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[2016-08-08 05:58:45] willybot : VenCap: bitfinex lol
[2016-08-08 05:59:07] VenCap : oh god... really odd polo dont margin trade it.
[2016-08-08 05:59:10] willybot : VenCap: Ive asked busoni at polo to open it up next week so I think they will
[2016-08-08 05:59:32] willybot : once that gets going we are in safe hands
[2016-08-08 05:59:46] VenCap : they will probably open it when they know for sure the direction it will take.
[2016-08-08 05:59:59] VenCap : willybot, whats withdraws like here? any problems?
[2016-08-08 06:00:11] VenCap : just reading some reviews.....
[2016-08-08 06:01:22] zanza : if you write bad reviews they block your withdrawals
[2016-08-08 06:02:21] willybot : VenCap: no known issues yet. Your problem is your trading against bitmex and they know your stops
[2016-08-08 06:02:23] VenCap : i dont write reviews. i was just readng them. and so far i really like the site
[2016-08-08 06:03:02] zanza : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking make sure to read this
[2016-08-08 06:03:11] zanza : new people get confused quite often about the price marking
[2016-08-08 06:03:35] willybot : VenCap: I honestly would not recommend it but have a play with some coins
[2016-08-08 06:05:17] VenCap : spot on.
[2016-08-08 06:05:43] willybot : VenCap: were did you come from?
[2016-08-08 06:05:55] VenCap : where did i come from?
[2016-08-08 06:06:06] zanza : Europe, Africa, USA ?
[2016-08-08 06:06:09] willybot : VenCap: yeah what other xchg
[2016-08-08 06:06:42] VenCap : ah, Europe.
[2016-08-08 06:07:00] VenCap : home to all the crazy bstrds
[2016-08-08 06:08:04] VenCap : i wish the vol was better here. Way too low.
[2016-08-08 06:08:23] zanza : If you want to trade like a spot market, choose the "perpetual products" like XBT
[2016-08-08 06:08:24] willybot : VenCap: I told you. Its Bitmex trading against themselves.
[2016-08-08 06:08:46] zanza : "Perpetual Swap"
[2016-08-08 06:08:51] willybot : VenCap: @zanza works here. Hes the resident shill
[2016-08-08 06:09:08] VenCap : it cant all be 100% bots
[2016-08-08 06:09:19] VenCap : no, i just want to trade ETC. :O)
[2016-08-08 06:09:39] willybot : VenCap: theres a handful of traders but good luck
[2016-08-08 06:10:04] VenCap : yeah. need to promote it more here on twitter and such :O)
[2016-08-08 06:10:20] VenCap : and considering its the only place to margin trade ETC should be much more popular.
[2016-08-08 06:10:59] zanza : there is a high learning curve
[2016-08-08 06:11:09] zanza : and its not new user friendly
[2016-08-08 06:11:46] willybot : VenCap: I know a few that came through but the low liquididty and dodgy books moved them along pretty quick
[2016-08-08 06:11:48] miramm1115 : ETC7D is very difficult to MM properly right now, so there is only one MM with smallish quotes and strong short bias
[2016-08-08 06:12:03] zanza : there is a testnet also you can do test trader
[2016-08-08 06:12:06] willybot : trading up to and over 3k sat spread on ETC is a waste of time
[2016-08-08 06:12:18] ggwp : long ETC now come back in year . . . account drained
[2016-08-08 06:12:42] miramm1115 : it will get better if/when polo enables margin trading
[2016-08-08 06:13:07] ggwp : polo is gonna exit scam soonish
[2016-08-08 06:13:10] zanza : does polo have margin trading on any crypto ?
[2016-08-08 06:13:10] willybot : miramm1115: it wont get better here. Everyone goes to polo.
[2016-08-08 06:13:18] willybot : zanza: ofc
[2016-08-08 06:13:21] ggwp : mark my word
[2016-08-08 06:14:18] willybot : ggwp: marked.
[2016-08-08 06:17:57] zanza : anyone help me how to deposit fake money on testnet?
[2016-08-08 06:23:42] Rado : zanza: you need to use bitcoin faucet
[2016-08-08 06:23:56] zanza : ehh?
[2016-08-08 06:24:36] Rado : http://easybitcoinfaucet.com/
[2016-08-08 06:24:39] zanza : oh, i found it
[2016-08-08 06:24:40] zanza : thanks
[2016-08-08 06:24:43] Rado : np
[2016-08-08 06:27:27] zanza : i want to run some malicious MM strategies
[2016-08-08 06:27:34] zanza : to see if I can profit from willybot
[2016-08-08 06:27:46] zanza : :)
[2016-08-08 06:27:57] willybot : zanza: goodluck.
[2016-08-08 06:28:08] zanza : its just testnet for now
[2016-08-08 06:29:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 60555.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-08 06:29:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.003790
[2016-08-08 06:30:07] willybot : If this place didnt have a %6 spread I would have taken most of your monies by now
[2016-08-08 06:30:36] willybot : Arthur would be bankrupt scratching for customer funds to pay rent
[2016-08-08 06:31:50] zanza : yeah and Sam would be giving handjobs for heroin
[2016-08-08 06:32:42] willybot : zanza: nah, we have use for him but I wont say no to a wristy
[2016-08-08 06:35:55] Rado : willybot: I can lend you some BTC so you can trade
[2016-08-08 06:36:44] Tetsuo : willybot: are u still crying around?
[2016-08-08 06:36:56] Tetsuo : for more than 10hours now?
[2016-08-08 06:37:07] willybot : Rado: yeah sure. just deposit to my okcoin
[2016-08-08 06:37:11] Tetsuo : u got rekt coz of n00b trading , end of story
[2016-08-08 06:37:28] willybot : Tetsuo: lol you just got back sit down and stay quite.
[2016-08-08 06:37:43] Rado : Tetsuo: he has been wining all day
[2016-08-08 06:37:51] Tetsuo : : - D
[2016-08-08 06:37:55] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-08 06:38:18] Rado : I just sold ETC 0.0038 from 0.0034
[2016-08-08 06:38:27] Rado : this is how you trade ETC willybot
[2016-08-08 06:38:35] Tetsuo : like a boss
[2016-08-08 06:39:08] willybot : Rado: I just sold at 395 on polo from 346
[2016-08-08 06:39:58] Rado : I was trading XBTUSD, but willybot challenged me that ETC is not tradable
[2016-08-08 06:40:16] willybot : Rado: lmao you cant school me on ETC or ETH.
[2016-08-08 06:40:30] Tetsuo : well the mm bot schooled you didn´t he?
[2016-08-08 06:40:38] zanza : it was Arthur
[2016-08-08 06:40:44] Tetsuo : lured you into a n00b trap
[2016-08-08 06:40:52] willybot : Tetsuo: no. Arthurs MM bot raped me
[2016-08-08 06:41:05] Tetsuo : yeah sure
[2016-08-08 06:41:36] willybot : its not his bot its his other sidekick that made it
[2016-08-08 06:43:14] zanza : anyone run Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[2016-08-08 06:44:32] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-08-08 06:44:36] ayy_lmao : "bot raped me"
[2016-08-08 06:44:49] macios15 : finex online? since when
[2016-08-08 06:45:02] ayy_lmao : shit bitmex trolboxers say
[2016-08-08 06:49:16] zanza : rado you still long ?
[2016-08-08 06:49:36] zanza : on that etc
[2016-08-08 06:52:48] Rado : zanza: sold
[2016-08-08 06:53:22] Rado : zanza: I upgraded from 14.04 and I had some issues
[2016-08-08 06:53:27] Rado : i reversed
[2016-08-08 06:53:46] Rado : will try again when I have more time
[2016-08-08 07:00:00] VenCap : its like judgement day in here... you cant beat the Bots!
[2016-08-08 07:00:13] VenCap : we need Arnie! Everyone get to the Chopper!
[2016-08-08 07:54:32] elmorte : 2600 BFX token....muthafckn cnts...
[2016-08-08 07:54:47] elmorte : rabid, how'd you go?
[2016-08-08 08:00:29] aethlios : bitmex prepare to add bitfinex coin contract.
[2016-08-08 08:11:28] cenkzu : 5600 bfx
[2016-08-08 08:16:20] bernx : So today another shit day with no movement?
[2016-08-08 08:24:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 265 @ 0.003563
[2016-08-08 08:37:45] subjective : aethlios: where did you read about BFX coin contract here?
[2016-08-08 08:38:31] aethlios : subjective: I am suggesting bitmex team to create a finex contract.
[2016-08-08 08:46:59] Tetsuo : i am suggesting that they should add the pair goxcoins/finexcoins
[2016-08-08 09:28:47] zanza : Poloniex will list anything
[2016-08-08 09:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.002837
[2016-08-08 10:24:57] zanza : https://medium.com/@Ledger/how-to-properly-secure-cryptocurrencies-exchanges-511fe7a669a3#.zev24ac0e
[2016-08-08 10:25:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 400 @ 0.002873
[2016-08-08 10:29:38] bernx : Bitmex
[2016-08-08 10:29:42] bernx : What about FCT?
[2016-08-08 10:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.003483
[2016-08-08 10:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 29 @ 0.003518
[2016-08-08 10:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.003501
[2016-08-08 10:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.003460
[2016-08-08 10:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.003391
[2016-08-08 11:01:19] willybot : If your still long on ETC your about to be gutted
[2016-08-08 11:02:56] justinlooking : unless ur short a grillion contracts on polo ;)
[2016-08-08 11:04:18] lockhedge : thought there is no ETC margin trading on polo
[2016-08-08 11:04:45] willybot : justinlooking: which your not
[2016-08-08 11:04:58] justinlooking : unfortuntly not...
[2016-08-08 11:07:15] willybot : all part of the bitmex scam.
[2016-08-08 11:08:30] justinlooking : ?
[2016-08-08 11:09:33] willybot : Insider trading on the platform using MM bots to wash trades and manipulate the market
[2016-08-08 11:10:10] willybot : if you go long with some size they remove bids and squeeze
[2016-08-08 11:13:12] lockhedge : willybot: you can't expect infinite liquidity from market makers. especially if this is the only place you can short
[2016-08-08 11:13:27] justinlooking : willybot: u realize it's a future, right?
[2016-08-08 11:14:07] willybot : I know exactly what it is.
[2016-08-08 11:15:02] lockhedge : why are you surprised that a future trades at a discount to spot?
[2016-08-08 11:15:27] willybot : lockhedge: I am not.
[2016-08-08 11:18:20] ayy_lmao : there is no scam
[2016-08-08 11:18:26] ayy_lmao : thats how market makers make money
[2016-08-08 11:18:28] ayy_lmao : trading 101
[2016-08-08 11:21:32] lockhedge : market makers are not allowed to manipulate price or liquidity, so "removing bids" with the intention to "squeeze" longs would be illegal
[2016-08-08 11:22:09] lockhedge : but willybot does not present any evidence
[2016-08-08 11:23:33] bernx : http://imgur.com/u2YU9KE
[2016-08-08 11:29:15] rapidtrades : lockhedge: did u have funds at finex?
[2016-08-08 11:29:38] rapidtrades : who had funds over there? whats' ur play?
[2016-08-08 11:31:45] willybot : rapidtrades: Once I get what I can out then I'll make a move
[2016-08-08 11:32:02] rapidtrades : and how do u plan to 'get out'
[2016-08-08 11:32:15] rapidtrades : cos most of my shit is in USD and im not verified
[2016-08-08 11:32:41] lockhedge : rapidtrades: only have a few pennies left there
[2016-08-08 11:32:49] willybot : rapidtrades: Im not sure yet. The next two weeks will be interesting
[2016-08-08 11:32:58] habibi : rapidtrades: trading will be enabled probally at same time as withdraws
[2016-08-08 11:33:07] lockhedge : rapidtrades: if you can, get verified
[2016-08-08 11:33:11] rapidtrades : yeah and btc will skyrocket
[2016-08-08 11:33:32] willybot : rapidtrades: all USD dumed into BTC for the flight
[2016-08-08 11:33:44] lockhedge : a lot of unverified ppl will try to buy BTC, probably high premium at finex
[2016-08-08 11:33:53] habibi : rapidtrades: so hedge it before.
[2016-08-08 11:34:01] rapidtrades : lockhedge: ur right i should hand over 2 Ids and 2 proof of residence to a company that just got hacked for 70mil
[2016-08-08 11:34:18] rapidtrades : habibi: spike will be finex only dummy
[2016-08-08 11:35:17] habibi : ur loss is about 1 btc? u said sth about 3 btc in total as balance
[2016-08-08 11:35:52] rapidtrades : yeah and ton of usd
[2016-08-08 11:36:04] rapidtrades : so no my loss is not only 3 btc
[2016-08-08 11:36:47] rapidtrades : we have to sue, 90% of ppl were long over therer and are happy to rape us
[2016-08-08 11:37:20] rapidtrades : also it appears ameros are not getting haircutted on their USD
[2016-08-08 11:37:32] rapidtrades : and they're likely making deals with whales
[2016-08-08 11:37:49] habibi : hehehe so much fud here :D
[2016-08-08 11:37:55] rapidtrades : it's better overall to just force them into bakruptsy and have a chance at fair settlement
[2016-08-08 11:39:34] habibi : what additional funds will be recoverable thru bankruptcy and why u really think it will be worth more than actual state after years of lawyers work, liquidators and stuff like that? As a unverified user u will be on the very bottom of queue to get paid back.
[2016-08-08 11:39:55] rapidtrades : i just told u dummy
[2016-08-08 11:40:07] rapidtrades : i don't trust them to give me a fair settlement
[2016-08-08 11:40:17] rapidtrades : THEIR ENTIRE NET WORTH IS LAIBLE
[2016-08-08 11:40:25] rapidtrades : they showed gross negligence
[2016-08-08 11:40:52] miramm1115 : rapidtrades: plus in most cases directors are personally liable
[2016-08-08 11:41:25] rapidtrades : plus deceptive marketing
[2016-08-08 11:41:38] rapidtrades : we thought they only had 0.5% in hot wallet
[2016-08-08 11:41:42] rapidtrades : NOT EVERYTHING
[2016-08-08 11:42:54] rapidtrades : also bankruptsy is the only shot we have of ever getting fully repaid
[2016-08-08 11:43:14] rapidtrades : competent management may buy them up
[2016-08-08 11:43:31] habibi : Lol, u deluded. Good luck with that
[2016-08-08 11:43:47] rapidtrades : how am I deluded? watch me bitch
[2016-08-08 11:44:29] rapidtrades : do i have to pay to make a new subreddt
[2016-08-08 11:45:33] lockhedge : no, it's free
[2016-08-08 11:45:40] rapidtrades : so how
[2016-08-08 11:47:09] lockhedge : https://www.reddit.com/subreddits/create
[2016-08-08 11:47:29] rapidtrades : yeah tnx
[2016-08-08 11:48:54] lockhedge : you might get much more visibility with a simple post to /r/BitcoinMarkets https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/submit?selftext=true
[2016-08-08 11:50:30] rapidtrades : f*Ck em, they're downvoting everything
[2016-08-08 11:51:11] habibi : don't worry, u tried really hard
[2016-08-08 11:51:55] rapidtrades : bitch, watch me
[2016-08-08 11:54:34] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 11:54:39] rapidtrades : sub that bitch
[2016-08-08 11:55:27] habibi : Amazing
[2016-08-08 11:56:40] rapidtrades : this is the only way to force them into bankruptsy
[2016-08-08 11:56:58] habibi : And lost ur money for ever :)
[2016-08-08 11:57:00] ggwp : bancryptsy?
[2016-08-08 11:57:17] rapidtrades : they werer still profitable and with new management they could make us whole
[2016-08-08 11:58:29] habibi : If u ever into math u would know how long would them take to recover that loss if only 100% profit would go for that
[2016-08-08 11:58:35] habibi : 100% earnings *
[2016-08-08 11:58:56] rapidtrades : 5 years at this years voume
[2016-08-08 11:59:14] habibi : As i said, if u would ever into math...
[2016-08-08 11:59:30] rapidtrades : also...i intend to get 90% back since my USD was not hacked
[2016-08-08 12:00:14] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCXBT`: Buy 1098 @ 0.00643
[2016-08-08 12:01:21] habibi : And at same time u wanna bankruptcy and liquidation of company assets then recover ur share of that
[2016-08-08 12:01:22] habibi : LOL
[2016-08-08 12:02:54] rapidtrades : yeah like i said, i get 90% then rest from earnings
[2016-08-08 12:03:37] habibi : :D
[2016-08-08 12:03:50] rapidtrades : this 'haircut' is a bad deal for anyone that had mostly USD over there
[2016-08-08 12:04:36] rapidtrades : i'm not subsidizing perpetually long kids
[2016-08-08 12:04:55] habibi : Of course, so go sue them and liquidate. I bet u will get better deal than that :D
[2016-08-08 12:05:20] rapidtrades : they would be better offf under my plan anyway since they won't be able to trade away their assets, it wil be locked
[2016-08-08 12:05:29] rapidtrades : ^longers
[2016-08-08 12:06:08] rapidtrades : habibi: what do u suggest then? they're incompetent...they can't repays us
[2016-08-08 12:06:13] rapidtrades : this didn't even offer shares lol
[2016-08-08 12:06:20] habibi : Oh, Dear Court i wanna speculate on Btc assets as most of my holdings were in USD and thats why i am here, but please Court don't liquidate these btcs until btc> 2000 usd
[2016-08-08 12:07:02] rapidtrades : some worthless token that may 'possibly' convert to shares if 'finex allows it'
[2016-08-08 12:07:04] rapidtrades : it's a joke
[2016-08-08 12:07:10] rapidtrades : they're not contributing anything
[2016-08-08 12:07:19] rapidtrades : did u listen to zane interview?
[2016-08-08 12:07:23] rapidtrades : they're idiots
[2016-08-08 12:08:23] rapidtrades : not only that but they want to restart their compnay WITHOUT MAKING ANY PERSONAL SACRIFICES
[2016-08-08 12:08:28] rapidtrades : unacceptable
[2016-08-08 12:08:38] rapidtrades : force them out, get better team
[2016-08-08 12:09:34] rapidtrades : bankruptcy, liquidation, restructuring etc...there are plenty of options here
[2016-08-08 12:11:35] habibi : In all of these cases u will get less, i promise u. Now they looking for investors, small chance they find one, but if they will u will recover more or maybe 100%. In case of bankruptcy/liquidation its all dead, noone want to buy such company just to fill ur pockets, its better to hire some of ex employees and start a new one, better one.
[2016-08-08 12:14:57] rapidtrades : u can't promise me shit dude
[2016-08-08 12:15:01] rapidtrades : ur not a lawyer
[2016-08-08 12:16:30] rapidtrades : they would restructure....it's not a black and white choice like they're presenting
[2016-08-08 12:16:31] lockhedge : habibi: why should anyone invest in their company? they are facing multiple law suits and their tech is worthless
[2016-08-08 12:17:02] rapidtrades : so BVI is the place to sue o what
[2016-08-08 12:17:05] rapidtrades : HK?
[2016-08-08 12:18:19] habibi : lockhedge: don't know, pure speculation but lets say invest, a lot of internal changes in finex/stuff, and trying to expand as much as possible their bussinesses.
[2016-08-08 12:20:42] rapidtrades : exactly, restructuring would be the goal..they're profitable and with new management will do ok
[2016-08-08 12:20:50] rapidtrades : they were n1 before hack
[2016-08-08 12:21:01] rapidtrades : new management, new coders etc
[2016-08-08 12:21:22] habibi : once again they not making that much money as u think
[2016-08-08 12:21:52] rapidtrades : yeah cos they're incompetent
[2016-08-08 12:22:36] lockhedge : rapidtrades: afaik for insolvency proceedings it should be the BVI, criminal proceedings most likely HK as principle place of business
[2016-08-08 12:22:38] rapidtrades : plus do u really trust finex to do the asset clawback fairly?
[2016-08-08 12:22:46] rapidtrades : i don't trust them one bit
[2016-08-08 12:24:27] rapidtrades : lockhedge: tnx
[2016-08-08 12:25:03] rapidtrades : post any info about potential lawsuit here https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 12:25:16] rapidtrades : laws that would apply, tos etc
[2016-08-08 12:25:26] rapidtrades : i need to eat smth getting a headache
[2016-08-08 12:27:09] habibi : Bon Apetite Deer
[2016-08-08 12:58:55] rapidtrades : i can't post a text post on r/bitcoin?
[2016-08-08 13:18:43] zanza : why ?
[2016-08-08 13:45:31] laisee : BFX for sale
[2016-08-08 14:13:33] men : whats the news for factom?
[2016-08-08 14:18:08] bernx : parthen ship
[2016-08-08 14:20:06] HackedOnBFX : hey guys
[2016-08-08 14:20:30] laisee : HackedOnBFX: hacked off?
[2016-08-08 14:20:59] zanza : @HackedOnBFX please read the https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking guide before you start trading here
[2016-08-08 14:21:36] zanza : some new traders are experience butthurt
[2016-08-08 14:22:21] HackedOnBFX : zanza: thanks for that bro
[2016-08-08 14:22:36] HackedOnBFX : I already made a pretty awesome trade but I'll definitely give it a read
[2016-08-08 14:22:57] zanza : good luck
[2016-08-08 14:24:03] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: Hi, welcome to BitMEX. Let me know if you have any questions
[2016-08-08 14:24:22] HackedOnBFX : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks!
[2016-08-08 14:25:42] HackedOnBFX : Have you guys seen a bunch of new people since bitfinex shindig?
[2016-08-08 14:27:53] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: We have seen a few new users come aboard, since we are one of the only places to trade with leverage now
[2016-08-08 14:29:43] HackedOnBFX : BitMEX_Greg: I don't think I fully understand the fees
[2016-08-08 14:29:57] HackedOnBFX : I heard on reddit there is a 1% fee per day
[2016-08-08 14:30:06] HackedOnBFX : But I don't see anything about that on the fees page.
[2016-08-08 14:32:15] zanza : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-08-08 14:32:35] zanza : XBTUSD is a XBT/USD swap contract priced on the .XBT Index. Each contract is worth $1 of Bitcoin. Funding is paid and received every 8 hours. The next payout event is at 13:00 (20:00 UTC). XBTUSD uses a Premium Index to calculate funding rates.
[2016-08-08 14:32:53] aaa : HackedOnBFX: there is no dayly fee
[2016-08-08 14:33:21] aaa : daily
[2016-08-08 14:33:42] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: We have funding per contract. Given the large selloff last week we did see some funding rates go as high as 1% per day, but that is usually not standard. It depends what position you have also. Last week longs received the funding while shorts paid the funding.
[2016-08-08 14:34:17] BitMEX_Greg : BitMEX does not receive any of the funding. It is purely long vs short, dependent upon how the market is moving with respect to the underlying index
[2016-08-08 14:34:34] BitMEX_Greg : Take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide for further examples
[2016-08-08 14:36:44] nip : BitMEX_Greg: does BitMEX or any of its employees trade or place orders on this exchange?
[2016-08-08 14:36:57] willybot : nip: They run the MM bots
[2016-08-08 14:43:50] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: Answer the question greg.
[2016-08-08 14:45:33] BitMEX_Wally : willybot: BitMEX and its employees only trade on testnet
[2016-08-08 14:46:46] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: Dont lie to your customers.
[2016-08-08 14:50:40] BitMEX_Greg : nip: As per Wally, we do not trade here at all.
[2016-08-08 14:50:58] zanza : willybot: lost money, therefore the system must be rigged against him
[2016-08-08 14:51:37] willybot : Ive actually made money. But I am aware that Bitmex operate the MM bots.
[2016-08-08 14:52:04] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: don't u think its better to change etc contract back to daily as long as there are no other margin trading outside bmex?
[2016-08-08 14:52:24] willybot : habibi: No incentive for them
[2016-08-08 14:53:58] habibi : willybot: i am not talking with u as long as u not deliver any proof for ur speculations
[2016-08-08 14:55:34] willybot : habibi: There are a number of people working on these claims. When its all together you will be well aware.
[2016-08-08 14:57:11] nip : BitMEX_Wally: @BitMEX_Greg: Thanks for clearing that up.
[2016-08-08 14:57:40] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: Hi Wally, do you have a social profile or link in we can see?
[2016-08-08 14:57:51] zanza : habibi: he saw the orders get pulled, what more proff do you need?
[2016-08-08 14:58:22] willybot : zanza: dont be a smart ass zanza
[2016-08-08 15:07:25] zanza : new risk limit?
[2016-08-08 15:08:01] nip : wow those are low
[2016-08-08 15:10:04] zanza : so 50x leverage at 200btc, 25x leverage at 300 btc 12.5 leverageg at 400 btc
[2016-08-08 15:11:19] zanza : the email doesn't match the risk page
[2016-08-08 15:12:23] zanza : i guess makes it harder to abuse the leverage adjustment stop trick
[2016-08-08 15:12:26] Rado : I much rather talk about improving the system and attracting more MMs
[2016-08-08 15:13:01] Rado : tired of this pointing fingers without any basis
[2016-08-08 15:13:25] Rado : BitMEX guys I thought you have a system where everything gets audited
[2016-08-08 15:13:54] zanza : rado ?
[2016-08-08 15:14:05] BitMEX_Greg : zanza: The risk page is yet to be updated. We wanted to put it in the email first.
[2016-08-08 15:14:27] BitMEX_Greg : Rado: Everything is audited
[2016-08-08 15:15:16] Rado : then can you provide willybot with logs so he stops talking about this
[2016-08-08 15:15:33] Rado : I like this chat to be about community helping each other become better traders
[2016-08-08 15:16:32] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: i would love to third party audit. Thats a great idea @Rado
[2016-08-08 15:17:38] willybot : I'll be honest. I dgaf if they run the bots as long as hey dont bs.
[2016-08-08 15:21:35] zanza : what logs to show? the recent trads panel shows all trade history
[2016-08-08 15:22:28] zanza : i doubt they record logs of pulled orders
[2016-08-08 15:23:19] willybot : zanza: I think im going to enjoy this now
[2016-08-08 15:25:46] justinlooking : they absolutely do have logs of pulled orders
[2016-08-08 15:26:37] zanza : willy is claiming bitmex themslves pulled orders
[2016-08-08 15:26:47] zanza : so, you cna't prove WHO pulled the order
[2016-08-08 15:27:16] zanza : without revealing other trader personal info
[2016-08-08 15:27:55] zanza : btw think Finex going to bankruptsy 100%
[2016-08-08 15:28:53] jesperf : seriously guys. market makers are running bots. bitmex provides a sample for this so anyone can be a MM if one is so inclined. are you angry that they decide to pull orders based on activity in the orderbooks?
[2016-08-08 15:29:12] willybot : look. I wont bring it up again. There are a few working on compiling and they will get inside everything they need.
[2016-08-08 15:29:38] jesperf : take the blue pill wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe
[2016-08-08 15:30:21] willybot : One thing I cant get over is how dumb you all are
[2016-08-08 15:30:37] jesperf : you should be happy for that
[2016-08-08 15:30:54] zanza : willy, the only way you could prove it, is if you hacked their servers/code and see they are actually running a MM
[2016-08-08 15:31:16] willybot : well its good but you dont have enough btc
[2016-08-08 15:31:34] willybot : zanza: wow your a genius
[2016-08-08 15:31:56] HackedOnBFX : hey keep it civil!
[2016-08-08 15:32:24] willybot : HackedOnBFX: im sorry I come from beyond I really am trying to adjust
[2016-08-08 15:32:44] HackedOnBFX : beyond?
[2016-08-08 15:33:03] jesperf : this chat is butterflies and rainbows compared to other trollboxes
[2016-08-08 15:33:13] jesperf : <3 <3 <3
[2016-08-08 15:33:14] willybot : HackedOnBFX: hard to explain
[2016-08-08 15:33:29] HackedOnBFX : jesperf: very true
[2016-08-08 15:34:01] willybot : If it was called a chatbox I would better know how to behave
[2016-08-08 15:34:47] wotan : jesperf agree:)
[2016-08-08 15:39:29] HackedOnBFX : so whats stopping me from selling the sept 30th contract and buying the perpetual swap and profiting from the premium?
[2016-08-08 15:40:29] zanza : so you admit you are trolling with this MM business?
[2016-08-08 15:41:07] zanza : thr perpetual swap premum changes
[2016-08-08 15:41:24] willybot : zanza: no Im not trolling
[2016-08-08 15:41:33] HackedOnBFX : zanza: the perp swap is 585 and sept 30th is 625
[2016-08-08 15:41:44] willybot : HackedOnBFX: dont tell everyone. exe
[2016-08-08 15:41:55] HackedOnBFX : could I not risk-free sell the sept 30th and buy the perp swap?
[2016-08-08 15:42:21] HackedOnBFX : would the fees eat into the profit?
[2016-08-08 15:43:09] zanza : the perpetual has a negative premium now, and the sept positive, so you can trade that contango they call it
[2016-08-08 15:44:02] Rado : I wish I was a MOD in this chat so I can ban this imbecile
[2016-08-08 15:45:03] zanza : HackedOnBFX: its not as simple as it seem,s but im tired and can't think it through
[2016-08-08 15:49:24] bernx : Rado: which one?
[2016-08-08 15:50:58] habibi : rapidtrades: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wqs3u/announcement_regarding_reports_about_bitfinex_not/
[2016-08-08 15:51:51] willybot : Rado: o/
[2016-08-08 15:59:35] zanza : who knows what to believe habibi
[2016-08-08 16:10:15] lockhedge : HackedOnBFX: XBTU16 is a quanto futures contract, it's riskier to short (premium might become very high with high volatility)
[2016-08-08 16:10:55] lockhedge : HackedOnBFX: this blog post explains very well how quantos and inverse contracts behave https://blog.bitmex.com/xbt-vs-xbu-chain/
[2016-08-08 17:10:12] justinlooking : rETC time?
[2016-08-08 18:24:42] Rado : all markets stuck right now
[2016-08-08 18:24:47] Rado : BTC, ETH, ETC
[2016-08-08 18:25:02] Rado : need some news to get things going one way or another
[2016-08-08 18:33:11] justinlooking : yeh v stagnant
[2016-08-08 18:58:00] jesperf : i've got some bad news
[2016-08-08 18:59:53] Rado : jesperf: what's up?
[2016-08-08 18:59:58] jesperf : we're all going to die!
[2016-08-08 19:00:07] Rado : that's old news
[2016-08-08 19:05:20] wotan : what you guys think about kim dotcoms bitcache?
[2016-08-08 19:05:50] wotan : he says bitcoin 2000 dollar in 2017:)
[2016-08-08 19:05:54] jesperf : seriously cool idea
[2016-08-08 19:06:11] wotan : i think too
[2016-08-08 19:06:24] jesperf : that's a pretty radical estimate though :) we're going up all right, but not so fast
[2016-08-08 19:07:47] wotan : yes lets see no one can say it
[2016-08-08 19:15:28] Rado : I love the idea of micro transactions using bitcoin, but not for file uploads
[2016-08-08 19:15:37] Rado : there are so many industries that can benefit from this
[2016-08-08 19:15:46] Rado : he is doing it fo rfile uploads because that is his business
[2016-08-08 19:15:53] Rado : I personally think it wil not work there
[2016-08-08 19:16:25] Rado : The reason he had so many users is because everything was free and illegal
[2016-08-08 19:16:32] Rado : make it paid and no one will touch it
[2016-08-08 19:16:53] Rado : unless he makes deals with the content providers like Netflix is doing
[2016-08-08 19:17:12] jesperf : it's "paid" but the transactions are so small that they will feel like free
[2016-08-08 19:17:16] Rado : I would buy a movie in a hearth beat if it cost me 0.50 to watch it
[2016-08-08 19:17:26] jesperf : no, of course he's catering to the pirates and porn junkies
[2016-08-08 19:17:36] Rado : jesperf: users will not setup Bitcoin wallets so they can download a file
[2016-08-08 19:17:55] Rado : and they need to put BTC in their wallet
[2016-08-08 19:18:08] Rado : I don't know, fo rme something is missing
[2016-08-08 19:18:11] jesperf : i think a lot of pirates and pornies already have btc
[2016-08-08 19:18:36] Rado : but he is expecting this to be a killer service with million of users
[2016-08-08 20:06:49] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4wpyrn/bfx_socialised_loss_confirmed_by_uk_police_cyber/
[2016-08-08 20:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.003243
[2016-08-08 20:38:33] HackedOnBFX : lol i like how the bot is named rekt
[2016-08-08 20:42:00] rapidtrades : sup homies
[2016-08-08 20:42:17] justinlooking : o/
[2016-08-08 20:43:35] rapidtrades : verified americans will leave with USD 0 losses
[2016-08-08 20:43:39] rapidtrades : isn't that sweet
[2016-08-08 20:43:52] habibi : and u are one of them?
[2016-08-08 20:43:55] rapidtrades : whales will get shares
[2016-08-08 20:44:11] rapidtrades : while the rest of us plebians GET F*cKED IN THE ASS
[2016-08-08 20:44:33] habibi : shares? u mean bfx coin?
[2016-08-08 20:44:54] rapidtrades : nope actual shares
[2016-08-08 20:45:16] habibi : The BFX tokens will remain outstanding until redeemed in full by Bitfinex or possibly exchanged—upon the creditor’s request and Bitfinex’s acceptance—for shares of iFinex Inc.
[2016-08-08 20:45:22] habibi : thats ur talk about?
[2016-08-08 20:45:46] rapidtrades : nope..zane said in interview that they're giving whales shares
[2016-08-08 20:46:16] rapidtrades : notice the working you have to 'ask' and they have to 'accept'
[2016-08-08 20:46:21] rapidtrades : wording
[2016-08-08 20:47:17] HackedOnBFX : im requesting shares
[2016-08-08 20:47:24] rapidtrades : Just like in Nazi Germany, the rich jews go to America while the poor get gaassed
[2016-08-08 20:47:33] rapidtrades : bitfinex=literally nazis
[2016-08-08 20:49:23] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4wocww/daily_discussion_monday_august_08_2016/d69c8p6
[2016-08-08 20:49:33] rapidtrades : smone post this to our subreddit
[2016-08-08 20:49:41] rapidtrades : im logged under diff account atm
[2016-08-08 20:50:16] HackedOnBFX : we have a subreddit?
[2016-08-08 20:50:23] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 20:50:48] habibi : isnt it coz insurance from the bank ?
[2016-08-08 20:50:57] habibi : this one particular ?
[2016-08-08 20:51:54] rapidtrades : don't know but it may mean bigger cut for rest of us
[2016-08-08 20:52:00] rapidtrades : plus shows precedent
[2016-08-08 20:52:23] habibi : if its coz of insurance then no, it doesnt matter for u
[2016-08-08 20:52:38] rapidtrades : I wonder if we can subpoena their bank to send our money directly
[2016-08-08 20:52:47] rapidtrades : it's supposed to be segregated right
[2016-08-08 20:53:29] rapidtrades : also notice how they cut off access to ur bitgo reports
[2016-08-08 20:53:47] rapidtrades : hiding their tracks so u can't see if u individually got hacked
[2016-08-08 20:54:13] rapidtrades : so now everyone thinks well maybe I got hacked so better keep my mouth shut or i could lose everything not just 36%
[2016-08-08 20:54:20] habibi : hiding their tracks :D they changing blockchain data right :D?
[2016-08-08 20:54:30] rapidtrades : also they deleted their TOS
[2016-08-08 20:55:04] rapidtrades : habibi: i checked mine out, nothing moved...problem is the 3 addresses u see were (According to zane) part of much bigger wallet
[2016-08-08 20:55:40] rapidtrades : so u can't really tell just by the blockchain, cos u don't know what addresses to look up now without the bitgo reports
[2016-08-08 20:55:52] habibi : u will get them no worries
[2016-08-08 20:56:02] rapidtrades : i know i will
[2016-08-08 20:56:17] danilo : etc?
[2016-08-08 21:00:47] HackedOnBFX : danilo: etc the best thing thats happened to me since btc went to 775
[2016-08-08 21:01:15] HackedOnBFX : You playin the short or long game?
[2016-08-08 21:03:33] rapidtrades : how do ppl attach photos on steemit?
[2016-08-08 21:10:26] lockhedge : Gatecoin re-launched post hack with an instrument called ETD (ETH debt) https://blog.gatecoin.com/update-on-re-launch-of-trading-platform-aug-5-804754f255aa#.l706wiove
[2016-08-08 21:10:47] lockhedge : "On re-launch, all ETH holders affected by the hack will be eligible to withdraw 10% of their funds in ETH. The remaining 90% in ETH balances will be listed as ETD (ETH debt) on client balances."
[2016-08-08 21:11:39] rapidtrades : interesting
[2016-08-08 21:12:14] rapidtrades : these smaller exchanges can get away with a lot cos crypto ppl are dumb as bricks
[2016-08-08 21:17:36] rapidtrades : bitfinex must know that ppl will sue....so what's their play here?
[2016-08-08 21:17:55] habibi : they werent aware that u will sue them as well
[2016-08-08 21:17:59] rapidtrades : to throw their hands in the air and say we tried by evil gubernant came in to stop us
[2016-08-08 21:18:11] rapidtrades : habibi: oh don't worry, im working on my email
[2016-08-08 21:18:27] habibi : email...sounds scary
[2016-08-08 21:18:43] elmorte : you know you gotta use fax or gtfo
[2016-08-08 21:18:47] rapidtrades : how else are u gonna contact a company in HK
[2016-08-08 21:19:11] habibi : i heard u were talking sth about laywers and stuff like that? u dont want to do it anymore?
[2016-08-08 21:19:15] elmorte : Make sure you request or a read receipt
[2016-08-08 21:19:26] rapidtrades : habibi: u don't go nuclear in step 1 man
[2016-08-08 21:19:36] rapidtrades : elmorte: can u do that on google
[2016-08-08 21:20:44] elmorte : only for Google Apps for Work, Education, and Government customers. They are not available in personal Gmail accounts :/
[2016-08-08 21:20:53] rapidtrades : greeeat
[2016-08-08 21:21:02] rapidtrades : so how much does that cost
[2016-08-08 21:21:17] elmorte : lol...
[2016-08-08 21:21:30] habibi : btw pos page link rapid?
[2016-08-08 21:21:47] rapidtrades : WAT
[2016-08-08 21:21:52] rapidtrades : HAJIBI WHAT DO U WANT
[2016-08-08 21:21:59] rapidtrades : I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR SHIT
[2016-08-08 21:22:03] habibi : tos*
[2016-08-08 21:22:09] rapidtrades : yeah gone
[2016-08-08 21:22:20] rapidtrades : did u find it
[2016-08-08 21:22:22] elmorte : you can if you send via outlook
[2016-08-08 21:22:28] Rado : for the first time I see OKCoin USD higher than OKCoin China
[2016-08-08 21:22:29] elmorte : even if it's gmaoil
[2016-08-08 21:22:29] habibi : yea could u give me link to it? even its gone?
[2016-08-08 21:22:32] rapidtrades : post it on our sub
[2016-08-08 21:22:44] rapidtrades : no i saw it on reddit
[2016-08-08 21:23:21] habibi : did u verified it?
[2016-08-08 21:23:35] elmorte : fckin finex...lost more to those cnts then I did being long here for over a week...
[2016-08-08 21:23:59] elmorte : and 90% of my account was in ETH
[2016-08-08 21:24:20] rapidtrades : https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-08 21:24:33] habibi : oh its working somehow
[2016-08-08 21:24:52] elmorte : should check if it's the same version
[2016-08-08 21:25:02] elmorte : them cnt be sly...
[2016-08-08 21:25:05] elmorte : cnts*
[2016-08-08 21:25:24] habibi : rapidtrades: u talk about how dumb people are in crypto and u didnt even check simple thing u read on reddit.
[2016-08-08 21:25:45] elmorte : all caps incoming...
[2016-08-08 21:27:57] justinlooking : https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-08 21:28:54] rapidtrades : there's no date
[2016-08-08 21:29:44] justinlooking : u wot m8
[2016-08-08 21:47:08] ayy_lmao : lo
[2016-08-08 21:47:09] ayy_lmao : l
[2016-08-08 21:54:01] Rado : I haven't seen price of BTC so close for all exchanges
[2016-08-08 21:54:17] Rado : seems like all of them are in a waiting mode to see what happens with Bitfinex
[2016-08-08 21:56:01] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YryXz6vY-BTC-going-to-around-540-for-a-retest-of-support/
[2016-08-08 21:56:12] Rado : I am trading this setup
[2016-08-08 22:22:14] HackedOnBFX : Rado: good luck bro
[2016-08-08 22:24:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 811 @ 0.01881
[2016-08-08 22:37:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 550 @ 0.01884
[2016-08-08 22:59:09] Tetsuo : Go ETH go
[2016-08-08 22:59:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 3001 @ 0.01911
[2016-08-08 23:00:12] Mm bot : Tetsuo: patience paid off, go ETH
[2016-08-08 23:07:07] jesperf : dayum boi
[2016-08-09 00:10:01] imansyu : Hello all
[2016-08-09 00:10:14] imansyu : What about ETC trend?
[2016-08-09 00:10:20] imansyu : Buy or sell
[2016-08-09 00:12:07] ixess : everyone buying etc
[2016-08-09 00:13:33] ixess : i think etc will go to .0042 or .0043 and then down
[2016-08-09 00:18:07] imansyu : ixess: thank for your information sir
[2016-08-09 00:30:23] Rado : I think ETC is going to anywhere from 0.007 to 0.01
[2016-08-09 00:51:38] b020714 : problems with the site?
[2016-08-09 00:59:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 300 @ 0.01925
[2016-08-09 01:25:10] BitMEX_Sam : b020714: Not seeing any issues, what problems are you experiencing?
[2016-08-09 01:25:50] BitMEX_Sam : Crypto Trader Digest almost finished, you guys will like this one.
[2016-08-09 01:26:18] donkey : BitMEX_Sam: mobile website is not working
[2016-08-09 01:26:35] BitMEX_Sam : Phone/browser?
[2016-08-09 01:27:25] donkey : samsung s7 default browser
[2016-08-09 01:27:44] donkey : after login it shows bitmex logo nothing else
[2016-08-09 01:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm not seeing this at all - will try the default browser
[2016-08-09 01:28:05] BitMEX_Sam : Please try Chrome/Firefox for mobile
[2016-08-09 01:28:09] donkey : ok
[2016-08-09 01:34:17] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: Ya'll need a proofreader? I'm pretty good at spotting typos and I always find a bunch lurking in the digests
[2016-08-09 01:34:36] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Yeah there are sometimes a few. We have more eyes on this one
[2016-08-09 01:35:02] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the offer but we're just putting more guys internally on it to make sure it's spic&span
[2016-08-09 01:35:28] jesperf : Good :)
[2016-08-09 01:51:13] jesperf : ugh, reddit is having problems.. might as well sleep then :(
[2016-08-09 02:15:58] BitMEX_Sam : donkey: Did that fix the issue for you?
[2016-08-09 02:26:53] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: good digest! I found only one misplaced apostrophe ;)
[2016-08-09 02:27:06] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Haha then you're just as much of a grammar nazi as I am.
[2016-08-09 02:27:29] jesperf : I'm a coder too. I think that goes with the job.
[2016-08-09 02:31:29] BitMEX_Sam : It might. Everything in its right place
[2016-08-09 02:34:35] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: you were right about the Crypto Trader Digest :)
[2016-08-09 02:51:59] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9375 @ 580.11
[2016-08-09 02:52:39] Chimpindeed : whats this now?
[2016-08-09 02:53:18] habibi : Well, we know Bitfinex isn't helping out. Zane Tackett, Bitfinex’s community manager and spokesperson, confirmed that Bitfinex itself will not contribute one Satoshi or USD to helping to reduce the tax. Scandalous. When did he actually said that?