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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-08-10 19:04:29] Rado : how much is it here? [2016-08-10 19:04:45] j8 : nah it's BFXUSD here, but quanto'd into btc [2016-08-10 19:04:54] Rado : ahh [2016-08-10 19:04:56] Rado : get it now [2016-08-10 19:05:03] rapidtrades : greeeaaat [2016-08-10 19:05:04] Rado : thanks j8` [2016-08-10 19:05:11] Rado : shut up rapidtrades [2016-08-10 19:05:14] j8 : np [2016-08-10 19:05:14] rapidtrades : a quanto on finex shitcoin [2016-08-10 19:05:41] BitMEX_Greg : So the price reflects what its trading at on Bitfinex, just that its quanto'd into XBT here [2016-08-10 19:05:53] rapidtrades : coool [2016-08-10 19:06:08] rapidtrades : just what we needed [2016-08-10 19:06:09] j8 : well it's different from the btc quanto series, you would need to know the correlation between BFXUSD and XBTUSD to really price that part [2016-08-10 19:07:32] j8 : same idea for A50 and XBJ [2016-08-10 19:07:44] Rado : rapidtrades: I am getting worried that we are not getting our BTC [2016-08-10 19:08:09] sleger : If you live in a xbt world it makes things easier [2016-08-10 19:08:12] rapidtrades : im worried that this wa a ploy to get us to sell our USD [2016-08-10 19:08:30] rapidtrades : it's now much harder to litigate if they go under [2016-08-10 19:09:11] ett1 : they ran fractional reserves on USD i recon, and had to cover it up [2016-08-10 19:09:26] rapidtrades : yeah i worry that may have been happening [2016-08-10 19:09:49] ett1 : im honestly surprised they didnt disappear with everything [2016-08-10 19:09:54] rapidtrades : any bankruptsy would've exposed the hole [2016-08-10 19:10:24] rapidtrades : sleger: got anything out or taking the fiat route [2016-08-10 19:10:24] ett1 : anybody received withdrawl conformation from bitfinex? [2016-08-10 19:10:39] rapidtrades : only sam and few unknonws on reddit [2016-08-10 19:10:45] rapidtrades : 95% say processing [2016-08-10 19:11:09] rapidtrades : there's also tons of shilling right now ppl upvoting that scammer voorhees [2016-08-10 19:11:26] rapidtrades : 'i think voorhoes is right and this is the best u can do' [2016-08-10 19:11:27] Rado : rapidtrades: I opened a support ticket, but no email or answer from them [2016-08-10 19:11:29] ett1 : ye. zane just ignores what they want [2016-08-10 19:11:34] rapidtrades : trying to build confidence [2016-08-10 19:12:01] ett1 : i sold everything to BTC at market and withdrew as fast as i could [2016-08-10 19:12:34] j8 : they used a low fee on their cold to hot transaction.. shame [2016-08-10 19:12:36] ett1 : fun to spectate though [2016-08-10 19:12:52] ett1 : kinna worth it for the drama entertainment [2016-08-10 19:13:33] Rado : Bitcoin: Processed within 1 minute, subject to spending limits of the account. Processed within 12 hours maximum. [2016-08-10 19:13:50] rapidtrades : did u finally get it? [2016-08-10 19:14:17] Rado : no [2016-08-10 19:14:30] Rado : I did withdraw 16 BTC in march from them [2016-08-10 19:14:30] rapidtrades : u got the email do [2016-08-10 19:14:37] rapidtrades : wait what [2016-08-10 19:14:38] Rado : I got the email and confirmed [2016-08-10 19:14:40] ett1 : "Processed within 1 minute, ..." misleading, but i cant believe anything they say now [2016-08-10 19:14:50] Rado : but I did not get an email for my support ticket that I opened [2016-08-10 19:14:55] rapidtrades : Rado: great whats ur timestamp [2016-08-10 19:15:14] Rado : Created 10-08-16 09:10:20 [2016-08-10 19:15:23] Rado : rapidtrades: I did not get anything [2016-08-10 19:15:27] Rado : still say processing [2016-08-10 19:15:31] rapidtrades : wtf [2016-08-10 19:15:39] rapidtrades : THEN WHY DID U SAY U GOT THE EMAIL [2016-08-10 19:15:44] ett1 : mines 17:08 nothing [2016-08-10 19:15:47] Rado : read my messages [2016-08-10 19:15:53] rapidtrades : don't wanna [2016-08-10 19:15:58] Rado : ok [2016-08-10 19:16:43] Rado : looks like my timestamp is in my timezone [2016-08-10 19:16:54] ett1 : mine wasnt [2016-08-10 19:17:23] Rado : ett1: what is 17:08? [2016-08-10 19:17:26] rapidtrades : mine is in my timezone too [2016-08-10 19:17:56] ett1 : timestamp for approved withdrawl in my email [2016-08-10 19:19:08] rapidtrades : what does 'approved' withdrawal mean [2016-08-10 19:19:11] Rado : ett1: then you are in Europe somewhere [2016-08-10 19:19:25] Rado : rapidtrades: Bitfinex approved it [2016-08-10 19:19:50] Rado : then transaction needs to be processed on the blockchain [2016-08-10 19:19:54] bitbucks : @rapidtrades you click confirmation email sent to you after initiating withdraw [2016-08-10 19:19:55] Rado : but they are not sending it there [2016-08-10 19:20:17] rapidtrades : did anyone get their money...as in their wallet said u got XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [2016-08-10 19:20:19] aethlios : rapidtrades: means coins closer to freedom [2016-08-10 19:20:21] ett1 : im in asia now actually, but from UK & probably what my account settings are [2016-08-10 19:20:34] ett1 : anye=way, it was over 1 hour ago [2016-08-10 19:20:38] ett1 : just after they opened [2016-08-10 19:20:46] rapidtrades : ^^^ ban him he can't type [2016-08-10 19:21:04] rapidtrades : they opened 3 hrs ago dude [2016-08-10 19:21:09] Rado : no one did [2016-08-10 19:21:32] rapidtrades : ^^^^ ban Rado too, not his best day here [2016-08-10 19:21:32] ett1 : rapidtrades: nope [2016-08-10 19:22:24] rapidtrades : WHAT DO U MEAN NOPE THEY OPENED AT 16 UTC [2016-08-10 19:22:28] Rado : Only if you sell your BFX your withdrawal gets processed [2016-08-10 19:22:35] Rado : lol [2016-08-10 19:22:40] rapidtrades : i was afraid of that [2016-08-10 19:22:47] BitMEX_Sam : That's not true [2016-08-10 19:22:52] BitMEX_Sam : I think it's a factor of withdrawal size & time [2016-08-10 19:22:58] rapidtrades : Sam plz [2016-08-10 19:22:59] BitMEX_Sam : it appears they're rearranging their wallets and not applying enough fee [2016-08-10 19:23:10] BitMEX_Sam : In combination with the current spam attack they may not have any confirmed funds [2016-08-10 19:23:24] rapidtrades : what 'spam attack' [2016-08-10 19:23:37] BitMEX_Sam : mempools filling up again from spam txs [2016-08-10 19:23:47] rapidtrades : there's always smth shitty going on in this space man [2016-08-10 19:23:54] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: are you saying if I cancel my withdrawal and created 10 with 1 BTC each they will process [2016-08-10 19:23:55] rapidtrades : u gotta sleep with one eye open [2016-08-10 19:24:05] rapidtrades : Rado: try it, for us [2016-08-10 19:24:11] ett1 : i sleep great, just dont day trade [2016-08-10 19:24:19] ett1 : i miss all sorts of shit [2016-08-10 19:24:21] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I'm saying that could be true, but not that it is [2016-08-10 19:24:30] rapidtrades : sacrifice and lose ur spot for us Rado [2016-08-10 19:24:36] Rado : I don't want to try it [2016-08-10 19:24:37] Rado : :( [2016-08-10 19:24:43] rapidtrades : u could win big...or lose little [2016-08-10 19:24:51] rapidtrades : r/r decent [2016-08-10 19:25:01] Rado : If my BFX order gets filled I will send 3 more BTC [2016-08-10 19:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.002884 [2016-08-10 19:26:37] ett1 : BitMEX_Sam: you'd see when transactions start coming thru, right. surely quite a few people will be withdrawing to their bitmex wallets for convenience? [2016-08-10 19:27:04] BitMEX_Sam : ett1: Sure [2016-08-10 19:27:24] rapidtrades : so are they [2016-08-10 19:28:09] ett1 : im not impatient or anything, just cant believe they are going to send anything yet because of how sketchy theyve been [2016-08-10 19:28:24] aethlios : everything will be fine, provided nobody panics... and finex coin soon above 1 usd, don't worry blockchain goddess will help us. [2016-08-10 19:29:13] ett1 : i cant wrap my head around BFX coin. Its like when yobit launched LISK early [2016-08-10 19:29:45] rapidtrades : i want to dieeeeeeeeeeee [2016-08-10 19:31:02] ett1 : im surprised no huge premium on Bitfinex [2016-08-10 19:31:03] rapidtrades : this could take days to process [2016-08-10 19:31:07] rapidtrades : at this speed [2016-08-10 19:31:16] aethlios : I am selling at 0.5. As they say in my village: better 5 in hand than 10 and waiting [2016-08-10 19:32:22] rapidtrades : it's not even at 0.5 [2016-08-10 19:35:49] rapidtrades : i want my monieee [2016-08-10 19:36:04] rapidtrades : man i hate this helpless feeling [2016-08-10 19:37:20] ett1 : i like karpeles. he really did something for bitcoin and it was an innovation when he pulled his stolem coins scheme. but these bitfinex guys are lame [2016-08-10 19:38:10] aethlios : maybe we wont see again such a large hacking. in 2 year next one much smaller. [2016-08-10 19:38:40] lockhedge : slow withdrawals are an interesting way of getting rid of the premium [2016-08-10 19:38:51] ett1 : if they get away with it, others will start falling like dominos i think [2016-08-10 19:39:21] aethlios : stupid bitgo cooperation. keep it simple, cold and manual. [2016-08-10 19:39:21] ett1 : inside jobs go unpunished [2016-08-10 19:43:01] muieLaRapid : yes, karpeles was a true innovator in the way he stole [2016-08-10 19:43:12] muieLaRapid : he is the true 21st centurey entrepreneur [2016-08-10 19:43:50] muieLaRapid : him and erdogan [2016-08-10 19:44:50] muieLaRapid : who are your idols? [2016-08-10 19:45:16] ett1 : nobody springs to mind. let me think [2016-08-10 19:45:32] ett1 : mark isnt an idol, but he certainly gets my respect [2016-08-10 19:46:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.002836 [2016-08-10 19:46:07] ett1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob9Ak1t09Ao&t=2m36s [2016-08-10 19:46:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.002779 [2016-08-10 19:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2024 @ 0.002729 [2016-08-10 19:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1500 @ 0.002731 [2016-08-10 19:50:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 125 @ 0.02051 [2016-08-10 19:58:43] muieLaRapid : yeah those were the wild riot days [2016-08-10 20:00:36] muieLaRapid : what a joke [2016-08-10 20:04:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 60 @ 0.02042 [2016-08-10 20:05:15] rapidtrades : how do we know they're actually sending out coins instead of using our BTC to buy the tokens [2016-08-10 20:05:45] Tetsuo : zane says so [2016-08-10 20:06:10] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCR3722ACTI [2016-08-10 20:07:16] Rado : rapidtrades: they will only buy the tokens if they know they can get $1 for them quickly [2016-08-10 20:07:24] Rado : how are they going to do that? [2016-08-10 20:07:32] Rado : if they got an investment maybe [2016-08-10 20:07:42] Rado : and return the money to the users [2016-08-10 20:07:46] Rado : I don't know [2016-08-10 20:07:50] Rado : it doesn't make sense [2016-08-10 20:08:06] Rado : the only thing is someone said they want to control the flow of BTC to other exchanges [2016-08-10 20:08:23] Rado : but no one seems to be getting anything [2016-08-10 20:08:30] Rado : so that theory is not right either [2016-08-10 20:08:57] rapidtrades : noone is getting anything [2016-08-10 20:09:23] rapidtrades : we're buttfinessed once more [2016-08-10 20:09:38] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1B3brMeSjxy8K7W3tTWfdLTbNruVc24Fe6 first chunk of withdraws [2016-08-10 20:09:39] habibi : u asshole [2016-08-10 20:09:48] rapidtrades : habibi: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [2016-08-10 20:09:52] rapidtrades : u polsih jew [2016-08-10 20:10:23] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g sorry here * [2016-08-10 20:10:33] rapidtrades : 13 transactions with 4,000 coins [2016-08-10 20:10:46] rapidtrades : great so theyre paying off whales or trading with our coins [2016-08-10 20:10:55] rapidtrades : tnx for proving my point u tool [2016-08-10 20:11:02] Rado : rapidtrades: my status changed back to Approved [2016-08-10 20:11:06] Rado : what does your say? [2016-08-10 20:11:24] rapidtrades : processing but i got in bit later then u [2016-08-10 20:11:37] rapidtrades : Rado: got the email? [2016-08-10 20:11:47] Rado : I thought Approved was before processing [2016-08-10 20:11:49] habibi : rapidtrades: https://blockchain.info/pl/address/3E6KGjmwid1SUYJTdj98uV9TKt8JKxGaHF look at that whale, 1.49 btc wow much whale [2016-08-10 20:12:03] rapidtrades : habibi: screeeeeeeeeeeew u [2016-08-10 20:12:19] rapidtrades : Rado: yeah that's not good..wtf [2016-08-10 20:12:35] rapidtrades : smone reported on reddit theirs got cancelled [2016-08-10 20:12:50] Rado : rapidtrades: here is a reply to my support ticket [2016-08-10 20:12:52] Rado : Withdrawals will take some time to process. We kindly ask for your patience and understanding. Thank you. Kind regards, Ninel Bitfinex Support Team [2016-08-10 20:13:10] rapidtrades : yeah ok [2016-08-10 20:14:27] Rado : saying Processing again [2016-08-10 20:14:28] Rado : pfew [2016-08-10 20:14:30] Rado : fuckers [2016-08-10 20:14:37] j8 : Ninel, that's Lenin backwards [2016-08-10 20:14:41] rapidtrades : lol [2016-08-10 20:14:43] Rado : lol [2016-08-10 20:15:00] Rado : I got it rapidtrades [2016-08-10 20:15:01] j8 : don't trust em [2016-08-10 20:15:09] rapidtrades : noone trusts them [2016-08-10 20:15:16] rapidtrades : that's why they're doing it this slow [2016-08-10 20:15:20] Rado : Withdrawal #1281697 has been approved - Aug 10 01:12 PM [2016-08-10 20:15:34] rapidtrades : guys plz trade and cancel ur withdrawalesses [2016-08-10 20:15:47] Rado : Why did I get this email now? [2016-08-10 20:15:53] Rado : it was approved long time ago [2016-08-10 20:16:00] rapidtrades : man that sucks [2016-08-10 20:16:15] rapidtrades : no wait i didn't get that [2016-08-10 20:16:25] rapidtrades : Rado: ur get ur coins soon i think [2016-08-10 20:16:37] rapidtrades : cos mine is processing and never got aprroved [2016-08-10 20:16:40] rapidtrades : the email [2016-08-10 20:16:59] habibi : wow rapidtrade actually read sth property :D thats some nice progress [2016-08-10 20:17:19] Rado : lets hope [2016-08-10 20:17:24] Rado : will report as soon as I get them [2016-08-10 20:17:47] rapidtrades : habibi: its a same ur grandparents escaped the holocaust [2016-08-10 20:18:07] habibi : u are really miserable person saying things like that :) [2016-08-10 20:18:29] rapidtrades : NO U [2016-08-10 20:18:45] Rado : cmon guys [2016-08-10 20:19:20] CryptoGoon : g unit [2016-08-10 20:19:51] rapidtrades : ok so Rado was one of the first and we just got his approved thing [2016-08-10 20:19:59] rapidtrades : man this will take ages [2016-08-10 20:20:32] rapidtrades : how f*cking slow do u have to click to manually approve [2016-08-10 20:20:50] rapidtrades : more security theather afte that pasa/2fa change few days ago [2016-08-10 20:21:08] CryptoGoon : whats the minimum deposit I hear exchanges are getting hacked these days [2016-08-10 20:21:12] CryptoGoon : :D [2016-08-10 20:21:19] rapidtrades : Rado: does it still say processing [2016-08-10 20:21:33] Rado : yes [2016-08-10 20:21:49] rapidtrades : Rado: and the emil says what approximately [2016-08-10 20:22:03] rapidtrades : is it like the email of old...when finex wasn't bankrupt [2016-08-10 20:22:51] Rado : Withdrawal Approved Your withdrawal #1281697 of 10.51313227 BTC via BITCOIN Approved Withdrawal processing time: ...... [2016-08-10 20:23:26] rapidtrades : cool ur in [2016-08-10 20:23:31] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g Just watch this adress, when incomign coins got comfirmation, expect another chunk of withdraws to people soon after. [2016-08-10 20:23:43] rapidtrades : now if only they can get the sending fees rght [2016-08-10 20:24:24] rapidtrades : why are they sending 1,000s and 100s of BTC while we can't get our measly <50 btc [2016-08-10 20:24:24] Rado : rapidtrades: it's exactly the same as before [2016-08-10 20:24:31] Rado : next email should say sent [2016-08-10 20:24:44] rapidtrades : i never got aprroved email [2016-08-10 20:24:44] Tetsuo : i am glad that the FBI , which they claimed is investigating in the theft, approved all of this [2016-08-10 20:24:53] rapidtrades : FBI is cool with this [2016-08-10 20:25:01] Tetsuo : k [2016-08-10 20:25:14] rapidtrades : clearly 100% legal payout out some while others get shafted [2016-08-10 20:25:44] rapidtrades : this is not a ponzi like the owner of bitfinex always wanted to make [2016-08-10 20:25:49] rapidtrades : THIS IS NOT A PONZI [2016-08-10 20:26:49] rapidtrades : are they running out of BTC yet? [2016-08-10 20:27:12] rapidtrades : what happens if over 48% of BTC is asked for? [2016-08-10 20:27:25] rapidtrades : well over 52% [2016-08-10 20:27:38] rapidtrades : are they gonna buy the rest on market or just stop [2016-08-10 20:27:43] rapidtrades : lol we tried lolzie [2016-08-10 20:29:44] j8 : oh my.. 2/3 of my withdrawals have sent [2016-08-10 20:30:13] rapidtrades : sent where [2016-08-10 20:30:26] j8 : to my addresses. unconfirmed tx's [2016-08-10 20:30:34] rapidtrades : small? [2016-08-10 20:30:40] j8 : nope [2016-08-10 20:30:45] j8 : medium [2016-08-10 20:30:45] rapidtrades : sweet [2016-08-10 20:30:51] rapidtrades : mind sharing the time [2016-08-10 20:31:19] j8 : first was from 16:10 UTC [2016-08-10 20:31:29] rapidtrades : cool like rado [2016-08-10 20:32:04] j8 : third was from 19:20 UTC and i got it at the same time [2016-08-10 20:32:20] rapidtrades : well shit [2016-08-10 20:32:23] j8 : second one hasn't sent yet [2016-08-10 20:32:31] rapidtrades : so they're doing them randomly or what [2016-08-10 20:32:35] rapidtrades : WHAT JOKE IS THIS [2016-08-10 20:32:37] j8 : apparently [2016-08-10 20:32:38] rapidtrades : WHT THE HELL [2016-08-10 20:32:49] rapidtrades : how can u f*Ck this up [2016-08-10 20:32:55] rapidtrades : U HAD ONE JOB BITFINEX [2016-08-10 20:33:15] rapidtrades : they can't even return what's left of our money properly [2016-08-10 20:33:28] rapidtrades : how can u fail so consistently [2016-08-10 20:33:55] rapidtrades : there should be a medal for this type of thing [2016-08-10 20:34:10] j8 : check out this transaction https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/aab675dd18677016dabea64c03b0d052325be6e336bde46ab36b86b558efb2df [2016-08-10 20:34:23] j8 : rado's in there [2016-08-10 20:34:29] rapidtrades : :( [2016-08-10 20:34:35] rapidtrades : man why am i so slow [2016-08-10 20:34:50] Rado : rapidtrades: Completed [2016-08-10 20:34:58] rapidtrades : grats fellas [2016-08-10 20:36:23] Rado : j8: how did you know mine was in there? [2016-08-10 20:36:39] j8 : because you said the exact amount in chat [2016-08-10 20:36:49] j8 : and i was looking at it because i'm also in there [2016-08-10 20:37:07] Rado : cool [2016-08-10 20:37:41] rapidtrades : j8: how do i search [2016-08-10 20:37:59] j8 : search what? [2016-08-10 20:38:25] Rado : in the output [2016-08-10 20:38:32] Rado : you can search for your address [2016-08-10 20:38:32] rapidtrades : im not in there [2016-08-10 20:38:34] rapidtrades : sigh [2016-08-10 20:38:41] rapidtrades : sigh. [2016-08-10 20:38:59] rapidtrades : at least we're not getting in line....the small fish [2016-08-10 20:39:18] rapidtrades : they already sent 10,000s to their whale buddies or used it to buy tokens [2016-08-10 20:40:00] mexnoob : new to those contracts, if I just use 0x leverage, can I trade just like an exchange(and dont have fees for more than trades)? [2016-08-10 20:40:12] j8 : if you ever need to do fancy blockchain searches check out http://blockchainsql.io/ [2016-08-10 20:40:28] rapidtrades : nah im good tnx [2016-08-10 20:40:40] herpinator : mexnoob: yes, also welcome to the best exchange [2016-08-10 20:40:53] rapidtrades : mexnoob: yeah but there's clawback risk here [2016-08-10 20:41:33] rapidtrades : also some unique stuff with the funding...test it small first [2016-08-10 20:42:33] rapidtrades : all my friends got the coins and i got shit [2016-08-10 20:42:33] j8 : you still pay (or receive) funding fees if you're less than 1x leveraged [2016-08-10 20:43:22] mexnoob : clawback risk = that the bitmex index is wrong? [2016-08-10 20:43:41] mexnoob : what determines if i pay funding fees? [2016-08-10 20:43:43] rapidtrades : gimme a new address...they already emptied the 10k [2016-08-10 20:43:49] rapidtrades : j8: u [2016-08-10 20:43:56] lockhedge : mexnoob: DPE if there are unfilled liquidations https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation [2016-08-10 20:44:08] j8 : rapidtrades: me what [2016-08-10 20:44:29] rapidtrades : gimme new address to watch they emptied that one [2016-08-10 20:45:20] rapidtrades : 10k going like its nothing....are they down to 0 soon [2016-08-10 20:46:06] lockhedge : https://blockchain.info/address/35emx395afKAKAr72VoePVbu3FJvxLPVny [2016-08-10 20:46:13] lockhedge : https://blockchain.info/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW?filter=1 [2016-08-10 20:47:06] rapidtrades : can't search that easily [2016-08-10 20:48:47] j8 : doesn't your wallet watch your address for you? [2016-08-10 20:48:58] rapidtrades : yea? [2016-08-10 20:49:13] j8 : so then you'll know when you get it [2016-08-10 20:49:20] rapidtrades : whatever [2016-08-10 20:50:05] arbitrage001 : how things go [2016-08-10 20:50:09] rapidtrades : emotions are running high as bitfnex wallets go empty [2016-08-10 20:50:19] rapidtrades : this is NOT good news for bitcoin [2016-08-10 20:50:37] arbitrage001 : anyone else think buying bfx token at .32 is a good idea beside me? [2016-08-10 20:51:08] rapidtrades : yeah literally noone here is that stupid [2016-08-10 20:51:13] arbitrage001 : the exchange liability just went down by one third [2016-08-10 20:51:24] rapidtrades : u mean 2/3 [2016-08-10 20:51:28] wurstgelee : thats what i am thinking about too [2016-08-10 20:51:30] arbitrage001 : should price keep dropping, their liability will keep going down [2016-08-10 20:51:39] rapidtrades : it may not have went down at all [2016-08-10 20:51:56] rapidtrades : ppl can argue selling them was only way to get partial compensation [2016-08-10 20:52:02] rapidtrades : and still ask for rest 2/3 [2016-08-10 20:52:04] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yes 2/3 [2016-08-10 20:52:13] lockhedge : arbitrage001: how will bifinex make more money than they spend in the coming weeks? [2016-08-10 20:52:13] mike23aa : does anyone know when bitmex rebalance XBT with bitfinex index? [2016-08-10 20:52:23] rapidtrades : they're not a legally approved debt instrument [2016-08-10 20:52:36] arbitrage001 : lockhedge: their business model sound [2016-08-10 20:52:43] arbitrage001 : and highly profitable [2016-08-10 20:52:46] rapidtrades : they didn't even back them with anything [2016-08-10 20:52:55] rapidtrades : there's no obligation to rebuy them [2016-08-10 20:53:06] rapidtrades : they're just shiny coinz [2016-08-10 20:53:10] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: they word it in such way to reduce their liability [2016-08-10 20:53:19] Rizky : if everyone bails no future revenue to make them good either [2016-08-10 20:53:21] rapidtrades : didn't u read what i said? [2016-08-10 20:53:28] rapidtrades : that's the dumbest thing i heard [2016-08-10 20:53:31] arbitrage001 : intentionally make people to sell way below par [2016-08-10 20:53:46] rapidtrades : can i issue some paper currency to pay off my mortgage#/ [2016-08-10 20:54:17] rapidtrades : i'll just write some 100000101010 on a piece of paper and give it to the bank [2016-08-10 20:54:19] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: if you have good business model, high profit bussniess and good trust [2016-08-10 20:54:47] rapidtrades : here u go Mr. Banker...im not saying this is a IOU...im not saying i will ever rebuy this from u [2016-08-10 20:54:53] rapidtrades : just have it...for keeps [2016-08-10 20:54:57] lockhedge : arbitrage001: they have rising overheads (litigation costs, security consulting fees...) and very likely much less revenue [2016-08-10 20:55:03] rapidtrades : as a souvenir of whow stupid u were [2016-08-10 20:55:39] arbitrage001 : lockhedge: true, but betting at 0.32 still a good bet [2016-08-10 20:55:53] rapidtrades : j8: how many coins to they have left chain inspector [2016-08-10 20:55:58] rapidtrades : this is a disaster [2016-08-10 20:56:20] j8 : i don't keep track of all their addresses. [2016-08-10 20:57:38] muieLaRapid : bifinex isn't working 4 me [2016-08-10 20:58:13] muieLaRapid : there must have been 2 many withdrawals [2016-08-10 20:59:07] Rado : j8: I have 2 BTC lost from a long time ago. From my first wallet [2016-08-10 20:59:22] Rado : I still have all the transaction IDs and the backup of my original wallet [2016-08-10 20:59:31] Rado : are you up for helping me recover them? [2016-08-10 20:59:48] j8 : so missing a passphrase? [2016-08-10 20:59:49] Rado : I will give you big chunk of them [2016-08-10 21:00:02] Rado : I have the password for the Wallet [2016-08-10 21:00:22] j8 : whats the problem then [2016-08-10 21:01:04] Rado : I send some BTC to another address [2016-08-10 21:01:15] Rado : the 2 BTC left are in another address [2016-08-10 21:01:28] Rado : the wallet was a web wallet and it's not there anymore [2016-08-10 21:01:38] Rado : so I have no idea how to get them from that new address [2016-08-10 21:01:57] habibi : which service u used? [2016-08-10 21:02:28] Rado : let me try to remember the exact name [2016-08-10 21:03:22] j8 : normally a web wallet would give you a backup when you set it up.. if you don't have that and the service has disappeared then you're probably out of luck [2016-08-10 21:03:39] Rado : I do have the original backup [2016-08-10 21:03:48] Rado : but not a backup after the first transaction [2016-08-10 21:04:12] Rado : not sure why they were creating a new address when I made a transaction for part of the coins [2016-08-10 21:04:59] Rado : 1. First transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1HHkWyw3hAniyJzuwgax8Q7g3u3ZfiBtga [2016-08-10 21:05:13] Rado : 2. Second transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1N4cNpHhw7DeYvsjkNeBihWEYrxQxSFE3d [2016-08-10 21:05:34] Rado : 3. Final destination of the bitcoins: https://blockchain.info/address/1JEX9DZMj47hUsTrC2iW3PNhL8Nf4wiLni [2016-08-10 21:05:38] aethlios : what % of their coins left already?? [2016-08-10 21:06:24] Rado : j8: the 1.995 at 1JEX9DZMj47hUsTrC2iW3PNhL8Nf4wiLni are mine [2016-08-10 21:06:30] Rado : no idea how to get them [2016-08-10 21:06:48] habibi : 82k left from 127k [2016-08-10 21:07:23] Rado : let me know, I will give you 0.995 BTC [2016-08-10 21:07:43] Rado : half of it basically [2016-08-10 21:07:54] j8 : Rado: it's probably a change address which is included in the backup that you have [2016-08-10 21:08:16] Rado : why would it be in the first backup of the wallet? [2016-08-10 21:09:04] lockhedge : habibi: plus 5k from here https://blockchain.info/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW?filter=1 [2016-08-10 21:09:40] j8 : the way to backup an old-style wallet (not HD wallets) is to include 100's of addresses for future use [2016-08-10 21:09:54] j8 : so that you don't have to back it up after every transaction [2016-08-10 21:10:11] Rado : j8: it was coinpunk [2016-08-10 21:10:16] Rado : let me open the backup [2016-08-10 21:11:46] rapidtrades : still nothing..5 hrs now [2016-08-10 21:12:03] j8 : most wallets have an option to sweep or import private keys [2016-08-10 21:12:22] Rado : j8: the backup seem to encrypted [2016-08-10 21:12:43] Rado : so it doesn't list the addresses [2016-08-10 21:12:51] Rado : there is a big salt string [2016-08-10 21:13:02] Rado : chiper is aes [2016-08-10 21:13:45] j8 : i found this https://github.com/eugeneware/coinpunk-tools [2016-08-10 21:14:30] j8 : can't guarantee it doesn't steal your coins. [2016-08-10 21:14:57] j8 : but it seems to be saying it's encrypted with your username and password [2016-08-10 21:15:47] rapidtrades : habibi: 82k left from 127k? didn't they have much more [2016-08-10 21:15:53] Rado : very nice find j8 [2016-08-10 21:15:54] rapidtrades : no wait [2016-08-10 21:16:05] Rado : I will try it and see if I can recover my private key [2016-08-10 21:16:10] rapidtrades : are u sure there;s 80k left hajibi or just BSsing like usual [2016-08-10 21:16:12] habibi : rapidtrades: they had obviously, just 119k was stolen [2016-08-10 21:16:13] Rado : will let you know [2016-08-10 21:16:21] rapidtrades : habibi: FINE [2016-08-10 21:16:33] rapidtrades : gooooooooooot it [2016-08-10 21:16:39] rapidtrades : sue time [2016-08-10 21:16:41] habibi : rapidtrades: i am impresed [2016-08-10 21:16:51] rapidtrades : my revenge will be great [2016-08-10 21:17:06] rapidtrades : first i will send a strognyl worded email [2016-08-10 21:17:14] habibi : rapidtrades: i bet their's lawyers already quiting job coz of ur sue coming :) [2016-08-10 21:17:36] rapidtrades : god bless America [2016-08-10 21:17:40] bernx : Bitmex staff are here? [2016-08-10 21:17:41] rapidtrades : it's a good day to be alive [2016-08-10 21:18:02] rapidtrades : paying that 2.5% premium was worth it [2016-08-10 21:18:07] Rado : lol rapidtrades [2016-08-10 21:18:30] cenkzu : 119700 or smth was stolen and they kept around 129k [2016-08-10 21:18:49] rapidtrades : guess im technically not in the clear yet...they could still double-spend me :) [2016-08-10 21:19:33] rapidtrades : great man i can finally grab a bite [2016-08-10 21:20:02] habibi : double spend ur brain, just to study that anomaly even more [2016-08-10 21:20:10] j8 : bitfinex doublespending would be awesome [2016-08-10 21:20:14] rapidtrades : habibi: asshole :) [2016-08-10 21:20:33] rapidtrades : not even mad cos i got 61.5% of my shit out [2016-08-10 21:20:55] rapidtrades : can i sue for that 2.5% premium? or is that considered poor form [2016-08-10 21:21:13] rapidtrades : i should sue about everything and then scale it down in negotiations [2016-08-10 21:22:01] rapidtrades : whoeever doesn't have their coins yet hope u get em soon [2016-08-10 21:22:05] rapidtrades : brb food [2016-08-10 21:23:01] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: how much you lose? is it even worth suing? [2016-08-10 21:23:50] rapidtrades : plan to organize smth [2016-08-10 21:24:45] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal [2016-08-10 21:25:19] rapidtrades : looks like some guy posted says he's CAL attorney....no idea if he's BSing [2016-08-10 21:25:35] rapidtrades : will check out what he has to say after i eat [2016-08-10 21:26:53] rapidtrades : right after i ban this todd cocksucker [2016-08-10 21:28:52] arbitrage001 : my bid @.3 got hit [2016-08-10 21:29:19] rapidtrades : cool now u own literally nothing of value of 30 cents [2016-08-10 21:29:25] rapidtrades : congratulations [2016-08-10 21:29:29] arbitrage001 : 66% reduction in debt, [2016-08-10 21:29:44] rapidtrades : it's not a legal reduction of debt u dummy [2016-08-10 21:29:44] arbitrage001 : litigation cost will be way less [2016-08-10 21:29:56] rapidtrades : dude...reading comprehension [2016-08-10 21:30:22] arbitrage001 : will see who has the last laugh [2016-08-10 21:31:23] j8 : buy it all! [2016-08-10 21:31:39] arbitrage001 : have 100k bid at 0.1 [2016-08-10 21:31:56] rapidtrades : this is sad to watch [2016-08-10 21:31:58] arbitrage001 : will sell at 0.3 should it get hit [2016-08-10 21:32:24] rapidtrades : does finex charge fees in trading in BFX coin [2016-08-10 21:32:39] arbitrage001 : not sure [2016-08-10 21:34:25] j8 : i hear it's going to 1.5 [2016-08-10 21:34:40] arbitrage001 : j8: how so [2016-08-10 21:34:55] arbitrage001 : unless they are swapping the company equity at low valuation [2016-08-10 21:34:58] rapidtrades : he heard it thru the grapewine [2016-08-10 21:35:48] j8 : polo pump'n'dump team is gonna take everyone for a ride [2016-08-10 21:36:12] arbitrage001 : polo already listed the token? [2016-08-10 21:36:33] aethlios : wait to hit polo, they will pump it. [2016-08-10 21:39:20] aethlios : arbitrage001: you can't move it yet. they have to create a blockchain first [2016-08-10 21:39:36] lockhedge : it's not even a token yet, it's just Bitfinex accounting. they wrote that they are "working on tokenizing BFX via the Omni Layer to allow withdrawals" [2016-08-10 21:42:35] rapidtrades : ask ur questions here https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4x43y8/i_ama_class_action_attorney_ask_me_anything_about/ [2016-08-10 21:42:52] rapidtrades : keep in mind could be just tetseo trollin [2016-08-10 21:44:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 50 @ 0.002980 [2016-08-10 21:44:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2000 @ 0.002986 [2016-08-10 21:49:10] Rado : rapidtrades: very good question [2016-08-10 21:49:19] Rado : let us know if he answers [2016-08-10 22:04:13] rapidtrades : fines now $3 below market [2016-08-10 22:04:28] rapidtrades : as wallets go dry, prices will continue to drop [2016-08-10 22:04:32] ett1 : why below? [2016-08-10 22:04:41] ett1 : i thought USD would be worth less on finex [2016-08-10 22:04:52] rapidtrades : ppl will want that cold hard cash, easier to sue if u have usd i think [2016-08-10 22:04:58] rapidtrades : since hack was bitcoins [2016-08-10 22:05:35] ett1 : i sold everything for BTC and got out ASAP. i thought thats what most would do [2016-08-10 22:05:46] ett1 : theyre withdrawing to bank? [2016-08-10 22:06:28] j8 : i still think there's the risk that at any time, the site could be shut down and accounts frozen [2016-08-10 22:06:46] ett1 : +1 [2016-08-10 22:07:10] rapidtrades : ett1: that's what everyone did...that's why they're slowly running out of coins [2016-08-10 22:07:25] rapidtrades : anyone keeps a tally? [2016-08-10 22:07:29] rapidtrades : how much out so far [2016-08-10 22:07:49] ett1 : whos depositing and want USD (bfx IOUs) [2016-08-10 22:08:05] ett1 : why would anyone put BTC on there to sell [2016-08-10 22:08:10] rapidtrades : i just told u [2016-08-10 22:08:28] rapidtrades : they have less BTC then their obligations [2016-08-10 22:08:45] arbitrage001 : you are making too much assumption [2016-08-10 22:08:53] rapidtrades : plz [2016-08-10 22:09:03] rapidtrades : stfu bitfinex shareholder [2016-08-10 22:09:20] arbitrage001 : you have access to bfx balance sheet? [2016-08-10 22:09:36] lockhedge : rapidtrades: they still have 87k btc [2016-08-10 22:11:24] fdsafdsafdsa : Hi I'm new. I'm looking for the fastest way to lose all of my money. Suggestions welcome. [2016-08-10 22:11:49] ett1 : 2.5x long Bitfinex Token [2016-08-10 22:12:11] fdsafdsafdsa : ett1: Mmm a most intriguing proposition [2016-08-10 22:17:00] j8 : 100x on XBJ24H will get the job done too [2016-08-10 22:18:21] fdsafdsafdsa : y? [2016-08-10 22:19:11] j8 : because a 0.5% move in the wrong direction will liquidate you [2016-08-10 22:19:46] fdsafdsafdsa : o right [2016-08-10 22:19:54] fdsafdsafdsa : new guy is new [2016-08-10 22:20:16] ett1 : a 0.5% move in the wrong direction will double his money, not help him lose faster [2016-08-10 22:20:43] j8 : i suppose so [2016-08-10 22:21:05] j8 : actually you need a 1% move in the wrong direction to double your money. [2016-08-10 22:21:14] ett1 : he needs to pick the right direction for his goals and personality [2016-08-10 22:21:32] j8 : we're probably just confusing him now [2016-08-10 22:21:45] fdsafdsafdsa : i have personality [2016-08-10 22:22:05] fdsafdsafdsa : where's the tab for 100x long on personality? [2016-08-10 22:35:24] Rado : lol [2016-08-10 22:35:27] Rado : you guys are funny [2016-08-10 22:35:39] Rado : fdsafdsafdsa: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBJ24H [2016-08-10 22:38:27] justinlooking : ETC is so smelly [2016-08-10 22:41:40] Rado : justinlooking: I am looking to buy some contracts in the 0.0025-0.0026 area [2016-08-10 22:44:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9700 @ 593.21 [2016-08-10 22:59:47] lockhedge : finex just prepared another 5000 btc for withdrawal [2016-08-10 22:59:51] lockhedge : https://blockchain.info/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g [2016-08-10 23:00:15] rapidtrades : total wd how much? [2016-08-10 23:01:10] rapidtrades : this is a strong no confidence vote [2016-08-10 23:01:24] rapidtrades : not sure they were expecting this bankrun [2016-08-10 23:02:14] jan : guys How is it possible I was liquidated ETC(buy long) at price 0.002588 while market price was 0.002731 ? [2016-08-10 23:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2851 @ 592.35 [2016-08-10 23:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12500 @ 592.24 [2016-08-10 23:05:56] lockhedge : jan: 0.002588 is probably your bankruptcy price, you lose the maintenance margin (to the insurance fund) when your position gets liquidated [2016-08-10 23:05:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 591.47 [2016-08-10 23:08:04] rapidtrades : my money arrived after 7 hours wait. I'll be selling most my crypto after this. It just ages me too fast. Quit while you're ahead, right? [2016-08-10 23:08:23] rapidtrades : ^we'll be hearing lot of this next few weeks [2016-08-10 23:10:32] jan : lockhedge: yes 0.002588 it's my bankruptcy. But why system sell at price which never exist.While it could sell it at price 0.002731 ? [2016-08-10 23:10:59] Boontjie : it goes into the insurance fund [2016-08-10 23:11:11] Boontjie : grats on contributing to the socialised loss system [2016-08-10 23:12:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 2 @ 0.02073 :punch: :whale: [2016-08-10 23:12:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 591.27 [2016-08-10 23:12:51] jan : Will I be able to get fund back fro That "insurance fund" ? [2016-08-10 23:13:17] Boontjie : No, its how it works. You get liquidated at mark price and the "premium" goes into insurance fund [2016-08-10 23:13:45] Boontjie : So you get liquidated at 0.002588, but the system sells at 0.0027 the premium is 0.0002 [2016-08-10 23:13:53] jan : so it's sick system [2016-08-10 23:14:03] Boontjie : pretty much