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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2016-08-11 19:29:26] pigeons : its only an issue when it turns into an issue
[2016-08-11 19:30:19] rapidtrades : yeah :)
[2016-08-11 20:04:22] CaptainDean : Trending is looking to be down, i'm surprise we are not trying the 600$ resistance anymore
[2016-08-11 20:51:49] 4lph4 : let's not forget that bitfinex's success is tied to the eventual refund of people who lost, so rational bitfinex customers would want to remain and support
[2016-08-11 20:59:29] lockhedge : 4lph4: it wouldn't even be rational if a substantial amount of the generated revenue would be used to redeem tokens.
[2016-08-11 21:00:21] lockhedge : 4lph4: funds are not save there a) because they demonstrated to not be able to secure customer funds b) Bitfinex could be shut down any minute by authorities, all funds frozen
[2016-08-11 21:05:43] rapidtrades : ^^^ what he said
[2016-08-11 21:05:51] rapidtrades : lockhedge: did u sell ur tokens?
[2016-08-11 21:10:12] 4lph4 : it wouldn't be rational indeed, however it's all about expectations so if people continued to be negative, that would give them the smallest probability for a refund. of course it's not very easy to "trust" them but to me it boils down to the fact that you carry the same risk with any exchange you send your money to, let's be honest we only know what they claim to be doing... as with bitfinex. rationally, they all have the same amount of risk
[2016-08-11 21:11:21] lockhedge : rapidtrades: i own less than 1 BFX, only had some change there in an account that i haven't used for month
[2016-08-11 21:11:40] rapidtrades : ah cool
[2016-08-11 21:51:10] rullwull : looks like a good deal for potential investor to buy bfx debt on the market with significant discount and close the deal
[2016-08-11 21:58:08] rapidtrades : close what deal....
[2016-08-11 21:59:45] pigeons : the deal would be blocked by a lawsuit that would take forever
[2016-08-11 22:03:25] rapidtrades : i still don't know who to email...finished my email now where to send
[2016-08-11 22:03:33] rapidtrades : support? their lawyer?
[2016-08-11 22:04:51] Rado : send to all of them
[2016-08-11 22:08:30] rullwull : investor can buy the debt with discount and convert it to bfx shares
[2016-08-11 22:09:08] aethlios : finex will pay back bfx, keep them as margin and use them to trade btc and other coins.
[2016-08-11 22:09:26] rapidtrades : rullwull: u can't buy shares dummy
[2016-08-11 22:09:30] rapidtrades : aethlios: source?
[2016-08-11 22:10:09] pigeons : ok i'll sell you tokens that are shares in my buying the bfx debt and doing that deal
[2016-08-11 22:10:21] aethlios : rapidtrades: trader's instinct
[2016-08-11 22:10:42] rapidtrades : rly...smth tells u you're a shitty trader
[2016-08-11 22:11:22] rullwull : this is my guess, it should look as attractive opportunity for investor
[2016-08-11 22:11:29] aethlios : rapidtrades: how do you now?? because I am not Jew??
[2016-08-11 22:12:20] rullwull : law suite is the worst scenario for all parties
[2016-08-11 22:13:34] lockhedge : rullwull: law suits seem to be inevitable after losing $70m
[2016-08-11 22:13:53] rapidtrades : yea def suing here if i don't my money back
[2016-08-11 22:14:00] aethlios : finex wants time to find investors, wait 3 months, and bfx coin above 0.5
[2016-08-11 22:14:23] justinlooking : 'MURICA
[2016-08-11 22:15:09] rullwull : tokens are their debt notes, they suppose to pay it 1=1
[2016-08-11 22:15:53] rullwull : and I suppose they wanna cover it with new investor
[2016-08-11 22:16:24] rullwull : thats why bfx trades is unique opportunity for investor
[2016-08-11 22:16:42] pigeons : eh they dont ay they will pay 1:1, they say they will pay proportionally to what they recover. whatever that means, and if not might convert to equity at undisclosed terms
[2016-08-11 22:17:09] rullwull : if they wanna keep working they should pay 1=1
[2016-08-11 22:17:31] lockhedge : rullwull: what would be your valuation for Bitfinex if you were a potential investor?
[2016-08-11 22:18:04] aethlios : they can pay slowlly 5% every 3months, they say "and available cash from ongoing operations"
[2016-08-11 22:18:40] lockhedge : cash that's left after they paid their salaries and consulting fees
[2016-08-11 22:18:42] rullwull : lockhedge: 10 x anual profit
[2016-08-11 22:18:46] aethlios : if they make one initial payment, bfx will jump to 0.70
[2016-08-11 22:19:43] pigeons : yeah if they make actually make payments the tokens will become mroe attractive sure
[2016-08-11 22:20:33] aethlios : lockhedge: 50 to 70 mill a bargain, btc price still below 1000 and many new interested alts now, ZCASH starts also soon. and bfx generates fees already.
[2016-08-11 22:21:16] aethlios : and you can earn interest loaning your bfx coins.
[2016-08-11 22:21:41] rapidtrades : there's a fool born every minute
[2016-08-11 22:22:56] aethlios : rapidtrades: better invest your trading capital feeding lawers and receiving promises for returning the loss.
[2016-08-11 22:24:16] rullwull : yea, look at bfx tokens volatility, you better make money on debt trades)
[2016-08-11 22:25:06] justinlooking : ^ lawyers understand sunk cost fallacy better than anyone
[2016-08-11 22:25:42] rapidtrades : aethlios: lawyers fees are reimbursable if u win, dummy
[2016-08-11 22:25:53] rapidtrades : which i plan to do
[2016-08-11 22:26:20] aethlios : rapidtrades: they will tell you 35% as our profit from what amount we gain back.
[2016-08-11 22:26:29] rapidtrades : bitch plz
[2016-08-11 22:26:29] justinlooking : u r poor fag tho
[2016-08-11 22:26:38] rullwull : you will be next after mtgox)
[2016-08-11 22:27:21] lockhedge : in an optimistic scenario their projected 12 month revenue (not profit or "available cash from ongoing operations") is still only 10% of that $70m
[2016-08-11 22:27:22] rullwull : this is a crypto world, forget about lawyers
[2016-08-11 22:27:56] rapidtrades : reddit is down
[2016-08-11 22:27:56] pigeons : what does zcash have to do with anything
[2016-08-11 22:28:48] pigeons : oh is zcash one of the recipients of the founder block reward siphon?
[2016-08-11 22:28:53] pigeons : i men is bitfinex
[2016-08-11 22:29:55] aethlios : pigeons: zcash, etc, eth, etc. are examples of a growing sector, and finex is #1 in btcusd volume, so investors are looking to enter such growing sectors and find cheap well established companies to enter.
[2016-08-11 22:30:42] pigeons : yeah certainly thats one way to look at it. i think its also very vlid to look at it as a big gox black hole
[2016-08-11 22:31:28] aethlios : poloniex made millions because of eth and etc, zcash could bring new fees also because will attract new fiat into crypto.
[2016-08-11 22:34:24] rullwull : lockhedge: i guess around 15
[2016-08-11 22:34:32] rapidtrades : anyone has their lawyer address jotted down....reddit is down
[2016-08-11 22:34:34] lockhedge : rullwull: 10x annual profit? does this formula also apply if annual profit = $1m, assets = $5m and liabilities = $70m? you still pay $10m
[2016-08-11 22:34:36] rapidtrades : what was the f*ckers name
[2016-08-11 22:35:16] lockhedge : rapidtrades: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stuart-hoegner-bb67695
[2016-08-11 22:35:32] rapidtrades : gracias amigo
[2016-08-11 22:36:07] aethlios : the hacker could buy bfx coins now and then return the stolen coins and make decent millions
[2016-08-11 22:36:17] rapidtrades : is this it stu@gamingcounsel.co
[2016-08-11 22:36:28] rapidtrades : wtf is .co
[2016-08-11 22:36:30] rullwull : lockhedge: i gave you a very rough estimation
[2016-08-11 22:37:20] rullwull : i think the debt is around half of their capitalization
[2016-08-11 22:37:47] rullwull : investor can buy the debt with 70% discount
[2016-08-11 22:39:46] aethlios : 16 mill. usd volume finex today with zero volatility in btc and no margin.
[2016-08-11 22:40:23] lockhedge : rullwull: BFX is not a liquid instrument, you can maybe buy 1% of the tokens (nobody knows how many have been issued) at a price below 0.4, another 2% below 0.5....
[2016-08-11 22:41:26] rullwull : lockhedge: yes, this is a free market, but the opportunity is here
[2016-08-11 22:43:15] rapidtrades : why s reddit down
[2016-08-11 22:43:18] rapidtrades : wtf is sthis bs
[2016-08-11 22:43:22] rullwull : there should be tokens equal to the losses
[2016-08-11 22:43:31] rapidtrades : whenever i need to get srs work done everything crashes
[2016-08-11 22:44:28] aethlios : rapidtrades: talked with lawyer yet, we keep charting, is the lawyer bullish or not??
[2016-08-11 22:46:17] rapidtrades : man i hope reddit NEVER comes back
[2016-08-11 22:46:21] rapidtrades : everything is shit
[2016-08-11 22:53:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 2095 @ 60239.0
[2016-08-11 22:55:51] pigeons : all reddit gold stolen
[2016-08-11 22:58:10] Tetsuo : byebye bitchoin
[2016-08-11 22:58:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 49000 @ 586.20 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 585.98
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 25 @ 585.68
[2016-08-11 23:00:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 585.78
[2016-08-11 23:01:33] rapidtrades : good news....u only need a claim of 10k Hk dollars to force them into liquadation
[2016-08-11 23:02:07] rapidtrades : if its not repaid in 3 weeks u can petition the court
[2016-08-11 23:02:34] rapidtrades : that's like $5 in real money
[2016-08-11 23:02:38] Tetsuo : Sue those fuckers!
[2016-08-11 23:03:07] Roevenger : what exactly happened for this panic?
[2016-08-11 23:03:19] Tetsuo : Bitfinex hacked and robbed....again?
[2016-08-11 23:03:27] rapidtrades : prolly bitfinex running out of coins
[2016-08-11 23:03:49] rapidtrades : reddit is down so even if they're hacked...how would we know
[2016-08-11 23:03:56] Roevenger : we were doing so well
[2016-08-11 23:04:13] Tetsuo : Roevenger: only in your dreams
[2016-08-11 23:04:43] rapidtrades : reddit is down for emergency maintenance
[2016-08-11 23:05:12] Roevenger : that doesn't sound good
[2016-08-11 23:07:18] Tetsuo : BTC testin double digits in 2016 sounds even worse
[2016-08-11 23:07:49] Roevenger : a lot of people would die because of that
[2016-08-11 23:08:10] Tetsuo : a lot of people die every day, a few more, pffff
[2016-08-11 23:08:33] Roevenger : crypto community is small enough now, we can't afford losing people
[2016-08-11 23:08:43] Tetsuo : YES WE CAN
[2016-08-11 23:09:31] Tetsuo : blame it on the scammers
[2016-08-11 23:10:40] Tetsuo : chink support def. broken, mid-term stop is ~540$
[2016-08-11 23:11:00] newTraderGuy : anyone online???
[2016-08-11 23:11:09] 4lph4 : bitcoin WILL fork eventually - plan ahead
[2016-08-11 23:11:09] Tetsuo : f u
[2016-08-11 23:11:33] Tetsuo : 4lph4: bitcoin has to fork if it is willing to continue
[2016-08-11 23:11:37] Roevenger : somethiong big is going on, falling too fast
[2016-08-11 23:11:46] Tetsuo : Die BTC die
[2016-08-11 23:12:00] 4lph4 : Tetsuo: it might be true - let's see
[2016-08-11 23:12:13] newTraderGuy : I was wondering, lets say I have a leveraged position, and I get margin called, but there is no liquidity. Is it possible I lose more then my initial deposit? and then owe Bitmex more BTC?
[2016-08-11 23:12:25] ett1 : no
[2016-08-11 23:12:30] Tetsuo : 4lph4: there won´t be any real upwards move before we get rid of the block limit
[2016-08-11 23:12:52] newTraderGuy : ett1 was that "no" for me?
[2016-08-11 23:12:56] 4lph4 : will that be it or some sort of additional signing network?
[2016-08-11 23:12:58] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-08-11 23:13:07] 4lph4 : not sure
[2016-08-11 23:13:08] ett1 : yes. but think about it account can be anonymous, how can they chase the debt
[2016-08-11 23:13:18] 4lph4 : deviating from core ideology is risky..
[2016-08-11 23:13:22] newTraderGuy : ett1, my account has my name in it!
[2016-08-11 23:13:28] ett1 : you cant lose more than your deposit
[2016-08-11 23:13:39] newTraderGuy : ett1, how do you know?
[2016-08-11 23:14:00] ett1 : ive used bitmex long enough to know how it works
[2016-08-11 23:14:25] Tetsuo : lol, wtf. do u think bit mex is coming to knock at your door. This is crypto, losses get socialized
[2016-08-11 23:14:34] ett1 : they have some adjustment to account for that
[2016-08-11 23:14:39] newTraderGuy : lol k, Im just a wee bit paranoid
[2016-08-11 23:15:22] ett1 : just make sure you understand how the leverage works here. but dont worry you cant owe them more than deposit. the concept is kinda funny
[2016-08-11 23:16:25] newTraderGuy : ok sounds good to me. Thx for the help.
[2016-08-11 23:16:46] Tetsuo : always go max leverage short, thank me later
[2016-08-11 23:17:01] newTraderGuy : Im max leverage long ETC
[2016-08-11 23:17:26] ett1 : lol
[2016-08-11 23:17:35] newTraderGuy : This is the easiest money in the world. Chandler Guo Investor in both OKCoin and Huobi supports ETC, its obvious he's gonna do something to make it go up
[2016-08-11 23:17:41] Tetsuo : i haven´t looked at ETC charts, but max leverage is def. the way to go
[2016-08-11 23:18:01] newTraderGuy : probably get his exchanges to list it.
[2016-08-11 23:18:31] Tetsuo : well chinks should have dropped LTC months ago, maybe it´s time the rise of antoher big scamoin
[2016-08-11 23:18:42] newTraderGuy : ^ this guy gets it
[2016-08-11 23:18:43] ett1 : cant wait for leveraged okcoin tokens
[2016-08-11 23:20:42] Tetsuo : i´m not sure if ETH or ETC whill act as a hedge for BTC, but one of it will definitely do while BTC/USD will drop to 80$ support
[2016-08-11 23:21:11] Roevenger : your inside bear scares me
[2016-08-11 23:21:25] newTraderGuy : it will be ETC bc the two most influential businessmen in Crypto, Barry SIlbert and Chandler Guo, are gonna do something to make it big
[2016-08-11 23:21:57] newTraderGuy : Also the high volume from a few days back, SCREAMS insiders
[2016-08-11 23:22:05] Roevenger : ETH has two weak point right now, BTC and ETC, mostly ETC
[2016-08-11 23:22:06] newTraderGuy : BIG INSIDERS
[2016-08-11 23:23:03] ett1 : just follow what barry silbert is doing. I'm up 350x this year following his tips
[2016-08-11 23:23:12] newTraderGuy : lol holy shit
[2016-08-11 23:23:14] ett1 : 350% i meant
[2016-08-11 23:23:16] ett1 : sorry
[2016-08-11 23:23:18] newTraderGuy : ohhhhhh
[2016-08-11 23:23:20] newTraderGuy : hahahah
[2016-08-11 23:23:35] newTraderGuy : Im up 1000% this year. Bought a ton of ETH in December
[2016-08-11 23:23:53] newTraderGuy : actually %1200
[2016-08-11 23:24:07] Tetsuo : fair enough
[2016-08-11 23:24:54] newTraderGuy : Barry SIlbert has the deepest pockets in crypto town
[2016-08-11 23:25:04] newTraderGuy : Goldman Sachs put a ton of money in his fund
[2016-08-11 23:25:15] newTraderGuy : tons of other big corps and funds
[2016-08-11 23:25:23] newTraderGuy : went into DCG
[2016-08-11 23:25:37] Roevenger : but he is only a BTC. and recently ETC, holder right?
[2016-08-11 23:26:08] ett1 : BTC and ETH is his focus
[2016-08-11 23:26:10] newTraderGuy : ^Yes correct.
[2016-08-11 23:26:19] newTraderGuy : no not ETH he holds ETC
[2016-08-11 23:26:22] ett1 : i dont know about ETC
[2016-08-11 23:26:25] ett1 : maybe
[2016-08-11 23:26:32] newTraderGuy : ett1 you're wrong he holds no ETH
[2016-08-11 23:26:43] newTraderGuy : he's tweeted about not holding any ETH
[2016-08-11 23:27:35] Tetsuo : If ETC fails it would actually be good for BTC . It´s a blue print for the necessary upcoming BTC fork
[2016-08-11 23:27:47] newTraderGuy : https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/762312144411058177
[2016-08-11 23:28:00] Tetsuo : if it succeds, death to all crypto
[2016-08-11 23:28:41] pigeons : there is no necessary hard fork
[2016-08-11 23:28:50] ett1 : did barry make any comments on bitfinex
[2016-08-11 23:28:54] ett1 : at all
[2016-08-11 23:29:34] Tetsuo : Barry Silbert:" If you love con artists, buy BFX"
[2016-08-11 23:30:25] ett1 : did VCs and exchange operators know that bitfinex were shady beforehand. were they like outsiders
[2016-08-11 23:31:03] pigeons : everyone knew they were shady. they started running on known vulnerable unauthorized leaked/stolen bitcoinica ruby code
[2016-08-11 23:31:06] Tetsuo : everyone knew it, i posted about the shadiness of Bitfnex about a year ago
[2016-08-11 23:31:46] Tetsuo : i aöltough blackmailded them in 2014, coz there was a vulnerability. they didn´t pay me
[2016-08-11 23:31:54] pigeons : the guy was well known for pushing pirateat40/tendon shavers "passthrough" funds
[2016-08-11 23:31:59] Tetsuo : still have the emails and logs
[2016-08-11 23:32:06] Tetsuo : exchange was always fucked up
[2016-08-11 23:32:24] pigeons : yeah there were tons of vulnerabilites from the original bitcoinica code, lots of people emailed them and they removed them one by one
[2016-08-11 23:32:39] pigeons : but who wouldthink that was a good idea to run that crap, only bitcoinica
[2016-08-11 23:32:44] pigeons : i mean only bitfinex excuse me
[2016-08-11 23:32:45] Tetsuo : i only demanded 500 BTC, better should have payed me
[2016-08-11 23:33:08] ett1 : what was the price back then
[2016-08-11 23:33:32] Tetsuo : February 2014
[2016-08-11 23:33:35] Tetsuo : have to look
[2016-08-11 23:33:56] ett1 : Tetsuo: did you find that recent vulnerability lol
[2016-08-11 23:33:58] Tetsuo : * about 500$
[2016-08-11 23:34:07] ett1 : ah ok
[2016-08-11 23:34:37] pigeons : yeh should have asked for 12kbtc like this guy
[2016-08-11 23:34:50] Tetsuo : they wrote something like: " sure we will pay you, but first you have to tell us what exactly the vulnerability is about
[2016-08-11 23:34:56] Tetsuo : gave them hints , they demanded more
[2016-08-11 23:35:01] ett1 : Tetsuo: you told them what it was, and they didnt pay you after. or they just ignored the offer
[2016-08-11 23:35:02] Tetsuo : fuck them
[2016-08-11 23:35:30] ett1 : got it
[2016-08-11 23:36:36] ett1 : you could have stolen all their coins using the vulnerability?
[2016-08-11 23:36:45] Tetsuo : I left them in early 2014 after i discovered it, i even posted about it @ bitcointalk.org
[2016-08-11 23:38:27] Tetsuo : ett1: i could have serioulsy messed up theri trading engine, using fake USD and fake BTC in the orderbook to manipulate the price
[2016-08-11 23:38:59] Tetsuo : bug wasn´t about stelaing coins, more about manipulating everything severe
[2016-08-11 23:39:11] Tetsuo : total noob bug if you aske me
[2016-08-11 23:39:44] lockhedge : Tetsuo: your bitcointalk.org username is fonzie?
[2016-08-11 23:39:53] Tetsuo : yes
[2016-08-11 23:41:05] Tetsuo : i will look for the blackmail e-mail on my computer and post it here in the next days,
[2016-08-11 23:41:53] Tetsuo : they were just as arrogant and confident as they are now
[2016-08-11 23:46:17] lockhedge : they don't seem to have a bug bounty program https://bugcrowd.com/list-of-bug-bounty-programs (BitMEX, Coinbase, itBit, Kraken on the list)
[2016-08-11 23:56:44] Tetsuo : i even win the 2015 prediction contest, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553123.msg10950681#msg10950681
[2016-08-11 23:57:19] Tetsuo : maybe if everyone would just listen to me , the world would be a better place, lel
[2016-08-11 23:59:35] Tetsuo : look at what those fools voted at that time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553123.msg8162779#msg8162779
[2016-08-12 00:13:22] miramm1115 : bfx coin still too expensive for some reason
[2016-08-12 00:14:11] miramm1115 : not sure who's buying except maybe finex themselves
[2016-08-12 00:15:11] lockhedge : miramm1115: PGP said that they are not buying, they would only redeem at full value
[2016-08-12 00:16:09] miramm1115 : was it in the latest whaleclub interview? didn't have time to listen yet.
[2016-08-12 00:16:21] lockhedge : yes
[2016-08-12 00:16:35] miramm1115 : btw, got 100% usd back
[2016-08-12 00:17:10] miramm1115 : fdic insurance ftw ;-)
[2016-08-12 00:19:35] j8 : synapsepay?
[2016-08-12 00:21:48] miramm1115 : yes, our verified account was funded using ACH from US bank account, and apparently all ACHs are processed using SynapsePay.
[2016-08-12 00:22:26] j8 : lucky
[2016-08-12 00:22:55] miramm1115 : yeah, had 3 times more USD than BTC there
[2016-08-12 00:23:31] j8 : i was all in usd and maxed out short.. kinda got screwed
[2016-08-12 00:23:53] miramm1115 : yeah, worse case scenario for you :-(
[2016-08-12 00:24:09] miramm1115 : settled @ 604?
[2016-08-12 00:25:00] j8 : yes, and for a long period i didn't know if it would be settled or not.. at first they said they were only settling affected accounts
[2016-08-12 00:25:54] j8 : so i ended up super long going down to 500 and below.. a bit uncomfortable
[2016-08-12 00:26:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hey what is the link to the reddit bitfniex blog
[2016-08-12 00:27:01] miramm1115 : yeah, so unprofessional :-( I thought you were on vacation and out of all positions. was it a hedge of your bitcoin holdings?
[2016-08-12 00:27:44] j8 : miramm1115: yeah, i hedged on bitfinex because i was worried about socialized losses on futures.. lol kinda backfired
[2016-08-12 00:28:57] j8 : oh well. i got my 62% out anyway. life goes on
[2016-08-12 00:38:46] miramm1115 : j8: yeah, I gave up on proper hedging. I keep partial hedges for trading capital but I convert almost all profit to USD/CAD right away
[2016-08-12 00:40:41] j8 : yeah, thats really the way to go. markets are not really mature enough to be always in
[2016-08-12 01:41:52] Rado : I am doing exactly the opposite
[2016-08-12 01:42:08] Rado : I convert all profit to BTC
[2016-08-12 01:42:17] Rado : for my retirement :)
[2016-08-12 01:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1075 @ 0.003356
[2016-08-12 01:48:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 133 @ 0.003354
[2016-08-12 02:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1500 @ 0.003467
[2016-08-12 02:18:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1199 @ 0.003514
[2016-08-12 02:33:15] unsure : wtf does maintenance margin mean?
[2016-08-12 02:39:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 583.90
[2016-08-12 02:46:01] Rado : unsure: how much BTC from your balance is needed to keep your positions
[2016-08-12 02:46:49] Rado : I guess your nick directly represents your state of mind
[2016-08-12 02:48:44] ayy_lmao : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/maintenancemargin.asp
[2016-08-12 02:48:59] ayy_lmao : investopedia is your friend
[2016-08-12 03:27:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1085 @ 583.21
[2016-08-12 03:35:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4700 @ 582.83
[2016-08-12 03:36:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 6000 @ 59700.0
[2016-08-12 03:36:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1700 @ 581.78
[2016-08-12 03:53:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 101 @ 581.34
[2016-08-12 03:55:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 581.22
[2016-08-12 03:55:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 581.13
[2016-08-12 03:56:39] ayy_lmao : nobody has enough money on finex to dump lmao
[2016-08-12 04:04:35] Ludwig : any chinese here?
[2016-08-12 04:08:35] Ludwig : is it only 1% margin will beforehand margin call ?
[2016-08-12 04:18:30] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: for XBTUSD, the default maintain margin is 0.5%
[2016-08-12 04:24:07] Ludwig : should i pay the loss if over margin
[2016-08-12 04:25:18] Ludwig : BitMEX_Jinming:
[2016-08-12 04:30:07] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: if you have less than maintain margin, your position will be liquidated.
[2016-08-12 04:31:04] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: https://www.bitmex.com/app/liquidation
[2016-08-12 04:47:07] Ludwig : BitMEX_Jinming: Are there any open order limit? like buy +5% or sell -5%
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 155 @ 0.003043
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.003402
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1417 @ 0.003379
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 7500 @ 0.003080
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 30 @ 0.003355
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.003055
[2016-08-12 04:49:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 460 @ 0.003127
[2016-08-12 04:51:00] kingjay36 : wow
[2016-08-12 04:51:03] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-12 04:51:16] kingjay36 : u got rekt =(
[2016-08-12 04:51:20] kingjay36 : i
[2016-08-12 04:51:31] ayy_lmao : would have got margin called had i held my etc long
[2016-08-12 05:05:36] floreslorca : im trying to log in
[2016-08-12 05:05:45] floreslorca : and im getting an error saying "incorrect recaptcha
[2016-08-12 05:05:55] floreslorca : but there is no recaptcha wtf
[2016-08-12 05:06:30] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: no such limit as long as you have enough margin to back those orders once filled.
[2016-08-12 05:07:39] BitMEX_Jinming : floreslorca: where are you located? We know that in China recaptcha is blocked so user can't see it, and we are working on the solution.
[2016-08-12 05:08:56] Ludwig : i mean price, like price now is 500$, can i buy to 1000$ at once ?
[2016-08-12 05:10:45] BitMEX_Jinming : Ludwig: yes, and you will sweep the asks in the order book.
[2016-08-12 05:11:28] j8 : Ludwig: yeah do it!
[2016-08-12 05:11:47] Ludwig : LOL
[2016-08-12 05:13:10] j8 : highest ask is 898.26 though. if you have 162 bitcoin you could buy it all
[2016-08-12 05:13:28] Ludwig : floreslorca: shadowsocks can help u
[2016-08-12 05:13:37] j8 : or way more with risk limits i guess
[2016-08-12 05:20:58] rapidtrades : what's the running total withdrawn from shitnex
[2016-08-12 05:22:49] rapidtrades : btw why was reddit down for 'emergency maintenance'
[2016-08-12 05:23:42] rapidtrades : fishy how it coincided with us started our new sub https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal
[2016-08-12 05:25:22] rapidtrades : also this https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4x9c98/cryptsy_ceo_stole_millions_from_exchange_court/
[2016-08-12 05:25:45] rapidtrades : looks like dipping into customer funds is a big temptation for these ppl
[2016-08-12 05:29:10] rapidtrades : Arthur: ' "Even though Bitfinex explicitly said it has no obligations to ever pay back a dime to BFX token holders, traders still ascribe a healthy value to the token."
[2016-08-12 05:29:24] rapidtrades : still bringing that burn
[2016-08-12 05:32:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 60 @ 0.003432
[2016-08-12 05:41:28] zanza : illuminati rapidtrades
[2016-08-12 05:41:55] zanza : so did willybot uninstall his computer
[2016-08-12 05:42:04] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-08-12 06:47:14] rapidtrades : zanza: wat
[2016-08-12 06:49:08] rapidtrades : are bitfinex ppl still doing the withdrawls manually?
[2016-08-12 06:51:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 25 @ 0.02020
[2016-08-12 06:53:41] sq : BitMEX_Jinming: is the funding right? 0.0078%
[2016-08-12 06:53:50] sq : i think it hasnt changed for really long
[2016-08-12 06:54:59] germanjew : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory?start=0
[2016-08-12 06:55:05] germanjew : Two previous times have been the same
[2016-08-12 06:55:11] germanjew : atleast for XBTUSD
[2016-08-12 06:59:59] BitMEX_Jinming : sq: yeah it means the premium index doesn't change much.
[2016-08-12 07:01:22] sq : ok
[2016-08-12 07:01:47] germanjew : Is there somewhere where I can see funding payouts?
[2016-08-12 07:03:02] germanjew : Ah nvm
[2016-08-12 07:04:28] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Jinming: so since bitfinex is not out of commission, there is no funding charge only premium/discount?
[2016-08-12 07:04:49] rapidtrades : previously there was a small % added based on interest rates overe there
[2016-08-12 07:05:52] rapidtrades : finex API is still broken...this is hilarious
[2016-08-12 07:06:41] sq : BitMEX_Jinming: spot is around 585.56, your swap at 586.50, funding shoud be more than 0.0078%?
[2016-08-12 07:06:50] sq : just off the envelop.. doesnt seem v right
[2016-08-12 07:07:07] sq : i might be wrong
[2016-08-12 07:07:57] rapidtrades : sq: funding is not real time...it's average of 8hr perio last counted 8 hrs ago
[2016-08-12 07:08:26] rapidtrades : like right now...those stats u said would be included in the next funding starting from 8 pm UTC
[2016-08-12 07:08:47] sq : yeah, agree
[2016-08-12 07:10:09] sq : just that the predicted funding should slowly change.. but i dont see it
[2016-08-12 07:10:14] sq : well. we will see
[2016-08-12 07:23:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 587.78
[2016-08-12 07:23:14] BitMEX_Wally : The funding rate is currently the stale BON rate and it only changes if the premium index is more than 0.05% different
[2016-08-12 07:27:03] sq : ic cool
[2016-08-12 07:28:40] sq : tks
[2016-08-12 07:35:38] TA : btc on its wy up?
[2016-08-12 07:40:05] TA : or just teasing on its way down?
[2016-08-12 07:42:34] Martinos : thats the question:)
[2016-08-12 07:44:36] TA : Martinos: what do you think?
[2016-08-12 07:45:31] Martinos : looks pretty solid to me
[2016-08-12 07:45:44] TA : Martinos: going to test 650?
[2016-08-12 07:46:39] Martinos : i think test 600
[2016-08-12 07:46:58] TA : we have major resistance there?
[2016-08-12 07:47:27] TA : is there a site where we can see all the btc order books?
[2016-08-12 07:47:47] Martinos : bitcoinwisdom ?
[2016-08-12 07:48:53] TA : okay..thanks ..so are you long in btc?
[2016-08-12 07:50:56] Martinos : im watching the test of the upside
[2016-08-12 07:51:20] Martinos : im expecting a test of 550 too
[2016-08-12 07:51:31] Martinos : so i dont know
[2016-08-12 07:51:38] TA : oh okay
[2016-08-12 07:51:54] TA : but if it goes down..it will test 490-500
[2016-08-12 07:52:06] TA : thats where the major res is
[2016-08-12 07:52:26] Martinos : that would be a big drop
[2016-08-12 07:52:29] Martinos : well see
[2016-08-12 07:53:08] TA : and imo..if it crosses 600..it goes back up to 650
[2016-08-12 08:00:02] men : ltc will skyrocket! :D
[2016-08-12 08:00:17] Tetsuo : men: plz stop trolling
[2016-08-12 08:02:18] men : Tetsuo: i'm not trolling.. i'm saying this because on polo the buy order are increasing and there are 164 btc in .00636 area
[2016-08-12 09:15:41] 4lph4 : soooooooo boring
[2016-08-12 09:16:24] Mm bot : 4lph4: get some popcorn to watch BTC crash soon.
[2016-08-12 09:16:47] 4lph4 : Mm bot: anything to support that statement?
[2016-08-12 09:21:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 45 @ 0.003200
[2016-08-12 09:33:55] Mm bot : 4lph4: wait and see, sentiment is bad, customers are unhappy, BFX dropping in value
[2016-08-12 09:35:14] Martinos : :(
[2016-08-12 09:35:25] 4lph4 : Mm bot: so did you really mean "crash" or just a price correction?
[2016-08-12 09:35:32] 4lph4 : because crash is something different
[2016-08-12 09:37:06] Mm bot : 4lph4:yes
[2016-08-12 09:41:42] Tetsuo : Huge amounts of pain and misery are prepared for BTC holders
[2016-08-12 09:43:41] Martinos : Maybe the chinese are buying then
[2016-08-12 09:45:35] Tetsuo : they will probably start buyin @ ~1000CNY
[2016-08-12 09:48:18] Martinos : haha
[2016-08-12 09:49:19] muirtastic : So Zane Tackett, Bitfinex lackey hasn't responded for 18 hrs on reddit and also the .30 support for BFX finally broke and down 10%. Coincidence of fate?
[2016-08-12 09:49:27] muirtastic : Or fate
[2016-08-12 09:49:42] muirtastic : I shorted some more BFX, just in case
[2016-08-12 09:52:55] Tetsuo : still nothing about - how the hack happened - how they came up with their 36% numbers - what BFX is representing
[2016-08-12 09:54:29] Tetsuo : ---> more bad news soon
[2016-08-12 09:57:48] muirtastic : yes I bet they took money from the margin longs losing positions and included that in the haircut as well.
[2016-08-12 09:57:57] muirtastic : Someone needs to do a full audit of their books
[2016-08-12 09:58:53] Tetsuo : not gonna happen
[2016-08-12 10:28:33] rapidtrades : so the BFX token here is based on dollar value right...but the PnL moves based on BTC
[2016-08-12 10:28:37] rapidtrades : that's weird
[2016-08-12 10:29:22] rapidtrades : so if token falls in value BTC should fall too, makes it not a good hedge
[2016-08-12 10:37:52] rapidtrades : i suspect smth very illegal has been going on over there....maybe not malicious maybe smth like insider trading on the platform running bots etc
[2016-08-12 10:38:26] rapidtrades : in any case starting up with a such big hole knowing ppl will sue says to me they are desperate
[2016-08-12 10:38:27] 4lph4 : well I thought it's 100% certain that they engage in insider trading
[2016-08-12 10:38:48] rapidtrades : well yes they admitted to trading on their site
[2016-08-12 10:39:11] rapidtrades : but im talking about running bots like okc where noone can compete
[2016-08-12 10:39:19] 4lph4 : they also said they won't do it for BFX, as if they were doing it for anything else
[2016-08-12 10:39:21] rapidtrades : that exchange was always kinda fishy
[2016-08-12 10:39:38] rapidtrades : spreads were frequently 0.01 yet fees didn't justify those tight spreads
[2016-08-12 10:39:51] rapidtrades : those are spreads for no fees exchanges
[2016-08-12 10:40:31] rapidtrades : it was next to impossible to get executed unless u clogged up the bid/ask asap
[2016-08-12 10:41:02] rapidtrades : it's likely that their MM bots got caught during that giant rally we had and suffered major losses
[2016-08-12 10:42:04] rapidtrades : just speculation of course but they are definitely covering up smth
[2016-08-12 10:45:15] rapidtrades : a bunch of them are in America so not doubt why they're giving ameros special treatment
[2016-08-12 10:45:32] CP : Hi. Is there any way I can roll the ETC weekly future? Or do you just need to market buy/sell after settlement at 12 UTC today?
[2016-08-12 10:49:41] rapidtrades : have to buy/sell
[2016-08-12 10:56:10] CP : Ok thx @rapidtrades!
[2016-08-12 10:58:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.003174
[2016-08-12 10:58:02] VenCap : When do the margins profits get paid out today?
[2016-08-12 10:58:45] VenCap : ahok i see the unlock time :O)
[2016-08-12 10:59:29] rapidtrades : yeah 1h :)
[2016-08-12 11:21:54] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4xd0ta/heres_why_bitfinex_is_not_like_mtgox/
[2016-08-12 11:39:45] Martinos : does not look btc wants up
[2016-08-12 11:41:01] 4lph4 : to be honest it won't announce it
[2016-08-12 11:43:21] Tetsuo : 4lph4: a 10k BTC buy order on Stamp sure could lead the way
[2016-08-12 11:44:05] Martinos : where i dont see it
[2016-08-12 11:44:28] Tetsuo : only in a wet bulls dream
[2016-08-12 11:44:55] Martinos : haha
[2016-08-12 11:47:39] Tetsuo : "Cryptsy CEO Paul Vernon may have stolen as much as $3.3m from the now-defunct digital currency exchange and destroyed evidence of his illicit actions." That´s what Finex is doing right now, only on a larger scale
[2016-08-12 11:48:13] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4xd3sp/questions_about_class_action_lawsuit/
[2016-08-12 12:00:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 19667 @ 626.00
[2016-08-12 12:00:32] rapidtrades : dam ^^^ look at that bitch
[2016-08-12 12:02:14] ayy_lmao : why is etc at 0.004 lol
[2016-08-12 12:02:15] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-12 12:02:18] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2016-08-12 12:02:32] haxmb : ayyyylmao
[2016-08-12 12:02:35] haxmb : cheers for the money lads
[2016-08-12 12:02:39] ayy_lmao : i no rite
[2016-08-12 12:02:57] rapidtrades : what happened mah jews?
[2016-08-12 12:03:12] haxmb : someone's algo fucked up @ settlement bra
[2016-08-12 12:03:14] ayy_lmao : etc listed at 0.004 with liquidity
[2016-08-12 12:03:21] ayy_lmao : but at polo its at 0.0033
[2016-08-12 12:03:32] rapidtrades : i see it....smone panic rolled
[2016-08-12 12:03:34] haxmb : who's bots were it
[2016-08-12 12:03:38] haxmb : rofl
[2016-08-12 12:04:06] ayy_lmao : i almost didnt believe it at first
[2016-08-12 12:04:11] ayy_lmao : was too good to be true
[2016-08-12 12:04:31] haxmb : roflmao
[2016-08-12 12:05:35] rapidtrades : mm bot peaced out
[2016-08-12 12:05:41] haxmb : lol
[2016-08-12 12:06:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 46336 @ 0.003712 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-12 12:06:07] ayy_lmao : jREKT
[2016-08-12 12:06:11] ayy_lmao : rip bot
[2016-08-12 12:06:12] ayy_lmao : lolol
[2016-08-12 12:06:12] haxmb : llolwat
[2016-08-12 12:06:18] haxmb : how
[2016-08-12 12:06:19] ayy_lmao : 144.79%)
[2016-08-12 12:06:22] ayy_lmao : ayy lmao
[2016-08-12 12:06:36] rapidtrades : wat
[2016-08-12 12:06:39] haxmb : AYY LMAO WAT
[2016-08-12 12:06:41] rapidtrades : is happening
[2016-08-12 12:06:47] Tetsuo : lots of fun
[2016-08-12 12:06:51] haxmb : someone fucked up about 50 BTC there
[2016-08-12 12:07:04] rapidtrades : dam i didn't get any
[2016-08-12 12:07:15] haxmb : sold 80 btc worth @ 400+
[2016-08-12 12:07:21] haxmb : fuck me
[2016-08-12 12:07:29] haxmb : is this real live
[2016-08-12 12:07:31] haxmb : life*
[2016-08-12 12:07:36] rapidtrades : ahahaha nice one
[2016-08-12 12:07:37] aethlios : sold 5000 at 0.004
[2016-08-12 12:07:45] rapidtrades : i sold shit
[2016-08-12 12:08:06] haxmb : cheers for the 7+ grand lads
[2016-08-12 12:08:07] rapidtrades : could've sold at 35 got greedy :)
[2016-08-12 12:08:13] haxmb : wtf
[2016-08-12 12:08:27] haxmb : hola senor MM
[2016-08-12 12:08:30] haxmb : you back at it
[2016-08-12 12:08:38] Martinos : yw
[2016-08-12 12:08:43] ayy_lmao : and im out
[2016-08-12 12:08:46] ayy_lmao : thx mm
[2016-08-12 12:08:49] haxmb : <3 <3
[2016-08-12 12:09:04] haxmb : longed @ polo + kraken so im flat @ 14 btc gain
[2016-08-12 12:09:31] haxmb : $8k in 1 minute rofl
[2016-08-12 12:09:47] 4lph4 : so what was that?
[2016-08-12 12:09:49] 4lph4 : what happened?
[2016-08-12 12:10:00] haxmb : someone was buying @ 0.004+
[2016-08-12 12:10:05] haxmb : shitloads
[2016-08-12 12:10:11] haxmb : we sold into it
[2016-08-12 12:10:12] 4lph4 : fat fingers or what :p
[2016-08-12 12:10:21] haxmb : looks like it yeah
[2016-08-12 12:10:33] haxmb : and then 5 minutes later got REKT
[2016-08-12 12:10:41] haxmb : because he exceeded his risk limits grossly
[2016-08-12 12:10:46] 4lph4 : good job!
[2016-08-12 12:11:03] I-am-Legend : i dont get this
[2016-08-12 12:11:20] I-am-Legend : i had eth classic long open 3000 contracts
[2016-08-12 12:11:28] I-am-Legend : its gone i dont see any sign of it
[2016-08-12 12:11:37] I-am-Legend : even in account history
[2016-08-12 12:11:41] haxmb : I-am-Legend: ETC7D just settled
[2016-08-12 12:11:42] 4lph4 : I think it's a bit too late legend
[2016-08-12 12:12:01] I-am-Legend : what does that mean haxmb
[2016-08-12 12:12:16] haxmb : the contract expires
[2016-08-12 12:12:32] I-am-Legend : i had eth short contract open that is not expiring
[2016-08-12 12:12:40] I-am-Legend : been through 3 rebates
[2016-08-12 12:12:45] haxmb : eth classic != ETH
[2016-08-12 12:12:49] haxmb : eth classic = ETC
[2016-08-12 12:12:59] I-am-Legend : my eth contract on going
[2016-08-12 12:13:05] I-am-Legend : ETC contract expired
[2016-08-12 12:13:15] haxmb : yes
[2016-08-12 12:13:15] I-am-Legend : why does on stay live & other expires
[2016-08-12 12:13:26] haxmb : because its an expiring contract
[2016-08-12 12:13:31] haxmb : as it states in the description
[2016-08-12 12:13:51] BitMEX_Wally : Perpetual Swaps are perpetual. Whereas futures have an expiry date
[2016-08-12 12:13:56] BitMEX_Wally : The 7D means it expires every 7 days
[2016-08-12 12:14:09] haxmb : I-am-Legend: what @BitMEX_Wally says
[2016-08-12 12:14:18] I-am-Legend : dam so i had opened just before it expires
[2016-08-12 12:14:40] I-am-Legend : where do you see when they expire before you open
[2016-08-12 12:15:00] migz : That was fast.
[2016-08-12 12:15:11] haxmb : it says
[2016-08-12 12:15:18] I-am-Legend : Bitmex really need to get some proper videos showing noobs how to use the site, if im getting rekt should at least know why im getting rekt
[2016-08-12 12:15:18] haxmb : on the right topof the page
[2016-08-12 12:16:07] migz : They say you gotta read documentation. But it was too many, this site is not noob friendly.
[2016-08-12 12:16:22] migz : Been here for months, i am still getting rekt. lmao
[2016-08-12 12:16:29] I-am-Legend : on my ETH contract short it has removed some BTC as realized i was in a losing position, on first 2 settlements i gained interest on the last one it removed margin from me?
[2016-08-12 12:17:48] I-am-Legend : its mental ton of stuff i know nothing about, i tried watching CEO videos on youtube, they are terrible he just confuses you more sure he is a great CEO but those videos are bad for his business
[2016-08-12 12:18:04] I-am-Legend : i dont get why i paid out on my eth contract
[2016-08-12 12:18:19] haxmb : I-am-Legend: its the funding rate