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[2016-08-08 19:00:07] Rado : that's old news
[2016-08-08 19:05:20] wotan : what you guys think about kim dotcoms bitcache?
[2016-08-08 19:05:50] wotan : he says bitcoin 2000 dollar in 2017:)
[2016-08-08 19:05:54] jesperf : seriously cool idea
[2016-08-08 19:06:11] wotan : i think too
[2016-08-08 19:06:24] jesperf : that's a pretty radical estimate though :) we're going up all right, but not so fast
[2016-08-08 19:07:47] wotan : yes lets see no one can say it
[2016-08-08 19:15:28] Rado : I love the idea of micro transactions using bitcoin, but not for file uploads
[2016-08-08 19:15:37] Rado : there are so many industries that can benefit from this
[2016-08-08 19:15:46] Rado : he is doing it fo rfile uploads because that is his business
[2016-08-08 19:15:53] Rado : I personally think it wil not work there
[2016-08-08 19:16:25] Rado : The reason he had so many users is because everything was free and illegal
[2016-08-08 19:16:32] Rado : make it paid and no one will touch it
[2016-08-08 19:16:53] Rado : unless he makes deals with the content providers like Netflix is doing
[2016-08-08 19:17:12] jesperf : it's "paid" but the transactions are so small that they will feel like free
[2016-08-08 19:17:16] Rado : I would buy a movie in a hearth beat if it cost me 0.50 to watch it
[2016-08-08 19:17:26] jesperf : no, of course he's catering to the pirates and porn junkies
[2016-08-08 19:17:36] Rado : jesperf: users will not setup Bitcoin wallets so they can download a file
[2016-08-08 19:17:55] Rado : and they need to put BTC in their wallet
[2016-08-08 19:18:08] Rado : I don't know, fo rme something is missing
[2016-08-08 19:18:11] jesperf : i think a lot of pirates and pornies already have btc
[2016-08-08 19:18:36] Rado : but he is expecting this to be a killer service with million of users
[2016-08-08 20:06:49] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4wpyrn/bfx_socialised_loss_confirmed_by_uk_police_cyber/
[2016-08-08 20:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.003243
[2016-08-08 20:38:33] HackedOnBFX : lol i like how the bot is named rekt
[2016-08-08 20:42:00] rapidtrades : sup homies
[2016-08-08 20:42:17] justinlooking : o/
[2016-08-08 20:43:35] rapidtrades : verified americans will leave with USD 0 losses
[2016-08-08 20:43:39] rapidtrades : isn't that sweet
[2016-08-08 20:43:52] habibi : and u are one of them?
[2016-08-08 20:43:55] rapidtrades : whales will get shares
[2016-08-08 20:44:11] rapidtrades : while the rest of us plebians GET F*cKED IN THE ASS
[2016-08-08 20:44:33] habibi : shares? u mean bfx coin?
[2016-08-08 20:44:54] rapidtrades : nope actual shares
[2016-08-08 20:45:16] habibi : The BFX tokens will remain outstanding until redeemed in full by Bitfinex or possibly exchanged—upon the creditor’s request and Bitfinex’s acceptance—for shares of iFinex Inc.
[2016-08-08 20:45:22] habibi : thats ur talk about?
[2016-08-08 20:45:46] rapidtrades : nope..zane said in interview that they're giving whales shares
[2016-08-08 20:46:16] rapidtrades : notice the working you have to 'ask' and they have to 'accept'
[2016-08-08 20:46:21] rapidtrades : wording
[2016-08-08 20:47:17] HackedOnBFX : im requesting shares
[2016-08-08 20:47:24] rapidtrades : Just like in Nazi Germany, the rich jews go to America while the poor get gaassed
[2016-08-08 20:47:33] rapidtrades : bitfinex=literally nazis
[2016-08-08 20:49:23] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4wocww/daily_discussion_monday_august_08_2016/d69c8p6
[2016-08-08 20:49:33] rapidtrades : smone post this to our subreddit
[2016-08-08 20:49:41] rapidtrades : im logged under diff account atm
[2016-08-08 20:50:16] HackedOnBFX : we have a subreddit?
[2016-08-08 20:50:23] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 20:50:48] habibi : isnt it coz insurance from the bank ?
[2016-08-08 20:50:57] habibi : this one particular ?
[2016-08-08 20:51:54] rapidtrades : don't know but it may mean bigger cut for rest of us
[2016-08-08 20:52:00] rapidtrades : plus shows precedent
[2016-08-08 20:52:23] habibi : if its coz of insurance then no, it doesnt matter for u
[2016-08-08 20:52:38] rapidtrades : I wonder if we can subpoena their bank to send our money directly
[2016-08-08 20:52:47] rapidtrades : it's supposed to be segregated right
[2016-08-08 20:53:29] rapidtrades : also notice how they cut off access to ur bitgo reports
[2016-08-08 20:53:47] rapidtrades : hiding their tracks so u can't see if u individually got hacked
[2016-08-08 20:54:13] rapidtrades : so now everyone thinks well maybe I got hacked so better keep my mouth shut or i could lose everything not just 36%
[2016-08-08 20:54:20] habibi : hiding their tracks :D they changing blockchain data right :D?
[2016-08-08 20:54:30] rapidtrades : also they deleted their TOS
[2016-08-08 20:55:04] rapidtrades : habibi: i checked mine out, nothing moved...problem is the 3 addresses u see were (According to zane) part of much bigger wallet
[2016-08-08 20:55:40] rapidtrades : so u can't really tell just by the blockchain, cos u don't know what addresses to look up now without the bitgo reports
[2016-08-08 20:55:52] habibi : u will get them no worries
[2016-08-08 20:56:02] rapidtrades : i know i will
[2016-08-08 20:56:17] danilo : etc?
[2016-08-08 21:00:47] HackedOnBFX : danilo: etc the best thing thats happened to me since btc went to 775
[2016-08-08 21:01:15] HackedOnBFX : You playin the short or long game?
[2016-08-08 21:03:33] rapidtrades : how do ppl attach photos on steemit?
[2016-08-08 21:10:26] lockhedge : Gatecoin re-launched post hack with an instrument called ETD (ETH debt) https://blog.gatecoin.com/update-on-re-launch-of-trading-platform-aug-5-804754f255aa#.l706wiove
[2016-08-08 21:10:47] lockhedge : "On re-launch, all ETH holders affected by the hack will be eligible to withdraw 10% of their funds in ETH. The remaining 90% in ETH balances will be listed as ETD (ETH debt) on client balances."
[2016-08-08 21:11:39] rapidtrades : interesting
[2016-08-08 21:12:14] rapidtrades : these smaller exchanges can get away with a lot cos crypto ppl are dumb as bricks
[2016-08-08 21:17:36] rapidtrades : bitfinex must know that ppl will sue....so what's their play here?
[2016-08-08 21:17:55] habibi : they werent aware that u will sue them as well
[2016-08-08 21:17:59] rapidtrades : to throw their hands in the air and say we tried by evil gubernant came in to stop us
[2016-08-08 21:18:11] rapidtrades : habibi: oh don't worry, im working on my email
[2016-08-08 21:18:27] habibi : email...sounds scary
[2016-08-08 21:18:43] elmorte : you know you gotta use fax or gtfo
[2016-08-08 21:18:47] rapidtrades : how else are u gonna contact a company in HK
[2016-08-08 21:19:11] habibi : i heard u were talking sth about laywers and stuff like that? u dont want to do it anymore?
[2016-08-08 21:19:15] elmorte : Make sure you request or a read receipt
[2016-08-08 21:19:26] rapidtrades : habibi: u don't go nuclear in step 1 man
[2016-08-08 21:19:36] rapidtrades : elmorte: can u do that on google
[2016-08-08 21:20:44] elmorte : only for Google Apps for Work, Education, and Government customers. They are not available in personal Gmail accounts :/
[2016-08-08 21:20:53] rapidtrades : greeeat
[2016-08-08 21:21:02] rapidtrades : so how much does that cost
[2016-08-08 21:21:17] elmorte : lol...
[2016-08-08 21:21:30] habibi : btw pos page link rapid?
[2016-08-08 21:21:47] rapidtrades : WAT
[2016-08-08 21:21:52] rapidtrades : HAJIBI WHAT DO U WANT
[2016-08-08 21:21:59] rapidtrades : I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR SHIT
[2016-08-08 21:22:03] habibi : tos*
[2016-08-08 21:22:09] rapidtrades : yeah gone
[2016-08-08 21:22:20] rapidtrades : did u find it
[2016-08-08 21:22:22] elmorte : you can if you send via outlook
[2016-08-08 21:22:28] Rado : for the first time I see OKCoin USD higher than OKCoin China
[2016-08-08 21:22:29] elmorte : even if it's gmaoil
[2016-08-08 21:22:29] habibi : yea could u give me link to it? even its gone?
[2016-08-08 21:22:32] rapidtrades : post it on our sub
[2016-08-08 21:22:44] rapidtrades : no i saw it on reddit
[2016-08-08 21:23:21] habibi : did u verified it?
[2016-08-08 21:23:35] elmorte : fckin finex...lost more to those cnts then I did being long here for over a week...
[2016-08-08 21:23:59] elmorte : and 90% of my account was in ETH
[2016-08-08 21:24:20] rapidtrades : https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-08 21:24:33] habibi : oh its working somehow
[2016-08-08 21:24:52] elmorte : should check if it's the same version
[2016-08-08 21:25:02] elmorte : them cnt be sly...
[2016-08-08 21:25:05] elmorte : cnts*
[2016-08-08 21:25:24] habibi : rapidtrades: u talk about how dumb people are in crypto and u didnt even check simple thing u read on reddit.
[2016-08-08 21:25:45] elmorte : all caps incoming...
[2016-08-08 21:27:57] justinlooking : https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-08 21:28:54] rapidtrades : there's no date
[2016-08-08 21:29:44] justinlooking : u wot m8
[2016-08-08 21:47:08] ayy_lmao : lo
[2016-08-08 21:47:09] ayy_lmao : l
[2016-08-08 21:54:01] Rado : I haven't seen price of BTC so close for all exchanges
[2016-08-08 21:54:17] Rado : seems like all of them are in a waiting mode to see what happens with Bitfinex
[2016-08-08 21:56:01] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YryXz6vY-BTC-going-to-around-540-for-a-retest-of-support/
[2016-08-08 21:56:12] Rado : I am trading this setup
[2016-08-08 22:22:14] HackedOnBFX : Rado: good luck bro
[2016-08-08 22:24:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 811 @ 0.01881
[2016-08-08 22:37:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 550 @ 0.01884
[2016-08-08 22:59:09] Tetsuo : Go ETH go
[2016-08-08 22:59:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 3001 @ 0.01911
[2016-08-08 23:00:12] Mm bot : Tetsuo: patience paid off, go ETH
[2016-08-08 23:07:07] jesperf : dayum boi
[2016-08-09 00:10:01] imansyu : Hello all
[2016-08-09 00:10:14] imansyu : What about ETC trend?
[2016-08-09 00:10:20] imansyu : Buy or sell
[2016-08-09 00:12:07] ixess : everyone buying etc
[2016-08-09 00:13:33] ixess : i think etc will go to .0042 or .0043 and then down
[2016-08-09 00:18:07] imansyu : ixess: thank for your information sir
[2016-08-09 00:30:23] Rado : I think ETC is going to anywhere from 0.007 to 0.01
[2016-08-09 00:51:38] b020714 : problems with the site?
[2016-08-09 00:59:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 300 @ 0.01925
[2016-08-09 01:25:10] BitMEX_Sam : b020714: Not seeing any issues, what problems are you experiencing?
[2016-08-09 01:25:50] BitMEX_Sam : Crypto Trader Digest almost finished, you guys will like this one.
[2016-08-09 01:26:18] donkey : BitMEX_Sam: mobile website is not working
[2016-08-09 01:26:35] BitMEX_Sam : Phone/browser?
[2016-08-09 01:27:25] donkey : samsung s7 default browser
[2016-08-09 01:27:44] donkey : after login it shows bitmex logo nothing else
[2016-08-09 01:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm not seeing this at all - will try the default browser
[2016-08-09 01:28:05] BitMEX_Sam : Please try Chrome/Firefox for mobile
[2016-08-09 01:28:09] donkey : ok
[2016-08-09 01:34:17] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: Ya'll need a proofreader? I'm pretty good at spotting typos and I always find a bunch lurking in the digests
[2016-08-09 01:34:36] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Yeah there are sometimes a few. We have more eyes on this one
[2016-08-09 01:35:02] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the offer but we're just putting more guys internally on it to make sure it's spic&span
[2016-08-09 01:35:28] jesperf : Good :)
[2016-08-09 01:51:13] jesperf : ugh, reddit is having problems.. might as well sleep then :(
[2016-08-09 02:15:58] BitMEX_Sam : donkey: Did that fix the issue for you?
[2016-08-09 02:26:53] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: good digest! I found only one misplaced apostrophe ;)
[2016-08-09 02:27:06] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Haha then you're just as much of a grammar nazi as I am.
[2016-08-09 02:27:29] jesperf : I'm a coder too. I think that goes with the job.
[2016-08-09 02:31:29] BitMEX_Sam : It might. Everything in its right place
[2016-08-09 02:34:35] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: you were right about the Crypto Trader Digest :)
[2016-08-09 02:51:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9375 @ 580.11
[2016-08-09 02:52:39] Chimpindeed : whats this now?
[2016-08-09 02:53:18] habibi : Well, we know Bitfinex isn't helping out. Zane Tackett, Bitfinex’s community manager and spokesperson, confirmed that Bitfinex itself will not contribute one Satoshi or USD to helping to reduce the tax. Scandalous. When did he actually said that?
[2016-08-09 02:55:08] donkey : whaleclub teamspeak
[2016-08-09 02:55:24] habibi : not where, when :)
[2016-08-09 02:55:35] donkey : sorry
[2016-08-09 02:55:36] habibi : exact moment of recording :)
[2016-08-09 02:55:46] donkey : dont rmember
[2016-08-09 02:55:47] habibi : and not whaleclub, whalepool. names are confusing
[2016-08-09 02:55:59] donkey : ;)
[2016-08-09 03:04:52] lockhedge : habibi: that's the recording, but zane never confirmed directly https://soundcloud.com/user-173875295/bitfinex-itself-will-not-be-taking-a-haircut it seems to be clear that the 36% loss/hair-cut only includes customer's assets, not bitfinex's assets e.g. shares of blockstream, shapeshift and other companies
[2016-08-09 03:05:55] rapidtrades : that's unacceptable
[2016-08-09 03:06:21] habibi : lockhedge: i was there when he was giving anserws, just wanna literally see where he said words that crypto digest mentioned coz i cant find this
[2016-08-09 03:09:39] rapidtrades : 'Bitfinex is afraid of US-pound-me-in-the-ass prison, or a company-ending-fine from one of the many alphabet letter agencies in the US. The most likely scenario that a large amount of US customer funds were not taxed so that the fiction of segregated accounts could be preserved'
[2016-08-09 03:12:02] lockhedge : habibi: he said: "contributing money" means "trying to bring new shareholders on board" 16:15
[2016-08-09 03:13:41] rapidtrades : idiots over at r/bitcoin are already downvoting the bitmex article
[2016-08-09 03:14:11] habibi : i dont see the stuff mentioned in article still
[2016-08-09 03:15:02] rapidtrades : habiji noone cares about u being a dumbass
[2016-08-09 03:15:17] Rado : lol
[2016-08-09 03:15:23] rapidtrades : get smart or acquire reading comprehension
[2016-08-09 03:15:35] rapidtrades : or listening...whatever
[2016-08-09 03:15:52] habibi : lockhedge: he actually said that would indicate that they are taking a loss
[2016-08-09 03:16:05] habibi : rapidtrades: i showed u before how smart u are. please stop talking
[2016-08-09 03:16:09] rapidtrades : did they even email ppl about the 'haircut'
[2016-08-09 03:16:15] rapidtrades : habibi: FU AHOLE
[2016-08-09 03:16:51] rapidtrades : cos i haven't gotten anything offcial since this hack started
[2016-08-09 03:17:11] rapidtrades : super fishy...makes it possible to just withdraw the plan since 'it wasn't official'
[2016-08-09 03:17:19] rapidtrades : looks like they don't want any paper trail
[2016-08-09 03:20:32] habibi : and at the end "we can't share details on what exacly we contributing, it will come up in followings days" yea that means exacly like they not putting a single satoshi/dollar into it. lockhedge
[2016-08-09 03:21:24] rapidtrades : what's the name of their taiwan bank
[2016-08-09 03:22:30] rapidtrades : is it still this? Cathay United Bank
[2016-08-09 03:22:34] rapidtrades : post is from 2014
[2016-08-09 03:25:19] lockhedge : habibi: yes, the naturally "have a loss" no revenue while they are down
[2016-08-09 03:25:49] habibi : thats the detail he couldnt share u think :)? or pure speculation?
[2016-08-09 03:25:53] rapidtrades : numbers don't add up
[2016-08-09 03:29:13] rapidtrades : so according that bitmex post...if the haircut was applied to all BTC it would've been 48%?
[2016-08-09 03:29:38] BitMEX_Sam : That's our estimate with the info we have
[2016-08-09 03:32:42] rapidtrades : they floated the 63% PHIL figure so BTC holders got spooked and are now downvoting everything that may go against them getting only 36% cut
[2016-08-09 03:33:38] zanza : Wow Arthur just roasted Bitfinex pretty bad
[2016-08-09 03:33:56] rapidtrades : it's Mr Chang...
[2016-08-09 03:34:09] rapidtrades : Casper Chang :)
[2016-08-09 03:34:16] zanza : i dont get it ?
[2016-08-09 03:34:53] rapidtrades : that's the name stated on the blog
[2016-08-09 03:36:07] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah that's our translator who also posts the articles.
[2016-08-09 03:36:09] BitMEX_Sam : I'm having him change the author.
[2016-08-09 03:36:51] rapidtrades : no it's fine :)
[2016-08-09 03:37:42] habibi : Used to be Arthur on english version but they changed it after mad fyrrstiken kicked in
[2016-08-09 03:38:00] rapidtrades : little zane wen't to bed early today after ppl starting asking where to complain/sue
[2016-08-09 03:38:16] rapidtrades : lemme check my f email
[2016-08-09 03:39:11] rapidtrades : there smth srsly wrong with the way this is handled
[2016-08-09 03:39:45] zanza : CEO needs to grow some balls and make an AMA
[2016-08-09 03:39:50] rapidtrades : i'm guessing we're just at the tip of the iceberg...prolly a lot more here like major trading on their own platform etc
[2016-08-09 03:40:04] rapidtrades : were they legally allowed to even lend ?
[2016-08-09 03:40:14] rapidtrades : on their own platform?
[2016-08-09 03:40:14] zanza : did willybot ever release the expose to shut this site down ?
[2016-08-09 03:40:23] rapidtrades : no he's an idiot
[2016-08-09 03:40:48] zanza : This site could be closed permanently
[2016-08-09 03:40:52] zanza : once he releases his blog
[2016-08-09 03:41:37] rapidtrades : i know we better withdraw all
[2016-08-09 03:42:37] Rado : zanza: are you serious?
[2016-08-09 03:42:44] rapidtrades : sleger made a big fuss about bitmex changing terms mid-air but he's nowhere to be found for this bitfinex fiasco
[2016-08-09 03:42:46] Rado : he was a sore loser
[2016-08-09 03:42:52] rapidtrades : this is pure pheft
[2016-08-09 03:42:55] rapidtrades : theft
[2016-08-09 03:43:26] rapidtrades : everyone only looking after this own ass i guess
[2016-08-09 03:44:06] Rado : rapidtrades: where is sledger trading?
[2016-08-09 03:45:21] rapidtrades : there is nothing in my email from bitmex since aug2 aside from their required password change
[2016-08-09 03:45:58] rapidtrades : so 1. they emailed noone about the hack 2. they emailed noone about stealing 36%
[2016-08-09 03:46:08] rapidtrades : this plan smells like BS more and more
[2016-08-09 03:47:31] zanza : its possible Sleger moved all in to Bitfinex
[2016-08-09 03:47:45] zanza : and got hit really bad with this latest scam
[2016-08-09 03:48:10] zanza : some people just dont take trading losses well
[2016-08-09 03:48:17] zanza : and they probably shouldn't be trading then
[2016-08-09 03:48:54] lockhedge : was there any statement by the top executives or are they all hiding behind zane?
[2016-08-09 03:49:15] rapidtrades : tbf both of these events are not 'trading losses' per say @zanza
[2016-08-09 03:49:26] rapidtrades : more in the counter-party risk area
[2016-08-09 03:49:35] zanza : hiding lockhedge
[2016-08-09 03:49:44] rapidtrades : lockhedge: good question
[2016-08-09 03:49:48] zanza : The Finex CEO is a ghost, has 0 presence
[2016-08-09 03:50:06] rapidtrades : zane could be their fall guy or test rabbit
[2016-08-09 03:50:07] lockhedge : could you imagine if BitMEX got hacked, and Arthur, Wally and Sam would hide behind Greg?
[2016-08-09 03:50:33] zanza : they run cold storage signing, so they can't get hacked
[2016-08-09 03:50:39] zanza : they can only exit scam
[2016-08-09 03:51:26] zanza : Finex was pretty hack proof before, then they moved to hot storage , very suspicious
[2016-08-09 03:51:44] rapidtrades : hey im running reddit is fun but after I changed passes i can still login...is there a way to revoke access to my accounts
[2016-08-09 03:52:03] rapidtrades : cos lost one of my phones where i was login detils etc
[2016-08-09 03:52:47] zanza : u changed passes? what is taht
[2016-08-09 03:53:04] rapidtrades : passwords dummy
[2016-08-09 03:53:19] rapidtrades : but app still logs in...lemme try restart
[2016-08-09 03:54:19] zanza : uninstall the app
[2016-08-09 03:54:28] rapidtrades : nvm found it under preferences
[2016-08-09 03:54:41] rapidtrades : zanza: I CAN'T UNINSTALL THE APP ON MY LOST PHONE
[2016-08-09 03:54:56] rapidtrades : reading comprehension ppl
[2016-08-09 03:56:15] zanza : change your password on Reddit
[2016-08-09 03:56:31] zanza : also you can remove wipe your phone
[2016-08-09 03:56:37] zanza : remote wipe*
[2016-08-09 03:57:39] rapidtrades : yeah i can't its gone
[2016-08-09 03:58:01] rapidtrades : i should set that up on my other phone tho
[2016-08-09 03:58:42] zanza : i dont think a thief really cares about RIF app
[2016-08-09 03:59:02] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: Why wouldn't you add all exchanges to the Kiko index with different weight
[2016-08-09 03:59:24] Rado : GDAX, Kraken, BTCE etc
[2016-08-09 03:59:25] rapidtrades : zanza: well i think I changed everything important
[2016-08-09 03:59:35] Rado : doesn't it make the index better if it has more exchanges
[2016-08-09 03:59:38] Rado : ?
[2016-08-09 03:59:41] rapidtrades : Rado: harder to hedge
[2016-08-09 04:00:03] Rado : for who rapidtrades?
[2016-08-09 04:00:29] Rado : for traders?
[2016-08-09 04:00:35] rapidtrades : MMs
[2016-08-09 04:00:55] Rado : they can pick one exchange with the closest price to the index
[2016-08-09 04:01:13] Rado : the difference is not going to kill them
[2016-08-09 04:01:49] rapidtrades : we can't use gdax cos that's mostly ameros...only uk/canada can trade there
[2016-08-09 04:01:55] rapidtrades : so noone to pick really
[2016-08-09 04:02:01] habibi : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wu5up/chainalysis_et_al_just_identified_the_bfx_hackers/
[2016-08-09 04:03:09] rapidtrades : k...i'll wait for more proof
[2016-08-09 04:03:13] zanza : hmmm, no proof
[2016-08-09 04:03:26] zanza : how could they identify the hacker?
[2016-08-09 04:03:33] rapidtrades : guys its CHAINALYSIS ....whatver that means
[2016-08-09 04:03:42] rapidtrades : so they're russian?
[2016-08-09 04:03:50] zanza : the hacker could be selling addresses on DNM
[2016-08-09 04:04:01] rapidtrades : what's dnm
[2016-08-09 04:04:02] miramm1115 : Rado: look at the open interest here, there is not enough liquidity on small exchanges to hedge without large slippage
[2016-08-09 04:04:06] zanza : darknet market
[2016-08-09 04:04:12] zanza : selling private keys for 20% discount
[2016-08-09 04:04:19] rapidtrades : pfft 20%
[2016-08-09 04:04:22] rapidtrades : more like 80%
[2016-08-09 04:04:47] Rado : miramm1115: you don't have to hedge at these exchanges
[2016-08-09 04:04:56] Rado : you can hedge at any exchange
[2016-08-09 04:05:00] rapidtrades : u do if u make make markets
[2016-08-09 04:05:08] habibi : rapidtrades: i know google is hard to use these days for some but https://www.chainalysis.com/
[2016-08-09 04:05:11] willybot : One thing about this exchange is that they have good security. They have done well over the years.
[2016-08-09 04:05:14] Rado : if the index has 7-8 exchanges teh price will be a good average
[2016-08-09 04:05:19] rapidtrades : NO
[2016-08-09 04:05:28] rapidtrades : we were there before and it didn't work
[2016-08-09 04:05:42] Rado : what was teh issue?
[2016-08-09 04:05:47] rapidtrades : the reason we're down to 3 is because it DID NOT WORK
[2016-08-09 04:05:48] lockhedge : miramm1115: what about an international index like okc
[2016-08-09 04:05:52] rapidtrades : i just told u
[2016-08-09 04:06:14] rapidtrades : and even back then ppl bitched about this exchange being off and that exchange taking down the average
[2016-08-09 04:06:17] Rado : then there is no solution
[2016-08-09 04:06:26] Rado : because there is no 3rd exchange that is good
[2016-08-09 04:06:28] BitMEX_Sam : There are better & worse solutions, no perfect solution.
[2016-08-09 04:06:36] rapidtrades : agree
[2016-08-09 04:07:03] BitMEX_Sam : XBX did a better job of giving you "The Bitcoin Price" but their rating method was opaque, which meant MMs couldn't properly hedge
[2016-08-09 04:07:07] rapidtrades : if things go on like this we may all have to turn to Yuan trading
[2016-08-09 04:07:16] BitMEX_Sam : Kaiko has been pretty good so far except in the case of exchange outages
[2016-08-09 04:07:46] rapidtrades : yeah i read much less complaints about the new system
[2016-08-09 04:08:01] BitMEX_Sam : As for a third exchange, it's a tough choice. GDAX is basically it for USD outside of Stamp & OKC Intl
[2016-08-09 04:09:21] rapidtrades : hackers dumping coins after they were 'found'?
[2016-08-09 04:10:05] habibi : Yea, they already created acc on coinbase, right now they waiting for verification aproval
[2016-08-09 04:10:11] rapidtrades : it would be a small Christmas miracle if the coins are recovered
[2016-08-09 04:11:50] Rado : is it not possible to track them?
[2016-08-09 04:13:48] miramm1115 : lockhedge: international index with okc/huobi cny would work for me. I already have large cny exposure, and will have to increase it in any case now that finex is gone. not sure if it will work for regular traders though, makes the index much harder to eyeball
[2016-08-09 04:15:02] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Sam: nice digest :+1:
[2016-08-09 04:17:40] rapidtrades : guys did any of u got emails about the hack or haircut
[2016-08-09 04:17:48] rapidtrades : bitfinex customers?
[2016-08-09 04:20:35] rapidtrades : guys?
[2016-08-09 04:20:41] rapidtrades : fellas?
[2016-08-09 04:21:25] zanza : i got a phising email
[2016-08-09 04:23:33] rapidtrades : that's some major selling
[2016-08-09 04:26:26] zanza : retest 500 ?
[2016-08-09 04:30:25] rapidtrades : conspiracy theory: bitfinex was trading on their platform and got caught short so they needed to manufacture a 'hack'...after they covered the shorts they will magically 'recover' the coins
[2016-08-09 04:31:00] rapidtrades : if they manage to get smone arrested for this hack it would be a first
[2016-08-09 04:32:22] rapidtrades : upvote my shit https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/comments/4wubg4/bitfinex_has_sent_0_emails_since_the_hack/ bitcoin bots are downvoting everything
[2016-08-09 04:34:33] habibi : To the ground downvoted :)
[2016-08-09 04:57:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 700 @ 0.01939
[2016-08-09 05:14:08] zanza : im gunna search your post history
[2016-08-09 05:15:44] zanza : you use AirBNB apparently
[2016-08-09 05:16:46] zanza : wow you have a lot of posts in the anime porn reddits rapidtrades
[2016-08-09 05:17:01] Rado : Ha ha
[2016-08-09 05:18:15] zanza : http://snoopsnoo.com/u/Am_I_A_Deer
[2016-08-09 05:18:48] zanza : are you in Ukraine rapidtrades ?
[2016-08-09 05:19:33] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: u friggin pervert
[2016-08-09 05:20:54] Rado : Tetsuo: hey now
[2016-08-09 05:21:11] Rado : Rapid is my buddy
[2016-08-09 05:21:30] Tetsuo : Rado: rapid has no friends , he mean
[2016-08-09 05:22:03] Rado : That's why I like him
[2016-08-09 05:22:17] Rado : Also he is a fellow anarchist
[2016-08-09 05:22:25] Tetsuo : : - )
[2016-08-09 05:23:30] zanza : who likes anime girls
[2016-08-09 05:24:18] Rado : Looks like my short cover filled earlier at 580
[2016-08-09 05:24:28] Rado : :-)
[2016-08-09 05:24:56] Rado : Shorting all advances has been working
[2016-08-09 05:25:11] Rado : Until it stops he he
[2016-08-09 05:25:40] Rado : We need to break 600
[2016-08-09 05:26:10] zanza : graz Rado
[2016-08-09 05:26:36] Rado : Ty
[2016-08-09 05:27:12] Rado : Thanks gox willyvanily left
[2016-08-09 05:27:35] Rado : I couldn't stand his wining anymore
[2016-08-09 05:29:21] zanza : he didn't leave, just collecting data for the expose
[2016-08-09 05:29:43] Rado : There is no data to be collected
[2016-08-09 05:30:04] zanza : he is working with a highly skilled team
[2016-08-09 05:30:10] Rado : He is making up stuff because he lost money
[2016-08-09 05:30:31] Rado : You buy his shit?
[2016-08-09 05:31:01] willybot : you noobs actually believe bitmex dont run the bots you must be on crack
[2016-08-09 05:31:16] Rado : Would you risk your business if you owned BitMEX?
[2016-08-09 05:32:26] willybot : Rado: No.
[2016-08-09 05:32:42] Rado : There you go
[2016-08-09 05:33:01] willybot : Oh well, that clears it all up. Moving on then
[2016-08-09 05:33:20] Rado : You should
[2016-08-09 05:33:34] Rado : Polo is the right exchange for you
[2016-08-09 05:36:22] aethlios : why not adding kraken eur pair to kaiko undex? have 3 exchanges one from each currency.
[2016-08-09 05:37:10] Rado : aethlios: kaiko is using okcoin usc
[2016-08-09 05:37:17] Rado : Not okcoin china
[2016-08-09 05:37:21] Rado : Usd
[2016-08-09 05:46:18] aethlios : Rado: Ok!
[2016-08-09 06:17:23] ersagun : Hai guys. Seems like we're gonna be friends soon, same few people everyday :-)
[2016-08-09 06:17:49] zanza : and you are?
[2016-08-09 06:18:40] ersagun : Richard the Lionheart...?
[2016-08-09 06:26:30] zanza : useful info https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-08-09 07:52:36] rapidtrades : who do i email about the haircut? compliance or support
[2016-08-09 08:19:24] uiop : rapidtrades: does it matter if they both reach a disconnected number?
[2016-08-09 08:19:39] uiop : RIPFINEX
[2016-08-09 08:25:35] BitMEX_Wally : rapidtrades: Bitfinex have a compliance guy in Hong Kong, we've met him
[2016-08-09 08:26:43] willybot : lol lol etc fingered
[2016-08-09 08:27:25] willybot : the royal flush
[2016-08-09 08:28:11] BitMEX_Wally : ?
[2016-08-09 08:34:23] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: hey where can we get your details or linked in? We want to reach out and get some expertise
[2016-08-09 08:35:16] BitMEX_Wally : The only reaching you want to do involves no lube
[2016-08-09 08:35:41] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: I can spit on it?
[2016-08-09 08:35:45] migz : That big fat finger.
[2016-08-09 08:36:07] BitMEX_Wally : My identity is not secret, do your research
[2016-08-09 08:37:07] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: Im actually starting to like this exchange. Im confident in those behind it
[2016-08-09 08:37:37] terrr : pls how can I see the value of the volume bar?
[2016-08-09 08:37:51] willybot : terrr: click the +
[2016-08-09 08:38:20] terrr : willybot: thanks
[2016-08-09 08:48:30] willybot : why no liquidations on the ETC7D green dildo?
[2016-08-09 08:50:33] habibi : coz big shorter appeared to be just a guy that likes to loose money, and as it was market buy it didnt changed mark price that much
[2016-08-09 09:09:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 295 @ 0.01948
[2016-08-09 09:20:30] Mm bot : Wtf on ETC, buy all the way up to 0.004
[2016-08-09 09:21:02] Mm bot : Huge short position got market closed?
[2016-08-09 09:25:55] BitMEX_Wally : Not been any ETC liquidations for a while
[2016-08-09 09:26:55] Airmike : Hi BitMex. Thank you for your previous links regarding volume of the exchange
[2016-08-09 09:27:07] subjective : Probably someone wants to pump to drive shorts, they forgot mark price can't be manipulated. Probably a expansive lession to buy into my TP and MM orders...
[2016-08-09 09:27:13] Airmike : I just want to be sure that I am right with this
[2016-08-09 09:27:32] subjective : u can't burnt shorts on Bitmex
[2016-08-09 09:27:50] habibi : u can
[2016-08-09 09:28:18] Airmike : I see that last 24 hours is volume 4.6787 BTC
[2016-08-09 09:28:37] Airmike : 4679
[2016-08-09 09:28:42] Airmike : BTC sorry
[2016-08-09 09:28:44] willybot : to forge the mark price you just need to create vol at desired level
[2016-08-09 09:29:20] Mm bot : This idiot also messed up the mark price premium over Poloniex, that is the only thing he has done.
[2016-08-09 09:30:38] willybot : we are about to liquidate on polo
[2016-08-09 09:30:41] Airmike : is that information correct. could I compare this with other exchange like okcoin cn, where is 251 587 BTC traded ?
[2016-08-09 09:32:30] Mm bot : It is obvious ETH on break out, did someone trying exit pump or trying to save their long position ?
[2016-08-09 09:33:15] Airmike : and other question. for admin. Is there any chance that you will provide trading via Fix Protocol in future ?
[2016-08-09 10:02:38] BitMEX_Wally : Airmike: The volumes are comparable, and we charge fees on all traded volume you so you know it is not fake volume
[2016-08-09 10:04:04] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: Yeah but if you trade against yourself its just a bonus
[2016-08-09 10:04:24] willybot : do a yobit and allow us to wash it up. Everyone wins
[2016-08-09 10:04:55] BitMEX_Wally : We use FIX order/execution style messages over JSON and FIX ordStatus and execType, but no support for direct FIX connection yet
[2016-08-09 10:05:23] BitMEX_Wally : willybot: you can trade with yourself on BitMEX, you'll just pay fees and the trade will not be reported
[2016-08-09 10:07:15] Airmike : okey, so volume is really low then, but you also Pay for non marketable orders
[2016-08-09 10:07:44] Airmike : do you have your own Liquidity providers ?
[2016-08-09 10:07:46] TheMightyX : was there just an ETC buy up to .0045?
[2016-08-09 10:07:53] TheMightyX : or is this chart wonky...
[2016-08-09 10:08:10] BitMEX_Wally : Airmike: if you place a passive limit order you get paid the maker fee when it fills
[2016-08-09 10:08:13] habibi : yep. shorter closing short
[2016-08-09 10:08:35] habibi : that he openned in big part around 35
[2016-08-09 10:08:53] micmix : TheMightyX: 0.004495 13350 04:24:37B
[2016-08-09 10:09:25] TheMightyX : what happens if we all short etc?
[2016-08-09 10:09:35] TheMightyX : all 4 of us...
[2016-08-09 10:10:01] micmix : MM will make lots of money ;-)
[2016-08-09 10:10:14] BitMEX_Wally : Looks like someone FOMOd in long with a large market buy...
[2016-08-09 10:10:14] TheMightyX : its like a booby trap
[2016-08-09 10:11:22] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: ok cool. How much margin has he got? Where can we call him?
[2016-08-09 10:12:03] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: it was short closing, take a look at open interest
[2016-08-09 10:13:12] BitMEX_Wally : Airmike: BitMEX is currently #3 for Bitcoin vs USD: https://exchangewar.info/coinprice?BTC_USD
[2016-08-09 10:14:38] TheMightyX : u mean #3 now that Bitfinex is down?
[2016-08-09 10:15:27] BitMEX_Wally : The rankings are quite volatile based on 24 volume
[2016-08-09 10:16:32] BitMEX_Wally : and because we offer high leverage our trading volumes increase more with volatility than other exchanges
[2016-08-09 10:17:13] Tetsuo : Congratulations! Let´s go for #1
[2016-08-09 10:20:21] aethlios : finex was the leader in usd, no alternative for spot right now, so they have a chance to survive and find investors.
[2016-08-09 10:21:44] habibi : We are in discussions with potential investors as part of our strategy to fully compensate our customers. However, as one could imagine these talks take time and we are still in the early sages. If there any updates on this front, we'll be sure to communicate it with users.
[2016-08-09 10:22:41] Tetsuo : maybe mtgox or cryptsy will invest
[2016-08-09 10:22:59] habibi : i bet bitmex guys are willing to invest after yday article :)
[2016-08-09 10:23:17] Airmike : BitMex_Wally . nice. I have an offer for you. I would like to speak with someone who is responsible to make deals with potential Liquidity Providers. If you are interested to talk about it, let me know. my firm is one of the main LP at china exchanges. so I would like to speak privately.
[2016-08-09 10:24:11] habibi : thats a very kindly and professional to start a private conversation about business relations on trollbox
[2016-08-09 10:24:17] habibi : way * to start
[2016-08-09 10:24:21] aethlios : habibi: if a big player comes in pay the 72 mil. and give founders 5% and take over the 95%, is an attractive deal. he can lower fees for next 6 month period, and invest in security and safer trading engine.
[2016-08-09 10:24:36] habibi : aethlios: yep
[2016-08-09 10:24:42] Tetsuo : and jesus will walk on earth agin
[2016-08-09 10:24:53] JaTochNietDan : fuck Bitfinex
[2016-08-09 10:25:04] JaTochNietDan : lol nice censorship thing
[2016-08-09 10:25:19] habibi : try with hu0bi
[2016-08-09 10:25:25] aethlios : this finex token will be extremely volatile because a deal means a price of 1 usd, so rumors could make huge rallies to 1 usd.
[2016-08-09 10:26:15] Tetsuo : my 5 etc: Finex never ever opens again, finex token never ever will be traded ! Y? coz history of exit scams tells so
[2016-08-09 10:26:45] ZoNi : wowww
[2016-08-09 10:26:45] ZoNi : what happened
[2016-08-09 10:26:48] ZoNi : ETC7D -13387 0.004495 -13350 0.004495 Limit PartiallyFilled 2016-08-07 13:07:01
[2016-08-09 10:27:01] habibi : could u make a photo of ur face when first withdraws will go out Tetsuo?
[2016-08-09 10:27:03] Tetsuo : it was your lucky day i guess
[2016-08-09 10:27:13] Tetsuo : habibi: i will, i promise
[2016-08-09 10:27:35] ZoNi : thx for saving me dear guy
[2016-08-09 10:28:25] ZoNi : can he come back once again
[2016-08-09 10:28:38] ZoNi : how many contracts did he got
[2016-08-09 10:30:06] aethlios : ZoNi: irrelevant about trading people trading serious capital
[2016-08-09 10:30:25] ZoNi : hm?
[2016-08-09 10:33:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 900 @ 0.003315
[2016-08-09 10:34:11] migz : Someone bought ETC at 0.0044. It'l get rekt soon.
[2016-08-09 10:39:04] subjective : migz: yep, that is a huge order too.
[2016-08-09 10:39:14] subjective : probably 50+BTC worth
[2016-08-09 10:39:22] migz : Yeah
[2016-08-09 10:39:34] migz : Stoploss must be 0.003
[2016-08-09 10:39:34] habibi : probally 200+ btc worth
[2016-08-09 10:39:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 5 @ 0.01980
[2016-08-09 10:42:08] aethlios : migz: or he closed short, etc was in discount for long time, maybe he was opening shorts offering a discount to longs.
[2016-08-09 10:42:36] Airmike : BitMEX_Wally: ?
[2016-08-09 10:42:37] migz : Maybe, who knows. Could be closed short.
[2016-08-09 10:42:51] habibi : it was. just compare open interest now and before
[2016-08-09 10:43:51] Tetsuo : Bitcoin should get hardforked to get back the stolen coins and increase blocklimit to 2-4-8MB. They would solve 2 problems at once
[2016-08-09 10:44:02] habibi : ur ass should be hardforked :)
[2016-08-09 10:44:08] Tetsuo : *"stolen"* of course
[2016-08-09 10:44:32] aethlios : we will double our btc
[2016-08-09 10:44:55] men : i can't close my position on fct
[2016-08-09 10:45:02] men : the sell book is locked
[2016-08-09 10:45:09] men : on 0.04214
[2016-08-09 10:45:26] men : BitMEX_Wally: the sell book is locked
[2016-08-09 10:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5000 @ 0.003187
[2016-08-09 10:45:36] men : with fct
[2016-08-09 10:45:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.003166
[2016-08-09 10:45:59] Tetsuo : Don´t ever touch FCT or LISK or A50
[2016-08-09 10:48:34] men : Tetsuo: yeah i've seen it xD
[2016-08-09 10:48:38] men : lol
[2016-08-09 10:48:47] men : now fct sell book is ok
[2016-08-09 10:55:44] miramm1115 : we should hardfork BTC and roll back all transactions that happened after Mt Gox opened in 2013
[2016-08-09 10:55:59] habibi : and few that happened before miramm1115
[2016-08-09 10:56:51] miramm1115 : yeah, give some bitcoin back to the guy who bought pizza for 10k btc
[2016-08-09 10:57:18] men : miramm1115: lol xD
[2016-08-09 11:00:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 75 @ 0.01969
[2016-08-09 11:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.003253
[2016-08-09 11:20:09] zanza : whoa whats with the .044 ETC buy, that was to be a mistake
[2016-08-09 11:20:58] habibi : yea hardfork the exchange
[2016-08-09 11:22:12] ixess : zanza: was large market buy slippage
[2016-08-09 11:22:33] zanza : yeah, must be a new Bitfinex user
[2016-08-09 11:26:44] laisee : we rely on the kindness of newbies to help pay the trading billz
[2016-08-09 11:30:31] laisee : when will BFX tokens be traded here?
[2016-08-09 11:33:35] men : laisee: yeah we want bfx tokens :D
[2016-08-09 11:34:14] laisee : like trading tickets on the titanic, no?
[2016-08-09 11:36:31] laisee : or ... pump the value of BFX, convert to BTC and takeover the shattered remains of Bitfinex with the coins.
[2016-08-09 11:48:15] zanza : wow BTC getting crushed
[2016-08-09 11:48:20] zanza : ETC*
[2016-08-09 11:53:48] aethlios : I will buy 200.000 finex coins at 0.10, hope for plenty of dumpers...
[2016-08-09 11:54:41] habibi : at the end everyone is hoping for that
[2016-08-09 11:56:05] aethlios : habibi: sell btc to 700 and buy finex coins to 0.10 and pray for an investor-savor
[2016-08-09 11:56:46] aethlios : gox had 200 usd premium
[2016-08-09 11:56:58] wotan : aethlios: where you can buy them?
[2016-08-09 11:59:11] aethlios : wotan: for sure on finex. if you have btc or usd and want to trade in finex, best is to buy half with finex coins and use them as collateral to increase power. if finex goes down full you lose anyway, if servives you gain multiple from finex coins, but you won't gain if keep funds in usd btc.