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[2016-08-03 20:19:53] BitMEX_Greg : Were you short? there was just a round of funding
[2016-08-03 20:20:07] Eastbay : yeah, please explain
[2016-08-03 20:20:12] BitMEX_Greg : Check your trade history: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 20:20:27] Eastbay : dafaq?
[2016-08-03 20:20:59] Eastbay : what does that mean? i lose .1btc?
[2016-08-03 20:21:09] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-08-03 20:21:19] BitMEX_Greg : It depends what position you are
[2016-08-03 20:21:33] BitMEX_Greg : In the recent round of funding longs got paid about 0.67% and shorts paid 0.67%
[2016-08-03 20:21:58] BitMEX_Greg : 0.647% *
[2016-08-03 20:22:14] Eastbay : so if i waited till now to open a short i would not have to pay?
[2016-08-03 20:22:18] Skitrx : jesus that's high
[2016-08-03 20:22:37] BitMEX_Greg : Yes there has been a lot of selling pressure given what has happened over the past day
[2016-08-03 20:22:46] jesperf : Eastbay: it happens every 8 hours
[2016-08-03 20:23:18] Eastbay : damn! so they just tax someone 10% 3 times a day
[2016-08-03 20:23:20] jesperf : check your right hand corner for important countdowns
[2016-08-03 20:23:21] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Correct, on the left side of the screen under Contract Details, it displays the funding rate and the time left to be charged
[2016-08-03 20:23:37] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: It wasn't 10%, and it is not a tax
[2016-08-03 20:23:57] BitMEX_Greg : The rate was 0.647% on your total positions
[2016-08-03 20:24:30] Eastbay : ok ok, got it, i gotta read up on this
[2016-08-03 20:24:36] jesperf : Eastbay: it's to keep the prices from deviating into premiums and discounts too much
[2016-08-03 20:24:38] lockhedge : Eastbay: congrats for trolling about going long and not knowing the FR
[2016-08-03 20:24:45] jesperf : :D
[2016-08-03 20:25:01] Eastbay : aint my first trollbox lol
[2016-08-03 20:25:52] jesperf : uh oh, we have ourselves an experienced troll here
[2016-08-03 20:26:02] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Yes we encourage all new users to the platform to read and understand the guides. Anything that is confusing please give us a shout here. If you want to put some test positions on too then try out the testnet
[2016-08-03 20:31:23] tiny_knob : hi everyone
[2016-08-03 20:31:40] tiny_knob : bitmex admin how do we get a special coin added here?
[2016-08-03 20:33:09] elmorte : What's the name of the coin?
[2016-08-03 20:37:21] Chimpindeed : Knobcoin?
[2016-08-03 20:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.004816
[2016-08-03 20:38:29] Skitrx : possible head and shoulders on huobi
[2016-08-03 20:39:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 560 @ 0.004745
[2016-08-03 20:39:25] jesperf : knees and toe knees and toe!
[2016-08-03 20:39:45] elmorte : jesperf: haha...you have a kid too?
[2016-08-03 20:39:47] BitMEX_Greg : tiny_knob: Depends on the underlying liquidity. If it has a liquid market, listed on a reputable exchange and a decent following then we may list it
[2016-08-03 20:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 460 @ 0.004678
[2016-08-03 20:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 800 @ 0.004719
[2016-08-03 20:40:28] jesperf : elmorte: no :) just being childish
[2016-08-03 20:40:36] elmorte : :)
[2016-08-03 20:42:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 970 @ 0.01782
[2016-08-03 20:43:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.01783
[2016-08-03 20:44:15] elmorte : Great, now if only finex would come back online with my ETH....
[2016-08-03 20:44:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 25 @ 0.01794
[2016-08-03 20:44:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.004562
[2016-08-03 20:45:41] Rizky : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vzapf/a_theory_on_how_the_bitfinex_hack_may_have/
[2016-08-03 20:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 180 @ 0.004503
[2016-08-03 20:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.004503
[2016-08-03 20:47:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 700 @ 0.004478
[2016-08-03 20:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004457
[2016-08-03 20:47:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.004451
[2016-08-03 20:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.004409
[2016-08-03 20:47:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 850 @ 0.004350
[2016-08-03 20:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 989 @ 0.004285
[2016-08-03 20:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.004549
[2016-08-03 20:59:05] Rado : so no news from Bitfinex yet?
[2016-08-03 20:59:37] Mangalica : none
[2016-08-03 20:59:53] Mangalica : zane said ~things are taking longer than expected
[2016-08-03 21:00:20] lockhedge : 4min ago: "I'm hoping we have something before night time in the states but im really not sure. I'm waiting to hear updates from the team on how it's coming along."
[2016-08-03 21:00:26] lockhedge : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-03 21:07:10] Rado : @lockhedge Thanks
[2016-08-03 21:10:26] lockhedge : Arthur quoted on website of dutch TV station http://www.rtlz.nl/tech/weer-een-hack-weer-een-crash-bitcoin-keldert-met-12-procent
[2016-08-03 21:10:42] ibtcx100 : wonder whats up with 0 volume on okcoin? updating infrastructure before turning on their volumizer bots
[2016-08-03 21:13:14] lockhedge : and on Le Monde in France, nice http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2016/08/03/la-valeur-du-bitcoin-plonge-a-la-suite-du-vol-de-53-millions-d-euros-sur-une-plate-forme-d-echange_4977942_4408996.html
[2016-08-03 21:13:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.01799
[2016-08-03 21:13:56] Eastbay : timber!
[2016-08-03 21:14:42] Eastbay : dang
[2016-08-03 21:14:52] Eastbay : finally breaking..
[2016-08-03 21:15:13] gg : china dumb
[2016-08-03 21:15:17] gg : *p
[2016-08-03 21:15:57] gg : anyone hear if they are tracking bfx hackers?
[2016-08-03 21:16:33] Rado : how do you track them?
[2016-08-03 21:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004469
[2016-08-03 21:16:58] Rado : you can see the transactions on the blockchain, but that's all
[2016-08-03 21:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.01817
[2016-08-03 21:18:14] gg : just wondering if they were able to follow the coins to see if they were in a certain wallet. Didnt that happen following stamp a year or so ago?
[2016-08-03 21:18:52] lockhedge : gg: they are split over a lot of addresses
[2016-08-03 21:23:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 30 @ 0.01827
[2016-08-03 21:23:44] justinlooking : rETC.
[2016-08-03 21:25:41] jesperf : eth is making a nice rethurn
[2016-08-03 22:21:15] jesperf : y'all sleepy
[2016-08-03 23:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 12 @ 0.01797
[2016-08-03 23:27:48] ayy_lmao : bitmex in denial again
[2016-08-03 23:45:07] Rado : ayy_lmao: what's up?
[2016-08-04 00:16:25] kingscrown : dang
[2016-08-04 00:36:47] rapidtrades : so finex now says they will settle all positions with prices back on aug2
[2016-08-04 00:36:53] rapidtrades : is that right
[2016-08-04 00:37:16] rapidtrades : $604 for bitcoin
[2016-08-04 00:38:57] rapidtrades : and they still haven't emailed anything
[2016-08-04 00:46:05] rapidtrades : and ofc they haven't relaunched today...they're finex why should anything go as planned
[2016-08-04 01:06:42] Rado : Settle as back to cash?
[2016-08-04 01:17:43] rapidtrades : same as if u closed them yourself at 604 i guess
[2016-08-04 01:19:36] babybaby : heh
[2016-08-04 01:20:32] rapidtrades : USD trading much higher then china
[2016-08-04 01:20:51] gonfalons : opened a long ~28x at $503 yesterday with 0.1477 bitcoin. closed it at ~540. why do I have only .1477 again?
[2016-08-04 01:21:00] babybaby : so whos biying ETC and EXCL on bittrex now with me? easy profits
[2016-08-04 01:21:49] rapidtrades : gonfalons: whatever...noone knows ur size
[2016-08-04 01:22:59] rapidtrades : gonna guess some profits got eaten by the funding fees
[2016-08-04 01:23:13] rapidtrades : they were over 1% past 2 days
[2016-08-04 01:23:48] gonfalons : i would think I make quite a lot at a high leverage when price goes up $30 very quickly no?
[2016-08-04 01:23:50] gonfalons : not break even
[2016-08-04 01:24:39] rapidtrades : what was ur size
[2016-08-04 01:26:16] gonfalons : looks like 900
[2016-08-04 01:26:35] rapidtrades : calc says 0.1226 XBT
[2016-08-04 01:27:03] gonfalons : sounds about right pretty sure i had 0.147 maybe some did not go thorugh
[2016-08-04 01:27:28] gonfalons : and leverage was maxed i think 28x
[2016-08-04 01:28:28] rapidtrades : idk says lev max is 50/1 but i don't trade that high
[2016-08-04 01:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 22 @ 564.95
[2016-08-04 01:45:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 565.24
[2016-08-04 01:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 24900 @ 567.44 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : All aboard the MOON train!
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 567.92
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 111500 @ 568.12 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-04 01:55:26] mbaril : 111500 ouch
[2016-08-04 02:07:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.004656
[2016-08-04 02:08:24] NukeLaloosh : XBTUSD mark price uses the Kaiko index, which right now is 50/50 okc and bitstamp, correct?
[2016-08-04 02:09:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 74 @ 569.67
[2016-08-04 02:09:18] rapidtrades : NukeLaloosh: think so
[2016-08-04 02:14:02] NukeLaloosh : thanks rapid. so why all the info on the contract specs page about mark pricing and fair basis?
[2016-08-04 02:18:07] NukeLaloosh : mark method is NOT FairPrice
[2016-08-04 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 700 @ 570.01
[2016-08-04 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 570.27 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-04 02:19:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 570.89
[2016-08-04 02:21:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 600 @ 572.02
[2016-08-04 02:21:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 572.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 02:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1385 @ 572.71
[2016-08-04 02:23:53] subjective : Short = burn in ashes, good luck trading everyone
[2016-08-04 02:23:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3269 @ 573.74
[2016-08-04 02:26:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21 @ 574.77
[2016-08-04 02:39:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 650 @ 567.14
[2016-08-04 02:42:37] BitMEX_Jinming : NukeLaloosh: `Mark Price = Spot Price(Kaiko) * (1+Funding Basis)`
[2016-08-04 02:43:13] BitMEX_Jinming : NukeLaloosh: You can find the calculation in `Position Marking` of `https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide`
[2016-08-04 02:43:59] NukeLaloosh : thanks Jinming
[2016-08-04 02:44:14] BitMEX_Jinming : You are welcome :)
[2016-08-04 02:59:09] zanza : https://steemit.com/bitfinex/@btcto100k/bitfinex-ceo-on-the-run
[2016-08-04 03:00:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 466 @ 0.01825
[2016-08-04 03:38:44] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: hey my realized pnl seems a little high? Can i private chat u
[2016-08-04 03:44:43] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: Sure, can you send the details to support@bitmex.com, we will look at it.
[2016-08-04 03:46:12] Skippy882 : You got it
[2016-08-04 03:50:59] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: email starts with malesevic
[2016-08-04 03:53:53] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: Yes, I got it. Looking at it now.
[2016-08-04 04:02:05] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: cool still a little new
[2016-08-04 04:02:40] jung1 : morning
[2016-08-04 04:10:23] NukeLaloosh : jung1: yo
[2016-08-04 04:13:52] jung1 : bitcoin should have hard fork after finex scam
[2016-08-04 04:14:36] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-08-04 04:19:29] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: I have replied your email.
[2016-08-04 04:22:02] NukeLaloosh : i'd like to hard fork my sept long
[2016-08-04 04:22:49] jung1 : get rekt or die tryin'
[2016-08-04 04:23:06] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4w0ghl/my_lendingbots_log_from_right_before_bitfinex/
[2016-08-04 04:25:32] CaptainDean : Holy fuck i missed some massive rekt
[2016-08-04 04:25:54] jung1 : yeah bitcoin is dead
[2016-08-04 04:25:57] jung1 : now its official
[2016-08-04 04:27:33] CaptainDean : I'm having a hard tmie trying to figure out why poeple fucking blame bitcoin for that
[2016-08-04 04:27:58] CaptainDean : It's finex problem, not bitcoin itself
[2016-08-04 04:28:12] jung1 : its easiest way
[2016-08-04 04:28:18] jung1 : same was with gox
[2016-08-04 04:28:38] jung1 : "Goxed", "finexed". The lesson is clear: Don't have BTC in exchanges whose names sound like they can be turned into synonyms for being tricked/confounded.
[2016-08-04 04:28:46] jung1 : bitmexed?
[2016-08-04 04:28:50] jung1 : : |
[2016-08-04 04:28:59] CaptainDean : i hope not :P
[2016-08-04 04:29:02] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-04 04:29:24] CaptainDean : so we gain another 10$ since I left for hockey :P
[2016-08-04 04:29:43] CaptainDean : we had some massive rekt @ 572
[2016-08-04 04:30:41] CaptainDean : i think it's the guy that made a spike to that 572$ earlier today. he paid a premium 10$ on the 562$ but i'm just guessing
[2016-08-04 04:40:38] jung1 : btw
[2016-08-04 04:40:39] jung1 : Hacker used bitfinex and bitgo keys
[2016-08-04 04:41:28] jung1 : coinbase, bitstamp, kraken, shapeshift use bitgo as well
[2016-08-04 05:54:38] Muhammed : how long do you guys think until we see btc at $650 usd again?
[2016-08-04 05:59:07] jung1 : you mean $666?
[2016-08-04 05:59:42] jung1 : well basicly if hacker will sell all that 120k btc
[2016-08-04 05:59:58] jung1 : he could clean buy orders on most of exchanges
[2016-08-04 06:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.004845
[2016-08-04 06:01:13] rapidtrades : coinbase 590
[2016-08-04 06:01:24] Muhammed : jung1: stuth
[2016-08-04 06:04:01] jung1 : sloth?
[2016-08-04 06:04:21] jung1 : http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/437/645/a9d.jpg
[2016-08-04 06:08:25] lockhedge : jung1: the hacker didn't directly use BitGo's key, BitGo just signed all tx signed by Bitfinex. that's how it supposed to work
[2016-08-04 06:09:12] jung1 : yeah but bitgo should check that $70mln withrawal
[2016-08-04 06:15:01] lockhedge : jung1: not their job to manually review transactions.
[2016-08-04 06:33:34] BitMEX_Wally : BitGo lets you configure limits and they they will only counter-sign within these limits
[2016-08-04 06:34:07] BitMEX_Wally : Will be interesting to see if Bitfinex had such limits configured, and if so, how they were breached
[2016-08-04 06:35:10] sharpie0101 : how get bigo key?
[2016-08-04 06:35:35] sharpie0101 : should just follow aes standards
[2016-08-04 06:35:56] BitMEX_Wally : Bitfinex had an API key with BitGo which they used to instruct BitGo to sign transactions
[2016-08-04 06:36:26] BitMEX_Wally : BitGo's private keys were not compromised says BitGo
[2016-08-04 06:40:58] micmix : I would assume that BitGo had at least basic checks for those 'sign tx' API calls and could detect unusual activity like large number of calls per minute
[2016-08-04 06:45:07] jung1 : yeah they should saw it
[2016-08-04 06:45:10] lockhedge : their main product BitGo Instant requires a fixed set of rules. they only do not co-sign transactions if they detect double spending or limits set by the user were hit
[2016-08-04 06:46:21] jung1 : so I bet that more than 1mln bitcoin was stolen totally
[2016-08-04 06:46:30] BitMEX_Wally : So the question is, what limits were set by the user?
[2016-08-04 06:48:21] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: seems like Bitfinex had only local limits and required BitGo to sign all tx
[2016-08-04 06:48:30] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah :(
[2016-08-04 06:48:36] micmix : are those limits per each BitGo wallet, meaning per individual wallets of each finex customer?
[2016-08-04 06:50:00] micmix : bc there was no one finex wallet, every finex customer has its own
[2016-08-04 06:52:20] lockhedge : you can set per-transaction spending limits and daily limits per wallet
[2016-08-04 06:53:41] micmix : let say I manage 10 wallets, can I set a combined limit for all 10 wallets?
[2016-08-04 06:54:09] lockhedge : every Bitfinex customer should have had the possibility to use the "Freeze wallet" option, but it's worthless if Bitfinex instructs to co-sign them without any grace period
[2016-08-04 06:57:04] lockhedge : micmix: i can only set per wallet limits
[2016-08-04 07:04:09] micmix : well, per-wallet limit is useless in case of a hack if the hacker can sign txs from thousands of wallets while staying within the limits set for each wallet. they need some kind of aggregate limits per API key or something like that
[2016-08-04 07:04:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.004678
[2016-08-04 07:07:35] micmix : 'instruct BitGo to sign txs' instead 'sign txs' to be exact
[2016-08-04 07:07:44] micmix : *instead of
[2016-08-04 07:08:04] lockhedge : from a regulatory view (and this was crucial for Bitfinex to choose this setup) the wallets were not owned or controlled by Bitfinex, so they weren't able to set company-wide limits for wallets not owned by the company.
[2016-08-04 07:11:18] micmix : I see, so basically Bitfinex outsourced customers' wallet management to BitGo but still kept full control over the wallets. One could argue that the content of the wallets were still owned and controlled by Bitfinex.
[2016-08-04 07:12:43] micmix : Lawyers will make a lot of money arguing that case
[2016-08-04 07:14:14] lockhedge : i fear most of the money left will be spent on lawyers and block chain analytics companies
[2016-08-04 07:17:24] micmix : I think our only chance to see the money is for hacker to do something stupid and get caught.
[2016-08-04 07:22:17] rapidtrades : our only chance? did ur wallet get haxxed
[2016-08-04 07:25:13] micmix : rapidtrades: btc deposit address shows zero balance, so most likely btc is gone. usd should be there but if finex declares bankruptcy no one will see their money for quite some time
[2016-08-04 07:29:02] rapidtrades : that sucks man
[2016-08-04 07:29:38] rapidtrades : the only addresses i have show no movement but there's plenty others in ''my wallet''
[2016-08-04 07:29:49] rapidtrades : what a joke of a system
[2016-08-04 07:30:03] rapidtrades : i assumed like everyone that theey kept most in cold storage
[2016-08-04 07:31:24] rapidtrades : i had waaaay too much on there....left okc earlier this year and finex took up the slack
[2016-08-04 07:31:50] rapidtrades : should've spread it out on some of the chinese futures instead
[2016-08-04 07:32:21] jung1 : I had there like 0.5btc
[2016-08-04 07:32:56] rapidtrades : if the 120k number is correct isn't that only 5-10% of their coins?
[2016-08-04 07:33:07] rapidtrades : where are ppl getting this idea that they lost most of it
[2016-08-04 07:33:56] rapidtrades : stamp hack last year was 12% they lost around 20k?
[2016-08-04 07:34:12] rapidtrades : finex is much larger exchange
[2016-08-04 07:35:23] micmix : I doubt they had anywhere near 1m of customer coins. Their volume was 4m from the beginning of the year, so they had maybe 400k coins
[2016-08-04 07:35:48] rapidtrades : a lot of ppl prolly treated it like a bank
[2016-08-04 07:35:53] habibi : around 250k micmix
[2016-08-04 07:35:55] rapidtrades : i know i thought it was safe
[2016-08-04 07:36:01] micmix : yeah
[2016-08-04 07:36:05] rapidtrades : habibi: YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
[2016-08-04 07:36:08] rapidtrades : hajibi
[2016-08-04 07:36:39] rapidtrades : the only chart i saw showed the addresses drop by 6%
[2016-08-04 07:36:48] habibi : how u know 5-10% of total coins then ? its deff far from speculation from the right number
[2016-08-04 07:37:08] jung1 : couse not every account had 2f authorisation
[2016-08-04 07:37:14] bernx : Someone gift yesterday 1k btc on reddit to random guy
[2016-08-04 07:37:39] jung1 : only those account are affected
[2016-08-04 07:38:02] habibi : jung1: false
[2016-08-04 07:38:40] rapidtrades : habibi: from that reddit post with accounts
[2016-08-04 07:38:44] rapidtrades : trying to find it
[2016-08-04 07:38:57] rapidtrades : not sure it's all bitgo addresses tho or just finex
[2016-08-04 07:39:17] habibi : u mean multi sig addresses
[2016-08-04 07:39:19] micmix : do you mean this: http://p2sh.info/dashboard/db/p2sh-statistics
[2016-08-04 07:39:20] habibi : not only finex use them
[2016-08-04 07:39:24] rapidtrades : micmix: yes
[2016-08-04 07:39:27] rapidtrades : tnx
[2016-08-04 07:39:39] rapidtrades : what does that tell u?
[2016-08-04 07:39:41] micmix : it shows all multisig wallets, not only finex
[2016-08-04 07:39:56] rapidtrades : like in all of bitcoinland?
[2016-08-04 07:40:38] micmix : yes, all of bitcoinland. and most companies keep large amount of bitcoin in multisig wallets
[2016-08-04 07:41:22] rapidtrades : well great
[2016-08-04 07:41:54] rapidtrades : then we shouldn't be trading this high
[2016-08-04 07:43:17] micmix : well I'm off, hope finex will allow us to login tomorrow and see balances, this suspense is killing me
[2016-08-04 07:43:28] rapidtrades : that's today
[2016-08-04 07:44:24] rapidtrades : coinbase still going wild at 583
[2016-08-04 07:44:30] micmix : well I'm going to bed, so tomorrow for me
[2016-08-04 07:44:40] rapidtrades : cool take care man
[2016-08-04 07:45:22] lockhedge : micmix: good night
[2016-08-04 07:46:34] rapidtrades : lockhedge: how about u? got hit?
[2016-08-04 07:47:37] lockhedge : no, stopped using finex about 1 year ago
[2016-08-04 07:47:47] rapidtrades : wise choice
[2016-08-04 07:48:06] rapidtrades : anyone used bitvc?
[2016-08-04 07:48:26] lockhedge : they had about $40m active USD loans, does that mean this amount is still there on their bank accounts?
[2016-08-04 07:48:44] jung1 : rapidtrades: whats this?
[2016-08-04 07:48:56] rapidtrades : what's what
[2016-08-04 07:49:08] jung1 : bitvc
[2016-08-04 07:49:22] rapidtrades : lockhedge: they said some of those loans could be compromised because they were used to buy BTC which was then stolen
[2016-08-04 07:50:05] rapidtrades : so they will make lenders pay for some of the losses
[2016-08-04 07:51:27] habibi : u dont know that at the end, i guess they dont know that yet as well, how they will deal with that
[2016-08-04 07:51:38] rapidtrades : they already said that
[2016-08-04 07:52:07] habibi : u mean zane on /r//
[2016-08-04 07:52:10] rapidtrades : u don't know anything hajibi
[2016-08-04 07:52:40] habibi : we ll see rapidsoon
[2016-08-04 07:53:09] rapidtrades : usd holders should be 'fine'
[2016-08-04 07:53:23] rapidtrades : until the 'cease and desist' lawsuit comes
[2016-08-04 07:56:17] rapidtrades : ok finex was 5x size of stamp right....approximately
[2016-08-04 07:56:18] lockhedge : tricky question if everybody will have the same hair cut or some people (in this case mostly corporate clients who deposited USD) have a higher level of protection
[2016-08-04 07:56:45] rapidtrades : like they said, if u held USD and not lend it out, ur ok
[2016-08-04 07:57:32] rapidtrades : like i was saying finex was 5x stamp....and stamp lost 12% so they had about 50 mil last year
[2016-08-04 07:57:41] rapidtrades : means finex had 250 mil
[2016-08-04 07:57:53] rapidtrades : prolly more due to bitcoin price doubling
[2016-08-04 07:58:11] rapidtrades : so 300-400 mil...maybe?
[2016-08-04 07:58:34] rapidtrades : that's 20% worst case scenario
[2016-08-04 07:59:18] rapidtrades : unless there was a massive exodus after their july f*ckup
[2016-08-04 08:00:40] rapidtrades : is the volume data on trading view accurate
[2016-08-04 08:04:06] rapidtrades : ok so going by TV volume data, stamp was 1/6 the siz
[2016-08-04 08:04:16] rapidtrades : so my math kind of adds up...
[2016-08-04 08:05:39] rapidtrades : do chinese exchanges us multisig?
[2016-08-04 08:07:08] jung1 : you can use it
[2016-08-04 08:07:11] jung1 : but its not obligatory
[2016-08-04 08:07:47] jung1 : btw is it possible to make futures contracts on decentralised exchange?
[2016-08-04 08:08:02] rapidtrades : problem is ofc that 20% is not spread out...if ur affected u'll be wiped out
[2016-08-04 08:09:20] rapidtrades : jung1: prolly
[2016-08-04 08:09:33] rapidtrades : i wouldn't trade that tho due to liquidity issues
[2016-08-04 08:10:08] rapidtrades : spreading out some % across several futures sites looks better idea if ur actively tradingg
[2016-08-04 08:10:24] rapidtrades : stop too much risk with 1/3 requirement
[2016-08-04 08:10:30] rapidtrades : spot*
[2016-08-04 08:12:25] jung1 : so basicly
[2016-08-04 08:12:28] jung1 : ALL HAIL BITMEX
[2016-08-04 08:13:44] bernx : jung1: can't fap to this :<
[2016-08-04 08:14:08] rapidtrades : i had USD in finex for the longest time....i was like lend it out...no wait u may need to short
[2016-08-04 08:14:16] rapidtrades : I almost lent it out
[2016-08-04 08:15:25] rapidtrades : u can't trust any of these sites man...if finex can go under they all can
[2016-08-04 08:15:36] jung1 : shure
[2016-08-04 08:16:01] rapidtrades : granted finex showed a greater level of incompetence then say bitmex
[2016-08-04 08:16:02] bernx : Lol, Finex at BVI. Of this is risk
[2016-08-04 08:17:09] rapidtrades : so what dummy? being incorporated in BVI doesn't make u more likely to get hacked
[2016-08-04 08:17:34] wotan : why i cannot sell my position?
[2016-08-04 08:17:45] jung1 : yes you can
[2016-08-04 08:17:53] wotan : and why my size is minus?
[2016-08-04 08:18:03] wotan : no i just could sell a part of it
[2016-08-04 08:18:09] aaa : wotan: you are short
[2016-08-04 08:18:13] wotan : when i sell now more it adds it to my margin
[2016-08-04 08:18:20] rapidtrades : yeah u get more short :)
[2016-08-04 08:18:24] aethlios : any plans to turn etc7D to swap??
[2016-08-04 08:18:36] rapidtrades : minus means ur short now...ur long is already closed
[2016-08-04 08:18:38] bernx : rapidtrades: law zone mate
[2016-08-04 08:18:39] jung1 : if you want to close your short you have to buy same amount
[2016-08-04 08:18:49] wotan : got it thanks
[2016-08-04 08:19:02] rapidtrades : bernx: shut up mate
[2016-08-04 08:19:15] bernx : rapidtrades: maybe you shut up, kid?
[2016-08-04 08:19:21] rapidtrades : eat me
[2016-08-04 08:19:24] rapidtrades : punk
[2016-08-04 08:19:30] bernx : you can't even talk normally. go sleep kid
[2016-08-04 08:19:50] rapidtrades : lol the irony of that comment ^^^
[2016-08-04 08:20:03] rapidtrades : 'go sleep kid'
[2016-08-04 08:20:32] herpinator : lol
[2016-08-04 08:21:28] wotan : willi get back my withheld profit?
[2016-08-04 08:21:46] wotan : it will be withheld and then set free when all going good right?
[2016-08-04 08:22:09] rapidtrades : wotan: on the swap its released in 4 hrs
[2016-08-04 08:22:16] rapidtrades : 12:00 UTC
[2016-08-04 08:22:29] wotan : nice man i mad a stupid long just hours before the finex hack
[2016-08-04 08:22:52] wotan : now managed to get all back with a win as i set a long form the ground
[2016-08-04 08:23:54] wotan : btc trading you really need strong nerves
[2016-08-04 08:24:14] rapidtrades : true dat
[2016-08-04 08:40:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 900 @ 58914.0
[2016-08-04 08:58:01] jesperf : who turned off the bots at okcoin?
[2016-08-04 08:58:54] jesperf : and what's up with all that dump
[2016-08-04 08:59:36] jung1 : finex was hacked
[2016-08-04 08:59:39] jung1 : 120k btc stoolen
[2016-08-04 09:00:06] jesperf : really? where am i?
[2016-08-04 09:00:35] lockhedge : FT: "the co-signing process may have been overly dependent on automated sign offs" https://next.ft.com/content/1ea8baf8-5a11-11e6-8d05-4eaa66292c32
[2016-08-04 09:01:20] jesperf : jung1: 5 hours ago volume dropped like a push of a button
[2016-08-04 09:01:48] jesperf : and 15 minutes ago china started dumping
[2016-08-04 09:01:54] jung1 : jesperf: check /r/bitcoin
[2016-08-04 09:02:26] jesperf : jung1: you're dumb :)
[2016-08-04 09:02:36] jung1 : ?
[2016-08-04 09:06:50] wurstgelee : jung1: he is not refering to finex hack but most recently chart developments (last hours)
[2016-08-04 09:06:58] wurstgelee : *r
[2016-08-04 09:07:10] jesperf : wurstgelee: you're clever :)
[2016-08-04 09:07:22] wurstgelee : lolz :D
[2016-08-04 09:08:23] wurstgelee : we need a new hack, i am embracing knifes to catch now
[2016-08-04 09:08:25] wurstgelee : somebody take down okc please
[2016-08-04 09:18:05] bernx : bitcoin shart now looks like altcoin chart
[2016-08-04 09:30:35] rapidtrades : coinbase premium now 'only' 13
[2016-08-04 09:30:44] jung1 : etc falling
[2016-08-04 09:33:07] rapidtrades : let me know if finex posts update...can't check reddit every 5 mins
[2016-08-04 09:38:10] jesperf : bro do you even internet?
[2016-08-04 09:41:37] rapidtrades : FU JESREP
[2016-08-04 09:42:23] elmorte : rapidtrades: sign up for statuspage updates dude
[2016-08-04 09:42:28] elmorte : did you get your phone back?
[2016-08-04 09:48:26] jesperf : rapidtrades: y u mad
[2016-08-04 09:49:24] justinlooking : it's her time of the month
[2016-08-04 09:49:46] jesperf : oh i get that too
[2016-08-04 09:49:49] jung1 : yeah his hand is disabled for a while
[2016-08-04 09:50:32] jesperf : so annoying, can't wear white pants
[2016-08-04 09:51:07] justinlooking : and bf demands anal
[2016-08-04 10:02:53] elmorte : That's crossing the line guys, I'm sure rapid enjoys a bit of anal now & then
[2016-08-04 10:05:46] wurstgelee : oO
[2016-08-04 10:17:00] rapidtrades : 'We will have an announcement about this later today'
[2016-08-04 10:17:10] rapidtrades : so prolly tomorrow...or never
[2016-08-04 10:21:42] jesperf : well they just woke up over there
[2016-08-04 10:21:48] jesperf : assuming new york time
[2016-08-04 10:22:51] rapidtrades : ahole is in Amsterdam
[2016-08-04 10:23:03] rapidtrades : they don't have a set office
[2016-08-04 10:26:41] wotan : when will be an bitfinex announcement? thought it should be yesterday
[2016-08-04 10:27:29] jesperf : no, yesterday they said tomorrow and zane just posted "later today"
[2016-08-04 10:28:38] jesperf : sounds like the shia labeouf meme
[2016-08-04 10:28:40] jesperf : JUST DO IT
[2016-08-04 10:30:01] justinlooking : boe 30 mins
[2016-08-04 10:30:45] habibi : There was an announcement like 11 hours ago https://bitfinex.statuspage.io/ Today they will tell how they will deal with people's losses
[2016-08-04 10:31:06] wotan : ah get it
[2016-08-04 10:32:20] wotan : but we still dont know how much was really lost right
[2016-08-04 10:32:40] habibi : 119k btc
[2016-08-04 10:33:28] wotan : so the hacker could dump this any time?
[2016-08-04 10:34:45] jung1 : yup
[2016-08-04 10:34:59] habibi : yea he already sent all bitcoins to coinbase, but he is verifying his account atm, after this he will sell all of them
[2016-08-04 10:35:12] justinlooking : rofl
[2016-08-04 10:36:11] jung1 : would be funny if he will buy all etc for that money
[2016-08-04 10:36:14] wotan : true thats not that easy
[2016-08-04 10:36:19] jung1 : and pump it to $100
[2016-08-04 10:36:30] justinlooking : $100 etc gtfo
[2016-08-04 10:37:51] wotan : he could get his coins into a coin mixer to anon his coins but i have read its not 100% anonym
[2016-08-04 10:38:03] wotan : lol yes that would be funny
[2016-08-04 10:38:34] wotan : if he would be a good man he would refund the money t the people and played the market meanwhile
[2016-08-04 10:38:51] wotan : then he made alot of money (if he holds capital) and no one can blame him
[2016-08-04 10:39:13] habibi : absolutely noone
[2016-08-04 10:41:12] rapidtrades : pretty sure the police will still blame him
[2016-08-04 10:41:57] wotan : or he did both ways and do double money
[2016-08-04 10:47:04] rapidtrades : he should go with the 'YouTube defense'
[2016-08-04 10:47:43] rapidtrades : IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO
[2016-08-04 10:48:02] rapidtrades : A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT
[2016-08-04 10:48:18] jung1 : so lets make hardfork on bitcoin
[2016-08-04 10:48:43] rapidtrades : Let's hardfork ur mom how about that
[2016-08-04 10:50:59] wotan : no way of hardfork btc lol look at eth
[2016-08-04 10:51:25] wotan : i think the so called hacker could be even a government official who knows
[2016-08-04 10:51:32] jung1 : /irony
[2016-08-04 10:51:59] jung1 : rapidtrades: I have hard fork in my kitchen
[2016-08-04 10:52:39] rapidtrades : sleger shouldn't have come back imo
[2016-08-04 10:52:48] wotan : long or short at this point?
[2016-08-04 10:52:48] rapidtrades : he had a legend status after he left
[2016-08-04 10:53:04] rapidtrades : how he's just meh, it's sleger again
[2016-08-04 10:53:54] rapidtrades : who's that? oh that's sleger he pops in here from time to time
[2016-08-04 10:55:12] lopol : How can i see how much leverage was in my order?
[2016-08-04 10:57:39] justinlooking : lopol: in "your position" the value on the left overlaying the green/red scale tells you approx current leverage
[2016-08-04 10:58:09] rapidtrades : he already closed it
[2016-08-04 10:59:25] lopol : I didint close it but still i cant see it
[2016-08-04 11:00:05] lopol : my position is 1300 contracts but where can i see leverage?
[2016-08-04 11:01:43] roman-roman : when will the etc drop significantly? All the developers support ETH, it seems like it's an easy yes to short the fuck out of etc
[2016-08-04 11:01:47] lopol : oh I can change my leverage after the trade?
[2016-08-04 11:02:42] justinlooking : lopol: of course
[2016-08-04 11:02:50] lockhedge : lopol: look at the "Margin" tab in open positions, does it say "Cross"?
[2016-08-04 11:04:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 800 @ 0.01837
[2016-08-04 11:05:21] justinlooking : boe cut + more stimulus
[2016-08-04 11:05:42] lockhedge : leverage should be `position value / margin` if you use isolated margin or `position value / wallet balance`if you use cross
[2016-08-04 11:06:34] lockhedge : margin balance not wallet balance....
[2016-08-04 11:07:37] lopol : on margin tab reads 0,8817 XBT (6.74x)
[2016-08-04 11:07:47] lopol : so is the leverage 6.74?
[2016-08-04 11:08:01] lopol : and why doest that change all the time little bit?
[2016-08-04 11:08:01] lockhedge : then it's 6.74x leverage
[2016-08-04 11:28:32] justinlooking : rETCKTCKTCKTC
[2016-08-04 11:29:48] jung1 : looks like money flows from etc to eth
[2016-08-04 11:29:56] jung1 : time to fork ETC
[2016-08-04 11:30:20] jung1 : for ETC and Ethereum Classic Legit
[2016-08-04 11:33:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004246
[2016-08-04 11:34:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.004226
[2016-08-04 11:35:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2421 @ 0.004124
[2016-08-04 11:37:49] macios15 : WIDZIAŁAM ORŁAAA CIEŃ
[2016-08-04 11:42:01] jesperf : whoa calm down your polishness
[2016-08-04 11:42:27] justinlooking : what happens tomorrow if u16 mark is higher than the liq at rebalance time?
[2016-08-04 11:43:12] justinlooking : dynamic loss equalization?
[2016-08-04 11:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 100 @ 0.01893
[2016-08-04 11:46:29] lockhedge : justinlooking: only if mark price is below the liquidation order's price (and the insurance fund is empty)
[2016-08-04 11:47:04] justinlooking : lockhedge: was kinda joking about the dpe/dle
[2016-08-04 11:48:06] lockhedge : ah ok, overread the "loss equalization" :)
[2016-08-04 12:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 999 @ 0.004050
[2016-08-04 12:05:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 11 @ 0.004086
[2016-08-04 12:08:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 75 @ 0.003998
[2016-08-04 12:09:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 318 @ 0.003909
[2016-08-04 12:09:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 135 @ 0.003855
[2016-08-04 12:11:05] dasdfasdf : When does the Withdrawl notification stay on top of inferface? I saw it yesterday but not today. I liked the time count down.
[2016-08-04 12:11:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 250 @ 0.01907
[2016-08-04 12:12:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 200 @ 0.01910
[2016-08-04 12:12:44] subjective : Now Bitmex is pretty awesome with ETC traders here
[2016-08-04 12:16:25] jesperf : congrats to the brave shorters
[2016-08-04 12:16:47] justinlooking : if ethetc breaks 0.2 i'm yolo shorting
[2016-08-04 12:17:36] jesperf : tbh i don't understand how it reached 0.005 so quickly
[2016-08-04 12:17:44] jesperf : someone knows how to play the markets
[2016-08-04 12:18:58] jesperf : and eth is doing its phoenix thing in full blast now
[2016-08-04 12:30:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 2000 @ 58633.0
[2016-08-04 12:30:46] justinlooking : where is XBJ???
[2016-08-04 12:31:03] justinlooking : reload fixed it
[2016-08-04 12:31:24] habibi : yea have some issues pairs like to dissapear
[2016-08-04 12:31:59] rapidtrades : we're still trading much higher then china
[2016-08-04 12:32:04] rapidtrades : that's not right
[2016-08-04 12:33:42] rapidtrades : by we i mean usd sites
[2016-08-04 12:34:28] rapidtrades : bitfinex hasn't sent ONE email
[2016-08-04 12:34:58] rapidtrades : so if ur on holiday ur SOL i guess
[2016-08-04 12:35:51] rapidtrades : The minimum balance for access to the chat is increased to $ 1000
[2016-08-04 12:35:56] rapidtrades : LOL btc-e^^^
[2016-08-04 12:36:11] lockhedge : Kraken btc/eur at a $20 premium vs china
[2016-08-04 12:36:43] rapidtrades : yeah it's kinda crazy what's going on
[2016-08-04 12:37:04] rapidtrades : even btce at 577
[2016-08-04 12:37:13] rapidtrades : almost $10 above china
[2016-08-04 12:37:21] rapidtrades : really doubt we have it right this time
[2016-08-04 12:38:03] lockhedge : don't know but kraken and gdax were right about the price the last time i complaint about them
[2016-08-04 12:38:19] lockhedge : complained
[2016-08-04 12:38:22] rapidtrades : last time? u mean on 4th of july?
[2016-08-04 12:39:18] jesperf : do humans trade on chinese exchanges? i thought it was mostly bots
[2016-08-04 12:39:19] lockhedge : 2 days ago when they traded at a discount vs all the others
[2016-08-04 12:40:29] habibi : Bitmex guys?
[2016-08-04 12:40:52] habibi : U have new market to add - bitfinex coin.
[2016-08-04 12:41:00] habibi : and i am not jk :p
[2016-08-04 12:41:13] rapidtrades : u can transfer claims on finex can u?
[2016-08-04 12:41:14] Hoble : Any reason an XBTUSD contract would be liquidated before reaching liquidation price?
[2016-08-04 12:41:24] rapidtrades : mtgox had certificates
[2016-08-04 12:41:52] rapidtrades : i meant u can't
[2016-08-04 12:42:02] Hoble : I had a small short w liq price $573, though trade history reveals a recent high of $570
[2016-08-04 12:42:05] macios15 : predicted founding still at -0,5% lol
[2016-08-04 12:42:59] Hoble : anyone know the help email for bitmex?
[2016-08-04 12:43:03] lockhedge : too bad bitmex never launched these exchange default swaps
[2016-08-04 12:43:14] habibi : helpEmail@bitmex.com i guess
[2016-08-04 12:43:56] jesperf : what are you daft
[2016-08-04 12:43:56] lockhedge : support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-04 12:43:58] jesperf : support@bitmex.com
[2016-08-04 12:44:39] jesperf : i wonder if it is stupid guys who can't find the support email who make the best trades
[2016-08-04 12:45:22] jesperf : i just know the most successful hedge fund traders would never trade their own money :P
[2016-08-04 12:48:24] Hoble : habibi: thanks
[2016-08-04 12:48:40] Hoble : jesperf: ok will send to support :)
[2016-08-04 12:50:05] habibi : Hoble: that was ironic, support@bitmex.com is where u send ur problems
[2016-08-04 12:51:01] rapidtrades : all futures are pointing down
[2016-08-04 12:51:14] rapidtrades : USD spot seems delusional atm
[2016-08-04 12:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3362 @ 0.004390
[2016-08-04 12:52:52] lockhedge : rapidtrades: do you know which exchange will be added to okc's futures index instead of finex?
[2016-08-04 12:53:17] rapidtrades : no