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[2016-08-05 20:01:04] Rado : there is no best way
[2016-08-05 20:01:09] Rado : they are stalling
[2016-08-05 20:01:36] Rado : I think they know they are done and don't know how to admit it yet
[2016-08-05 20:02:11] rapidtrades : theyre floating ideas to see which ones cause the least shit
[2016-08-05 20:02:20] Rado : right
[2016-08-05 20:02:42] Rado : anything short of we will give you all BTC back will bankrupt them
[2016-08-05 20:03:01] Rado : giving the BTC back might bankrupt them as well, but at least there is a change to raise some money
[2016-08-05 20:12:16] Rado : 570-580 is resistance for BTC
[2016-08-05 20:12:30] Rado : not going to break it before any Bitfinex resolution
[2016-08-05 20:19:37] rapidtrades : stalling followed by bankruptcy announcement
[2016-08-05 20:20:00] rapidtrades : dunno if authorities will allow them to 'socialize' losses anyway
[2016-08-05 20:20:56] rapidtrades : at this point lawyers have to get involved i think
[2016-08-05 20:21:04] jesperf : some fools on reddit wanted to donate btc to them
[2016-08-05 20:23:32] rapidtrades : yeah right
[2016-08-05 20:30:16] Rado : ha ha
[2016-08-05 20:30:22] Rado : I will not be against that
[2016-08-05 20:30:36] Rado : crypto community to donate 120k BTC to bitfinex
[2016-08-05 20:55:49] jesperf : okcoin is weird
[2016-08-05 21:00:15] jesperf : someone is having fun painting with candles
[2016-08-05 21:01:34] jesperf : let's see if they break 3780 any time soon now
[2016-08-05 21:32:11] Rado : jesperf: break will be on the downside imo
[2016-08-05 21:32:36] Rado : there is always some kind of re test
[2016-08-05 22:15:00] Zyzz : Hey
[2016-08-05 22:38:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 74138 @ 573.08 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-05 23:03:14] Zyzz : REKT: short? good luck with that one :D
[2016-08-05 23:05:25] jesperf : Zyzz: REKT is a bot who posts to this chat whenever there are liquidations
[2016-08-05 23:10:54] zanza : rumor is Bitfinex has not contacted ANY authorities. Zane refuses to say a single investigation body looking into the theft of customer funds
[2016-08-05 23:14:01] Tetsuo : I am shocked!
[2016-08-05 23:16:32] jesperf : Tetsuo: stop playing with electrical eels!
[2016-08-05 23:17:20] Tetsuo : Rumor is that Finex never had enough real customer to lend 43mUSD . And most of those where madeup Finexbux created out of thin Air. This system was about to collapse---> publish a story of beein hacked and robbed. Source: Me
[2016-08-05 23:18:09] jesperf : rumors are bad, they keep the price down
[2016-08-05 23:18:17] jesperf : we want hard facts
[2016-08-05 23:18:18] habibi : why 43m usd?
[2016-08-05 23:20:04] Tetsuo : That was about the top of the crazy creddit Bubble over there last time I checked bfxdata.com which was about2_3 weeks ago. Could have been 2-3m more maybe
[2016-08-05 23:22:21] Zyzz : btc up or down
[2016-08-05 23:22:55] Tetsuo : To the core
[2016-08-05 23:22:57] jesperf : seems like slowly up is the way right now
[2016-08-05 23:23:37] jesperf : sneaking back until more killing news is released
[2016-08-05 23:24:19] Tetsuo : jesperf: +1
[2016-08-05 23:24:28] Zyzz : jesperf: its always nice to get some coins on discount :)
[2016-08-05 23:24:57] Tetsuo : Real discount Starts below 100$
[2016-08-05 23:26:01] Zyzz : Tetsuo: don't think we will se that anytime soon
[2016-08-05 23:26:02] jesperf : it will not go that low. bitfinex is not that important to bitcoin
[2016-08-05 23:26:37] jesperf : the market got really scared because it didn't know the gravity of it all. now it has a general ballpark figure and is adjusting accordingly
[2016-08-05 23:27:57] jesperf : but bitfinex is not and will not be the last exchange to get hacked
[2016-08-05 23:28:28] Zyzz : jesperf: hopefully the hacking will help on the security part
[2016-08-05 23:29:11] jesperf : sure, it wakes everyone up and makes them realize it's an urgent matter
[2016-08-05 23:29:29] jesperf : people are lazy. it's more fun raking in the trading fees than actually securing the site
[2016-08-05 23:30:13] Zyzz : jesperf: how long have you used bitmex for?
[2016-08-05 23:30:46] jesperf : but bitfinex was an especially sour apple. it was known that they were built upon a shady platform. people ignored it because americans needed somewhere to trade with leverage and short
[2016-08-05 23:31:17] jesperf : Zyzz: I made my first deposit here in June last year
[2016-08-05 23:32:17] Zyzz : jesperf: cool cool. What is your current trade position(s)?
[2016-08-05 23:33:03] jesperf : i am long xbtusd
[2016-08-05 23:33:24] Tetsuo : Who's next? Kraken, Poloniex or BTC-E? I think it might be BTC-E doin an exit scam.
[2016-08-05 23:34:08] Zyzz : Tetsuo: lol
[2016-08-05 23:45:45] jesperf : kim dotcom's idea is cool
[2016-08-05 23:48:13] Zyzz : yepp
[2016-08-05 23:51:22] ax : Tetsuo: bitmex?
[2016-08-05 23:53:19] Rado : jesperf: what is his idea
[2016-08-05 23:53:31] Rado : I don't understand what is the benefit to the user
[2016-08-05 23:55:24] jesperf : Rado: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4w83fk/kim_dotcom_on_twitter_every_megaupload_file/d65258u
[2016-08-05 23:56:40] jesperf : this is also interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vtuxo/bitfinex_security_breach_trading_will_be_halted/d662pre?context=3
[2016-08-05 23:57:18] Rado : it's an OK idea, but will never work
[2016-08-05 23:57:25] Rado : no one will pay for downloads
[2016-08-05 23:57:28] Zyzz : Rado: how come?
[2016-08-05 23:57:42] Zyzz : Rado: 0.01$ for a dl is not mutch
[2016-08-05 23:57:49] jesperf : plenty of people already pay for downloads at filesharing sites
[2016-08-05 23:57:52] Rado : I know it's not
[2016-08-05 23:57:59] Rado : but what kind of download?
[2016-08-05 23:58:07] Rado : If we are talking about a movie for example
[2016-08-05 23:58:16] Rado : first it's illegal and it will not cost 0.01
[2016-08-05 23:58:24] Zyzz : could be anything people upload. A-Z
[2016-08-05 23:58:29] Rado : if we are talking about some stupid file then I will not pay 0.01
[2016-08-05 23:58:39] Zyzz : Rado: stupid file like what?
[2016-08-05 23:59:02] Rado : give me an example for something that you would pay
[2016-08-06 00:00:10] Zyzz : Rado: tell me the last time you downloaded some "stupid file" you downloaded from megaupload like sites. I would pay for movies, shows, programs etc. Pretty mutch anything i need to download from sites like that?
[2016-08-06 00:00:34] Rado : that is the problem
[2016-08-06 00:00:40] Rado : he can not sell you the movie for 0.01
[2016-08-06 00:00:45] Rado : because it's not his movie to sell
[2016-08-06 00:01:00] Rado : so why would you pay for something illegal
[2016-08-06 00:01:03] Rado : you already can do that for free
[2016-08-06 00:01:18] Rado : if you want it legal you have to pay $5
[2016-08-06 00:02:11] Rado : if it's user generated content then it might work
[2016-08-06 00:02:23] Zyzz : Rado: Did you even use Megaupload when it was out?
[2016-08-06 00:02:25] Rado : but I don't think his site does that
[2016-08-06 00:02:34] Rado : I never used Megaupload
[2016-08-06 00:03:09] Zyzz : Rado: half of the things there was pirated/illegal. People are always looking for cheaper ways to get things.
[2016-08-06 00:03:10] zanza : wont this just flood the network with small microtransactions?
[2016-08-06 00:03:30] zanza : also, seems centralized, so wont the LEO shut it down ?
[2016-08-06 00:04:31] Zyzz : zanza: i bet he got some plans. It seems positive. I like this tweet :D https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/761380995824168960
[2016-08-06 00:05:21] zanza : hmm
[2016-08-06 00:05:45] Rado : lol
[2016-08-06 00:05:46] jesperf : he has a solution for not flooding the network
[2016-08-06 00:06:03] Rado : he has a big ego
[2016-08-06 00:06:13] jesperf : also a really big tummy
[2016-08-06 00:06:20] Zyzz : jesperf: +1
[2016-08-06 00:06:22] Rado : he thinks he will be responsible for BTC going to $2000
[2016-08-06 00:06:46] Rado : this is just advertising
[2016-08-06 00:07:12] Zyzz : if you have not watched kim's music video yet check it out. its funny, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDiili2Gs-0
[2016-08-06 00:53:28] jesperf : this is comedy gold: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wax6z/the_communication_from_bitfinex_so_far_has_been/d664ppg?context=3
[2016-08-06 01:02:48] negamax : hey guys what is withheld profit?
[2016-08-06 01:03:22] zanza : its going to BitFinex victims fund
[2016-08-06 01:04:11] jesperf : obviously
[2016-08-06 01:07:41] zanza : BitMEX stands in solidarity with BitFinex. To show our support, we will be allocating half of all traders profits and putting them towards BitFinex victim fund.
[2016-08-06 01:11:27] jesperf : All against must answer within five minutes.
[2016-08-06 01:49:18] Skitrx : whales on bitstamp determned to keep the price up
[2016-08-06 01:49:20] Skitrx : i don't get it
[2016-08-06 02:07:03] zanza : I think China rules the market now
[2016-08-06 02:18:51] rapidtrades : great now zane is saying 'update tonight'
[2016-08-06 02:18:59] rapidtrades : meaning we won't see the site up tonight
[2016-08-06 02:38:14] laisee : manana
[2016-08-06 02:39:10] Mangalica : "tonight" as in "late EST"
[2016-08-06 02:55:51] rapidtrades : woking on announcement right now...whatever that means
[2016-08-06 03:21:00] willybot : would be good if we could arb bitmex
[2016-08-06 03:21:18] willybot : some serious price lag on the ETC market
[2016-08-06 03:52:34] sharpie0101 : price lag may mean the market is isolated from other markets
[2016-08-06 03:54:50] Rado : sharpie0101: what does that mean
[2016-08-06 03:58:26] willybot : its a huge discrepancy
[2016-08-06 04:10:00] Rado : here is one theory
[2016-08-06 04:10:13] Rado : someone is buying a lot of ETC spot
[2016-08-06 04:10:18] Rado : and shorting here to hedge
[2016-08-06 04:10:54] willybot : its costing them a lot of money in spread and will hurt when they need to cover
[2016-08-06 04:11:12] Rado : they are not going to cover
[2016-08-06 04:11:18] Rado : they want to make money with spot
[2016-08-06 04:11:41] Rado : take ETC bak over 0.006
[2016-08-06 04:14:49] willybot : it only takes 50 btc to game this market, I think someones having a play
[2016-08-06 04:16:44] willybot : Bitmex will kill his place if they allow blatant manipulation to run rampant on contracts
[2016-08-06 04:28:17] smagin07 : why did my XBTU16 just rebalance?
[2016-08-06 04:28:38] smagin07 : I thought it wasn't supposed to expire until October?
[2016-08-06 04:36:56] smagin07 : are there any Admins here?
[2016-08-06 04:45:28] AZZEK : yeah I have a feeling a whale is hedging a position by going short here...
[2016-08-06 04:45:36] AZZEK : should be a wicked bounce when he gets called
[2016-08-06 04:56:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCXBT`: Buy 9689 @ 0.00644
[2016-08-06 05:09:08] Rado : smagin07: it rebalances every Friday
[2016-08-06 05:29:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 18906 @ 562.14
[2016-08-06 05:31:25] ersagun : any idea about the sudden drop?
[2016-08-06 05:37:32] subjective : ppl start to short, if BFX goes bankcorupt
[2016-08-06 05:37:59] ersagun : don't you think it's a bit too late for that? :-) I still don't get how the price bounced back to 570
[2016-08-06 05:38:04] subjective : lucky, got out earlier this morning to watch the market.
[2016-08-06 05:38:46] subjective : it's punching through 1H kumo cloud, probably drop more after 550
[2016-08-06 05:39:10] subjective : if BFX going to release some update in a few hours, then insider already have the knowledge.
[2016-08-06 05:50:11] subjective : Blame china, they initiated this drop
[2016-08-06 05:50:53] gg : any news from bfx?
[2016-08-06 05:51:16] gg : i didnt see anything, so just the good ol OKC dump o clock
[2016-08-06 05:51:23] gg : ?
[2016-08-06 05:54:00] subjective : this is not over yet, RSI is lowest since 72 hours ago
[2016-08-06 05:57:43] ersagun : gg: no, still preparing the announcement :-)
[2016-08-06 05:58:50] gg : subjective, you suggesting oversold already?
[2016-08-06 06:00:51] subjective : not over yet.
[2016-08-06 06:02:07] mike1000 : subjective: what TF?
[2016-08-06 06:03:05] subjective : once BFX goes bankrupt, then there are some dark time ahead of us.
[2016-08-06 06:06:41] subjective : mike1000: what do you mean?
[2016-08-06 06:07:16] mike1000 : subjective: which time frame do you look for the lowest Rsi? 1H?
[2016-08-06 06:07:59] subjective : both 1h/15m
[2016-08-06 06:08:42] subjective : since the dump, it's rather low 1h (RSI 38)
[2016-08-06 06:22:18] subjective : Zane's latest Reddit comment "I realize that missing this deadline again is not good"
[2016-08-06 06:23:10] bernx : One of the biggest exchange, lol
[2016-08-06 06:29:55] subjective : who is going to short BFX announcement?
[2016-08-06 06:33:14] rapidtrades : is the announcement now or after they wake up
[2016-08-06 06:34:25] rapidtrades : I tried to get everything ready tonight, but everything still needs to go through final review. My sincere apologies''
[2016-08-06 06:34:56] rapidtrades : looks like ahole needs another 'good night sleep'
[2016-08-06 06:35:26] subjective : he copy & pasted to a bunch of threads, he seems very tired.
[2016-08-06 06:35:47] rapidtrades : i hope he gets cancer
[2016-08-06 06:37:22] subjective : that is not very nice
[2016-08-06 06:39:16] lockhedge : it's not zane's fault, the bosses made a decision about the next steps, he drafted a statement, now it has to be "reviewed" (probably their lawyers couldn't give a green light yet)
[2016-08-06 07:19:31] rapidtrades : yeah they've gone to bed now
[2016-08-06 07:19:39] rapidtrades : feck them all
[2016-08-06 07:41:05] bernx : nice short on low ETH
[2016-08-06 07:44:23] zanza : rofl rapidtrades
[2016-08-06 07:44:36] zanza : i got crush on SPY today
[2016-08-06 07:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 10 @ 0.01859
[2016-08-06 07:51:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 80 @ 0.01844
[2016-08-06 07:52:28] rapidtrades : zanza: stop shorting :)
[2016-08-06 07:52:40] zanza : i can't stop
[2016-08-06 07:52:46] zanza : need to recoup loss
[2016-08-06 07:53:14] rapidtrades : that;s a good way to go broke my friend
[2016-08-06 07:58:40] zanza : ETC making a break to 50 ?
[2016-08-06 08:00:44] zanza : https://i.redditmedia.com/BVYA-nEYJ8mZPegNifZzwLogrJjaVfpBQKKH3eM4KwE.png?w=640&s=efcd6719c2dbdaed5f8fed6ab2e1cbc9
[2016-08-06 08:01:00] bernx : zanza: ahahah
[2016-08-06 08:17:36] rapidtrades : i don't see how they can legally socialize anything after touting ''segregated wallets'' for so long
[2016-08-06 08:18:01] rapidtrades : seems like an easy lawsuit to win
[2016-08-06 08:19:28] zanza : sounds like they are just stalling now to possible clean up their tracks
[2016-08-06 08:20:01] rapidtrades : maybe stamp's investor whoever that is can step in
[2016-08-06 08:20:09] rapidtrades : or coinbase...they have shitton of cash
[2016-08-06 08:20:42] zanza : coinbase just had to raise fees, I don't think they have lot of cash
[2016-08-06 08:20:50] zanza : other than VC/investment
[2016-08-06 08:21:00] rapidtrades : a LOT of vc invstment
[2016-08-06 08:21:05] rapidtrades : isn't it over 100mil
[2016-08-06 08:21:20] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/bfxvictims/comments/4w987w/state_of_bfx_losses/
[2016-08-06 08:21:30] rapidtrades : guys there saying finex made 1-2 mil gross
[2016-08-06 08:21:43] zanza : per month ?
[2016-08-06 08:21:47] rapidtrades : yea
[2016-08-06 08:22:09] zanza : 5 years recoup time
[2016-08-06 08:22:10] zanza : lol
[2016-08-06 08:22:15] rapidtrades : that's ntohing
[2016-08-06 08:22:25] zanza : except, no one will trade there again
[2016-08-06 08:22:29] rapidtrades : plus they'll add a shitton of voume
[2016-08-06 08:22:33] zanza : ADD???
[2016-08-06 08:22:34] rapidtrades : no man, coinbase
[2016-08-06 08:22:52] rapidtrades : take it over, fire everyone
[2016-08-06 08:22:56] zanza : oh, um the thing is Coinbase is SUPER compliant
[2016-08-06 08:23:04] rapidtrades : fair point
[2016-08-06 08:23:07] zanza : and Finex was pretty shoestring
[2016-08-06 08:23:22] zanza : idk, maybe if they can buy it for super cheap
[2016-08-06 08:23:29] rapidtrades : like 1 dollah
[2016-08-06 08:23:43] zanza : well, we will see
[2016-08-06 08:24:08] rapidtrades : either that or get sued
[2016-08-06 08:25:09] zanza : maybe, they are out of British Virgin Islands
[2016-08-06 08:25:29] rapidtrades : monthly volume looks around 600k
[2016-08-06 08:25:32] zanza : whos gunna fly there ? :)
[2016-08-06 08:26:45] rapidtrades : so that's 500k
[2016-08-06 08:26:57] rapidtrades : in fees bullpark
[2016-08-06 08:27:13] rapidtrades : dunno how they're coming up with 1-2mil
[2016-08-06 08:29:21] elmorte : inside trading
[2016-08-06 08:29:50] zanza : Finex gunna make statement soon
[2016-08-06 08:29:51] rapidtrades : no dummy the ppl in that thread
[2016-08-06 08:30:00] rapidtrades : zanza: they're sleeping man
[2016-08-06 08:31:11] rapidtrades : in that thread they're saying finex made 1-2mil per month
[2016-08-06 08:31:16] elmorte : don't you knock my popular answer
[2016-08-06 08:31:40] elmorte : I had a dream that finex came back online...
[2016-08-06 08:32:11] elmorte : and my ETH went from 17 to 19 so I was rich...
[2016-08-06 08:32:20] rapidtrades : acutally it is 1 mil
[2016-08-06 08:32:28] rapidtrades : cos both sides pay the fee
[2016-08-06 08:32:43] elmorte : .14/.24 iirc
[2016-08-06 08:32:47] rapidtrades : around 600k-1mil depending on limit/market
[2016-08-06 08:33:44] rapidtrades : and they have like 5 employees
[2016-08-06 08:34:28] rapidtrades : 1 PR guy, Phil in the back office and 1 coder
[2016-08-06 08:34:32] rapidtrades : 2 CEOs
[2016-08-06 08:35:29] elmorte : I bet you it was Phil
[2016-08-06 08:35:33] elmorte : That fckin guy...
[2016-08-06 08:36:53] rapidtrades : 9 out of 10 inside jobs are performed by a guy named Phil
[2016-08-06 08:36:58] rapidtrades : FACT
[2016-08-06 08:37:29] habibi : rapidtrades: 24 employeers u ignorant
[2016-08-06 08:38:20] rapidtrades : habibi: F*CK U AND YOUR WHORE MONTHER
[2016-08-06 08:38:25] rapidtrades : *mother
[2016-08-06 08:38:36] habibi : i see nothing changed :)
[2016-08-06 08:38:38] elmorte : ah that's more like it.
[2016-08-06 08:39:04] rapidtrades : even if its 24...how much are they paying them? 5 dollah?
[2016-08-06 08:39:40] rapidtrades : so $120 dollah total...that leaves 599,880 - 999,880 dollah
[2016-08-06 08:42:22] rapidtrades : im guessing they don't want to get take over...seems like an easy play for coinbase
[2016-08-06 08:42:38] rapidtrades : or some chinese site...they're swimminng in dollah
[2016-08-06 08:44:49] zanza : If Finex is shutting down, I think they are trying to decide if they should just pocket ALL funds
[2016-08-06 08:45:03] zanza : and let courts sell the company
[2016-08-06 08:45:50] rapidtrades : i don't think they're shutting down....aholes want to keep their jobs
[2016-08-06 08:46:30] rapidtrades : 5 year to get back ur investment is not a lot for businesses..they're an easy takeover target
[2016-08-06 08:48:47] zanza : why is negative premium here?
[2016-08-06 08:48:57] zanza : big price drop coming ?
[2016-08-06 08:49:04] rapidtrades : because sentiment is negative
[2016-08-06 08:49:13] rapidtrades : been this way for days now since finex
[2016-08-06 08:49:47] zanza : heavy shorts could mean insider info
[2016-08-06 08:49:51] rapidtrades : okc futures also at discount
[2016-08-06 08:50:27] rapidtrades : i think it's just sentiment shot...biggest USD exchange is down
[2016-08-06 08:50:55] rapidtrades : it wasn't an obvious scam like gox so many ppl could quit crypto over this
[2016-08-06 08:50:59] justinlooking : rqbid, y u dislike itbit?
[2016-08-06 08:51:42] rapidtrades : who?
[2016-08-06 08:52:44] zanza : eh, i saw how many problems that place had
[2016-08-06 08:52:54] zanza : never was interested to trade there
[2016-08-06 08:56:56] rapidtrades : man i had 3 btc just sitting on finex in my exchange wallet...not even needed for margin
[2016-08-06 08:57:27] rapidtrades : complete waste...too lazy to withdraw them or what...didn't want to spend the fee?
[2016-08-06 09:05:41] elmorte : "sometime not having a position is a position itself"
[2016-08-06 09:07:51] rapidtrades : wtf elmorte
[2016-08-06 09:08:50] rapidtrades : told u the ahole is sleeeping
[2016-08-06 09:09:07] rapidtrades : this is one big joke for them...just trying to keep their jobs
[2016-08-06 09:09:11] rapidtrades : THEY ALL NEED TO GO
[2016-08-06 09:10:42] zanza : the CEO is unknown lcation, hes a ghost
[2016-08-06 09:11:49] rapidtrades : wish i had sue money
[2016-08-06 09:12:03] rapidtrades : who's planning to join a class action lawsuit
[2016-08-06 09:12:33] elmorte : I don't think I'm verified
[2016-08-06 09:12:43] rapidtrades : doesn't matter
[2016-08-06 09:12:53] rapidtrades : you have a claim
[2016-08-06 09:13:21] elmorte : This is only if they declare bankruptcy?
[2016-08-06 09:13:30] rapidtrades : no
[2016-08-06 09:14:05] elmorte : The wtf are they gonna pay from? This is their principal business
[2016-08-06 09:14:21] rapidtrades : their bank accounts? houses? idk
[2016-08-06 09:14:21] elmorte : It's not like they have another hustle they can pull money from
[2016-08-06 09:14:31] rapidtrades : gross negligence is a thing
[2016-08-06 09:14:38] elmorte : If they have money in the bank then it will be in our accounts
[2016-08-06 09:14:46] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2016-08-06 09:14:53] elmorte : true, but worth it only if they have the funds to pay
[2016-08-06 09:15:07] elmorte : if they don't, it's beating a dead horse
[2016-08-06 09:15:21] rapidtrades : only one way to find out :)
[2016-08-06 09:15:32] elmorte : I'll get my bat
[2016-08-06 09:15:45] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-08-06 09:21:30] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-08-06 10:26:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 11 @ 0.004739
[2016-08-06 10:37:15] bernx : 490 polo, still 475 here fuuuuu
[2016-08-06 10:38:30] habibi : don't worry, guess big shorter here will be liquidated if we push higher so we can actually get some premium
[2016-08-06 10:39:03] bernx : but same spread for eth
[2016-08-06 10:45:49] bernx : Why whales try hold eth price this level?
[2016-08-06 10:49:02] TheMightyX : liquidity is so low here...
[2016-08-06 10:51:22] lockhedge : bernx: if market makers can't dynamically hedge their long position (short at polo if they have a long position here), they will quote at a discount when they are long to reduce inventory risk
[2016-08-06 10:52:07] bernx : ye. but then tjere ypu can play only with 5-10% moves, which so riky because crypto
[2016-08-06 11:07:57] jesperf : doo doo doo who lost half a bitcoin because of cowardness
[2016-08-06 11:08:01] jesperf : I doood
[2016-08-06 11:08:40] jesperf : sneaky chinese dumpers
[2016-08-06 11:13:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 2000 @ 58432.0
[2016-08-06 12:00:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `LTCXBT`: Buy 9189 @ 0.00651
[2016-08-06 12:04:12] bernx : ETC polo:: 500 There : 4800
[2016-08-06 12:04:19] bernx : Nice one just as always
[2016-08-06 12:05:14] kingjay36 : no rekt shorts yet?
[2016-08-06 12:05:40] habibi : wait for it
[2016-08-06 12:05:49] bernx : same price there on etc was already 2.5hours ago
[2016-08-06 12:06:06] bernx : 505
[2016-08-06 12:06:18] kingjay36 : still up 100% with price difference
[2016-08-06 12:54:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1400 @ 0.004645
[2016-08-06 14:21:50] bernx : Bitmex you are here?
[2016-08-06 14:22:28] rapidtrades : I'm here :)
[2016-08-06 14:22:46] rapidtrades : zane still sleeping
[2016-08-06 14:22:49] rapidtrades : f*cking jew
[2016-08-06 14:23:03] bernx : did you alreade learn about ponzi at BFX?
[2016-08-06 14:23:12] rapidtrades : no do share
[2016-08-06 14:24:49] bernx : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-ceo-seemingly-tried-start-ponzi-scheme/
[2016-08-06 14:26:32] bernx : THIS make me annoing for real. WTF? mark price 1:1 at polo, and this about liq my position
[2016-08-06 14:26:43] bernx : But there is 1835 on ETH
[2016-08-06 14:27:19] bernx : So there is so big spread and liq price = market real price
[2016-08-06 14:27:21] bernx : Nice one
[2016-08-06 14:27:42] rapidtrades : yeah that sucks
[2016-08-06 14:27:47] jesperf : yes, you're really annoying
[2016-08-06 14:27:50] rapidtrades : another frenchman doing an exit scam
[2016-08-06 14:28:05] rapidtrades : first mark now this jew
[2016-08-06 14:30:21] rapidtrades : is mark still in jail or out now?
[2016-08-06 14:30:36] rapidtrades : japs were slow but they wised up to his BS
[2016-08-06 14:30:39] jesperf : he was released on bail
[2016-08-06 14:30:56] rapidtrades : was it in bitcoins?
[2016-08-06 14:31:32] rapidtrades : 1000 frapachinos?
[2016-08-06 14:31:42] jesperf : he loved them long time
[2016-08-06 14:32:01] rapidtrades : fat f*ck
[2016-08-06 14:32:05] jesperf : he's prohibited from leaving japan though
[2016-08-06 14:32:15] rapidtrades : i hope he's gonna be someone's bitch in jail
[2016-08-06 14:33:15] rapidtrades : 9 f*cking hours
[2016-08-06 14:33:47] rapidtrades : no guilty conscience for this f*Cker
[2016-08-06 14:33:53] jesperf : japanese prisons don't seem very hospitable
[2016-08-06 14:34:05] rapidtrades : i hope he died in there
[2016-08-06 14:34:12] rapidtrades : he seems like a sociopath
[2016-08-06 14:34:21] jesperf : nah, death would be sweet release
[2016-08-06 14:34:42] jesperf : they can keep him locked up
[2016-08-06 14:34:56] rapidtrades : he's one of those ppl that will never feel remorse
[2016-08-06 14:36:31] jesperf : smells like i don't exactly have gordon ramsay for a neighbor
[2016-08-06 14:36:57] rapidtrades : in one of zane's last posts he kinda hinted at ALL BTCUSD traders paying the price
[2016-08-06 14:37:02] rapidtrades : previously it was longs only
[2016-08-06 14:37:21] rapidtrades : that will prolly spread the loss but hurt me personally much harder
[2016-08-06 14:38:09] rapidtrades : sleger: got sue money?
[2016-08-06 14:38:52] jesperf : they are probably both prepping the business for a possible resurrection and stuffing their mattresses in case they are forced to jail for some time
[2016-08-06 14:38:54] bernx : Some guys make call to BFX lawyer
[2016-08-06 14:38:55] rapidtrades : he need to get a class action lawsuit going
[2016-08-06 14:39:06] bernx : Lawyers office has an automated message
[2016-08-06 14:39:12] rapidtrades : are u srs?
[2016-08-06 14:39:13] bernx : :D
[2016-08-06 14:39:31] bernx : Finex lawyer: Stuart Hoegner, General Counsel, iFinex Inc., 13/F, 1308 Bank of America Tower, 12 Harcourt Road, Central, Hong Kong, E: stu@bitfinex.com, T: +1 416 545 0001.
[2016-08-06 14:39:31] rapidtrades : lemme try what's the number
[2016-08-06 14:39:35] rapidtrades : cool
[2016-08-06 14:39:55] rapidtrades : and what's the thingy for HK?
[2016-08-06 14:40:00] rapidtrades : is it actually 1 lol
[2016-08-06 14:40:33] jesperf : +1 is USA
[2016-08-06 14:40:41] rapidtrades : but says HK...
[2016-08-06 14:40:48] rapidtrades : what are they doing
[2016-08-06 14:41:58] rapidtrades : it's prolly a skype number
[2016-08-06 14:42:31] bernx : there lawyer is from the US
[2016-08-06 14:43:14] rapidtrades : i called but forgot to put on headset
[2016-08-06 14:43:48] rapidtrades : it's showing me canada not US
[2016-08-06 14:43:55] rapidtrades : on skype
[2016-08-06 14:44:29] bernx : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4w5fdz/collection_of_relevant_bitfinex_corporate/
[2016-08-06 14:44:44] jesperf : US and Canada have the same prefix
[2016-08-06 14:44:57] rapidtrades : wtf
[2016-08-06 14:45:11] rapidtrades : WHY IS THEIR NUMBER IN CANADA
[2016-08-06 14:45:41] rapidtrades : like i said prolly a cheap skype number...what a joke of a company
[2016-08-06 14:46:09] jesperf : because mr stu is a canuck
[2016-08-06 14:46:22] jesperf : "Stuart Hoegner is an international cryptocurrency and gaming lawyer and accountant in Canada"
[2016-08-06 14:46:32] rapidtrades : accountant...
[2016-08-06 14:46:49] rapidtrades : man i hope someone sues...this guy will be fried in court
[2016-08-06 14:49:09] rapidtrades : if they split it among everyone will the cut be smaller....cos vast majority were short
[2016-08-06 14:49:16] rapidtrades : they're always short 90%
[2016-08-06 14:49:28] rapidtrades : so won't help much but will f*ck us shorts
[2016-08-06 14:49:55] rapidtrades : i mean vast majority are always long there
[2016-08-06 14:51:24] rapidtrades : [–]zanetackett[S] -7 points 10 hours ago
[2016-08-06 14:51:52] rapidtrades : how much sleep do u need f*cko
[2016-08-06 14:52:01] jesperf : yeah something is fucky
[2016-08-06 14:53:06] rapidtrades : they're doing announcement today but doubt site will be up
[2016-08-06 14:53:07] jesperf : people won't buy this "tonight EST...... late EST" any more
[2016-08-06 14:53:13] rapidtrades : maybe monday
[2016-08-06 14:56:19] rapidtrades : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4wg17j/waiting_on_zane_be_like/
[2016-08-06 14:56:58] bernx : should i close eth short 1818?
[2016-08-06 14:57:14] bernx : bitmex fuck me up
[2016-08-06 14:59:08] rapidtrades : dude stop trading short term, problem solved
[2016-08-06 14:59:10] jesperf : bernx: it's difficult to trade some contracts here with low liquidity
[2016-08-06 14:59:39] bernx : ye, just press button and buy order dissapear from 1840 to 1818
[2016-08-06 14:59:56] rapidtrades : yeah it sucks
[2016-08-06 15:00:01] rapidtrades : smtimes that happens
[2016-08-06 15:00:06] jesperf : happened to me a lot of times too
[2016-08-06 15:00:24] bernx : ye. and there is trouble bitmex mark price 1835 and polo price (mark price) 1858
[2016-08-06 15:00:26] rapidtrades : dunno if its a glitch or some 'last look' deal with MMers
[2016-08-06 15:00:40] bernx : this is why i hate bitmex
[2016-08-06 15:01:03] jesperf : i just think it's so much slower to place an order via UI rather than the API
[2016-08-06 15:01:22] bernx : my liq price at 1881
[2016-08-06 15:01:25] bernx : this is so bad
[2016-08-06 15:02:01] habibi : don't worry, i will short on ur liquidation
[2016-08-06 15:02:07] bernx : :<
[2016-08-06 15:02:12] jesperf : bernx: put in more margin
[2016-08-06 15:02:16] jesperf : it will go down again
[2016-08-06 15:02:18] rapidtrades : if my Liq price is close I usually get out to avoid paying the extra %
[2016-08-06 15:02:50] bernx : 4h looks like we go down, but 5m about bullish . dunno what to do
[2016-08-06 15:03:10] rapidtrades : idk maybe cut ur size in half
[2016-08-06 15:03:36] rapidtrades : u should plan when to get out BEFORE you get in
[2016-08-06 15:03:50] justinlooking : get out 50
[2016-08-06 15:03:53] justinlooking : *%
[2016-08-06 15:04:23] habibi : u use whole account to play single position?
[2016-08-06 15:04:25] bernx : will do soon if nothing change
[2016-08-06 15:04:39] bernx : just fucked with pos place
[2016-08-06 15:04:39] subjective : bernx: BTC?
[2016-08-06 15:04:45] bernx : ETH
[2016-08-06 15:05:31] jesperf : eth and etc is a risky business for sure
[2016-08-06 15:05:51] subjective : bernx: 15m and 2h tells diff story..
[2016-08-06 15:05:55] jesperf : i swung up and down like crazy, now i'm back at break even and learned my lesson
[2016-08-06 15:05:59] bernx : same for 5m and 4h
[2016-08-06 15:06:01] rapidtrades : i've taken 2 shorts in ETH this year...both times made only small amount of $$$
[2016-08-06 15:06:11] rapidtrades : compared to my risk
[2016-08-06 15:06:27] rapidtrades : vicious short covering on that pair
[2016-08-06 15:06:38] rapidtrades : not sure if its manipulated or what
[2016-08-06 15:07:08] bernx : My indicators show it's like bullish 5m
[2016-08-06 15:07:18] bernx : but there is no price change
[2016-08-06 15:07:46] bernx : So if it don't wanna go up, then it will go down. I hope
[2016-08-06 15:08:26] rapidtrades : if bitcoin goes down, eth may go up
[2016-08-06 15:08:30] subjective : bernx: Bitmex movement is a bit behind
[2016-08-06 15:08:49] rapidtrades : usually does altho it crashed on bitfinex too
[2016-08-06 15:10:04] subjective : if ETH doesn't break now, it might complete the descending triangle/wedge then break
[2016-08-06 15:11:17] rapidtrades : yeah they're definitely making the decision now
[2016-08-06 15:11:32] rapidtrades : prolly weighting how much shit their floated ideas got past few days
[2016-08-06 15:11:47] bernx : woohoo
[2016-08-06 15:12:06] rapidtrades : what...
[2016-08-06 15:12:35] bernx : Na, still don't wanna fall
[2016-08-06 15:13:22] bernx : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QodhXDQDsW0J:https://www.bitfinex.com/security_policy&num=1&hl=en&gl=us&strip=0&vwsrc=0
[2016-08-06 15:13:25] bernx : read this
[2016-08-06 15:13:29] bernx : looks like BFX scam
[2016-08-06 15:15:16] rapidtrades : Only holds minimal amounts (~0.5% of customer funds)
[2016-08-06 15:15:20] rapidtrades : bitgo wallet
[2016-08-06 15:15:25] rapidtrades : like wtf....
[2016-08-06 15:15:37] rapidtrades : how low does this rabbit hole go
[2016-08-06 15:16:13] bernx : 1) There is inside job
[2016-08-06 15:16:19] bernx : 2) There is ton's of lie
[2016-08-06 15:16:22] rapidtrades : Multi-sig Hot wallet
[2016-08-06 15:16:24] bernx : 3) there is lawyer
[2016-08-06 15:16:32] rapidtrades : so there was a hot wallet like we all thought
[2016-08-06 15:16:33] bernx : 4) there is silence
[2016-08-06 15:17:01] rapidtrades : when is that cache from
[2016-08-06 15:17:46] bernx : Jul 28, 2016 05:27:22 GMT.
[2016-08-06 15:18:06] rapidtrades : motherf*ckers
[2016-08-06 15:18:25] rapidtrades : so first they lie then they delete their lies
[2016-08-06 15:18:34] rapidtrades : what's that page now
[2016-08-06 15:20:12] rapidtrades : now everything redirects to their updates
[2016-08-06 15:22:19] bernx : looks like bot hold eth price
[2016-08-06 15:26:49] rapidtrades : man this waiting is killing me
[2016-08-06 15:26:53] WhiteJacket : are any of you using bots guys?
[2016-08-06 15:27:02] rapidtrades : yeah i will soon
[2016-08-06 15:27:07] rapidtrades : once i learn python
[2016-08-06 15:27:22] WhiteJacket : can i ask which kind of strategy?
[2016-08-06 15:27:38] rapidtrades : prolly market making
[2016-08-06 15:28:54] WhiteJacket : interesting
[2016-08-06 15:29:04] WhiteJacket : do you thing there are many bots like that?
[2016-08-06 15:29:43] rapidtrades : a couple
[2016-08-06 15:29:54] rapidtrades : prolly 5+ on swap
[2016-08-06 15:30:15] rapidtrades : micmix has one, sleger prolly runs one still and 2-3 other guys
[2016-08-06 15:30:31] rapidtrades : redo runs one too
[2016-08-06 15:30:34] rapidtrades : rado
[2016-08-06 15:31:04] rapidtrades : prolly 10+ cos lots of unknown ppl who don't chat here
[2016-08-06 15:31:28] WhiteJacket : i've been reading about it buts, plain thats puting limit orders in both buy /sell spread limits right
[2016-08-06 15:31:36] rapidtrades : yes
[2016-08-06 15:31:48] WhiteJacket : do u use trailing?
[2016-08-06 15:32:12] rapidtrades : i don't know, i haven't started it yet
[2016-08-06 15:32:24] rapidtrades : ask the guys i mentioned :)
[2016-08-06 15:32:27] justinlooking : rapid i made new tool i get u screneshot
[2016-08-06 15:32:45] WhiteJacket : is there any way to send PM here?
[2016-08-06 15:32:55] rapidtrades : no
[2016-08-06 15:33:03] WhiteJacket : ok then
[2016-08-06 15:33:04] rapidtrades : don't message sleger tho, he won't help
[2016-08-06 15:33:14] bernx : no idea what happen with ETH
[2016-08-06 15:33:23] Tetsuo : ETH = moon soon
[2016-08-06 15:33:40] rapidtrades : Tetsuo noone cares about u or ur small opinions
[2016-08-06 15:33:46] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: u suck
[2016-08-06 15:33:54] WhiteJacket : rapidtrades: thanks mate
[2016-08-06 15:33:54] rapidtrades : ur mom sucks harder
[2016-08-06 15:35:42] bernx : ETH moon = np. But not like this
[2016-08-06 15:35:59] bernx : Looks more dead cat bounce with some helps from whales
[2016-08-06 15:36:20] justinlooking : http://anony.ws/image/Nnp1 (it no finshd!!)
[2016-08-06 15:36:24] rapidtrades : no sells in over 1h...i would be worried mate
[2016-08-06 15:36:44] bernx : rapidtrades: at what?
[2016-08-06 15:37:12] rapidtrades : eth
[2016-08-06 15:37:34] bernx : rapidtrades: noone sell? where did you see it?
[2016-08-06 15:37:39] justinlooking : it sparkles like xmas tree in fast mkt
[2016-08-06 15:37:48] WhiteJacket : justinlooking: that tool is for see orderbooks or what?
[2016-08-06 15:38:25] WhiteJacket : volumes right?
[2016-08-06 15:38:35] justinlooking : yeh, depth at price on xch'gs
[2016-08-06 15:38:50] rapidtrades : yeah recent trades...i only see BBBBBBBBBBBBB
[2016-08-06 15:39:03] WhiteJacket : well done
[2016-08-06 15:39:38] bernx : rapidtrades: most of them just for hold price, illusion grow
[2016-08-06 15:54:48] bernx : https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/761952856580685824
[2016-08-06 15:56:24] Tetsuo : Soon
[2016-08-06 15:57:50] Tetsuo : " token labeled BFX " lol
[2016-08-06 15:58:28] rapidtrades : pls paste
[2016-08-06 15:58:30] rapidtrades : getting 503
[2016-08-06 15:58:38] justinlooking : http://pastebin.com/efbgvsLu