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[2016-08-02 21:43:27] MrRGnome : I think the most likely thing to happen is this halving bubble is ended, we'll consolidate at a much lower price for a number of months, and I expect another bubble within the year, maybe sooner.
[2016-08-02 21:44:03] ax : wouldnt the exchange have to knowingly break KYC/AML laws to let an attacker cash out to an obviously fake identity?
[2016-08-02 21:44:33] BitMEX_Sam : That would create an opportunity to track the person, yes... if an attacker negotiates he opens himself up big time
[2016-08-02 21:45:00] Lorix : ax: Which is why fractional spinoff is the likely route
[2016-08-02 21:45:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 99260 @ 556.08 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-08-02 21:45:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 200 @ 555.65
[2016-08-02 21:46:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 555.47
[2016-08-02 21:46:12] jesperf : rapidtrades must be out partying, he told me to short bitcoin more
[2016-08-02 21:46:14] jesperf : I didn't
[2016-08-02 21:46:27] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Sam: Knowing as you guys do that leveraged exchanges like yours are the likely profit vehicle for hackers speculating before their heists - do you ever run any correlation checking algorithms to help identify possible attackers? Or is that anti-thetical to your hands off approach?
[2016-08-02 21:46:53] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: I really can't comment on that sort of thing
[2016-08-02 21:47:04] MrRGnome : That's fair enough.
[2016-08-02 21:48:12] Lorix : MrRGnome: Leveraging is more where the money is in this sort of situation
[2016-08-02 21:49:03] Lorix : MrRGnome: A hacker just places whatever leverage he likes just before he does his thing. Then cashes out the "clean" profits and still have the stolen BTC for later
[2016-08-02 21:50:26] jesperf : you mean like the ETC fork?
[2016-08-02 21:50:27] jesperf : :D
[2016-08-02 21:50:32] MrRGnome : Yeah, i know that @Lorix . it's possible for trading platforms to run algorithms that check for unusual trading activity and correlations to hacks on other exchange. These algorithms can identify potential suspects for criminal investigation purposes.
[2016-08-02 21:50:33] CrazyEarner : I see etc going to 0.01 shortly
[2016-08-02 21:50:57] MrRGnome : CrazyEarner: It better not. It better not even try. I'll cry.
[2016-08-02 21:50:59] jesperf : CrazyEarner: that's crazy talk. I see it going to 0.001
[2016-08-02 21:51:29] CrazyEarner : MrRGnome: why are you at a loss?
[2016-08-02 21:51:54] MrRGnome : Yeah I am, I put myself in a bad bad spot and didn't see this speculative etc bubble being what it is
[2016-08-02 21:52:01] MrRGnome : Made the mistake of trading on fundamentals
[2016-08-02 21:52:25] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: estimated liquidation price is not working when you use cross margin?
[2016-08-02 21:52:28] CrazyEarner : Not good at all
[2016-08-02 21:52:37] MrRGnome : I've been cost averaging shorts since 0.0038, currently I'm short at about 0.0055
[2016-08-02 21:52:59] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: Haven't had any issues
[2016-08-02 21:53:16] Lorix : MrRGnome: Yep, but a smart hacker doesn't necessarily have to be a greedy one and fly under the radar. Still, you make a valid point
[2016-08-02 21:53:40] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: it gives me values of infinity or zero, depending on short or long
[2016-08-02 21:53:47] MrRGnome : Lorix: Oh yeah it's no for sure way to catch the bad guy, just a way to check for obvious suspects if the bad guy was dumb.
[2016-08-02 21:53:53] CrazyEarner : i did long untill 0.006 gone short till the last red and gone long again
[2016-08-02 21:54:07] MrRGnome : CrazyEarner: Well I'm jealous.
[2016-08-02 21:54:11] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: I mean before opening a position
[2016-08-02 21:54:26] CrazyEarner : You just need be right timing fella :)
[2016-08-02 21:54:55] CrazyEarner : made 30% on last drop down and in red by 5% now and creeping into green aagain
[2016-08-02 21:55:13] Lorix : MrRGnome: That said, hackers have gotten a lot smarter in recent years. Also, given the amount involved this is going to be all over the mainstream business news in the next 48 hours
[2016-08-02 21:55:34] MrRGnome : Yeah, we are likely to see another round of selling before consolidation sad to say
[2016-08-02 21:55:49] MrRGnome : That news is going to be killer in the next 24 hours
[2016-08-02 21:56:04] Lorix : MrRGnome: Selling and/or flight to altcoins
[2016-08-02 21:56:24] BitMEX_Sam : jesperf: depending on the size of your position, that number may be correct
[2016-08-02 21:56:28] BitMEX_Sam : It is just an estimate, though
[2016-08-02 21:57:13] jesperf : BitMEX_Sam: but it's the same, no matter what order quantity I throw at it
[2016-08-02 21:58:19] justinlooking : jesperf: u r the chosen one
[2016-08-02 21:58:29] justinlooking : bitcoin's own PPT
[2016-08-02 21:58:32] BTCVIX : brace yourselves gentlemen
[2016-08-02 21:58:43] MrRGnome : *braces*
[2016-08-02 21:58:47] BTCVIX : thankfully bitmex is still up
[2016-08-02 21:59:37] jordanbitfort : what will market effect be when bfx comes back? major dumpage?
[2016-08-02 22:00:11] MrRGnome : I've always really appreciated this sites reliability and account security practices. I only wish they would allow me to hold a necessary multisig key to withdraw in any way. Avoid keeping the authority to transfer coins themselves so they don't end up like bfx
[2016-08-02 22:01:15] mike1000 : BitMEX_Sam: today on ETC with 5x levrg estimated liq. price was like 2x different than real liq. price after buy-in, ~3500 vs 4100 for long pos, how is that?
[2016-08-02 22:02:08] zanza : were you on cross or isolated?
[2016-08-02 22:02:29] wurstgelee : how is the index for XBT calculated atm?
[2016-08-02 22:02:34] mike1000 : isolated 5x
[2016-08-02 22:02:49] wurstgelee : nvm
[2016-08-02 22:04:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10 @ 553.41
[2016-08-02 22:04:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 211000 @ 552.45 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-02 22:04:41] zanza : holy fc today
[2016-08-02 22:04:48] zanza : is a day for the memories
[2016-08-02 22:04:55] dasdfasdf : what is happening
[2016-08-02 22:05:14] MrRGnome : bfx hack/speculative bubble on etc
[2016-08-02 22:06:50] wurstgelee : such fun for trading, so much drama as well
[2016-08-02 22:07:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 551.68
[2016-08-02 22:07:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 11500 @ 551.40
[2016-08-02 22:07:29] MrRGnome : pretty stressful trading if you're in the red, but some huge opportunities out there.
[2016-08-02 22:07:36] johndoe : man, 5am already, but how can you go asleep on day like this
[2016-08-02 22:07:55] mike1000 : so many rekts, everyone's having fun all the way up to 50x
[2016-08-02 22:08:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 598 @ 596.34
[2016-08-02 22:08:15] zanza : should be Rollback Bitcoin? for finex hack
[2016-08-02 22:08:22] wurstgelee : ofc
[2016-08-02 22:08:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 5181 @ 596.10
[2016-08-02 22:08:26] MrRGnome : Someone assure me that etc will crash at some point soon so I can blame them if it doesn't instead of myself.
[2016-08-02 22:08:37] wurstgelee : trading post-fork BTCC will be awesome
[2016-08-02 22:08:51] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: 1:2 first
[2016-08-02 22:08:55] wurstgelee : then crash maybe
[2016-08-02 22:08:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-08-02 22:09:56] MrRGnome : =( I only need it to visit 0.005. Then you can go back to bubble, I promise.
[2016-08-02 22:09:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 10000 @ 594.05
[2016-08-02 22:10:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1480 @ 547.78
[2016-08-02 22:10:18] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: i doubt it, btc down, etc up
[2016-08-02 22:10:21] wurstgelee : its simple as that
[2016-08-02 22:10:24] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-08-02 22:10:36] CrazyEarner : Would be intresting if ETC goes past btc value
[2016-08-02 22:10:41] wurstgelee : haha
[2016-08-02 22:10:52] wurstgelee : not happening but funny thought
[2016-08-02 22:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 547.34 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 22:11:43] mike1000 : early this year there were predictions of #200 for ETH, bwfore all the forking
[2016-08-02 22:11:43] MrRGnome : I can't imagine etc having any fundamental value at all until it has some significant development behind it and eth has fallen much more in hash rate. This is all just speculative gambling IMO, and I expect it to switch directions at some point.
[2016-08-02 22:11:46] CrazyEarner : well if volume on eth keeps crashing and increasing on etc who knows
[2016-08-02 22:12:05] CrazyEarner : yeah everyone moving hash over
[2016-08-02 22:12:13] zanza : Manual withdrawal like BitMEX is the way to go
[2016-08-02 22:12:14] CrazyEarner : and theris no apps that work on any of them
[2016-08-02 22:12:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 545.03 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 22:12:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4 @ 545.08 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 22:12:26] zanza : why risk so many eggs in 1 basket with automated withdrawal?
[2016-08-02 22:12:28] CrazyEarner : HERE COME THE 6S AGAIN :)
[2016-08-02 22:12:45] MrRGnome : naaahhhh Crazy, you crazy.
[2016-08-02 22:13:01] CrazyEarner : I dont get the name for nadda lol
[2016-08-02 22:13:40] CrazyEarner : had loads peope ask to buy my bitcointalk account had crazy offers for it being one on somones birthday and 2 different lol
[2016-08-02 22:13:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 199 @ 588.79
[2016-08-02 22:14:10] CrazyEarner : 50 satoshi more to 6s
[2016-08-02 22:14:29] CrazyEarner : or point lol 1500 contract do i gobble lol
[2016-08-02 22:14:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 541.83 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 22:14:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12740 @ 540.93
[2016-08-02 22:14:47] wurstgelee : ouch btc
[2016-08-02 22:14:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 36000 @ 539.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 22:14:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 232 @ 539.80
[2016-08-02 22:15:02] CrazyEarner : BTC price was expected to tank down again
[2016-08-02 22:15:19] wurstgelee : ofc, i am not unhappy about it atm
[2016-08-02 22:15:20] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-08-02 22:15:21] CrazyEarner : 3 years happend before and 4th on its rise for dump on value before it goes back up
[2016-08-02 22:15:49] CrazyEarner : I just bought more BTC and put in here and almost 3x what i bought now so am happy for etc to make it possible
[2016-08-02 22:16:13] wurstgelee : speaking of which
[2016-08-02 22:16:18] MrRGnome : I've seen so many conflicting reports of the stolen volume at this point, anyone have anything concrete?
[2016-08-02 22:16:22] wurstgelee : going up again
[2016-08-02 22:16:38] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: up to 125k btc
[2016-08-02 22:16:51] wurstgelee : ~ 75m $
[2016-08-02 22:17:27] MrRGnome : That number is derived from the observation of emptied p2h addresses right?
[2016-08-02 22:17:34] CrazyEarner : MrRGnome: Ignore them and do whats right make own judgemet and see other news too I read the bitmex eport before for etc loved it
[2016-08-02 22:18:16] CrazyEarner : BitMEX_Sam: Loved the reports you guys sent out before summed up etc eth and dao to a T
[2016-08-02 22:18:34] BitMEX_Sam : CrazyEarner: :+1:
[2016-08-02 22:18:47] BitMEX_Sam : mike1000: Looking into that calculation
[2016-08-02 22:19:47] wurstgelee : MrRGnome: derived from Bitgo wallret transactions today
[2016-08-02 22:20:07] MrRGnome : wurstgelee: thanks
[2016-08-02 22:20:54] CrazyEarner : BitMEX_Sam: Will Bitmex ever do fiat currency cashout options in fture or sticking to as is
[2016-08-02 22:21:22] BitMEX_Sam : CrazyEarner: Unlikely to do fiat for quite some time
[2016-08-02 22:21:26] zanza : not for a while i would guess
[2016-08-02 22:21:43] zanza : BitMEX_Sam: how awful is Bitfinex programm/coding team, on a scale of 1-7 ?
[2016-08-02 22:21:44] BitMEX_Sam : It adds very significant complexity to the business and we want to maintain focus
[2016-08-02 22:21:59] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: π
[2016-08-02 22:22:03] zanza : :)
[2016-08-02 22:22:30] zanza : Finex should have just bought this site a while back
[2016-08-02 22:22:37] zanza : they do so much volume
[2016-08-02 22:23:09] zanza : and manual withdrawal once per day is so much more secure
[2016-08-02 22:23:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 9900 @ 539.11
[2016-08-02 22:23:30] MrRGnome : zanza: It's not really... It wouldn't protect from the bfx kind of attack
[2016-08-02 22:23:37] MrRGnome : It helps with account breaches
[2016-08-02 22:23:44] MrRGnome : But not private key theft and server compromise
[2016-08-02 22:23:59] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: It does, actually, since there are not private keys on any server
[2016-08-02 22:24:09] justinlooking : i'd like to think keys are air gapped at min here
[2016-08-02 22:24:11] MrRGnome : How is that possible? @BitMEX_Sam
[2016-08-02 22:24:28] MrRGnome : How do you sign transactions? Entirely offline? So only way to steal would be an inside job?
[2016-08-02 22:24:31] BitMEX_Sam : All withdrawals must be manually approved by a majority of partners. Even if someone were to compromise our database, our internal risk checks & audits would immediately uncover any tinkering with balances or positions
[2016-08-02 22:24:34] wurstgelee : sign transaction on offline pc
[2016-08-02 22:24:38] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: Yes, entirely offline, inside job is the only way
[2016-08-02 22:25:09] BitMEX_Sam : People ask us all the time why we do withdrawals only 1x per day - today is a perfect example of why
[2016-08-02 22:25:43] MrRGnome : Very neat. Thanks @BitMEX_Sam . Have you ever considered giving your users one of those private keys? I sure would feel good knowing no one could steal my funds without a key I held
[2016-08-02 22:26:04] jesperf : security > convenience
[2016-08-02 22:26:12] justinlooking : key management is hard
[2016-08-02 22:26:12] BitMEX_Sam : It wouldn't do much good without a very complex nlocktime-style setup where the second signature would unlock itself after a period
[2016-08-02 22:26:18] kogroken : BitMEX_Sam: Really appreciate your security model, thanks for taking the time to handle things manually
[2016-08-02 22:26:22] BitMEX_Sam : It still wouldn't protect you from an insider job
[2016-08-02 22:26:45] BitMEX_Sam : If we went the nlocktime route, we'd have to manually and time-consumingly rotate keys before the time expired while we were still solvent
[2016-08-02 22:26:59] BitMEX_Sam : Which itself would become a large potential point of exploitation as we would effectively be signing all addresses at once
[2016-08-02 22:28:02] BitMEX_Sam : Suppose a theoretical 2-of-2 multisig setup where the customer held one key, and the user held the other - this would have serious problems as soon as any trades executed
[2016-08-02 22:28:03] MrRGnome : Yeah nlocktime that's a bad solution obviously. It sounds like you're somewhat hamstrung by your current holding setup all using the same keys, making any kind of substantial restructuring not worth the limited gain.
[2016-08-02 22:28:16] BitMEX_Sam : Let's say customer A goes long, customer B goes short, and customer A loses all his money to B
[2016-08-02 22:28:27] BitMEX_Sam : A decides not to sign any txs so he doesn't lose his BTC
[2016-08-02 22:28:50] BitMEX_Sam : So that couldn't work as a 2-of-2 system. A 2-of-3 system where the exchange holds both keys means yet again, you just have to trust the exchange
[2016-08-02 22:28:55] MrRGnome : I would imagine that the act of commiting a trade would necessarily require a transaction with your pk if that was the setup
[2016-08-02 22:29:29] BitMEX_Sam : Believe me, if there were a way we could wash our hands of the risk of holding customer deposits, we would. We do the best we can, and for us that means at least two sets of eyes on every withdrawal.
[2016-08-02 22:30:17] MrRGnome : Well it seems to work well.
[2016-08-02 22:30:25] MrRGnome : We appreciate your dilligence.
[2016-08-02 22:30:52] zanza : yeah, hold your ground with once per day slow withdrawal. Even longer time wouldn't even be a bad idea
[2016-08-02 22:31:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 20 @ 0.01453
[2016-08-02 22:31:10] zanza : you can never underestimate the cleveness of hacker
[2016-08-02 22:31:31] JorgeR : Jesus, it's like someone threw BTC in a blender
[2016-08-02 22:31:59] MrRGnome : I like the slow withdrawal, protects a lot from account breach. I just wish that in a perfect world with a perfect blockchain I'd be able to hold a key to my unleveraged and untraded holdings.
[2016-08-02 22:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 8222 @ 582.68
[2016-08-02 22:34:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 536.11
[2016-08-02 22:34:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30 @ 534.33
[2016-08-02 22:35:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 220 @ 573.77
[2016-08-02 22:35:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 131 @ 528.60
[2016-08-02 22:35:53] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2016-08-02 22:36:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5000 @ 528.14
[2016-08-02 22:36:51] ax : feels pretty bad to be wiped out. dunno if i should buy back into bitcoin, so expensive now
[2016-08-02 22:37:19] wurstgelee : wiped out due to finex?
[2016-08-02 22:37:27] ax : nah got too gambly
[2016-08-02 22:37:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 500 @ 0.005462
[2016-08-02 22:37:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.005529
[2016-08-02 22:37:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.005451
[2016-08-02 22:38:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.005356
[2016-08-02 22:38:05] sharpie0101 : bitcoin price always been volitile
[2016-08-02 22:38:15] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-08-02 22:38:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 7486 @ 0.005093
[2016-08-02 22:38:23] wurstgelee : everything dumping ladies and gentlemen
[2016-08-02 22:38:23] CrazyEarner : here somes the shorts
[2016-08-02 22:38:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 700 @ 0.005071
[2016-08-02 22:38:34] CrazyEarner : MrRGnome: ill make you happy :P
[2016-08-02 22:38:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 140 @ 0.005033
[2016-08-02 22:39:37] zanza : ETC is pure rollercoaster
[2016-08-02 22:39:41] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-08-02 22:39:47] wurstgelee : catched a knife at 51 tho
[2016-08-02 22:39:49] justinlooking : lollercoaster
[2016-08-02 22:39:54] zanza : Poloniex peeps going insane over this
[2016-08-02 22:39:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 4886 @ 530.79
[2016-08-02 22:40:12] rapidtrades : finex lost 100k bitcoins
[2016-08-02 22:40:14] rapidtrades : not kidding
[2016-08-02 22:40:27] zanza : yea, they will probably be shutting down
[2016-08-02 22:40:31] ax : 119,756btc.
[2016-08-02 22:40:34] ax : jezus
[2016-08-02 22:40:34] zanza : can't really recover from that
[2016-08-02 22:40:39] rapidtrades : nope
[2016-08-02 22:40:50] zanza : get ready for new influx BitMEX_Sam
[2016-08-02 22:41:07] rapidtrades : fuck
[2016-08-02 22:41:10] wurstgelee : ax: ouch
[2016-08-02 22:41:15] rapidtrades : fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccl
[2016-08-02 22:41:26] wurstgelee : ax: so yours were the massive liquidated longs here?
[2016-08-02 22:41:32] wurstgelee : btc longs?
[2016-08-02 22:41:35] sharpie0101 : in 2013 bitcion lost 300 usd in about 10 days
[2016-08-02 22:41:48] sharpie0101 : were at 100 in about 3 days
[2016-08-02 22:41:49] jesperf : rapidtrades: no party?
[2016-08-02 22:42:00] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: confirmed?
[2016-08-02 22:42:04] rapidtrades : how is that possible man
[2016-08-02 22:42:04] ayy_lmao : 120k btc confirmed
[2016-08-02 22:42:07] ax : not super massive, wasnt a whale or anything, but always played with 10ish btc
[2016-08-02 22:42:10] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: link?
[2016-08-02 22:42:13] ayy_lmao : https://t.co/SINMfi4zqf
[2016-08-02 22:42:24] ayy_lmao : rekt
[2016-08-02 22:42:26] rapidtrades : this is a disaster
[2016-08-02 22:43:32] ax : wurstgelee: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4vtv1m/bitfinex_down_due_to_bitcoin_security_breach/d61ofzt
[2016-08-02 22:43:43] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-08-02 22:43:44] wurstgelee : thanks
[2016-08-02 22:43:46] wurstgelee : and ouch
[2016-08-02 22:44:07] ax : the first insider conspiracy posts have showed up already
[2016-08-02 22:44:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 12200 @ 53906.0
[2016-08-02 22:44:17] rapidtrades : bitstamp lost 20k last year and recovered....but that was only 5 mil at the time
[2016-08-02 22:44:23] rapidtrades : not FIFTY
[2016-08-02 22:44:57] rapidtrades : how much btc do they have
[2016-08-02 22:45:05] mike1000 : now it gets back to lower vlauation )
[2016-08-02 22:45:33] jesperf : this seriously puts back my lambo purchases
[2016-08-02 22:45:49] muirtastic : Bitfinex: I can confirm that the loss from the hack stands at 119,756btc.
[2016-08-02 22:46:18] ax : guess I should deposit some money after all to pick up some cheap coins as this drama unfolds
[2016-08-02 22:46:27] ax : but given my luck, this will be the one time bitcoin actually dies
[2016-08-02 22:46:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 252 @ 0.004953
[2016-08-02 22:46:58] sharpie0101 : i don't see why it is effecting the whole btc price
[2016-08-02 22:47:07] sharpie0101 : it's not like et
[2016-08-02 22:47:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1287 @ 0.004830
[2016-08-02 22:47:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1030 @ 0.004860
[2016-08-02 22:47:09] rapidtrades : shut up sharpie
[2016-08-02 22:47:18] sharpie0101 : it was finex that fucked up
[2016-08-02 22:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 200 @ 0.004750
[2016-08-02 22:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 415 @ 0.004742
[2016-08-02 22:47:32] sharpie0101 : core bitcoin if completely unrelated
[2016-08-02 22:47:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 450 @ 0.004620
[2016-08-02 22:47:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 449 @ 0.004616
[2016-08-02 22:47:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 700 @ 0.004622
[2016-08-02 22:47:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 31741 @ 0.004652 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 22:47:51] sharpie0101 : is*
[2016-08-02 22:47:52] rapidtrades : it's the biggest USD exchange
[2016-08-02 22:48:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2765 @ 0.004528
[2016-08-02 22:48:19] justinlooking : MrRGnome: u good?
[2016-08-02 22:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 100 @ 0.004406
[2016-08-02 22:48:49] rapidtrades : anyone has guessestimate on how much are total btc finex holds
[2016-08-02 22:48:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1500 @ 0.004341
[2016-08-02 22:48:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2552 @ 0.004359
[2016-08-02 22:49:11] jesperf : burn etc burn
[2016-08-02 22:49:23] sharpie0101 : also when did that happen, cause the intitial crash started 2 days ago at 10pm eastern time
[2016-08-02 22:49:37] ax : today
[2016-08-02 22:49:47] sharpie0101 : so it's unrelated
[2016-08-02 22:49:49] rapidtrades : sharpie plz....ur like 5 hrs late with these qs
[2016-08-02 22:50:16] subjective : Said day to wake up
[2016-08-02 22:50:19] sharpie0101 : you guys are speculating on some shitty site getting hacked, yeah that caused everyone to sell and price to decline 100 usd
[2016-08-02 22:50:24] sharpie0101 : OKAY
[2016-08-02 22:50:49] rapidtrades : im surprised we're not sub-500 given the hack size
[2016-08-02 22:50:59] sharpie0101 : you're an idiot
[2016-08-02 22:51:05] sharpie0101 : it will go sub 500
[2016-08-02 22:51:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1463 @ 525.87
[2016-08-02 22:51:19] sharpie0101 : it's just overspeculation for the block halving
[2016-08-02 22:51:38] sharpie0101 : price was infalted this whole year becaues of the block chain reward halving
[2016-08-02 22:51:45] rapidtrades : if u say so jewboi
[2016-08-02 22:51:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 521.84
[2016-08-02 22:52:22] sharpie0101 : just took till end of month for stupid chinese miners to have to find out they can't pay electric bill
[2016-08-02 22:52:48] ethexio : Wew lads
[2016-08-02 22:53:26] sharpie0101 : reward price wasn't linear correlated to feasiblity of mining
[2016-08-02 22:53:27] MrRGnome : I got out! Made a killing! I love you all! now I get to sleep
[2016-08-02 22:53:27] zanza : ETC doing 40% price swings like nothing
[2016-08-02 22:53:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 12000 @ 521.07
[2016-08-02 22:54:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 31 @ 518.88
[2016-08-02 22:55:16] CrazyEarner : MrRGnome: night mate :) glad you got your %%%%% :)
[2016-08-02 22:55:35] JorgeR : Oh my GOD. What is going on!?
[2016-08-02 22:55:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1950 @ 515.08
[2016-08-02 22:56:10] zanza : holy fk 120k BTC hack
[2016-08-02 22:56:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15000 @ 514.13
[2016-08-02 22:56:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 218 @ 514.30
[2016-08-02 22:56:26] RoftheN : How much was Mt Gox?
[2016-08-02 22:56:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1700 @ 509.34
[2016-08-02 22:56:44] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 36831 @ 508.35 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 22:56:51] zanza : hard to say, becasue MagicTux was running a ponzi probably
[2016-08-02 22:56:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 192000 @ 507.54 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-02 22:56:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7 @ 505.93
[2016-08-02 22:56:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 506.22
[2016-08-02 22:57:00] RoftheN : OUCH
[2016-08-02 22:57:05] zanza : hello DPE
[2016-08-02 22:57:21] CrazyEarner : btc going to 300s and below
[2016-08-02 22:57:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20 @ 502.87
[2016-08-02 22:57:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22793 @ 503.78 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 22:57:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 501.65
[2016-08-02 22:58:06] sharpie0101 : it's natural price (minus btc block reward halving speculatory inflation) is around 260
[2016-08-02 22:58:08] RoftheN : 120000 BTC is nothing compared to Mt Gox
[2016-08-02 22:58:13] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13000 @ 501.19
[2016-08-02 22:58:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 185921 @ 500.10 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-02 22:58:23] ax : blood
[2016-08-02 22:58:35] jesperf : and feces
[2016-08-02 22:58:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 200 @ 537.38
[2016-08-02 22:58:54] ax : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-lfowevqA
[2016-08-02 22:58:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 494.59
[2016-08-02 22:58:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 493.24
[2016-08-02 22:58:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 250 @ 494.63
[2016-08-02 22:59:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15951 @ 492.01
[2016-08-02 22:59:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 85 @ 490.65
[2016-08-02 22:59:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 14405 @ 528.92
[2016-08-02 22:59:38] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 27545 @ 0.005369 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 22:59:44] zanza : RIP
[2016-08-02 22:59:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 2 @ 528.01 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 22:59:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 50 @ 485.93
[2016-08-02 22:59:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2110 @ 485.82
[2016-08-02 23:00:08] wurstgelee : holy fuck
[2016-08-02 23:00:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 395 @ 483.57
[2016-08-02 23:00:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 482.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 23:01:33] CaptainDean : so we hit 480
[2016-08-02 23:01:44] RoftheN : Why is mark price so low? ;-;
[2016-08-02 23:01:47] ax : btc-e 460
[2016-08-02 23:01:48] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 736 @ 484.53
[2016-08-02 23:01:50] ax : china 3k
[2016-08-02 23:01:56] sharpie0101 : goes to buy something with btc, that will be .5 btc wait 2 btc wait..
[2016-08-02 23:03:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7 @ 483.42
[2016-08-02 23:03:58] dasdfasdf : confirmed deposits not showing
[2016-08-02 23:03:58] rapidtrades : 'We need more time to fully access the situation and figure out how we can move forward'
[2016-08-02 23:04:19] dasdfasdf : finally
[2016-08-02 23:04:26] rapidtrades : bankruptcy an option imo
[2016-08-02 23:04:47] rapidtrades : prolly means if u got hacked, ur SOL
[2016-08-02 23:05:30] rapidtrades : i had most of my coins in my margin wallet, almost fully margined....could they have withdrawn that?
[2016-08-02 23:05:58] ax : yeah possibly
[2016-08-02 23:06:19] rapidtrades : how? finex says only wallets are affected not accounts
[2016-08-02 23:06:22] zanza : did they have insurance ?
[2016-08-02 23:06:23] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 5000 @ 496.36
[2016-08-02 23:06:34] rapidtrades : yea doesn't cover stupidity tho @zanza
[2016-08-02 23:06:40] ax : seems unlikely that the 120k would all have been deposited in one day
[2016-08-02 23:06:52] ax : so older funds must have been accessed
[2016-08-02 23:06:59] rapidtrades : 'We don't use cold storage and has stated as such ever since we implemented bitgo, we use segregated customer multi-sig wallets. We're still investigating how this happened and how our security measures were bypassed'
[2016-08-02 23:07:25] rapidtrades : i assumed everyone used cold storage...what retards
[2016-08-02 23:08:04] BitMEX_Greg : Well they trusted Bitgo
[2016-08-02 23:08:16] wurstgelee : this is bitcoin
[2016-08-02 23:08:20] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-02 23:08:23] ayy_lmao : trust
[2016-08-02 23:08:25] ax : the breach was not on bitgo though, it was on their end
[2016-08-02 23:08:25] ayy_lmao : in crypto
[2016-08-02 23:08:43] BitMEX_Sam : I wonder what the mechanism actually was - if they were signing with their one key and having BitGo automatically sign with an API token, it's effectively no different than a hot
[2016-08-02 23:09:03] rapidtrades : 125 THOUSAND BTC
[2016-08-02 23:09:26] wurstgelee : test
[2016-08-02 23:09:34] wurstgelee : this is bitcoin :D
[2016-08-02 23:09:35] BitMEX_Sam : pong
[2016-08-02 23:13:29] wurstgelee : nice spread @ xbtusd btw
[2016-08-02 23:13:30] wurstgelee : :P
[2016-08-02 23:13:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4820 @ 505.42
[2016-08-02 23:14:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5199 @ 0.005057
[2016-08-02 23:22:39] CrazyEarner : Time for some magic green candles again :)
[2016-08-02 23:23:47] Rado : rapidtrades: how many did you have in finex
[2016-08-02 23:23:50] aethlios : where do you read finex news?? twitter nothing.
[2016-08-02 23:24:01] Rado : I have 11 BTC
[2016-08-02 23:24:23] rapidtrades : Rado: more but not sure if I had it as USD or BTC before I margined it
[2016-08-02 23:24:25] vbmithr : aethlios: reddit
[2016-08-02 23:24:37] Rado : actually eait Inhave 17
[2016-08-02 23:24:43] aethlios : vbmithr: thanks but which channel??
[2016-08-02 23:24:52] RoftheN : Damn I have never lost as much as this in one day. Learned a lot though
[2016-08-02 23:25:01] Rado : i had them in BTC :(
[2016-08-02 23:25:07] rapidtrades : :(
[2016-08-02 23:25:12] vbmithr : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4vtv1m/bitfinex_down_due_to_bitcoin_security_breach/d61ofzt
[2016-08-02 23:25:27] jesperf : crypto gods giveth and taketh away
[2016-08-02 23:25:55] jesperf : omg that sneaky eth is hiding in those words
[2016-08-02 23:26:02] lockhedge : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2016-08-02 23:29:28] wurstgelee : lockhedge: There were limits in place to restrict the amount of btc that could be signed for a withdrawal, we're still trying to investigate how these limits were bypassed.
[2016-08-02 23:29:30] wurstgelee : inside job
[2016-08-02 23:29:42] zanza : defeintely
[2016-08-02 23:29:51] wurstgelee : priv keys stolen
[2016-08-02 23:29:53] zanza : enough value, and someone will figure out a way to hack it
[2016-08-02 23:29:55] wurstgelee : simple as that
[2016-08-02 23:30:09] TA : etc 530 on kraken and yunbi
[2016-08-02 23:30:18] TA : BTC
[2016-08-02 23:31:09] zanza : with this hack + full blocks/China/Core agreement
[2016-08-02 23:31:18] zanza : this could be start of a bear market
[2016-08-02 23:31:43] wurstgelee : maybe
[2016-08-02 23:31:54] wurstgelee : lets recover a bit first please, dont want to close my long yet
[2016-08-02 23:31:55] aethlios : I have above 100.000 usd in finex, lets see what happens.
[2016-08-02 23:31:56] wurstgelee : ;)
[2016-08-02 23:32:02] johndoe : can't imagine how many of us lost money today. only positive thing i can see is that bitmexs trading engine worked fast
[2016-08-02 23:32:08] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 21632 @ 515.19 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 23:32:10] wurstgelee : aethlios: sorry, but: *had
[2016-08-02 23:32:17] wurstgelee : too early probably :|
[2016-08-02 23:32:25] zanza : aethlios: fiat or btc?
[2016-08-02 23:32:30] zanza : fiat is safe afaik
[2016-08-02 23:32:30] wurstgelee : oh right
[2016-08-02 23:32:35] wurstgelee : fiat would be ok
[2016-08-02 23:32:45] wurstgelee : he said usd tho...
[2016-08-02 23:32:52] aethlios : zanza: 40% fiat, 60% btc
[2016-08-02 23:32:53] zanza : but you probably wn't be able to withdrawl for a while
[2016-08-02 23:33:03] zanza : only BTC hacked
[2016-08-02 23:33:51] aethlios : zanza: few hoyrs before claimed 5000 etc to transfer to polo. thise I hope to survive
[2016-08-02 23:35:07] aethlios : zanza: maybe they haircut all customers proportionally, they could give to customers free commission until recover loses.,
[2016-08-02 23:35:20] Gekko : Back to 600...
[2016-08-02 23:36:41] wurstgelee : 1m liquidation order ahead ;)
[2016-08-02 23:37:09] rapidtrades : niceee
[2016-08-02 23:38:11] wurstgelee : btce 535 again
[2016-08-02 23:38:49] rapidtrades : yeah that's fishy
[2016-08-02 23:39:16] BitMEX_Greg : Guys, what do you think about having Kraken BTC/USD as part of the index?
[2016-08-02 23:39:33] wurstgelee : whats the index atm'?
[2016-08-02 23:39:35] BitMEX_Greg : We are trying to prepare for post-finex
[2016-08-02 23:39:37] wurstgelee : right now
[2016-08-02 23:39:38] wurstgelee : ?
[2016-08-02 23:39:43] wurstgelee : ah ok..long term
[2016-08-02 23:39:49] BitMEX_Greg : It was 50% finex, 25% okcoin and 25% bitstamp basically
[2016-08-02 23:39:54] BitMEX_Greg : now its 50% stamp and OKC
[2016-08-02 23:39:56] wurstgelee : are there any alternatives to kraken? real ones?
[2016-08-02 23:39:59] wurstgelee : not gemini....
[2016-08-02 23:40:06] lockhedge : itbit
[2016-08-02 23:40:12] wurstgelee : mh
[2016-08-02 23:40:17] BitMEX_Greg : I dont think itbit will be around much longer either
[2016-08-02 23:40:27] rapidtrades : greaaaat
[2016-08-02 23:40:30] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: its all ok, finex said they will refund everyone :p
[2016-08-02 23:40:34] BitMEX_Arthur : We don't service US persons, so having a US only exchange might not be the best
[2016-08-02 23:40:46] rapidtrades : agree
[2016-08-02 23:40:55] BitMEX_Greg : Haha yeah when BTC goes to 0 they will refund everyone bitcoin
[2016-08-02 23:40:56] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Arthur: as index it doesnt really matter, does it?
[2016-08-02 23:41:01] jesperf : kraken is as real as they come, so I'd say include it in the index even if they're low volume
[2016-08-02 23:41:01] Rado : Kraken is good imo
[2016-08-02 23:41:03] wurstgelee : where the exchange is located?
[2016-08-02 23:41:09] BitMEX_Greg : It depends what traders use as a hedge for our products
[2016-08-02 23:41:11] wurstgelee : volume should matter
[2016-08-02 23:41:12] wurstgelee : =)
[2016-08-02 23:41:12] miramm1115 : BitMEX_Greg: please no
[2016-08-02 23:41:25] 1QaZxSw2 : damn mempool is so full, my deposit is not confirming
[2016-08-02 23:41:39] Rado : they have decent volume
[2016-08-02 23:41:53] wurstgelee : 1QaZxSw2: generous fees help :)
[2016-08-02 23:42:18] 1QaZxSw2 : wurstgelee: damn wallet doesnt let me set fee
[2016-08-02 23:42:27] 1QaZxSw2 : it calculates its own
[2016-08-02 23:42:36] wurstgelee : who wants to snatch cheap 1m XBTUSD contracts? ;)
[2016-08-02 23:42:56] rapidtrades : they're not 'cheap'
[2016-08-02 23:43:17] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2016-08-02 23:43:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 4500 @ 0.004969
[2016-08-02 23:43:37] j8 : hey guys
[2016-08-02 23:43:51] justinlooking : yo!
[2016-08-02 23:43:53] j8 : some day we're having here
[2016-08-02 23:44:39] wurstgelee : i come on guys, only 1m left
[2016-08-02 23:44:44] wurstgelee : *-i
[2016-08-02 23:44:58] wurstgelee : 8)
[2016-08-02 23:45:50] dasdfasdf : lets see how long bitmex takes to process block...
[2016-08-02 23:47:12] wurstgelee : dasdfasdf: ?
[2016-08-02 23:47:16] wurstgelee : a second maybe
[2016-08-02 23:47:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: Buy 3000 @ 55667.0
[2016-08-02 23:47:37] wurstgelee : but thats not what u wanted to say i guess
[2016-08-02 23:48:33] TA : market price BTC 540 again :)
[2016-08-02 23:48:54] TA : on other exchanges
[2016-08-02 23:49:02] TA : seems like a good buy here
[2016-08-02 23:49:19] ayy_lmao : we are lagging because of big unfillled liquidation
[2016-08-02 23:49:20] CaptainDean : minus the hyge wall
[2016-08-02 23:49:25] CaptainDean : huge*
[2016-08-02 23:49:41] wurstgelee : ah fuck it, i might add some to my long
[2016-08-02 23:51:49] muirtastic : i just did
[2016-08-02 23:53:10] Skitrx : wall guy is a dick
[2016-08-02 23:53:20] rapidtrades : wtf....
[2016-08-02 23:53:31] rapidtrades : WHAT THE FUCKK
[2016-08-02 23:53:44] ayy_lmao : lol @ liq order moving
[2016-08-02 23:53:46] ayy_lmao : up
[2016-08-02 23:54:27] haxmb : how is it moving up
[2016-08-02 23:54:28] haxmb : wtf
[2016-08-02 23:54:58] wurstgelee : half way gone
[2016-08-02 23:55:17] ayy_lmao : went from 521 to 529 back down to 523
[2016-08-02 23:55:21] wurstgelee : lolz
[2016-08-02 23:55:23] wurstgelee : dunno
[2016-08-02 23:55:26] wurstgelee : ask bitmex admins
[2016-08-02 23:55:35] wurstgelee : its a liquidation order ;)
[2016-08-02 23:55:41] wurstgelee : aand its gone
[2016-08-02 23:55:55] lockhedge : nice
[2016-08-02 23:56:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 200 @ 578.82
[2016-08-02 23:57:04] wurstgelee : well done @ everyone who bought a bit
[2016-08-02 23:57:06] wurstgelee : free money ;)
[2016-08-02 23:58:16] wurstgelee : finex 540
[2016-08-02 23:58:19] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTU16`: Buy 161 @ 581.95
[2016-08-02 23:58:35] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: FINEX IS GONE MAN
[2016-08-02 23:58:41] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-08-02 23:58:41] ayy_lmao : rip
[2016-08-02 23:58:42] wurstgelee : ofc it is
[2016-08-02 23:58:43] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-08-02 23:58:46] wurstgelee : and?
[2016-08-02 23:58:55] wurstgelee : it sucks ofc, but personally i am not affected
[2016-08-02 23:59:17] rapidtrades : wurstgelee: finex 540
[2016-08-02 23:59:20] zanza : RIP sweet prince
[2016-08-02 23:59:26] wurstgelee : rapidtrades: oh lol
[2016-08-02 23:59:27] wurstgelee : reflex
[2016-08-02 23:59:31] wurstgelee : wanted to type stamp
[2016-08-03 00:00:41] wurstgelee : 545 even
[2016-08-03 00:01:13] wurstgelee : yet here people are selling for 514
[2016-08-03 00:01:14] wurstgelee : lol
[2016-08-03 00:01:32] wurstgelee : wtf is wrong with you?
[2016-08-03 00:01:48] wotan : what a day man just wow
[2016-08-03 00:02:29] guembesn : Why the fuck is the price of the swap so low !?
[2016-08-03 00:02:59] wurstgelee : guembesn: fear
[2016-08-03 00:03:04] ayy_lmao : because people here are scared yah
[2016-08-03 00:03:15] guembesn : capitulated
[2016-08-03 00:03:21] wurstgelee : scared af