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[2016-08-03 10:10:20] macios15 : and they give announcment the perfect time when we broke that china support level lol
[2016-08-03 10:18:31] macios15 : or if its not fake lets make some hard fork and make even more money like eth etc
[2016-08-03 10:18:35] macios15 : lol
[2016-08-03 10:18:59] PatioCrasher : who you talking too?
[2016-08-03 10:19:08] ersagun : PatioCrasher: LOL
[2016-08-03 10:19:50] PatioCrasher : no one feeding trolls in here macios
[2016-08-03 10:22:20] macios15 : PatioCrasher: its even called trollbox
[2016-08-03 10:25:17] PatioCrasher : To be able to chat to yourself for an hour is dedication. Carry on. .
[2016-08-03 10:27:38] PatioCrasher : You should try steemit.. They would love your conspiracy theories about how a major exchange that makes mega fees off higher btc price planned to put btc in a mojar bear market though. I am sure they will even pay you for it
[2016-08-03 10:30:09] rapidtrades : once delevereging goes like here ill make this one of my main sites
[2016-08-03 10:30:38] rapidtrades : if they get hacked i won't lose a lot
[2016-08-03 10:31:11] rapidtrades : anyone tried bitvc? heard they do delevereging too
[2016-08-03 10:31:16] ersagun : Steemit is james-jl777 project, righgt?
[2016-08-03 10:31:45] PatioCrasher : no idea who I was being sarcastic.
[2016-08-03 10:33:23] PatioCrasher : with deleveraging you can take some margin out or ? how does it work rapidtrades?
[2016-08-03 10:33:42] lockhedge : rapidtrades: how much (more) liquidity in the order book do you think XBTUSD needs to be able to manage bfx like order flow? it's currently about 50000 contracts within a 1% spread here
[2016-08-03 10:34:20] rapidtrades : PatioCrasher: delevereging should mean no clawbacks...that's all i want
[2016-08-03 10:34:46] PatioCrasher : oh ok.. I see.
[2016-08-03 10:43:09] rapidtrades : they're gonna make announcement 'later today'
[2016-08-03 10:43:15] rapidtrades : whenever that is
[2016-08-03 10:46:21] PatioCrasher : rapidtrades whats your view on the outcome of either them announcing insolvency or some sort of recovery scheme and the effect on the market in either scenario?
[2016-08-03 10:55:23] rapidtrades : we'll see today
[2016-08-03 10:55:31] rapidtrades : can't see them coming back from this
[2016-08-03 10:55:56] rapidtrades : im preparing mentally to wait a few years for those funds
[2016-08-03 10:56:04] rapidtrades : while the legal funds is sorted out
[2016-08-03 10:56:09] PatioCrasher : and the market ? another leg down?
[2016-08-03 10:56:43] rapidtrades : probably
[2016-08-03 10:57:31] rapidtrades : im still net short
[2016-08-03 10:58:06] PatioCrasher : Cool. Thanks man.. I got a hedge a nice hedge in still from last night, buying a car this week and been cashing out coin while trying to make this price fluctuation not matter
[2016-08-03 10:59:27] rapidtrades : good idea haxors can't steal cars
[2016-08-03 10:59:30] rapidtrades : ....yet
[2016-08-03 10:59:36] PatioCrasher : lol.. :)
[2016-08-03 11:00:25] PatioCrasher : insurance also cheap enough
[2016-08-03 11:00:43] rapidtrades : i hope they're not stupid to allow trading while being insolvent
[2016-08-03 11:01:39] PatioCrasher : that would be gox level stupidity
[2016-08-03 11:01:47] PatioCrasher : and sure fire way to get some jail time
[2016-08-03 11:03:24] rapidtrades : im more worried about ppl bidding up bitcoin to +1000 trying to cash out
[2016-08-03 11:03:37] rapidtrades : would insta rekt margined shorts
[2016-08-03 11:04:23] lockhedge : they might try to bail out corporate (verified) customers as they said that usd funds are not affected.
[2016-08-03 11:05:07] rapidtrades : i don't see they're not liable for the hack
[2016-08-03 11:05:51] rapidtrades : it's basically random chance if u got haxed
[2016-08-03 11:11:38] rapidtrades : then again if they advertised 'segregated wallets' they may not be allowed to spread the damage across all
[2016-08-03 11:12:32] PatioCrasher : allowing trading with no actual coins would be illegal tho
[2016-08-03 11:13:15] rapidtrades : i'm thinking what route they could take re:compensation
[2016-08-03 11:13:45] PatioCrasher : freeze btc balances and slowly unfreeze small amounts until paid
[2016-08-03 11:14:41] rapidtrades : why would slowly doing it help
[2016-08-03 11:14:54] PatioCrasher : Because they could pay out from fees
[2016-08-03 11:15:13] rapidtrades : i don't see them doing that prolly illegal
[2016-08-03 11:15:15] lockhedge : it's actually two companies "for U.S. Persons: BFXNA Inc" and, "where you are not a U.S. Perso, iFinex Inc." ("iFinex") and they have different key policies for US and non-US customers
[2016-08-03 11:15:29] rapidtrades : go on.....
[2016-08-03 11:16:06] rapidtrades : finex needs to find 60-70 mil today or they're going under
[2016-08-03 11:16:26] PatioCrasher : How much profit do they make per month?
[2016-08-03 11:16:35] rapidtrades : only question is how would they spread the damage....pool it or let affected accounts down the drain
[2016-08-03 11:17:26] rapidtrades : idk smone on reddit said 500k...who knows
[2016-08-03 11:17:52] lockhedge : shitty arbitration rules in their terms, they already elected a judge: "The arbitrator shall be Michael J. Lee, an attorney in San Diego, California"
[2016-08-03 11:18:08] rapidtrades : when did they elect him
[2016-08-03 11:18:32] lockhedge : "Arbitration: Any dispute, controversy, or claim, arising only from the invocation of arbitration pursuant to paragraphs 5 or 6 of these Terms of Service, shall be exclusively referred to and finally resolved under arbitration in accordance with the Commercial Arbitration Rules and Mediation Procedures of the American Arbitration Association"
[2016-08-03 11:19:53] rapidtrades : doesn't mean anything to me
[2016-08-03 11:20:09] lockhedge : their terms in google cache: webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DMFWehppBtkJ:https://www.bitfinex.com/terms
[2016-08-03 11:32:04] rapidtrades : If account is locked withdrawals for 5 days after a password change, is it safe from this attack? A: No, the attack bypassed restrictions such as these
[2016-08-03 11:32:21] rapidtrades : looks like they got completely compromised not just wallets like they claim
[2016-08-03 11:32:48] rapidtrades : haxors prolly took bitcoin cos it was the easiest to rob
[2016-08-03 11:33:42] rapidtrades : u can't withdraw USD and LTC,ETH etc are much lower value
[2016-08-03 11:34:38] rapidtrades : it also looks like affected accounts will be the only ones stuck with the loss....that's a lawsuit waiitng to happen
[2016-08-03 11:35:00] rapidtrades : i guess they will get sued either way
[2016-08-03 11:35:54] rapidtrades : 'Transparency is a big one, but another big plus for the segregated customer wallets is/was the ability to have granular settings and limits for each user's wallet. Obviously things did not work out like that. There are a couple other large benefits, I'll probably write up a post describing why we decided to go with that set up later today, we'll see how things go'
[2016-08-03 11:36:39] rapidtrades : btw ppl not on reddit prolly have to clue the hax even happened...never got email
[2016-08-03 11:36:47] rapidtrades : maybe they saw it on bloomberg
[2016-08-03 11:39:39] ersagun : Guys, is it really the fact that BFX+Stamp+btc-e combines for less then 5% daily volume?? Are the Chinese really that strong of a monopol?
[2016-08-03 11:40:29] rapidtrades : yeah they have the volume
[2016-08-03 11:41:19] ersagun : I though they account for ~70% Damn I'm so outdated
[2016-08-03 11:42:28] rapidtrades : it's around 90ish
[2016-08-03 11:43:51] lockhedge : Bitfinex insolvency - British Virgin Islands Insolvency Law in 60 Seconds http://www.harneys.com/files/bvi-insolvency-law-in-60-seconds-%281%29.pdf
[2016-08-03 11:45:18] lockhedge : ersagun: hard to say with 0 fees which amount of chinese volume is wash trading
[2016-08-03 11:47:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5008 @ 543.44
[2016-08-03 11:47:20] ersagun : lockhedge: fair point. Some
[2016-08-03 11:47:24] macios15 : no rekt jet
[2016-08-03 11:52:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 16000 @ 545.91
[2016-08-03 11:52:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 547.71
[2016-08-03 12:02:35] ersagun : Guys, assume that I've closed my position and waiting for the settlement time. Would the "unrealised PNL" be may real PNL at settlement time? Say for 99% of the time? Or it will certainly be different?
[2016-08-03 12:04:38] asdfasdf : my realize pnl went up by 0.04 but when I hover over realized pnl it sais 0.24, why would that be?
[2016-08-03 12:04:44] asdfasdf : my realized pnl went up by 0.04 but when I hover over realized pnl it sais 0.24, why would that be?
[2016-08-03 12:04:55] BitMEX_Wally : If you have closed your position then your unrealised PNL would be 0
[2016-08-03 12:05:50] BitMEX_Wally : At settlement or rebalance unrealised PNL becomes realised
[2016-08-03 12:06:07] BitMEX_Wally : asdfasdf: if you hover over it shows the raw realised PNL since the last rebalance
[2016-08-03 12:06:23] ersagun : BitMEX_Wally: sorry, I meant withheld profit
[2016-08-03 12:07:19] asdfasdf : so shouldn't my realized pnl have increased by the raw realized PNL since last rebalance?
[2016-08-03 12:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : Withheld profit will go to 0 and assuming DPE is 0% then 100% of the realisedPNL will go into your wallet
[2016-08-03 12:07:32] asdfasdf : 0.24 instead of 0.04
[2016-08-03 12:07:40] ersagun : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks
[2016-08-03 12:09:14] BitMEX_Wally : asdfasdf: have a look at your wallet history for the history of rebalances
[2016-08-03 12:09:15] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2016-08-03 12:14:37] asdfasdf : it's not really helping
[2016-08-03 12:15:18] ersagun : asdfasdf: BTW do you consider paying the SWAP/funding fee?
[2016-08-03 12:15:33] asdfasdf : i had a 20000 long open
[2016-08-03 12:15:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 4 @ 0.01716 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 12:16:32] asdfasdf : so yes, should have gotten 0.68% * 20000 = 0.24 btc
[2016-08-03 12:17:23] asdfasdf : just like the raw realized PNL since last rebanced
[2016-08-03 12:17:47] asdfasdf : so what am I missing?
[2016-08-03 12:19:53] asdfasdf : ok I think it's just the raw realized PLN since last rebalance value that is wrong
[2016-08-03 12:21:00] asdfasdf : should have been 0.04 not 0.24 like it was
[2016-08-03 12:22:22] ayy_lmao : i got like 0.6 btc
[2016-08-03 12:23:22] asdfasdf : I had an entry price of 550 for the 20000 long, rebalance was at 547
[2016-08-03 12:25:12] asdfasdf : so doing the math my balance went up corectly by 0.04 when taking into account the loss from 550 to 547 but the value reported when hovering over relized pnl is just wrong
[2016-08-03 12:26:38] elmorte : did you account for funding?
[2016-08-03 12:26:49] asdfasdf : yes
[2016-08-03 12:27:18] asdfasdf : funding +0.24, rebalance -0.20
[2016-08-03 12:28:01] asdfasdf : raw realized pnl since last rebalance should have been 0.04 not 0.24 like it was showing
[2016-08-03 12:28:53] elmorte : Only funding is included
[2016-08-03 12:28:59] elmorte : "since last rebalance"
[2016-08-03 12:29:05] elmorte : rebalance is not included
[2016-08-03 12:29:20] asdfasdf : oh ok that explains it then
[2016-08-03 12:29:30] elmorte : you your realised pnl since last rebalance = funding
[2016-08-03 12:29:31] dorothy490 : https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex different from market price, why?
[2016-08-03 12:29:32] elmorte : same here
[2016-08-03 12:30:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 70 @ 0.01750
[2016-08-03 12:31:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 160 @ 0.004926
[2016-08-03 12:31:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 220 @ 0.01751
[2016-08-03 12:32:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1600 @ 547.87
[2016-08-03 13:06:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 250 @ 550.53
[2016-08-03 13:06:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10 @ 550.70
[2016-08-03 13:10:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 53590 @ 552.54 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-03 13:11:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 13000 @ 554.89
[2016-08-03 13:13:18] muirtastic_ : Why are the funding fees so sky high for short XBTUSD postions right now? 0.6% every 8 hrs is killing me.
[2016-08-03 13:18:14] tiny_knob : :o
[2016-08-03 13:19:12] yerb : BitMEX_Wally: maybe its a good time for BitMex to do some heavy advertizing to get more customers
[2016-08-03 13:20:09] lockhedge : muirtastic_: funding rate is based on the premium market vs. index https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#premium
[2016-08-03 13:20:45] ersagun : interesting recovery.. it will almost get past the BFX theft level in under 24 hours
[2016-08-03 13:21:12] Rado : ersagun: If somehow finex thing is resolved it could be wild
[2016-08-03 13:21:45] bernx : there is inside trading
[2016-08-03 13:21:51] bernx : like short before news
[2016-08-03 13:21:54] ersagun : the announcement is still due though. and it cannot.
[2016-08-03 13:21:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 57304 @ 558.02 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-03 13:22:07] lockhedge : Rado: resolved?
[2016-08-03 13:22:26] Rado : lockhedge: I have hopes that they can get the stolen BTC back
[2016-08-03 13:23:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 10400 @ 558.24
[2016-08-03 13:25:24] lockhedge : Rado: i don't believe that a significant amount can be recovered, but for bitcoin it probably won't have a negative impact
[2016-08-03 13:25:35] bernx : Na
[2016-08-03 13:25:42] bernx : You see don't in the right way
[2016-08-03 13:25:45] bernx : Open short
[2016-08-03 13:25:53] bernx : Then say funds stolen
[2016-08-03 13:25:55] lockhedge : market structure is much more healthy now after bitfinex is gone
[2016-08-03 13:25:59] bernx : Then close short
[2016-08-03 13:26:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4850 @ 562.81
[2016-08-03 13:26:02] bernx : open long
[2016-08-03 13:26:09] bernx : Then say there is ROBINHOOD
[2016-08-03 13:26:12] bernx : easy
[2016-08-03 13:26:29] bernx : Hacker don't even need this 125k btc mate
[2016-08-03 13:26:31] Rado : bernx it's not so easy to pull this off
[2016-08-03 13:26:50] rapidtrades : whats going on
[2016-08-03 13:27:12] bernx : Just open chart
[2016-08-03 13:27:18] bernx : And you get whats going on
[2016-08-03 13:27:35] bernx : THey can catch hacker and say
[2016-08-03 13:27:38] bernx : all fine
[2016-08-03 13:27:43] rapidtrades : bs
[2016-08-03 13:27:47] bernx : or just say about robinhood
[2016-08-03 13:27:51] bernx : easy as shit
[2016-08-03 13:29:10] Rado : rapidtrades: buy the 84193 liqudation on XBTU16
[2016-08-03 13:30:04] mike1000 : Rado: how are your bots doing in current market?
[2016-08-03 13:30:42] Rado : mike1000: lost some profits on the choppy market over the last 2-3 weeks
[2016-08-03 13:30:48] Rado : making them back now
[2016-08-03 13:31:10] Rado : bots trade great when we have trend
[2016-08-03 13:31:21] Rado : need to create another bot for choppy market :-)
[2016-08-03 13:31:35] PatioCrasher : http://fuckethereum.com/ <-- You guys seen this shit? lol
[2016-08-03 13:31:44] mike1000 : Rado: I'm interested too, check your Skype btw
[2016-08-03 13:32:02] Rado : mike1000: I don't use Skype
[2016-08-03 13:32:59] mike1000 : Rado: oh, I found someone there, thought it was you ) any other messenger?
[2016-08-03 13:33:17] Rado : twitter?
[2016-08-03 13:34:00] mike1000 : Rado: sure
[2016-08-03 13:34:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 320 @ 0.005263
[2016-08-03 13:43:14] Rado : mike1000: https://twitter.com/hubavka
[2016-08-03 13:43:36] mike1000 : Rado: thx, ll write you soom
[2016-08-03 13:44:03] mike1000 : Just need to remember my twitter passwd :)
[2016-08-03 13:46:45] Airmike : Hi guys. could you tell me where I can find data about trading volume on BitMex ?
[2016-08-03 13:47:58] BitMEX_Sam : Airmike: https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Stats/Stats_history
[2016-08-03 13:49:10] Rado : Airmike: simple 24h volumes by coinmarketcap as well https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitmex/
[2016-08-03 13:50:04] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: are these numbers accurate?
[2016-08-03 13:50:06] Airmike : thank you
[2016-08-03 13:50:35] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: Not exactly, http://exchangewar.info/ is generally more accurate
[2016-08-03 13:50:47] Rado : thanks
[2016-08-03 14:01:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2563 @ 0.005552
[2016-08-03 14:01:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.005646
[2016-08-03 14:03:34] CaptainDean : good morning
[2016-08-03 14:03:49] CaptainDean : looks like we are on the road to 500$
[2016-08-03 14:03:57] CaptainDean : 600$*
[2016-08-03 14:04:04] dasdfasdf : that sounds better
[2016-08-03 14:07:07] Rado : $600 is easy
[2016-08-03 14:07:13] Rado : the question is what happens after that
[2016-08-03 14:07:54] CaptainDean : we go to 620 and we go down again
[2016-08-03 14:08:01] CaptainDean : i really don't know :P
[2016-08-03 14:08:09] Rado : lol
[2016-08-03 14:08:14] Rado : you and everyone else
[2016-08-03 14:08:15] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-03 14:08:26] Rado : I think long term this is a very good place to enter
[2016-08-03 14:08:40] jesperf : the best piece of advice is to flip a coin
[2016-08-03 14:08:46] Rado : in a year people will beat themself up for not buying at $500
[2016-08-03 14:08:58] CaptainDean : we are deu for a correction, we are just going up since the crash
[2016-08-03 14:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 555.34
[2016-08-03 14:15:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 720 @ 555.57
[2016-08-03 14:16:01] ersagun : Guys, do different positions get merged under one single position in here? As it looks like that but then what determines the liquidation price as it was different on my 3 positions?
[2016-08-03 14:16:43] rapidtrades : yeah everything is merged if under same contract
[2016-08-03 14:18:05] bitbucks : how is the xbt mark being calculated without bitfinex
[2016-08-03 14:18:07] ersagun : And the current liquidation price is a weighted average of all positions combined?
[2016-08-03 14:18:37] aethlios : bitbucks: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-03 14:18:47] bitbucks : thanks
[2016-08-03 14:18:52] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2016-08-03 14:18:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2600 @ 552.22
[2016-08-03 14:19:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 130 @ 551.19
[2016-08-03 14:19:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19000 @ 550.38
[2016-08-03 14:20:21] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, you always have a single position ersagun
[2016-08-03 14:20:36] BitMEX_Sam : If you sell 10, then sell 10, you've sold 20, you don't have two independent positions of -10
[2016-08-03 14:20:50] dorothy490 : what is column "exec price" in Fills?
[2016-08-03 14:21:17] BitMEX_Sam : Execution Price
[2016-08-03 14:22:24] rapidtrades : dam we ALMOST filled sept liq
[2016-08-03 14:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 549.76
[2016-08-03 14:24:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 630 @ 549.67
[2016-08-03 14:24:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6420 @ 547.11
[2016-08-03 14:24:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 547.37
[2016-08-03 14:24:48] ersagun : BitMEX_Sam: thanks. And the current liquidation price is a weighted average, right? So that I can add some more positions in order to keep a position open which is nearing it's liquidation price?
[2016-08-03 14:25:09] BitMEX_Sam : Generally you'd want to reduce to avoid getting liquidated, not increase
[2016-08-03 14:25:19] BitMEX_Sam : So yes, if you're short, buy some contracts, or vice-versa, if you want to stave off liquidation
[2016-08-03 14:25:29] BitMEX_Sam : Alternatively, add funds or reduce leverage via the slider on the left
[2016-08-03 14:25:44] ersagun : Yeah asking theoretically to understand the mechanic. Got it
[2016-08-03 14:27:52] dorothy490 : why on Liqudation Exec price actually differs from Liquidation price?
[2016-08-03 14:28:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9090 @ 542.03
[2016-08-03 14:28:24] BitMEX_Sam : Because liquidations are executed at your bankruptcy price, not at your liquidation price
[2016-08-03 14:28:33] BitMEX_Sam : The system needs a small amount of buffer with which to sell the position
[2016-08-03 14:28:45] BitMEX_Sam : We're working to display more information on those liquidations to make it clearer.
[2016-08-03 14:34:46] rapidtrades : this finex shit will drag on for days
[2016-08-03 14:34:53] rapidtrades : can't see it helping sentiment
[2016-08-03 14:35:02] elmorte : for sure
[2016-08-03 14:36:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 100 @ 546.66
[2016-08-03 14:36:28] rapidtrades : how many wallets got drained
[2016-08-03 14:36:39] rapidtrades : did they go for big ones or what
[2016-08-03 14:38:34] Rado : suspension i skilling me rapidtrades
[2016-08-03 14:38:46] rapidtrades : DOES NOONE DO RESEARCH HERE
[2016-08-03 14:38:50] Rado : need to know if my account is gone or not
[2016-08-03 14:39:36] rapidtrades : guess we'll know today...whenever they allow logins
[2016-08-03 14:39:45] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: have you guys conceder min order amount
[2016-08-03 14:39:57] elmorte : What makes you think it's today? @rapidtrades
[2016-08-03 14:39:59] Rado : for example on ETC7D should be 100 contarcts
[2016-08-03 14:40:01] rapidtrades : u got a 5-10% chance for total annihilation
[2016-08-03 14:40:08] Rado : I hate the 3 contracts orders
[2016-08-03 14:40:11] rapidtrades : elmorte: zaneticket
[2016-08-03 14:40:15] dasdfasdf : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-03 14:40:23] elmorte : Cool
[2016-08-03 14:40:38] Rado : rapidtrades: how did you calculate the 5-10%
[2016-08-03 14:40:50] rapidtrades : that's how much coins they lost
[2016-08-03 14:41:21] rapidtrades : but if u affected you'll lose everything cos they're not spreading it around
[2016-08-03 14:41:35] rapidtrades : that's what I gather from zane comments anyway
[2016-08-03 14:41:59] dasdfasdf : How could you justify that
[2016-08-03 14:42:13] rapidtrades : 'segregated wallets'
[2016-08-03 14:42:16] rapidtrades : LOL
[2016-08-03 14:42:30] elmorte : SOL
[2016-08-03 14:42:37] rapidtrades : basically
[2016-08-03 14:43:40] elmorte : Ok, so at least they'll allow read access today...that's a good thing. I just need a $65 jump in bitcoin to get out of my long
[2016-08-03 14:43:56] Rado : rapidtrades: do you know if exchange wallets were affected?
[2016-08-03 14:44:03] Rado : looks like funding wallets were
[2016-08-03 14:44:06] Rado : as well as margin
[2016-08-03 14:44:14] rapidtrades : they all are affected
[2016-08-03 14:44:15] Rado : not sure if exchange wallets were as well
[2016-08-03 14:44:26] rapidtrades : all btc
[2016-08-03 14:44:33] Rado : so no difference
[2016-08-03 14:44:42] Rado : they keep them in the same palce?
[2016-08-03 14:44:45] Rado : place
[2016-08-03 14:45:24] rapidtrades : your bitgo wallet is HD and contains several addresses including those 3 u see
[2016-08-03 14:46:41] Rado : k
[2016-08-03 14:51:29] rapidtrades : they're not even giving a timeline...just 'today UTC'
[2016-08-03 14:51:47] rapidtrades : and they subtly started wording it today instead of daytime UTC
[2016-08-03 14:52:02] rapidtrades : so it may not even happen today given finex record
[2016-08-03 14:52:45] elmorte : today UTC is pretty definitive. Before midnight UTC
[2016-08-03 14:53:02] elmorte : if he didn't specify the timezone, it'd be more suss
[2016-08-03 14:53:46] rapidtrades : b4 it was daytime not today
[2016-08-03 15:04:57] lockhedge : rapidtrades: they will probably spend several $100k for legal advice now, then they will announce something
[2016-08-03 15:06:22] elmorte : Ah, I didn't see the earlier posts
[2016-08-03 15:18:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 500 @ 547.66
[2016-08-03 15:18:52] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2016-08-03 15:24:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5500 @ 550.74
[2016-08-03 15:39:03] sleepywhale : How does a trader set a stop loss on an order? Is liquidation price the only "stop loss" that is available? Say I buy a 1000 contracts now, but I don't want to loose more than %3 Ideally I'd set my stop at $575
[2016-08-03 15:54:59] BitMEX_Sam : sleepywhale: See the Stop Market order type
[2016-08-03 16:03:32] BitMEX_Greg : sleepywhale: https://www.bitmex.com/app/stopLimitOrder
[2016-08-03 16:07:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 120 @ 0.01665
[2016-08-03 16:22:25] sleepywhale : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks, I see you have to use them in conjunction with other order types. So if I wanted to go long at $500 I'd have to set a limit order and then to create a stop loss I have to create a stop limit at the value I'd like to exit my position at and the price I'd like that order to execute at once the price drops below the trigger?
[2016-08-03 16:28:16] rapidtrades : guys
[2016-08-03 16:30:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 555.28
[2016-08-03 16:32:38] rapidtrades : china much lower
[2016-08-03 16:32:47] rapidtrades : pump is BS
[2016-08-03 16:35:26] BitMEX_Greg : sleepywhale: So do you want to put a stop order on an existing position or a new position? If you want an existing position you can look at `Stop Market` or `Trailing Stop`. If you want to place a new order with a stop then yes use the `Stop Limit` order
[2016-08-03 16:42:15] rapidtrades : so if ur coins are there cash out right away or what
[2016-08-03 16:42:23] rapidtrades : what's ur play
[2016-08-03 16:44:04] miramm1115 : mine are gone
[2016-08-03 16:45:45] ersagun : I doubt they will allow withdraws in few days
[2016-08-03 17:03:06] j8 : rapidtrades: if they do open trading there will be a huge shortage of coins on the exchange.. people might be scrambling to buy if they are able to withdraw
[2016-08-03 17:08:45] j8 : it's gonna be messy one way or another
[2016-08-03 17:11:45] rullwull : as i understood many longers are affected who bought stolen coins with leverage
[2016-08-03 17:15:25] j8 : yeah, well many of them would be way past bankrupt if their stolen coins were marked to $0
[2016-08-03 17:15:44] esuvari : BitMEX_Greg: my position seems to be closed on its own but neither recent trades, nor the price chart shows it
[2016-08-03 17:16:15] esuvari : it's odd because it was sold waaaay lower then the price.. how can this happen?
[2016-08-03 17:16:43] esuvari : etc7d price never went to 5065 but in my fills history, that's what I see.
[2016-08-03 17:17:04] rullwull : the hack has happened yesterday around 12UTC, acc with btc or btc longs are at that time are under risk, shorts are fine
[2016-08-03 17:17:32] rullwull : shorts could be opened without btc)
[2016-08-03 17:20:26] j8 : in theory, who knows how they'll actually handle it
[2016-08-03 17:22:50] brasska : even if they wont be handle it by themselves i believe there wont be a problem to find an external help, its an attractive bussines
[2016-08-03 17:23:48] wurstgelee : esuvari: which position?
[2016-08-03 17:24:09] wurstgelee : oh nvm
[2016-08-03 17:24:11] justinlooking : esuvari: what time?
[2016-08-03 17:24:31] wurstgelee : justinlooking: he doesnt know i guess
[2016-08-03 17:24:44] wurstgelee : " but neither recent trades, nor the price chart shows it"
[2016-08-03 17:24:53] justinlooking : it shows in fills
[2016-08-03 17:25:00] wurstgelee : it should
[2016-08-03 17:25:01] wurstgelee : yes
[2016-08-03 17:30:33] brasska : what is going with jpy mark price?
[2016-08-03 17:33:06] CaptainDean : BTC-E just spike at 580
[2016-08-03 17:49:43] BitMEX_Greg : esuvari: It shows your bankruptcy price, not the price at which it was liquidated at
[2016-08-03 17:56:39] mike1000 : BitMEX_Greg: how to get available balance (green) with API? Not wallet balance
[2016-08-03 17:57:35] mike1000 : Subtract pending profits?
[2016-08-03 17:58:27] BitMEX_Sam : mike1000: That's `margin.marginBalance`
[2016-08-03 18:06:13] mike1000 : BitMEX_Sam: that's identical to wallet balance, what I look for is `margin.availableMargin`.Thanks
[2016-08-03 18:08:14] BitMEX_Greg : mike1000: Try `margin.excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:08:32] BitMEX_Greg : This is for "Available Balance"
[2016-08-03 18:08:47] mike1000 : Same as `availableMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:10:21] mike1000 : Or `excessMargin` is `availableMargin` minus open positions?
[2016-08-03 18:14:33] lockhedge : seems like `availableMargin`is the same as `excessMargin`and `withdrawableMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:14:38] BitMEX_Sam : The "Available Balance" shown at the top next to the announcements horn is `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:15:15] BitMEX_Sam : `withdrawableMargin` can be less than `excessMargin` if you have unrealised profit (profit subject to DPE, before rebalance)
[2016-08-03 18:18:05] lockhedge : BitMEX_Sam: i have unrealised and withheld profit but `withdrawableMargin`is the same as `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:21:55] bernx : BitMEX_Sam: where i can check my trade history? like symmary PNL
[2016-08-03 18:30:28] BitMEX_Greg : mike1000: `availableMargin` is deprecated and is the same as `excessMargin`
[2016-08-03 18:30:51] BitMEX_Greg : bernx: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 18:31:03] BitMEX_Greg : You can download a .csv there to work out your PnL
[2016-08-03 18:31:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 5700 @ 56885.0
[2016-08-03 18:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 150 @ 0.005223
[2016-08-03 18:32:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 3000 @ 57083.0
[2016-08-03 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 1 @ 561.29 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 18:41:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 3000 @ 561.49
[2016-08-03 18:41:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 12000 @ 562.87
[2016-08-03 18:42:49] blacktuesday : is it possible to log in on iOS with clef app?
[2016-08-03 18:43:11] blacktuesday : only seem to be able to use clef login on laptop.
[2016-08-03 18:43:18] Rado : you can
[2016-08-03 18:43:23] Rado : I use it on my iPhone
[2016-08-03 18:43:38] blacktuesday : I get an error when login with clef on iphone
[2016-08-03 18:44:04] Rado : what kind of error?
[2016-08-03 18:44:13] Rado : I get a pop up that says open Clef
[2016-08-03 18:44:23] Rado : then I confirm and it logs me in
[2016-08-03 18:45:04] blacktuesday : yeah I get that pop up, i confirm on the app but then it returns to bitmex login page with: "error during clef login: Invalid CSRF token" please retry...
[2016-08-03 18:45:18] blacktuesday : upon retry, same issue repeats
[2016-08-03 18:45:39] Rado : are you logged in on your Clef app?
[2016-08-03 18:45:47] blacktuesday : lyes
[2016-08-03 18:45:49] blacktuesday : yes
[2016-08-03 18:46:02] Rado : have you changed devices?
[2016-08-03 18:46:06] blacktuesday : nope
[2016-08-03 18:46:19] Rado : you can try disabling Clef and then enabling it again
[2016-08-03 18:46:29] Rado : it will ask you to set it up again I think
[2016-08-03 18:46:40] Rado : don't know more about this
[2016-08-03 18:46:54] blacktuesday : hmm.. ok. does it allow multiple logins like can i be login with clef both on my laptop and phone at same time?
[2016-08-03 18:46:57] Rado : you can also email BitMEX and/or Clef support
[2016-08-03 18:47:06] blacktuesday : thanks rado no worries. that's the next step
[2016-08-03 18:47:16] Rado : I am logged in on both yes
[2016-08-03 18:47:45] omicron : blacktuesday: i get the error with csrf token and i dont use clef
[2016-08-03 18:48:49] Eastbay : hi, new user here, waiting to deposit and start trading, you guys having any issues?
[2016-08-03 18:49:37] Eastbay : major issues, i mean, that are effecting say trading/leverage/deposits/withdraws ect..
[2016-08-03 18:49:38] Rado : Eastbay: the best exchange from my perspective
[2016-08-03 18:50:06] Eastbay : yeah, im starting to get back into leverage trading after losing it all on x20 okcoin :)
[2016-08-03 18:50:09] Eastbay : fun stuff
[2016-08-03 18:50:21] Rado : sorry to hear
[2016-08-03 18:50:29] Eastbay : "woodchipper" lool
[2016-08-03 18:50:36] Rado : yeah
[2016-08-03 18:50:52] Rado : they also replace fuck
[2016-08-03 18:50:57] Eastbay : its been won and lost afew times :) cloak, DRK, x20, ect.. i'll get it back
[2016-08-03 18:50:59] willybot : I just started trading. They "seem" ok.
[2016-08-03 18:51:18] jesperf : i've been here for more than a year
[2016-08-03 18:51:21] jesperf : it's a great place
[2016-08-03 18:51:28] willybot : Security appears A1
[2016-08-03 18:51:33] Eastbay : nice, good replacement for okcoin? that place was good
[2016-08-03 18:52:15] wotan : good place here i agree dont had any problems
[2016-08-03 18:52:39] BitMEX_Greg : willybot: Thanks, its unfortunate what has happened with Bitfinex. We pride ourselves on our security
[2016-08-03 18:52:59] Eastbay : thanks gents, ill move some btc from circle now and get started :)
[2016-08-03 18:53:09] Eastbay : LONG it is
[2016-08-03 18:53:44] justinlooking : hardcore
[2016-08-03 18:54:25] willybot : This place will be 1000 users consistent after 2 weeks
[2016-08-03 18:54:53] lockhedge : Eastbay: hurry up, longs receive 0.6473% interest in 65min ;)
[2016-08-03 19:02:22] meh : why is there such a sick spred w ltc?
[2016-08-03 19:02:27] meh : spread*
[2016-08-03 19:02:39] jesperf : because no one is filling the gap :)
[2016-08-03 19:03:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 1210 @ 0.01759
[2016-08-03 19:04:26] Rado : lockhedge: that is one big funding rate
[2016-08-03 19:04:48] Rado : way more than the commissions you need to pay for buy and sell
[2016-08-03 19:07:59] rapidtrades : We don't have an office where everyone works, we are a decentralized company with employees all over the world. But we do have a bunch of people on the phone. Phil is taking this as best he can, he's focused on his work though, as we all our
[2016-08-03 19:09:19] justinlooking : rETC
[2016-08-03 19:10:37] rapidtrades : china nowhere near our prices
[2016-08-03 19:10:57] CaptainDean : 550 ?
[2016-08-03 19:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.004767
[2016-08-03 19:11:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2500 @ 0.004765
[2016-08-03 19:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 39 @ 0.004760
[2016-08-03 19:12:20] CaptainDean : Rado: what market is gently cares ?
[2016-08-03 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1 @ 0.004693 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-03 19:12:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 664 @ 0.004673
[2016-08-03 19:12:45] Rado : it's the word f*ck
[2016-08-03 19:12:53] omicron : rapidtrades: you work for finex?
[2016-08-03 19:13:00] Rado : omicron: lol
[2016-08-03 19:13:04] Rado : no he doesn't
[2016-08-03 19:13:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 63 @ 0.004620
[2016-08-03 19:13:13] CaptainDean : thanks Rado FUCK
[2016-08-03 19:13:16] Rado : he barely works for himself I think
[2016-08-03 19:13:34] Rado : ETC nice dump
[2016-08-03 19:13:51] Rado : I had a short at 0.0062 yesterday
[2016-08-03 19:13:52] Rado : :(
[2016-08-03 19:13:53] CaptainDean : Yeah i wish I was trading ETC and ETH also
[2016-08-03 19:14:03] Rado : should have held a lot longer than a scalp
[2016-08-03 19:14:17] CaptainDean : Did you make profit ?
[2016-08-03 19:14:21] Rado : yes
[2016-08-03 19:14:26] CaptainDean : so have no regrets :P
[2016-08-03 19:14:32] jesperf : Rado: don't blame yourself, it's a psychotic market. that could have blown up to 0.01 and you would be poor :P
[2016-08-03 19:14:33] CaptainDean : ;-)
[2016-08-03 19:14:35] Rado : all my trades are profitable - ha ha
[2016-08-03 19:14:50] CaptainDean : Rado: :D
[2016-08-03 19:15:07] jesperf : the money you lose hopefully you gain in wisdom
[2016-08-03 19:15:29] jesperf : lol what joke
[2016-08-03 19:16:40] Rado : jesperf: for sure I've learned a lot about trading when I lost money in trading option in the stock market
[2016-08-03 19:16:42] jesperf : wise men start hedge funds and play with other people's money
[2016-08-03 19:16:48] Rado : I can tell you that is the best way to learn
[2016-08-03 19:16:52] Rado : when money is on the line
[2016-08-03 19:20:35] bernx : This color for nickname it's about how much you depo get?
[2016-08-03 19:21:02] jesperf : that's probably just random
[2016-08-03 19:24:33] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-03 19:25:06] jesperf : it would be funny though
[2016-08-03 19:25:26] herpinator : I wonder how large the hidden order is
[2016-08-03 19:25:33] jesperf : text size increases with your account value
[2016-08-03 19:28:45] CaptainDean : well mine is not use often
[2016-08-03 19:28:52] CaptainDean : my color**
[2016-08-03 19:29:01] CaptainDean : i'm out guys hockey time, laters
[2016-08-03 19:41:45] Eastbay : Wow someone went full retard on a long
[2016-08-03 19:43:15] ayy_lmao : 0.64% hell yes
[2016-08-03 19:43:15] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-03 19:43:52] rapidtrades : yeah it's been sweet
[2016-08-03 19:44:03] rapidtrades : doesn't make up for finex f*ck up but its nice
[2016-08-03 19:48:21] rapidtrades : woah what happened
[2016-08-03 19:49:14] jesperf : someone really wanted some bitcoins?
[2016-08-03 19:49:29] rapidtrades : no the dump
[2016-08-03 19:49:38] rapidtrades : and wtf is going on with mark
[2016-08-03 19:49:51] rapidtrades : 562>567>563
[2016-08-03 19:51:53] jesperf : there was huge spike on stamp
[2016-08-03 19:53:39] jesperf : weak orderbooks
[2016-08-03 19:53:52] jesperf : just 80 btc took it up to 572
[2016-08-03 19:55:33] rapidtrades : lots os spikes higher today
[2016-08-03 19:55:36] rapidtrades : had one on btc-e too
[2016-08-03 19:56:44] rapidtrades : we had an honorable mention on bloomberg
[2016-08-03 19:56:53] rapidtrades : its always about shit like this
[2016-08-03 19:57:00] rapidtrades : thanks bitfinex u shit
[2016-08-03 19:57:08] jesperf : of course
[2016-08-03 19:57:17] jesperf : wall street loves to see cryptomoney burn
[2016-08-03 19:58:08] jesperf : come on miners, i'm waiting on a block here.. get busy
[2016-08-03 19:58:40] jesperf : slacking off for 36 minutes is kind of a lot
[2016-08-03 20:01:28] CaptainDean : block 1 mins ago
[2016-08-03 20:02:18] jesperf : wohoo
[2016-08-03 20:03:02] rapidtrades : GIMME THE MONEY
[2016-08-03 20:03:11] CaptainDean : Hope your fees was on the target tho :P
[2016-08-03 20:03:20] jesperf : they were ;)
[2016-08-03 20:03:26] CaptainDean : :D
[2016-08-03 20:05:14] Skitrx : starting to look bearish
[2016-08-03 20:10:31] Skitrx : any mods here?
[2016-08-03 20:13:15] Skitrx : -0.15btc PNL :/ is that right?
[2016-08-03 20:16:03] bernx : Whats>
[2016-08-03 20:16:22] BitMEX_Greg : Skitrx: Hi whats up
[2016-08-03 20:18:57] Eastbay : why the hell is my raw "realised PNL" -.1btc on a 1btc trade? trade fees are 10% thats insane!?
[2016-08-03 20:19:03] Skitrx : BitMEX_Greg: Hey, I'm just curious over my account balance, I'm down 0.15btc and my position liq price went down by 9
[2016-08-03 20:19:53] BitMEX_Greg : Were you short? there was just a round of funding
[2016-08-03 20:20:07] Eastbay : yeah, please explain
[2016-08-03 20:20:12] BitMEX_Greg : Check your trade history: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2016-08-03 20:20:27] Eastbay : dafaq?
[2016-08-03 20:20:59] Eastbay : what does that mean? i lose .1btc?
[2016-08-03 20:21:09] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Take a look at https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2016-08-03 20:21:19] BitMEX_Greg : It depends what position you are
[2016-08-03 20:21:33] BitMEX_Greg : In the recent round of funding longs got paid about 0.67% and shorts paid 0.67%
[2016-08-03 20:21:58] BitMEX_Greg : 0.647% *
[2016-08-03 20:22:14] Eastbay : so if i waited till now to open a short i would not have to pay?
[2016-08-03 20:22:18] Skitrx : jesus that's high
[2016-08-03 20:22:37] BitMEX_Greg : Yes there has been a lot of selling pressure given what has happened over the past day
[2016-08-03 20:22:46] jesperf : Eastbay: it happens every 8 hours
[2016-08-03 20:23:18] Eastbay : damn! so they just tax someone 10% 3 times a day
[2016-08-03 20:23:20] jesperf : check your right hand corner for important countdowns
[2016-08-03 20:23:21] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Correct, on the left side of the screen under Contract Details, it displays the funding rate and the time left to be charged
[2016-08-03 20:23:37] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: It wasn't 10%, and it is not a tax
[2016-08-03 20:23:57] BitMEX_Greg : The rate was 0.647% on your total positions
[2016-08-03 20:24:30] Eastbay : ok ok, got it, i gotta read up on this
[2016-08-03 20:24:36] jesperf : Eastbay: it's to keep the prices from deviating into premiums and discounts too much
[2016-08-03 20:24:38] lockhedge : Eastbay: congrats for trolling about going long and not knowing the FR
[2016-08-03 20:24:45] jesperf : :D
[2016-08-03 20:25:01] Eastbay : aint my first trollbox lol
[2016-08-03 20:25:52] jesperf : uh oh, we have ourselves an experienced troll here
[2016-08-03 20:26:02] BitMEX_Greg : Eastbay: Yes we encourage all new users to the platform to read and understand the guides. Anything that is confusing please give us a shout here. If you want to put some test positions on too then try out the testnet
[2016-08-03 20:31:23] tiny_knob : hi everyone
[2016-08-03 20:31:40] tiny_knob : bitmex admin how do we get a special coin added here?
[2016-08-03 20:33:09] elmorte : What's the name of the coin?
[2016-08-03 20:37:21] Chimpindeed : Knobcoin?
[2016-08-03 20:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 26 @ 0.004816
[2016-08-03 20:38:29] Skitrx : possible head and shoulders on huobi
[2016-08-03 20:39:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 560 @ 0.004745
[2016-08-03 20:39:25] jesperf : knees and toe knees and toe!
[2016-08-03 20:39:45] elmorte : jesperf: haha...you have a kid too?