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[2016-08-03 13:34:00] mike1000 : Rado: sure
[2016-08-03 13:34:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 320 @ 0.005263
[2016-08-03 13:43:14] Rado : mike1000: https://twitter.com/hubavka
[2016-08-03 13:43:36] mike1000 : Rado: thx, ll write you soom
[2016-08-03 13:44:03] mike1000 : Just need to remember my twitter passwd :)
[2016-08-03 13:46:45] Airmike : Hi guys. could you tell me where I can find data about trading volume on BitMex ?
[2016-08-03 13:47:58] BitMEX_Sam : Airmike: https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Stats/Stats_history
[2016-08-03 13:49:10] Rado : Airmike: simple 24h volumes by coinmarketcap as well https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitmex/
[2016-08-03 13:50:04] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: are these numbers accurate?
[2016-08-03 13:50:06] Airmike : thank you
[2016-08-03 13:50:35] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Not exactly, http://exchangewar.info/ is generally more accurate
[2016-08-03 13:50:47] Rado : thanks
[2016-08-03 14:01:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2563 @ 0.005552
[2016-08-03 14:01:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.005646
[2016-08-03 14:03:34] CaptainDean : good morning
[2016-08-03 14:03:49] CaptainDean : looks like we are on the road to 500$
[2016-08-03 14:03:57] CaptainDean : 600$*
[2016-08-03 14:04:04] dasdfasdf : that sounds better
[2016-08-03 14:07:07] Rado : $600 is easy
[2016-08-03 14:07:13] Rado : the question is what happens after that
[2016-08-03 14:07:54] CaptainDean : we go to 620 and we go down again
[2016-08-03 14:08:01] CaptainDean : i really don't know :P
[2016-08-03 14:08:09] Rado : lol
[2016-08-03 14:08:14] Rado : you and everyone else
[2016-08-03 14:08:15] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-03 14:08:26] Rado : I think long term this is a very good place to enter
[2016-08-03 14:08:40] jesperf : the best piece of advice is to flip a coin
[2016-08-03 14:08:46] Rado : in a year people will beat themself up for not buying at $500
[2016-08-03 14:08:58] CaptainDean : we are deu for a correction, we are just going up since the crash
[2016-08-03 14:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 555.34
[2016-08-03 14:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 720 @ 555.57
[2016-08-03 14:16:01] ersagun : Guys, do different positions get merged under one single position in here? As it looks like that but then what determines the liquidation price as it was different on my 3 positions?
[2016-08-03 14:16:43] rapidtrades : yeah everything is merged if under same contract
[2016-08-03 14:18:05] bitbucks : how is the xbt mark being calculated without bitfinex
[2016-08-03 14:18:07] ersagun : And the current liquidation price is a weighted average of all positions combined?
[2016-08-03 14:18:37] aethlios : bitbucks: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-03 14:18:47] bitbucks : thanks
[2016-08-03 14:18:52] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-08-03 14:18:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2600 @ 552.22
[2016-08-03 14:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 130 @ 551.19
[2016-08-03 14:19:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19000 @ 550.38
[2016-08-03 14:20:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, you always have a single position ersagun
[2016-08-03 14:20:36] BitMEX_Sam : If you sell 10, then sell 10, you've sold 20, you don't have two independent positions of -10
[2016-08-03 14:20:50] dorothy490 : what is column "exec price" in Fills?
[2016-08-03 14:21:17] BitMEX_Sam : Execution Price
[2016-08-03 14:22:24] rapidtrades : dam we ALMOST filled sept liq
[2016-08-03 14:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 549.76
[2016-08-03 14:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 630 @ 549.67
[2016-08-03 14:24:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6420 @ 547.11
[2016-08-03 14:24:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 547.37
[2016-08-03 14:24:48] ersagun : BitMEX_Sam: thanks. And the current liquidation price is a weighted average, right? So that I can add some more positions in order to keep a position open which is nearing it's liquidation price?
[2016-08-03 14:25:09] BitMEX_Sam : Generally you'd want to reduce to avoid getting liquidated, not increase
[2016-08-03 14:25:19] BitMEX_Sam : So yes, if you're short, buy some contracts, or vice-versa, if you want to stave off liquidation
[2016-08-03 14:25:29] BitMEX_Sam : Alternatively, add funds or reduce leverage via the slider on the left
[2016-08-03 14:25:44] ersagun : Yeah asking theoretically to understand the mechanic. Got it
[2016-08-03 14:27:52] dorothy490 : why on Liqudation Exec price actually differs from Liquidation price?
[2016-08-03 14:28:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9090 @ 542.03
[2016-08-03 14:28:24] BitMEX_Sam : Because liquidations are executed at your bankruptcy price, not at your liquidation price
[2016-08-03 14:28:33] BitMEX_Sam : The system needs a small amount of buffer with which to sell the position
[2016-08-03 14:28:45] BitMEX_Sam : We're working to display more information on those liquidations to make it clearer.
[2016-08-03 14:34:46] rapidtrades : this finex shit will drag on for days
[2016-08-03 14:34:53] rapidtrades : can't see it helping sentiment
[2016-08-03 14:35:02] elmorte : for sure
[2016-08-03 14:36:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 546.66
[2016-08-03 14:36:28] rapidtrades : how many wallets got drained
[2016-08-03 14:36:39] rapidtrades : did they go for big ones or what
[2016-08-03 14:38:34] Rado : suspension i skilling me rapidtrades
[2016-08-03 14:38:46] rapidtrades : DOES NOONE DO RESEARCH HERE
[2016-08-03 14:38:50] Rado : need to know if my account is gone or not
[2016-08-03 14:39:36] rapidtrades : guess we'll know today...whenever they allow logins
[2016-08-03 14:39:45] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: have you guys conceder min order amount
[2016-08-03 14:39:57] elmorte : What makes you think it's today? @rapidtrades
[2016-08-03 14:39:59] Rado : for example on ETC7D should be 100 contarcts
[2016-08-03 14:40:01] rapidtrades : u got a 5-10% chance for total annihilation
[2016-08-03 14:40:08] Rado : I hate the 3 contracts orders
[2016-08-03 14:40:11] rapidtrades : elmorte: zaneticket
[2016-08-03 14:40:15] dasdfasdf : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-03 14:40:23] elmorte : Cool
[2016-08-03 14:40:38] Rado : rapidtrades: how did you calculate the 5-10%
[2016-08-03 14:40:50] rapidtrades : that's how much coins they lost
[2016-08-03 14:41:21] rapidtrades : but if u affected you'll lose everything cos they're not spreading it around
[2016-08-03 14:41:35] rapidtrades : that's what I gather from zane comments anyway
[2016-08-03 14:41:59] dasdfasdf : How could you justify that
[2016-08-03 14:42:13] rapidtrades : 'segregated wallets'
[2016-08-03 14:42:16] rapidtrades : LOL
[2016-08-03 14:42:30] elmorte : SOL
[2016-08-03 14:42:37] rapidtrades : basically
[2016-08-03 14:43:40] elmorte : Ok, so at least they'll allow read access today...that's a good thing. I just need a $65 jump in bitcoin to get out of my long
[2016-08-03 14:43:56] Rado : rapidtrades: do you know if exchange wallets were affected?
[2016-08-03 14:44:03] Rado : looks like funding wallets were
[2016-08-03 14:44:06] Rado : as well as margin
[2016-08-03 14:44:14] rapidtrades : they all are affected
[2016-08-03 14:44:15] Rado : not sure if exchange wallets were as well
[2016-08-03 14:44:26] rapidtrades : all btc
[2016-08-03 14:44:33] Rado : so no difference
[2016-08-03 14:44:42] Rado : they keep them in the same palce?
[2016-08-03 14:44:45] Rado : place
[2016-08-03 14:45:24] rapidtrades : your bitgo wallet is HD and contains several addresses including those 3 u see
[2016-08-03 14:46:41] Rado : k
[2016-08-03 14:51:29] rapidtrades : they're not even giving a timeline...just 'today UTC'
[2016-08-03 14:51:47] rapidtrades : and they subtly started wording it today instead of daytime UTC
[2016-08-03 14:52:02] rapidtrades : so it may not even happen today given finex record
[2016-08-03 14:52:45] elmorte : today UTC is pretty definitive. Before midnight UTC
[2016-08-03 14:53:02] elmorte : if he didn't specify the timezone, it'd be more suss
[2016-08-03 14:53:46] rapidtrades : b4 it was daytime not today
[2016-08-03 15:04:57] lockhedge : rapidtrades: they will probably spend several $100k for legal advice now, then they will announce something
[2016-08-03 15:06:22] elmorte : Ah, I didn't see the earlier posts
[2016-08-03 15:18:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 547.66
[2016-08-03 15:18:52] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-08-03 15:24:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5500 @ 550.74
[2016-08-03 15:39:03] sleepywhale : How does a trader set a stop loss on an order? Is liquidation price the only "stop loss" that is available? Say I buy a 1000 contracts now, but I don't want to loose more than %3 Ideally I'd set my stop at $575
[2016-08-03 15:54:59] BitMEX_Sam : sleepywhale: See the Stop Market order type
[2016-08-03 16:03:32] BitMEX_Greg : sleepywhale: https://www.bitmex.com/app/stopLimitOrder
[2016-08-03 16:07:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.01665
[2016-08-03 16:22:25] sleepywhale : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks, I see you have to use them in conjunction with other order types. So if I wanted to go long at $500 I'd have to set a limit order and then to create a stop loss I have to create a stop limit at the value I'd like to exit my position at and the price I'd like that order to execute at once the price drops below the trigger?
[2016-08-03 16:28:16] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-08-03 16:30:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 555.28
[2016-08-03 16:32:38] rapidtrades : china much lower
[2016-08-03 16:32:47] rapidtrades : pump is BS
[2016-08-03 16:35:26] BitMEX_Greg : sleepywhale: So do you want to put a stop order on an existing position or a new position? If you want an existing position you can look at `Stop Market` or `Trailing Stop`. If you want to place a new order with a stop then yes use the `Stop Limit` order
[2016-08-03 16:42:15] rapidtrades : so if ur coins are there cash out right away or what
[2016-08-03 16:42:23] rapidtrades : what's ur play
[2016-08-03 16:44:04] miramm1115 : mine are gone
[2016-08-03 16:45:45] ersagun : I doubt they will allow withdraws in few days
[2016-08-03 17:03:06] j8 : rapidtrades: if they do open trading there will be a huge shortage of coins on the exchange.. people might be scrambling to buy if they are able to withdraw
[2016-08-03 17:08:45] j8 : it's gonna be messy one way or another
[2016-08-03 17:11:45] rullwull : as i understood many longers are affected who bought stolen coins with leverage
[2016-08-03 17:15:25] j8 : yeah, well many of them would be way past bankrupt if their stolen coins were marked to $0
[2016-08-03 17:15:44] esuvari : BitMEX_Greg: my position seems to be closed on its own but neither recent trades, nor the price chart shows it
[2016-08-03 17:16:15] esuvari : it's odd because it was sold waaaay lower then the price.. how can this happen?
[2016-08-03 17:16:43] esuvari : etc7d price never went to 5065 but in my fills history, that's what I see.
[2016-08-03 17:17:04] rullwull : the hack has happened yesterday around 12UTC, acc with btc or btc longs are at that time are under risk, shorts are fine
[2016-08-03 17:17:32] rullwull : shorts could be opened without btc)
[2016-08-03 17:20:26] j8 : in theory, who knows how they'll actually handle it
[2016-08-03 17:22:50] brasska : even if they wont be handle it by themselves i believe there wont be a problem to find an external help, its an attractive bussines
[2016-08-03 17:23:48] wurstgelee : esuvari: which position?
[2016-08-03 17:24:09] wurstgelee : oh nvm
[2016-08-03 17:24:11] justinlooking : esuvari: what time?
[2016-08-03 17:24:31] wurstgelee : justinlooking: he doesnt know i guess
[2016-08-03 17:24:44] wurstgelee : " but neither recent trades, nor the price chart shows it"
[2016-08-03 17:24:53] justinlooking : it shows in fills
[2016-08-03 17:25:00] wurstgelee : it should
[2016-08-03 17:25:01] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-08-03 17:30:33] brasska : what is going with jpy mark price?
[2016-08-03 17:33:06] CaptainDean : BTC-E just spike at 580
[2016-08-03 17:49:43] BitMEX_Greg : esuvari: It shows your bankruptcy price, not the price at which it was liquidated at
[2016-08-03 17:56:39] mike1000 : BitMEX_Greg: how to get available balance (green) with API? Not wallet balance
[2016-08-03 17:57:35] mike1000 : Subtract pending profits?
[2016-08-03 17:58:27] BitMEX_Sam : mike1000: That's `margin.marginBalance`
[2016-08-03 18:06:13] mike1000 : BitMEX_Sam: that's identical to wallet balance, what I look for is `margin.availableMargin`.Thanks
[2016-08-03 18:08:14] BitMEX_Greg : mike1000: Try `margin.excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:08:32] BitMEX_Greg : This is for "Available Balance"
[2016-08-03 18:08:47] mike1000 : Same as `availableMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:10:21] mike1000 : Or `excessMargin` is `availableMargin` minus open positions?
[2016-08-03 18:14:33] lockhedge : seems like `availableMargin`is the same as `excessMargin`and `withdrawableMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:14:38] BitMEX_Sam : The "Available Balance" shown at the top next to the announcements horn is `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:15:15] BitMEX_Sam : `withdrawableMargin` can be less than `excessMargin` if you have unrealised profit (profit subject to DPE, before rebalance)
[2016-08-03 18:18:05] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: i have unrealised and withheld profit but `withdrawableMargin`is the same as `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:21:55] bernx : BitMEX_Sam: where i can check my trade history? like symmary PNL
[2016-08-03 18:30:28] BitMEX_Greg : mike1000: `availableMargin` is deprecated and is the same as `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:30:51] BitMEX_Greg : bernx: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 18:31:03] BitMEX_Greg : You can download a .csv there to work out your PnL
[2016-08-03 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 5700 @ 56885.0
[2016-08-03 18:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.005223
[2016-08-03 18:32:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 3000 @ 57083.0
[2016-08-03 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 561.29 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 561.49
[2016-08-03 18:41:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12000 @ 562.87
[2016-08-03 18:42:49] blacktuesday : is it possible to log in on iOS with clef app?
[2016-08-03 18:43:11] blacktuesday : only seem to be able to use clef login on laptop.
[2016-08-03 18:43:18] Rado : you can
[2016-08-03 18:43:23] Rado : I use it on my iPhone
[2016-08-03 18:43:38] blacktuesday : I get an error when login with clef on iphone
[2016-08-03 18:44:04] Rado : what kind of error?
[2016-08-03 18:44:13] Rado : I get a pop up that says open Clef
[2016-08-03 18:44:23] Rado : then I confirm and it logs me in
[2016-08-03 18:45:04] blacktuesday : yeah I get that pop up, i confirm on the app but then it returns to bitmex login page with: "error during clef login: Invalid CSRF token" please retry...
[2016-08-03 18:45:18] blacktuesday : upon retry, same issue repeats
[2016-08-03 18:45:39] Rado : are you logged in on your Clef app?
[2016-08-03 18:45:47] blacktuesday : lyes
[2016-08-03 18:45:49] blacktuesday : yes
[2016-08-03 18:46:02] Rado : have you changed devices?
[2016-08-03 18:46:06] blacktuesday : nope
[2016-08-03 18:46:19] Rado : you can try disabling Clef and then enabling it again
[2016-08-03 18:46:29] Rado : it will ask you to set it up again I think
[2016-08-03 18:46:40] Rado : don't know more about this
[2016-08-03 18:46:54] blacktuesday : hmm.. ok. does it allow multiple logins like can i be login with clef both on my laptop and phone at same time?
[2016-08-03 18:46:57] Rado : you can also email BitMEX and/or Clef support
[2016-08-03 18:47:06] blacktuesday : thanks rado no worries. that's the next step
[2016-08-03 18:47:16] Rado : I am logged in on both yes
[2016-08-03 18:47:45] omicron : blacktuesday: i get the error with csrf token and i dont use clef
[2016-08-03 18:48:49] Eastbay : hi, new user here, waiting to deposit and start trading, you guys having any issues?
[2016-08-03 18:49:37] Eastbay : major issues, i mean, that are effecting say trading/leverage/deposits/withdraws ect..
[2016-08-03 18:49:38] Rado : Eastbay: the best exchange from my perspective
[2016-08-03 18:50:06] Eastbay : yeah, im starting to get back into leverage trading after losing it all on x20 okcoin :)
[2016-08-03 18:50:09] Eastbay : fun stuff
[2016-08-03 18:50:21] Rado : sorry to hear
[2016-08-03 18:50:29] Eastbay : "woodchipper" lool
[2016-08-03 18:50:36] Rado : yeah
[2016-08-03 18:50:52] Rado : they also replace fuck
[2016-08-03 18:50:57] Eastbay : its been won and lost afew times :) cloak, DRK, x20, ect.. i'll get it back
[2016-08-03 18:50:59] willybot : I just started trading. They "seem" ok.
[2016-08-03 18:51:18] jesperf : i've been here for more than a year
[2016-08-03 18:51:21] jesperf : it's a great place
[2016-08-03 18:51:28] willybot : Security appears A1
[2016-08-03 18:51:33] Eastbay : nice, good replacement for okcoin? that place was good
[2016-08-03 18:52:15] wotan : good place here i agree dont had any problems
[2016-08-03 18:52:39] BitMEX_Greg : willybot: Thanks, its unfortunate what has happened with Bitfinex. We pride ourselves on our security
[2016-08-03 18:52:59] Eastbay : thanks gents, ill move some btc from circle now and get started :)
[2016-08-03 18:53:09] Eastbay : LONG it is
[2016-08-03 18:53:44] justinlooking : hardcore
[2016-08-03 18:54:25] willybot : This place will be 1000 users consistent after 2 weeks
[2016-08-03 18:54:53] lockhedge : Eastbay: hurry up, longs receive 0.6473% interest in 65min ;)
[2016-08-03 19:02:22] meh : why is there such a sick spred w ltc?
[2016-08-03 19:02:27] meh : spread*
[2016-08-03 19:02:39] jesperf : because no one is filling the gap :)
[2016-08-03 19:03:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1210 @ 0.01759
[2016-08-03 19:04:26] Rado : lockhedge: that is one big funding rate
[2016-08-03 19:04:48] Rado : way more than the commissions you need to pay for buy and sell
[2016-08-03 19:07:59] rapidtrades : We don't have an office where everyone works, we are a decentralized company with employees all over the world. But we do have a bunch of people on the phone. Phil is taking this as best he can, he's focused on his work though, as we all our
[2016-08-03 19:09:19] justinlooking : rETC
[2016-08-03 19:10:37] rapidtrades : china nowhere near our prices
[2016-08-03 19:10:57] CaptainDean : 550 ?
[2016-08-03 19:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.004767
[2016-08-03 19:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.004765
[2016-08-03 19:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 39 @ 0.004760
[2016-08-03 19:12:20] CaptainDean : Rado: what market is gently cares ?
[2016-08-03 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.004693 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 664 @ 0.004673
[2016-08-03 19:12:45] Rado : it's the word f*ck
[2016-08-03 19:12:53] omicron : rapidtrades: you work for finex?
[2016-08-03 19:13:00] Rado : omicron: lol
[2016-08-03 19:13:04] Rado : no he doesn't
[2016-08-03 19:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 63 @ 0.004620
[2016-08-03 19:13:13] CaptainDean : thanks Rado FUCK
[2016-08-03 19:13:16] Rado : he barely works for himself I think
[2016-08-03 19:13:34] Rado : ETC nice dump
[2016-08-03 19:13:51] Rado : I had a short at 0.0062 yesterday
[2016-08-03 19:13:52] Rado : :(
[2016-08-03 19:13:53] CaptainDean : Yeah i wish I was trading ETC and ETH also
[2016-08-03 19:14:03] Rado : should have held a lot longer than a scalp
[2016-08-03 19:14:17] CaptainDean : Did you make profit ?
[2016-08-03 19:14:21] Rado : yes
[2016-08-03 19:14:26] CaptainDean : so have no regrets :P
[2016-08-03 19:14:32] jesperf : Rado: don't blame yourself, it's a psychotic market. that could have blown up to 0.01 and you would be poor :P
[2016-08-03 19:14:33] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-08-03 19:14:35] Rado : all my trades are profitable - ha ha
[2016-08-03 19:14:50] CaptainDean : Rado: :D
[2016-08-03 19:15:07] jesperf : the money you lose hopefully you gain in wisdom
[2016-08-03 19:15:29] jesperf : lol what joke
[2016-08-03 19:16:40] Rado : jesperf: for sure I've learned a lot about trading when I lost money in trading option in the stock market
[2016-08-03 19:16:42] jesperf : wise men start hedge funds and play with other people's money
[2016-08-03 19:16:48] Rado : I can tell you that is the best way to learn
[2016-08-03 19:16:52] Rado : when money is on the line
[2016-08-03 19:20:35] bernx : This color for nickname it's about how much you depo get?
[2016-08-03 19:21:02] jesperf : that's probably just random
[2016-08-03 19:24:33] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-03 19:25:06] jesperf : it would be funny though
[2016-08-03 19:25:26] herpinator : I wonder how large the hidden order is
[2016-08-03 19:25:33] jesperf : text size increases with your account value
[2016-08-03 19:28:45] CaptainDean : well mine is not use often
[2016-08-03 19:28:52] CaptainDean : my color**
[2016-08-03 19:29:01] CaptainDean : i'm out guys hockey time, laters
[2016-08-03 19:41:45] Eastbay : Wow someone went full retard on a long
[2016-08-03 19:43:15] ayy_lmao : 0.64% hell yes
[2016-08-03 19:43:15] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-03 19:43:52] rapidtrades : yeah it's been sweet
[2016-08-03 19:44:03] rapidtrades : doesn't make up for finex f*ck up but its nice
[2016-08-03 19:48:21] rapidtrades : woah what happened
[2016-08-03 19:49:14] jesperf : someone really wanted some bitcoins?
[2016-08-03 19:49:29] rapidtrades : no the dump
[2016-08-03 19:49:38] rapidtrades : and wtf is going on with mark
[2016-08-03 19:49:51] rapidtrades : 562>567>563
[2016-08-03 19:51:53] jesperf : there was huge spike on stamp
[2016-08-03 19:53:39] jesperf : weak orderbooks
[2016-08-03 19:53:52] jesperf : just 80 btc took it up to 572
[2016-08-03 19:55:33] rapidtrades : lots os spikes higher today
[2016-08-03 19:55:36] rapidtrades : had one on btc-e too
[2016-08-03 19:56:44] rapidtrades : we had an honorable mention on bloomberg
[2016-08-03 19:56:53] rapidtrades : its always about shit like this
[2016-08-03 19:57:00] rapidtrades : thanks bitfinex u shit
[2016-08-03 19:57:08] jesperf : of course
[2016-08-03 19:57:17] jesperf : wall street loves to see cryptomoney burn
[2016-08-03 19:58:08] jesperf : come on miners, i'm waiting on a block here.. get busy
[2016-08-03 19:58:40] jesperf : slacking off for 36 minutes is kind of a lot
[2016-08-03 20:01:28] CaptainDean : block 1 mins ago
[2016-08-03 20:02:18] jesperf : wohoo
[2016-08-03 20:03:02] rapidtrades : GIMME THE MONEY
[2016-08-03 20:03:11] CaptainDean : Hope your fees was on the target tho :P
[2016-08-03 20:03:20] jesperf : they were ;)
[2016-08-03 20:03:26] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-03 20:05:14] Skitrx : starting to look bearish
[2016-08-03 20:10:31] Skitrx : any mods here?
[2016-08-03 20:13:15] Skitrx : -0.15btc PNL :/ is that right?
[2016-08-03 20:16:03] bernx : Whats>
[2016-08-03 20:16:22] BitMEX_Greg : Skitrx: Hi whats up
[2016-08-03 20:18:57] Eastbay : why the hell is my raw "realised PNL" -.1btc on a 1btc trade? trade fees are 10% thats insane!?
[2016-08-03 20:19:03] Skitrx : BitMEX_Greg: Hey, I'm just curious over my account balance, I'm down 0.15btc and my position liq price went down by 9
[2016-08-03 20:19:53] BitMEX_Greg : Were you short? there was just a round of funding
[2016-08-03 20:20:07] Eastbay : yeah, please explain
[2016-08-03 20:20:12] BitMEX_Greg : Check your trade history: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 20:20:27] Eastbay : dafaq?
[2016-08-03 20:20:59] Eastbay : what does that mean? i lose .1btc?
[2016-08-03 20:21:09] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-08-03 20:21:19] BitMEX_Greg : It depends what position you are
[2016-08-03 20:21:33] BitMEX_Greg : In the recent round of funding longs got paid about 0.67% and shorts paid 0.67%
[2016-08-03 20:21:58] BitMEX_Greg : 0.647% *
[2016-08-03 20:22:14] Eastbay : so if i waited till now to open a short i would not have to pay?
[2016-08-03 20:22:18] Skitrx : jesus that's high
[2016-08-03 20:22:37] BitMEX_Greg : Yes there has been a lot of selling pressure given what has happened over the past day
[2016-08-03 20:22:46] jesperf : Eastbay: it happens every 8 hours
[2016-08-03 20:23:18] Eastbay : damn! so they just tax someone 10% 3 times a day
[2016-08-03 20:23:20] jesperf : check your right hand corner for important countdowns
[2016-08-03 20:23:21] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Correct, on the left side of the screen under Contract Details, it displays the funding rate and the time left to be charged
[2016-08-03 20:23:37] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: It wasn't 10%, and it is not a tax
[2016-08-03 20:23:57] BitMEX_Greg : The rate was 0.647% on your total positions
[2016-08-03 20:24:30] Eastbay : ok ok, got it, i gotta read up on this
[2016-08-03 20:24:36] jesperf : Eastbay: it's to keep the prices from deviating into premiums and discounts too much
[2016-08-03 20:24:38] lockhedge : Eastbay: congrats for trolling about going long and not knowing the FR
[2016-08-03 20:24:45] jesperf : :D
[2016-08-03 20:25:01] Eastbay : aint my first trollbox lol
[2016-08-03 20:25:52] jesperf : uh oh, we have ourselves an experienced troll here
[2016-08-03 20:26:02] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Yes we encourage all new users to the platform to read and understand the guides. Anything that is confusing please give us a shout here. If you want to put some test positions on too then try out the testnet
[2016-08-03 20:31:23] tiny_knob : hi everyone
[2016-08-03 20:31:40] tiny_knob : bitmex admin how do we get a special coin added here?
[2016-08-03 20:33:09] elmorte : What's the name of the coin?
[2016-08-03 20:37:21] Chimpindeed : Knobcoin?
[2016-08-03 20:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.004816
[2016-08-03 20:38:29] Skitrx : possible head and shoulders on huobi
[2016-08-03 20:39:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 560 @ 0.004745
[2016-08-03 20:39:25] jesperf : knees and toe knees and toe!
[2016-08-03 20:39:45] elmorte : jesperf: haha...you have a kid too?
[2016-08-03 20:39:47] BitMEX_Greg : tiny_knob: Depends on the underlying liquidity. If it has a liquid market, listed on a reputable exchange and a decent following then we may list it
[2016-08-03 20:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 460 @ 0.004678
[2016-08-03 20:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 800 @ 0.004719
[2016-08-03 20:40:28] jesperf : elmorte: no :) just being childish
[2016-08-03 20:40:36] elmorte : :)
[2016-08-03 20:42:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 970 @ 0.01782
[2016-08-03 20:43:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.01783
[2016-08-03 20:44:15] elmorte : Great, now if only finex would come back online with my ETH....
[2016-08-03 20:44:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 25 @ 0.01794
[2016-08-03 20:44:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.004562
[2016-08-03 20:45:41] Rizky : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vzapf/a_theory_on_how_the_bitfinex_hack_may_have/
[2016-08-03 20:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 180 @ 0.004503
[2016-08-03 20:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.004503
[2016-08-03 20:47:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 700 @ 0.004478
[2016-08-03 20:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004457
[2016-08-03 20:47:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.004451
[2016-08-03 20:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.004409
[2016-08-03 20:47:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 850 @ 0.004350
[2016-08-03 20:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 989 @ 0.004285
[2016-08-03 20:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.004549
[2016-08-03 20:59:05] Rado : so no news from Bitfinex yet?
[2016-08-03 20:59:37] Mangalica : none
[2016-08-03 20:59:53] Mangalica : zane said ~things are taking longer than expected
[2016-08-03 21:00:20] lockhedge : 4min ago: "I'm hoping we have something before night time in the states but im really not sure. I'm waiting to hear updates from the team on how it's coming along."
[2016-08-03 21:00:26] lockhedge : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-03 21:07:10] Rado : @lockhedge Thanks
[2016-08-03 21:10:26] lockhedge : Arthur quoted on website of dutch TV station http://www.rtlz.nl/tech/weer-een-hack-weer-een-crash-bitcoin-keldert-met-12-procent
[2016-08-03 21:10:42] ibtcx100 : wonder whats up with 0 volume on okcoin? updating infrastructure before turning on their volumizer bots
[2016-08-03 21:13:14] lockhedge : and on Le Monde in France, nice http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2016/08/03/la-valeur-du-bitcoin-plonge-a-la-suite-du-vol-de-53-millions-d-euros-sur-une-plate-forme-d-echange_4977942_4408996.html
[2016-08-03 21:13:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.01799
[2016-08-03 21:13:56] Eastbay : timber!
[2016-08-03 21:14:42] Eastbay : dang
[2016-08-03 21:14:52] Eastbay : finally breaking..
[2016-08-03 21:15:13] gg : china dumb
[2016-08-03 21:15:17] gg : *p
[2016-08-03 21:15:57] gg : anyone hear if they are tracking bfx hackers?
[2016-08-03 21:16:33] Rado : how do you track them?
[2016-08-03 21:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004469
[2016-08-03 21:16:58] Rado : you can see the transactions on the blockchain, but that's all
[2016-08-03 21:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.01817
[2016-08-03 21:18:14] gg : just wondering if they were able to follow the coins to see if they were in a certain wallet. Didnt that happen following stamp a year or so ago?
[2016-08-03 21:18:52] lockhedge : gg: they are split over a lot of addresses
[2016-08-03 21:23:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 30 @ 0.01827
[2016-08-03 21:23:44] justinlooking : rETC.
[2016-08-03 21:25:41] jesperf : eth is making a nice rethurn
[2016-08-03 22:21:15] jesperf : y'all sleepy
[2016-08-03 23:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 12 @ 0.01797
[2016-08-03 23:27:48] ayy_lmao : bitmex in denial again
[2016-08-03 23:45:07] Rado : ayy_lmao: what's up?
[2016-08-04 00:16:25] kingscrown : dang
[2016-08-04 00:36:47] rapidtrades : so finex now says they will settle all positions with prices back on aug2
[2016-08-04 00:36:53] rapidtrades : is that right
[2016-08-04 00:37:16] rapidtrades : $604 for bitcoin
[2016-08-04 00:38:57] rapidtrades : and they still haven't emailed anything
[2016-08-04 00:46:05] rapidtrades : and ofc they haven't relaunched today...they're finex why should anything go as planned
[2016-08-04 01:06:42] Rado : Settle as back to cash?
[2016-08-04 01:17:43] rapidtrades : same as if u closed them yourself at 604 i guess
[2016-08-04 01:19:36] babybaby : heh
[2016-08-04 01:20:32] rapidtrades : USD trading much higher then china
[2016-08-04 01:20:51] gonfalons : opened a long ~28x at $503 yesterday with 0.1477 bitcoin. closed it at ~540. why do I have only .1477 again?
[2016-08-04 01:21:00] babybaby : so whos biying ETC and EXCL on bittrex now with me? easy profits
[2016-08-04 01:21:49] rapidtrades : gonfalons: whatever...noone knows ur size
[2016-08-04 01:22:59] rapidtrades : gonna guess some profits got eaten by the funding fees
[2016-08-04 01:23:13] rapidtrades : they were over 1% past 2 days
[2016-08-04 01:23:48] gonfalons : i would think I make quite a lot at a high leverage when price goes up $30 very quickly no?
[2016-08-04 01:23:50] gonfalons : not break even
[2016-08-04 01:24:39] rapidtrades : what was ur size
[2016-08-04 01:26:16] gonfalons : looks like 900
[2016-08-04 01:26:35] rapidtrades : calc says 0.1226 XBT
[2016-08-04 01:27:03] gonfalons : sounds about right pretty sure i had 0.147 maybe some did not go thorugh
[2016-08-04 01:27:28] gonfalons : and leverage was maxed i think 28x
[2016-08-04 01:28:28] rapidtrades : idk says lev max is 50/1 but i don't trade that high
[2016-08-04 01:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 22 @ 564.95
[2016-08-04 01:45:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 565.24
[2016-08-04 01:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 24900 @ 567.44 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : All aboard the MOON train!
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 567.92
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 111500 @ 568.12 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-04 01:55:26] mbaril : 111500 ouch
[2016-08-04 02:07:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.004656
[2016-08-04 02:08:24] NukeLaloosh : XBTUSD mark price uses the Kaiko index, which right now is 50/50 okc and bitstamp, correct?
[2016-08-04 02:09:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 74 @ 569.67
[2016-08-04 02:09:18] rapidtrades : NukeLaloosh: think so
[2016-08-04 02:14:02] NukeLaloosh : thanks rapid. so why all the info on the contract specs page about mark pricing and fair basis?
[2016-08-04 02:18:07] NukeLaloosh : mark method is NOT FairPrice
[2016-08-04 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 700 @ 570.01
[2016-08-04 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 570.27 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-04 02:19:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 570.89
[2016-08-04 02:21:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 600 @ 572.02
[2016-08-04 02:21:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 572.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 02:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1385 @ 572.71
[2016-08-04 02:23:53] subjective : Short = burn in ashes, good luck trading everyone
[2016-08-04 02:23:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3269 @ 573.74
[2016-08-04 02:26:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21 @ 574.77
[2016-08-04 02:39:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 650 @ 567.14
[2016-08-04 02:42:37] BitMEX_Jinming : NukeLaloosh: `Mark Price = Spot Price(Kaiko) * (1+Funding Basis)`
[2016-08-04 02:43:13] BitMEX_Jinming : NukeLaloosh: You can find the calculation in `Position Marking` of `https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide`
[2016-08-04 02:43:59] NukeLaloosh : thanks Jinming
[2016-08-04 02:44:14] BitMEX_Jinming : You are welcome :)
[2016-08-04 02:59:09] zanza : https://steemit.com/bitfinex/@btcto100k/bitfinex-ceo-on-the-run
[2016-08-04 03:00:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 466 @ 0.01825
[2016-08-04 03:38:44] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: hey my realized pnl seems a little high? Can i private chat u
[2016-08-04 03:44:43] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: Sure, can you send the details to support@bitmex.com, we will look at it.
[2016-08-04 03:46:12] Skippy882 : You got it
[2016-08-04 03:50:59] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: email starts with malesevic
[2016-08-04 03:53:53] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: Yes, I got it. Looking at it now.
[2016-08-04 04:02:05] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: cool still a little new
[2016-08-04 04:02:40] jung1 : morning
[2016-08-04 04:10:23] NukeLaloosh : jung1: yo
[2016-08-04 04:13:52] jung1 : bitcoin should have hard fork after finex scam
[2016-08-04 04:14:36] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-08-04 04:19:29] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: I have replied your email.
[2016-08-04 04:22:02] NukeLaloosh : i'd like to hard fork my sept long
[2016-08-04 04:22:49] jung1 : get rekt or die tryin'
[2016-08-04 04:23:06] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4w0ghl/my_lendingbots_log_from_right_before_bitfinex/
[2016-08-04 04:25:32] CaptainDean : Holy fuck i missed some massive rekt
[2016-08-04 04:25:54] jung1 : yeah bitcoin is dead
[2016-08-04 04:25:57] jung1 : now its official
[2016-08-04 04:27:33] CaptainDean : I'm having a hard tmie trying to figure out why poeple fucking blame bitcoin for that
[2016-08-04 04:27:58] CaptainDean : It's finex problem, not bitcoin itself
[2016-08-04 04:28:12] jung1 : its easiest way
[2016-08-04 04:28:18] jung1 : same was with gox
[2016-08-04 04:28:38] jung1 : "Goxed", "finexed". The lesson is clear: Don't have BTC in exchanges whose names sound like they can be turned into synonyms for being tricked/confounded.
[2016-08-04 04:28:46] jung1 : bitmexed?
[2016-08-04 04:28:50] jung1 : : |
[2016-08-04 04:28:59] CaptainDean : i hope not :P
[2016-08-04 04:29:02] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-04 04:29:24] CaptainDean : so we gain another 10$ since I left for hockey :P
[2016-08-04 04:29:43] CaptainDean : we had some massive rekt @ 572
[2016-08-04 04:30:41] CaptainDean : i think it's the guy that made a spike to that 572$ earlier today. he paid a premium 10$ on the 562$ but i'm just guessing
[2016-08-04 04:40:38] jung1 : btw
[2016-08-04 04:40:39] jung1 : Hacker used bitfinex and bitgo keys
[2016-08-04 04:41:28] jung1 : coinbase, bitstamp, kraken, shapeshift use bitgo as well
[2016-08-04 05:54:38] Muhammed : how long do you guys think until we see btc at $650 usd again?
[2016-08-04 05:59:07] jung1 : you mean $666?
[2016-08-04 05:59:42] jung1 : well basicly if hacker will sell all that 120k btc
[2016-08-04 05:59:58] jung1 : he could clean buy orders on most of exchanges
[2016-08-04 06:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.004845
[2016-08-04 06:01:13] rapidtrades : coinbase 590
[2016-08-04 06:01:24] Muhammed : jung1: stuth
[2016-08-04 06:04:01] jung1 : sloth?
[2016-08-04 06:04:21] jung1 : http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/437/645/a9d.jpg
[2016-08-04 06:08:25] lockhedge : jung1: the hacker didn't directly use BitGo's key, BitGo just signed all tx signed by Bitfinex. that's how it supposed to work
[2016-08-04 06:09:12] jung1 : yeah but bitgo should check that $70mln withrawal
[2016-08-04 06:15:01] lockhedge : jung1: not their job to manually review transactions.
[2016-08-04 06:33:34] BitMEX_Wally : BitGo lets you configure limits and they they will only counter-sign within these limits
[2016-08-04 06:34:07] BitMEX_Wally : Will be interesting to see if Bitfinex had such limits configured, and if so, how they were breached
[2016-08-04 06:35:10] sharpie0101 : how get bigo key?
[2016-08-04 06:35:35] sharpie0101 : should just follow aes standards
[2016-08-04 06:35:56] BitMEX_Wally : Bitfinex had an API key with BitGo which they used to instruct BitGo to sign transactions
[2016-08-04 06:36:26] BitMEX_Wally : BitGo's private keys were not compromised says BitGo
[2016-08-04 06:40:58] micmix : I would assume that BitGo had at least basic checks for those 'sign tx' API calls and could detect unusual activity like large number of calls per minute
[2016-08-04 06:45:07] jung1 : yeah they should saw it
[2016-08-04 06:45:10] lockhedge : their main product BitGo Instant requires a fixed set of rules. they only do not co-sign transactions if they detect double spending or limits set by the user were hit
[2016-08-04 06:46:21] jung1 : so I bet that more than 1mln bitcoin was stolen totally
[2016-08-04 06:46:30] BitMEX_Wally : So the question is, what limits were set by the user?
[2016-08-04 06:48:21] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: seems like Bitfinex had only local limits and required BitGo to sign all tx
[2016-08-04 06:48:30] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah :(
[2016-08-04 06:48:36] micmix : are those limits per each BitGo wallet, meaning per individual wallets of each finex customer?
[2016-08-04 06:50:00] micmix : bc there was no one finex wallet, every finex customer has its own
[2016-08-04 06:52:20] lockhedge : you can set per-transaction spending limits and daily limits per wallet
[2016-08-04 06:53:41] micmix : let say I manage 10 wallets, can I set a combined limit for all 10 wallets?
[2016-08-04 06:54:09] lockhedge : every Bitfinex customer should have had the possibility to use the "Freeze wallet" option, but it's worthless if Bitfinex instructs to co-sign them without any grace period
[2016-08-04 06:57:04] lockhedge : micmix: i can only set per wallet limits
[2016-08-04 07:04:09] micmix : well, per-wallet limit is useless in case of a hack if the hacker can sign txs from thousands of wallets while staying within the limits set for each wallet. they need some kind of aggregate limits per API key or something like that
[2016-08-04 07:04:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.004678
[2016-08-04 07:07:35] micmix : 'instruct BitGo to sign txs' instead 'sign txs' to be exact
[2016-08-04 07:07:44] micmix : *instead of