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[2016-08-08 04:25:34] willybot : zanza: I wouldnt joke about this. Im trying to let this go but if im pissed enough I will go ahead
[2016-08-08 04:25:50] zanza : it doesn't matter to me what you do :)
[2016-08-08 04:26:09] willybot : zanza: If you want liquidity then it surely will
[2016-08-08 04:31:10] zanza : i would like to help you understand the system here, because I think its a cool site but
[2016-08-08 04:31:27] willybot : zanza: I have figured it out
[2016-08-08 04:32:06] zanza : ?
[2016-08-08 04:32:13] willybot : It is just unethical they operate the bots and dont disclose.
[2016-08-08 04:33:26] willybot : about to clear polo ETC books lets see how ETC7D plays up
[2016-08-08 04:33:28] zanza : every other site in town does it
[2016-08-08 04:49:33] Mm bot : willybot: how to clear polo book?
[2016-08-08 04:49:58] zanza : he is a whale trader
[2016-08-08 04:55:36] willybot : mmm. So the only way to make a decent buck is through to closing of the contract out of bitmex pocket
[2016-08-08 04:57:08] willybot : If I open a position here the spread will close against me
[2016-08-08 04:57:53] willybot : Im going to spend a week or two and compile the data.
[2016-08-08 05:01:59] zanza : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-07/first-bitcoin-bail-all-bitfinex-users-lose-36-shared-loss-after-historic-hack
[2016-08-08 05:06:48] willybot : btc about to take a hit
[2016-08-08 05:24:27] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4wmg2n/ethdev_sold_129k_etc/
[2016-08-08 05:48:18] zanza : congrats on entry Rado
[2016-08-08 05:51:10] VenCap : huge margins on etc vs polo price
[2016-08-08 05:51:23] VenCap : 386 top buy on polo 360 here....
[2016-08-08 05:56:19] willybot : VenCap: its a joke
[2016-08-08 05:56:39] VenCap : its very odd, like not many people use this site or something.
[2016-08-08 05:57:46] willybot : VenCap: bitmex run the bot and will destroy any trader dumb enough to enter over a 0.1 btc position
[2016-08-08 05:58:09] willybot : there are no traders on the market only bitmex
[2016-08-08 05:58:20] VenCap : i see.
[2016-08-08 05:58:28] VenCap : where else can you margin trade etc?
[2016-08-08 05:58:45] willybot : VenCap: bitfinex lol
[2016-08-08 05:59:07] VenCap : oh god... really odd polo dont margin trade it.
[2016-08-08 05:59:10] willybot : VenCap: Ive asked busoni at polo to open it up next week so I think they will
[2016-08-08 05:59:32] willybot : once that gets going we are in safe hands
[2016-08-08 05:59:46] VenCap : they will probably open it when they know for sure the direction it will take.
[2016-08-08 05:59:59] VenCap : willybot, whats withdraws like here? any problems?
[2016-08-08 06:00:11] VenCap : just reading some reviews.....
[2016-08-08 06:01:22] zanza : if you write bad reviews they block your withdrawals
[2016-08-08 06:02:21] willybot : VenCap: no known issues yet. Your problem is your trading against bitmex and they know your stops
[2016-08-08 06:02:23] VenCap : i dont write reviews. i was just readng them. and so far i really like the site
[2016-08-08 06:03:02] zanza : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking make sure to read this
[2016-08-08 06:03:11] zanza : new people get confused quite often about the price marking
[2016-08-08 06:03:35] willybot : VenCap: I honestly would not recommend it but have a play with some coins
[2016-08-08 06:05:17] VenCap : spot on.
[2016-08-08 06:05:43] willybot : VenCap: were did you come from?
[2016-08-08 06:05:55] VenCap : where did i come from?
[2016-08-08 06:06:06] zanza : Europe, Africa, USA ?
[2016-08-08 06:06:09] willybot : VenCap: yeah what other xchg
[2016-08-08 06:06:42] VenCap : ah, Europe.
[2016-08-08 06:07:00] VenCap : home to all the crazy bstrds
[2016-08-08 06:08:04] VenCap : i wish the vol was better here. Way too low.
[2016-08-08 06:08:23] zanza : If you want to trade like a spot market, choose the "perpetual products" like XBT
[2016-08-08 06:08:24] willybot : VenCap: I told you. Its Bitmex trading against themselves.
[2016-08-08 06:08:46] zanza : "Perpetual Swap"
[2016-08-08 06:08:51] willybot : VenCap: @zanza works here. Hes the resident shill
[2016-08-08 06:09:08] VenCap : it cant all be 100% bots
[2016-08-08 06:09:19] VenCap : no, i just want to trade ETC. :O)
[2016-08-08 06:09:39] willybot : VenCap: theres a handful of traders but good luck
[2016-08-08 06:10:04] VenCap : yeah. need to promote it more here on twitter and such :O)
[2016-08-08 06:10:20] VenCap : and considering its the only place to margin trade ETC should be much more popular.
[2016-08-08 06:10:59] zanza : there is a high learning curve
[2016-08-08 06:11:09] zanza : and its not new user friendly
[2016-08-08 06:11:46] willybot : VenCap: I know a few that came through but the low liquididty and dodgy books moved them along pretty quick
[2016-08-08 06:11:48] miramm1115 : ETC7D is very difficult to MM properly right now, so there is only one MM with smallish quotes and strong short bias
[2016-08-08 06:12:03] zanza : there is a testnet also you can do test trader
[2016-08-08 06:12:06] willybot : trading up to and over 3k sat spread on ETC is a waste of time
[2016-08-08 06:12:18] ggwp : long ETC now come back in year . . . account drained
[2016-08-08 06:12:42] miramm1115 : it will get better if/when polo enables margin trading
[2016-08-08 06:13:07] ggwp : polo is gonna exit scam soonish
[2016-08-08 06:13:10] zanza : does polo have margin trading on any crypto ?
[2016-08-08 06:13:10] willybot : miramm1115: it wont get better here. Everyone goes to polo.
[2016-08-08 06:13:18] willybot : zanza: ofc
[2016-08-08 06:13:21] ggwp : mark my word
[2016-08-08 06:14:18] willybot : ggwp: marked.
[2016-08-08 06:17:57] zanza : anyone help me how to deposit fake money on testnet?
[2016-08-08 06:23:42] Rado : zanza: you need to use bitcoin faucet
[2016-08-08 06:23:56] zanza : ehh?
[2016-08-08 06:24:36] Rado : http://easybitcoinfaucet.com/
[2016-08-08 06:24:39] zanza : oh, i found it
[2016-08-08 06:24:40] zanza : thanks
[2016-08-08 06:24:43] Rado : np
[2016-08-08 06:27:27] zanza : i want to run some malicious MM strategies
[2016-08-08 06:27:34] zanza : to see if I can profit from willybot
[2016-08-08 06:27:46] zanza : :)
[2016-08-08 06:27:57] willybot : zanza: goodluck.
[2016-08-08 06:28:08] zanza : its just testnet for now
[2016-08-08 06:29:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 1 @ 60555.0 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-08 06:29:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 500 @ 0.003790
[2016-08-08 06:30:07] willybot : If this place didnt have a %6 spread I would have taken most of your monies by now
[2016-08-08 06:30:36] willybot : Arthur would be bankrupt scratching for customer funds to pay rent
[2016-08-08 06:31:50] zanza : yeah and Sam would be giving handjobs for heroin
[2016-08-08 06:32:42] willybot : zanza: nah, we have use for him but I wont say no to a wristy
[2016-08-08 06:35:55] Rado : willybot: I can lend you some BTC so you can trade
[2016-08-08 06:36:44] Tetsuo : willybot: are u still crying around?
[2016-08-08 06:36:56] Tetsuo : for more than 10hours now?
[2016-08-08 06:37:07] willybot : Rado: yeah sure. just deposit to my okcoin
[2016-08-08 06:37:11] Tetsuo : u got rekt coz of n00b trading , end of story
[2016-08-08 06:37:28] willybot : Tetsuo: lol you just got back sit down and stay quite.
[2016-08-08 06:37:43] Rado : Tetsuo: he has been wining all day
[2016-08-08 06:37:51] Tetsuo : : - D
[2016-08-08 06:37:55] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-08 06:38:18] Rado : I just sold ETC 0.0038 from 0.0034
[2016-08-08 06:38:27] Rado : this is how you trade ETC willybot
[2016-08-08 06:38:35] Tetsuo : like a boss
[2016-08-08 06:39:08] willybot : Rado: I just sold at 395 on polo from 346
[2016-08-08 06:39:58] Rado : I was trading XBTUSD, but willybot challenged me that ETC is not tradable
[2016-08-08 06:40:16] willybot : Rado: lmao you cant school me on ETC or ETH.
[2016-08-08 06:40:30] Tetsuo : well the mm bot schooled you didn´t he?
[2016-08-08 06:40:38] zanza : it was Arthur
[2016-08-08 06:40:44] Tetsuo : lured you into a n00b trap
[2016-08-08 06:40:52] willybot : Tetsuo: no. Arthurs MM bot raped me
[2016-08-08 06:41:05] Tetsuo : yeah sure
[2016-08-08 06:41:36] willybot : its not his bot its his other sidekick that made it
[2016-08-08 06:43:14] zanza : anyone run Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[2016-08-08 06:44:32] ayy_lmao : wut
[2016-08-08 06:44:36] ayy_lmao : "bot raped me"
[2016-08-08 06:44:49] macios15 : finex online? since when
[2016-08-08 06:45:02] ayy_lmao : shit bitmex trolboxers say
[2016-08-08 06:49:16] zanza : rado you still long ?
[2016-08-08 06:49:36] zanza : on that etc
[2016-08-08 06:52:48] Rado : zanza: sold
[2016-08-08 06:53:22] Rado : zanza: I upgraded from 14.04 and I had some issues
[2016-08-08 06:53:27] Rado : i reversed
[2016-08-08 06:53:46] Rado : will try again when I have more time
[2016-08-08 07:00:00] VenCap : its like judgement day in here... you cant beat the Bots!
[2016-08-08 07:00:13] VenCap : we need Arnie! Everyone get to the Chopper!
[2016-08-08 07:54:32] elmorte : 2600 BFX token....muthafckn cnts...
[2016-08-08 07:54:47] elmorte : rabid, how'd you go?
[2016-08-08 08:00:29] aethlios : bitmex prepare to add bitfinex coin contract.
[2016-08-08 08:11:28] cenkzu : 5600 bfx
[2016-08-08 08:16:20] bernx : So today another shit day with no movement?
[2016-08-08 08:24:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 265 @ 0.003563
[2016-08-08 08:37:45] subjective : aethlios: where did you read about BFX coin contract here?
[2016-08-08 08:38:31] aethlios : subjective: I am suggesting bitmex team to create a finex contract.
[2016-08-08 08:46:59] Tetsuo : i am suggesting that they should add the pair goxcoins/finexcoins
[2016-08-08 09:28:47] zanza : Poloniex will list anything
[2016-08-08 09:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `FCTXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.002837
[2016-08-08 10:24:57] zanza : https://medium.com/@Ledger/how-to-properly-secure-cryptocurrencies-exchanges-511fe7a669a3#.zev24ac0e
[2016-08-08 10:25:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 400 @ 0.002873
[2016-08-08 10:29:38] bernx : Bitmex
[2016-08-08 10:29:42] bernx : What about FCT?
[2016-08-08 10:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.003483
[2016-08-08 10:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 29 @ 0.003518
[2016-08-08 10:44:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 50 @ 0.003501
[2016-08-08 10:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 300 @ 0.003460
[2016-08-08 10:45:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.003391
[2016-08-08 11:01:19] willybot : If your still long on ETC your about to be gutted
[2016-08-08 11:02:56] justinlooking : unless ur short a grillion contracts on polo ;)
[2016-08-08 11:04:18] lockhedge : thought there is no ETC margin trading on polo
[2016-08-08 11:04:45] willybot : justinlooking: which your not
[2016-08-08 11:04:58] justinlooking : unfortuntly not...
[2016-08-08 11:07:15] willybot : all part of the bitmex scam.
[2016-08-08 11:08:30] justinlooking : ?
[2016-08-08 11:09:33] willybot : Insider trading on the platform using MM bots to wash trades and manipulate the market
[2016-08-08 11:10:10] willybot : if you go long with some size they remove bids and squeeze
[2016-08-08 11:13:12] lockhedge : willybot: you can't expect infinite liquidity from market makers. especially if this is the only place you can short
[2016-08-08 11:13:27] justinlooking : willybot: u realize it's a future, right?
[2016-08-08 11:14:07] willybot : I know exactly what it is.
[2016-08-08 11:15:02] lockhedge : why are you surprised that a future trades at a discount to spot?
[2016-08-08 11:15:27] willybot : lockhedge: I am not.
[2016-08-08 11:18:20] ayy_lmao : there is no scam
[2016-08-08 11:18:26] ayy_lmao : thats how market makers make money
[2016-08-08 11:18:28] ayy_lmao : trading 101
[2016-08-08 11:21:32] lockhedge : market makers are not allowed to manipulate price or liquidity, so "removing bids" with the intention to "squeeze" longs would be illegal
[2016-08-08 11:22:09] lockhedge : but willybot does not present any evidence
[2016-08-08 11:23:33] bernx : http://imgur.com/u2YU9KE
[2016-08-08 11:29:15] rapidtrades : lockhedge: did u have funds at finex?
[2016-08-08 11:29:38] rapidtrades : who had funds over there? whats' ur play?
[2016-08-08 11:31:45] willybot : rapidtrades: Once I get what I can out then I'll make a move
[2016-08-08 11:32:02] rapidtrades : and how do u plan to 'get out'
[2016-08-08 11:32:15] rapidtrades : cos most of my shit is in USD and im not verified
[2016-08-08 11:32:41] lockhedge : rapidtrades: only have a few pennies left there
[2016-08-08 11:32:49] willybot : rapidtrades: Im not sure yet. The next two weeks will be interesting
[2016-08-08 11:32:58] habibi : rapidtrades: trading will be enabled probally at same time as withdraws
[2016-08-08 11:33:07] lockhedge : rapidtrades: if you can, get verified
[2016-08-08 11:33:11] rapidtrades : yeah and btc will skyrocket
[2016-08-08 11:33:32] willybot : rapidtrades: all USD dumed into BTC for the flight
[2016-08-08 11:33:44] lockhedge : a lot of unverified ppl will try to buy BTC, probably high premium at finex
[2016-08-08 11:33:53] habibi : rapidtrades: so hedge it before.
[2016-08-08 11:34:01] rapidtrades : lockhedge: ur right i should hand over 2 Ids and 2 proof of residence to a company that just got hacked for 70mil
[2016-08-08 11:34:18] rapidtrades : habibi: spike will be finex only dummy
[2016-08-08 11:35:17] habibi : ur loss is about 1 btc? u said sth about 3 btc in total as balance
[2016-08-08 11:35:52] rapidtrades : yeah and ton of usd
[2016-08-08 11:36:04] rapidtrades : so no my loss is not only 3 btc
[2016-08-08 11:36:47] rapidtrades : we have to sue, 90% of ppl were long over therer and are happy to rape us
[2016-08-08 11:37:20] rapidtrades : also it appears ameros are not getting haircutted on their USD
[2016-08-08 11:37:32] rapidtrades : and they're likely making deals with whales
[2016-08-08 11:37:49] habibi : hehehe so much fud here :D
[2016-08-08 11:37:55] rapidtrades : it's better overall to just force them into bakruptsy and have a chance at fair settlement
[2016-08-08 11:39:34] habibi : what additional funds will be recoverable thru bankruptcy and why u really think it will be worth more than actual state after years of lawyers work, liquidators and stuff like that? As a unverified user u will be on the very bottom of queue to get paid back.
[2016-08-08 11:39:55] rapidtrades : i just told u dummy
[2016-08-08 11:40:07] rapidtrades : i don't trust them to give me a fair settlement
[2016-08-08 11:40:17] rapidtrades : THEIR ENTIRE NET WORTH IS LAIBLE
[2016-08-08 11:40:25] rapidtrades : they showed gross negligence
[2016-08-08 11:40:52] miramm1115 : rapidtrades: plus in most cases directors are personally liable
[2016-08-08 11:41:25] rapidtrades : plus deceptive marketing
[2016-08-08 11:41:38] rapidtrades : we thought they only had 0.5% in hot wallet
[2016-08-08 11:41:42] rapidtrades : NOT EVERYTHING
[2016-08-08 11:42:54] rapidtrades : also bankruptsy is the only shot we have of ever getting fully repaid
[2016-08-08 11:43:14] rapidtrades : competent management may buy them up
[2016-08-08 11:43:31] habibi : Lol, u deluded. Good luck with that
[2016-08-08 11:43:47] rapidtrades : how am I deluded? watch me bitch
[2016-08-08 11:44:29] rapidtrades : do i have to pay to make a new subreddt
[2016-08-08 11:45:33] lockhedge : no, it's free
[2016-08-08 11:45:40] rapidtrades : so how
[2016-08-08 11:47:09] lockhedge : https://www.reddit.com/subreddits/create
[2016-08-08 11:47:29] rapidtrades : yeah tnx
[2016-08-08 11:48:54] lockhedge : you might get much more visibility with a simple post to /r/BitcoinMarkets https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/submit?selftext=true
[2016-08-08 11:50:30] rapidtrades : f*Ck em, they're downvoting everything
[2016-08-08 11:51:11] habibi : don't worry, u tried really hard
[2016-08-08 11:51:55] rapidtrades : bitch, watch me
[2016-08-08 11:54:34] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 11:54:39] rapidtrades : sub that bitch
[2016-08-08 11:55:27] habibi : Amazing
[2016-08-08 11:56:40] rapidtrades : this is the only way to force them into bankruptsy
[2016-08-08 11:56:58] habibi : And lost ur money for ever :)
[2016-08-08 11:57:00] ggwp : bancryptsy?
[2016-08-08 11:57:17] rapidtrades : they werer still profitable and with new management they could make us whole
[2016-08-08 11:58:29] habibi : If u ever into math u would know how long would them take to recover that loss if only 100% profit would go for that
[2016-08-08 11:58:35] habibi : 100% earnings *
[2016-08-08 11:58:56] rapidtrades : 5 years at this years voume
[2016-08-08 11:59:14] habibi : As i said, if u would ever into math...
[2016-08-08 11:59:30] rapidtrades : also...i intend to get 90% back since my USD was not hacked
[2016-08-08 12:00:14] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCXBT`: Buy 1098 @ 0.00643
[2016-08-08 12:01:21] habibi : And at same time u wanna bankruptcy and liquidation of company assets then recover ur share of that
[2016-08-08 12:01:22] habibi : LOL
[2016-08-08 12:02:54] rapidtrades : yeah like i said, i get 90% then rest from earnings
[2016-08-08 12:03:37] habibi : :D
[2016-08-08 12:03:50] rapidtrades : this 'haircut' is a bad deal for anyone that had mostly USD over there
[2016-08-08 12:04:36] rapidtrades : i'm not subsidizing perpetually long kids
[2016-08-08 12:04:55] habibi : Of course, so go sue them and liquidate. I bet u will get better deal than that :D
[2016-08-08 12:05:20] rapidtrades : they would be better offf under my plan anyway since they won't be able to trade away their assets, it wil be locked
[2016-08-08 12:05:29] rapidtrades : ^longers
[2016-08-08 12:06:08] rapidtrades : habibi: what do u suggest then? they're incompetent...they can't repays us
[2016-08-08 12:06:13] rapidtrades : this didn't even offer shares lol
[2016-08-08 12:06:20] habibi : Oh, Dear Court i wanna speculate on Btc assets as most of my holdings were in USD and thats why i am here, but please Court don't liquidate these btcs until btc> 2000 usd
[2016-08-08 12:07:02] rapidtrades : some worthless token that may 'possibly' convert to shares if 'finex allows it'
[2016-08-08 12:07:04] rapidtrades : it's a joke
[2016-08-08 12:07:10] rapidtrades : they're not contributing anything
[2016-08-08 12:07:19] rapidtrades : did u listen to zane interview?
[2016-08-08 12:07:23] rapidtrades : they're idiots
[2016-08-08 12:08:23] rapidtrades : not only that but they want to restart their compnay WITHOUT MAKING ANY PERSONAL SACRIFICES
[2016-08-08 12:08:28] rapidtrades : unacceptable
[2016-08-08 12:08:38] rapidtrades : force them out, get better team
[2016-08-08 12:09:34] rapidtrades : bankruptcy, liquidation, restructuring etc...there are plenty of options here
[2016-08-08 12:11:35] habibi : In all of these cases u will get less, i promise u. Now they looking for investors, small chance they find one, but if they will u will recover more or maybe 100%. In case of bankruptcy/liquidation its all dead, noone want to buy such company just to fill ur pockets, its better to hire some of ex employees and start a new one, better one.
[2016-08-08 12:14:57] rapidtrades : u can't promise me shit dude
[2016-08-08 12:15:01] rapidtrades : ur not a lawyer
[2016-08-08 12:16:30] rapidtrades : they would restructure....it's not a black and white choice like they're presenting
[2016-08-08 12:16:31] lockhedge : habibi: why should anyone invest in their company? they are facing multiple law suits and their tech is worthless
[2016-08-08 12:17:02] rapidtrades : so BVI is the place to sue o what
[2016-08-08 12:17:05] rapidtrades : HK?
[2016-08-08 12:18:19] habibi : lockhedge: don't know, pure speculation but lets say invest, a lot of internal changes in finex/stuff, and trying to expand as much as possible their bussinesses.
[2016-08-08 12:20:42] rapidtrades : exactly, restructuring would be the goal..they're profitable and with new management will do ok
[2016-08-08 12:20:50] rapidtrades : they were n1 before hack
[2016-08-08 12:21:01] rapidtrades : new management, new coders etc
[2016-08-08 12:21:22] habibi : once again they not making that much money as u think
[2016-08-08 12:21:52] rapidtrades : yeah cos they're incompetent
[2016-08-08 12:22:36] lockhedge : rapidtrades: afaik for insolvency proceedings it should be the BVI, criminal proceedings most likely HK as principle place of business
[2016-08-08 12:22:38] rapidtrades : plus do u really trust finex to do the asset clawback fairly?
[2016-08-08 12:22:46] rapidtrades : i don't trust them one bit
[2016-08-08 12:24:27] rapidtrades : lockhedge: tnx
[2016-08-08 12:25:03] rapidtrades : post any info about potential lawsuit here https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 12:25:16] rapidtrades : laws that would apply, tos etc
[2016-08-08 12:25:26] rapidtrades : i need to eat smth getting a headache
[2016-08-08 12:27:09] habibi : Bon Apetite Deer
[2016-08-08 12:58:55] rapidtrades : i can't post a text post on r/bitcoin?
[2016-08-08 13:18:43] zanza : why ?
[2016-08-08 13:45:31] laisee : BFX for sale
[2016-08-08 14:13:33] men : whats the news for factom?
[2016-08-08 14:18:08] bernx : parthen ship
[2016-08-08 14:20:06] HackedOnBFX : hey guys
[2016-08-08 14:20:30] laisee : HackedOnBFX: hacked off?
[2016-08-08 14:20:59] zanza : @HackedOnBFX please read the https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking guide before you start trading here
[2016-08-08 14:21:36] zanza : some new traders are experience butthurt
[2016-08-08 14:22:21] HackedOnBFX : zanza: thanks for that bro
[2016-08-08 14:22:36] HackedOnBFX : I already made a pretty awesome trade but I'll definitely give it a read
[2016-08-08 14:22:57] zanza : good luck
[2016-08-08 14:24:03] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: Hi, welcome to BitMEX. Let me know if you have any questions
[2016-08-08 14:24:22] HackedOnBFX : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks!
[2016-08-08 14:25:42] HackedOnBFX : Have you guys seen a bunch of new people since bitfinex shindig?
[2016-08-08 14:27:53] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: We have seen a few new users come aboard, since we are one of the only places to trade with leverage now
[2016-08-08 14:29:43] HackedOnBFX : BitMEX_Greg: I don't think I fully understand the fees
[2016-08-08 14:29:57] HackedOnBFX : I heard on reddit there is a 1% fee per day
[2016-08-08 14:30:06] HackedOnBFX : But I don't see anything about that on the fees page.
[2016-08-08 14:32:15] zanza : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2016-08-08 14:32:35] zanza : XBTUSD is a XBT/USD swap contract priced on the .XBT Index. Each contract is worth $1 of Bitcoin. Funding is paid and received every 8 hours. The next payout event is at 13:00 (20:00 UTC). XBTUSD uses a Premium Index to calculate funding rates.
[2016-08-08 14:32:53] aaa : HackedOnBFX: there is no dayly fee
[2016-08-08 14:33:21] aaa : daily
[2016-08-08 14:33:42] BitMEX_Greg : HackedOnBFX: We have funding per contract. Given the large selloff last week we did see some funding rates go as high as 1% per day, but that is usually not standard. It depends what position you have also. Last week longs received the funding while shorts paid the funding.
[2016-08-08 14:34:17] BitMEX_Greg : BitMEX does not receive any of the funding. It is purely long vs short, dependent upon how the market is moving with respect to the underlying index
[2016-08-08 14:34:34] BitMEX_Greg : Take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide for further examples
[2016-08-08 14:36:44] nip : BitMEX_Greg: does BitMEX or any of its employees trade or place orders on this exchange?
[2016-08-08 14:36:57] willybot : nip: They run the MM bots
[2016-08-08 14:43:50] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: Answer the question greg.
[2016-08-08 14:45:33] BitMEX_Wally : willybot: BitMEX and its employees only trade on testnet
[2016-08-08 14:46:46] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: Dont lie to your customers.
[2016-08-08 14:50:40] BitMEX_Greg : nip: As per Wally, we do not trade here at all.
[2016-08-08 14:50:58] zanza : willybot: lost money, therefore the system must be rigged against him
[2016-08-08 14:51:37] willybot : Ive actually made money. But I am aware that Bitmex operate the MM bots.
[2016-08-08 14:52:04] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: don't u think its better to change etc contract back to daily as long as there are no other margin trading outside bmex?
[2016-08-08 14:52:24] willybot : habibi: No incentive for them
[2016-08-08 14:53:58] habibi : willybot: i am not talking with u as long as u not deliver any proof for ur speculations
[2016-08-08 14:55:34] willybot : habibi: There are a number of people working on these claims. When its all together you will be well aware.
[2016-08-08 14:57:11] nip : BitMEX_Wally: @BitMEX_Greg: Thanks for clearing that up.
[2016-08-08 14:57:40] willybot : BitMEX_Wally: Hi Wally, do you have a social profile or link in we can see?
[2016-08-08 14:57:51] zanza : habibi: he saw the orders get pulled, what more proff do you need?
[2016-08-08 14:58:22] willybot : zanza: dont be a smart ass zanza
[2016-08-08 15:07:25] zanza : new risk limit?
[2016-08-08 15:08:01] nip : wow those are low
[2016-08-08 15:10:04] zanza : so 50x leverage at 200btc, 25x leverage at 300 btc 12.5 leverageg at 400 btc
[2016-08-08 15:11:19] zanza : the email doesn't match the risk page
[2016-08-08 15:12:23] zanza : i guess makes it harder to abuse the leverage adjustment stop trick
[2016-08-08 15:12:26] Rado : I much rather talk about improving the system and attracting more MMs
[2016-08-08 15:13:01] Rado : tired of this pointing fingers without any basis
[2016-08-08 15:13:25] Rado : BitMEX guys I thought you have a system where everything gets audited
[2016-08-08 15:13:54] zanza : rado ?
[2016-08-08 15:14:05] BitMEX_Greg : zanza: The risk page is yet to be updated. We wanted to put it in the email first.
[2016-08-08 15:14:27] BitMEX_Greg : Rado: Everything is audited
[2016-08-08 15:15:16] Rado : then can you provide willybot with logs so he stops talking about this
[2016-08-08 15:15:33] Rado : I like this chat to be about community helping each other become better traders
[2016-08-08 15:16:32] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: i would love to third party audit. Thats a great idea @Rado
[2016-08-08 15:17:38] willybot : I'll be honest. I dgaf if they run the bots as long as hey dont bs.
[2016-08-08 15:21:35] zanza : what logs to show? the recent trads panel shows all trade history
[2016-08-08 15:22:28] zanza : i doubt they record logs of pulled orders
[2016-08-08 15:23:19] willybot : zanza: I think im going to enjoy this now
[2016-08-08 15:25:46] justinlooking : they absolutely do have logs of pulled orders
[2016-08-08 15:26:37] zanza : willy is claiming bitmex themslves pulled orders
[2016-08-08 15:26:47] zanza : so, you cna't prove WHO pulled the order
[2016-08-08 15:27:16] zanza : without revealing other trader personal info
[2016-08-08 15:27:55] zanza : btw think Finex going to bankruptsy 100%
[2016-08-08 15:28:53] jesperf : seriously guys. market makers are running bots. bitmex provides a sample for this so anyone can be a MM if one is so inclined. are you angry that they decide to pull orders based on activity in the orderbooks?
[2016-08-08 15:29:12] willybot : look. I wont bring it up again. There are a few working on compiling and they will get inside everything they need.
[2016-08-08 15:29:38] jesperf : take the blue pill wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe
[2016-08-08 15:30:21] willybot : One thing I cant get over is how dumb you all are
[2016-08-08 15:30:37] jesperf : you should be happy for that
[2016-08-08 15:30:54] zanza : willy, the only way you could prove it, is if you hacked their servers/code and see they are actually running a MM
[2016-08-08 15:31:16] willybot : well its good but you dont have enough btc
[2016-08-08 15:31:34] willybot : zanza: wow your a genius
[2016-08-08 15:31:56] HackedOnBFX : hey keep it civil!
[2016-08-08 15:32:24] willybot : HackedOnBFX: im sorry I come from beyond I really am trying to adjust
[2016-08-08 15:32:44] HackedOnBFX : beyond?
[2016-08-08 15:33:03] jesperf : this chat is butterflies and rainbows compared to other trollboxes
[2016-08-08 15:33:13] jesperf : <3 <3 <3
[2016-08-08 15:33:14] willybot : HackedOnBFX: hard to explain
[2016-08-08 15:33:29] HackedOnBFX : jesperf: very true
[2016-08-08 15:34:01] willybot : If it was called a chatbox I would better know how to behave
[2016-08-08 15:34:47] wotan : jesperf agree:)
[2016-08-08 15:39:29] HackedOnBFX : so whats stopping me from selling the sept 30th contract and buying the perpetual swap and profiting from the premium?
[2016-08-08 15:40:29] zanza : so you admit you are trolling with this MM business?
[2016-08-08 15:41:07] zanza : thr perpetual swap premum changes
[2016-08-08 15:41:24] willybot : zanza: no Im not trolling
[2016-08-08 15:41:33] HackedOnBFX : zanza: the perp swap is 585 and sept 30th is 625
[2016-08-08 15:41:44] willybot : HackedOnBFX: dont tell everyone. exe
[2016-08-08 15:41:55] HackedOnBFX : could I not risk-free sell the sept 30th and buy the perp swap?
[2016-08-08 15:42:21] HackedOnBFX : would the fees eat into the profit?
[2016-08-08 15:43:09] zanza : the perpetual has a negative premium now, and the sept positive, so you can trade that contango they call it
[2016-08-08 15:44:02] Rado : I wish I was a MOD in this chat so I can ban this imbecile
[2016-08-08 15:45:03] zanza : HackedOnBFX: its not as simple as it seem,s but im tired and can't think it through
[2016-08-08 15:49:24] bernx : Rado: which one?
[2016-08-08 15:50:58] habibi : rapidtrades: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wqs3u/announcement_regarding_reports_about_bitfinex_not/
[2016-08-08 15:51:51] willybot : Rado: o/
[2016-08-08 15:59:35] zanza : who knows what to believe habibi
[2016-08-08 16:10:15] lockhedge : HackedOnBFX: XBTU16 is a quanto futures contract, it's riskier to short (premium might become very high with high volatility)
[2016-08-08 16:10:55] lockhedge : HackedOnBFX: this blog post explains very well how quantos and inverse contracts behave https://blog.bitmex.com/xbt-vs-xbu-chain/
[2016-08-08 17:10:12] justinlooking : rETC time?
[2016-08-08 18:24:42] Rado : all markets stuck right now
[2016-08-08 18:24:47] Rado : BTC, ETH, ETC
[2016-08-08 18:25:02] Rado : need some news to get things going one way or another
[2016-08-08 18:33:11] justinlooking : yeh v stagnant
[2016-08-08 18:58:00] jesperf : i've got some bad news
[2016-08-08 18:59:53] Rado : jesperf: what's up?
[2016-08-08 18:59:58] jesperf : we're all going to die!
[2016-08-08 19:00:07] Rado : that's old news
[2016-08-08 19:05:20] wotan : what you guys think about kim dotcoms bitcache?
[2016-08-08 19:05:50] wotan : he says bitcoin 2000 dollar in 2017:)
[2016-08-08 19:05:54] jesperf : seriously cool idea
[2016-08-08 19:06:11] wotan : i think too
[2016-08-08 19:06:24] jesperf : that's a pretty radical estimate though :) we're going up all right, but not so fast
[2016-08-08 19:07:47] wotan : yes lets see no one can say it
[2016-08-08 19:15:28] Rado : I love the idea of micro transactions using bitcoin, but not for file uploads
[2016-08-08 19:15:37] Rado : there are so many industries that can benefit from this
[2016-08-08 19:15:46] Rado : he is doing it fo rfile uploads because that is his business
[2016-08-08 19:15:53] Rado : I personally think it wil not work there
[2016-08-08 19:16:25] Rado : The reason he had so many users is because everything was free and illegal
[2016-08-08 19:16:32] Rado : make it paid and no one will touch it
[2016-08-08 19:16:53] Rado : unless he makes deals with the content providers like Netflix is doing
[2016-08-08 19:17:12] jesperf : it's "paid" but the transactions are so small that they will feel like free
[2016-08-08 19:17:16] Rado : I would buy a movie in a hearth beat if it cost me 0.50 to watch it
[2016-08-08 19:17:26] jesperf : no, of course he's catering to the pirates and porn junkies
[2016-08-08 19:17:36] Rado : jesperf: users will not setup Bitcoin wallets so they can download a file
[2016-08-08 19:17:55] Rado : and they need to put BTC in their wallet
[2016-08-08 19:18:08] Rado : I don't know, fo rme something is missing
[2016-08-08 19:18:11] jesperf : i think a lot of pirates and pornies already have btc
[2016-08-08 19:18:36] Rado : but he is expecting this to be a killer service with million of users
[2016-08-08 20:06:49] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4wpyrn/bfx_socialised_loss_confirmed_by_uk_police_cyber/
[2016-08-08 20:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.003243
[2016-08-08 20:38:33] HackedOnBFX : lol i like how the bot is named rekt
[2016-08-08 20:42:00] rapidtrades : sup homies
[2016-08-08 20:42:17] justinlooking : o/
[2016-08-08 20:43:35] rapidtrades : verified americans will leave with USD 0 losses
[2016-08-08 20:43:39] rapidtrades : isn't that sweet
[2016-08-08 20:43:52] habibi : and u are one of them?
[2016-08-08 20:43:55] rapidtrades : whales will get shares
[2016-08-08 20:44:11] rapidtrades : while the rest of us plebians GET F*cKED IN THE ASS
[2016-08-08 20:44:33] habibi : shares? u mean bfx coin?
[2016-08-08 20:44:54] rapidtrades : nope actual shares
[2016-08-08 20:45:16] habibi : The BFX tokens will remain outstanding until redeemed in full by Bitfinex or possibly exchanged—upon the creditor’s request and Bitfinex’s acceptance—for shares of iFinex Inc.
[2016-08-08 20:45:22] habibi : thats ur talk about?
[2016-08-08 20:45:46] rapidtrades : nope..zane said in interview that they're giving whales shares
[2016-08-08 20:46:16] rapidtrades : notice the working you have to 'ask' and they have to 'accept'
[2016-08-08 20:46:21] rapidtrades : wording
[2016-08-08 20:47:17] HackedOnBFX : im requesting shares
[2016-08-08 20:47:24] rapidtrades : Just like in Nazi Germany, the rich jews go to America while the poor get gaassed
[2016-08-08 20:47:33] rapidtrades : bitfinex=literally nazis
[2016-08-08 20:49:23] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4wocww/daily_discussion_monday_august_08_2016/d69c8p6
[2016-08-08 20:49:33] rapidtrades : smone post this to our subreddit
[2016-08-08 20:49:41] rapidtrades : im logged under diff account atm
[2016-08-08 20:50:16] HackedOnBFX : we have a subreddit?
[2016-08-08 20:50:23] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bitfinexcal/
[2016-08-08 20:50:48] habibi : isnt it coz insurance from the bank ?
[2016-08-08 20:50:57] habibi : this one particular ?
[2016-08-08 20:51:54] rapidtrades : don't know but it may mean bigger cut for rest of us
[2016-08-08 20:52:00] rapidtrades : plus shows precedent
[2016-08-08 20:52:23] habibi : if its coz of insurance then no, it doesnt matter for u
[2016-08-08 20:52:38] rapidtrades : I wonder if we can subpoena their bank to send our money directly
[2016-08-08 20:52:47] rapidtrades : it's supposed to be segregated right
[2016-08-08 20:53:29] rapidtrades : also notice how they cut off access to ur bitgo reports
[2016-08-08 20:53:47] rapidtrades : hiding their tracks so u can't see if u individually got hacked
[2016-08-08 20:54:13] rapidtrades : so now everyone thinks well maybe I got hacked so better keep my mouth shut or i could lose everything not just 36%
[2016-08-08 20:54:20] habibi : hiding their tracks :D they changing blockchain data right :D?
[2016-08-08 20:54:30] rapidtrades : also they deleted their TOS
[2016-08-08 20:55:04] rapidtrades : habibi: i checked mine out, nothing moved...problem is the 3 addresses u see were (According to zane) part of much bigger wallet
[2016-08-08 20:55:40] rapidtrades : so u can't really tell just by the blockchain, cos u don't know what addresses to look up now without the bitgo reports
[2016-08-08 20:55:52] habibi : u will get them no worries
[2016-08-08 20:56:02] rapidtrades : i know i will
[2016-08-08 20:56:17] danilo : etc?
[2016-08-08 21:00:47] HackedOnBFX : danilo: etc the best thing thats happened to me since btc went to 775
[2016-08-08 21:01:15] HackedOnBFX : You playin the short or long game?
[2016-08-08 21:03:33] rapidtrades : how do ppl attach photos on steemit?
[2016-08-08 21:10:26] lockhedge : Gatecoin re-launched post hack with an instrument called ETD (ETH debt) https://blog.gatecoin.com/update-on-re-launch-of-trading-platform-aug-5-804754f255aa#.l706wiove
[2016-08-08 21:10:47] lockhedge : "On re-launch, all ETH holders affected by the hack will be eligible to withdraw 10% of their funds in ETH. The remaining 90% in ETH balances will be listed as ETD (ETH debt) on client balances."
[2016-08-08 21:11:39] rapidtrades : interesting
[2016-08-08 21:12:14] rapidtrades : these smaller exchanges can get away with a lot cos crypto ppl are dumb as bricks
[2016-08-08 21:17:36] rapidtrades : bitfinex must know that ppl will sue....so what's their play here?
[2016-08-08 21:17:55] habibi : they werent aware that u will sue them as well
[2016-08-08 21:17:59] rapidtrades : to throw their hands in the air and say we tried by evil gubernant came in to stop us
[2016-08-08 21:18:11] rapidtrades : habibi: oh don't worry, im working on my email
[2016-08-08 21:18:27] habibi : email...sounds scary
[2016-08-08 21:18:43] elmorte : you know you gotta use fax or gtfo
[2016-08-08 21:18:47] rapidtrades : how else are u gonna contact a company in HK
[2016-08-08 21:19:11] habibi : i heard u were talking sth about laywers and stuff like that? u dont want to do it anymore?
[2016-08-08 21:19:15] elmorte : Make sure you request or a read receipt
[2016-08-08 21:19:26] rapidtrades : habibi: u don't go nuclear in step 1 man
[2016-08-08 21:19:36] rapidtrades : elmorte: can u do that on google
[2016-08-08 21:20:44] elmorte : only for Google Apps for Work, Education, and Government customers. They are not available in personal Gmail accounts :/
[2016-08-08 21:20:53] rapidtrades : greeeat
[2016-08-08 21:21:02] rapidtrades : so how much does that cost
[2016-08-08 21:21:17] elmorte : lol...
[2016-08-08 21:21:30] habibi : btw pos page link rapid?
[2016-08-08 21:21:47] rapidtrades : WAT
[2016-08-08 21:21:52] rapidtrades : HAJIBI WHAT DO U WANT
[2016-08-08 21:21:59] rapidtrades : I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR YOUR SHIT
[2016-08-08 21:22:03] habibi : tos*
[2016-08-08 21:22:09] rapidtrades : yeah gone
[2016-08-08 21:22:20] rapidtrades : did u find it
[2016-08-08 21:22:22] elmorte : you can if you send via outlook
[2016-08-08 21:22:28] Rado : for the first time I see OKCoin USD higher than OKCoin China
[2016-08-08 21:22:29] elmorte : even if it's gmaoil
[2016-08-08 21:22:29] habibi : yea could u give me link to it? even its gone?
[2016-08-08 21:22:32] rapidtrades : post it on our sub
[2016-08-08 21:22:44] rapidtrades : no i saw it on reddit
[2016-08-08 21:23:21] habibi : did u verified it?
[2016-08-08 21:23:35] elmorte : fckin finex...lost more to those cnts then I did being long here for over a week...
[2016-08-08 21:23:59] elmorte : and 90% of my account was in ETH
[2016-08-08 21:24:20] rapidtrades : https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-08 21:24:33] habibi : oh its working somehow
[2016-08-08 21:24:52] elmorte : should check if it's the same version
[2016-08-08 21:25:02] elmorte : them cnt be sly...
[2016-08-08 21:25:05] elmorte : cnts*
[2016-08-08 21:25:24] habibi : rapidtrades: u talk about how dumb people are in crypto and u didnt even check simple thing u read on reddit.
[2016-08-08 21:25:45] elmorte : all caps incoming...
[2016-08-08 21:27:57] justinlooking : https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-08 21:28:54] rapidtrades : there's no date
[2016-08-08 21:29:44] justinlooking : u wot m8
[2016-08-08 21:47:08] ayy_lmao : lo
[2016-08-08 21:47:09] ayy_lmao : l
[2016-08-08 21:54:01] Rado : I haven't seen price of BTC so close for all exchanges
[2016-08-08 21:54:17] Rado : seems like all of them are in a waiting mode to see what happens with Bitfinex
[2016-08-08 21:56:01] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/YryXz6vY-BTC-going-to-around-540-for-a-retest-of-support/
[2016-08-08 21:56:12] Rado : I am trading this setup
[2016-08-08 22:22:14] HackedOnBFX : Rado: good luck bro
[2016-08-08 22:24:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 811 @ 0.01881
[2016-08-08 22:37:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 550 @ 0.01884
[2016-08-08 22:59:09] Tetsuo : Go ETH go
[2016-08-08 22:59:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 3001 @ 0.01911
[2016-08-08 23:00:12] Mm bot : Tetsuo: patience paid off, go ETH
[2016-08-08 23:07:07] jesperf : dayum boi
[2016-08-09 00:10:01] imansyu : Hello all
[2016-08-09 00:10:14] imansyu : What about ETC trend?
[2016-08-09 00:10:20] imansyu : Buy or sell
[2016-08-09 00:12:07] ixess : everyone buying etc
[2016-08-09 00:13:33] ixess : i think etc will go to .0042 or .0043 and then down
[2016-08-09 00:18:07] imansyu : ixess: thank for your information sir