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[2016-08-11 06:31:42] germanjew : perfect, thanks
[2016-08-11 06:32:00] BitMEX_Jinming : germanjew: you are welcome
[2016-08-11 06:50:21] germanjew : I feel silly for asking, but I can't find historic XBTUSD swap payouts, can someone point me in the right direction?
[2016-08-11 06:50:58] germanjew : or rather historical XBTUSD swap funding rates
[2016-08-11 06:53:17] Rado : germanjew: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2016-08-11 06:53:28] Rado : google is your friend
[2016-08-11 06:53:58] germanjew : thanks @Rado
[2016-08-11 06:53:59] Rado : https://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=bitmex%20funding%20rate%20history&oq=bitmex%20funding%20rate%20history&rlz=1C5CHFA_enCA686CA686&aqs=chrome..69i57.7939j0j7
[2016-08-11 06:54:03] Rado : np
[2016-08-11 06:54:43] Rado : here is XBTUSD only
[2016-08-11 06:54:45] Rado : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-08-11 06:55:44] Rado : well this is the premium
[2016-08-11 06:56:06] germanjew : The last link is only the premium right? Adding {"symbol":"XBTUSD"} into the funding history table gets me what I want
[2016-08-11 06:56:11] germanjew : ah, thanks
[2016-08-11 07:09:29] rapidtrades : who's interested in joining a lawsuit
[2016-08-11 07:09:48] rapidtrades : 2. has anyone tried emailing them requesting total funds like sleger
[2016-08-11 07:09:55] rapidtrades : that was 2.
[2016-08-11 07:27:08] germanjew : 1. Not currently, I'm still considering my options and giving bfx a while longer to respond properly. 2. I have not, here I'm also waiting a little longer before sending that email. From: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wmpzt/bitfinex_assets_remaining/ it does seem like they are including their assets (atleast in part) to ease the haircut
[2016-08-11 07:28:56] sleger : germanjew: you have nothing to gain from waiting in doing 2 though
[2016-08-11 07:29:01] sleger : and you lose time.
[2016-08-11 07:30:06] rapidtrades : agree...they may try to 'buy time' and fullfill early requests
[2016-08-11 07:30:37] rapidtrades : sleger: did u ask for a bank withdrawal or just to convert ur worthless tokens back to usd?
[2016-08-11 07:30:59] sleger : i asked for withdrawal of everything
[2016-08-11 07:31:31] rapidtrades : and u gave them ur bank account i assume
[2016-08-11 07:32:03] sleger : yes
[2016-08-11 07:32:19] rapidtrades : im not verified so requesting that will give them an easy delay
[2016-08-11 07:32:35] rapidtrades : but sire we have to verify thy first
[2016-08-11 07:32:54] sleger : then send whatever they need to verify someone in the same email
[2016-08-11 07:33:26] rapidtrades : unfortunately I don't have all the docs they need
[2016-08-11 07:33:44] rapidtrades : but i can prolly gather them in few days
[2016-08-11 07:34:01] rapidtrades : usually companies reqest 1 ID and 1 proof of address
[2016-08-11 07:34:28] rapidtrades : they need 4 different docs...
[2016-08-11 07:41:57] rapidtrades : sleger: do u think legally it matters whether u request or as bank wire or as credit back to ur account?
[2016-08-11 07:42:18] rapidtrades : or is it because u expect them to run out of bitcoins soon
[2016-08-11 07:45:12] rapidtrades : lol found this gem while looking through their TOS ' Segregated customer wallets are a form of Bitcoin storage that allow Bitfinex to store users' bitcoin in individual, multi-sig protected segregated wallets. By utilizing this system Bitfinex allows their users to independently verify their bitcoin on the Blockchain providing near-real-time proof-of-reserves.'
[2016-08-11 07:48:20] rapidtrades : btw doesn't this pair mean we can see out tokens ''The token has been issued to you without reduction of or other release or waiver of any claims you may have against the Bitfinex Group. Similarly, the Bitfinex Group has not waived any claims or defences it may have under the Terms of Use or otherwise should you choose to assert any claims independent of the token''
[2016-08-11 07:48:47] rapidtrades : doesn't this part mean we can sell our tokens without losing the right to sue ^^^
[2016-08-11 07:48:53] rapidtrades : it's from their terms
[2016-08-11 07:53:03] sleger : rapidtrades: that' what it says yes
[2016-08-11 07:53:43] sleger : but not everything one rights is applicable in a court of law, a court might decide that you selling them means you waive your rights to sue
[2016-08-11 07:54:16] sleger : *not everything one says
[2016-08-11 07:57:36] rapidtrades : but they're explicitly saying it doesn't waive ur rights
[2016-08-11 07:58:53] rapidtrades : 9 out of 10 lawyers agree with me
[2016-08-11 07:59:35] rapidtrades : i can't even find their kyc requirements...i search tos, support section
[2016-08-11 07:59:53] rapidtrades : i vaguely remember what they need but want to confirm
[2016-08-11 08:03:31] rapidtrades : guy back in fev2016: I was complaining with no reason. In fact Bitfinex support already contacted me and my issue is now solved! They were pretty fast to solve my issues. Now, my regard on their trust level has increased to absolute confidence!
[2016-08-11 08:03:46] rapidtrades : ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE!
[2016-08-11 08:15:58] aethlios : finex highest volume in btcusd pair
[2016-08-11 08:18:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hey, the won't give me access.
[2016-08-11 08:19:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Here is the message. Notice: Your account is currently restricted from withdrawing because your BitGo wallet is frozen and accurate accounting can not be determined for your balances.
[2016-08-11 08:19:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : Said to contact support but they have not gotten back to me
[2016-08-11 08:20:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : They are usually prompt with answers
[2016-08-11 08:20:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitgo ignores me completely
[2016-08-11 08:21:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : The hack was definitely through Bitgo
[2016-08-11 08:21:39] rapidtrades : thaat sucks
[2016-08-11 08:21:56] rapidtrades : did u try messaging this cunt https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-11 08:21:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : They cleaned out my account on bitgo and nothing shows at Biffinex
[2016-08-11 08:22:07] rapidtrades : cu.nt not kitten ofc
[2016-08-11 08:22:24] rapidtrades : wait a min
[2016-08-11 08:22:53] rapidtrades : so they're not reimbursing hacked wallets YET they're taking 36% from everyone
[2016-08-11 08:24:04] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: was ur individual wallet hacked
[2016-08-11 08:24:54] rapidtrades : sleger: did u address their HK or BVI entity? also what laws did u cite hk or bvi
[2016-08-11 08:26:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : I sent a wire. The wire was converted to btc and btc hacked out. Never showed at Bitfinex
[2016-08-11 08:26:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : I converted wire to btc.
[2016-08-11 08:26:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : i send out to two withdrawals
[2016-08-11 08:27:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Both verified and approved !!!!
[2016-08-11 08:27:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : Only after the shut down did I check Bitgo
[2016-08-11 08:27:29] rapidtrades : lol
[2016-08-11 08:28:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitgo send out the btc before I was notified that the wire arrived!!!
[2016-08-11 08:28:30] rapidtrades : wow
[2016-08-11 08:28:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : I suspected nothing except slow day for BTC delivery
[2016-08-11 08:29:01] rapidtrades : what time was this
[2016-08-11 08:29:15] rapidtrades : aug2 hack day right
[2016-08-11 08:29:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : But the hack was in Bitgo and Bitgo activity was never reflected in Bitfines account
[2016-08-11 08:29:30] rapidtrades : woah
[2016-08-11 08:29:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thanks for the link. Looks like the hold is for USA accounts only
[2016-08-11 08:30:20] rapidtrades : are u US
[2016-08-11 08:37:36] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: try posting about ur problem on reddit
[2016-08-11 08:47:47] rapidtrades : this hack and the way it was handled will do a lot of damage, could see plenty of ppl leaving crypto for good
[2016-08-11 08:52:54] habibi : rapidtrades: yea coz the way they handle it on gox = banckrupcy was freakin awsome and wasn't harmful at all as i understand that the second option
[2016-08-11 08:53:36] rapidtrades : habibi: yeah and what did we get afer gox?
[2016-08-11 08:53:43] rapidtrades : a multi-year bear market U DUMMY
[2016-08-11 08:54:20] habibi : that's my point u dummy unintelligent person that doesn't understand irony.
[2016-08-11 08:54:25] rapidtrades : good thing is trading may get easier as some players get flushed out
[2016-08-11 08:54:43] rapidtrades : habibi: HOW IS IT IRONIC WHEN IT COMPLETELY CONFIRMS MY POINT
[2016-08-11 08:55:03] habibi : u really think gox way of handling is less harmful for crypto eco system?
[2016-08-11 08:55:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : Actually they are handling it fairly well in my opinion
[2016-08-11 08:55:30] rapidtrades : WTF GOAT
[2016-08-11 08:55:34] rapidtrades : U JUST LOST ALL UR MONIES
[2016-08-11 08:55:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : An could come out on top if lessons are learned
[2016-08-11 08:55:42] habibi : finally someone who sees fair point
[2016-08-11 08:56:01] rapidtrades : rapidtrades: this hack and the way it was handled will do a lot of damage, could see plenty of ppl leaving crypto for good
[2016-08-11 08:56:07] rapidtrades : habibi: DUMMY
[2016-08-11 08:56:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Well no the clipped me for the 30% plus
[2016-08-11 08:56:17] habibi : now u starting talking to urself, nice.
[2016-08-11 08:56:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : But the hack was in Bitgo
[2016-08-11 08:56:43] rapidtrades : u still lost everything ddn't u
[2016-08-11 08:56:51] rapidtrades : so how are they handling it well
[2016-08-11 08:56:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.003224
[2016-08-11 08:56:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : It was like a dsconnect between Bitgo and Bitnfinex
[2016-08-11 08:57:16] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
[2016-08-11 08:57:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not that at all
[2016-08-11 08:58:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : I got hit at scrypt.cc
[2016-08-11 08:58:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : I also got hit at cyptsy
[2016-08-11 08:59:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : But I made a bundle at script and lost abut 5 btc at Crypsty
[2016-08-11 08:59:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am out about 10btc at Bitifinex if i can access my account
[2016-08-11 09:00:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : But I made a whole lot more than that at Bitfinex as I do a lot of arb
[2016-08-11 09:01:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : I really hope they survive and I will continue with them if they just give me the clip and their IOU
[2016-08-11 09:01:41] Tetsuo : wow
[2016-08-11 09:01:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : I also got hacked at another major exchange which I won't mention
[2016-08-11 09:02:05] Tetsuo : u seem to be a lucky guy who is aware of risks
[2016-08-11 09:02:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : But it was kind of a joint effort so we worked out a deal where I trade for free and will make up the loss over time
[2016-08-11 09:02:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : Already made it all back up until this Bitfines hack
[2016-08-11 09:05:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : I love crypto, but the risks are incredible
[2016-08-11 09:05:18] Tetsuo : "Rape me"
[2016-08-11 09:05:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : I trade tremendously well, but have given back at least 25% in hacks
[2016-08-11 09:06:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : I like this market, but find it difficult due to the huge spreads
[2016-08-11 09:06:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : I use it primarily for heding
[2016-08-11 09:06:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : hedgin
[2016-08-11 09:06:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : hedging
[2016-08-11 09:07:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : And for spec
[2016-08-11 09:07:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : But I make my bones in arb
[2016-08-11 09:10:47] rapidtrades : yeah im done with arbing
[2016-08-11 09:11:04] rapidtrades : i lost all my arb profits this year in that 'socialized loss'
[2016-08-11 09:11:28] rapidtrades : the arbs are there because of the high counter-party risk
[2016-08-11 09:12:14] rapidtrades : long-term you will likely not come out ahead
[2016-08-11 09:12:24] UglyOldGoat : Anybody home?
[2016-08-11 09:13:07] rapidtrades : yeah ur whore mother is at home, serving customers
[2016-08-11 09:13:07] Tetsuo : everybodys at the doctor gettin an Anus praeter
[2016-08-11 09:15:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have been doing this since August 2013 which is long term in crypto
[2016-08-11 09:15:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : made money every year, even in down markets
[2016-08-11 09:16:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : And despite getting clipped at Bitfinex, Cryptsy , Script and by the way also Coinbase!!!
[2016-08-11 09:16:35] rapidtrades : coinbase u say?
[2016-08-11 09:16:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, Coinbase!!!
[2016-08-11 09:16:45] rapidtrades : when did coinbase get haxed
[2016-08-11 09:16:47] rapidtrades : !!!!!
[2016-08-11 09:16:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not hacked
[2016-08-11 09:17:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : They closed my account without cause
[2016-08-11 09:17:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Which is fine, but the way they did it
[2016-08-11 09:17:32] rapidtrades : yeah that's coinbase for u
[2016-08-11 09:17:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : I used the to cover my arbvs
[2016-08-11 09:18:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : The did not honor over 50 btc I had ordered buy had not been paid with ACH
[2016-08-11 09:18:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : And the ACH paid were closed out for the price I paid when delivery was due!!
[2016-08-11 09:19:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : I had about 40btc bot $100 below the current market and also my hedges where blown out
[2016-08-11 09:19:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : I sued them. And they settled with me
[2016-08-11 09:19:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : But I do not recommend doing that
[2016-08-11 09:20:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am also a jailhouse lawyer so know my way around the courts.
[2016-08-11 09:20:32] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-08-11 09:20:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bascially, don't fuck with me.
[2016-08-11 09:20:54] rapidtrades : wanna sue bitfinex?
[2016-08-11 09:21:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : No, not unless I have too
[2016-08-11 09:21:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : And it will not be them
[2016-08-11 09:21:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : They are in Hong Hong
[2016-08-11 09:21:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitgo is in CA and I am in CA
[2016-08-11 09:21:40] rapidtrades : check out our new sub https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-11 09:23:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : The class action is a very bad idea
[2016-08-11 09:23:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : Only the lawyers benefit
[2016-08-11 09:23:10] rapidtrades : or a very good idea
[2016-08-11 09:23:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : A horrible idea
[2016-08-11 09:23:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : You will get little or nothing
[2016-08-11 09:23:43] rapidtrades : dude its' the only way to sue when u don't have 50k-100k on the line
[2016-08-11 09:23:46] rapidtrades : what do u suggest
[2016-08-11 09:23:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you win the lawyers and dispersment eats up everything
[2016-08-11 09:24:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : Wrong
[2016-08-11 09:24:08] rapidtrades : we just need to force them into bankruptsy
[2016-08-11 09:24:23] rapidtrades : this isn't a usual years long trial iwtha solvent company
[2016-08-11 09:24:35] rapidtrades : after they're declared broke, liquidator takes over
[2016-08-11 09:24:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : Plus the terms and conditions ususaly waive class action and require arbitration
[2016-08-11 09:25:09] rapidtrades : well there's nothing in the terms about socializing losses either
[2016-08-11 09:25:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : But you can go to small claims and easily win $10k
[2016-08-11 09:25:15] habibi : rapidtrades: u wanna see blood, tip from me, wait up to 6 months and if u won't recover substantial/whole part of hair cut then do whatever u want. Just a tip
[2016-08-11 09:25:33] rapidtrades : bitfinex will not last 6 months dude
[2016-08-11 09:25:48] habibi : rapidtrades: do u want to put money on ur mouth or u still scared?
[2016-08-11 09:25:54] rapidtrades : sleger told u that the first guy who doesn't get his money can decalre them insolvent
[2016-08-11 09:25:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : Agreed, but it is the only solution and one this platform recongized from the outset
[2016-08-11 09:26:50] rapidtrades : please tell me how am i suppose to file a small claims toward a company in HK/BVI
[2016-08-11 09:27:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : They are essentially offering an IOU which I will accept
[2016-08-11 09:27:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : I do not want to sue Bitgo either
[2016-08-11 09:27:30] rapidtrades : 1. i will need a local lawyer 2. or expensive plane ticket and then i have to stay there for days/months
[2016-08-11 09:27:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : I truly want these companies to succeed
[2016-08-11 09:27:40] habibi : rapidtrades: u so sure about ur thinks, comeone lets bet. 1 btc from me for that u will recover at least substantial part of loss( more than 40% lets say) If not u win
[2016-08-11 09:27:53] rapidtrades : 40% not good enough
[2016-08-11 09:28:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : So why not work with them for a reasonable solution?
[2016-08-11 09:28:21] rapidtrades : over 80% i would consider a good deal
[2016-08-11 09:28:32] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: i will try...emaling them today
[2016-08-11 09:28:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : emailing who about what?
[2016-08-11 09:29:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitfinex?
[2016-08-11 09:29:05] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-08-11 09:29:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Wait and see how things pan out
[2016-08-11 09:29:26] rapidtrades : wtf u ppl are retarded
[2016-08-11 09:29:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Every indication is they are not running or hiding but meeting the challenge head on?
[2016-08-11 09:30:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you get clipped for the 35% how much are you down?
[2016-08-11 09:30:01] habibi : rapidtrades: u said finex won't exist in 6 months so it should be still sure bet for u anyway. don't be fuckin pussy
[2016-08-11 09:30:14] rapidtrades : doesn't matter it only takes 1 unpaid claim to force them into liquidation/restructuring
[2016-08-11 09:30:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : The have a good platform and the momentum for success
[2016-08-11 09:30:37] rapidtrades : are u kidding
[2016-08-11 09:30:52] rapidtrades : their platform crashes whenever there's load
[2016-08-11 09:30:58] rapidtrades : its laggy piece of shit
[2016-08-11 09:31:06] habibi : and u still used that u piece of shit?
[2016-08-11 09:31:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am a decent sized trader and will resume has soon as I get access the the 65% left
[2016-08-11 09:31:14] rapidtrades : their momentum is 50% of customers cashing out
[2016-08-11 09:31:27] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: u love rape like Tetsuo said
[2016-08-11 09:31:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am sure other large players will do the same
[2016-08-11 09:31:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Its not rape
[2016-08-11 09:31:47] habibi : Ugly_Old_Goat: he got 3 btc at the time of hack and i guess mayb twice in usd
[2016-08-11 09:31:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am free white and 21
[2016-08-11 09:31:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : I knew what I was getting into
[2016-08-11 09:32:09] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: ur right...guess u like getting f*cked in the ass
[2016-08-11 09:32:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : Read the terms of service
[2016-08-11 09:32:28] rapidtrades : THERE'S NOTHING IN THE TERMS ABOUT SOCIALIZING LOSSES
[2016-08-11 09:32:39] rapidtrades : but u know what's there? segregated wallets
[2016-08-11 09:32:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : It is unfortunate but they are not disappearing like cryptsy or scrypt.cc
[2016-08-11 09:33:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : And they are not dishonest like Coinbase
[2016-08-11 09:33:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : They just fucked up big time
[2016-08-11 09:33:20] rapidtrades : they are dishonest
[2016-08-11 09:33:27] rapidtrades : wtf is wrong with u ppl
[2016-08-11 09:33:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : How?
[2016-08-11 09:33:53] rapidtrades : wtf is that token? it's not even backed by antyhing....not redeemable its shit
[2016-08-11 09:34:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : The got hacked and they shut down as soon as they caught it
[2016-08-11 09:34:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Too bad it took so long
[2016-08-11 09:34:12] rapidtrades : it's basically a 'plz dont use us cos u may get ur monies at some date in the future'
[2016-08-11 09:34:40] rapidtrades : f*ck em i don't want that shit
[2016-08-11 09:34:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : This hack had to be done by a gang because they hit the Bitgo accounts quickly
[2016-08-11 09:35:02] rapidtrades : do u know scripts bro
[2016-08-11 09:35:07] rapidtrades : how about inside job
[2016-08-11 09:35:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : Fine, read the terms and conditions
[2016-08-11 09:35:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : You essentially agreed to it
[2016-08-11 09:35:25] rapidtrades : agreeed to what lol
[2016-08-11 09:35:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not what you planned, not what they planeed
[2016-08-11 09:35:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : shit happends
[2016-08-11 09:36:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Read the terms and conditions
[2016-08-11 09:36:02] rapidtrades : shit happens? yeah thats gonna hold up in court
[2016-08-11 09:36:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yup
[2016-08-11 09:36:16] rapidtrades : ur a tool
[2016-08-11 09:36:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : You agree to the terms and conditions
[2016-08-11 09:36:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ok, so now its my fautl
[2016-08-11 09:36:38] rapidtrades : i agree to buttf*Ck ur mother how about that
[2016-08-11 09:36:45] rapidtrades : i pay $1 dollah
[2016-08-11 09:36:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Don't play if you can't take the risk
[2016-08-11 09:37:25] rapidtrades : risk being exchange taking my money to pay for the hack of bitcoins which i didn't own
[2016-08-11 09:37:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : Put you money in a federaly insured bank and enjoy the safety
[2016-08-11 09:37:29] rapidtrades : right that risk
[2016-08-11 09:38:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : So what did you have? All alts?
[2016-08-11 09:38:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : The clipped me the 35% in btc, etc, and lite
[2016-08-11 09:39:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : Look it is either that or they shut down and we out a great deal more or probably everything
[2016-08-11 09:39:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : I will carry on as though nothing happened and continue to make money and hopefully Bitfinex will make money and we also come out ahead in the long run
[2016-08-11 09:40:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : Beleive me, it is the only viable solution
[2016-08-11 09:40:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cry and lose or lick your wounds and keep playing the game
[2016-08-11 09:40:36] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: I HAD DOLLARS BUDDY
[2016-08-11 09:40:41] rapidtrades : COLD HARD CASH
[2016-08-11 09:40:43] habibi : Ugly_Old_Goat: high possibility u will recover ur haircut in medium term, just keep tokens, or rebuy them lower
[2016-08-11 09:40:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : So did I
[2016-08-11 09:40:47] rapidtrades : and 2 btc but mostly usd
[2016-08-11 09:41:10] rapidtrades : don't listen to hajibi, he's our resident jester
[2016-08-11 09:41:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : I wired $10k and it was converted to btc and sent somewhere without my doing
[2016-08-11 09:41:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : The transaction never showed in my account
[2016-08-11 09:42:25] rapidtrades : sucks to be u my friend but ain't my problem
[2016-08-11 09:42:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : I bot Btc, requested a withdraw, got approved and even a confirmation number, that is when they found the hack
[2016-08-11 09:43:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : No point in this conversation
[2016-08-11 09:43:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good luck my friend
[2016-08-11 09:44:52] rapidtrades : unless ur specific wallet was hacked, u have a case even if u held BTC
[2016-08-11 09:45:00] rapidtrades : imo
[2016-08-11 09:47:32] rapidtrades : they advertised 'segregated wllets'
[2016-08-11 09:47:37] rapidtrades : it's even in the TOS
[2016-08-11 09:56:15] ixess : anyone know the difference between cross and 1x?
[2016-08-11 09:56:39] habibi : cross - ur whole balance is taken so u can actually go under 1x
[2016-08-11 09:59:26] ixess : what's the point, why not just buy it?
[2016-08-11 10:06:55] BitMEX_Jinming : ixess: for short, you may lost more than 1x
[2016-08-11 10:08:36] BitMEX_Jinming : ixess: also, `cross` doesn't immediately lock 1x margin, so you can still open more positions.
[2016-08-11 10:10:47] Airmike : BitMEX_Jinming: Hi, I have one question. do you have any direct contact to talk about LP deals on the BitMex , please ?
[2016-08-11 10:12:02] Airmike : I have tried to ask BitMex_Willy 2 days ago , but I haven't receive any answer yet.
[2016-08-11 10:12:30] BitMEX_Jinming : Airmike: Sorry what do you mean by "LP deals"? You can always send email to support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-11 10:13:41] Airmike : Liquidity providing. deals for marketmakers.
[2016-08-11 10:14:39] BitMEX_Jinming : Airmike: Sure, can you send details to support@bitmex.com, our CEO Arthur will look into that.
[2016-08-11 10:15:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hey as long as you are the maker you get paid here
[2016-08-11 10:15:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : Commission is for takers only
[2016-08-11 10:16:06] Airmike : I would like to talk about providing liquidity on the exchange. Maybe could be interesting for you to make deal with external LP firm. increase volume and make spreads a bit smaler
[2016-08-11 10:16:23] Airmike : BitMEX_Jinming: thank you
[2016-08-11 10:17:10] BitMEX_Jinming : Airmike: yeah we would be interested.
[2016-08-11 10:18:24] Mm bot : Anyone holding ETH long since 0.013? or everyone only do short term trades here on Bitmex
[2016-08-11 10:27:16] rapidtrades : why is the expiry for the token aug 26
[2016-08-11 10:27:35] rapidtrades : seems a bit arbitrary
[2016-08-11 10:36:13] BitMEX_Jinming : rapidtrades: it's a monthly contract, expires on last Friday of the month
[2016-08-11 10:41:53] rapidtrades : cool beans
[2016-08-11 10:42:02] aethlios : 0.31 bfx, neither to buy neither to sell, excellent to accumulate your own debt....
[2016-08-11 10:42:27] rapidtrades : it's useful if u want to hedge ur shit tokens and not lose ur right to sue
[2016-08-11 10:42:51] rapidtrades : if they go bankrupt at least u get smth cos they go to 0
[2016-08-11 10:43:15] rapidtrades : if they get bought up, it could go to $1
[2016-08-11 10:43:36] rapidtrades : so it's kinda takeover coin
[2016-08-11 10:53:02] rapidtrades : bad idea to make it a quanto tho, that makes hedging very diffcult
[2016-08-11 10:56:49] xexe : can you link me to a hedging example with ext math calcs similar to https://www.bitmex.com/app/lesson4#hedging but with xbtusd everlasting swap thing instead of fut?
[2016-08-11 10:58:48] rapidtrades : no but it would be mostly the same thing cos swap is linear
[2016-08-11 10:59:56] BitMEX_Wally : If you have 1 Bitcoin to hedge then sell 595 contracts of XBTUSD at $595
[2016-08-11 11:04:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.003223
[2016-08-11 11:17:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 400 @ 0.003318
[2016-08-11 11:19:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2500 @ 0.003334
[2016-08-11 11:19:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.003332
[2016-08-11 11:20:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : What the heck is REKT about?
[2016-08-11 11:20:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Makes no sense
[2016-08-11 11:20:33] germanjew : its a bot
[2016-08-11 11:21:17] germanjew : Announcing everytime some is margin called
[2016-08-11 11:21:17] migz : REKT train, people who glost money.
[2016-08-11 11:21:47] germanjew : He is quite amusing to watch when the markets go a little crazy
[2016-08-11 11:21:53] germanjew : He/it*
[2016-08-11 11:23:20] jan : Hate liqiddation what a sick system
[2016-08-11 11:24:42] germanjew : As opposed to? How would a system work where you are trading with money you don't have without liquidations?
[2016-08-11 11:25:10] germanjew : + little or no trust*
[2016-08-11 11:25:15] germanjew : +
[2016-08-11 11:26:28] jan : liqudation + insuranse and you lost half of your investment
[2016-08-11 11:29:51] xexe : XBTUSD-BMEX feed in SC is down? can somebody confirm?
[2016-08-11 11:33:04] vbmithr : Let me see this.
[2016-08-11 11:34:26] vbmithr : Yes, there is a big issue indeed
[2016-08-11 11:35:22] vbmithr : whops :)
[2016-08-11 11:41:23] vbmithr : xexe: do you have access to DTC Service in the Sierra Chart menu?
[2016-08-11 11:43:37] xexe : vbmithr: hmm dtc service. not enabled on package. just bitcoin data all services
[2016-08-11 11:44:09] vbmithr : Ok.
[2016-08-11 11:44:21] vbmithr : I'm gonna investigate more why SC stopped getting data from my server.
[2016-08-11 11:44:31] vbmithr : Likely to be fixed soon, thanks for the report!
[2016-08-11 11:45:04] vbmithr : xexe: Would you use Sierra Chart for trading (when/if it's officially supported by BitMEX)?
[2016-08-11 11:46:48] xexe : ok. i dunno. maybe. currently i use SC for charting only.
[2016-08-11 11:51:33] vbmithr : Ok
[2016-08-11 12:24:02] messiaen8844 : ETHC, BFX, BitMEX becoming the altcoin-derivate leader... I like it ;D
[2016-08-11 12:24:19] messiaen8844 : trade shitcoins without needing exposure
[2016-08-11 13:10:05] HackedOnBFX : BFX barely movin'
[2016-08-11 13:10:25] donchard : 2 confirmation nothing in my account
[2016-08-11 13:11:34] donchard : okay finally arrived
[2016-08-11 13:14:25] ett1 : lol has anyone heard phil potter whining about arthurs article
[2016-08-11 13:14:26] ett1 : https://soundcloud.com/elux-1/
[2016-08-11 13:14:35] ett1 : 17:00 part 1. what a loser
[2016-08-11 13:15:49] BitMEX_Sam : Been listening to that right now
[2016-08-11 13:16:48] ett1 : he goes on about it too much
[2016-08-11 13:19:10] ett1 : hahaha in at 23:00 and hes still crying
[2016-08-11 13:19:15] ett1 : like a little bitch
[2016-08-11 13:19:54] sleger : zane on reddit "Arthur also couldn't do the simple reasoning to figure out that USD used in a margin position, isn't actually USD anymore, and added the amount of USD used in a margin position onto the amount of bitcoin to arrive at total assets held"
[2016-08-11 13:20:13] ett1 : WTF
[2016-08-11 13:20:32] ett1 : they were running fractional in USD im sure
[2016-08-11 13:20:49] ett1 : thats why they couldnt just replace BTC with BFX
[2016-08-11 13:20:58] ett1 : thats assuming they were even hacked for real
[2016-08-11 13:24:23] BitMEX_Sam : We were calculating total assets held, not sure what whether or not USD is lent has anything to do with it
[2016-08-11 13:24:30] wilhelm : Hey Bitmex admin, seems like the mobile login page is not mobile responsive.
[2016-08-11 13:24:49] BitMEX_Sam : The point was to estimate how much USD they had deposited, margin loans are one of the only way b/c there's no public record of bank transactions
[2016-08-11 13:24:53] BitMEX_Sam : wilhelm: Which browser?
[2016-08-11 13:25:01] zanza : zane is 23 and just a Finex lackey
[2016-08-11 13:25:02] BitMEX_Sam : I've seen issues with older mobile chrome, it clears up if you update the browser
[2016-08-11 13:27:27] wilhelm : Android browser with the latest os
[2016-08-11 13:27:48] wilhelm : But no worries, still able to log in albeit funny layout haha
[2016-08-11 13:28:55] BitMEX_Sam : wilhelm: So Android 6, standard browser is Chrome I believe
[2016-08-11 13:29:09] BitMEX_Sam : Could you pull a version number if possible? I've been trying to trace this one down but haven't been able to reproduce it
[2016-08-11 13:35:22] lockhedge : PGP: "My feelings are hurt", he is so hurt that is not able to post financial statements to challenge Arthur's calculations....
[2016-08-11 13:37:35] BitMEX_Sam : I find it hugely irresponsible that they would go ahead with the haircut & start trading (& charging fees) before justifying this number
[2016-08-11 13:43:11] ett1 : +1
[2016-08-11 13:50:37] 4lph4 : bitmex is so awesome, cannot understand what I was doing over at bitfinex
[2016-08-11 13:55:51] rapidtrades : how many BTC has been withdrawn from bitfinex
[2016-08-11 14:02:29] Rado : rapidtrades: judging by the BTC volume they still have a bunch
[2016-08-11 14:03:18] Rado : 33k volume in the last 24h
[2016-08-11 14:03:52] Rado : or I don't know what I am talking about
[2016-08-11 14:05:02] lockhedge : based on their cold storage wallets, it seems at least 58k btc (soon 68k) have been withdrawn https://blockchain.info/en/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g
[2016-08-11 14:06:27] 4lph4 : who believes that so many withdrawals will trigger a further short term dump on their BFX tokens?
[2016-08-11 14:07:01] messiaen8844 : willhelm, had similar issues, updated Chrome on my android mobile and now it's well
[2016-08-11 14:09:03] TA : whats your take on btc guys?
[2016-08-11 14:09:17] messiaen8844 : BTC is messy
[2016-08-11 14:09:34] TA : you think it might fall?
[2016-08-11 14:10:16] messiaen8844 : well, 470-500 zone is major major support
[2016-08-11 14:10:37] TA : and?
[2016-08-11 14:10:59] TA : you think it might fall to those levels again and then pump?
[2016-08-11 14:11:11] messiaen8844 : either that, or just retest $650-680 range
[2016-08-11 14:12:20] 4lph4 : TA it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, noone knows for sure, what only matters is what YOU think :)
[2016-08-11 14:12:33] TA : yup :)
[2016-08-11 14:12:41] TA : but just taking others views
[2016-08-11 14:12:44] 4lph4 : I am mostly writing that to remind myself :)
[2016-08-11 14:12:51] TA : thanks guys
[2016-08-11 14:13:20] messiaen8844 : problem is that china can't pump with BFX in its current state
[2016-08-11 14:13:28] messiaen8844 : and there's no one to replace it for now
[2016-08-11 14:15:20] 4lph4 : and US customers are not able to trade them too.. /
[2016-08-11 14:15:27] 4lph4 : you are right
[2016-08-11 14:15:46] messiaen8844 : long term, I would love this ;D
[2016-08-11 14:15:47] messiaen8844 : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/t7N8i5BV-Bitcoin-long-term-symmetry/
[2016-08-11 14:16:10] messiaen8844 : stamp actually hit my 470 mark lol
[2016-08-11 14:17:06] 4lph4 : looks lovely, can't deny it
[2016-08-11 14:18:18] 4lph4 : so based on that, september is not gonna be nice
[2016-08-11 14:18:33] 4lph4 : end of aug - start of sept
[2016-08-11 14:20:15] 4lph4 : don't want to see it at 480 to be honest
[2016-08-11 14:24:06] messiaen8844 : no, 470 was already hit :D
[2016-08-11 14:24:37] 4lph4 : you think? :P
[2016-08-11 14:24:45] 4lph4 : hehe
[2016-08-11 14:25:37] 4lph4 : a bit prematurely
[2016-08-11 14:25:48] 4lph4 : let's hope symmetry is not ruineddd
[2016-08-11 14:25:53] messiaen8844 : I would love some slow grind up, weeks of sideyways on 630-680 and than that lovely 4 digit retest
[2016-08-11 14:26:45] 4lph4 : actually checking the chart with detail, it's not prematurely at all...
[2016-08-11 14:26:50] 4lph4 : it confirms...
[2016-08-11 14:35:30] ett1 : If i have, say 1btc here and i short 576 XBT so i'm hedged, will i actually earn interest (better than holding USD deposits elsewhere)?
[2016-08-11 14:38:24] zanza : Finex buyside is empty
[2016-08-11 14:38:51] zanza : can you say that again ett1
[2016-08-11 14:39:28] ett1 : Bitfinex had BTC and USD wallets, but bitmex only has BTC
[2016-08-11 14:39:43] ett1 : If i have 1BTC and I wanted to be flat
[2016-08-11 14:40:01] ett1 : I could short 596 XBT contracts (or whatever the market price is)
[2016-08-11 14:40:05] ett1 : and id be hedged
[2016-08-11 14:40:17] lockhedge : ett1: if you have 1 BTC and short at 1x leverage (596 contracts) you can earn the USD interest
[2016-08-11 14:40:18] BitMEX_Wally : ett1: 596 XBTUSD contracts, correct you would be hedged
[2016-08-11 14:40:20] ett1 : Thats like holding USD deposits on bitmex
[2016-08-11 14:40:37] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, effectively you are holding synthetic USD and earning the funding rate
[2016-08-11 14:41:01] ett1 : Would my BTC balance actually rise slightly, so thats better than having USD on OKcoin say
[2016-08-11 14:41:34] ett1 : BitMEX_Wally: hold can i calculate what it would be monthly/annually for example
[2016-08-11 14:41:41] ett1 : if i understand, its a floating rate
[2016-08-11 14:41:46] ett1 : but how could i estimate
[2016-08-11 14:42:26] lockhedge : ett1: there are two main risks: DPE and interest rates could be negative for a long time during a down trend
[2016-08-11 14:43:02] sleger : historically funding on xbt swap is around 100% pa, meaning people who are long the swap at 600, in one year if xbt is worth 1200, they would have won 0 money ...
[2016-08-11 14:44:37] ett1 : if i understand correctly, it a good strategy to short 1x whevever i want to be flat (for a few weeks)
[2016-08-11 14:47:38] sleger : if nothing changes yes
[2016-08-11 14:47:53] sleger : and if you understand the risks lockhedge mentions
[2016-08-11 14:48:32] ett1 : undertand the interest rates concept, but need to understand DPE more
[2016-08-11 14:48:33] ett1 : thanks guys
[2016-08-11 14:50:24] ett1 : has bitmex considered intoducing options on XBT at all?
[2016-08-11 14:52:21] ett1 : sleger: are there charts / historical data for the rates
[2016-08-11 14:54:28] justinlooking : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI8H
[2016-08-11 14:54:44] BitMEX_Sam : ett1: Yes, we have considered it, but it will still be some time before futures markets are liquid enough to support it
[2016-08-11 14:54:52] justinlooking : click contract specifications, and look for "Funding Preimum sybol"
[2016-08-11 15:07:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 4 @ 0.01990 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-11 15:20:04] macios15 : knife
[2016-08-11 15:21:01] Roevenger : did bitfinex panic start?
[2016-08-11 15:21:56] 4lph4 : panic = $5 move
[2016-08-11 15:21:59] 4lph4 : right..
[2016-08-11 15:22:16] Roevenger : maybe antecipated okcoin contract setlement
[2016-08-11 15:35:54] rapidtrades : guys if u want to check out Phil's new audio on reddit
[2016-08-11 15:35:57] rapidtrades : it's a riot
[2016-08-11 15:36:05] rapidtrades : bitfinex CSO
[2016-08-11 15:36:32] rapidtrades : honorable bitmex mention at 17:00
[2016-08-11 15:36:51] rapidtrades : he just called bitmex unprofessional LOL
[2016-08-11 15:36:59] rapidtrades : after losing 70 MILLION
[2016-08-11 15:38:34] j8 : yeah i'm listening to it now
[2016-08-11 15:38:41] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4x7jsi/bitfinex_cso_phil_potter_gets_drunk_on_teamspeak/
[2016-08-11 15:38:44] 4lph4 : lol
[2016-08-11 15:38:55] rapidtrades : they're also downvoting everything on reddit
[2016-08-11 15:39:18] rapidtrades : explains why all my posts are near 0 on r/bitfinexcal
[2016-08-11 15:39:36] zanza : sos Bitfinex CSO likes to get drunk
[2016-08-11 15:39:43] zanza : anyone see a problem with that ?
[2016-08-11 15:39:51] j8 : his feelings are hurt
[2016-08-11 15:39:57] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitfinexcal
[2016-08-11 15:40:02] rapidtrades : ^our sub
[2016-08-11 15:40:38] zanza : only like 5 total posts there
[2016-08-11 15:40:47] ett1 : BitMEX_Sam: https://soundcloud.com/elux-1/
[2016-08-11 15:40:51] zanza : 4 total comments for the whole sub
[2016-08-11 15:41:02] rapidtrades : zanza: so?
[2016-08-11 15:41:10] ett1 : part 2 29:00 mentioned again so u dont havt to listen to the whole things
[2016-08-11 15:41:30] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, listened to all of it
[2016-08-11 15:41:42] 4lph4 : can you put a stop on a position after it's open?
[2016-08-11 15:41:49] ett1 : lol he cant emntion who is the guy to speak to involving legal stuff
[2016-08-11 15:41:52] 4lph4 : I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere
[2016-08-11 15:42:02] ett1 : or who has control of coins etc
[2016-08-11 15:42:18] zanza : rapidtrades: so you gunna afford a team of lawyers to make international lawsuit with 4 comments?
[2016-08-11 15:42:27] BitMEX_Sam : 4lph4: Stops are not necessarily per-position, just place a `Stop Limit` order for the opposite size
[2016-08-11 15:42:36] rapidtrades : wtf is ur problem man @zanza
[2016-08-11 15:42:43] ett1 : always just 'someone else on the team'
[2016-08-11 15:42:52] 4lph4 : BitMEX_Sam: ok understood thanks sam
[2016-08-11 15:44:15] rapidtrades : lol Phil so butthurt...talking about bitmex for 10 mins now
[2016-08-11 15:44:39] rapidtrades : guys we just lost 70mil of ur money but LET ME TALK ABOUT MY FEEL FEELS FOR 10 MINS
[2016-08-11 15:44:52] Roevenger : that's the pattern man, when people fail they try to make the competition look bad
[2016-08-11 15:44:58] ett1 : has anyone from bitfinex ever placed foot in hong hong
[2016-08-11 15:45:04] zanza : seriously Arthur wasn't even that harsh on him
[2016-08-11 15:45:18] ett1 : numbers dont lie
[2016-08-11 15:45:20] rapidtrades : he's obviously bit drunk now at 20 mins...wonder how bad is it gonna get
[2016-08-11 15:45:39] ett1 : zanes been smoking dope and phils been drinking
[2016-08-11 15:46:01] rapidtrades : ugh....this guy just sounds like smone i wouldn't trust $5 with
[2016-08-11 15:46:05] zanza : zane is just a lackey
[2016-08-11 15:46:23] ett1 : +1 @rapidtrades
[2016-08-11 15:46:27] zanza : not a big deal if he is smoking dope or drunk
[2016-08-11 15:46:56] ett1 : it is when you need to be thinking straight about legal concequences
[2016-08-11 15:46:56] rapidtrades : drinking before talking to a bunch of ppl at this point shows his character
[2016-08-11 15:47:03] ett1 : any other time sure
[2016-08-11 15:47:07] Roevenger : now imagine David Seaman drunk LOL
[2016-08-11 15:48:05] ett1 : drunk seaman?
[2016-08-11 15:49:03] rapidtrades : who is he talking to here? some whales?
[2016-08-11 15:49:03] lockhedge : PGP: "I wish we could be more transparent" https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4x8mx1/bitfinex_cso_phil_potter_i_wish_we_could_be_more/
[2016-08-11 15:49:19] ett1 : some degenerate gamblers
[2016-08-11 15:49:59] rapidtrades : jesus...we don't even know the total amount of those things?
[2016-08-11 15:50:01] rapidtrades : f*ck
[2016-08-11 15:50:29] Roevenger : they were only hoping that BFX would save their faces
[2016-08-11 15:50:48] rapidtrades : they didn't give a case number lol
[2016-08-11 15:51:01] rapidtrades : filing this shit to the HK police
[2016-08-11 15:52:00] rapidtrades : "we have reserves for contingent liabilities. so, you know... in case we get sued, and this, and that, but substantial amount of money. So if that stuff doesn't happen, if we're able to payback people, there is actually money there [..] to pay back [..] at least 10% of it is redeemable at the end of the day, should we not need money for a wind down"
[2016-08-11 15:52:24] rapidtrades : look at this shit ^^^ so our losses could've been much smaller if they contributed
[2016-08-11 15:52:40] rapidtrades : to all those aholes saying we can't get anything to gain from nakruptsy
[2016-08-11 15:52:46] rapidtrades : that's what we get
[2016-08-11 15:55:55] rapidtrades : they knew they were gonna get sued that's why they've restarted
[2016-08-11 15:56:14] rapidtrades : so they can milk more $$$ to pay off ppl or fight lawsuits
[2016-08-11 15:56:34] rapidtrades : it's just a ponzi scheme at this point
[2016-08-11 15:56:40] ett1 : exactly. they wont prove depsoits (it should be on the blockchain). 70m could be 10% of all deposits
[2016-08-11 15:56:59] ett1 : rapidtrades: report to BVI FSC, theyll send you a form
[2016-08-11 15:57:06] ett1 : in 24hrs
[2016-08-11 15:57:46] ett1 : rapidtrades: BFX coin is simply a ponzi scheme, and whos to know if they havnt stollen 100s of millions of customer deposits at the saem time
[2016-08-11 15:58:40] 4lph4 : ponzi scheme is not defined by what BFX is
[2016-08-11 15:58:48] 4lph4 : let's not make up things
[2016-08-11 15:59:02] ett1 : lol 48:00 "ypur talking to the guy that just had $70m bitcoins stolen from him"
[2016-08-11 15:59:12] ett1 : as if it was his money @rapidtrades
[2016-08-11 15:59:22] rullwull : i recovered almost all my losses thru bfx token trading yesterday
[2016-08-11 16:00:07] Rado : rullwull: wow, very nice
[2016-08-11 16:00:10] ett1 : yes, in a ponzi shceme, a minority do get out with profits @rullwull
[2016-08-11 16:00:17] Rado : I was too greedy and my sell order never executed
[2016-08-11 16:00:36] Rado : rullwull: did you sell over 0.0006 and then buy lower?
[2016-08-11 16:00:50] Rado : rinse and repeat