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[2016-08-06 09:09:07] rapidtrades : this is one big joke for them...just trying to keep their jobs
[2016-08-06 09:09:11] rapidtrades : THEY ALL NEED TO GO
[2016-08-06 09:10:42] zanza : the CEO is unknown lcation, hes a ghost
[2016-08-06 09:11:49] rapidtrades : wish i had sue money
[2016-08-06 09:12:03] rapidtrades : who's planning to join a class action lawsuit
[2016-08-06 09:12:33] elmorte : I don't think I'm verified
[2016-08-06 09:12:43] rapidtrades : doesn't matter
[2016-08-06 09:12:53] rapidtrades : you have a claim
[2016-08-06 09:13:21] elmorte : This is only if they declare bankruptcy?
[2016-08-06 09:13:30] rapidtrades : no
[2016-08-06 09:14:05] elmorte : The wtf are they gonna pay from? This is their principal business
[2016-08-06 09:14:21] rapidtrades : their bank accounts? houses? idk
[2016-08-06 09:14:21] elmorte : It's not like they have another hustle they can pull money from
[2016-08-06 09:14:31] rapidtrades : gross negligence is a thing
[2016-08-06 09:14:38] elmorte : If they have money in the bank then it will be in our accounts
[2016-08-06 09:14:46] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2016-08-06 09:14:53] elmorte : true, but worth it only if they have the funds to pay
[2016-08-06 09:15:07] elmorte : if they don't, it's beating a dead horse
[2016-08-06 09:15:21] rapidtrades : only one way to find out :)
[2016-08-06 09:15:32] elmorte : I'll get my bat
[2016-08-06 09:15:45] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-08-06 09:21:30] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-08-06 10:26:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 11 @ 0.004739
[2016-08-06 10:37:15] bernx : 490 polo, still 475 here fuuuuu
[2016-08-06 10:38:30] habibi : don't worry, guess big shorter here will be liquidated if we push higher so we can actually get some premium
[2016-08-06 10:39:03] bernx : but same spread for eth
[2016-08-06 10:45:49] bernx : Why whales try hold eth price this level?
[2016-08-06 10:49:02] TheMightyX : liquidity is so low here...
[2016-08-06 10:51:22] lockhedge : bernx: if market makers can't dynamically hedge their long position (short at polo if they have a long position here), they will quote at a discount when they are long to reduce inventory risk
[2016-08-06 10:52:07] bernx : ye. but then tjere ypu can play only with 5-10% moves, which so riky because crypto
[2016-08-06 11:07:57] jesperf : doo doo doo who lost half a bitcoin because of cowardness
[2016-08-06 11:08:01] jesperf : I doood
[2016-08-06 11:08:40] jesperf : sneaky chinese dumpers
[2016-08-06 11:13:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 2000 @ 58432.0
[2016-08-06 12:00:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCXBT`: Buy 9189 @ 0.00651
[2016-08-06 12:04:12] bernx : ETC polo:: 500 There : 4800
[2016-08-06 12:04:19] bernx : Nice one just as always
[2016-08-06 12:05:14] kingjay36 : no rekt shorts yet?
[2016-08-06 12:05:40] habibi : wait for it
[2016-08-06 12:05:49] bernx : same price there on etc was already 2.5hours ago
[2016-08-06 12:06:06] bernx : 505
[2016-08-06 12:06:18] kingjay36 : still up 100% with price difference
[2016-08-06 12:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1400 @ 0.004645
[2016-08-06 14:21:50] bernx : Bitmex you are here?
[2016-08-06 14:22:28] rapidtrades : I'm here :)
[2016-08-06 14:22:46] rapidtrades : zane still sleeping
[2016-08-06 14:22:49] rapidtrades : f*cking jew
[2016-08-06 14:23:03] bernx : did you alreade learn about ponzi at BFX?
[2016-08-06 14:23:12] rapidtrades : no do share
[2016-08-06 14:24:49] bernx : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-ceo-seemingly-tried-start-ponzi-scheme/
[2016-08-06 14:26:32] bernx : THIS make me annoing for real. WTF? mark price 1:1 at polo, and this about liq my position
[2016-08-06 14:26:43] bernx : But there is 1835 on ETH
[2016-08-06 14:27:19] bernx : So there is so big spread and liq price = market real price
[2016-08-06 14:27:21] bernx : Nice one
[2016-08-06 14:27:42] rapidtrades : yeah that sucks
[2016-08-06 14:27:47] jesperf : yes, you're really annoying
[2016-08-06 14:27:50] rapidtrades : another frenchman doing an exit scam
[2016-08-06 14:28:05] rapidtrades : first mark now this jew
[2016-08-06 14:30:21] rapidtrades : is mark still in jail or out now?
[2016-08-06 14:30:36] rapidtrades : japs were slow but they wised up to his BS
[2016-08-06 14:30:39] jesperf : he was released on bail
[2016-08-06 14:30:56] rapidtrades : was it in bitcoins?
[2016-08-06 14:31:32] rapidtrades : 1000 frapachinos?
[2016-08-06 14:31:42] jesperf : he loved them long time
[2016-08-06 14:32:01] rapidtrades : fat f*ck
[2016-08-06 14:32:05] jesperf : he's prohibited from leaving japan though
[2016-08-06 14:32:15] rapidtrades : i hope he's gonna be someone's bitch in jail
[2016-08-06 14:33:15] rapidtrades : 9 f*cking hours
[2016-08-06 14:33:47] rapidtrades : no guilty conscience for this f*Cker
[2016-08-06 14:33:53] jesperf : japanese prisons don't seem very hospitable
[2016-08-06 14:34:05] rapidtrades : i hope he died in there
[2016-08-06 14:34:12] rapidtrades : he seems like a sociopath
[2016-08-06 14:34:21] jesperf : nah, death would be sweet release
[2016-08-06 14:34:42] jesperf : they can keep him locked up
[2016-08-06 14:34:56] rapidtrades : he's one of those ppl that will never feel remorse
[2016-08-06 14:36:31] jesperf : smells like i don't exactly have gordon ramsay for a neighbor
[2016-08-06 14:36:57] rapidtrades : in one of zane's last posts he kinda hinted at ALL BTCUSD traders paying the price
[2016-08-06 14:37:02] rapidtrades : previously it was longs only
[2016-08-06 14:37:21] rapidtrades : that will prolly spread the loss but hurt me personally much harder
[2016-08-06 14:38:09] rapidtrades : sleger: got sue money?
[2016-08-06 14:38:52] jesperf : they are probably both prepping the business for a possible resurrection and stuffing their mattresses in case they are forced to jail for some time
[2016-08-06 14:38:54] bernx : Some guys make call to BFX lawyer
[2016-08-06 14:38:55] rapidtrades : he need to get a class action lawsuit going
[2016-08-06 14:39:06] bernx : Lawyers office has an automated message
[2016-08-06 14:39:12] rapidtrades : are u srs?
[2016-08-06 14:39:13] bernx : :D
[2016-08-06 14:39:31] bernx : Finex lawyer: Stuart Hoegner, General Counsel, iFinex Inc., 13/F, 1308 Bank of America Tower, 12 Harcourt Road, Central, Hong Kong, E: stu@bitfinex.com, T: +1 416 545 0001.
[2016-08-06 14:39:31] rapidtrades : lemme try what's the number
[2016-08-06 14:39:35] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-08-06 14:39:55] rapidtrades : and what's the thingy for HK?
[2016-08-06 14:40:00] rapidtrades : is it actually 1 lol
[2016-08-06 14:40:33] jesperf : +1 is USA
[2016-08-06 14:40:41] rapidtrades : but says HK...
[2016-08-06 14:40:48] rapidtrades : what are they doing
[2016-08-06 14:41:58] rapidtrades : it's prolly a skype number
[2016-08-06 14:42:31] bernx : there lawyer is from the US
[2016-08-06 14:43:14] rapidtrades : i called but forgot to put on headset
[2016-08-06 14:43:48] rapidtrades : it's showing me canada not US
[2016-08-06 14:43:55] rapidtrades : on skype
[2016-08-06 14:44:29] bernx : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4w5fdz/collection_of_relevant_bitfinex_corporate/
[2016-08-06 14:44:44] jesperf : US and Canada have the same prefix
[2016-08-06 14:44:57] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-08-06 14:45:11] rapidtrades : WHY IS THEIR NUMBER IN CANADA
[2016-08-06 14:45:41] rapidtrades : like i said prolly a cheap skype number...what a joke of a company
[2016-08-06 14:46:09] jesperf : because mr stu is a canuck
[2016-08-06 14:46:22] jesperf : "Stuart Hoegner is an international cryptocurrency and gaming lawyer and accountant in Canada"
[2016-08-06 14:46:32] rapidtrades : accountant...
[2016-08-06 14:46:49] rapidtrades : man i hope someone sues...this guy will be fried in court
[2016-08-06 14:49:09] rapidtrades : if they split it among everyone will the cut be smaller....cos vast majority were short
[2016-08-06 14:49:16] rapidtrades : they're always short 90%
[2016-08-06 14:49:28] rapidtrades : so won't help much but will f*ck us shorts
[2016-08-06 14:49:55] rapidtrades : i mean vast majority are always long there
[2016-08-06 14:51:24] rapidtrades : [–]zanetackett[S] -7 points 10 hours ago
[2016-08-06 14:51:52] rapidtrades : how much sleep do u need f*cko
[2016-08-06 14:52:01] jesperf : yeah something is fucky
[2016-08-06 14:53:06] rapidtrades : they're doing announcement today but doubt site will be up
[2016-08-06 14:53:07] jesperf : people won't buy this "tonight EST...... late EST" any more
[2016-08-06 14:53:13] rapidtrades : maybe monday
[2016-08-06 14:56:19] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wg17j/waiting_on_zane_be_like/
[2016-08-06 14:56:58] bernx : should i close eth short 1818?
[2016-08-06 14:57:14] bernx : bitmex fuck me up
[2016-08-06 14:59:08] rapidtrades : dude stop trading short term, problem solved
[2016-08-06 14:59:10] jesperf : bernx: it's difficult to trade some contracts here with low liquidity
[2016-08-06 14:59:39] bernx : ye, just press button and buy order dissapear from 1840 to 1818
[2016-08-06 14:59:56] rapidtrades : yeah it sucks
[2016-08-06 15:00:01] rapidtrades : smtimes that happens
[2016-08-06 15:00:06] jesperf : happened to me a lot of times too
[2016-08-06 15:00:24] bernx : ye. and there is trouble bitmex mark price 1835 and polo price (mark price) 1858
[2016-08-06 15:00:26] rapidtrades : dunno if its a glitch or some 'last look' deal with MMers
[2016-08-06 15:00:40] bernx : this is why i hate bitmex
[2016-08-06 15:01:03] jesperf : i just think it's so much slower to place an order via UI rather than the API
[2016-08-06 15:01:22] bernx : my liq price at 1881
[2016-08-06 15:01:25] bernx : this is so bad
[2016-08-06 15:02:01] habibi : don't worry, i will short on ur liquidation
[2016-08-06 15:02:07] bernx : :<
[2016-08-06 15:02:12] jesperf : bernx: put in more margin
[2016-08-06 15:02:16] jesperf : it will go down again
[2016-08-06 15:02:18] rapidtrades : if my Liq price is close I usually get out to avoid paying the extra %
[2016-08-06 15:02:50] bernx : 4h looks like we go down, but 5m about bullish . dunno what to do
[2016-08-06 15:03:10] rapidtrades : idk maybe cut ur size in half
[2016-08-06 15:03:36] rapidtrades : u should plan when to get out BEFORE you get in
[2016-08-06 15:03:50] justinlooking : get out 50
[2016-08-06 15:03:53] justinlooking : *%
[2016-08-06 15:04:23] habibi : u use whole account to play single position?
[2016-08-06 15:04:25] bernx : will do soon if nothing change
[2016-08-06 15:04:39] bernx : just fucked with pos place
[2016-08-06 15:04:39] subjective : bernx: BTC?
[2016-08-06 15:04:45] bernx : ETH
[2016-08-06 15:05:31] jesperf : eth and etc is a risky business for sure
[2016-08-06 15:05:51] subjective : bernx: 15m and 2h tells diff story..
[2016-08-06 15:05:55] jesperf : i swung up and down like crazy, now i'm back at break even and learned my lesson
[2016-08-06 15:05:59] bernx : same for 5m and 4h
[2016-08-06 15:06:01] rapidtrades : i've taken 2 shorts in ETH this year...both times made only small amount of $$$
[2016-08-06 15:06:11] rapidtrades : compared to my risk
[2016-08-06 15:06:27] rapidtrades : vicious short covering on that pair
[2016-08-06 15:06:38] rapidtrades : not sure if its manipulated or what
[2016-08-06 15:07:08] bernx : My indicators show it's like bullish 5m
[2016-08-06 15:07:18] bernx : but there is no price change
[2016-08-06 15:07:46] bernx : So if it don't wanna go up, then it will go down. I hope
[2016-08-06 15:08:26] rapidtrades : if bitcoin goes down, eth may go up
[2016-08-06 15:08:30] subjective : bernx: Bitmex movement is a bit behind
[2016-08-06 15:08:49] rapidtrades : usually does altho it crashed on bitfinex too
[2016-08-06 15:10:04] subjective : if ETH doesn't break now, it might complete the descending triangle/wedge then break
[2016-08-06 15:11:17] rapidtrades : yeah they're definitely making the decision now
[2016-08-06 15:11:32] rapidtrades : prolly weighting how much shit their floated ideas got past few days
[2016-08-06 15:11:47] bernx : woohoo
[2016-08-06 15:12:06] rapidtrades : what...
[2016-08-06 15:12:35] bernx : Na, still don't wanna fall
[2016-08-06 15:13:22] bernx : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QodhXDQDsW0J:https://www.bitfinex.com/security_policy&num=1&hl=en&gl=us&strip=0&vwsrc=0
[2016-08-06 15:13:25] bernx : read this
[2016-08-06 15:13:29] bernx : looks like BFX scam
[2016-08-06 15:15:16] rapidtrades : Only holds minimal amounts (~0.5% of customer funds)
[2016-08-06 15:15:20] rapidtrades : bitgo wallet
[2016-08-06 15:15:25] rapidtrades : like wtf....
[2016-08-06 15:15:37] rapidtrades : how low does this rabbit hole go
[2016-08-06 15:16:13] bernx : 1) There is inside job
[2016-08-06 15:16:19] bernx : 2) There is ton's of lie
[2016-08-06 15:16:22] rapidtrades : Multi-sig Hot wallet
[2016-08-06 15:16:24] bernx : 3) there is lawyer
[2016-08-06 15:16:32] rapidtrades : so there was a hot wallet like we all thought
[2016-08-06 15:16:33] bernx : 4) there is silence
[2016-08-06 15:17:01] rapidtrades : when is that cache from
[2016-08-06 15:17:46] bernx : Jul 28, 2016 05:27:22 GMT.
[2016-08-06 15:18:06] rapidtrades : motherf*ckers
[2016-08-06 15:18:25] rapidtrades : so first they lie then they delete their lies
[2016-08-06 15:18:34] rapidtrades : what's that page now
[2016-08-06 15:20:12] rapidtrades : now everything redirects to their updates
[2016-08-06 15:22:19] bernx : looks like bot hold eth price
[2016-08-06 15:26:49] rapidtrades : man this waiting is killing me
[2016-08-06 15:26:53] WhiteJacket : are any of you using bots guys?
[2016-08-06 15:27:02] rapidtrades : yeah i will soon
[2016-08-06 15:27:07] rapidtrades : once i learn python
[2016-08-06 15:27:22] WhiteJacket : can i ask which kind of strategy?
[2016-08-06 15:27:38] rapidtrades : prolly market making
[2016-08-06 15:28:54] WhiteJacket : interesting
[2016-08-06 15:29:04] WhiteJacket : do you thing there are many bots like that?
[2016-08-06 15:29:43] rapidtrades : a couple
[2016-08-06 15:29:54] rapidtrades : prolly 5+ on swap
[2016-08-06 15:30:15] rapidtrades : micmix has one, sleger prolly runs one still and 2-3 other guys
[2016-08-06 15:30:31] rapidtrades : redo runs one too
[2016-08-06 15:30:34] rapidtrades : rado
[2016-08-06 15:31:04] rapidtrades : prolly 10+ cos lots of unknown ppl who don't chat here
[2016-08-06 15:31:28] WhiteJacket : i've been reading about it buts, plain thats puting limit orders in both buy /sell spread limits right
[2016-08-06 15:31:36] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-08-06 15:31:48] WhiteJacket : do u use trailing?
[2016-08-06 15:32:12] rapidtrades : i don't know, i haven't started it yet
[2016-08-06 15:32:24] rapidtrades : ask the guys i mentioned :)
[2016-08-06 15:32:27] justinlooking : rapid i made new tool i get u screneshot
[2016-08-06 15:32:45] WhiteJacket : is there any way to send PM here?
[2016-08-06 15:32:55] rapidtrades : no
[2016-08-06 15:33:03] WhiteJacket : ok then
[2016-08-06 15:33:04] rapidtrades : don't message sleger tho, he won't help
[2016-08-06 15:33:14] bernx : no idea what happen with ETH
[2016-08-06 15:33:23] Tetsuo : ETH = moon soon
[2016-08-06 15:33:40] rapidtrades : Tetsuo noone cares about u or ur small opinions
[2016-08-06 15:33:46] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: u suck
[2016-08-06 15:33:54] WhiteJacket : rapidtrades: thanks mate
[2016-08-06 15:33:54] rapidtrades : ur mom sucks harder
[2016-08-06 15:35:42] bernx : ETH moon = np. But not like this
[2016-08-06 15:35:59] bernx : Looks more dead cat bounce with some helps from whales
[2016-08-06 15:36:20] justinlooking : http://anony.ws/image/Nnp1 (it no finshd!!)
[2016-08-06 15:36:24] rapidtrades : no sells in over 1h...i would be worried mate
[2016-08-06 15:36:44] bernx : rapidtrades: at what?
[2016-08-06 15:37:12] rapidtrades : eth
[2016-08-06 15:37:34] bernx : rapidtrades: noone sell? where did you see it?
[2016-08-06 15:37:39] justinlooking : it sparkles like xmas tree in fast mkt
[2016-08-06 15:37:48] WhiteJacket : justinlooking: that tool is for see orderbooks or what?
[2016-08-06 15:38:25] WhiteJacket : volumes right?
[2016-08-06 15:38:35] justinlooking : yeh, depth at price on xch'gs
[2016-08-06 15:38:50] rapidtrades : yeah recent trades...i only see BBBBBBBBBBBBB
[2016-08-06 15:39:03] WhiteJacket : well done
[2016-08-06 15:39:38] bernx : rapidtrades: most of them just for hold price, illusion grow
[2016-08-06 15:54:48] bernx : https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/761952856580685824
[2016-08-06 15:56:24] Tetsuo : Soon
[2016-08-06 15:57:50] Tetsuo : " token labeled BFX " lol
[2016-08-06 15:58:28] rapidtrades : pls paste
[2016-08-06 15:58:30] rapidtrades : getting 503
[2016-08-06 15:58:38] justinlooking : http://pastebin.com/efbgvsLu
[2016-08-06 15:59:05] justinlooking : via @MrChrilEllis
[2016-08-06 15:59:13] justinlooking : Chris ffs
[2016-08-06 15:59:13] rapidtrades : After much thought, analysis, and consultation, we have arrived at the conclusion that losses must be generalized across all accounts and assets. This is the closest approximation to what would happen in a liquidation context. Upon logging into the platform, customers will see that they have experienced a generalized loss percentage of 36.067%.
[2016-08-06 15:59:14] rapidtrades : CUNTS
[2016-08-06 15:59:21] rapidtrades : CUNNNTS
[2016-08-06 15:59:35] rapidtrades : how the fu*Ck is that legal
[2016-08-06 15:59:38] rapidtrades : SUE
[2016-08-06 15:59:49] justinlooking : gg gl
[2016-08-06 15:59:52] kingjay36 : how much you guys have in?
[2016-08-06 16:00:20] rapidtrades : i lost over 3k...
[2016-08-06 16:00:22] habibi : rapidtrades: dont cry, 36% cut
[2016-08-06 16:00:45] rapidtrades : 36% cut for what....i had 2 btc and was short
[2016-08-06 16:00:51] kingjay36 : i only had 1 btc there transferred like 2 hrs before hack
[2016-08-06 16:00:54] rapidtrades : they closed me at 604
[2016-08-06 16:01:00] habibi : didnt u see settle prices?
[2016-08-06 16:01:10] habibi : yea. that the risk of our crypto game
[2016-08-06 16:01:20] rapidtrades : so total loss over 4.5k once u factor that in
[2016-08-06 16:01:24] habibi : every exchange can be hacked, not every vulnerability can be discovered
[2016-08-06 16:01:30] justinlooking : hopefully < 5, but not sure because drinking
[2016-08-06 16:01:40] rapidtrades : don't care I'm joining a class action lawsuit
[2016-08-06 16:01:46] rapidtrades : f*Ck em
[2016-08-06 16:02:10] rapidtrades : also they're saying they'll bring it up within 24-48 hrs
[2016-08-06 16:02:12] rapidtrades : like wtf
[2016-08-06 16:02:19] rapidtrades : it was suppose to be yday
[2016-08-06 16:02:38] habibi : gj :) if u will hurry up, officials will close bfx, take everything and in few years u will get ur pennies
[2016-08-06 16:02:47] habibi : hold everything*
[2016-08-06 16:02:48] Tetsuo : Those idiots @ reddit will soon be cheerin all over the place about zane and how finex handled this profesionally
[2016-08-06 16:02:59] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-08-06 16:03:03] rapidtrades : habibi: we'll see about that
[2016-08-06 16:03:25] rapidtrades : ppl are pretty pissed, imo not a penny will go out without 100% compensation
[2016-08-06 16:03:49] rapidtrades : if they find investors fine...if not see my money in 4 years i guess
[2016-08-06 16:04:18] Tetsuo : i still think that no one will see a penny of anything soon. it´s the same shit over and over again, soon, blabla, read-only, bllabla, s00n 48h
[2016-08-06 16:04:29] habibi : yea still better than gox case, dont u think?
[2016-08-06 16:04:53] Tetsuo : no, no one received anything until now
[2016-08-06 16:05:04] bernx : habibi: right now it's the same
[2016-08-06 16:05:32] bernx : ETh 4 times at same level
[2016-08-06 16:05:35] rapidtrades : I guarantee that what they're doing IS NOT LEGAL
[2016-08-06 16:05:44] habibi : bernx: lol, did gox paid out anything ? did u get promise of gox shares? did u got info that they looking for investorts to sort it out with clients?
[2016-08-06 16:05:50] rapidtrades : im not investor in bitfinex they're a custodian of my f*cking money
[2016-08-06 16:06:06] bernx : habibi: do it's not same as "we try"
[2016-08-06 16:06:20] bernx : right now bfx = same gox
[2016-08-06 16:06:34] ersagun : woot
[2016-08-06 16:06:36] ersagun : he announced
[2016-08-06 16:06:55] bernx : he announced another 24-48 as alwasy do past 96 hours
[2016-08-06 16:07:12] Tetsuo : this makes me feel safe, good solutiuons take time : - D
[2016-08-06 16:07:15] habibi : bernx: ffs, why u think they will care about everything in 10 minutes?
[2016-08-06 16:07:38] bernx : they just took your money and haircut you. but keep it good way mate
[2016-08-06 16:07:40] bernx : well dont
[2016-08-06 16:08:02] bernx : i even don't remember about you can't trade/lend last day
[2016-08-06 16:08:07] Tetsuo : there is still a huge chance that the haircut might increase to 100%
[2016-08-06 16:08:10] bernx : but you can still say thanks to he
[2016-08-06 16:08:31] justinlooking : wat
[2016-08-06 16:08:35] habibi : bernx: show me the sollution u would like to have on it?
[2016-08-06 16:08:44] Tetsuo : see Bitstamp
[2016-08-06 16:08:59] bernx : ill talk about wait, before say. right now they only talk
[2016-08-06 16:09:29] ersagun : DAmn.. I literally deposited 30% of my total portfolio on hack day. It's still on my deposit address. But I'm gonna lose 1/3 :-(
[2016-08-06 16:09:30] habibi : Tetsuo: seems like they dont have early adopter on their board willing to pay from its own pocket 120k
[2016-08-06 16:09:49] Tetsuo : i feel for them, hnstly
[2016-08-06 16:10:53] Tetsuo : actually not the clients/traders that are victims it´s the Finex team, poor fellas, where can i donate
[2016-08-06 16:10:59] rapidtrades : ersagun: wanna sue?
[2016-08-06 16:11:06] rapidtrades : im joining a class action
[2016-08-06 16:11:18] rapidtrades : don't have enought to do it on my own tho
[2016-08-06 16:11:32] rapidtrades : sleger: let's sue
[2016-08-06 16:11:48] ersagun : rapidtrades: sue? I cannot, technically not
[2016-08-06 16:12:23] rapidtrades : why not...
[2016-08-06 16:12:24] bernx : Appears all customer assets will receive a 36% haircut
[2016-08-06 16:12:25] bernx : AHAHAHA
[2016-08-06 16:12:35] bernx : looks like ANY assets get haircut
[2016-08-06 16:12:40] rapidtrades : im pissed
[2016-08-06 16:13:08] rapidtrades : it's not even about the 5k, that's not life changing amount for me
[2016-08-06 16:13:12] ersagun : How can I sue a HK-Seychelles company?
[2016-08-06 16:13:20] Tetsuo : lol
[2016-08-06 16:13:21] rapidtrades : it's cause they're forcing it on everyone
[2016-08-06 16:13:28] rullwull : on my opinion law suite is the worst scenario, in fact i was afraid of much bigger haircut, so for me so far it looks much better than i expected)
[2016-08-06 16:13:38] rapidtrades : rullwull: well screw u then
[2016-08-06 16:13:44] sleger : usd not lent should not be haircut
[2016-08-06 16:13:45] rapidtrades : ersagun: class acion lawsuit bro
[2016-08-06 16:13:51] ersagun : rapidtrades: that's the correct thing to do though. Who else could they force?
[2016-08-06 16:13:52] rapidtrades : sleger: exactly
[2016-08-06 16:13:58] rapidtrades : ersagun: THEM
[2016-08-06 16:14:06] sleger : first depositor who requests his money and doesnt get it put bitfinex in bankruptcy
[2016-08-06 16:14:07] rapidtrades : f*Ck em...let's take everything they got
[2016-08-06 16:14:28] rapidtrades : yachts, houses...whatvever
[2016-08-06 16:14:34] bernx : sleger: After much thought, analysis, and consultation, we have arrived at the conclusion that losses must be generalized across all accounts and assets.
[2016-08-06 16:14:34] sleger : (talking about usd deposits which are safe, not crypto)
[2016-08-06 16:14:40] bernx : Do you read it right?
[2016-08-06 16:14:45] sleger : bernx: yes i do
[2016-08-06 16:14:46] bernx : generalized across all accounts and assets
[2016-08-06 16:14:51] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bfxvictims/
[2016-08-06 16:14:57] ersagun : 36% means that they have lost almos all the BTC I believe. considering they having a giant USD balance
[2016-08-06 16:15:14] bernx : ALL ASSETS
[2016-08-06 16:15:47] ersagun : bernx: That's the only valid scenario if you ask me. Other alternative would be bankruptcy
[2016-08-06 16:16:12] rapidtrades : dude...this isn't a f*cking commune
[2016-08-06 16:16:19] rapidtrades : they're a custodian of money
[2016-08-06 16:16:20] bernx : They already bankruptcy
[2016-08-06 16:16:23] rullwull : they lost 120K btc and plenty of fiat from not backed margin positions
[2016-08-06 16:16:32] rapidtrades : they can't redistribute my f*cking money
[2016-08-06 16:16:39] rapidtrades : im not investor in bitfienx
[2016-08-06 16:17:17] bernx : rapidtrades: noone asked wold you like or not :D
[2016-08-06 16:17:49] rapidtrades : like i said, there will be a lawsuti
[2016-08-06 16:17:55] rapidtrades : noone will get a penny in years
[2016-08-06 16:18:05] rullwull : calm down rap) the worst would be if owners choose to give it up
[2016-08-06 16:18:08] sleger : basically they have 30days, after that any usd depositor can take them to bankruptcy court and force administration of bitfinex
[2016-08-06 16:18:14] rapidtrades : they better find investor in the next few days or else
[2016-08-06 16:18:42] bernx : Can someone explain wtf with ETH chart?
[2016-08-06 16:18:49] rapidtrades : sleger: do u want to sue or is this decision favorable to u?
[2016-08-06 16:19:24] rullwull : if they choose to keep business than they do the best to satisfy their users based on the current situation
[2016-08-06 16:19:31] sleger : no its not favorable.
[2016-08-06 16:19:56] rapidtrades : they're not supposed to stay in business, they're completely incompetent @rullwull
[2016-08-06 16:20:02] bernx : They lie about how much BTC store in hot wallet, right? Becouse 120k BTC it's not 0.05%. I also don't understand why ALL assets cut
[2016-08-06 16:20:14] rapidtrades : either they get take over or they go to jail over this
[2016-08-06 16:20:51] bernx : @_@
[2016-08-06 16:21:06] bernx : ETH it's asset too?
[2016-08-06 16:21:08] justinlooking : any plaintiffs risk law fees to get same outcome imo
[2016-08-06 16:21:26] rapidtrades : that's why we're forming a class action lawsuit bro
[2016-08-06 16:21:31] bernx : What they would do with "cut" assets? sell? or what?
[2016-08-06 16:21:34] rapidtrades : we're not gonna all individually sue
[2016-08-06 16:22:40] rapidtrades : 'This is the outcome that our team and legal counsel arrived at as the best decision'
[2016-08-06 16:22:48] rapidtrades : and u and ur shitty accountant
[2016-08-06 16:23:14] rapidtrades : they don't even have a proper lawyer
[2016-08-06 16:24:45] justinlooking : same applies to class aciton imo
[2016-08-06 16:24:52] justinlooking : bankrekts them,causing liq all assets and re-distribution to creditors ( and lawyers)
[2016-08-06 16:26:00] rapidtrades : i see no other way...even if I don't sue smone else will
[2016-08-06 16:26:23] rapidtrades : there's plenty of pissed off ppl out there, it's inevitable after this 'solution'
[2016-08-06 16:26:56] rapidtrades : it's just not a defensible position from a legal standpoint
[2016-08-06 16:27:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 104000 @ 569.22 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-06 16:27:46] sleger : i thought the initial solution they had (only btc and usd lent) would buy them more time as it is harder to dispute in court (since bitcoin is not money)
[2016-08-06 16:27:58] sleger : this one, in 30d it's done
[2016-08-06 16:28:44] rapidtrades : yeah and we're not gonna see anything for 4-5 years
[2016-08-06 16:29:35] jesperf : china liked the news?
[2016-08-06 16:29:41] justinlooking : so ummm... shouldn't markets be having a massive dump now?
[2016-08-06 16:29:55] jesperf : why am i not in a position? i had a big fat long this morning
[2016-08-06 16:30:13] bernx : jesperf: ETC?
[2016-08-06 16:30:17] rapidtrades : tbh i would prefer 66% to potentially 90% in 5 years...but smone will sue to stop this, im almost certain of this
[2016-08-06 16:30:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 8000 @ 572.55
[2016-08-06 16:30:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 50039 @ 573.51 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-06 16:30:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 155 @ 574.14
[2016-08-06 16:30:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5555 @ 574.44
[2016-08-06 16:30:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 75 @ 573.89
[2016-08-06 16:30:54] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2016-08-06 16:30:54] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 20000 @ 574.99 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-06 16:30:54] justinlooking : obv not!
[2016-08-06 16:30:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 575.58
[2016-08-06 16:31:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1333 @ 576.87
[2016-08-06 16:31:23] jesperf : bernx: xbtusd of course
[2016-08-06 16:31:43] jesperf : bernx: i think you need some english lessons, you're very hard to understand and seem to have trouble understanding us
[2016-08-06 16:32:33] bernx : jesperf: ofc, i'm from Russia mate
[2016-08-06 16:33:06] wotan : nice spike whats the news?
[2016-08-06 16:33:09] jesperf : :)
[2016-08-06 16:33:10] bernx : There is English lesson you
[2016-08-06 16:33:11] justinlooking : hmmm how are finex gunna put btc into ppls accounts? they have no btc!
[2016-08-06 16:33:20] bernx : wotan: BFX news
[2016-08-06 16:33:32] Zyzz : what just happent to BTC
[2016-08-06 16:33:43] mjmj83 : Guys seen this? http://blog.bitfinex.com/uncategorized/bitfinex-interim-update/
[2016-08-06 16:33:47] wotan : bernx need to read them thanks
[2016-08-06 16:33:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 120 @ 0.004571
[2016-08-06 16:34:03] mjmj83 : "Upon logging into the platform, customers will see that they have experienced a generalized loss percentage of 36.067%. In a later announcement we will explain in full detail the methodology used to compute these losses."
[2016-08-06 16:34:23] wotan : so the loss is not so big like expected?
[2016-08-06 16:34:30] mjmj83 : Seems like it.
[2016-08-06 16:34:50] Zyzz : pottercoin
[2016-08-06 16:35:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 4 @ 0.004492 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-06 16:35:09] bernx : Someone can explain what they will do with ALL assets, which they cut?
[2016-08-06 16:35:27] bernx : ETH asset too, so they sell it? or where it go after cut?
[2016-08-06 16:36:05] mjmj83 : They will explain it later.
[2016-08-06 16:38:57] bernx : TA says about btc go deep, news - BTC up. Nice again working TA!
[2016-08-06 16:39:06] Zyzz : dang btc
[2016-08-06 16:39:17] rapidtrades : everything will crash once they get that cease and desist letter
[2016-08-06 16:39:52] rapidtrades : bernx: everything u have, 36% cut
[2016-08-06 16:39:56] Zyzz : if i invest 1BTC then it says 10%ROE that means 0.1 BTC correct`?
[2016-08-06 16:40:15] sleger : so bfx steals usd and eth to buy back about 80k btc, price is going to go up that's why everyone buying now
[2016-08-06 16:40:35] rapidtrades : ah i see ur point
[2016-08-06 16:40:52] bernx : yes, ill about what happen
[2016-08-06 16:41:05] habibi : sleger: they not buying anything
[2016-08-06 16:41:09] rapidtrades : sleger: i think they will liquidate all to USD at 604
[2016-08-06 16:41:18] wotan : good if you hold btc there bad if you hold usd or eth there
[2016-08-06 16:41:32] wotan : pure socialism
[2016-08-06 16:41:38] justinlooking : ^
[2016-08-06 16:41:43] Zyzz : anyone?
[2016-08-06 16:41:46] rapidtrades : this can't be a plat set in stone..if it was they would allow us to login
[2016-08-06 16:41:47] sleger : rapidtrades: liquidate ? they are missing btc and have too much usd
[2016-08-06 16:42:03] habibi : once again do u have better decission for all investorts? or only better for ur own particural asset case
[2016-08-06 16:42:05] rapidtrades : tokens? are u kidding me? u can't run a financial company like this
[2016-08-06 16:42:09] rapidtrades : this is one big joke
[2016-08-06 16:42:22] rapidtrades : and their layer is an idiot
[2016-08-06 16:42:22] sleger : no usd was stolen, yet they are taking 35% of it, that's to repay part of the stolen btc, so they have to buy
[2016-08-06 16:42:42] bernx : https://twitter.com/CryptoRogue/status/761965562025172993?lang=en
[2016-08-06 16:43:18] habibi : or they will give back in assets that they have on their service
[2016-08-06 16:43:40] rapidtrades : can u imagine if a forex broker tried to get away with this? guys we lost some money but here's some worthless tokens and we're gonna spread the loss across everyone
[2016-08-06 16:43:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1000 @ 578.62
[2016-08-06 16:44:32] wotan : i had the same when bter was hacked they gave us promise tokens and said to pay back but never happened
[2016-08-06 16:44:49] rapidtrades : well shit, I didn't like that 36% of my @bitfinex balance anyway.
[2016-08-06 16:44:54] rapidtrades : this guy is funny
[2016-08-06 16:45:16] wotan : rapidtrades: you had btc, usd or alts there?
[2016-08-06 16:45:27] wotan : china likes the news
[2016-08-06 16:46:00] rapidtrades : mostly usd
[2016-08-06 16:46:11] rapidtrades : i was also mega short...which they closed at 604
[2016-08-06 16:46:28] rapidtrades : so double-raped
[2016-08-06 16:46:58] wotan : rapidtrades: damn sorry to hear, iwas mega long just hours before the hack went official
[2016-08-06 16:47:41] rapidtrades : no worries
[2016-08-06 16:48:08] rapidtrades : so what do we do now...site will not be up for 1-2 days
[2016-08-06 16:48:18] rapidtrades : just waiting for that lawsuit to drop?
[2016-08-06 16:48:59] rapidtrades : sleger: what do we do?
[2016-08-06 16:49:26] bernx : I think there is good chance to short ETC/ETH, if they will sell assets
[2016-08-06 16:49:29] bernx : to buy BTC
[2016-08-06 16:50:53] Zyzz : maybe a little short on BTC? most likely a little pullback
[2016-08-06 16:50:56] wotan : question is how much they hold from it
[2016-08-06 16:51:47] rapidtrades : they won't do shit....now they just floated this solution and waiitng for the blowback
[2016-08-06 16:52:37] jesperf : they're in a funny position of being able to manipulate the market
[2016-08-06 16:53:04] Tetsuo : they wouldn´t do that coz trustworthy as fuck
[2016-08-06 16:53:45] jesperf : china is having second thoughts
[2016-08-06 16:57:21] bernx : BTC-e zero fees for motnhs
[2016-08-06 16:57:55] bernx : Think i know who would be hacked next time
[2016-08-06 16:58:48] Tetsuo : they also increased chat limit to 1000$ to lure in more fools to deposit money before they do the exit scam
[2016-08-06 16:59:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 8556 @ 0.004381
[2016-08-06 16:59:21] bernx : Good bless BFX. Ill was not liquidated :D
[2016-08-06 16:59:41] rapidtrades : bernx: what zero fees?
[2016-08-06 16:59:51] bernx : rapidtrades: for trading
[2016-08-06 16:59:56] rapidtrades : huh
[2016-08-06 17:00:19] jesperf : https://btc-e.com/news/231
[2016-08-06 17:01:36] rapidtrades : it's their anniversary u ahole @bernx
[2016-08-06 17:01:48] jesperf : they only did it for 24 h last year
[2016-08-06 17:01:59] rapidtrades : but its 5 years
[2016-08-06 17:02:01] Tetsuo : could some pro here tell me, how the settlement at Bitfinex will work? they just close those 40m in longs into what exactly?
[2016-08-06 17:02:08] rapidtrades : yeah its fishy as f*Ck
[2016-08-06 17:02:40] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: into ur mom's vagina
[2016-08-06 17:02:46] Tetsuo : : - (
[2016-08-06 17:03:01] rapidtrades : they'll close em at 604
[2016-08-06 17:03:06] rapidtrades : same with shorts
[2016-08-06 17:03:53] Tetsuo : i understand the procedure, but not who or what is actually buyin all those longs
[2016-08-06 17:04:14] Tetsuo : zane the saviour tacket maybe?
[2016-08-06 17:05:24] rapidtrades : yeah ping him on reddit
[2016-08-06 17:07:12] Tetsuo : his answer will probably be: " we have to think about that, and will give u information about it asap" *crowd is cheering*
[2016-08-06 17:07:41] rapidtrades : they can cheer all they want....this isn't a democracy
[2016-08-06 17:08:45] Tetsuo : huge stockholm syndrome goin on @ reddit
[2016-08-06 17:09:20] habibi : agree with general opinion, despite i didnt hold penny @finex
[2016-08-06 17:10:30] rapidtrades : doesn't matter, the law's the law
[2016-08-06 17:10:53] rapidtrades : they're officially bankrupt until they find an investor
[2016-08-06 17:12:27] Tetsuo : @Bitmex will you add Finexcoin for trading here?
[2016-08-06 17:17:23] Tetsuo : still no information from Finex about how the hack happened, i guess we all just have to believe that it *did*
[2016-08-06 17:17:40] habibi : lol coz there is ongoing investigation? i will get every detail on it
[2016-08-06 17:17:46] habibi : when the time come
[2016-08-06 17:18:28] Tetsuo : so they don´t know how it happened but they will relaunch the site in24-48h, sounds promising
[2016-08-06 17:18:41] ersagun : Guys, when was the exact time (UTC-GMT) the hack happened?
[2016-08-06 17:18:52] bernx : thus fucking spread in ETC
[2016-08-06 17:20:45] Tetsuo : Gox at least was creatice and invented a story about the malleability issue , Finex is even too arrogant to come up with some good lies
[2016-08-06 17:23:19] bernx : PSA: There's a very real chance Finex will liquidate 36.07% of its $ETH $ETC & $LTC holdings over the next 72 hours. Not FUD just caution..
[2016-08-06 17:23:31] habibi : bernx: thats u info?
[2016-08-06 17:23:44] bernx : twitter rumors
[2016-08-06 17:23:58] habibi : ;)
[2016-08-06 17:23:59] bernx : but in case "all assets" may be real
[2016-08-06 17:24:11] Zyzz : bernx: stopp spamming Collin Crypto tweets. he sucks
[2016-08-06 17:24:26] bernx : Where did i spam it?
[2016-08-06 17:24:28] habibi : fud, but its great buy occassion
[2016-08-06 17:25:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1521 @ 0.004219
[2016-08-06 17:25:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 488 @ 0.004229
[2016-08-06 17:25:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.004233
[2016-08-06 17:26:42] bernx : Well i think check wallets of exchange its's good idea
[2016-08-06 17:30:39] Tetsuo : http://www.cftc.gov/consumerprotection/fileatiporcomplaint/index.htm
[2016-08-06 17:31:02] rapidtrades : great but that's for americans
[2016-08-06 17:31:30] rapidtrades : they can't get away with this, they're too big
[2016-08-06 17:31:34] Tetsuo : i just sent a complaint, even if i´m not american and didn´t have anything on Finex. I just want them to be dead eternally
[2016-08-06 17:31:43] rapidtrades : tnx man