[2016-08-12 10:29:22] rapidtrades : so if token falls in value BTC should fall too, makes it not a good hedge
[2016-08-12 10:37:52] rapidtrades : i suspect smth very illegal has been going on over there....maybe not malicious maybe smth like insider trading on the platform running bots etc
[2016-08-12 10:38:26] rapidtrades : in any case starting up with a such big hole knowing ppl will sue says to me they are desperate
[2016-08-12 10:38:27] 4lph4 : well I thought it's 100% certain that they engage in insider trading
[2016-08-12 10:38:48] rapidtrades : well yes they admitted to trading on their site
[2016-08-12 10:39:11] rapidtrades : but im talking about running bots like okc where noone can compete
[2016-08-12 10:39:19] 4lph4 : they also said they won't do it for BFX, as if they were doing it for anything else
[2016-08-12 10:39:21] rapidtrades : that exchange was always kinda fishy
[2016-08-12 10:39:38] rapidtrades : spreads were frequently 0.01 yet fees didn't justify those tight spreads
[2016-08-12 10:39:51] rapidtrades : those are spreads for no fees exchanges
[2016-08-12 10:40:31] rapidtrades : it was next to impossible to get executed unless u clogged up the bid/ask asap
[2016-08-12 10:41:02] rapidtrades : it's likely that their MM bots got caught during that giant rally we had and suffered major losses
[2016-08-12 10:42:04] rapidtrades : just speculation of course but they are definitely covering up smth
[2016-08-12 10:45:15] rapidtrades : a bunch of them are in America so not doubt why they're giving ameros special treatment
[2016-08-12 10:45:32] CP : Hi. Is there any way I can roll the ETC weekly future? Or do you just need to market buy/sell after settlement at 12 UTC today?
[2016-08-12 10:49:41] rapidtrades : have to buy/sell
[2016-08-12 10:56:10] CP : Ok thx @rapidtrades!
[2016-08-12 10:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.003174
[2016-08-12 10:58:02] VenCap : When do the margins profits get paid out today?
[2016-08-12 10:58:45] VenCap : ahok i see the unlock time :O)
[2016-08-12 10:59:29] rapidtrades : yeah 1h :)
[2016-08-12 11:21:54] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4xd0ta/heres_why_bitfinex_is_not_like_mtgox/
[2016-08-12 11:39:45] Martinos : does not look btc wants up
[2016-08-12 11:41:01] 4lph4 : to be honest it won't announce it
[2016-08-12 11:43:21] Tetsuo : 4lph4: a 10k BTC buy order on Stamp sure could lead the way
[2016-08-12 11:44:05] Martinos : where i dont see it
[2016-08-12 11:44:28] Tetsuo : only in a wet bulls dream
[2016-08-12 11:44:55] Martinos : haha
[2016-08-12 11:47:39] Tetsuo : "Cryptsy CEO Paul Vernon may have stolen as much as $3.3m from the now-defunct digital currency exchange and destroyed evidence of his illicit actions." That´s what Finex is doing right now, only on a larger scale
[2016-08-12 11:48:13] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4xd3sp/questions_about_class_action_lawsuit/
[2016-08-12 12:00:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 19667 @ 626.00
[2016-08-12 12:00:32] rapidtrades : dam ^^^ look at that bitch
[2016-08-12 12:02:14] ayy_lmao : why is etc at 0.004 lol
[2016-08-12 12:02:15] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-12 12:02:18] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2016-08-12 12:02:32] haxmb : ayyyylmao
[2016-08-12 12:02:35] haxmb : cheers for the money lads
[2016-08-12 12:02:39] ayy_lmao : i no rite
[2016-08-12 12:02:57] rapidtrades : what happened mah jews?
[2016-08-12 12:03:12] haxmb : someone's algo fucked up @ settlement bra
[2016-08-12 12:03:14] ayy_lmao : etc listed at 0.004 with liquidity
[2016-08-12 12:03:21] ayy_lmao : but at polo its at 0.0033
[2016-08-12 12:03:32] rapidtrades : i see it....smone panic rolled
[2016-08-12 12:03:34] haxmb : who's bots were it
[2016-08-12 12:03:38] haxmb : rofl
[2016-08-12 12:04:06] ayy_lmao : i almost didnt believe it at first
[2016-08-12 12:04:11] ayy_lmao : was too good to be true
[2016-08-12 12:04:31] haxmb : roflmao
[2016-08-12 12:05:35] rapidtrades : mm bot peaced out
[2016-08-12 12:05:41] haxmb : lol
[2016-08-12 12:06:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 46336 @ 0.003712 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-12 12:06:07] ayy_lmao : jREKT
[2016-08-12 12:06:11] ayy_lmao : rip bot
[2016-08-12 12:06:12] ayy_lmao : lolol
[2016-08-12 12:06:12] haxmb : llolwat
[2016-08-12 12:06:18] haxmb : how
[2016-08-12 12:06:19] ayy_lmao : 144.79%)
[2016-08-12 12:06:22] ayy_lmao : ayy lmao
[2016-08-12 12:06:36] rapidtrades : wat
[2016-08-12 12:06:39] haxmb : AYY LMAO WAT
[2016-08-12 12:06:41] rapidtrades : is happening
[2016-08-12 12:06:47] Tetsuo : lots of fun
[2016-08-12 12:06:51] haxmb : someone fucked up about 50 BTC there
[2016-08-12 12:07:04] rapidtrades : dam i didn't get any
[2016-08-12 12:07:15] haxmb : sold 80 btc worth @ 400+
[2016-08-12 12:07:21] haxmb : fuck me
[2016-08-12 12:07:29] haxmb : is this real live
[2016-08-12 12:07:31] haxmb : life*
[2016-08-12 12:07:36] rapidtrades : ahahaha nice one
[2016-08-12 12:07:37] aethlios : sold 5000 at 0.004
[2016-08-12 12:07:45] rapidtrades : i sold shit
[2016-08-12 12:08:06] haxmb : cheers for the 7+ grand lads
[2016-08-12 12:08:07] rapidtrades : could've sold at 35 got greedy :)
[2016-08-12 12:08:13] haxmb : wtf
[2016-08-12 12:08:27] haxmb : hola senor MM
[2016-08-12 12:08:30] haxmb : you back at it
[2016-08-12 12:08:38] Martinos : yw
[2016-08-12 12:08:43] ayy_lmao : and im out
[2016-08-12 12:08:46] ayy_lmao : thx mm
[2016-08-12 12:08:49] haxmb : <3 <3
[2016-08-12 12:09:04] haxmb : longed @ polo + kraken so im flat @ 14 btc gain
[2016-08-12 12:09:31] haxmb : $8k in 1 minute rofl
[2016-08-12 12:09:47] 4lph4 : so what was that?
[2016-08-12 12:09:49] 4lph4 : what happened?
[2016-08-12 12:10:00] haxmb : someone was buying @ 0.004+
[2016-08-12 12:10:05] haxmb : shitloads
[2016-08-12 12:10:11] haxmb : we sold into it
[2016-08-12 12:10:12] 4lph4 : fat fingers or what :p
[2016-08-12 12:10:21] haxmb : looks like it yeah
[2016-08-12 12:10:33] haxmb : and then 5 minutes later got REKT
[2016-08-12 12:10:41] haxmb : because he exceeded his risk limits grossly
[2016-08-12 12:10:46] 4lph4 : good job!
[2016-08-12 12:11:03] I-am-Legend : i dont get this
[2016-08-12 12:11:20] I-am-Legend : i had eth classic long open 3000 contracts
[2016-08-12 12:11:28] I-am-Legend : its gone i dont see any sign of it
[2016-08-12 12:11:37] I-am-Legend : even in account history
[2016-08-12 12:11:41] haxmb : I-am-Legend: ETC7D just settled
[2016-08-12 12:11:42] 4lph4 : I think it's a bit too late legend
[2016-08-12 12:12:01] I-am-Legend : what does that mean haxmb
[2016-08-12 12:12:16] haxmb : the contract expires
[2016-08-12 12:12:32] I-am-Legend : i had eth short contract open that is not expiring
[2016-08-12 12:12:40] I-am-Legend : been through 3 rebates
[2016-08-12 12:12:45] haxmb : eth classic != ETH
[2016-08-12 12:12:49] haxmb : eth classic = ETC
[2016-08-12 12:12:59] I-am-Legend : my eth contract on going
[2016-08-12 12:13:05] I-am-Legend : ETC contract expired
[2016-08-12 12:13:15] haxmb : yes
[2016-08-12 12:13:15] I-am-Legend : why does on stay live & other expires
[2016-08-12 12:13:26] haxmb : because its an expiring contract
[2016-08-12 12:13:31] haxmb : as it states in the description
[2016-08-12 12:13:51] BitMEX_Wally : Perpetual Swaps are perpetual. Whereas futures have an expiry date
[2016-08-12 12:13:56] BitMEX_Wally : The 7D means it expires every 7 days
[2016-08-12 12:14:09] haxmb : I-am-Legend: what @BitMEX_Wally says
[2016-08-12 12:14:18] I-am-Legend : dam so i had opened just before it expires
[2016-08-12 12:14:40] I-am-Legend : where do you see when they expire before you open
[2016-08-12 12:15:00] migz : That was fast.
[2016-08-12 12:15:11] haxmb : it says
[2016-08-12 12:15:18] I-am-Legend : Bitmex really need to get some proper videos showing noobs how to use the site, if im getting rekt should at least know why im getting rekt
[2016-08-12 12:15:18] haxmb : on the right topof the page
[2016-08-12 12:16:07] migz : They say you gotta read documentation. But it was too many, this site is not noob friendly.
[2016-08-12 12:16:22] migz : Been here for months, i am still getting rekt. lmao
[2016-08-12 12:16:29] I-am-Legend : on my ETH contract short it has removed some BTC as realized i was in a losing position, on first 2 settlements i gained interest on the last one it removed margin from me?
[2016-08-12 12:17:48] I-am-Legend : its mental ton of stuff i know nothing about, i tried watching CEO videos on youtube, they are terrible he just confuses you more sure he is a great CEO but those videos are bad for his business
[2016-08-12 12:18:04] I-am-Legend : i dont get why i paid out on my eth contract
[2016-08-12 12:18:19] haxmb : I-am-Legend: its the funding rate
[2016-08-12 12:18:31] haxmb : you can read every detail on t he damn site
[2016-08-12 12:18:32] I-am-Legend : first 2 times it settled it paid interest last time it took some of my margin
[2016-08-12 12:18:43] I-am-Legend : funding rate its over 1 BTC
[2016-08-12 12:18:45] haxmb : its your own fault for trading something you dont know
[2016-08-12 12:18:50] I-am-Legend : doubt its funding
[2016-08-12 12:18:54] haxmb : ffs
[2016-08-12 12:19:06] haxmb : never mind, im not even going to try
[2016-08-12 12:19:38] haxmb : read these thoroughly
[2016-08-12 12:19:38] haxmb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ETC7D