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[2016-08-07 06:10:15] Rado : all my trades are small compared to my balance
[2016-08-07 06:10:27] Rado : luquidations are far
[2016-08-07 06:10:31] Rado : and
[2016-08-07 06:10:49] Rado : I use stop far closer to any liq
[2016-08-07 06:11:32] Rado : trading is about capital preservation and risk management
[2016-08-07 06:11:38] Rado : not gambling
[2016-08-07 06:22:49] bernx : almost 1kk ETC dumped
[2016-08-07 06:23:04] bernx : and eth don't pumped
[2016-08-07 06:23:05] bernx : wtf
[2016-08-07 06:24:09] willybot : Does anyone know who the COO of bitmex is?
[2016-08-07 06:27:00] willybot : lockhedge: thank you
[2016-08-07 06:46:10] Rado : lockhedge: can you see stop orders buy doing API call?
[2016-08-07 06:47:19] lockhedge : Rado: your own stops?
[2016-08-07 06:47:51] Rado : No
[2016-08-07 06:49:56] Rado : So only bitmex "knows" where my stop is
[2016-08-07 06:51:15] lockhedge : afaik yes, only the trading engine knows
[2016-08-07 06:51:44] Rado : Good
[2016-08-07 06:52:36] Rado : So we are stuck now untill bitfinex do something
[2016-08-07 06:52:45] Rado : I mean btc price
[2016-08-07 06:54:04] bernx : Looks like BFX will exit scam
[2016-08-07 06:59:15] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-08-07 06:59:50] rapidtrades : looks like i jumped the gun on my long here....there's still lil bit juice left in those rolls
[2016-08-07 07:00:08] rapidtrades : what was the previous funding fee?
[2016-08-07 07:05:16] Rado : rapidtrades: you are long?
[2016-08-07 07:06:08] Rado : We need to retes 500
[2016-08-07 07:06:18] Rado : Re test
[2016-08-07 07:06:31] rapidtrades : agree but finex messed up my short
[2016-08-07 07:07:22] rapidtrades : they're really going with this crazy scheme, they just moved what's left of their coins
[2016-08-07 07:07:28] rapidtrades : crazy ppl
[2016-08-07 07:07:58] Rado : Moved it where?
[2016-08-07 07:08:06] rapidtrades : who knows
[2016-08-07 07:08:12] rapidtrades : hopefully cold storage
[2016-08-07 07:08:22] bernx : they show only 71k BTC
[2016-08-07 07:08:24] rapidtrades : another bitgo wallet? lol
[2016-08-07 07:08:33] Rado : Lol
[2016-08-07 07:08:41] rapidtrades : yeah they lost 2/3 of coins from their 'cold storage'
[2016-08-07 07:08:59] bernx : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4wiw3q/bitfinex_has_725k_btc_left_or_someone_just_stole/d67dnex?context=3
[2016-08-07 07:09:10] rapidtrades : man there are so many fronts this company can be sued on
[2016-08-07 07:09:27] bernx : Just for me it looks like exit scam. THis random drop on ETC today approve my theory
[2016-08-07 07:09:29] Rado : rapidtrades: my plan is simple
[2016-08-07 07:09:41] Rado : Short here and risk 1 btc
[2016-08-07 07:09:44] rapidtrades : negligence, deceptive marketing, mingling of funds, running a ponzi
[2016-08-07 07:09:49] lockhedge : if they are now in control of their (U.S.) customer's coins they are violatinf the CEA and will again have problems with the CFTC
[2016-08-07 07:09:50] Rado : Make back all my loss
[2016-08-07 07:09:55] Rado : :)
[2016-08-07 07:10:31] rapidtrades : lockhedge: i fear that bitfinex may attempt to do a preferential deal with some ppl...like whales or Ameros
[2016-08-07 07:10:54] rapidtrades : are u guys verified on there?
[2016-08-07 07:11:42] lockhedge : rapidtrades: this would be "Unfair preference" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfair_preference which is illegal even on the British Virgin Islands
[2016-08-07 07:11:44] Rado : I am because I had to do wire transfer
[2016-08-07 07:13:15] rapidtrades : lockhedge: they don't care about the law
[2016-08-07 07:14:01] rapidtrades : pretty sure they're not allowed to redistribute funds without a bankruptcy process but they seem to want to do it anyway
[2016-08-07 07:14:32] lockhedge : rapidtrades: fully agree
[2016-08-07 07:15:42] willybot : Bitfinex are finished I can assure you
[2016-08-07 07:16:12] trestres : if they will redistribute all funds we can expect they need to buy BTC selling ETH and ETC
[2016-08-07 07:17:32] Rado : trestres: they will close all position even if there is no distribution
[2016-08-07 07:17:53] Rado : For accounting purpose
[2016-08-07 07:18:06] Rado : So they can balance the loss
[2016-08-07 07:18:27] trestres : Rado: yes... this is first step
[2016-08-07 07:19:25] trestres : imagine you had BTC... you will have same amount less your losses... how to put them in your account?
[2016-08-07 07:20:34] lockhedge : the first thing they should have done is independent third-party auditing and making clear that Bitfinex's equity will be used to compensate losses.
[2016-08-07 07:20:36] rapidtrades : guy on reddit says they only lost 52% of coins
[2016-08-07 07:20:53] rapidtrades : so they're deliberately f*cking u shorts to bailout the longs
[2016-08-07 07:22:19] lockhedge : without full transparency every attempt to reach a deal is a joke
[2016-08-07 07:22:38] Rado : lockhedge: the stolen coins went to different addreses?
[2016-08-07 07:22:51] Rado : How did the do that?
[2016-08-07 07:23:19] Rado : Create a new address for each transaction?
[2016-08-07 07:23:44] Rado : Can it be all in one wallet?
[2016-08-07 07:24:34] rapidtrades : he don't know and they prolly don't know either
[2016-08-07 07:24:41] lockhedge : Rado: yes seems like all non-P2SH addresses belong to the "hacker" http://pastebin.com/2XSASEEZ
[2016-08-07 07:25:44] Rado : This is for sure an inseder
[2016-08-07 07:25:59] Rado : Either bitfinex or bitgo
[2016-08-07 07:27:02] lockhedge : their security concept (automated co-signing) was flawed enough without an insider
[2016-08-07 07:28:15] Rado : Tes, but you can't initiate a withdrawal without beign inside
[2016-08-07 07:31:21] bernx : Someone here was know about ETC drop
[2016-08-07 07:33:43] lockhedge : Rado: if one single party had enough power to initiate these withdrawals, then it would also have been enough to hack this single "insider"
[2016-08-07 07:34:23] lockhedge : Rado: with automated co-signing they actually 1-of-3 multisig hot wallets
[2016-08-07 07:57:28] Rado : bernx: that's funny statement
[2016-08-07 07:57:53] Rado : It's like saying people follow the price
[2016-08-07 07:58:29] Rado : If you want the price to go up, but it doesn't
[2016-08-07 07:58:51] Rado : It's only your fault for not getting out
[2016-08-07 08:15:16] bernx : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpPgIg9UsAAf9sE.jpg:large
[2016-08-07 08:23:01] bernx : Rado: cmon you can't predict this large random movements. Like you can predict BFX hack with inside open shorts . There the same
[2016-08-07 08:24:08] bernx : Rado: there is was something shit, noone trader will sell 2.2k BTC worht in one order, he split this for maximize profit. No?
[2016-08-07 08:56:39] Tetsuo : bernx: megalol @zane conversation Screenshot. Ridiculous
[2016-08-07 09:48:26] ctpact : btc is easy to predict many noobs play with it
[2016-08-07 09:48:56] wotan : sow hats yur prediction for today
[2016-08-07 09:49:07] ctpact : I predict almost all major btc moves last year
[2016-08-07 09:49:39] jesperf : wow then you must have several 1000 btc
[2016-08-07 09:49:41] ctpact : the last one
[2016-08-07 09:49:44] ctpact : https://www.tradingview.com/x/DVDvW9Da/
[2016-08-07 09:50:02] ctpact : https://www.tradingview.com/x/4GVPqOog/
[2016-08-07 09:50:32] wotan : so prediction next days?
[2016-08-07 09:51:02] justinlooking : http://anony.ws/image/Nn1B
[2016-08-07 09:51:14] wotan : you predicted a downer but the fall was because of bitfinex
[2016-08-07 09:51:16] justinlooking : btc-e got depth!
[2016-08-07 09:51:18] ctpact : I play with charts and this casino site here dont post real trades on charts
[2016-08-07 09:53:44] ctpact : justinlooking: what a mystery image lol
[2016-08-07 09:54:19] wotan : yes:)
[2016-08-07 09:54:54] wotan : i think we move a bit sidewards today then a push over 2900 and stabilitze at over 2900 would be nice
[2016-08-07 09:55:13] wotan : 3900 of course
[2016-08-07 09:59:31] wotan : but lets see
[2016-08-07 10:03:06] lockhedge : justinlooking: itBit is currently the most liquid BTCUSD exchange, based on depth and volume https://tradeblock.com/markets/
[2016-08-07 10:03:52] justinlooking : yeh - has been since finex pop....
[2016-08-07 10:05:58] lockhedge : justinlooking: what? btc-e sell orders in their book or itbit liquidity?
[2016-08-07 10:06:42] justinlooking : itbit's liquidity
[2016-08-07 10:07:00] justinlooking : btc-e growth is notable, and because no-fees for a month
[2016-08-07 10:07:25] justinlooking : ..presumably
[2016-08-07 10:17:21] lockhedge : just keep in mind when trading there that btc-e usually trades at a relatively high discount because it is the only liquid exchange where criminals can dump their coins
[2016-08-07 10:20:51] wotan : nice push over 3900
[2016-08-07 11:13:27] Techemy : ItBit most liquid in USD pair. Kraken killing it on Euro: http://bravenewcoin.com/bitcoin?mkt=EUR#Exchanges
[2016-08-07 11:19:59] subjective : Is Euro/XBT coming to Bitmex soon?
[2016-08-07 11:20:49] subjective : saw it on test net
[2016-08-07 11:21:09] justinlooking : it;s been there ages i think
[2016-08-07 11:22:33] subjective : justinlooking: yep, it's been there for months. I am wondering if they are testing to release it soon
[2016-08-07 11:22:51] Zyzz : what time to they send withdraws again?
[2016-08-07 11:29:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 35 @ 0.003915
[2016-08-07 11:30:21] bernx : wow etc
[2016-08-07 11:33:36] justinlooking : u mean rETC
[2016-08-07 11:34:46] fsec : etc ded
[2016-08-07 11:45:25] Mm bot : congrats to Bitmex on ETC market, some nice column here.
[2016-08-07 11:46:04] habibi : Mm bot: u the main market maker?
[2016-08-07 11:46:29] Mm bot : habibi: small time MM
[2016-08-07 12:00:13] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCXBT`: Buy 6704 @ 0.00637
[2016-08-07 12:32:34] VenCap : can i set up 2fa here?
[2016-08-07 12:37:42] jesperf : VenCap: you can and you should. click account up top and then "my account" in the menu to the left
[2016-08-07 12:37:51] habibi : https://www.bitmex.com/app/account Enable 2fa
[2016-08-07 12:38:02] VenCap : yeah found it, cheers.
[2016-08-07 12:51:29] willybot : Mm bot: are you joking?
[2016-08-07 12:52:30] Mm bot : willybot: what was the joke again?
[2016-08-07 13:00:57] rapidtrades : hey does anyone have enough $$$ to chat on btce
[2016-08-07 13:01:48] rapidtrades : they don't count what u have on mt4 unfortunately and need to ask smth
[2016-08-07 13:06:58] rapidtrades : want to know if the no fees extends to mt4 or just the exchange
[2016-08-07 13:09:13] rapidtrades : btw has there been a change in code? chat seems super laggy
[2016-08-07 13:16:45] Rado : rapidtrades: no fees on btce?
[2016-08-07 13:16:56] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-08-07 13:16:57] Rado : is it a promotion?
[2016-08-07 13:17:06] rapidtrades : ye
[2016-08-07 13:21:44] VenCap : hey guys new to margin trading here, only done it on polo before, totally different
[2016-08-07 13:22:06] VenCap : if i am right, i can select a price and then click close. if it hits price, it will close. correct? (margin trading)
[2016-08-07 13:24:12] Rado : VenCap: start with using the Place Order menu on the top left
[2016-08-07 13:24:27] Rado : I would not use the Close button just yet
[2016-08-07 13:24:50] VenCap : hi Rado, place order to close a short position?
[2016-08-07 13:24:56] Rado : yes
[2016-08-07 13:25:20] Rado : if you have a short and want to close you can click buy/long
[2016-08-07 13:25:26] Rado : either market or limit
[2016-08-07 13:25:43] rapidtrades : anyone tried steemet
[2016-08-07 13:25:46] VenCap : does the buy not turn into a long?
[2016-08-07 13:25:48] rapidtrades : or whatever its spelled
[2016-08-07 13:25:59] Rado : VenCap: no
[2016-08-07 13:26:09] Rado : rapidtrades: I opened an account there
[2016-08-07 13:26:15] Rado : haven't done much with it
[2016-08-07 13:26:41] VenCap : so if i want to close short at 355 how would i do it?
[2016-08-07 13:27:20] Rado : VenCap: which contract?
[2016-08-07 13:27:29] VenCap : a short on etc
[2016-08-07 13:28:00] VenCap : need a simple way to close it.
[2016-08-07 13:28:05] Rado : place a buy at 0.00355
[2016-08-07 13:28:08] VenCap : this is totally different than poloniex
[2016-08-07 13:28:18] VenCap : rado, to confirm buy does NOT turn into a long?
[2016-08-07 13:28:20] Rado : if it hit that price it will close your short
[2016-08-07 13:28:41] jesperf : VenCap: it turns into a long if you buy more contracts than you have sold
[2016-08-07 13:28:43] Rado : rapidtrades: I see the lag as well
[2016-08-07 13:28:58] VenCap : thing is...how do you place an order to buy at "x" price?
[2016-08-07 13:29:16] Rado : same way
[2016-08-07 13:29:22] VenCap : can i not just close it in the positions box?
[2016-08-07 13:29:25] Rado : buying or closing short is the same
[2016-08-07 13:29:38] Rado : you can, but it will do the same
[2016-08-07 13:29:56] Rado : there is no close order like on Polo
[2016-08-07 13:30:03] Rado : here you have to specify the price
[2016-08-07 13:30:41] VenCap : i see. and when do profits get released?
[2016-08-07 13:31:20] Rado : for ETC contract in 5 days
[2016-08-07 13:31:26] VenCap : so friday?
[2016-08-07 13:31:31] Rado : yes
[2016-08-07 13:31:46] Rado : sometimes BitMEX will release profits earlier
[2016-08-07 13:31:50] VenCap : every 5 days.. so if i close thursday... i will have to wait until next thursday?
[2016-08-07 13:32:06] Rado : VenCap: no
[2016-08-07 13:32:12] Rado : you will get it Friday
[2016-08-07 13:32:16] rapidtrades : does polo require IDs
[2016-08-07 13:32:27] VenCap : ah. so as long as i close before friday i get it friday
[2016-08-07 13:32:32] Rado : all profits get released on Friday regardless of when you closed the order
[2016-08-07 13:32:42] VenCap : cheers Rado.
[2016-08-07 13:32:46] Rado : np
[2016-08-07 13:33:48] Rado : rapidtrades: I don't think so
[2016-08-07 13:34:35] willybot : Do Bitmex operate the trading bots on the site?
[2016-08-07 13:34:47] willybot : Answer: Yes.
[2016-08-07 13:36:30] Rado : willybot: what do you mean?
[2016-08-07 13:37:26] Rado : I don't think they run market maker bots
[2016-08-07 13:37:55] willybot : Rado: I have proof.
[2016-08-07 13:38:30] Rado : lets see it
[2016-08-07 13:38:51] willybot : Rado: Tuesday/ Wednesday afternoon
[2016-08-07 13:39:12] habibi : willybot: could u expand it?
[2016-08-07 13:40:15] Rado : willybot: is it illegal to do this?
[2016-08-07 13:41:00] willybot : They had a chance to reason with me but decided not to. Now I will make this a known fact in the circle
[2016-08-07 13:41:15] willybot : Rado: No it is not. And highly unethical
[2016-08-07 13:41:44] willybot : Its not the legalities that finish this exchange, its the reputation
[2016-08-07 13:41:46] habibi : willybot: looking forward for real proof, not just crap talk :)
[2016-08-07 13:42:24] willybot : habibi: Do about 5 mins of research and you will connect enough dots without needing trade data
[2016-08-07 13:42:47] habibi : its still speculation as long as real proof is not here
[2016-08-07 13:42:48] Rado : willybot: it will be really bad if the bot knows what the trader positions are and uses that information to trade
[2016-08-07 13:43:07] willybot : Rado: Take a look at ETC7D after the 5th
[2016-08-07 13:43:16] willybot : Rado: Notice the quote spread?
[2016-08-07 13:43:51] Rado : right now it's normal
[2016-08-07 13:43:53] habibi : ? yea whats about spread? how it indicates Arthur as a market maker creator or Sam?
[2016-08-07 13:43:55] willybot : Thats after I entered a 16k long. They dropped the bids so I coudn't take profit, even in the 50s
[2016-08-07 13:44:10] habibi : yea coz ur main counter player is market maker anyway
[2016-08-07 13:44:11] willybot : habibi: I have an email from him
[2016-08-07 13:44:37] willybot : The guys that run this show run the bots
[2016-08-07 13:44:42] Rado : willybot: that doesn't make sense
[2016-08-07 13:44:52] habibi : so he is playing against u and he is greedy as fck, and kinda trapping people all the time
[2016-08-07 13:45:01] willybot : habibi: correct
[2016-08-07 13:45:01] habibi : but still its not doesnt proof anything u say
[2016-08-07 13:45:01] Rado : if the market in ETC is going up it doesn't matter if they have a bid or not
[2016-08-07 13:45:05] Rado : users will bid it
[2016-08-07 13:45:07] lockhedge : willybot: you have an e-mail that says what? could you paste it somewhere?
[2016-08-07 13:45:13] Rado : the problem is ETC market is going down
[2016-08-07 13:45:34] willybot : I have trade data to support this and also internal docs
[2016-08-07 13:46:03] habibi : market maker is here to make money and he will trap u every time he can, but its still can be outside guy. Don't get me wrong, i am willing to believe u if u support it with real evidence
[2016-08-07 13:46:27] willybot : lockhedge: Give me a few days I am compiling eveything I have and will have some help getting it together
[2016-08-07 13:47:30] Rado : willybot: you just missed the time to sell
[2016-08-07 13:47:37] habibi : willybot: u will get a nice tip from me if evidence will be 100% trustworthy :) otherwise its fud
[2016-08-07 13:47:48] Rado : I shorted at 0.0062 and in the 0.005s
[2016-08-07 13:48:02] rapidtrades : i hope its not true
[2016-08-07 13:48:03] Rado : does that make me playing against your long?
[2016-08-07 13:48:10] rapidtrades : im running out of exchanges
[2016-08-07 13:48:11] willybot : Rado: No, they removed all bids
[2016-08-07 13:48:22] Rado : why is that a problem?
[2016-08-07 13:48:48] Rado : if ETC was going up that is actually good for traders
[2016-08-07 13:49:19] willybot : Rado: If you cant understand why running your own bots and using hidden market data to advantage is wrong you shouldnt be in this game
[2016-08-07 13:49:21] habibi : if the exposure of MM is too big he will remove 1 side as he cant hedge that on margin markets
[2016-08-07 13:49:31] Rado : willybot: the volume on ETC was way higher to care about your 16k position
[2016-08-07 13:49:41] rapidtrades : willybot: shut up and show ur proof
[2016-08-07 13:49:54] lockhedge : willybot: probably the main market maker was "sold out" on the bid side and/or had no possibility to hedge
[2016-08-07 13:50:15] Rado : it's the first time you said something that makes sense
[2016-08-07 13:50:24] rapidtrades : are u sure its hat and not sure GIANT 911 CONSPIRACY
[2016-08-07 13:50:26] Rado : if they use the data to make decisions that is illegal
[2016-08-07 13:50:31] rapidtrades : @lockhedge
[2016-08-07 13:51:06] rapidtrades : chat lag messed up what i wanted to say
[2016-08-07 13:51:15] habibi : i mean bitmex has specialist in market making, and they can instantly contact market maker whenever u wanna bigger order for u but its still doesnt make it real. doesnt proof they are mming
[2016-08-07 13:52:16] Rado : habibi: it's a problem if they use data from the exchange to trade
[2016-08-07 13:52:25] Rado : like knowing where orders are
[2016-08-07 13:52:35] Rado : that is what I was asking lockhedge yesterday
[2016-08-07 13:52:45] Rado : if the MM knows where my stop is they can run it
[2016-08-07 13:52:46] habibi : it is but as i said, no proof so far for anything that relates them to mming here.
[2016-08-07 13:53:41] Rado : where did moderators go by the way?
[2016-08-07 13:53:46] Rado : no one from BitMEX in here
[2016-08-07 13:53:57] willybot : http://imgur.com/a/hK39r
[2016-08-07 13:54:10] willybot : We tend to "nudge" them from time to time
[2016-08-07 13:54:21] willybot : We have "close" relationships
[2016-08-07 13:55:06] habibi : hm
[2016-08-07 13:55:09] willybot : Its a known fact they operate the market makers
[2016-08-07 13:55:11] lockhedge : large MMs and exchanges always have close relationships, doesn't say that they give them insider information
[2016-08-07 13:55:11] habibi : that second picture is interesing
[2016-08-07 13:55:22] willybot : Thats what they set out to do
[2016-08-07 13:55:43] Rado : willybot: this doesn't proof anything
[2016-08-07 13:55:46] habibi : where did u get that picture from?
[2016-08-07 13:56:00] Rado : if they give MMs data their business is done
[2016-08-07 13:56:15] habibi : Once the exchange is up and running Arthur primary responsibility will be to market make futures and option on bitcoin vs fiar currency.
[2016-08-07 13:56:16] willybot : Rado: no. The trade data I have does
[2016-08-07 13:56:18] Rado : habibi: it's public on the internet
[2016-08-07 13:56:32] Roevenger : I saw a couple of whales promoting bitmex before, so I think you're wrong @willybot
[2016-08-07 13:57:12] willybot : Close relations is all I need
[2016-08-07 13:57:18] Zyzz : Rado: you never got back to me
[2016-08-07 13:57:45] habibi : lockhedge: i agree totally, just saying its weird that Arth was suppose to mm here and after all they saying he is not at all
[2016-08-07 13:58:07] willybot : habibi: Thats just the start of what I found
[2016-08-07 14:04:47] willybot : Can anybody give me a registered address for this exchange?
[2016-08-07 14:11:33] lockhedge : willybot: i guess it's HDR Global Trading Limited 2nd Floor, Capital City, Independence Avenue P.O. Box 1008, Victoria, Mahe, Republic of Seychelles
[2016-08-07 14:13:06] macios15 : reeeerekt
[2016-08-07 14:13:33] Rado : by the way when I was searching for the address here is what they have on their about us page
[2016-08-07 14:13:38] Rado : Co-Founder and COO Builds market making and high frequency trading systems.
[2016-08-07 14:13:59] Rado : they want the COO to have MM experiance
[2016-08-07 14:14:00] Rado : :-)
[2016-08-07 14:14:44] habibi : its still nothing bad as long as he is not using that expierience in programming mms here
[2016-08-07 14:16:40] Rado : Bitfinex will issue BFX tokens to customers to record each customer's discrete losses. These tokens will remain outstanding until Bitfinex redeems them in full or until they are exchange for iFinex Inc's shares (upon both customers' request and Bitfinex acceptance). The issuance of these tokens is meant to reassure customers that the losses are not permanent and Bitfinex intends to continue operations once it is relaunched.
[2016-08-07 14:17:00] Rado : I think Bitfinex has a chance to survive if the market accepts the tokens
[2016-08-07 14:17:25] Rado : One thing I am worried is this tokens have no direct link to actual shares of iFinex
[2016-08-07 14:18:14] Rado : The BFX tokens represent unsecured debt obligations of Bitfinex – a commitment to repay money at a future point in time. If these tokens can be traded, it would offer a way out for customers who are in need of liquidity.
[2016-08-07 14:18:32] Rado : The value at which these tokens trade would represent the market's confidence in Bitfinex.
[2016-08-07 14:25:50] bernx : Wow! 590
[2016-08-07 14:25:58] Rado : wow?
[2016-08-07 14:26:09] bernx : wow. Slowpoke.
[2016-08-07 14:26:17] Rado : looks like the market wants to be as close as possible to $604
[2016-08-07 14:26:24] Rado : the price Bitifinex went off line
[2016-08-07 14:27:02] Rado : there will be a reaction hen they come online
[2016-08-07 14:27:09] Rado : the big question is up or down
[2016-08-07 14:27:49] Tetsuo : I highly doubt that they will come back online with anything more than a read only ever
[2016-08-07 14:28:58] Tetsuo : They couldn´t handle shit in the past, there will be thousands of accounts displaying wrong balances(negative balances... etc)
[2016-08-07 14:29:01] Rado : if they don't the market will sell off
[2016-08-07 14:29:38] Tetsuo : Also the media is already onto them calling their practice illegal, calling them thieves
[2016-08-07 14:29:49] Tetsuo : They are done
[2016-08-07 14:30:45] Tetsuo : Fukkin crooks
[2016-08-07 14:31:35] lockhedge : Rado: don't think that anything will happen when Bitfinex goes online, your balance will show 36% less but you won't be able to withdraw anything until they have legal certainty which will probably take month
[2016-08-07 14:32:21] Rado : lockhedge: nothing will happen with Bitfinex accounts, but the market will have some indication and it will move
[2016-08-07 14:32:35] Rado : I am still leaning short
[2016-08-07 14:33:19] Zyzz : Rado: Im back now. Did you reply to me earlier?
[2016-08-07 14:33:28] Rado : Zyzz: where?
[2016-08-07 14:33:36] Rado : I did not see a message on twitter
[2016-08-07 14:34:00] Zyzz : Rado: You need to follow me back so i can dm you. @Taxpayer
[2016-08-07 14:34:13] Rado : I think I did
[2016-08-07 14:34:15] Rado : let me check
[2016-08-07 14:34:50] Rado : done now
[2016-08-07 14:34:54] Rado : lol at your handle
[2016-08-07 14:34:58] Rado : taxpayer?
[2016-08-07 14:35:10] Tetsuo : lockhedge: lol@legal certainity -> they won´t never ever get that for their proposed solution
[2016-08-07 14:35:21] Zyzz : Rado: :D
[2016-08-07 14:39:08] lockhedge : Tetsuo: they probably just wanted to pay time with this offer (or they are very naive)
[2016-08-07 14:40:28] Tetsuo : Karpeles was naive, Bitfinex was a team of crooks from the beginning
[2016-08-07 14:44:18] HackedOnBFX : wooooooooo ETC
[2016-08-07 14:44:20] HackedOnBFX : yeehaw
[2016-08-07 14:45:23] Rado : HackedOnBFX: lol love the nickname
[2016-08-07 14:48:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 190 @ 0.003610
[2016-08-07 14:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 589 @ 0.003588
[2016-08-07 14:48:52] Rado : looks like the new guy might get his 0.00355
[2016-08-07 14:49:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 46 @ 0.003560
[2016-08-07 14:49:44] HackedOnBFX : Rado: :)
[2016-08-07 14:50:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.003506
[2016-08-07 14:50:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 12 @ 0.003477
[2016-08-07 14:50:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.003486
[2016-08-07 14:50:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 989 @ 0.003458
[2016-08-07 15:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3000 @ 0.003869
[2016-08-07 15:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.003851
[2016-08-07 15:17:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 650 @ 0.003911
[2016-08-07 15:18:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 3000 @ 0.003826
[2016-08-07 15:20:58] HackedOnBFX : REKT: why am i seeing your trades?
[2016-08-07 15:21:14] Tetsuo : zanetackett: Site won't probably be up today 56 minutes ago
[2016-08-07 15:21:28] justinlooking : REKT is member's bot announcing liqs, leave him alone :P
[2016-08-07 15:22:21] HackedOnBFX : justinlooking: can I turn it off?
[2016-08-07 15:22:59] justinlooking : not easily
[2016-08-07 15:23:57] HackedOnBFX : justinlooking: so is that for everybodies orderS?
[2016-08-07 15:24:06] HackedOnBFX : or is that 1 guy?
[2016-08-07 15:24:27] Rado : everyone
[2016-08-07 15:24:30] Rado : this is not orders
[2016-08-07 15:24:36] Rado : only liquidations
[2016-08-07 15:24:57] HackedOnBFX : Rado: ooooooh
[2016-08-07 15:24:59] justinlooking : Rado, but they kind of are orders
[2016-08-07 15:25:00] HackedOnBFX : like forced liquidations
[2016-08-07 15:25:02] HackedOnBFX : ?
[2016-08-07 15:25:09] justinlooking : yes
[2016-08-07 15:25:17] HackedOnBFX : :(
[2016-08-07 15:25:46] HackedOnBFX : rule #!: don't get margin called
[2016-08-07 15:42:38] Zyzz : Rado: @³
[2016-08-07 15:46:08] daveberns1 : the BFX tokens sound interesting
[2016-08-07 15:46:30] daveberns1 : i give them props for potentially delivering an innovative solution
[2016-08-07 15:47:05] daveberns1 : as for the exchange, i never liked it and never used it after a trial a couple of years ago
[2016-08-07 15:47:30] daveberns1 : it felt cheap and not secure...
[2016-08-07 16:03:21] lockhedge : lawyer to FT about Bitfinex's plan to socialize losses: "would be theft" https://next.ft.com/content/c3b9f89c-5b18-11e6-9f70-badea1b336d4#axzz4Gb3ntjOL
[2016-08-07 16:03:58] habibi : could u pastebin article?
[2016-08-07 16:05:13] justinlooking : habibi, google that link, and click. it will let u thru
[2016-08-07 16:05:37] habibi : ty for tip, worked :)
[2016-08-07 16:09:34] justinlooking : habibi: np
[2016-08-07 16:09:41] justinlooking : smash xbt down to 585 and we'll call it even :P
[2016-08-07 16:28:30] Rado : justinlooking: I am short as well. 585 will be nice to close at
[2016-08-07 16:32:27] bernx : Rado: wow
[2016-08-07 16:32:33] bernx : Rado: how are you know this?
[2016-08-07 16:32:52] Rado : bernx: what?
[2016-08-07 16:32:59] bernx : Rado: about drop and 585
[2016-08-07 16:33:19] Rado : I don't know
[2016-08-07 16:33:43] Tetsuo : he smart
[2016-08-07 16:33:55] Rado : i shorted 597 because it was overbought and I think 600 is resistance
[2016-08-07 16:34:10] Rado : also news are still not good about Bitfinex
[2016-08-07 16:34:25] Rado : so I try to short when it goes up
[2016-08-07 16:35:10] Tetsuo : hopium bullish finex news are already priced in, from now on all news that come out from Finex will lead to another dump
[2016-08-07 16:35:56] Rado : Tetsuo: agreed
[2016-08-07 16:37:13] bernx : Rado: overbought at what timeframe?
[2016-08-07 16:37:38] justinlooking : for finex to announce what they have, they must have otc'd a bunch of btc for usd and eth already
[2016-08-07 16:39:09] bernx : Doesn't looks we go deeper then 3900
[2016-08-07 16:39:39] Rado : bernx: 15 min
[2016-08-07 16:46:16] Rado : Covered 589
[2016-08-07 16:46:22] Rado : probably early
[2016-08-07 16:48:12] Tetsuo : ETH might start a nice really when BTC starts dumpin hard again
[2016-08-07 16:48:23] Tetsuo : *rallye
[2016-08-07 16:49:20] VenCap : hey guys, is there a way to see the total count of active orders.
[2016-08-07 16:49:42] VenCap : EG: i have 6,000 contracts in my position, then i make ctive orders. but loose count
[2016-08-07 16:49:42] Tetsuo : click "active orders"
[2016-08-07 16:49:51] VenCap : there
[2016-08-07 16:50:13] VenCap : i can not see a total
[2016-08-07 16:51:01] VenCap : there must be a way to see the total. rather than add it up on calculator
[2016-08-07 16:51:18] Rado : VenCap: do you mean your open position
[2016-08-07 16:51:30] VenCap : no. i see the size/value there
[2016-08-07 16:51:41] VenCap : then i see limit orders. that appear in the Active Orders tab
[2016-08-07 16:51:47] VenCap : but it does not give total.
[2016-08-07 16:52:13] VenCap : i guess i just have to keep it simple.
[2016-08-07 16:52:26] Rado : Total as in amount of contracts?
[2016-08-07 16:52:44] VenCap : yes . in the active orders tab
[2016-08-07 16:52:45] Rado : yes, cancel them and enter one order :)
[2016-08-07 16:52:57] Rado : unless they are at different prices
[2016-08-07 16:53:04] VenCap : ah.. but i like to have them broken up. and not put one big order
[2016-08-07 16:53:13] VenCap : yes they are at different prices also
[2016-08-07 16:53:29] Rado : you need to use the API
[2016-08-07 16:53:33] VenCap : just odd it does not give total.
[2016-08-07 16:53:44] Rado : I am working on something like this
[2016-08-07 16:53:53] Rado : will share it when done
[2016-08-07 16:56:40] Rado : 584 now
[2016-08-07 16:56:49] Rado : nice
[2016-08-07 16:58:26] boxer : hello
[2016-08-07 16:58:53] boxer : is there an android app I can use to manage my account?
[2016-08-07 17:00:40] BTCDJS : boxer: don't think there's any mobile apps mate
[2016-08-07 17:02:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 585.78
[2016-08-07 17:04:22] boxer : BTCDJS: thanks
[2016-08-07 17:06:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 584.86
[2016-08-07 17:07:12] bernx : bounce
[2016-08-07 17:07:14] bernx : ?
[2016-08-07 17:07:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 583.84
[2016-08-07 17:07:43] Tetsuo : Bring on da REKTS!
[2016-08-07 17:10:45] bernx : wow just get 577 entry
[2016-08-07 17:11:10] Rado : bernx: be careful
[2016-08-07 17:11:29] Rado : it might dump hard
[2016-08-07 17:11:35] bernx : ye
[2016-08-07 17:13:28] Vince : I see the 24 hour BTC/Yen stuff but is there a way so I can place a leveraged long BTC and short Yen trade that can go on for months?
[2016-08-07 17:14:19] Vince : I am new to BitMex.
[2016-08-07 17:15:53] jan : Hi when I use leverage Can I buy more for the same value of BTC ?
[2016-08-07 17:16:09] bernx : yes
[2016-08-07 17:17:57] Tetsuo : "Bitbet hasn't payed out since Bitfinex hack. They are overdue more than 96h on latest resolved bet. They state payouts happen 24h after bets are resolved. They are still accepting bets. It could be due to other reasons, just a word of caution. "
[2016-08-07 17:18:45] Tetsuo : one by one we will take you
[2016-08-07 17:24:17] Tetsuo : Lulz from reddit pt.5567: "I hope in near future BFX will be 100% transparent"
[2016-08-07 17:30:07] bernx : Rado: bounce or down?
[2016-08-07 17:39:52] Tetsuo : sideways than down
[2016-08-07 17:43:36] rapidtrades : is noone suing
[2016-08-07 17:44:25] rapidtrades : guess we gotta wait for money right
[2016-08-07 17:45:20] rapidtrades : monday
[2016-08-07 17:49:43] bernx : rapidtrades: ?
[2016-08-07 17:51:17] rapidtrades : lawsuits coming bro
[2016-08-07 17:53:05] bernx : AHAHAHA
[2016-08-07 17:53:10] bernx : US CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE HAIRCUT
[2016-08-07 17:53:11] bernx : AHAHAHAHA
[2016-08-07 17:53:21] rapidtrades : what....
[2016-08-07 17:53:32] bernx : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4w7wtx/bitfinex_employee_stated_that_all_usd_balances/d657s2b?context=3
[2016-08-07 17:54:23] rapidtrades : that's old
[2016-08-07 17:54:39] rapidtrades : he hasn't anaswered the new q
[2016-08-07 17:54:54] rapidtrades : but ppl would be pissed if ameros are walking without a cut
[2016-08-07 17:55:08] bernx : some guys get email from synapse
[2016-08-07 17:55:34] rapidtrades : proof
[2016-08-07 17:58:25] bernx : https://twitter.com/CryptoGambleh/status/762347096011702272
[2016-08-07 17:59:01] bernx : don't sure i get it right
[2016-08-07 18:01:11] wilhelm : LOL
[2016-08-07 18:03:24] bernx : So about what this info?
[2016-08-07 18:03:35] bernx : I don't get it right I think
[2016-08-07 18:03:41] bernx : English not primary
[2016-08-07 18:11:19] rapidtrades : well that sucks
[2016-08-07 18:11:30] rapidtrades : so we're taking the fall for the ameros
[2016-08-07 18:11:38] rapidtrades : that's just peachy
[2016-08-07 18:16:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 20 @ 0.003696
[2016-08-07 18:16:10] bernx : Looks like exit scam.
[2016-08-07 18:16:44] rapidtrades : it's not an exit scam....they want their cash cow to keep going
[2016-08-07 18:17:11] bernx : Nana, BFX exit scam. They haircut ton's of people
[2016-08-07 18:17:22] bernx : For what? USD most secure
[2016-08-07 18:17:33] bernx : Most of money was from US
[2016-08-07 18:17:59] rapidtrades : they will have major problems if they didn't factor this in
[2016-08-07 18:18:36] bernx : When you have above 300k BTC and other altcoins you can do anything
[2016-08-07 18:18:42] rapidtrades : sleger: are u suing
[2016-08-07 18:19:24] bernx : For example just go to Russia and say fuck to all world
[2016-08-07 18:20:43] rapidtrades : man they're still charging comish on the mt4
[2016-08-07 18:20:46] rapidtrades : wtf btce
[2016-08-07 18:23:26] rapidtrades : sentiment still very bearish across all futures
[2016-08-07 18:23:32] rapidtrades : prolly not gonna end well
[2016-08-07 18:28:19] bernx : Well if synapse reverse this haircut
[2016-08-07 18:28:27] bernx : Looks like there will be a much more haircut
[2016-08-07 18:35:15] Tetsuo : when i think of crypto i am so full of shame. Repuksion comes over me. i am so glad that i didn´t mention it to anyone for more than 2 years now. i might leave it forever and hop onto the next big promising ponzi train
[2016-08-07 18:35:38] Tetsuo : maybe i should just stop reading reddit
[2016-08-07 18:35:48] Tetsuo : get´s me misanthropic, even more than usual
[2016-08-07 18:37:52] bernx : http://i.imgur.com/93dVzA7.jpg
[2016-08-07 18:39:18] Tetsuo : where is okcoins usd deposit bank located? mozambique? ain´t it? lel
[2016-08-07 18:46:36] rapidtrades : bernx: that's not even funny
[2016-08-07 18:47:50] Tetsuo : Thoughts from bctt pt.2451: "I'm in this for the long term so risking 10 bitcoins for exclusive access to owning shares of BitFinex is fine with me."
[2016-08-07 18:48:09] rapidtrades : looool
[2016-08-07 18:48:19] rapidtrades : THEY'RE NOT EVEN GIVEN OUT SHARES
[2016-08-07 18:48:49] rapidtrades : they will ''possibly'' do it if you ask AND ''bitfinex agrees''
[2016-08-07 18:58:37] Tetsuo : " Andre P Gagnon Posted at 16:43h, 06 August Reply In all honesty we all knew the risks and appreciate everything http://www.Bitfinex.com has done for us! I would rather take BFX shares then 99% of the companies on the market anyway. Minor set back and I think you have and are doing the right thing! "
[2016-08-07 18:59:25] Tetsuo : "Alina Posted at 17:31h, 06 August Reply Are you shares trading on any stock market and how much company worth now? "
[2016-08-07 18:59:44] Tetsuo : I can´t take it anymore .... ROFL
[2016-08-07 19:21:15] bernx : If they don't lose any money and stillwill get shares this good for them
[2016-08-07 19:22:03] bruh : anyone shorting etc?
[2016-08-07 19:22:07] bruh : anyone else
[2016-08-07 19:22:08] bruh : with me
[2016-08-07 19:23:24] bernx : Na
[2016-08-07 19:23:30] justinlooking : yup
[2016-08-07 19:30:41] bruh : word
[2016-08-07 19:30:46] bruh : time to profit together @justinlooking
[2016-08-07 19:30:53] Tetsuo : I'm in
[2016-08-07 19:31:30] Tetsuo : Let's burn BTC to the ground!
[2016-08-07 19:33:24] justinlooking : etc derp
[2016-08-07 19:34:21] Tetsuo : ETC will Crash even more. I'm not sure what will happen to ETH. I put some money on a Pump
[2016-08-07 19:35:11] Tetsuo : ETC---> 0.0025 at least
[2016-08-07 19:41:29] bernx : BFX dump ETC
[2016-08-07 19:41:33] bernx : Soon it will happen to ETH
[2016-08-07 19:45:39] Tetsuo : With Bitfinex soon to be gone the chinks nwill get the complete power in BTC markets. And you can bet on it that those exchange owners will use it in whatever way it will be most profitable to them.
[2016-08-07 19:47:31] Tetsuo : can´t wait for the next big Huoib okc0in shennigans
[2016-08-07 19:48:57] Tetsuo : after Bitfinex the next drama to be played will probably be about the hardforking of BTC by chinese miners
[2016-08-07 19:49:19] Tetsuo : so much volatility about to come, wow.
[2016-08-07 19:50:11] Tetsuo : PS: BTC is not a joke! lel
[2016-08-07 20:06:20] men : why etc removed from bitmex?
[2016-08-07 20:06:51] men : no its only a bug
[2016-08-07 20:08:25] Tetsuo : you probably just got a glimpse of the future
[2016-08-07 20:08:44] justinlooking : haha
[2016-08-07 20:09:14] men : Tetsuo: lol
[2016-08-07 20:10:05] justinlooking : definitely a bug, it coincides with the funding time on swaps
[2016-08-07 20:10:50] justinlooking : sometimes some non-swap contracts don't come back
[2016-08-07 20:12:03] Tetsuo : does anyone have a link where i can see the total houbi orderbook, i know it exists
[2016-08-07 20:13:30] Tetsuo : got it
[2016-08-07 20:21:26] Tetsuo : https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/760318293651566592
[2016-08-07 20:25:05] Tetsuo : "Roger Ver ‏@rogerkver Aug 6 Boston, MA That the combined market cap of ETH & ETC was greater after the fork means the market viewed it as a good thing. A lesson for Bitcoin? "
[2016-08-07 20:25:27] Tetsuo : i´m sorry , i´ll stop now, too drunk again, but still , lulz