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[2016-08-10 12:56:51] zanza : dont say that outloud sleger
[2016-08-10 12:57:14] Boontjie : sleger: yeah bro. shhh
[2016-08-10 12:57:33] zanza : that will be the noob tax
[2016-08-10 12:58:31] sleger : i dont like dumb rules, dumb rules are ones easy to bypass like that, they should make smarter rules, now I have to waste time switching between accounts to do exactly what I could have done yesterday easily
[2016-08-10 12:59:04] Boontjie : BitMEX_Jinming: Thanks, I understand. The current funding is fixed from the previous period, meaning you average the rate over time from polo
[2016-08-10 12:59:28] BitMEX_Jinming : Boontjie: yes:)
[2016-08-10 13:00:17] Boontjie : sleger: I would suggest you build an API bot. To spam all the requests to your different accounts. Its very easy to do
[2016-08-10 13:22:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 13500 @ 593.95
[2016-08-10 13:22:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 13017 @ 594.31
[2016-08-10 13:22:43] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 750 @ 594.80
[2016-08-10 13:23:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 820 @ 595.81
[2016-08-10 13:26:09] meh : volume?
[2016-08-10 13:26:30] justinlooking : sleger: u know the email + trick?
[2016-08-10 13:26:44] Rado : yeah
[2016-08-10 13:26:47] Rado : on gmail
[2016-08-10 13:27:00] sleger : yes, that's enough for here?
[2016-08-10 13:27:11] Rado : sleger+bitmex1@
[2016-08-10 13:27:20] j8 : would take 8 accounts, or 8% maintenance margin, to buy the liquidation on XBTU16. pretty extreme
[2016-08-10 13:27:20] Rado : sleger+bitmex2@
[2016-08-10 13:27:40] Rado : j8: that's a lot
[2016-08-10 13:28:03] sleger : why did they reduce it so much ?
[2016-08-10 13:28:49] Rado : j8: it's 363 XBT order size
[2016-08-10 13:29:02] Rado : so yes your are right 8 X 50
[2016-08-10 13:29:08] j8 : i dunno from the email i thought they were only reducing it on XBTUSD. hows it goin @sleger
[2016-08-10 13:29:23] sleger : mark is off for U16 as usual
[2016-08-10 13:29:35] Rado : I think they want to reduce the big liquidations
[2016-08-10 13:29:44] sleger : j8: no, eth is 50xbt now, so tiny ! All going well thanks, you ?
[2016-08-10 13:29:52] Rado : all the DPE comes from huge liq
[2016-08-10 13:30:08] sleger : Rado: yes so now they're gonna come for more accounts, but same thing
[2016-08-10 13:30:14] Rado : sleger: it's 100 XBT on swap
[2016-08-10 13:30:47] Rado : 100 XBT is good for me :-)
[2016-08-10 13:30:55] Rado : <-- small fish
[2016-08-10 13:31:21] j8 : sleger: alright, picking up the pieces from last week.. wasn't fun
[2016-08-10 13:31:45] sleger : i would buy some U16 but I already have 90xbt position so I guess they prefer to keep liquidation orders in the book
[2016-08-10 13:32:05] sleger : j8: i own a few tens of thousands of the new "xbt coin"
[2016-08-10 13:32:49] j8 : they've been trying pretty hard to not fill that liquidation, it's moved up from 612. oh i'm swimming in bfx coin too :)
[2016-08-10 13:33:46] Rado : I think they can not re open trading
[2016-08-10 13:33:48] Rado : Bitfinex
[2016-08-10 13:33:59] Rado : I mean withdrawals
[2016-08-10 13:34:03] sleger : yeah there system to minimize the # of occurences of DPE is pretty stupid IMO
[2016-08-10 13:34:09] sleger : *their
[2016-08-10 13:34:11] Rado : if they do 90% will be gone
[2016-08-10 13:34:49] Rado : sleger: I think these are just default risk limits
[2016-08-10 13:34:54] Rado : they can increase them per account
[2016-08-10 13:35:05] Rado : based on the account standing
[2016-08-10 13:35:12] Rado : you should request an increase
[2016-08-10 13:35:26] sleger : thats not how it works, you have to risk more MM % to increase
[2016-08-10 13:36:55] Rado : more MM %?
[2016-08-10 13:37:24] sleger : yes, read the email
[2016-08-10 13:37:30] sleger : MM=maint margin
[2016-08-10 13:38:31] j8 : it might be a good system, except that anyone who wants to can easily abuse it with many accounts. so it punishes honest folks and doesn't actually decrease DPE risk..
[2016-08-10 13:40:09] sleger : Also I am wondering about this : "Risk Limit90.2485 / 50 XBT" but "XBTU16 10621 67.5379 XBT "
[2016-08-10 13:40:17] j8 : i don't think i'll go to the trouble of setting up a lot of accounts, i'll just end up trading 1/10 as much here
[2016-08-10 13:40:26] Rado : so it doesn't matter how many BTC you have in the account?
[2016-08-10 13:40:43] Rado : j8: I agree
[2016-08-10 13:40:50] Rado : that will be the result
[2016-08-10 13:40:58] sleger : ah that's exactly what I did after they decided to randomly steal 10k$ from my account to give to other customers, since I traded 10% of what I did before, and will continue to do so
[2016-08-10 13:41:39] Rado : sleger you got liquidated because of the change or there was DPE?
[2016-08-10 13:41:46] sleger : none
[2016-08-10 13:41:57] Rado : I don't know the full story
[2016-08-10 13:42:22] sleger : they made a change without notice that strongly manipulated the price of the swap (introduction of funding fee) while I had a large open position
[2016-08-10 13:43:00] sleger : that caused the premium (10$ then) to evaporate suddenly and I had a long 1k xbt position
[2016-08-10 13:43:01] Rado : so the funding fee affected your position
[2016-08-10 13:43:02] Rado : got it
[2016-08-10 13:43:18] sleger : no, it affected the price of the underlying
[2016-08-10 13:43:41] sleger : they basically changed the value of the contract without letting users settle their positions
[2016-08-10 13:43:50] j8 : the original way the swap was designed was a disaster
[2016-08-10 13:44:16] sleger : it was what it was, i dont mind trading a stupid product as long as rules dont change
[2016-08-10 13:45:56] Rado : now they implemented 1 week or 2 weeks advance notice n changes
[2016-08-10 13:46:09] sleger : because of that
[2016-08-10 13:46:24] sleger : they realized they did something completely illegal
[2016-08-10 13:46:34] Rado : by the way they made a change in the software because I got liquidated on ETH
[2016-08-10 13:46:54] Rado : it used to be the number of contracts stayed the same when you switch contracts
[2016-08-10 13:47:35] Rado : so I was trading 5000 XBTUSD and 500 ETH
[2016-08-10 13:47:47] Rado : I entered a stop on my ETH trade
[2016-08-10 13:47:55] Rado : but did not notice it was 5000
[2016-08-10 13:48:10] Rado : the stop executed at night
[2016-08-10 13:48:16] sleger : yes sucks, but that was still somewhat your fault there
[2016-08-10 13:48:17] Rado : and then reversed again to liquidate me
[2016-08-10 13:48:25] Rado : you are right
[2016-08-10 13:48:33] Rado : but the software got improved because of that
[2016-08-10 13:51:14] Rado : where is rapidtrades?
[2016-08-10 13:55:52] Rado : wow
[2016-08-10 13:57:06] Rado : rumour that there is a 3 mln USD bounty for the Bitfinex coins
[2016-08-10 13:59:36] Rado : China leading this pop on BTC
[2016-08-10 13:59:43] Rado : were there any news?
[2016-08-10 14:04:36] Rado : Lisk moving today
[2016-08-10 14:04:47] Rado : new version of the software getting released
[2016-08-10 14:04:49] j8 : bitfinex post
[2016-08-10 14:05:22] Rado : where j8?
[2016-08-10 14:05:24] j8 : https://bitfinex.statuspage.io/
[2016-08-10 14:06:11] j8 : pumped 40 minutes before it was public
[2016-08-10 14:06:14] Rado : wow
[2016-08-10 14:06:15] j8 : classic
[2016-08-10 14:06:20] Rado : they are enabling withdrawals
[2016-08-10 14:06:24] lockhedge : they are enabling trading in 2h?
[2016-08-10 14:06:38] Rado : it will be very interesting
[2016-08-10 14:07:24] Rado : j8: after they enable it there will be a bigger pump
[2016-08-10 14:07:45] Rado : everyone that has USD will buy BTC so they can withdraw easily
[2016-08-10 14:08:02] j8 : Rado: will have to see what the premium on bitfinex is, could mean selling on other exchanges
[2016-08-10 14:08:45] Rado : right
[2016-08-10 14:08:55] Rado : but the coins first need to move
[2016-08-10 14:09:06] Rado : so there will be volatility fo rsure
[2016-08-10 14:09:44] Rado : Exchange trading will also be enabled for the BFX token on pairs BFXUSD and BFXBTC
[2016-08-10 14:10:04] Rado : I don't get how will this trade
[2016-08-10 14:10:09] j8 : i'm glad it's withdrawals + trading at the same time at least
[2016-08-10 14:10:22] Rado : is it going to start trading at $1?
[2016-08-10 14:10:29] Rado : j8: agreed
[2016-08-10 14:10:45] Rado : BFX token will plumet
[2016-08-10 14:10:57] j8 : it will start wherever people place orders
[2016-08-10 14:11:16] sleger : j8: what's your view of the price after few hours after launch of bfxusd ?
[2016-08-10 14:12:07] Rado : I think it will plummet and then speculators will start bidding it
[2016-08-10 14:12:17] j8 : sleger: $604.06
[2016-08-10 14:12:29] sleger : j8: bfxusd price ?
[2016-08-10 14:12:37] j8 : right back where we were. ha
[2016-08-10 14:12:40] Rado : j8: he was asking about the token
[2016-08-10 14:12:47] Rado : I think 0.3 USD
[2016-08-10 14:12:48] j8 : i see.
[2016-08-10 14:13:23] sleger : Rado: 0.3 is quite optimistic, i'd say it's worth 0.1-0.2 but expect it to trade 0.2-0.3 after couple of hours
[2016-08-10 14:13:42] j8 : yeah somewhere in there. 0.3 is not unreasonable
[2016-08-10 14:13:45] Rado : yes sleger
[2016-08-10 14:13:54] Rado : I think people will bid it up if it's 0.1
[2016-08-10 14:13:55] sleger : i will offer mine at 0.5 asap
[2016-08-10 14:14:07] Rado : :-)
[2016-08-10 14:14:24] Rado : and then buy them back at 0.2
[2016-08-10 14:14:26] Rado : lol
[2016-08-10 14:14:47] Rado : there is no dull moment with crypto
[2016-08-10 14:14:55] aethlios : 16:00 utc is in 3 hours??
[2016-08-10 14:15:02] Rado : 2 hours
[2016-08-10 14:15:11] Rado : 1:45 to be precies
[2016-08-10 14:16:03] Rado : sleger: do you have the same issue as me? I can't click on exchange and margin trading tabs in BFX
[2016-08-10 14:16:23] Rado : it goes to funding every time
[2016-08-10 14:16:33] Rado : it was working before
[2016-08-10 14:17:54] aethlios : what price you think a bargain for the token??
[2016-08-10 14:18:03] Mangalica : 5 cents
[2016-08-10 14:18:05] aethlios : token will start trading also.
[2016-08-10 14:18:21] aethlios : 5 to 15 cents I am considering also.
[2016-08-10 14:18:21] Rado : Mangalica: lol
[2016-08-10 14:18:26] Rado : 5 cents is low
[2016-08-10 14:18:41] Rado : here we go
[2016-08-10 14:18:54] Rado : XBTUSD going
[2016-08-10 14:19:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2 @ 0.003013 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-10 14:19:17] zanza : where can I buy BFX token ?
[2016-08-10 14:19:21] Rado : Please note that U.S. residents will only be able to sell—not buy—BFX tokens at this time.
[2016-08-10 14:19:28] aethlios : 5 to 10 cents to but the dump, us cant buy, few usd left to buy the 70 mill. supply. many will dump tio buy btc and escape
[2016-08-10 14:19:36] Rado : zanza: only on Bitfinex
[2016-08-10 14:19:38] Rado : for now
[2016-08-10 14:19:41] sleger : Rado: I can click on those
[2016-08-10 14:19:44] Rado : maybe Polo will list them later
[2016-08-10 14:19:50] Rado : sleger: thanks
[2016-08-10 14:19:53] zanza : dont have finex acct
[2016-08-10 14:19:54] Rado : will try another browser
[2016-08-10 14:20:05] Rado : zanza: don't open one lol
[2016-08-10 14:20:15] aethlios : can bitmex create a finex token contract please????????????????
[2016-08-10 14:20:24] j8 : Rado: i had the same problem yesterday
[2016-08-10 14:20:24] Rado : I think they will
[2016-08-10 14:20:27] zanza : yes, i need 10x leverage
[2016-08-10 14:20:39] Rado : j8: what did you do?
[2016-08-10 14:20:41] aethlios : do it fast as ETC
[2016-08-10 14:20:45] Rado : clear cache?
[2016-08-10 14:20:49] sleger : Rado: sorry i can click but yes it does go to margin funding
[2016-08-10 14:20:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 200 @ 0.02037
[2016-08-10 14:20:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 110 @ 0.02036
[2016-08-10 14:20:59] Rado : ok
[2016-08-10 14:21:02] j8 : Rado: i just figured they disabled / redirected those
[2016-08-10 14:21:23] Rado : just wanted to make sure that they are doing it and it's not for me only
[2016-08-10 14:21:58] aethlios : lets see the premium of finex btc
[2016-08-10 14:23:13] Rado : ETC falling, ETH up, LSK pump, BFX token, BTC pumping
[2016-08-10 14:23:18] Rado : so many to chose from
[2016-08-10 14:23:20] Rado : :-)
[2016-08-10 14:23:53] Rado : sharpen your knifes boys and girls
[2016-08-10 14:23:59] Rado : do we have girls in here?
[2016-08-10 14:27:04] zanza : RIP ETC
[2016-08-10 14:28:17] zanza : im a grill xD
[2016-08-10 14:28:35] Rado : zanza: :-)
[2016-08-10 14:28:45] Rado : You might be the only one
[2016-08-10 14:29:00] Rado : we need at least one girl in here for luck
[2016-08-10 14:29:27] Rado : I think I will be shorting the BTC pop
[2016-08-10 14:29:31] Rado : brb
[2016-08-10 14:35:53] aethlios : what did you understand tokens are?? a clain to the loss? no equity??
[2016-08-10 14:37:25] Rado : aethlios: tokens are not equity from iFinex (the company)
[2016-08-10 14:37:26] lockhedge : generally they are nothing, but Bitfinex may decide to exchange them for equity/assets
[2016-08-10 14:37:29] j8 : it's an iou
[2016-08-10 14:37:31] Rado : they could have been
[2016-08-10 14:37:38] Rado : right
[2016-08-10 14:39:11] aethlios : they should have a 5 year oeriod to be called from finex, or give you equity after. no interest, no income.
[2016-08-10 14:40:02] Rado : aethlios: that would have been good
[2016-08-10 14:40:17] Rado : but there was nothing like that in their announcement
[2016-08-10 14:40:39] lockhedge : i bet they have special deal to buy these tokens back, they must have a market maker who provides liquidity
[2016-08-10 14:41:53] sleger : j8: are you going to sell yours ?
[2016-08-10 14:42:11] j8 : i dunno, the whole thing is pretty sketchy
[2016-08-10 14:42:30] j8 : but yeah i'd sell them at some price
[2016-08-10 14:43:07] j8 : i'm a bit skeptical that they'll actually get the platform up and keep it up
[2016-08-10 14:43:42] j8 : would like to wash my hands of the whole mess
[2016-08-10 14:45:49] j8 : so first priority is getting the remaining funds out. the other 36%, we'll see
[2016-08-10 14:46:33] sleger : j8: not afraid of losing possibility of legal action if you touch their coin ?
[2016-08-10 14:47:18] aethlios : yes they could buy most tockens to 0.2 from dumpers, and then pay all at 1 usd, use 15 mil. from companies cash to pay all, but finex will be 70% of all, but news will write: finex pays all losses to investors.
[2016-08-10 14:47:52] j8 : i will accept a settlement, at some price, rather than go to court @sleger
[2016-08-10 14:48:28] j8 : but not at ten cents on the dollar
[2016-08-10 14:50:05] sleger : yes, anything less than 0.5 I would hesitate to sell any
[2016-08-10 14:51:39] Rado : aethlios: that's a good idea, but not sure Bitfinex will spend even a dollar to help their customers
[2016-08-10 14:51:57] Rado : they rather lose their business
[2016-08-10 14:52:03] Rado : greed is very strong
[2016-08-10 14:53:44] nip : new risk limit is very low
[2016-08-10 14:54:02] Rado : nip: do you trade more than that?
[2016-08-10 14:54:19] nip : Rado: i trade more than the old risk limit
[2016-08-10 14:54:56] Rado : nip: in one trade or as total position?
[2016-08-10 14:55:40] lockhedge : they published the TOS for their $70m "tokens" 2 hrs before they are opening the market. they give you no possibility to let them check by a lawyer...
[2016-08-10 14:57:21] icepick007 : how do i set up 2fa
[2016-08-10 14:58:08] icepick007 : figured
[2016-08-10 15:17:55] aethlios : finex ticker says bfxusd 0.80 last trade
[2016-08-10 15:19:50] germanjew : yes, and a 24h volume of 1
[2016-08-10 15:22:07] Rado : aethlios: where do you see this?
[2016-08-10 15:22:23] Rado : oh Isee
[2016-08-10 15:22:30] aethlios : Rado: in my finex account, at the top has tha last price for each asset
[2016-08-10 15:22:36] Rado : saw it as well
[2016-08-10 15:22:37] Rado : thanks
[2016-08-10 15:22:48] Rado : it's funny
[2016-08-10 15:23:08] Rado : you can't manipulate people to think it will trade at 0.80
[2016-08-10 15:23:22] aethlios : als bfxbtc says 0.002 which is above 1 usd
[2016-08-10 15:24:41] aethlios : finex btc will be much above hack price 604
[2016-08-10 15:28:21] rapidtrades : this is crazy illegal
[2016-08-10 15:29:35] rapidtrades : im touching their coin unlesss its 80 cents
[2016-08-10 15:29:46] rapidtrades : want to be able to sue the f*ckers
[2016-08-10 15:30:15] rapidtrades : what's my play? im almost completly in usd
[2016-08-10 15:30:33] rapidtrades : bitcoin will spike a platform will crash like always
[2016-08-10 15:30:51] rapidtrades : can't see myself getting out at good value
[2016-08-10 15:32:42] sleger : rapidtrades: withdraw usd immediately or send a buy order 5$ above price
[2016-08-10 15:33:38] rapidtrades : platform will crash man
[2016-08-10 15:33:43] Rado : rapidtrades: I would do the same as well. Buy BTC and withdraw
[2016-08-10 15:33:48] Rado : everyone will be doing this
[2016-08-10 15:33:53] Rado : that's the problem
[2016-08-10 15:34:10] Rado : I have BTC
[2016-08-10 15:34:17] Rado : so for me it's just withdraw
[2016-08-10 15:34:54] lockhedge : 1,000 btc ask order at 604.75 just came in https://tradeblock.com/markets/bfnx/xbt-usd/1m/
[2016-08-10 15:34:56] Rado : I am afraid a lot of BTC will be gone from Bitfinex and liquidity will be crazy low
[2016-08-10 15:35:14] Rado : lockhedge: how did they place the order
[2016-08-10 15:35:20] Rado : I can't
[2016-08-10 15:35:33] Rado : insider?
[2016-08-10 15:36:05] lockhedge : market makers very likely got the info hours ago, bought btc in china and are now selling at a premium
[2016-08-10 15:36:30] Rado : but the trading engine is not on yet
[2016-08-10 15:36:34] Rado : how can you place an order
[2016-08-10 15:36:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 452 @ 0.003149
[2016-08-10 15:36:52] rapidtrades : ask as in I can buy into that?
[2016-08-10 15:37:52] lockhedge : rapidtrades: yes, if it does get cancelled/filled before your order is processed
[2016-08-10 15:38:25] rapidtrades : i can't even transfer my shit from margin to exhcange
[2016-08-10 15:38:46] rapidtrades : what a scam man
[2016-08-10 15:38:58] rapidtrades : nvm done
[2016-08-10 15:39:23] lockhedge : *doesn't..
[2016-08-10 15:39:56] rapidtrades : exchange doesn't exist yet?
[2016-08-10 15:40:08] rapidtrades : redirects to me to credit
[2016-08-10 15:40:15] sleger : why would bitfinex sell btc?
[2016-08-10 15:40:25] Rado : rapidtrades: it's not enabled yet
[2016-08-10 15:40:33] lockhedge : Rado: did you try the api?
[2016-08-10 15:40:34] rapidtrades : sleger: get out ask qs later
[2016-08-10 15:40:38] Rado : I tried to transfer BFX from margin to exchange
[2016-08-10 15:40:41] Rado : didn't work
[2016-08-10 15:40:49] rapidtrades : i'll sue them itno the ground
[2016-08-10 15:40:51] Rado : I have BFX both in exchange and margin wallets
[2016-08-10 15:40:57] rapidtrades : Rado: worked for me but USD
[2016-08-10 15:41:01] rapidtrades : not their shitcoin
[2016-08-10 15:41:06] Rado : nice
[2016-08-10 15:41:22] rapidtrades : im not touching that unless i get 80-90%
[2016-08-10 15:41:29] Rado : rapidtrades: I just tried and it worked for BFX
[2016-08-10 15:41:32] Rado : so they enabled it
[2016-08-10 15:41:34] rapidtrades : easy sue
[2016-08-10 15:41:50] rapidtrades : ok lemme try maybe some idiot will bid at 0.80
[2016-08-10 15:41:59] Rado : rapidtrades: many people will be happy with anything over 50%
[2016-08-10 15:42:07] Rado : I think it will go down to 0.2 first
[2016-08-10 15:43:02] rapidtrades : Rado: not me...want to sue so bad
[2016-08-10 15:43:43] rapidtrades : why can't i see orderbook like u guys
[2016-08-10 15:43:48] Rado : rapidtrades: good luck
[2016-08-10 15:44:39] rapidtrades : THEY STILL HAVEN'T EMAILED ANTYHING
[2016-08-10 15:45:12] rapidtrades : guys they just stole 36% of everyone's money
[2016-08-10 15:45:26] rapidtrades : now they're allowed restart of their fakecoin without a single email
[2016-08-10 15:45:33] rapidtrades : this is planned
[2016-08-10 15:46:29] rapidtrades : 1k ask is nothing, it will get insta eaten by their whale friends...prolly why they put it there
[2016-08-10 15:47:06] lockhedge : rapidtrades: https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/book/BTCUSD
[2016-08-10 15:47:35] Rado : rapidtrades: when users sell BFX Bitfinex is off teh hook
[2016-08-10 15:47:38] Rado : I agree with you
[2016-08-10 15:47:44] Rado : they don't even have to return anything
[2016-08-10 15:48:52] rapidtrades : just a few hundred....we're dead
[2016-08-10 15:49:37] Rado : prepare for fireworks gentlemen
[2016-08-10 15:50:16] rapidtrades : there;s no way their site holds up
[2016-08-10 15:50:24] rapidtrades : they had problems under best of times
[2016-08-10 15:50:49] rapidtrades : insta crash...whales cashout u wait ur turn tomoorow normie
[2016-08-10 15:51:31] Rado : I know
[2016-08-10 15:51:32] Rado : sad
[2016-08-10 15:52:01] rapidtrades : if i can't get out now im filing a police report and calling their shit bank
[2016-08-10 15:52:22] rapidtrades : also looking to pool resourses for class action lawsuit
[2016-08-10 15:52:28] OVS : same rapidtrades
[2016-08-10 15:53:04] Rado : by the way
[2016-08-10 15:53:12] OVS : there's already trades filling up the orderbook for BFX at $.027
[2016-08-10 15:53:15] rapidtrades : also everything will be on manul withdrawal even bitcoins...so we'll be waiting hrs at best
[2016-08-10 15:53:16] Rado : how are BTC withdrawals going to happen?
[2016-08-10 15:53:18] OVS : $0.27
[2016-08-10 15:53:23] aethlios : rapidtrades: this is crypto, no fiat world lawers
[2016-08-10 15:53:24] Rado : are they still using BitGo?
[2016-08-10 15:53:27] rapidtrades : great...scam written all over
[2016-08-10 15:53:31] macios15 : finex online
[2016-08-10 15:53:45] rapidtrades : not for me
[2016-08-10 15:53:49] j8 : i just bought 1 coin
[2016-08-10 15:53:50] lockhedge : highest BFXBTC bid 0.000201 https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/book/BFXBTC
[2016-08-10 15:53:59] j8 : at 579
[2016-08-10 15:54:05] Rado : wow
[2016-08-10 15:54:13] Rado : over API j8?
[2016-08-10 15:54:15] rapidtrades : im still redirected at cerdit?
[2016-08-10 15:54:17] sleger : j8: via api ?
[2016-08-10 15:54:23] lockhedge : BFXUSD 0.50011 https://api.bitfinex.com/v1/book/BFXUSD
[2016-08-10 15:54:25] j8 : nope on the site
[2016-08-10 15:54:31] rapidtrades : how...
[2016-08-10 15:54:34] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-08-10 15:54:38] j8 : clicked exchange
[2016-08-10 15:54:55] Rado : j8: are you in the US?
[2016-08-10 15:54:56] OVS : insiders...
[2016-08-10 15:55:03] j8 : no @Rado
[2016-08-10 15:55:14] OVS : the site is up but trading is not active yet
[2016-08-10 15:55:16] Rado : interesting
[2016-08-10 15:55:18] OVS : 5 more min
[2016-08-10 15:55:19] Rado : I can't either
[2016-08-10 15:55:30] BitMEX_Sam : their book is moving
[2016-08-10 15:55:37] BitMEX_Sam : http://i.imgur.com/ZUmxxmk.jpg
[2016-08-10 15:56:06] rapidtrades : got can't place new orders
[2016-08-10 15:56:31] rapidtrades : well smone can
[2016-08-10 15:56:34] sleger : i cant even see the books, and i tried to logout log back in
[2016-08-10 15:56:53] lockhedge : j8 was first 17:54:18 604.72 1.00 17:54:18 604.74 3.00 17:54:14 592.96 0.10 17:54:14 598.96 0.10 17:53:10 579.00 1.00
[2016-08-10 15:57:00] BitMEX_Sam : Trading already happening
[2016-08-10 15:57:01] j8 : yes :)
[2016-08-10 15:57:02] BitMEX_Sam : Insiders or a bug
[2016-08-10 15:57:13] j8 : well i'm not an insider. so bug it is
[2016-08-10 15:57:22] germanjew : trading has begun it seems
[2016-08-10 15:57:26] BitMEX_Sam : Ah Just scrolled up. Lol.... oh man
[2016-08-10 15:57:48] OVS : i refreshed the page a bunch and i got the order book but it wouldn't let me place a trade. now its not responding
[2016-08-10 15:58:01] cenkzu : i managed to buy some btcs at 604
[2016-08-10 15:58:16] rapidtrades : getting a cricle here
[2016-08-10 15:58:30] rapidtrades : circle clicked few mins ago
[2016-08-10 15:58:38] macios15 : still not working
[2016-08-10 15:58:53] BitMEX_Sam : Kind of unreal that they turned on the engine before live trading was supposed to happen
[2016-08-10 15:58:58] BitMEX_Sam : Do they not have control over their own matching engine?
[2016-08-10 15:59:13] rapidtrades : scam
[2016-08-10 15:59:14] germanjew : Can't access exchange anymore
[2016-08-10 15:59:18] rapidtrades : me too
[2016-08-10 15:59:24] habibi : Unbelieveble lol
[2016-08-10 15:59:26] germanjew : Exchange tab*
[2016-08-10 15:59:27] rapidtrades : whales got out rip
[2016-08-10 15:59:27] habibi : hehehehe :D
[2016-08-10 16:00:15] lockhedge : already 500 btc traded...
[2016-08-10 16:00:34] rapidtrades : i still cant place new orders
[2016-08-10 16:00:42] Rado : by the way you can sue them for that as well
[2016-08-10 16:00:46] sleger : Notice: Withdrawals for this currency are currently unavailable. ........
[2016-08-10 16:00:48] Rado : if you can prove it
[2016-08-10 16:01:22] rapidtrades : wtf is going on...i can't place new orders
[2016-08-10 16:01:24] Rado : everything still disabled for me
[2016-08-10 16:01:40] rapidtrades : wow royal scam
[2016-08-10 16:01:42] Rado : exchange working now
[2016-08-10 16:01:49] HackedOnBFX : Can someone explain funding rate/
[2016-08-10 16:01:54] HackedOnBFX : I don't understand still
[2016-08-10 16:02:04] lockhedge : 612, 2000 btc traded, book is empty
[2016-08-10 16:02:17] BitMEX_Sam : HackedOnBFX: It's the mechanism by which the swap remains anchored at spot
[2016-08-10 16:02:43] macios15 : when kaiko add back bitfinex?
[2016-08-10 16:02:53] rapidtrades : dude i still can' place orders what is this scam
[2016-08-10 16:02:59] Tetsuo : macios15: plz stop trolling
[2016-08-10 16:03:12] rapidtrades : Rado: did u buy
[2016-08-10 16:03:32] Tetsuo : are deposits open @ bitfinex?
[2016-08-10 16:03:33] OVS : Bought ETH/USD but cannot withdraw
[2016-08-10 16:03:39] Rado : rapidtrades: I have BTC
[2016-08-10 16:03:43] Rado : not USD
[2016-08-10 16:04:29] Rado : I told you 0.20 for BFX
[2016-08-10 16:04:57] Rado : withdrawals still disabled for BTC
[2016-08-10 16:04:59] Rado : anyone?
[2016-08-10 16:05:49] Rado : wow
[2016-08-10 16:05:54] Tetsuo : who needs to withdrawl when you can trade
[2016-08-10 16:05:59] Rado : BFXBTC selling for 0.12 USD
[2016-08-10 16:06:07] OVS : all withdrawls still disabled
[2016-08-10 16:06:08] Tetsuo : overpriced
[2016-08-10 16:06:30] germanjew : It seems like you will still be able to sue: "The token has been issued to you without reduction of or other release or waiver of any claims you may have against the Bitfinex Group. "
[2016-08-10 16:06:40] BitMEX_Sam : Really good BFX scalp here
[2016-08-10 16:06:56] rapidtrades : this is some major bs we told them this will cause a spike in BTC
[2016-08-10 16:07:01] rapidtrades : USD holders double raped
[2016-08-10 16:07:34] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: agreed
[2016-08-10 16:07:38] Rado : I am not buying
[2016-08-10 16:07:42] Rado : I have enough
[2016-08-10 16:07:57] Rado : but people that want to speculate can buy at 0.12 sell at 0.3
[2016-08-10 16:09:29] OVS : the announcement said withdraws to come after trading is re-enabled so now we wait to see if they ever re-enable withdraws
[2016-08-10 16:11:05] rapidtrades : says account on hold until aug 13 wtf
[2016-08-10 16:11:35] Rado : I did a BTC withdrawal
[2016-08-10 16:11:44] Rado : no email yet to confirm it
[2016-08-10 16:12:09] sleger : rapidtrades: got the same
[2016-08-10 16:12:10] Skippy882 : They disabled withdraws right?
[2016-08-10 16:12:28] Skippy882 : For now
[2016-08-10 16:12:29] sleger : i just texted zane
[2016-08-10 16:13:42] rapidtrades : texted how
[2016-08-10 16:13:47] zanza : http://imgur.com/a/R8Ttb
[2016-08-10 16:14:18] rapidtrades : HOW DID U TEXT
[2016-08-10 16:14:45] OVS : post his number!
[2016-08-10 16:15:01] sleger : rapidtrades: using my iphone
[2016-08-10 16:15:10] sleger : withdrawal is going thru
[2016-08-10 16:15:33] rapidtrades : what's his number
[2016-08-10 16:15:52] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/user/bitfinex_user/ pm me ehere
[2016-08-10 16:15:54] habibi : rapidtrades: stop spamming
[2016-08-10 16:15:57] Rado : I was able to approve the BTC withdrawal
[2016-08-10 16:15:59] muirtastic : I got a Bitfinex withdrawal request through
[2016-08-10 16:16:03] Rado : got the email after 10 min
[2016-08-10 16:16:05] muirtastic : Now we'll see if I ever get the BTC
[2016-08-10 16:16:16] zanza : http://www.zdnet.com/article/worlds-largest-ssd-revealed-as-seagate-unveils-60tb-monster/
[2016-08-10 16:16:51] sleger : rapidtrades: ping him on reddit
[2016-08-10 16:17:19] Rado : BFX up to 0.0006 now
[2016-08-10 16:17:27] Rado : I am selling at 0.001
[2016-08-10 16:17:30] Rado : lol
[2016-08-10 16:17:33] Rado : if it gets there
[2016-08-10 16:18:04] lockhedge : "Let me see if we can lift the 5 day holds." https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wng2j/site_relaunch_bitfinex_blog/d6bnr0f
[2016-08-10 16:18:21] zanza : .001 is basically $1
[2016-08-10 16:18:27] zanza : you will never get close to that
[2016-08-10 16:18:46] rapidtrades : sleger: done already
[2016-08-10 16:18:51] justinlooking : 0.0016 is $1 ?
[2016-08-10 16:19:16] OVS : I was able to submit a withdraw request
[2016-08-10 16:19:45] zanza : .001 is 60 cents
[2016-08-10 16:19:50] zanza : $.6
[2016-08-10 16:20:04] zanza : i would take .0005
[2016-08-10 16:20:10] zanza : $.3
[2016-08-10 16:20:17] justinlooking : bfxusd above that now
[2016-08-10 16:20:33] justinlooking : 0.33/0.34
[2016-08-10 16:21:41] Rado : zanza: you can sell for more than that now
[2016-08-10 16:21:45] Rado : so feel free to sell
[2016-08-10 16:21:51] zanza : take it
[2016-08-10 16:21:51] Rado : I am not selling at 0.3
[2016-08-10 16:21:52] zanza : and run
[2016-08-10 16:22:04] Rado : I want at least 0.5
[2016-08-10 16:22:15] zanza : you may get 0
[2016-08-10 16:22:31] rapidtrades : or he may get all in a suit
[2016-08-10 16:22:38] zanza : in 4 years
[2016-08-10 16:23:50] zanza : some people are getting good withdrawals
[2016-08-10 16:23:56] zanza : some have 3 day lockout
[2016-08-10 16:23:57] rapidtrades : im stll getting a circle
[2016-08-10 16:24:28] OVS : zanza that 3 day lockout is supposed to be overridden since they are processing all withdraws manually, ignore that message
[2016-08-10 16:24:44] Rado : Processing 10.51313227 BTC
[2016-08-10 16:25:24] rapidtrades : now ait for email
[2016-08-10 16:26:06] zanza : what is more liquid, Stamp or Kraken ?
[2016-08-10 16:26:39] lockhedge : for USD stamp, for EUR kraken
[2016-08-10 16:26:49] zanza : thansk
[2016-08-10 16:27:00] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: why is risk value so different than value in open positions ?
[2016-08-10 16:27:23] zanza : so basically, price now = same price before Finex hack
[2016-08-10 16:27:35] BitMEX_Sam : Should be the same sleger
[2016-08-10 16:27:55] rapidtrades : i took an extra 2.5% hit cos i had to buy their overpriced coins...better then nothing if i can get out
[2016-08-10 16:27:56] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: "Risk Limit150.1368 / 150 XBT " vs "XBTU16 18671 119.2610 XBT"
[2016-08-10 16:28:27] j8 : something about it being based on the rebalance price? i asked about that before
[2016-08-10 16:28:40] j8 : it didn't make a lot of sense to me
[2016-08-10 16:29:07] BitMEX_Sam : Hang on let me have Wally check
[2016-08-10 16:29:25] j8 : (or maybe you need to cancel orders for it to be roughly the same @sleger)
[2016-08-10 16:30:03] Rado : big trades on BFXBTC
[2016-08-10 16:30:29] rapidtrades : ok approved now we wait
[2016-08-10 16:30:35] Rado : I think Bitfinex might be buying at 0.3
[2016-08-10 16:30:51] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: j8 is right
[2016-08-10 16:30:58] sleger : i canceled all open orders and they match
[2016-08-10 16:31:02] BitMEX_Sam : :+1:
[2016-08-10 16:31:06] Rado : rapidtrades: mine still processing
[2016-08-10 16:31:08] rapidtrades : match what
[2016-08-10 16:31:11] BitMEX_Wally : The risk value is the current gross value of the position (at the mark price) plus the gross value of open orders that increase the position
[2016-08-10 16:31:33] muirtastic : I dumped all my BFX at .032 and just going to try to get the F8ck out
[2016-08-10 16:32:07] rapidtrades : Rado: mine says user aproved, they've yet to let it through
[2016-08-10 16:32:17] rapidtrades : muirtastic: idiot let's sue
[2016-08-10 16:32:19] Rado : you were behind me
[2016-08-10 16:32:24] Rado : it will happen in a few min
[2016-08-10 16:32:39] rapidtrades : well ur gone....rest of u don't sell ur 'tokens'
[2016-08-10 16:32:42] rapidtrades : we can sue
[2016-08-10 16:32:44] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: did that change from a week or two ago?
[2016-08-10 16:33:11] BitMEX_Sam : j8: The displayed value was previously using an incorrect (but similar) value
[2016-08-10 16:33:27] rapidtrades : did anyone receive btc lol
[2016-08-10 16:33:35] rapidtrades : or are we just trading fake coins again
[2016-08-10 16:33:38] Rado : rapidtrades: I did not sell BFX
[2016-08-10 16:33:43] nip : BitMEX_Sam: I think the new risk limits are too low
[2016-08-10 16:33:43] Rado : I only got my BTC
[2016-08-10 16:33:48] rapidtrades : no i mean bitcoin withdarwal
[2016-08-10 16:34:35] HackedOnBFX : so if there is a premium on a contract compared to spot and you buy, you receive the funding rate?
[2016-08-10 16:34:36] rapidtrades : i can prolly sue them for the extra 2.5% loss too
[2016-08-10 16:35:00] habibi : sue them now rapidtrades and stop crying
[2016-08-10 16:35:28] rapidtrades : it's not crying u lil bitch
[2016-08-10 16:35:29] OVS : rapidtrades: withdraws are being processed manually, it may take a while depending on your spot in line.
[2016-08-10 16:35:38] rapidtrades : i know, dude
[2016-08-10 16:38:18] rapidtrades : why am i always last in line,,,,,
[2016-08-10 16:38:31] sleger : Rado: good call on 0.3 so far
[2016-08-10 16:39:01] sleger : rapidtrades: your slow internet and 10y old laptop
[2016-08-10 16:39:30] habibi : sleger: whats ur futher steps at finex case as a bigger guy?
[2016-08-10 16:39:36] Rado : thanks sleger
[2016-08-10 16:40:37] sleger : habibi: I requested a withdrawal of all the money I had in the account prior to the hack
[2016-08-10 16:41:15] rapidtrades : sleger: teach me
[2016-08-10 16:41:22] rapidtrades : as in emailed them or what
[2016-08-10 16:41:42] sleger : you need a lawyer as each case is different
[2016-08-10 16:42:07] sleger : if you cant afford one then just google some template letter and email them that
[2016-08-10 16:42:35] rapidtrades : dude...im not getting a lawyer for 5k,,,that's why i was calling to do a CLA
[2016-08-10 16:42:38] rapidtrades : CAL
[2016-08-10 16:43:11] sleger : class action doesnt work in all countries, its pretty much a us thing
[2016-08-10 16:43:17] rapidtrades : ok mine now says processing but i didn't get the usual email bla bla it may take 5 mins
[2016-08-10 16:43:39] rapidtrades : well whatever its called in different countries we will do it
[2016-08-10 16:43:45] Rado : rapidtrades: lets hope our withdrawals process fine
[2016-08-10 16:43:47] habibi : rapidtrades: ur haircut is smaller then costs of bitmex servers to process ur spam on chat
[2016-08-10 16:43:50] rapidtrades : it's not a novel concept
[2016-08-10 16:43:55] Rado : I think they will have a big problem with liquidity soon
[2016-08-10 16:44:02] rapidtrades : yeah they will
[2016-08-10 16:44:24] rapidtrades : DID U GUYS GET THAT USUAL EMAIL IT MAY BE 5 MINS OR FEW HOURS ETC