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[2016-08-04 09:07:10] jesperf : wurstgelee: you're clever :)
[2016-08-04 09:07:22] wurstgelee : lolz :D
[2016-08-04 09:08:23] wurstgelee : we need a new hack, i am embracing knifes to catch now
[2016-08-04 09:08:25] wurstgelee : somebody take down okc please
[2016-08-04 09:18:05] bernx : bitcoin shart now looks like altcoin chart
[2016-08-04 09:30:35] rapidtrades : coinbase premium now 'only' 13
[2016-08-04 09:30:44] jung1 : etc falling
[2016-08-04 09:33:07] rapidtrades : let me know if finex posts update...can't check reddit every 5 mins
[2016-08-04 09:38:10] jesperf : bro do you even internet?
[2016-08-04 09:41:37] rapidtrades : FU JESREP
[2016-08-04 09:42:23] elmorte : rapidtrades: sign up for statuspage updates dude
[2016-08-04 09:42:28] elmorte : did you get your phone back?
[2016-08-04 09:48:26] jesperf : rapidtrades: y u mad
[2016-08-04 09:49:24] justinlooking : it's her time of the month
[2016-08-04 09:49:46] jesperf : oh i get that too
[2016-08-04 09:49:49] jung1 : yeah his hand is disabled for a while
[2016-08-04 09:50:32] jesperf : so annoying, can't wear white pants
[2016-08-04 09:51:07] justinlooking : and bf demands anal
[2016-08-04 10:02:53] elmorte : That's crossing the line guys, I'm sure rapid enjoys a bit of anal now & then
[2016-08-04 10:05:46] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-08-04 10:17:00] rapidtrades : 'We will have an announcement about this later today'
[2016-08-04 10:17:10] rapidtrades : so prolly tomorrow...or never
[2016-08-04 10:21:42] jesperf : well they just woke up over there
[2016-08-04 10:21:48] jesperf : assuming new york time
[2016-08-04 10:22:51] rapidtrades : ahole is in Amsterdam
[2016-08-04 10:23:03] rapidtrades : they don't have a set office
[2016-08-04 10:26:41] wotan : when will be an bitfinex announcement? thought it should be yesterday
[2016-08-04 10:27:29] jesperf : no, yesterday they said tomorrow and zane just posted "later today"
[2016-08-04 10:28:38] jesperf : sounds like the shia labeouf meme
[2016-08-04 10:28:40] jesperf : JUST DO IT
[2016-08-04 10:30:01] justinlooking : boe 30 mins
[2016-08-04 10:30:45] habibi : There was an announcement like 11 hours ago https://bitfinex.statuspage.io/ Today they will tell how they will deal with people's losses
[2016-08-04 10:31:06] wotan : ah get it
[2016-08-04 10:32:20] wotan : but we still dont know how much was really lost right
[2016-08-04 10:32:40] habibi : 119k btc
[2016-08-04 10:33:28] wotan : so the hacker could dump this any time?
[2016-08-04 10:34:45] jung1 : yup
[2016-08-04 10:34:59] habibi : yea he already sent all bitcoins to coinbase, but he is verifying his account atm, after this he will sell all of them
[2016-08-04 10:35:12] justinlooking : rofl
[2016-08-04 10:36:11] jung1 : would be funny if he will buy all etc for that money
[2016-08-04 10:36:14] wotan : true thats not that easy
[2016-08-04 10:36:19] jung1 : and pump it to $100
[2016-08-04 10:36:30] justinlooking : $100 etc gtfo
[2016-08-04 10:37:51] wotan : he could get his coins into a coin mixer to anon his coins but i have read its not 100% anonym
[2016-08-04 10:38:03] wotan : lol yes that would be funny
[2016-08-04 10:38:34] wotan : if he would be a good man he would refund the money t the people and played the market meanwhile
[2016-08-04 10:38:51] wotan : then he made alot of money (if he holds capital) and no one can blame him
[2016-08-04 10:39:13] habibi : absolutely noone
[2016-08-04 10:41:12] rapidtrades : pretty sure the police will still blame him
[2016-08-04 10:41:57] wotan : or he did both ways and do double money
[2016-08-04 10:47:04] rapidtrades : he should go with the 'YouTube defense'
[2016-08-04 10:47:43] rapidtrades : IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO
[2016-08-04 10:48:02] rapidtrades : A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT
[2016-08-04 10:48:18] jung1 : so lets make hardfork on bitcoin
[2016-08-04 10:48:43] rapidtrades : Let's hardfork ur mom how about that
[2016-08-04 10:50:59] wotan : no way of hardfork btc lol look at eth
[2016-08-04 10:51:25] wotan : i think the so called hacker could be even a government official who knows
[2016-08-04 10:51:32] jung1 : /irony
[2016-08-04 10:51:59] jung1 : rapidtrades: I have hard fork in my kitchen
[2016-08-04 10:52:39] rapidtrades : sleger shouldn't have come back imo
[2016-08-04 10:52:48] wotan : long or short at this point?
[2016-08-04 10:52:48] rapidtrades : he had a legend status after he left
[2016-08-04 10:53:04] rapidtrades : how he's just meh, it's sleger again
[2016-08-04 10:53:54] rapidtrades : who's that? oh that's sleger he pops in here from time to time
[2016-08-04 10:55:12] lopol : How can i see how much leverage was in my order?
[2016-08-04 10:57:39] justinlooking : lopol: in "your position" the value on the left overlaying the green/red scale tells you approx current leverage
[2016-08-04 10:58:09] rapidtrades : he already closed it
[2016-08-04 10:59:25] lopol : I didint close it but still i cant see it
[2016-08-04 11:00:05] lopol : my position is 1300 contracts but where can i see leverage?
[2016-08-04 11:01:43] roman-roman : when will the etc drop significantly? All the developers support ETH, it seems like it's an easy yes to short the fuck out of etc
[2016-08-04 11:01:47] lopol : oh I can change my leverage after the trade?
[2016-08-04 11:02:42] justinlooking : lopol: of course
[2016-08-04 11:02:50] lockhedge : lopol: look at the "Margin" tab in open positions, does it say "Cross"?
[2016-08-04 11:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 800 @ 0.01837
[2016-08-04 11:05:21] justinlooking : boe cut + more stimulus
[2016-08-04 11:05:42] lockhedge : leverage should be `position value / margin` if you use isolated margin or `position value / wallet balance`if you use cross
[2016-08-04 11:06:34] lockhedge : margin balance not wallet balance....
[2016-08-04 11:07:37] lopol : on margin tab reads 0,8817 XBT (6.74x)
[2016-08-04 11:07:47] lopol : so is the leverage 6.74?
[2016-08-04 11:08:01] lopol : and why doest that change all the time little bit?
[2016-08-04 11:08:01] lockhedge : then it's 6.74x leverage
[2016-08-04 11:28:32] justinlooking : rETCKTCKTCKTC
[2016-08-04 11:29:48] jung1 : looks like money flows from etc to eth
[2016-08-04 11:29:56] jung1 : time to fork ETC
[2016-08-04 11:30:20] jung1 : for ETC and Ethereum Classic Legit
[2016-08-04 11:33:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004246
[2016-08-04 11:34:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.004226
[2016-08-04 11:35:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2421 @ 0.004124
[2016-08-04 11:37:49] macios15 : WIDZIAŁAM ORŁAAA CIEŃ
[2016-08-04 11:42:01] jesperf : whoa calm down your polishness
[2016-08-04 11:42:27] justinlooking : what happens tomorrow if u16 mark is higher than the liq at rebalance time?
[2016-08-04 11:43:12] justinlooking : dynamic loss equalization?
[2016-08-04 11:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.01893
[2016-08-04 11:46:29] lockhedge : justinlooking: only if mark price is below the liquidation order's price (and the insurance fund is empty)
[2016-08-04 11:47:04] justinlooking : lockhedge: was kinda joking about the dpe/dle
[2016-08-04 11:48:06] lockhedge : ah ok, overread the "loss equalization" :)
[2016-08-04 12:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 999 @ 0.004050
[2016-08-04 12:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.004086
[2016-08-04 12:08:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 75 @ 0.003998
[2016-08-04 12:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 318 @ 0.003909
[2016-08-04 12:09:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 135 @ 0.003855
[2016-08-04 12:11:05] dasdfasdf : When does the Withdrawl notification stay on top of inferface? I saw it yesterday but not today. I liked the time count down.
[2016-08-04 12:11:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 250 @ 0.01907
[2016-08-04 12:12:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.01910
[2016-08-04 12:12:44] subjective : Now Bitmex is pretty awesome with ETC traders here
[2016-08-04 12:16:25] jesperf : congrats to the brave shorters
[2016-08-04 12:16:47] justinlooking : if ethetc breaks 0.2 i'm yolo shorting
[2016-08-04 12:17:36] jesperf : tbh i don't understand how it reached 0.005 so quickly
[2016-08-04 12:17:44] jesperf : someone knows how to play the markets
[2016-08-04 12:18:58] jesperf : and eth is doing its phoenix thing in full blast now
[2016-08-04 12:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 2000 @ 58633.0
[2016-08-04 12:30:46] justinlooking : where is XBJ???
[2016-08-04 12:31:03] justinlooking : reload fixed it
[2016-08-04 12:31:24] habibi : yea have some issues pairs like to dissapear
[2016-08-04 12:31:59] rapidtrades : we're still trading much higher then china
[2016-08-04 12:32:04] rapidtrades : that's not right
[2016-08-04 12:33:42] rapidtrades : by we i mean usd sites
[2016-08-04 12:34:28] rapidtrades : bitfinex hasn't sent ONE email
[2016-08-04 12:34:58] rapidtrades : so if ur on holiday ur SOL i guess
[2016-08-04 12:35:51] rapidtrades : The minimum balance for access to the chat is increased to $ 1000
[2016-08-04 12:35:56] rapidtrades : LOL btc-e^^^
[2016-08-04 12:36:11] lockhedge : Kraken btc/eur at a $20 premium vs china
[2016-08-04 12:36:43] rapidtrades : yeah it's kinda crazy what's going on
[2016-08-04 12:37:04] rapidtrades : even btce at 577
[2016-08-04 12:37:13] rapidtrades : almost $10 above china
[2016-08-04 12:37:21] rapidtrades : really doubt we have it right this time
[2016-08-04 12:38:03] lockhedge : don't know but kraken and gdax were right about the price the last time i complaint about them
[2016-08-04 12:38:19] lockhedge : complained
[2016-08-04 12:38:22] rapidtrades : last time? u mean on 4th of july?
[2016-08-04 12:39:18] jesperf : do humans trade on chinese exchanges? i thought it was mostly bots
[2016-08-04 12:39:19] lockhedge : 2 days ago when they traded at a discount vs all the others
[2016-08-04 12:40:29] habibi : Bitmex guys?
[2016-08-04 12:40:52] habibi : U have new market to add - bitfinex coin.
[2016-08-04 12:41:00] habibi : and i am not jk :p
[2016-08-04 12:41:13] rapidtrades : u can transfer claims on finex can u?
[2016-08-04 12:41:14] Hoble : Any reason an XBTUSD contract would be liquidated before reaching liquidation price?
[2016-08-04 12:41:24] rapidtrades : mtgox had certificates
[2016-08-04 12:41:52] rapidtrades : i meant u can't
[2016-08-04 12:42:02] Hoble : I had a small short w liq price $573, though trade history reveals a recent high of $570
[2016-08-04 12:42:05] macios15 : predicted founding still at -0,5% lol
[2016-08-04 12:42:59] Hoble : anyone know the help email for bitmex?
[2016-08-04 12:43:03] lockhedge : too bad bitmex never launched these exchange default swaps
[2016-08-04 12:43:14] habibi : helpEmail@bitmex.com i guess
[2016-08-04 12:43:56] jesperf : what are you daft
[2016-08-04 12:43:56] lockhedge : support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-04 12:43:58] jesperf : support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-04 12:44:39] jesperf : i wonder if it is stupid guys who can't find the support email who make the best trades
[2016-08-04 12:45:22] jesperf : i just know the most successful hedge fund traders would never trade their own money :P
[2016-08-04 12:48:24] Hoble : habibi: thanks
[2016-08-04 12:48:40] Hoble : jesperf: ok will send to support :)
[2016-08-04 12:50:05] habibi : Hoble: that was ironic, support@bitmex.com is where u send ur problems
[2016-08-04 12:51:01] rapidtrades : all futures are pointing down
[2016-08-04 12:51:14] rapidtrades : USD spot seems delusional atm
[2016-08-04 12:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3362 @ 0.004390
[2016-08-04 12:52:52] lockhedge : rapidtrades: do you know which exchange will be added to okc's futures index instead of finex?
[2016-08-04 12:53:17] rapidtrades : no
[2016-08-04 12:53:42] rapidtrades : did they remove finex from the index?
[2016-08-04 12:54:47] macios15 : rapidtrades: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-04 12:54:50] lockhedge : yes only 5 exchanges each 20% weight, 3 cny markets
[2016-08-04 12:55:08] lockhedge : makes usd futures even more untradable
[2016-08-04 12:56:04] rapidtrades : wait what
[2016-08-04 12:56:12] rapidtrades : there's nothing on the blog
[2016-08-04 12:56:31] wurstgelee : lockhedge: sources?
[2016-08-04 12:56:49] wurstgelee : kaiko is 5 exchanges now, 20% each?
[2016-08-04 12:57:29] lockhedge : no, okc's fututes index
[2016-08-04 12:57:33] macios15 : noo, 50% ok coin and 50% stamp
[2016-08-04 12:57:35] wurstgelee : ahh lol
[2016-08-04 12:57:36] wurstgelee : kk :9
[2016-08-04 12:59:51] palgba : Bitmex
[2016-08-04 13:00:43] palgba : Since when price reached 577?
[2016-08-04 13:00:53] rapidtrades : they're not gonna come up today either
[2016-08-04 13:00:55] rapidtrades : finex is shit
[2016-08-04 13:01:07] palgba : I got liquidated at 577 minuts ago
[2016-08-04 13:01:24] rapidtrades : so basically none of the USD exchanges use a cold wallet
[2016-08-04 13:01:32] rapidtrades : aside from bitmex
[2016-08-04 13:01:43] rapidtrades : they all use bitgo joke of a security
[2016-08-04 13:02:28] lockhedge : rapidtrades: nobody uses bitgo the way bitfinex used it
[2016-08-04 13:02:56] rapidtrades : mindbogglingly stupid either way...i thought they had 90%+ in cold wallet
[2016-08-04 13:03:06] esuvari : 0.8071% for eth funding????
[2016-08-04 13:03:09] esuvari : that's insane
[2016-08-04 13:03:17] rapidtrades : even their withdrawal emails had 'hot wallet' reference
[2016-08-04 13:03:32] esuvari : I lost 0.16 btc as soon as I enter a position with 1000 contract
[2016-08-04 13:04:11] rapidtrades : Please note that for security reasons, Bitfinex maintains limited crypto-currency balances in its on-line hot wallet, and has spending limits from Bitgo wallets. Should your withdrawal exceed the available amount, Bitfinex will need to manually replenish the hot wallet and/or manually review and approve withdrawals, which may take up to 12 hours
[2016-08-04 13:04:28] rapidtrades : ^^^ TOTAL LIE ATTACHED TO ALL WITHDRAWAL EMAILS
[2016-08-04 13:06:32] palgba : so i got it ,bitstamp fomo´s and i get liquidated
[2016-08-04 13:06:37] palgba : that makes sense
[2016-08-04 13:06:41] palgba : what is this bitmex
[2016-08-04 13:06:53] palgba : am i trading bitstamp price or bitmex price?
[2016-08-04 13:07:21] jesperf : maybe you shouldn't trade if you don't know what you're doing
[2016-08-04 13:07:25] chromaticcr1 : bitstamp*0.5 + OKCOIN USD*0.5
[2016-08-04 13:07:26] jesperf : read the contract specifications
[2016-08-04 13:07:45] palgba : i had a stop in place but i get liquidated at bitstamp price
[2016-08-04 13:07:53] palgba : i trade here for months
[2016-08-04 13:07:55] chromaticcr1 : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-04 13:08:30] Tr : Where is my withdrawal guys
[2016-08-04 13:09:48] jesperf : rapidtrades: i think the chinese just aren't as easily convinced as we are. they're slowly creeping upwards
[2016-08-04 13:12:32] rapidtrades : why would u trust us tho...we can't even keep an exchange running
[2016-08-04 13:12:49] rapidtrades : mtgox, bitfinex, bitstamp hacks
[2016-08-04 13:13:25] BitMEX_Wally : Tr: Withdrawals are being processed and will be broadcast soon
[2016-08-04 13:14:06] rapidtrades : all the major chinese sites are still running
[2016-08-04 13:14:48] palgba : bitstamp fomos do 580 and i get liquidated while bitmex price is 570
[2016-08-04 13:15:01] palgba : thats good
[2016-08-04 13:15:20] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: do u broadcast all transactions simultaneously? or in chunks?
[2016-08-04 13:15:35] wurstgelee : trasnaction 1 got sent. transaction 2 not (yet)
[2016-08-04 13:15:40] wurstgelee : thats y i am asking
[2016-08-04 13:16:00] lockhedge : rapidtrades: does okc provide proof of reserves? doesn't mean they never got hacked if they don't publicly say that they were hacked (see mt gox)
[2016-08-04 13:17:41] palgba : BitMEX_Wally: why did i get liquidated at 577 when bitmex price was 570 ?
[2016-08-04 13:20:04] lockhedge : "Have you ever had an audit for proof-of-reserves? - "No. However we are currently in the process of finding someone to audit our reserves." (okc faq)
[2016-08-04 13:20:38] BitMEX_Wally : palgba: Liquidations are triggered based on the mark price which is the Kaiko index
[2016-08-04 13:21:16] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: speaking of which, which exchanges are part of the index atm?
[2016-08-04 13:21:26] BitMEX_Wally : At the moment, 50% OKC and 50% Bitstamp
[2016-08-04 13:21:51] wurstgelee : yep, could have checked myself i guess
[2016-08-04 13:21:53] wurstgelee : thanks :)
[2016-08-04 13:21:55] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: They are broadcast one by one, manually
[2016-08-04 13:22:07] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: 2nd trasnactions got broadcasted ;)
[2016-08-04 13:22:10] wurstgelee : thanks
[2016-08-04 13:22:15] wurstgelee : *transaction
[2016-08-04 13:24:11] gaoMex : Any chance more exchange will be included in the Kaiko index?
[2016-08-04 13:24:13] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: when do you think you'll decide about including an other exchange to the index?
[2016-08-04 13:24:40] BitMEX_Wally : We're looking into it
[2016-08-04 13:25:44] gaoMex : Who decide to make changes to Kaiko index: Kaiko, BitMEX or both?
[2016-08-04 13:26:34] palgba : BitMEX_Wally: thats terrible because bitstamp price is to volatile.
[2016-08-04 13:26:39] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: can you pls announce a change to index at least 48h before it becomes effective via mail?
[2016-08-04 13:26:45] BitMEX_Wally : Both
[2016-08-04 13:27:32] gaoMex : actually the previous index tradeblock is quite OK
[2016-08-04 13:27:45] gaoMex : wondering why it was replaced by Kaiko...
[2016-08-04 13:28:30] chromaticcr1 : gaoMex: coz it constantly changes and difficult to hedge for market makers
[2016-08-04 13:29:11] lockhedge : gaoMex: problem of XBX is that it's not transparent how it weights, problem of Kaiko is that it does not have any mechanism for de-weighting
[2016-08-04 13:30:50] gaoMex : lockhedge: solution: come out with a de-weighting mechanism and apply it to Kaiko
[2016-08-04 13:31:12] gaoMex : make the de-weighting mechanism public
[2016-08-04 13:31:50] gaoMex : and ensure there are at least 3 exchanges, conditions to be included to be decided
[2016-08-04 13:31:52] lockhedge : i already have one, implemented after the last finex outage for bix for testing
[2016-08-04 13:32:38] lockhedge : simplest way would be 5 exchange, remove the highest and lowest price and build the index based on the remaining 3
[2016-08-04 13:33:02] gaoMex : sounds logical
[2016-08-04 13:35:32] palgba : Yes. So that we dont get liquidates with a 8 dollar spread from bitmex trading price
[2016-08-04 13:36:15] lockhedge : my testing algo only de-weights the exchange with the highest price variance only after certain limits, works with 3-4 index components
[2016-08-04 13:36:42] palgba : Really disappointed with this one i had a stop loss 3 dollars above my short instead i get liquidated with 10
[2016-08-04 13:36:47] palgba : Good
[2016-08-04 13:38:06] palgba : I guess im not trading anymore until index is better weighted
[2016-08-04 13:51:18] rapidtrades : We are planning on today, but we're working as hard as we can and this takes time, we'll see if we can get it done'
[2016-08-04 13:51:37] rapidtrades : translation: it aint happening today
[2016-08-04 13:52:14] lockhedge : rapidtrades: what are they planning, their first public statement that was approved by a lawyer?
[2016-08-04 13:54:04] rapidtrades : f*ck em
[2016-08-04 13:59:51] lockhedge : added the dynamic de-weighting mechanism to the public bix source https://github.com/robotfinance/BIX/blob/master/bixpy/bix.py
[2016-08-04 14:00:16] bernx : wtf bitcoin do? will it grow?
[2016-08-04 14:05:29] I-am-Legend : hey guys
[2016-08-04 14:05:43] I-am-Legend : anyone know how to get clef working
[2016-08-04 14:06:07] I-am-Legend : im on page but i select clef nothing happens in account page
[2016-08-04 14:06:20] I-am-Legend : just signed up
[2016-08-04 14:08:54] I-am-Legend : never mind sorted
[2016-08-04 14:12:12] Rado : rapidtrades: what stops Bitfinex from steal more coins than actually were stolen from the attack
[2016-08-04 14:12:28] Rado : there is no 3rd party auditing as far as I know
[2016-08-04 14:22:16] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: Please implement min order size
[2016-08-04 14:22:48] Rado : I will create a bot to place bids and asks for 1 contract on all instruments otherwise
[2016-08-04 14:23:00] Rado : I hate these small orders mudding the waters
[2016-08-04 14:23:03] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: This is already implemented
[2016-08-04 14:23:19] BitMEX_Sam : Accounts placing large numbers of small orders will automatically have their orders hidden if below a threshold
[2016-08-04 14:23:30] Rado : XBTU16 has 4 orders of 2 contracts each
[2016-08-04 14:23:35] Rado : why is this allowed?
[2016-08-04 14:23:52] BitMEX_Sam : That account just hasn't triggered the spam threshold
[2016-08-04 14:24:01] BitMEX_Sam : If you have an issue with viewing it that way, group the orderbook
[2016-08-04 14:24:33] Rado : what is the threshold?
[2016-08-04 14:26:10] Rado : spam threshold is different than minimum order size
[2016-08-04 14:26:29] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, but it solves the same issue
[2016-08-04 14:26:39] Rado : kind of
[2016-08-04 14:27:13] Rado : there is no benefit to BitMex having these 1 and 2 contract orders
[2016-08-04 14:28:13] Rado : actually it prevents users from placing a post only order and being at the top of the order book
[2016-08-04 14:29:31] Rado : XBTUSD doesn't seem to have this issue
[2016-08-04 14:45:40] Muhammed : why is bitcoin so high on poloniex??
[2016-08-04 14:59:57] Rado : can you actually trade BTC there?
[2016-08-04 15:00:30] thinkngrow : Does Bitmex offer a possobility to lend btc to margin trading?
[2016-08-04 15:01:03] Rado : thinkngrow: no, but you can make the funding rate which is the same
[2016-08-04 15:01:24] Rado : if you are long now you make 0.21% in 8 hours
[2016-08-04 15:01:44] thinkngrow : where can i find funding rate?
[2016-08-04 15:02:00] Rado : on the left under Contract details
[2016-08-04 15:04:01] thinkngrow : Rado: what's the risk/
[2016-08-04 15:04:26] Rado : the risk is that BTC can go down and you will lose a lot more than making the 0.21%
[2016-08-04 15:04:56] thinkngrow : so this is not the same as lending money
[2016-08-04 15:05:07] thinkngrow : its like margin trading
[2016-08-04 15:05:15] Rado : If you don't care about BTC going up and only want to make money from interest you can do it this way
[2016-08-04 15:05:36] Rado : short $10k of BTC on an exchange
[2016-08-04 15:05:48] Rado : buy 10k contracts of XBTUSD here
[2016-08-04 15:06:03] Rado : then when you want to unwind the trade cover at the exchange and sell here
[2016-08-04 15:06:21] Rado : that will protect you and make the interest
[2016-08-04 15:06:45] Rado : the problem is if the funding rate goes from negative to positive you need to switch the positions
[2016-08-04 15:06:49] thinkngrow : Rado: thx
[2016-08-04 15:06:55] Rado : no problem
[2016-08-04 15:07:49] Rado : thinkngrow: one big benefit is that the rate here per 24h is way higher than exchanges that offer lending
[2016-08-04 15:10:01] rapidtrades : man that sucks...we don't even know if we were haxxed
[2016-08-04 15:10:28] rapidtrades : and now zane the shame says today EST
[2016-08-04 15:10:35] rapidtrades : LOL it's one big joke
[2016-08-04 15:11:26] rapidtrades : GUYS TODAY...(next day) RLY TODAY....TODAY UCT....NO TODAY EST
[2016-08-04 15:11:50] rapidtrades : yeah it ain't happening today like i said earlier
[2016-08-04 15:11:59] rapidtrades : i speak finex now
[2016-08-04 15:16:10] Rado : lol
[2016-08-04 15:36:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 15 @ 58320.0
[2016-08-04 15:37:59] jesperf : the guy can't help himself: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4vtv1m/bitfinex_down_due_to_bitcoin_security_breach/d640a8o?context=3
[2016-08-04 15:40:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 9 @ 0.003877
[2016-08-04 15:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 9354 @ 0.003745
[2016-08-04 15:42:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 3497 @ 0.003815
[2016-08-04 15:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.003743
[2016-08-04 15:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1116 @ 0.003685
[2016-08-04 15:52:32] justinlooking : new HEIST vuln sounds scary as shit
[2016-08-04 16:09:01] negamax : hi guys, n00b questions regarding XBTU16
[2016-08-04 16:09:27] negamax : isn't it to settle on 20 September, then why do I have 1 day for balancing?
[2016-08-04 16:09:52] negamax : i.e. tomorrow my account will be affected by profit/loss even though contract is to expire much later
[2016-08-04 16:11:10] negamax : Settle - 30 Sep, not 20
[2016-08-04 16:11:38] BitMEX_Sam : negamax: Your position will remain open - we simply move unrealised PNL to realised, which means that the PNL you have accrued so far is not subject to profit adjustment
[2016-08-04 16:11:48] BitMEX_Sam : It is simply accounting, it does not affect your actual profitability
[2016-08-04 16:12:22] negamax : got it. thank @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-08-04 16:12:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 700 @ 0.003941
[2016-08-04 16:12:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 600 @ 0.004006
[2016-08-04 16:22:29] palgba : BitMEX_Sam: the blue line in the chart says xbt bitmex abd it is higher than the trading xbtusd permanent. Is this linr the kaik price?
[2016-08-04 16:22:59] BitMEX_Sam : This is the Mark Price, which is Kaiko, yes
[2016-08-04 16:24:24] rapidtrades : 'This evening EST would be my best guess'
[2016-08-04 16:30:46] rapidtrades : it's kinda funny i thought okc would be the next domino to fall so i moved to finex
[2016-08-04 16:32:11] santacruz : BitMEX_Sam: What is index price components now?
[2016-08-04 16:32:19] BitMEX_Sam : santacruz: BSTP & OKC
[2016-08-04 16:32:23] BitMEX_Sam : http://kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-04 16:33:18] santacruz : do you plan to add 3rd one?
[2016-08-04 16:33:49] BitMEX_Sam : Eventually, yes, but we are evaluating
[2016-08-04 16:34:43] santacruz : where is the link to to last DPE adjustments?
[2016-08-04 16:35:19] santacruz : found
[2016-08-04 17:09:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 20841 @ 0.004351 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 17:17:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 994 @ 0.01905
[2016-08-04 17:34:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 296 @ 0.004670
[2016-08-04 17:50:14] palgba : BitMEX_Sam: i got liquidated at 577 check the kaiko it never reached that price. What happened?
[2016-08-04 17:50:22] negamax : Is REKT customer bot or by BitMex?
[2016-08-04 17:50:38] negamax : is it working with one account or announcing square offs on all?
[2016-08-04 17:50:39] justinlooking : micmix's (cust)
[2016-08-04 17:50:49] negamax : thanks
[2016-08-04 17:51:06] palgba : After 12am i mean
[2016-08-04 17:51:07] justinlooking : it announces liquidations it sees via the api
[2016-08-04 17:51:18] negamax : it be great to be able to see performance of bots, any way to do that?
[2016-08-04 17:51:29] negamax : anyone has that information shared for public good?
[2016-08-04 17:52:41] palgba : BitMEX_Sam: can you give me an explanation to this? Thanks
[2016-08-04 17:53:18] negamax : palgba: I think the platform takes action based on Mark Price (I could be wrong)
[2016-08-04 17:53:44] CaptainDean : negamax: it is
[2016-08-04 17:54:01] palgba : Neither reached that price of 577 when i got liquidated
[2016-08-04 17:54:13] palgba : Its in the chart
[2016-08-04 17:54:25] justinlooking : what time?
[2016-08-04 17:54:26] CaptainDean : palgba: I think someone else had the same issue and opened a ticket to support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-04 17:55:13] palgba : CaptainDean: thanks for that info
[2016-08-04 17:55:24] CaptainDean : palgba: you're welcome !
[2016-08-04 18:01:29] palgba : BitMEX_Sam: should i open a ticket?
[2016-08-04 18:11:15] macios15 : palgba: at what time u get liq and it was long or short
[2016-08-04 18:14:12] rapidtrades : it's possible that they're gonna pool the losses
[2016-08-04 18:14:21] rapidtrades : gonna be pissed
[2016-08-04 18:16:21] BitMEX_Greg : palgba: Hi, feel free to submit a support ticket and I will look into it. Note that liquidations are marked to the Mark Price and not the last traded price
[2016-08-04 18:17:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 561.96 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-04 18:17:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 562.39
[2016-08-04 18:17:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 561.25
[2016-08-04 18:17:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 67022 @ 558.68 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-04 18:17:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1200 @ 557.08
[2016-08-04 18:17:58] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2016-08-04 18:17:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50000 @ 556.85 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-04 18:17:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 16000 @ 558.26
[2016-08-04 18:18:17] macios15 : wtf
[2016-08-04 18:19:15] CaptainDean : bitstamp crash
[2016-08-04 18:19:22] CaptainDean : and it's back uo
[2016-08-04 18:19:25] CaptainDean : up*
[2016-08-04 18:19:35] macios15 : roll this shit back lol
[2016-08-04 18:19:46] macios15 : kaiko shit
[2016-08-04 18:19:59] CaptainDean : Bot got own i guess ...
[2016-08-04 18:20:22] palgba : BitMEX_Greg: thanka for feedback. I checked the mark price and price didnt reach the price of my liquidation
[2016-08-04 18:20:39] palgba : I will submit a ticket then
[2016-08-04 18:21:03] macios15 : fucking kaiko
[2016-08-04 18:21:36] CaptainDean : I don't understand why we don't follow 2 China biggest market
[2016-08-04 18:21:44] CaptainDean : Okcoin and whatever else
[2016-08-04 18:21:51] rapidtrades : BECAUSE IT SAYS USD
[2016-08-04 18:21:52] rapidtrades : READ
[2016-08-04 18:21:59] rapidtrades : NOONE WANTS TO TRADE THE SHIT YUAN
[2016-08-04 18:22:30] CaptainDean : so why do we use okcoin ?
[2016-08-04 18:22:30] macios15 : fuck this i cleared my acc
[2016-08-04 18:22:49] rapidtrades : CaptainDean: IT'S THEIR USD SITE
[2016-08-04 18:23:10] CaptainDean : haaaa didn't know thanks, no need to get mad
[2016-08-04 18:23:15] rapidtrades : also china has been trading this low all day...all we're doing is catching up
[2016-08-04 18:24:30] CaptainDean : yeah, i understand now whywe use Bitstamp, but have so low volume
[2016-08-04 18:24:39] CaptainDean : they have*
[2016-08-04 18:25:15] rapidtrades : what would u suggest...we just lost the highest volume site
[2016-08-04 18:26:02] justinlooking : just for you rapid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLob2E_Q5s
[2016-08-04 18:26:32] CaptainDean : we don't have any other solution from what i see
[2016-08-04 18:27:20] justinlooking : my 10c, stamp, gdax, itbit and okc 25% each
[2016-08-04 18:27:34] rapidtrades : itbit no tnx
[2016-08-04 18:27:37] CaptainDean : at least okc provide stability
[2016-08-04 18:27:52] rapidtrades : gdax are eth traitors
[2016-08-04 18:28:02] macios15 : could any one tell my why i got liq
[2016-08-04 18:28:23] macios15 : great idea 50% stamp
[2016-08-04 18:28:42] CaptainDean : yeah men i feel the pain... this is bad
[2016-08-04 18:28:47] rapidtrades : coinbase seems the winner now leads USD volume
[2016-08-04 18:29:01] rapidtrades : not sure what % of that is the exchange tho
[2016-08-04 18:29:25] macios15 : soo now sb could sell 600 btc on stamp
[2016-08-04 18:29:28] CaptainDean : yeah i would like to know too
[2016-08-04 18:29:36] rapidtrades : ameros prolly have no choice now
[2016-08-04 18:29:40] rapidtrades : can they trade on stamp?
[2016-08-04 18:29:46] macios15 : and fuck us up yes?
[2016-08-04 18:30:49] CaptainDean : Bitstamp went from 568 to 552 and now @563
[2016-08-04 18:31:30] rapidtrades : yeah stamp seems a bit spiky but coinbase is no better
[2016-08-04 18:31:36] CaptainDean : maybe 25% - 75% would be better
[2016-08-04 18:31:40] rapidtrades : it was at $25 premium just hrs ago
[2016-08-04 18:31:50] CaptainDean : 25$ is insane ...
[2016-08-04 18:32:30] rapidtrades : there seems to have a persistent premium past few weeks
[2016-08-04 18:32:54] CaptainDean : so it's not an option
[2016-08-04 18:33:39] CaptainDean : 20% bitstamp and 80% OkCoin ? Not sure it's a good thing either ...
[2016-08-04 18:34:41] macios15 : give my position back;/
[2016-08-04 18:34:42] macios15 : fuck
[2016-08-04 18:36:02] rapidtrades : CaptainDean: okc has lower volume then stamp...at least recently
[2016-08-04 18:36:23] rapidtrades : https://www.okcoin.com/marketList.do
[2016-08-04 18:36:27] CaptainDean : yeah my bad
[2016-08-04 18:36:40] rapidtrades : f*Ck....well u know what to change
[2016-08-04 18:36:52] jesperf : lol
[2016-08-04 18:37:04] CaptainDean : i was still thinking Yuan :P
[2016-08-04 18:37:12] CaptainDean : slap me for free :P
[2016-08-04 18:39:42] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: don't get mad at me, it's still learning the basics of trading
[2016-08-04 18:39:47] CaptainDean : i'm still**
[2016-08-04 18:59:59] macios15 : bitmex give my money back
[2016-08-04 19:00:55] wotan : what happened macios15?
[2016-08-04 19:03:39] macios15 : wotan: 400 btc sell on bitstamp and i got liq lol
[2016-08-04 19:04:10] macios15 : great idea 50% index based on dead bitstamp
[2016-08-04 19:06:21] jesperf : macios15: they have a testnet if you're not familiar with how the contracts work
[2016-08-04 19:06:40] justinlooking : fuckin lol
[2016-08-04 19:06:41] macios15 : ...
[2016-08-04 19:07:39] macios15 : jesperf: soo kaiko is fucked up and u telling me testnet will save me from that
[2016-08-04 19:08:08] macios15 : palgba: you got liq to if i remember today cause kaiko
[2016-08-04 19:08:10] rapidtrades : there's nothing else to use ppl...we're running out of USD exchanges
[2016-08-04 19:08:45] jesperf : i'm saying that if you knew that bitstamp was 50% weighted, you should have been more careful
[2016-08-04 19:09:01] wotan : i think bitstamp has the biggest vol right now (seen on bitcoinwisdom, but i cannot see coinbase)
[2016-08-04 19:10:05] rapidtrades : its coinbase by lil
[2016-08-04 19:10:36] rapidtrades : but that exchange is only available in few countries outside US
[2016-08-04 19:10:44] wotan : ok get it
[2016-08-04 19:11:05] rapidtrades : and bitmex doesnt serve us residents
[2016-08-04 19:11:47] Rado : how do they restrict that rapidtrades?
[2016-08-04 19:12:03] jesperf : geo ip
[2016-08-04 19:12:14] rapidtrades : guessing IP
[2016-08-04 19:12:56] Rado : So if they are on vacation they can trade?
[2016-08-04 19:12:57] Rado : lol
[2016-08-04 19:14:11] Rado : US suck with their regulations
[2016-08-04 19:14:40] rapidtrades : few times ameros signed up and come in chat to ask why they cant trade
[2016-08-04 19:16:40] CaptainDean : just use a VPN
[2016-08-04 19:17:18] CaptainDean : I really doubt they have a solid anti-VPN mechanism
[2016-08-04 19:17:25] jesperf : still doesn't make it legal for the customer
[2016-08-04 19:17:59] CaptainDean : it wouldn't stop me :P
[2016-08-04 19:18:58] jesperf : I propose a rotating 8h global trading halt every day
[2016-08-04 19:19:06] jesperf : so we can get some fucking sleep
[2016-08-04 19:19:32] rapidtrades : sleep is for the weak
[2016-08-04 19:20:14] jesperf : true, but we are only humans and humans are weak by design
[2016-08-04 19:21:02] jesperf : i need some of that shit from that old movie limitless
[2016-08-04 19:21:34] wotan : there is one person otu there that never sleeps
[2016-08-04 19:21:40] wotan : i think he is from vietnam
[2016-08-04 19:21:47] wotan : he dont sleep since over 20 years
[2016-08-04 19:21:55] Rado : jesperf: that's why we build bots
[2016-08-04 19:22:09] justinlooking : and set alerts
[2016-08-04 19:22:20] Rado : you can also use stop orders'I never leave a trade without a stp
[2016-08-04 19:22:23] Rado : stop
[2016-08-04 19:22:31] Rado : even if I am here
[2016-08-04 19:22:38] Rado : market moves too fast
[2016-08-04 19:22:43] justinlooking : stops are for buses
[2016-08-04 19:23:02] wotan : Ngoc Thai vietnam over 34 years without sleep, this could be our super human trader:)
[2016-08-04 19:23:10] macios15 : again stamp
[2016-08-04 19:23:12] macios15 : nice
[2016-08-04 19:23:20] macios15 : 100btc
[2016-08-04 19:23:23] macios15 : lol
[2016-08-04 19:24:00] jesperf : when ya gotta take a dump ya gotta take a dump
[2016-08-04 19:24:12] jesperf : ain't no hodling back
[2016-08-04 19:24:30] Rado : nice wicks on stamps
[2016-08-04 19:24:52] jesperf : it's a bit retarded actually
[2016-08-04 19:26:53] jesperf : coinbase joins the poop party
[2016-08-04 19:30:27] negamax : hey everyone, a new user here. If I close a trade at market; would it be closed at Mark Price?
[2016-08-04 19:30:35] negamax : or it depends on the liquidity?
[2016-08-04 19:31:24] rapidtrades : still a bit surreal that finex is gone
[2016-08-04 19:31:31] justinlooking : for real
[2016-08-04 19:31:48] justinlooking : negamax: close at market will sell bids / buy offers
[2016-08-04 19:32:09] rapidtrades : i find it hard to believe their outtage last month isn't somehow related
[2016-08-04 19:32:10] negamax : justinlooking: got it thanks
[2016-08-04 19:32:28] justinlooking : it was dc migration?
[2016-08-04 19:33:47] rapidtrades : is it possible that the tech guys stole their keys
[2016-08-04 19:34:59] negamax : rapidtrades: working in dc doesn't mean they have access to data (did that for a fortune X)
[2016-08-04 19:35:39] negamax : they pretty much can only move nuts and bolts and everything gets logged
[2016-08-04 19:36:22] rapidtrades : and finex says its not inside job...so smth like that could prolly get caught easily
[2016-08-04 19:36:41] jesperf : 8 hours left of EST time, let's see how that goes ;)
[2016-08-04 19:37:08] rapidtrades : i'll tell u how it goes right now
[2016-08-04 19:37:29] rapidtrades : they ain't coming up :)
[2016-08-04 19:37:33] justinlooking : whose dc are they in?
[2016-08-04 19:37:36] justinlooking : nvm i will check
[2016-08-04 19:38:16] rapidtrades : wait a min....prices on sept barely moved yet DPE spiked from 0.7% to 3%
[2016-08-04 19:38:21] rapidtrades : wtf bitmex
[2016-08-04 19:39:05] negamax : rapidtrades: I am regretting opening trade on XBTU16; huge spread and no movement
[2016-08-04 19:39:27] justinlooking : rapid it's dumped $10??
[2016-08-04 19:39:42] rapidtrades : no man 3 hrs no recent trades
[2016-08-04 19:39:48] negamax : look at the recent trades
[2016-08-04 19:40:00] justinlooking : u really need the mark price explained again?
[2016-08-04 19:40:20] negamax : me?
[2016-08-04 19:40:48] rapidtrades : it's a bit weird to move the mark when we haven't had trades
[2016-08-04 19:41:48] rapidtrades : they used weighted average of bid/asks so easy to manipulate by shifting the bid/asks
[2016-08-04 19:42:09] justinlooking : they use xbt idx + manual basis
[2016-08-04 19:43:02] rapidtrades : not afaik
[2016-08-04 19:43:24] rapidtrades : they use weighted bid/asks with some manual override when spread gets wide
[2016-08-04 19:44:14] justinlooking : look at spec: Fair Basis Calculation Fair Basis is manually adjusted at invervals to match the market.
[2016-08-04 19:44:28] justinlooking : Fair Basis 43.46
[2016-08-04 19:44:46] rapidtrades : fair basis just shows the current premium to spot