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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-08-10 17:30:59] zanza : someone should mail them a Trezor or Ledger Wallet [2016-08-10 17:30:59] rapidtrades : no i was caricaturing [2016-08-10 17:31:06] rapidtrades : i aint got shit [2016-08-10 17:31:28] habibi : zanza: u aware that it would take much more to do manual withdraws thru trezor? [2016-08-10 17:31:32] habibi : time* [2016-08-10 17:32:12] habibi : justinlooking: k will look for it, but if u would find it somehow please share :) [2016-08-10 17:39:14] zanza : u can sign batch transaction with Trezor [2016-08-10 17:39:37] zanza : just input pin/challenge [2016-08-10 17:40:05] Rado : zanza: if the hardware fail do you still have your coins at an address? [2016-08-10 17:40:10] Rado : how do you get them back? [2016-08-10 17:40:21] zanza : recovery word seed 24 [2016-08-10 17:41:03] habibi : zanza: thanks, wasnt aware of that option [2016-08-10 17:41:09] Rado : recovery from where? [2016-08-10 17:41:29] Rado : from another device or on the internet in some wallet? [2016-08-10 17:41:49] habibi : determistic hd wallet, u save save words whether u can do it with 12/18/24 words. on paper/in ur head/ and that is ur recovery seed [2016-08-10 17:42:13] Rado : I get that [2016-08-10 17:42:14] habibi : in another trezor for example/ electrum i guess as well [2016-08-10 17:42:18] Rado : but where are the coins? [2016-08-10 17:42:29] Rado : are they on the blokchain at some address [2016-08-10 17:42:33] zanza : basically, a paper seed in this case, you could divide into 3 and send it to different countries [2016-08-10 17:42:45] BitMEX_Wally : The `.BFX` index is live: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.BFX [2016-08-10 17:43:02] zanza : coins are always on blockchain [2016-08-10 17:43:02] BitMEX_Wally : `BFXQ16` coming soon [2016-08-10 17:43:07] zanza : WOW [2016-08-10 17:43:13] Rado : thanks BitMEX_Wally [2016-08-10 17:43:14] zanza : im ready to short it [2016-08-10 17:43:19] BitMEX_Wally : :) [2016-08-10 17:43:23] zanza : make reddit announcement wally [2016-08-10 17:43:31] Rado : twitter [2016-08-10 17:43:37] Rado : I will re twit [2016-08-10 17:46:17] Rado : already did a twit [2016-08-10 17:46:18] Rado : :-) [2016-08-10 17:47:33] Rado : too bad I didn't do smaller withdrawal from Bitfinex [2016-08-10 17:48:50] Rado : everyone is in process [2016-08-10 17:48:58] Rado : on tradeview as well [2016-08-10 17:49:31] Rado : I think Bitfinex wants to see how many withdrawals will be done before they release them [2016-08-10 17:49:36] Rado : doesn't look good [2016-08-10 17:50:02] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: are you adding bfx coin?? when?? [2016-08-10 17:50:14] BitMEX_Wally : Imminently [2016-08-10 17:50:31] BitMEX_Wally : It's in testnet if you want to play: https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/BFXQ16 [2016-08-10 17:50:41] aethlios : BitMEX_Wally: faster than a bullet. [2016-08-10 17:50:59] BitMEX_Wally : Magicians can catch bullets. You can't catch the BitMEX team [2016-08-10 17:51:25] Rado : he he [2016-08-10 17:52:15] Rado : I think people are happy to get 1/3 and are selling BFX [2016-08-10 17:52:20] Rado : not sure who is buying it [2016-08-10 17:52:34] Rado : I guess speculators [2016-08-10 17:52:49] Rado : I hope it's not Bitfinex with out BTC which is on hold processing [2016-08-10 17:53:28] Tetsuo : Finex will buy the.... with you money [2016-08-10 17:55:18] wurstgelee : yep [2016-08-10 17:55:36] wurstgelee : settling their debt they own you with your own money [2016-08-10 17:55:44] wurstgelee : brilliant [2016-08-10 17:55:45] wurstgelee : oO [2016-08-10 17:58:58] zanza : so will finex be alive in 2 weeks? [2016-08-10 17:59:08] zanza : i am really hoping i can forget their name permanently [2016-08-10 18:02:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 33 @ 0.003089 [2016-08-10 18:11:19] kingscrown : BTMEX adding BFXBTC x50 markets tradign today - https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@kingscrown/bitmex-to-add-x50-leverage-bfxbtc-token-trading-today [2016-08-10 18:12:39] habibi : yea 50x on ur ass [2016-08-10 18:13:10] Rado : if someone is worth banning [2016-08-10 18:13:13] Rado : it's this ass kingscrown [2016-08-10 18:13:19] Rado : he only posts spam [2016-08-10 18:13:26] Rado : never anything else [2016-08-10 18:13:39] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: no exception for people like that? [2016-08-10 18:14:09] habibi : yep hidden shill links is his specialty [2016-08-10 18:14:30] Rado : BFX up to 0.39 now [2016-08-10 18:15:40] rapidtrades : did anyone but Sam get coins [2016-08-10 18:16:59] rapidtrades : i think they deliberately made anyone change everything so they can put all of us on hold [2016-08-10 18:16:59] aethlios : to sell or not to sell to 0.5?? [2016-08-10 18:17:18] rapidtrades : im not selling below 0.8 [2016-08-10 18:17:59] aethlios : rapidtrades: we can use them as margin to trade other coins or arb with bitmex, make capital work for ass!!! [2016-08-10 18:18:08] rapidtrades : i don't think it will go there but its my sue token [2016-08-10 18:18:20] rapidtrades : aethlios: pretty sure u can not [2016-08-10 18:19:14] rapidtrades : aethlios: oh yeah u mean arb the bfx coin [2016-08-10 18:19:30] rapidtrades : maybe but then i could lose my sue token [2016-08-10 18:19:39] rapidtrades : and i rly want to sue [2016-08-10 18:19:58] aethlios : rapidtrades: yes, also it is be in margin in finex, use it as collateral to trade other coins btc etc. [2016-08-10 18:20:26] Tetsuo : could somebody plz explain to me how those longs on Finex did get closed and who bought them? [2016-08-10 18:20:31] muirtastic : wtf..I sold my BFX tokens at .33 and now up to .42 [2016-08-10 18:20:40] habibi : wtf wtf? [2016-08-10 18:20:48] rapidtrades : like i said don't sell [2016-08-10 18:20:59] habibi : u said it will go to zero past several days [2016-08-10 18:21:05] habibi : so now stfu and dont give any advices [2016-08-10 18:21:10] rapidtrades : i'd be surprised if it goes above 50 [2016-08-10 18:21:18] rapidtrades : habibi: i said no such thing dummy [2016-08-10 18:21:24] rapidtrades : i may have called it worthless [2016-08-10 18:21:26] Tetsuo : habibi: how does french cock taste? [2016-08-10 18:21:31] muirtastic : If someone is going to invest in the company or buy it out, would make sense for them to buy up all the bfx tokens. [2016-08-10 18:21:31] Rado : over $50k at 0.00075 [2016-08-10 18:21:46] habibi : Tetsuo: ? [2016-08-10 18:21:48] rapidtrades : muirtastic: they're just tokens man [2016-08-10 18:22:03] rapidtrades : they don't give u shares and they don't obligate finex to buy them [2016-08-10 18:22:05] rapidtrades : its shit [2016-08-10 18:25:27] aethlios : I am selling 0.5 and buy back 0.25-0.3 [2016-08-10 18:26:00] bitbucks : when will bitfinex be considered readded to the index price calculation [2016-08-10 18:26:22] Tetsuo : bitbucks: when hell freezes over? [2016-08-10 18:27:13] aethlios : it could trade 0.3 to 0.5 for months [2016-08-10 18:27:37] rapidtrades : looks like noone in that bitcoinmarkets thread got btc [2016-08-10 18:27:45] lockhedge : bitbucks: their price is currently based on the ability to withdraw, they don't reflect the market [2016-08-10 18:27:46] rapidtrades : sam is the only lucky one [2016-08-10 18:28:07] bitbucks : good point , certainly wont be soon [2016-08-10 18:29:42] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: sam could be zane, they at least share the "a" at 2nd place in their name [2016-08-10 18:30:32] BitMEX_Sam : seems legit [2016-08-10 18:31:56] Tetsuo : : - ) [2016-08-10 18:37:05] Tetsuo : Most traders don´t even know how to create a cold wallet and therefore will direct their withdraws to another exchange like Stamp or BTC-E where the only trade that they can make is dump for USD or trade for alts, so there fore bearish outlook for BTC/USD [2016-08-10 18:37:08] BitMEX_Sam : BFXQ16 is live [2016-08-10 18:37:36] sleger : And in addition to all that shit you guys got that tetsuo guy on the chat... Tough [2016-08-10 18:37:47] aethlios : people where all "Lost all, wont take anything back" and now 64% of funds available to withdraw and 40% of loss already available to take it. [2016-08-10 18:39:38] Tetsuo : for now about 0,000001% of all withdrawls are through, if Sam has told the truth [2016-08-10 18:40:36] Tetsuo : sleger: life is tough/sucks.. and then you die [2016-08-10 18:42:43] zanza : the kingscrown steemit spam link says BFXQ16 is 50x :) [2016-08-10 18:43:27] Tetsuo : Status of Finex customers right now : "Sometimes I wish I were a cannibal – less for the pleasure of eating someone than for the pleasure of vomiting him.'" [2016-08-10 18:43:34] zanza : i gotta trart trading thr BFX! [2016-08-10 18:44:14] rapidtrades : processing...for over 2 hrs now [2016-08-10 18:44:19] lockhedge : zanza: historical moment [2016-08-10 18:45:59] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/089282391cbb03f61485edced351b557f2974a4a3f2fac70bd5c89a1dfcb1ca4 just wait till it get comfirmation i guess [2016-08-10 18:46:24] rapidtrades : u lucky dog [2016-08-10 18:46:36] rapidtrades : when did u reqest..timestamp says what [2016-08-10 18:47:03] habibi : use ur braing, its tx from their cold wallet been released recently [2016-08-10 18:47:07] Tetsuo : zanza: y so bearish on BFX? [2016-08-10 18:47:22] rapidtrades : habibi: f off how about that [2016-08-10 18:49:47] Tetsuo : Bitmex: i almost took u as an serious exchange. Why did u have to add BFX coin? U know it could dissapear over night , chances aren´t that small? [2016-08-10 18:50:44] Tetsuo : dissapear= go to 0 [2016-08-10 18:51:05] rapidtrades : bitmex will list anything that makes them $$$$ [2016-08-10 18:51:50] Tetsuo : my hope in human ethics has gone to 0 [2016-08-10 18:52:39] lockhedge : the only major difference to any other shitcoin is that its price is capped at $1 [2016-08-10 18:52:41] CaptainDean : Tetsuo: I aggree [2016-08-10 18:53:24] Roevenger : exchanges aren't unethical for allowing us to have free market [2016-08-10 18:53:39] Tetsuo : lockhedge: most shitcoins at least shine a little bit on the day of their appeareance [2016-08-10 18:53:56] Tetsuo : not pricewise [2016-08-10 18:54:46] lockhedge : Tetsuo: it's the only place to short BFX, so short if you believe it's overpriced [2016-08-10 18:55:01] rapidtrades : i want to die [2016-08-10 18:55:02] aethlios : whales could pump bfx coin to 5 usd and people will buy it. [2016-08-10 18:55:53] Tetsuo : lockhedge: i don´t want to paticipate in anything that has to do with Bitfinex even if it could make me money, i am beeing serious here [2016-08-10 18:56:17] Roevenger : Tetsuo: do you trade ETH? [2016-08-10 18:57:23] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: <<< boy has ethics [2016-08-10 18:57:29] OVS : Tetsuo: You just need to manage your risk. Currently withdrawals are extremely slow so why not make some money in the meantime? if you bought at $.16 and sold at $.35 thats like 120% increase. Its not everyday you see returns like that. [2016-08-10 18:57:51] rapidtrades : don't be stupid OVS [2016-08-10 18:58:31] lockhedge : BFYQ16 inverse is actually like a Bitfinex credit default swap, the instrument of my dreams since 1 year [2016-08-10 18:58:47] lockhedge : BFXQ16 [2016-08-10 19:00:29] Rado : so 1 contract is worth 0.0355 XBT [2016-08-10 19:00:58] Rado : if trading at 0.3474 what does that mean in BTC? [2016-08-10 19:02:10] j8 : it's quanto with a multiplier of 0.1 so the btc notional is 0.1*0.3474 [2016-08-10 19:03:55] Rado : still don't get it [2016-08-10 19:04:23] Rado : at Bitfinex BFX is trading for 0.0006 BTC [2016-08-10 19:04:29] Rado : how much is it here? [2016-08-10 19:04:45] j8 : nah it's BFXUSD here, but quanto'd into btc [2016-08-10 19:04:54] Rado : ahh [2016-08-10 19:04:56] Rado : get it now [2016-08-10 19:05:03] rapidtrades : greeeaaat [2016-08-10 19:05:04] Rado : thanks j8` [2016-08-10 19:05:11] Rado : shut up rapidtrades [2016-08-10 19:05:14] j8 : np [2016-08-10 19:05:14] rapidtrades : a quanto on finex shitcoin [2016-08-10 19:05:41] BitMEX_Greg : So the price reflects what its trading at on Bitfinex, just that its quanto'd into XBT here [2016-08-10 19:05:53] rapidtrades : coool [2016-08-10 19:06:08] rapidtrades : just what we needed [2016-08-10 19:06:09] j8 : well it's different from the btc quanto series, you would need to know the correlation between BFXUSD and XBTUSD to really price that part [2016-08-10 19:07:32] j8 : same idea for A50 and XBJ [2016-08-10 19:07:44] Rado : rapidtrades: I am getting worried that we are not getting our BTC [2016-08-10 19:08:09] sleger : If you live in a xbt world it makes things easier [2016-08-10 19:08:12] rapidtrades : im worried that this wa a ploy to get us to sell our USD [2016-08-10 19:08:30] rapidtrades : it's now much harder to litigate if they go under [2016-08-10 19:09:11] ett1 : they ran fractional reserves on USD i recon, and had to cover it up [2016-08-10 19:09:26] rapidtrades : yeah i worry that may have been happening [2016-08-10 19:09:49] ett1 : im honestly surprised they didnt disappear with everything [2016-08-10 19:09:54] rapidtrades : any bankruptsy would've exposed the hole [2016-08-10 19:10:24] rapidtrades : sleger: got anything out or taking the fiat route [2016-08-10 19:10:24] ett1 : anybody received withdrawl conformation from bitfinex? [2016-08-10 19:10:39] rapidtrades : only sam and few unknonws on reddit [2016-08-10 19:10:45] rapidtrades : 95% say processing [2016-08-10 19:11:09] rapidtrades : there's also tons of shilling right now ppl upvoting that scammer voorhees [2016-08-10 19:11:26] rapidtrades : 'i think voorhoes is right and this is the best u can do' [2016-08-10 19:11:27] Rado : rapidtrades: I opened a support ticket, but no email or answer from them [2016-08-10 19:11:29] ett1 : ye. zane just ignores what they want [2016-08-10 19:11:34] rapidtrades : trying to build confidence [2016-08-10 19:12:01] ett1 : i sold everything to BTC at market and withdrew as fast as i could [2016-08-10 19:12:34] j8 : they used a low fee on their cold to hot transaction.. shame [2016-08-10 19:12:36] ett1 : fun to spectate though [2016-08-10 19:12:52] ett1 : kinna worth it for the drama entertainment [2016-08-10 19:13:33] Rado : Bitcoin: Processed within 1 minute, subject to spending limits of the account. Processed within 12 hours maximum. [2016-08-10 19:13:50] rapidtrades : did u finally get it? [2016-08-10 19:14:17] Rado : no [2016-08-10 19:14:30] Rado : I did withdraw 16 BTC in march from them [2016-08-10 19:14:30] rapidtrades : u got the email do [2016-08-10 19:14:37] rapidtrades : wait what [2016-08-10 19:14:38] Rado : I got the email and confirmed [2016-08-10 19:14:40] ett1 : "Processed within 1 minute, ..." misleading, but i cant believe anything they say now [2016-08-10 19:14:50] Rado : but I did not get an email for my support ticket that I opened [2016-08-10 19:14:55] rapidtrades : Rado: great whats ur timestamp [2016-08-10 19:15:14] Rado : Created 10-08-16 09:10:20 [2016-08-10 19:15:23] Rado : rapidtrades: I did not get anything [2016-08-10 19:15:27] Rado : still say processing [2016-08-10 19:15:31] rapidtrades : wtf [2016-08-10 19:15:39] rapidtrades : THEN WHY DID U SAY U GOT THE EMAIL [2016-08-10 19:15:44] ett1 : mines 17:08 nothing [2016-08-10 19:15:47] Rado : read my messages [2016-08-10 19:15:53] rapidtrades : don't wanna [2016-08-10 19:15:58] Rado : ok [2016-08-10 19:16:43] Rado : looks like my timestamp is in my timezone [2016-08-10 19:16:54] ett1 : mine wasnt [2016-08-10 19:17:23] Rado : ett1: what is 17:08? [2016-08-10 19:17:26] rapidtrades : mine is in my timezone too [2016-08-10 19:17:56] ett1 : timestamp for approved withdrawl in my email [2016-08-10 19:19:08] rapidtrades : what does 'approved' withdrawal mean [2016-08-10 19:19:11] Rado : ett1: then you are in Europe somewhere [2016-08-10 19:19:25] Rado : rapidtrades: Bitfinex approved it [2016-08-10 19:19:50] Rado : then transaction needs to be processed on the blockchain [2016-08-10 19:19:54] bitbucks : @rapidtrades you click confirmation email sent to you after initiating withdraw [2016-08-10 19:19:55] Rado : but they are not sending it there [2016-08-10 19:20:17] rapidtrades : did anyone get their money...as in their wallet said u got XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [2016-08-10 19:20:19] aethlios : rapidtrades: means coins closer to freedom [2016-08-10 19:20:21] ett1 : im in asia now actually, but from UK & probably what my account settings are [2016-08-10 19:20:34] ett1 : anye=way, it was over 1 hour ago [2016-08-10 19:20:38] ett1 : just after they opened [2016-08-10 19:20:46] rapidtrades : ^^^ ban him he can't type [2016-08-10 19:21:04] rapidtrades : they opened 3 hrs ago dude [2016-08-10 19:21:09] Rado : no one did [2016-08-10 19:21:32] rapidtrades : ^^^^ ban Rado too, not his best day here [2016-08-10 19:21:32] ett1 : rapidtrades: nope [2016-08-10 19:22:24] rapidtrades : WHAT DO U MEAN NOPE THEY OPENED AT 16 UTC [2016-08-10 19:22:28] Rado : Only if you sell your BFX your withdrawal gets processed [2016-08-10 19:22:35] Rado : lol [2016-08-10 19:22:40] rapidtrades : i was afraid of that [2016-08-10 19:22:47] BitMEX_Sam : That's not true [2016-08-10 19:22:52] BitMEX_Sam : I think it's a factor of withdrawal size & time [2016-08-10 19:22:58] rapidtrades : Sam plz [2016-08-10 19:22:59] BitMEX_Sam : it appears they're rearranging their wallets and not applying enough fee [2016-08-10 19:23:10] BitMEX_Sam : In combination with the current spam attack they may not have any confirmed funds [2016-08-10 19:23:24] rapidtrades : what 'spam attack' [2016-08-10 19:23:37] BitMEX_Sam : mempools filling up again from spam txs [2016-08-10 19:23:47] rapidtrades : there's always smth shitty going on in this space man [2016-08-10 19:23:54] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: are you saying if I cancel my withdrawal and created 10 with 1 BTC each they will process [2016-08-10 19:23:55] rapidtrades : u gotta sleep with one eye open [2016-08-10 19:24:05] rapidtrades : Rado: try it, for us [2016-08-10 19:24:11] ett1 : i sleep great, just dont day trade [2016-08-10 19:24:19] ett1 : i miss all sorts of shit [2016-08-10 19:24:21] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: I'm saying that could be true, but not that it is [2016-08-10 19:24:30] rapidtrades : sacrifice and lose ur spot for us Rado [2016-08-10 19:24:36] Rado : I don't want to try it [2016-08-10 19:24:37] Rado : :( [2016-08-10 19:24:43] rapidtrades : u could win big...or lose little [2016-08-10 19:24:51] rapidtrades : r/r decent [2016-08-10 19:25:01] Rado : If my BFX order gets filled I will send 3 more BTC [2016-08-10 19:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.002884 [2016-08-10 19:26:37] ett1 : BitMEX_Sam: you'd see when transactions start coming thru, right. surely quite a few people will be withdrawing to their bitmex wallets for convenience? [2016-08-10 19:27:04] BitMEX_Sam : ett1: Sure [2016-08-10 19:27:24] rapidtrades : so are they [2016-08-10 19:28:09] ett1 : im not impatient or anything, just cant believe they are going to send anything yet because of how sketchy theyve been [2016-08-10 19:28:24] aethlios : everything will be fine, provided nobody panics... and finex coin soon above 1 usd, don't worry blockchain goddess will help us. [2016-08-10 19:29:13] ett1 : i cant wrap my head around BFX coin. Its like when yobit launched LISK early [2016-08-10 19:29:45] rapidtrades : i want to dieeeeeeeeeeee [2016-08-10 19:31:02] ett1 : im surprised no huge premium on Bitfinex [2016-08-10 19:31:03] rapidtrades : this could take days to process [2016-08-10 19:31:07] rapidtrades : at this speed [2016-08-10 19:31:16] aethlios : I am selling at 0.5. As they say in my village: better 5 in hand than 10 and waiting [2016-08-10 19:32:22] rapidtrades : it's not even at 0.5 [2016-08-10 19:35:49] rapidtrades : i want my monieee [2016-08-10 19:36:04] rapidtrades : man i hate this helpless feeling [2016-08-10 19:37:20] ett1 : i like karpeles. he really did something for bitcoin and it was an innovation when he pulled his stolem coins scheme. but these bitfinex guys are lame [2016-08-10 19:38:10] aethlios : maybe we wont see again such a large hacking. in 2 year next one much smaller. [2016-08-10 19:38:40] lockhedge : slow withdrawals are an interesting way of getting rid of the premium [2016-08-10 19:38:51] ett1 : if they get away with it, others will start falling like dominos i think [2016-08-10 19:39:21] aethlios : stupid bitgo cooperation. keep it simple, cold and manual. [2016-08-10 19:39:21] ett1 : inside jobs go unpunished [2016-08-10 19:43:01] muieLaRapid : yes, karpeles was a true innovator in the way he stole [2016-08-10 19:43:12] muieLaRapid : he is the true 21st centurey entrepreneur [2016-08-10 19:43:50] muieLaRapid : him and erdogan [2016-08-10 19:44:50] muieLaRapid : who are your idols? [2016-08-10 19:45:16] ett1 : nobody springs to mind. let me think [2016-08-10 19:45:32] ett1 : mark isnt an idol, but he certainly gets my respect [2016-08-10 19:46:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.002836 [2016-08-10 19:46:07] ett1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob9Ak1t09Ao&t=2m36s [2016-08-10 19:46:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.002779 [2016-08-10 19:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2024 @ 0.002729 [2016-08-10 19:50:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1500 @ 0.002731 [2016-08-10 19:50:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 125 @ 0.02051 [2016-08-10 19:58:43] muieLaRapid : yeah those were the wild riot days [2016-08-10 20:00:36] muieLaRapid : what a joke [2016-08-10 20:04:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 60 @ 0.02042 [2016-08-10 20:05:15] rapidtrades : how do we know they're actually sending out coins instead of using our BTC to buy the tokens [2016-08-10 20:05:45] Tetsuo : zane says so [2016-08-10 20:06:10] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCR3722ACTI [2016-08-10 20:07:16] Rado : rapidtrades: they will only buy the tokens if they know they can get $1 for them quickly [2016-08-10 20:07:24] Rado : how are they going to do that? [2016-08-10 20:07:32] Rado : if they got an investment maybe [2016-08-10 20:07:42] Rado : and return the money to the users [2016-08-10 20:07:46] Rado : I don't know [2016-08-10 20:07:50] Rado : it doesn't make sense [2016-08-10 20:08:06] Rado : the only thing is someone said they want to control the flow of BTC to other exchanges [2016-08-10 20:08:23] Rado : but no one seems to be getting anything [2016-08-10 20:08:30] Rado : so that theory is not right either [2016-08-10 20:08:57] rapidtrades : noone is getting anything [2016-08-10 20:09:23] rapidtrades : we're buttfinessed once more [2016-08-10 20:09:38] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1B3brMeSjxy8K7W3tTWfdLTbNruVc24Fe6 first chunk of withdraws [2016-08-10 20:09:39] habibi : u asshole [2016-08-10 20:09:48] rapidtrades : habibi: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [2016-08-10 20:09:52] rapidtrades : u polsih jew [2016-08-10 20:10:23] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g sorry here * [2016-08-10 20:10:33] rapidtrades : 13 transactions with 4,000 coins [2016-08-10 20:10:46] rapidtrades : great so theyre paying off whales or trading with our coins [2016-08-10 20:10:55] rapidtrades : tnx for proving my point u tool [2016-08-10 20:11:02] Rado : rapidtrades: my status changed back to Approved [2016-08-10 20:11:06] Rado : what does your say? [2016-08-10 20:11:24] rapidtrades : processing but i got in bit later then u [2016-08-10 20:11:37] rapidtrades : Rado: got the email? [2016-08-10 20:11:47] Rado : I thought Approved was before processing [2016-08-10 20:11:49] habibi : rapidtrades: https://blockchain.info/pl/address/3E6KGjmwid1SUYJTdj98uV9TKt8JKxGaHF look at that whale, 1.49 btc wow much whale [2016-08-10 20:12:03] rapidtrades : habibi: screeeeeeeeeeeew u [2016-08-10 20:12:19] rapidtrades : Rado: yeah that's not good..wtf [2016-08-10 20:12:35] rapidtrades : smone reported on reddit theirs got cancelled [2016-08-10 20:12:50] Rado : rapidtrades: here is a reply to my support ticket [2016-08-10 20:12:52] Rado : Withdrawals will take some time to process. We kindly ask for your patience and understanding. Thank you. Kind regards, Ninel Bitfinex Support Team [2016-08-10 20:13:10] rapidtrades : yeah ok [2016-08-10 20:14:27] Rado : saying Processing again [2016-08-10 20:14:28] Rado : pfew [2016-08-10 20:14:30] Rado : fuckers [2016-08-10 20:14:37] j8 : Ninel, that's Lenin backwards [2016-08-10 20:14:41] rapidtrades : lol [2016-08-10 20:14:43] Rado : lol [2016-08-10 20:15:00] Rado : I got it rapidtrades [2016-08-10 20:15:01] j8 : don't trust em [2016-08-10 20:15:09] rapidtrades : noone trusts them [2016-08-10 20:15:16] rapidtrades : that's why they're doing it this slow [2016-08-10 20:15:20] Rado : Withdrawal #1281697 has been approved - Aug 10 01:12 PM [2016-08-10 20:15:34] rapidtrades : guys plz trade and cancel ur withdrawalesses [2016-08-10 20:15:47] Rado : Why did I get this email now? [2016-08-10 20:15:53] Rado : it was approved long time ago [2016-08-10 20:16:00] rapidtrades : man that sucks [2016-08-10 20:16:15] rapidtrades : no wait i didn't get that [2016-08-10 20:16:25] rapidtrades : Rado: ur get ur coins soon i think [2016-08-10 20:16:37] rapidtrades : cos mine is processing and never got aprroved [2016-08-10 20:16:40] rapidtrades : the email [2016-08-10 20:16:59] habibi : wow rapidtrade actually read sth property :D thats some nice progress [2016-08-10 20:17:19] Rado : lets hope [2016-08-10 20:17:24] Rado : will report as soon as I get them [2016-08-10 20:17:47] rapidtrades : habibi: its a same ur grandparents escaped the holocaust [2016-08-10 20:18:07] habibi : u are really miserable person saying things like that :) [2016-08-10 20:18:29] rapidtrades : NO U [2016-08-10 20:18:45] Rado : cmon guys [2016-08-10 20:19:20] CryptoGoon : g unit [2016-08-10 20:19:51] rapidtrades : ok so Rado was one of the first and we just got his approved thing [2016-08-10 20:19:59] rapidtrades : man this will take ages [2016-08-10 20:20:32] rapidtrades : how f*cking slow do u have to click to manually approve [2016-08-10 20:20:50] rapidtrades : more security theather afte that pasa/2fa change few days ago [2016-08-10 20:21:08] CryptoGoon : whats the minimum deposit I hear exchanges are getting hacked these days [2016-08-10 20:21:12] CryptoGoon : :D [2016-08-10 20:21:19] rapidtrades : Rado: does it still say processing [2016-08-10 20:21:33] Rado : yes [2016-08-10 20:21:49] rapidtrades : Rado: and the emil says what approximately [2016-08-10 20:22:03] rapidtrades : is it like the email of old...when finex wasn't bankrupt [2016-08-10 20:22:51] Rado : Withdrawal Approved Your withdrawal #1281697 of 10.51313227 BTC via BITCOIN Approved Withdrawal processing time: ...... [2016-08-10 20:23:26] rapidtrades : cool ur in [2016-08-10 20:23:31] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1Kr6QSydW9bFQG1mXiPNNu6WpJGmUa9i1g Just watch this adress, when incomign coins got comfirmation, expect another chunk of withdraws to people soon after. [2016-08-10 20:23:43] rapidtrades : now if only they can get the sending fees rght [2016-08-10 20:24:24] rapidtrades : why are they sending 1,000s and 100s of BTC while we can't get our measly <50 btc [2016-08-10 20:24:24] Rado : rapidtrades: it's exactly the same as before [2016-08-10 20:24:31] Rado : next email should say sent [2016-08-10 20:24:44] rapidtrades : i never got aprroved email [2016-08-10 20:24:44] Tetsuo : i am glad that the FBI , which they claimed is investigating in the theft, approved all of this [2016-08-10 20:24:53] rapidtrades : FBI is cool with this [2016-08-10 20:25:01] Tetsuo : k [2016-08-10 20:25:14] rapidtrades : clearly 100% legal payout out some while others get shafted [2016-08-10 20:25:44] rapidtrades : this is not a ponzi like the owner of bitfinex always wanted to make [2016-08-10 20:25:49] rapidtrades : THIS IS NOT A PONZI [2016-08-10 20:26:49] rapidtrades : are they running out of BTC yet? [2016-08-10 20:27:12] rapidtrades : what happens if over 48% of BTC is asked for? [2016-08-10 20:27:25] rapidtrades : well over 52% [2016-08-10 20:27:38] rapidtrades : are they gonna buy the rest on market or just stop [2016-08-10 20:27:43] rapidtrades : lol we tried lolzie [2016-08-10 20:29:44] j8 : oh my.. 2/3 of my withdrawals have sent [2016-08-10 20:30:13] rapidtrades : sent where [2016-08-10 20:30:26] j8 : to my addresses. unconfirmed tx's [2016-08-10 20:30:34] rapidtrades : small? [2016-08-10 20:30:40] j8 : nope [2016-08-10 20:30:45] j8 : medium [2016-08-10 20:30:45] rapidtrades : sweet [2016-08-10 20:30:51] rapidtrades : mind sharing the time [2016-08-10 20:31:19] j8 : first was from 16:10 UTC [2016-08-10 20:31:29] rapidtrades : cool like rado [2016-08-10 20:32:04] j8 : third was from 19:20 UTC and i got it at the same time [2016-08-10 20:32:20] rapidtrades : well shit [2016-08-10 20:32:23] j8 : second one hasn't sent yet [2016-08-10 20:32:31] rapidtrades : so they're doing them randomly or what [2016-08-10 20:32:35] rapidtrades : WHAT JOKE IS THIS [2016-08-10 20:32:37] j8 : apparently [2016-08-10 20:32:38] rapidtrades : WHT THE HELL [2016-08-10 20:32:49] rapidtrades : how can u f*Ck this up [2016-08-10 20:32:55] rapidtrades : U HAD ONE JOB BITFINEX [2016-08-10 20:33:15] rapidtrades : they can't even return what's left of our money properly [2016-08-10 20:33:28] rapidtrades : how can u fail so consistently [2016-08-10 20:33:55] rapidtrades : there should be a medal for this type of thing [2016-08-10 20:34:10] j8 : check out this transaction https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/aab675dd18677016dabea64c03b0d052325be6e336bde46ab36b86b558efb2df [2016-08-10 20:34:23] j8 : rado's in there [2016-08-10 20:34:29] rapidtrades : :( [2016-08-10 20:34:35] rapidtrades : man why am i so slow [2016-08-10 20:34:50] Rado : rapidtrades: Completed [2016-08-10 20:34:58] rapidtrades : grats fellas [2016-08-10 20:36:23] Rado : j8: how did you know mine was in there? [2016-08-10 20:36:39] j8 : because you said the exact amount in chat [2016-08-10 20:36:49] j8 : and i was looking at it because i'm also in there [2016-08-10 20:37:07] Rado : cool [2016-08-10 20:37:41] rapidtrades : j8: how do i search [2016-08-10 20:37:59] j8 : search what? [2016-08-10 20:38:25] Rado : in the output [2016-08-10 20:38:32] Rado : you can search for your address [2016-08-10 20:38:32] rapidtrades : im not in there [2016-08-10 20:38:34] rapidtrades : sigh [2016-08-10 20:38:41] rapidtrades : sigh. [2016-08-10 20:38:59] rapidtrades : at least we're not getting in line....the small fish [2016-08-10 20:39:18] rapidtrades : they already sent 10,000s to their whale buddies or used it to buy tokens [2016-08-10 20:40:00] mexnoob : new to those contracts, if I just use 0x leverage, can I trade just like an exchange(and dont have fees for more than trades)? [2016-08-10 20:40:12] j8 : if you ever need to do fancy blockchain searches check out http://blockchainsql.io/ [2016-08-10 20:40:28] rapidtrades : nah im good tnx [2016-08-10 20:40:40] herpinator : mexnoob: yes, also welcome to the best exchange [2016-08-10 20:40:53] rapidtrades : mexnoob: yeah but there's clawback risk here [2016-08-10 20:41:33] rapidtrades : also some unique stuff with the funding...test it small first [2016-08-10 20:42:33] rapidtrades : all my friends got the coins and i got shit [2016-08-10 20:42:33] j8 : you still pay (or receive) funding fees if you're less than 1x leveraged [2016-08-10 20:43:22] mexnoob : clawback risk = that the bitmex index is wrong? [2016-08-10 20:43:41] mexnoob : what determines if i pay funding fees? [2016-08-10 20:43:43] rapidtrades : gimme a new address...they already emptied the 10k [2016-08-10 20:43:49] rapidtrades : j8: u [2016-08-10 20:43:56] lockhedge : mexnoob: DPE if there are unfilled liquidations https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation [2016-08-10 20:44:08] j8 : rapidtrades: me what [2016-08-10 20:44:29] rapidtrades : gimme new address to watch they emptied that one [2016-08-10 20:45:20] rapidtrades : 10k going like its nothing....are they down to 0 soon [2016-08-10 20:46:06] lockhedge : https://blockchain.info/address/35emx395afKAKAr72VoePVbu3FJvxLPVny [2016-08-10 20:46:13] lockhedge : https://blockchain.info/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW?filter=1 [2016-08-10 20:47:06] rapidtrades : can't search that easily [2016-08-10 20:48:47] j8 : doesn't your wallet watch your address for you? [2016-08-10 20:48:58] rapidtrades : yea? [2016-08-10 20:49:13] j8 : so then you'll know when you get it [2016-08-10 20:49:20] rapidtrades : whatever [2016-08-10 20:50:05] arbitrage001 : how things go [2016-08-10 20:50:09] rapidtrades : emotions are running high as bitfnex wallets go empty [2016-08-10 20:50:19] rapidtrades : this is NOT good news for bitcoin [2016-08-10 20:50:37] arbitrage001 : anyone else think buying bfx token at .32 is a good idea beside me? [2016-08-10 20:51:08] rapidtrades : yeah literally noone here is that stupid [2016-08-10 20:51:13] arbitrage001 : the exchange liability just went down by one third [2016-08-10 20:51:24] rapidtrades : u mean 2/3 [2016-08-10 20:51:28] wurstgelee : thats what i am thinking about too [2016-08-10 20:51:30] arbitrage001 : should price keep dropping, their liability will keep going down [2016-08-10 20:51:39] rapidtrades : it may not have went down at all [2016-08-10 20:51:56] rapidtrades : ppl can argue selling them was only way to get partial compensation [2016-08-10 20:52:02] rapidtrades : and still ask for rest 2/3 [2016-08-10 20:52:04] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: yes 2/3 [2016-08-10 20:52:13] lockhedge : arbitrage001: how will bifinex make more money than they spend in the coming weeks? [2016-08-10 20:52:13] mike23aa : does anyone know when bitmex rebalance XBT with bitfinex index? [2016-08-10 20:52:23] rapidtrades : they're not a legally approved debt instrument [2016-08-10 20:52:36] arbitrage001 : lockhedge: their business model sound [2016-08-10 20:52:43] arbitrage001 : and highly profitable [2016-08-10 20:52:46] rapidtrades : they didn't even back them with anything [2016-08-10 20:52:55] rapidtrades : there's no obligation to rebuy them [2016-08-10 20:53:06] rapidtrades : they're just shiny coinz [2016-08-10 20:53:10] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: they word it in such way to reduce their liability [2016-08-10 20:53:19] Rizky : if everyone bails no future revenue to make them good either [2016-08-10 20:53:21] rapidtrades : didn't u read what i said? [2016-08-10 20:53:28] rapidtrades : that's the dumbest thing i heard [2016-08-10 20:53:31] arbitrage001 : intentionally make people to sell way below par [2016-08-10 20:53:46] rapidtrades : can i issue some paper currency to pay off my mortgage#/ [2016-08-10 20:54:17] rapidtrades : i'll just write some 100000101010 on a piece of paper and give it to the bank [2016-08-10 20:54:19] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: if you have good business model, high profit bussniess and good trust [2016-08-10 20:54:47] rapidtrades : here u go Mr. Banker...im not saying this is a IOU...im not saying i will ever rebuy this from u [2016-08-10 20:54:53] rapidtrades : just have it...for keeps [2016-08-10 20:54:57] lockhedge : arbitrage001: they have rising overheads (litigation costs, security consulting fees...) and very likely much less revenue [2016-08-10 20:55:03] rapidtrades : as a souvenir of whow stupid u were [2016-08-10 20:55:39] arbitrage001 : lockhedge: true, but betting at 0.32 still a good bet [2016-08-10 20:55:53] rapidtrades : j8: how many coins to they have left chain inspector [2016-08-10 20:55:58] rapidtrades : this is a disaster [2016-08-10 20:56:20] j8 : i don't keep track of all their addresses. [2016-08-10 20:57:38] muieLaRapid : bifinex isn't working 4 me [2016-08-10 20:58:13] muieLaRapid : there must have been 2 many withdrawals [2016-08-10 20:59:07] Rado : j8: I have 2 BTC lost from a long time ago. From my first wallet [2016-08-10 20:59:22] Rado : I still have all the transaction IDs and the backup of my original wallet [2016-08-10 20:59:31] Rado : are you up for helping me recover them? [2016-08-10 20:59:48] j8 : so missing a passphrase? [2016-08-10 20:59:49] Rado : I will give you big chunk of them [2016-08-10 21:00:02] Rado : I have the password for the Wallet [2016-08-10 21:00:22] j8 : whats the problem then [2016-08-10 21:01:04] Rado : I send some BTC to another address [2016-08-10 21:01:15] Rado : the 2 BTC left are in another address [2016-08-10 21:01:28] Rado : the wallet was a web wallet and it's not there anymore [2016-08-10 21:01:38] Rado : so I have no idea how to get them from that new address [2016-08-10 21:01:57] habibi : which service u used? [2016-08-10 21:02:28] Rado : let me try to remember the exact name [2016-08-10 21:03:22] j8 : normally a web wallet would give you a backup when you set it up.. if you don't have that and the service has disappeared then you're probably out of luck [2016-08-10 21:03:39] Rado : I do have the original backup [2016-08-10 21:03:48] Rado : but not a backup after the first transaction [2016-08-10 21:04:12] Rado : not sure why they were creating a new address when I made a transaction for part of the coins [2016-08-10 21:04:59] Rado : 1. First transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1HHkWyw3hAniyJzuwgax8Q7g3u3ZfiBtga [2016-08-10 21:05:13] Rado : 2. Second transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1N4cNpHhw7DeYvsjkNeBihWEYrxQxSFE3d [2016-08-10 21:05:34] Rado : 3. Final destination of the bitcoins: https://blockchain.info/address/1JEX9DZMj47hUsTrC2iW3PNhL8Nf4wiLni [2016-08-10 21:05:38] aethlios : what % of their coins left already?? [2016-08-10 21:06:24] Rado : j8: the 1.995 at 1JEX9DZMj47hUsTrC2iW3PNhL8Nf4wiLni are mine [2016-08-10 21:06:30] Rado : no idea how to get them [2016-08-10 21:06:48] habibi : 82k left from 127k [2016-08-10 21:07:23] Rado : let me know, I will give you 0.995 BTC [2016-08-10 21:07:43] Rado : half of it basically [2016-08-10 21:07:54] j8 : Rado: it's probably a change address which is included in the backup that you have [2016-08-10 21:08:16] Rado : why would it be in the first backup of the wallet? [2016-08-10 21:09:04] lockhedge : habibi: plus 5k from here https://blockchain.info/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW?filter=1