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[2016-08-03 13:30:42] Rado : mike1000: lost some profits on the choppy market over the last 2-3 weeks
[2016-08-03 13:30:48] Rado : making them back now
[2016-08-03 13:31:10] Rado : bots trade great when we have trend
[2016-08-03 13:31:21] Rado : need to create another bot for choppy market :-)
[2016-08-03 13:31:35] PatioCrasher : http://fuckethereum.com/ <-- You guys seen this shit? lol
[2016-08-03 13:31:44] mike1000 : Rado: I'm interested too, check your Skype btw
[2016-08-03 13:32:02] Rado : mike1000: I don't use Skype
[2016-08-03 13:32:59] mike1000 : Rado: oh, I found someone there, thought it was you ) any other messenger?
[2016-08-03 13:33:17] Rado : twitter?
[2016-08-03 13:34:00] mike1000 : Rado: sure
[2016-08-03 13:34:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 320 @ 0.005263
[2016-08-03 13:43:14] Rado : mike1000: https://twitter.com/hubavka
[2016-08-03 13:43:36] mike1000 : Rado: thx, ll write you soom
[2016-08-03 13:44:03] mike1000 : Just need to remember my twitter passwd :)
[2016-08-03 13:46:45] Airmike : Hi guys. could you tell me where I can find data about trading volume on BitMex ?
[2016-08-03 13:47:58] BitMEX_Sam : Airmike: https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Stats/Stats_history
[2016-08-03 13:49:10] Rado : Airmike: simple 24h volumes by coinmarketcap as well https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitmex/
[2016-08-03 13:50:04] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: are these numbers accurate?
[2016-08-03 13:50:06] Airmike : thank you
[2016-08-03 13:50:35] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Not exactly, http://exchangewar.info/ is generally more accurate
[2016-08-03 13:50:47] Rado : thanks
[2016-08-03 14:01:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2563 @ 0.005552
[2016-08-03 14:01:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.005646
[2016-08-03 14:03:34] CaptainDean : good morning
[2016-08-03 14:03:49] CaptainDean : looks like we are on the road to 500$
[2016-08-03 14:03:57] CaptainDean : 600$*
[2016-08-03 14:04:04] dasdfasdf : that sounds better
[2016-08-03 14:07:07] Rado : $600 is easy
[2016-08-03 14:07:13] Rado : the question is what happens after that
[2016-08-03 14:07:54] CaptainDean : we go to 620 and we go down again
[2016-08-03 14:08:01] CaptainDean : i really don't know :P
[2016-08-03 14:08:09] Rado : lol
[2016-08-03 14:08:14] Rado : you and everyone else
[2016-08-03 14:08:15] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-03 14:08:26] Rado : I think long term this is a very good place to enter
[2016-08-03 14:08:40] jesperf : the best piece of advice is to flip a coin
[2016-08-03 14:08:46] Rado : in a year people will beat themself up for not buying at $500
[2016-08-03 14:08:58] CaptainDean : we are deu for a correction, we are just going up since the crash
[2016-08-03 14:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 555.34
[2016-08-03 14:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 720 @ 555.57
[2016-08-03 14:16:01] ersagun : Guys, do different positions get merged under one single position in here? As it looks like that but then what determines the liquidation price as it was different on my 3 positions?
[2016-08-03 14:16:43] rapidtrades : yeah everything is merged if under same contract
[2016-08-03 14:18:05] bitbucks : how is the xbt mark being calculated without bitfinex
[2016-08-03 14:18:07] ersagun : And the current liquidation price is a weighted average of all positions combined?
[2016-08-03 14:18:37] aethlios : bitbucks: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-03 14:18:47] bitbucks : thanks
[2016-08-03 14:18:52] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-08-03 14:18:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2600 @ 552.22
[2016-08-03 14:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 130 @ 551.19
[2016-08-03 14:19:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19000 @ 550.38
[2016-08-03 14:20:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, you always have a single position ersagun
[2016-08-03 14:20:36] BitMEX_Sam : If you sell 10, then sell 10, you've sold 20, you don't have two independent positions of -10
[2016-08-03 14:20:50] dorothy490 : what is column "exec price" in Fills?
[2016-08-03 14:21:17] BitMEX_Sam : Execution Price
[2016-08-03 14:22:24] rapidtrades : dam we ALMOST filled sept liq
[2016-08-03 14:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 549.76
[2016-08-03 14:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 630 @ 549.67
[2016-08-03 14:24:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6420 @ 547.11
[2016-08-03 14:24:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 547.37
[2016-08-03 14:24:48] ersagun : BitMEX_Sam: thanks. And the current liquidation price is a weighted average, right? So that I can add some more positions in order to keep a position open which is nearing it's liquidation price?
[2016-08-03 14:25:09] BitMEX_Sam : Generally you'd want to reduce to avoid getting liquidated, not increase
[2016-08-03 14:25:19] BitMEX_Sam : So yes, if you're short, buy some contracts, or vice-versa, if you want to stave off liquidation
[2016-08-03 14:25:29] BitMEX_Sam : Alternatively, add funds or reduce leverage via the slider on the left
[2016-08-03 14:25:44] ersagun : Yeah asking theoretically to understand the mechanic. Got it
[2016-08-03 14:27:52] dorothy490 : why on Liqudation Exec price actually differs from Liquidation price?
[2016-08-03 14:28:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9090 @ 542.03
[2016-08-03 14:28:24] BitMEX_Sam : Because liquidations are executed at your bankruptcy price, not at your liquidation price
[2016-08-03 14:28:33] BitMEX_Sam : The system needs a small amount of buffer with which to sell the position
[2016-08-03 14:28:45] BitMEX_Sam : We're working to display more information on those liquidations to make it clearer.
[2016-08-03 14:34:46] rapidtrades : this finex shit will drag on for days
[2016-08-03 14:34:53] rapidtrades : can't see it helping sentiment
[2016-08-03 14:35:02] elmorte : for sure
[2016-08-03 14:36:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 546.66
[2016-08-03 14:36:28] rapidtrades : how many wallets got drained
[2016-08-03 14:36:39] rapidtrades : did they go for big ones or what
[2016-08-03 14:38:34] Rado : suspension i skilling me rapidtrades
[2016-08-03 14:38:46] rapidtrades : DOES NOONE DO RESEARCH HERE
[2016-08-03 14:38:50] Rado : need to know if my account is gone or not
[2016-08-03 14:39:36] rapidtrades : guess we'll know today...whenever they allow logins
[2016-08-03 14:39:45] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: have you guys conceder min order amount
[2016-08-03 14:39:57] elmorte : What makes you think it's today? @rapidtrades
[2016-08-03 14:39:59] Rado : for example on ETC7D should be 100 contarcts
[2016-08-03 14:40:01] rapidtrades : u got a 5-10% chance for total annihilation
[2016-08-03 14:40:08] Rado : I hate the 3 contracts orders
[2016-08-03 14:40:11] rapidtrades : elmorte: zaneticket
[2016-08-03 14:40:15] dasdfasdf : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-03 14:40:23] elmorte : Cool
[2016-08-03 14:40:38] Rado : rapidtrades: how did you calculate the 5-10%
[2016-08-03 14:40:50] rapidtrades : that's how much coins they lost
[2016-08-03 14:41:21] rapidtrades : but if u affected you'll lose everything cos they're not spreading it around
[2016-08-03 14:41:35] rapidtrades : that's what I gather from zane comments anyway
[2016-08-03 14:41:59] dasdfasdf : How could you justify that
[2016-08-03 14:42:13] rapidtrades : 'segregated wallets'
[2016-08-03 14:42:16] rapidtrades : LOL
[2016-08-03 14:42:30] elmorte : SOL
[2016-08-03 14:42:37] rapidtrades : basically
[2016-08-03 14:43:40] elmorte : Ok, so at least they'll allow read access today...that's a good thing. I just need a $65 jump in bitcoin to get out of my long
[2016-08-03 14:43:56] Rado : rapidtrades: do you know if exchange wallets were affected?
[2016-08-03 14:44:03] Rado : looks like funding wallets were
[2016-08-03 14:44:06] Rado : as well as margin
[2016-08-03 14:44:14] rapidtrades : they all are affected
[2016-08-03 14:44:15] Rado : not sure if exchange wallets were as well
[2016-08-03 14:44:26] rapidtrades : all btc
[2016-08-03 14:44:33] Rado : so no difference
[2016-08-03 14:44:42] Rado : they keep them in the same palce?
[2016-08-03 14:44:45] Rado : place
[2016-08-03 14:45:24] rapidtrades : your bitgo wallet is HD and contains several addresses including those 3 u see
[2016-08-03 14:46:41] Rado : k
[2016-08-03 14:51:29] rapidtrades : they're not even giving a timeline...just 'today UTC'
[2016-08-03 14:51:47] rapidtrades : and they subtly started wording it today instead of daytime UTC
[2016-08-03 14:52:02] rapidtrades : so it may not even happen today given finex record
[2016-08-03 14:52:45] elmorte : today UTC is pretty definitive. Before midnight UTC
[2016-08-03 14:53:02] elmorte : if he didn't specify the timezone, it'd be more suss
[2016-08-03 14:53:46] rapidtrades : b4 it was daytime not today
[2016-08-03 15:04:57] lockhedge : rapidtrades: they will probably spend several $100k for legal advice now, then they will announce something
[2016-08-03 15:06:22] elmorte : Ah, I didn't see the earlier posts
[2016-08-03 15:18:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 547.66
[2016-08-03 15:18:52] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-08-03 15:24:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5500 @ 550.74
[2016-08-03 15:39:03] sleepywhale : How does a trader set a stop loss on an order? Is liquidation price the only "stop loss" that is available? Say I buy a 1000 contracts now, but I don't want to loose more than %3 Ideally I'd set my stop at $575
[2016-08-03 15:54:59] BitMEX_Sam : sleepywhale: See the Stop Market order type
[2016-08-03 16:03:32] BitMEX_Greg : sleepywhale: https://www.bitmex.com/app/stopLimitOrder
[2016-08-03 16:07:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.01665
[2016-08-03 16:22:25] sleepywhale : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks, I see you have to use them in conjunction with other order types. So if I wanted to go long at $500 I'd have to set a limit order and then to create a stop loss I have to create a stop limit at the value I'd like to exit my position at and the price I'd like that order to execute at once the price drops below the trigger?
[2016-08-03 16:28:16] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-08-03 16:30:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 555.28
[2016-08-03 16:32:38] rapidtrades : china much lower
[2016-08-03 16:32:47] rapidtrades : pump is BS
[2016-08-03 16:35:26] BitMEX_Greg : sleepywhale: So do you want to put a stop order on an existing position or a new position? If you want an existing position you can look at `Stop Market` or `Trailing Stop`. If you want to place a new order with a stop then yes use the `Stop Limit` order
[2016-08-03 16:42:15] rapidtrades : so if ur coins are there cash out right away or what
[2016-08-03 16:42:23] rapidtrades : what's ur play
[2016-08-03 16:44:04] miramm1115 : mine are gone
[2016-08-03 16:45:45] ersagun : I doubt they will allow withdraws in few days
[2016-08-03 17:03:06] j8 : rapidtrades: if they do open trading there will be a huge shortage of coins on the exchange.. people might be scrambling to buy if they are able to withdraw
[2016-08-03 17:08:45] j8 : it's gonna be messy one way or another
[2016-08-03 17:11:45] rullwull : as i understood many longers are affected who bought stolen coins with leverage
[2016-08-03 17:15:25] j8 : yeah, well many of them would be way past bankrupt if their stolen coins were marked to $0
[2016-08-03 17:15:44] esuvari : BitMEX_Greg: my position seems to be closed on its own but neither recent trades, nor the price chart shows it
[2016-08-03 17:16:15] esuvari : it's odd because it was sold waaaay lower then the price.. how can this happen?
[2016-08-03 17:16:43] esuvari : etc7d price never went to 5065 but in my fills history, that's what I see.
[2016-08-03 17:17:04] rullwull : the hack has happened yesterday around 12UTC, acc with btc or btc longs are at that time are under risk, shorts are fine
[2016-08-03 17:17:32] rullwull : shorts could be opened without btc)
[2016-08-03 17:20:26] j8 : in theory, who knows how they'll actually handle it
[2016-08-03 17:22:50] brasska : even if they wont be handle it by themselves i believe there wont be a problem to find an external help, its an attractive bussines
[2016-08-03 17:23:48] wurstgelee : esuvari: which position?
[2016-08-03 17:24:09] wurstgelee : oh nvm
[2016-08-03 17:24:11] justinlooking : esuvari: what time?
[2016-08-03 17:24:31] wurstgelee : justinlooking: he doesnt know i guess
[2016-08-03 17:24:44] wurstgelee : " but neither recent trades, nor the price chart shows it"
[2016-08-03 17:24:53] justinlooking : it shows in fills
[2016-08-03 17:25:00] wurstgelee : it should
[2016-08-03 17:25:01] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-08-03 17:30:33] brasska : what is going with jpy mark price?
[2016-08-03 17:33:06] CaptainDean : BTC-E just spike at 580
[2016-08-03 17:49:43] BitMEX_Greg : esuvari: It shows your bankruptcy price, not the price at which it was liquidated at
[2016-08-03 17:56:39] mike1000 : BitMEX_Greg: how to get available balance (green) with API? Not wallet balance
[2016-08-03 17:57:35] mike1000 : Subtract pending profits?
[2016-08-03 17:58:27] BitMEX_Sam : mike1000: That's `margin.marginBalance`
[2016-08-03 18:06:13] mike1000 : BitMEX_Sam: that's identical to wallet balance, what I look for is `margin.availableMargin`.Thanks
[2016-08-03 18:08:14] BitMEX_Greg : mike1000: Try `margin.excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:08:32] BitMEX_Greg : This is for "Available Balance"
[2016-08-03 18:08:47] mike1000 : Same as `availableMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:10:21] mike1000 : Or `excessMargin` is `availableMargin` minus open positions?
[2016-08-03 18:14:33] lockhedge : seems like `availableMargin`is the same as `excessMargin`and `withdrawableMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:14:38] BitMEX_Sam : The "Available Balance" shown at the top next to the announcements horn is `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:15:15] BitMEX_Sam : `withdrawableMargin` can be less than `excessMargin` if you have unrealised profit (profit subject to DPE, before rebalance)
[2016-08-03 18:18:05] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: i have unrealised and withheld profit but `withdrawableMargin`is the same as `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:21:55] bernx : BitMEX_Sam: where i can check my trade history? like symmary PNL
[2016-08-03 18:30:28] BitMEX_Greg : mike1000: `availableMargin` is deprecated and is the same as `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:30:51] BitMEX_Greg : bernx: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 18:31:03] BitMEX_Greg : You can download a .csv there to work out your PnL
[2016-08-03 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 5700 @ 56885.0
[2016-08-03 18:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.005223
[2016-08-03 18:32:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 3000 @ 57083.0
[2016-08-03 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 561.29 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 561.49
[2016-08-03 18:41:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12000 @ 562.87
[2016-08-03 18:42:49] blacktuesday : is it possible to log in on iOS with clef app?
[2016-08-03 18:43:11] blacktuesday : only seem to be able to use clef login on laptop.
[2016-08-03 18:43:18] Rado : you can
[2016-08-03 18:43:23] Rado : I use it on my iPhone
[2016-08-03 18:43:38] blacktuesday : I get an error when login with clef on iphone
[2016-08-03 18:44:04] Rado : what kind of error?
[2016-08-03 18:44:13] Rado : I get a pop up that says open Clef
[2016-08-03 18:44:23] Rado : then I confirm and it logs me in
[2016-08-03 18:45:04] blacktuesday : yeah I get that pop up, i confirm on the app but then it returns to bitmex login page with: "error during clef login: Invalid CSRF token" please retry...
[2016-08-03 18:45:18] blacktuesday : upon retry, same issue repeats
[2016-08-03 18:45:39] Rado : are you logged in on your Clef app?
[2016-08-03 18:45:47] blacktuesday : lyes
[2016-08-03 18:45:49] blacktuesday : yes
[2016-08-03 18:46:02] Rado : have you changed devices?
[2016-08-03 18:46:06] blacktuesday : nope
[2016-08-03 18:46:19] Rado : you can try disabling Clef and then enabling it again
[2016-08-03 18:46:29] Rado : it will ask you to set it up again I think
[2016-08-03 18:46:40] Rado : don't know more about this
[2016-08-03 18:46:54] blacktuesday : hmm.. ok. does it allow multiple logins like can i be login with clef both on my laptop and phone at same time?
[2016-08-03 18:46:57] Rado : you can also email BitMEX and/or Clef support
[2016-08-03 18:47:06] blacktuesday : thanks rado no worries. that's the next step
[2016-08-03 18:47:16] Rado : I am logged in on both yes
[2016-08-03 18:47:45] omicron : blacktuesday: i get the error with csrf token and i dont use clef
[2016-08-03 18:48:49] Eastbay : hi, new user here, waiting to deposit and start trading, you guys having any issues?
[2016-08-03 18:49:37] Eastbay : major issues, i mean, that are effecting say trading/leverage/deposits/withdraws ect..
[2016-08-03 18:49:38] Rado : Eastbay: the best exchange from my perspective
[2016-08-03 18:50:06] Eastbay : yeah, im starting to get back into leverage trading after losing it all on x20 okcoin :)
[2016-08-03 18:50:09] Eastbay : fun stuff
[2016-08-03 18:50:21] Rado : sorry to hear
[2016-08-03 18:50:29] Eastbay : "woodchipper" lool
[2016-08-03 18:50:36] Rado : yeah
[2016-08-03 18:50:52] Rado : they also replace fuck
[2016-08-03 18:50:57] Eastbay : its been won and lost afew times :) cloak, DRK, x20, ect.. i'll get it back
[2016-08-03 18:50:59] willybot : I just started trading. They "seem" ok.
[2016-08-03 18:51:18] jesperf : i've been here for more than a year
[2016-08-03 18:51:21] jesperf : it's a great place
[2016-08-03 18:51:28] willybot : Security appears A1
[2016-08-03 18:51:33] Eastbay : nice, good replacement for okcoin? that place was good
[2016-08-03 18:52:15] wotan : good place here i agree dont had any problems
[2016-08-03 18:52:39] BitMEX_Greg : willybot: Thanks, its unfortunate what has happened with Bitfinex. We pride ourselves on our security
[2016-08-03 18:52:59] Eastbay : thanks gents, ill move some btc from circle now and get started :)
[2016-08-03 18:53:09] Eastbay : LONG it is
[2016-08-03 18:53:44] justinlooking : hardcore
[2016-08-03 18:54:25] willybot : This place will be 1000 users consistent after 2 weeks
[2016-08-03 18:54:53] lockhedge : Eastbay: hurry up, longs receive 0.6473% interest in 65min ;)
[2016-08-03 19:02:22] meh : why is there such a sick spred w ltc?
[2016-08-03 19:02:27] meh : spread*
[2016-08-03 19:02:39] jesperf : because no one is filling the gap :)
[2016-08-03 19:03:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1210 @ 0.01759
[2016-08-03 19:04:26] Rado : lockhedge: that is one big funding rate
[2016-08-03 19:04:48] Rado : way more than the commissions you need to pay for buy and sell
[2016-08-03 19:07:59] rapidtrades : We don't have an office where everyone works, we are a decentralized company with employees all over the world. But we do have a bunch of people on the phone. Phil is taking this as best he can, he's focused on his work though, as we all our
[2016-08-03 19:09:19] justinlooking : rETC
[2016-08-03 19:10:37] rapidtrades : china nowhere near our prices
[2016-08-03 19:10:57] CaptainDean : 550 ?
[2016-08-03 19:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.004767
[2016-08-03 19:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.004765
[2016-08-03 19:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 39 @ 0.004760
[2016-08-03 19:12:20] CaptainDean : Rado: what market is gently cares ?
[2016-08-03 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.004693 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 664 @ 0.004673
[2016-08-03 19:12:45] Rado : it's the word f*ck
[2016-08-03 19:12:53] omicron : rapidtrades: you work for finex?
[2016-08-03 19:13:00] Rado : omicron: lol
[2016-08-03 19:13:04] Rado : no he doesn't
[2016-08-03 19:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 63 @ 0.004620
[2016-08-03 19:13:13] CaptainDean : thanks Rado FUCK
[2016-08-03 19:13:16] Rado : he barely works for himself I think
[2016-08-03 19:13:34] Rado : ETC nice dump
[2016-08-03 19:13:51] Rado : I had a short at 0.0062 yesterday
[2016-08-03 19:13:52] Rado : :(
[2016-08-03 19:13:53] CaptainDean : Yeah i wish I was trading ETC and ETH also
[2016-08-03 19:14:03] Rado : should have held a lot longer than a scalp
[2016-08-03 19:14:17] CaptainDean : Did you make profit ?
[2016-08-03 19:14:21] Rado : yes
[2016-08-03 19:14:26] CaptainDean : so have no regrets :P
[2016-08-03 19:14:32] jesperf : Rado: don't blame yourself, it's a psychotic market. that could have blown up to 0.01 and you would be poor :P
[2016-08-03 19:14:33] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-08-03 19:14:35] Rado : all my trades are profitable - ha ha
[2016-08-03 19:14:50] CaptainDean : Rado: :D
[2016-08-03 19:15:07] jesperf : the money you lose hopefully you gain in wisdom
[2016-08-03 19:15:29] jesperf : lol what joke
[2016-08-03 19:16:40] Rado : jesperf: for sure I've learned a lot about trading when I lost money in trading option in the stock market
[2016-08-03 19:16:42] jesperf : wise men start hedge funds and play with other people's money
[2016-08-03 19:16:48] Rado : I can tell you that is the best way to learn
[2016-08-03 19:16:52] Rado : when money is on the line
[2016-08-03 19:20:35] bernx : This color for nickname it's about how much you depo get?
[2016-08-03 19:21:02] jesperf : that's probably just random
[2016-08-03 19:24:33] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-03 19:25:06] jesperf : it would be funny though
[2016-08-03 19:25:26] herpinator : I wonder how large the hidden order is
[2016-08-03 19:25:33] jesperf : text size increases with your account value
[2016-08-03 19:28:45] CaptainDean : well mine is not use often
[2016-08-03 19:28:52] CaptainDean : my color**
[2016-08-03 19:29:01] CaptainDean : i'm out guys hockey time, laters
[2016-08-03 19:41:45] Eastbay : Wow someone went full retard on a long
[2016-08-03 19:43:15] ayy_lmao : 0.64% hell yes
[2016-08-03 19:43:15] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-03 19:43:52] rapidtrades : yeah it's been sweet
[2016-08-03 19:44:03] rapidtrades : doesn't make up for finex f*ck up but its nice
[2016-08-03 19:48:21] rapidtrades : woah what happened
[2016-08-03 19:49:14] jesperf : someone really wanted some bitcoins?
[2016-08-03 19:49:29] rapidtrades : no the dump
[2016-08-03 19:49:38] rapidtrades : and wtf is going on with mark
[2016-08-03 19:49:51] rapidtrades : 562>567>563
[2016-08-03 19:51:53] jesperf : there was huge spike on stamp
[2016-08-03 19:53:39] jesperf : weak orderbooks
[2016-08-03 19:53:52] jesperf : just 80 btc took it up to 572
[2016-08-03 19:55:33] rapidtrades : lots os spikes higher today
[2016-08-03 19:55:36] rapidtrades : had one on btc-e too
[2016-08-03 19:56:44] rapidtrades : we had an honorable mention on bloomberg
[2016-08-03 19:56:53] rapidtrades : its always about shit like this
[2016-08-03 19:57:00] rapidtrades : thanks bitfinex u shit
[2016-08-03 19:57:08] jesperf : of course
[2016-08-03 19:57:17] jesperf : wall street loves to see cryptomoney burn
[2016-08-03 19:58:08] jesperf : come on miners, i'm waiting on a block here.. get busy
[2016-08-03 19:58:40] jesperf : slacking off for 36 minutes is kind of a lot
[2016-08-03 20:01:28] CaptainDean : block 1 mins ago
[2016-08-03 20:02:18] jesperf : wohoo
[2016-08-03 20:03:02] rapidtrades : GIMME THE MONEY
[2016-08-03 20:03:11] CaptainDean : Hope your fees was on the target tho :P
[2016-08-03 20:03:20] jesperf : they were ;)
[2016-08-03 20:03:26] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-03 20:05:14] Skitrx : starting to look bearish
[2016-08-03 20:10:31] Skitrx : any mods here?
[2016-08-03 20:13:15] Skitrx : -0.15btc PNL :/ is that right?
[2016-08-03 20:16:03] bernx : Whats>
[2016-08-03 20:16:22] BitMEX_Greg : Skitrx: Hi whats up
[2016-08-03 20:18:57] Eastbay : why the hell is my raw "realised PNL" -.1btc on a 1btc trade? trade fees are 10% thats insane!?
[2016-08-03 20:19:03] Skitrx : BitMEX_Greg: Hey, I'm just curious over my account balance, I'm down 0.15btc and my position liq price went down by 9
[2016-08-03 20:19:53] BitMEX_Greg : Were you short? there was just a round of funding
[2016-08-03 20:20:07] Eastbay : yeah, please explain
[2016-08-03 20:20:12] BitMEX_Greg : Check your trade history: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 20:20:27] Eastbay : dafaq?
[2016-08-03 20:20:59] Eastbay : what does that mean? i lose .1btc?
[2016-08-03 20:21:09] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-08-03 20:21:19] BitMEX_Greg : It depends what position you are
[2016-08-03 20:21:33] BitMEX_Greg : In the recent round of funding longs got paid about 0.67% and shorts paid 0.67%
[2016-08-03 20:21:58] BitMEX_Greg : 0.647% *
[2016-08-03 20:22:14] Eastbay : so if i waited till now to open a short i would not have to pay?
[2016-08-03 20:22:18] Skitrx : jesus that's high
[2016-08-03 20:22:37] BitMEX_Greg : Yes there has been a lot of selling pressure given what has happened over the past day
[2016-08-03 20:22:46] jesperf : Eastbay: it happens every 8 hours
[2016-08-03 20:23:18] Eastbay : damn! so they just tax someone 10% 3 times a day
[2016-08-03 20:23:20] jesperf : check your right hand corner for important countdowns
[2016-08-03 20:23:21] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Correct, on the left side of the screen under Contract Details, it displays the funding rate and the time left to be charged
[2016-08-03 20:23:37] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: It wasn't 10%, and it is not a tax
[2016-08-03 20:23:57] BitMEX_Greg : The rate was 0.647% on your total positions
[2016-08-03 20:24:30] Eastbay : ok ok, got it, i gotta read up on this
[2016-08-03 20:24:36] jesperf : Eastbay: it's to keep the prices from deviating into premiums and discounts too much
[2016-08-03 20:24:38] lockhedge : Eastbay: congrats for trolling about going long and not knowing the FR
[2016-08-03 20:24:45] jesperf : :D
[2016-08-03 20:25:01] Eastbay : aint my first trollbox lol
[2016-08-03 20:25:52] jesperf : uh oh, we have ourselves an experienced troll here
[2016-08-03 20:26:02] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Yes we encourage all new users to the platform to read and understand the guides. Anything that is confusing please give us a shout here. If you want to put some test positions on too then try out the testnet
[2016-08-03 20:31:23] tiny_knob : hi everyone
[2016-08-03 20:31:40] tiny_knob : bitmex admin how do we get a special coin added here?
[2016-08-03 20:33:09] elmorte : What's the name of the coin?
[2016-08-03 20:37:21] Chimpindeed : Knobcoin?
[2016-08-03 20:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.004816
[2016-08-03 20:38:29] Skitrx : possible head and shoulders on huobi
[2016-08-03 20:39:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 560 @ 0.004745
[2016-08-03 20:39:25] jesperf : knees and toe knees and toe!
[2016-08-03 20:39:45] elmorte : jesperf: haha...you have a kid too?
[2016-08-03 20:39:47] BitMEX_Greg : tiny_knob: Depends on the underlying liquidity. If it has a liquid market, listed on a reputable exchange and a decent following then we may list it
[2016-08-03 20:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 460 @ 0.004678
[2016-08-03 20:40:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 800 @ 0.004719
[2016-08-03 20:40:28] jesperf : elmorte: no :) just being childish
[2016-08-03 20:40:36] elmorte : :)
[2016-08-03 20:42:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 970 @ 0.01782
[2016-08-03 20:43:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.01783
[2016-08-03 20:44:15] elmorte : Great, now if only finex would come back online with my ETH....
[2016-08-03 20:44:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 25 @ 0.01794
[2016-08-03 20:44:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5 @ 0.004562
[2016-08-03 20:45:41] Rizky : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vzapf/a_theory_on_how_the_bitfinex_hack_may_have/
[2016-08-03 20:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 180 @ 0.004503
[2016-08-03 20:46:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.004503
[2016-08-03 20:47:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 700 @ 0.004478
[2016-08-03 20:47:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004457
[2016-08-03 20:47:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 400 @ 0.004451
[2016-08-03 20:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 250 @ 0.004409
[2016-08-03 20:47:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 850 @ 0.004350
[2016-08-03 20:48:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 989 @ 0.004285
[2016-08-03 20:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.004549
[2016-08-03 20:59:05] Rado : so no news from Bitfinex yet?
[2016-08-03 20:59:37] Mangalica : none
[2016-08-03 20:59:53] Mangalica : zane said ~things are taking longer than expected
[2016-08-03 21:00:20] lockhedge : 4min ago: "I'm hoping we have something before night time in the states but im really not sure. I'm waiting to hear updates from the team on how it's coming along."
[2016-08-03 21:00:26] lockhedge : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-03 21:07:10] Rado : @lockhedge Thanks
[2016-08-03 21:10:26] lockhedge : Arthur quoted on website of dutch TV station http://www.rtlz.nl/tech/weer-een-hack-weer-een-crash-bitcoin-keldert-met-12-procent
[2016-08-03 21:10:42] ibtcx100 : wonder whats up with 0 volume on okcoin? updating infrastructure before turning on their volumizer bots
[2016-08-03 21:13:14] lockhedge : and on Le Monde in France, nice http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2016/08/03/la-valeur-du-bitcoin-plonge-a-la-suite-du-vol-de-53-millions-d-euros-sur-une-plate-forme-d-echange_4977942_4408996.html
[2016-08-03 21:13:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 40 @ 0.01799
[2016-08-03 21:13:56] Eastbay : timber!
[2016-08-03 21:14:42] Eastbay : dang
[2016-08-03 21:14:52] Eastbay : finally breaking..
[2016-08-03 21:15:13] gg : china dumb
[2016-08-03 21:15:17] gg : *p
[2016-08-03 21:15:57] gg : anyone hear if they are tracking bfx hackers?
[2016-08-03 21:16:33] Rado : how do you track them?
[2016-08-03 21:16:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004469
[2016-08-03 21:16:58] Rado : you can see the transactions on the blockchain, but that's all
[2016-08-03 21:17:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 50 @ 0.01817
[2016-08-03 21:18:14] gg : just wondering if they were able to follow the coins to see if they were in a certain wallet. Didnt that happen following stamp a year or so ago?
[2016-08-03 21:18:52] lockhedge : gg: they are split over a lot of addresses
[2016-08-03 21:23:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 30 @ 0.01827
[2016-08-03 21:23:44] justinlooking : rETC.
[2016-08-03 21:25:41] jesperf : eth is making a nice rethurn
[2016-08-03 22:21:15] jesperf : y'all sleepy
[2016-08-03 23:10:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 12 @ 0.01797
[2016-08-03 23:27:48] ayy_lmao : bitmex in denial again
[2016-08-03 23:45:07] Rado : ayy_lmao: what's up?
[2016-08-04 00:16:25] kingscrown : dang
[2016-08-04 00:36:47] rapidtrades : so finex now says they will settle all positions with prices back on aug2
[2016-08-04 00:36:53] rapidtrades : is that right
[2016-08-04 00:37:16] rapidtrades : $604 for bitcoin
[2016-08-04 00:38:57] rapidtrades : and they still haven't emailed anything
[2016-08-04 00:46:05] rapidtrades : and ofc they haven't relaunched today...they're finex why should anything go as planned
[2016-08-04 01:06:42] Rado : Settle as back to cash?
[2016-08-04 01:17:43] rapidtrades : same as if u closed them yourself at 604 i guess
[2016-08-04 01:19:36] babybaby : heh
[2016-08-04 01:20:32] rapidtrades : USD trading much higher then china
[2016-08-04 01:20:51] gonfalons : opened a long ~28x at $503 yesterday with 0.1477 bitcoin. closed it at ~540. why do I have only .1477 again?
[2016-08-04 01:21:00] babybaby : so whos biying ETC and EXCL on bittrex now with me? easy profits
[2016-08-04 01:21:49] rapidtrades : gonfalons: whatever...noone knows ur size
[2016-08-04 01:22:59] rapidtrades : gonna guess some profits got eaten by the funding fees
[2016-08-04 01:23:13] rapidtrades : they were over 1% past 2 days
[2016-08-04 01:23:48] gonfalons : i would think I make quite a lot at a high leverage when price goes up $30 very quickly no?
[2016-08-04 01:23:50] gonfalons : not break even
[2016-08-04 01:24:39] rapidtrades : what was ur size
[2016-08-04 01:26:16] gonfalons : looks like 900
[2016-08-04 01:26:35] rapidtrades : calc says 0.1226 XBT
[2016-08-04 01:27:03] gonfalons : sounds about right pretty sure i had 0.147 maybe some did not go thorugh
[2016-08-04 01:27:28] gonfalons : and leverage was maxed i think 28x
[2016-08-04 01:28:28] rapidtrades : idk says lev max is 50/1 but i don't trade that high
[2016-08-04 01:45:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 22 @ 564.95
[2016-08-04 01:45:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 565.24
[2016-08-04 01:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 24900 @ 567.44 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : All aboard the MOON train!
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 15000 @ 567.92
[2016-08-04 01:52:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 111500 @ 568.12 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-04 01:55:26] mbaril : 111500 ouch
[2016-08-04 02:07:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 200 @ 0.004656
[2016-08-04 02:08:24] NukeLaloosh : XBTUSD mark price uses the Kaiko index, which right now is 50/50 okc and bitstamp, correct?
[2016-08-04 02:09:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 74 @ 569.67
[2016-08-04 02:09:18] rapidtrades : NukeLaloosh: think so
[2016-08-04 02:14:02] NukeLaloosh : thanks rapid. so why all the info on the contract specs page about mark pricing and fair basis?
[2016-08-04 02:18:07] NukeLaloosh : mark method is NOT FairPrice
[2016-08-04 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 700 @ 570.01
[2016-08-04 02:18:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 570.27 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-04 02:19:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 400 @ 570.89
[2016-08-04 02:21:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 600 @ 572.02
[2016-08-04 02:21:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 30000 @ 572.42 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-04 02:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1385 @ 572.71
[2016-08-04 02:23:53] subjective : Short = burn in ashes, good luck trading everyone
[2016-08-04 02:23:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3269 @ 573.74
[2016-08-04 02:26:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21 @ 574.77
[2016-08-04 02:39:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 650 @ 567.14
[2016-08-04 02:42:37] BitMEX_Jinming : NukeLaloosh: `Mark Price = Spot Price(Kaiko) * (1+Funding Basis)`
[2016-08-04 02:43:13] BitMEX_Jinming : NukeLaloosh: You can find the calculation in `Position Marking` of `https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide`
[2016-08-04 02:43:59] NukeLaloosh : thanks Jinming
[2016-08-04 02:44:14] BitMEX_Jinming : You are welcome :)
[2016-08-04 02:59:09] zanza : https://steemit.com/bitfinex/@btcto100k/bitfinex-ceo-on-the-run
[2016-08-04 03:00:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 466 @ 0.01825
[2016-08-04 03:38:44] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: hey my realized pnl seems a little high? Can i private chat u
[2016-08-04 03:44:43] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: Sure, can you send the details to support@bitmex.com, we will look at it.
[2016-08-04 03:46:12] Skippy882 : You got it
[2016-08-04 03:50:59] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: email starts with malesevic
[2016-08-04 03:53:53] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: Yes, I got it. Looking at it now.
[2016-08-04 04:02:05] Skippy882 : BitMEX_Jinming: cool still a little new
[2016-08-04 04:02:40] jung1 : morning
[2016-08-04 04:10:23] NukeLaloosh : jung1: yo
[2016-08-04 04:13:52] jung1 : bitcoin should have hard fork after finex scam
[2016-08-04 04:14:36] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2016-08-04 04:19:29] BitMEX_Jinming : Skippy882: I have replied your email.
[2016-08-04 04:22:02] NukeLaloosh : i'd like to hard fork my sept long
[2016-08-04 04:22:49] jung1 : get rekt or die tryin'
[2016-08-04 04:23:06] jung1 : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4w0ghl/my_lendingbots_log_from_right_before_bitfinex/
[2016-08-04 04:25:32] CaptainDean : Holy fuck i missed some massive rekt
[2016-08-04 04:25:54] jung1 : yeah bitcoin is dead
[2016-08-04 04:25:57] jung1 : now its official
[2016-08-04 04:27:33] CaptainDean : I'm having a hard tmie trying to figure out why poeple fucking blame bitcoin for that
[2016-08-04 04:27:58] CaptainDean : It's finex problem, not bitcoin itself
[2016-08-04 04:28:12] jung1 : its easiest way
[2016-08-04 04:28:18] jung1 : same was with gox
[2016-08-04 04:28:38] jung1 : "Goxed", "finexed". The lesson is clear: Don't have BTC in exchanges whose names sound like they can be turned into synonyms for being tricked/confounded.
[2016-08-04 04:28:46] jung1 : bitmexed?
[2016-08-04 04:28:50] jung1 : : |
[2016-08-04 04:28:59] CaptainDean : i hope not :P
[2016-08-04 04:29:02] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-04 04:29:24] CaptainDean : so we gain another 10$ since I left for hockey :P
[2016-08-04 04:29:43] CaptainDean : we had some massive rekt @ 572
[2016-08-04 04:30:41] CaptainDean : i think it's the guy that made a spike to that 572$ earlier today. he paid a premium 10$ on the 562$ but i'm just guessing
[2016-08-04 04:40:38] jung1 : btw
[2016-08-04 04:40:39] jung1 : Hacker used bitfinex and bitgo keys
[2016-08-04 04:41:28] jung1 : coinbase, bitstamp, kraken, shapeshift use bitgo as well
[2016-08-04 05:54:38] Muhammed : how long do you guys think until we see btc at $650 usd again?
[2016-08-04 05:59:07] jung1 : you mean $666?
[2016-08-04 05:59:42] jung1 : well basicly if hacker will sell all that 120k btc
[2016-08-04 05:59:58] jung1 : he could clean buy orders on most of exchanges
[2016-08-04 06:00:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 70 @ 0.004845
[2016-08-04 06:01:13] rapidtrades : coinbase 590
[2016-08-04 06:01:24] Muhammed : jung1: stuth
[2016-08-04 06:04:01] jung1 : sloth?
[2016-08-04 06:04:21] jung1 : http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/437/645/a9d.jpg
[2016-08-04 06:08:25] lockhedge : jung1: the hacker didn't directly use BitGo's key, BitGo just signed all tx signed by Bitfinex. that's how it supposed to work
[2016-08-04 06:09:12] jung1 : yeah but bitgo should check that $70mln withrawal
[2016-08-04 06:15:01] lockhedge : jung1: not their job to manually review transactions.
[2016-08-04 06:33:34] BitMEX_Wally : BitGo lets you configure limits and they they will only counter-sign within these limits
[2016-08-04 06:34:07] BitMEX_Wally : Will be interesting to see if Bitfinex had such limits configured, and if so, how they were breached
[2016-08-04 06:35:10] sharpie0101 : how get bigo key?
[2016-08-04 06:35:35] sharpie0101 : should just follow aes standards
[2016-08-04 06:35:56] BitMEX_Wally : Bitfinex had an API key with BitGo which they used to instruct BitGo to sign transactions
[2016-08-04 06:36:26] BitMEX_Wally : BitGo's private keys were not compromised says BitGo
[2016-08-04 06:40:58] micmix : I would assume that BitGo had at least basic checks for those 'sign tx' API calls and could detect unusual activity like large number of calls per minute
[2016-08-04 06:45:07] jung1 : yeah they should saw it
[2016-08-04 06:45:10] lockhedge : their main product BitGo Instant requires a fixed set of rules. they only do not co-sign transactions if they detect double spending or limits set by the user were hit
[2016-08-04 06:46:21] jung1 : so I bet that more than 1mln bitcoin was stolen totally
[2016-08-04 06:46:30] BitMEX_Wally : So the question is, what limits were set by the user?
[2016-08-04 06:48:21] lockhedge : BitMEX_Wally: seems like Bitfinex had only local limits and required BitGo to sign all tx
[2016-08-04 06:48:30] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah :(
[2016-08-04 06:48:36] micmix : are those limits per each BitGo wallet, meaning per individual wallets of each finex customer?