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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2016-08-02 18:43:43] bernx : All btc long here still not liq. WIll be very soon
[2016-08-02 18:44:03] PatioCrasher : Some peoples wallets have been drained apparently and some not
[2016-08-02 18:44:14] MrRGnome : BTCDJS how do you know only .5%?
[2016-08-02 18:44:45] PatioCrasher : "–]vessenes [score hidden] 6 minutes ago I just checked my account at bitfinex, the bitgo wallet had most of the coins removed at 2:25 AM, I presume pacific time from the report. They were sent to a non-Bitgo address. "
[2016-08-02 18:44:51] BTCDJS : collin crypto on twitter tweeted it
[2016-08-02 18:45:00] Kra : rapidtrades: so? waht means? price bitmex + price finex / 2
[2016-08-02 18:45:02] Kra : ?
[2016-08-02 18:45:27] rapidtrades : means they're working on a fix....mark will come down soon-ish
[2016-08-02 18:45:48] BTCDJS : "leading reports saying Bitfinex lost 0.5% of total BTC" @MrRGnome
[2016-08-02 18:45:58] rapidtrades : not that bad then
[2016-08-02 18:46:01] yerb : BitMEX_Sam: please change spot price to bitstamp, i dont want to be liquidated in profit
[2016-08-02 18:46:24] sharpie0101 : and it's gone
[2016-08-02 18:46:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 320 @ 591.35
[2016-08-02 18:46:35] sharpie0101 : im sorry this lines for customers who have money
[2016-08-02 18:46:56] laisee : ... and its gone
[2016-08-02 18:47:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 4959 @ 0.01656
[2016-08-02 18:47:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 740 @ 589.87
[2016-08-02 18:47:45] BTCDJS : ETC I love you
[2016-08-02 18:47:56] tscha : mtgox 2
[2016-08-02 18:48:14] zanza : ETC wtf
[2016-08-02 18:48:16] BTCDJS : nah its not that bad @tscha only 0.5% lost
[2016-08-02 18:48:27] tscha : good, because I have some coins on there
[2016-08-02 18:48:53] rapidtrades : if you're affected u could lose 100% lol
[2016-08-02 18:48:55] BTCDJS : only BTC affected
[2016-08-02 18:49:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 33 @ 0.01651
[2016-08-02 18:49:08] rapidtrades : which is everyone
[2016-08-02 18:49:14] bernx : They said about 0.5%, but tons of tweets about there stolen ALL funds from tons of account
[2016-08-02 18:49:17] sharpie0101 : but that is a fault with their dum selves not bitcoin
[2016-08-02 18:49:21] laisee : lost my rent money due tomorrow.
[2016-08-02 18:49:27] tscha : 0.5% is the same amount they lost at their last breach I think
[2016-08-02 18:49:29] zanza : BTC = safe haven
[2016-08-02 18:49:35] zanza : ETH i mean
[2016-08-02 18:49:39] zanza : ETC damn i suck
[2016-08-02 18:49:53] BTCDJS : tscha: probably the small % of people who don't 2FA
[2016-08-02 18:50:13] Mangalica : safe haven lol
[2016-08-02 18:50:22] tscha : on reddit, it sounded like they lost more than 0.5%
[2016-08-02 18:50:26] Mangalica : people are forced to HEDGE their bfx shorts dude
[2016-08-02 18:50:35] Mangalica : on ETC
[2016-08-02 18:50:40] Mangalica : that's why you see the volume
[2016-08-02 18:51:00] BTCDJS : tscha: panic! run! make it news! the world is ending! we need drama!
[2016-08-02 18:51:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 4440 @ 0.005633
[2016-08-02 18:51:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 800 @ 0.005636
[2016-08-02 18:51:30] rapidtrades : We haven't used the hot/cold wallet setup since our implementation with bitgo as each user has their own wallet that the funds are stored in
[2016-08-02 18:51:46] rapidtrades : ^^^^ another moran trying to reinvent the wheel
[2016-08-02 18:52:02] rapidtrades : The bitgo implementation offered the most transparent method of fund storage while what appears to be a high-level of security.
[2016-08-02 18:52:03] laisee : safe == !safe
[2016-08-02 18:52:09] rapidtrades : u thought wrong bitch
[2016-08-02 18:52:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1000 @ 0.005657
[2016-08-02 18:52:48] sharpie0101 : laisee, i was gonna buy a new telescope and dslr
[2016-08-02 18:53:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 1400 @ 0.005687
[2016-08-02 18:53:24] BTCDJS : tech: on reddit, it sounded like they lost more than 0.5%. CollinCrypto now says he made a mistake. That was from a year ago article
[2016-08-02 18:53:26] laisee : I'm gunna buy some six pack if anyone can send some BTC.
[2016-08-02 18:53:56] Skitrx : my btc locked in contracts is gonna be worthless by the time this is over
[2016-08-02 18:54:01] wurstgelee : holy f.... etc
[2016-08-02 18:54:05] tscha : BTCDJS: thats what I figured
[2016-08-02 18:54:22] sharpie0101 : im still in profit margin from january till now, however that is slowly diminishing, and now that main support at 580 is gone
[2016-08-02 18:54:28] wurstgelee : anyone recalls me saying etc:eth 1:2 a few days ago? ;)
[2016-08-02 18:54:37] sharpie0101 : ill lose it all before ill sell
[2016-08-02 18:54:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2464 @ 0.01621
[2016-08-02 18:54:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1 @ 0.01610 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 18:54:54] BTCDJS : ETC going to 0.009-0.01
[2016-08-02 18:55:08] rapidtrades : u
[2016-08-02 18:55:13] zanza : looks like ETC will parity ETH
[2016-08-02 18:55:30] BTCDJS : glad I got on board
[2016-08-02 18:55:34] Skitrx : the etc crash is gonna be epic
[2016-08-02 18:55:38] BTCDJS : seemed a no brainer
[2016-08-02 18:55:40] laisee : hope hey hard fork agin ... worked out well
[2016-08-02 18:55:44] Skitrx : and that hacker is still out there with his funds
[2016-08-02 18:55:48] zanza : they will meet around .012 or so
[2016-08-02 18:56:31] BTCDJS : Skitrx: lol win for the bad guy
[2016-08-02 18:56:39] zanza : not sure if Bitfinex programmers are trash tier, or they are just so big problems are inevidiable
[2016-08-02 18:57:03] wotan : eth and etc both could crash at one point, to me this looks like both dying
[2016-08-02 18:57:31] laisee : wotan: can't they just fork again?
[2016-08-02 18:57:31] wotan : other new projects might take over
[2016-08-02 18:58:05] BTCDJS : one of them will fall away for sure. Im guessing ETC will. but for now theres money to be made
[2016-08-02 18:58:11] wotan : sure they can fork as much as they want but the whole eth etc thing confused people
[2016-08-02 18:58:31] tscha : last time they were hacked they lost all the BTC in their hotwallet, which held 0.5% of all the BTC... but now, they are saying that they do not have a hotwallet anymore? wut
[2016-08-02 18:58:45] laisee : wotan: just like QE and Fiat banking ...
[2016-08-02 18:58:45] wotan : yes sure when you can make money dont complain:)
[2016-08-02 18:58:58] rapidtrades : yeah so losses could be yuge
[2016-08-02 18:59:02] rapidtrades : tscha:
[2016-08-02 18:59:06] Pedro : i cant open a short bitmex
[2016-08-02 18:59:13] Pedro : it says instant liquidation
[2016-08-02 18:59:20] Pedro : please change the index
[2016-08-02 18:59:20] wotan : laisee yes im glad i diversify my investment into gold and silver not just crypto
[2016-08-02 18:59:23] Pedro : finex is down
[2016-08-02 18:59:28] bernx : mark price for eth/btc broken
[2016-08-02 18:59:32] BTCDJS : Pedro: leverage too high
[2016-08-02 18:59:32] bernx : we can't trade
[2016-08-02 18:59:43] BTCDJS : lower leverage
[2016-08-02 18:59:52] wotan : i love both markets but can slep much better when i know i have some gold and mostly silver
[2016-08-02 19:00:02] wurstgelee : lol wtf
[2016-08-02 19:00:03] tscha : hack had nothing to do with 2FA by the way
[2016-08-02 19:00:07] MrRGnome : Kind of messed up that bfx has been responsible for the last 2 major dips, including the end of the halving bubble.
[2016-08-02 19:00:16] wurstgelee : ah nvm
[2016-08-02 19:00:45] zanza : so how could hacker by pass 2FA wurstgelee?
[2016-08-02 19:00:56] rapidtrades : im not seeing anything in my email
[2016-08-02 19:00:59] wurstgelee : noone can
[2016-08-02 19:01:04] rapidtrades : am i safe or did they bypass
[2016-08-02 19:01:05] tscha : They didn't hack 2FA or accounts. They said that *wallets* were hacked, not *accounts*. So no login credentials compromised.
[2016-08-02 19:01:10] wurstgelee : 2fa is secure if implemented correctly
[2016-08-02 19:01:13] rapidtrades : great
[2016-08-02 19:01:16] zanza : I wouldn't touch Finex with a 10 ft pole
[2016-08-02 19:01:17] wurstgelee : yep
[2016-08-02 19:01:21] rapidtrades : f great finex u trash
[2016-08-02 19:01:22] wurstgelee : someone compromised their serves
[2016-08-02 19:01:24] wurstgelee : servers
[2016-08-02 19:01:28] wurstgelee : not accounts
[2016-08-02 19:01:35] BTCDJS : tscha: eh? wallets?
[2016-08-02 19:01:39] rapidtrades : so then we could sue them
[2016-08-02 19:01:49] tscha : BTCDJS: bitcoin wallet. heard of it before?
[2016-08-02 19:01:51] Rado : I can't believe how bad these companies are
[2016-08-02 19:02:01] Rado : crypto is supposed to be really safe
[2016-08-02 19:02:09] BTCDJS : tscha: yup.
[2016-08-02 19:02:17] Skitrx : a chain is only as strong as its weakest link
[2016-08-02 19:02:18] rapidtrades : what's a good online checker to see my transactions
[2016-08-02 19:02:22] Rado : the software they write is not using any of teh cryptographic methodologies
[2016-08-02 19:02:59] sharpie0101 : Rado I assure you bitcoin is secure
[2016-08-02 19:03:03] laisee : using Visual Basic I hear.
[2016-08-02 19:03:11] BTCDJS : tscha: they can't be that easy to hack.
[2016-08-02 19:03:12] sharpie0101 : it's improper handling of personal info that they fucked up
[2016-08-02 19:03:13] tscha : My bad, should have withdrawn my money when they showed their incompetence during their server issue a couple of weeks ago.
[2016-08-02 19:03:56] rapidtrades : how do i check
[2016-08-02 19:04:02] BTCDJS : one wallet maybe. but wallets?
[2016-08-02 19:04:15] Rado : sharpie0101: I was talking about the software written by the exchanges
[2016-08-02 19:04:35] Skitrx : is there anyway to get out of ETC7D before friday?
[2016-08-02 19:04:57] Mangalica : you sell your long... ?
[2016-08-02 19:05:07] Mangalica : not sure what you mean
[2016-08-02 19:05:07] Skitrx : yes
[2016-08-02 19:05:08] BTCDJS : Skitrx: yup
[2016-08-02 19:05:18] Skitrx : i mean withdraw funds, sorry
[2016-08-02 19:05:36] BTCDJS : no
[2016-08-02 19:06:03] Mangalica : some of it should be available for withdrawal even before settlement, but it's not guaranteed
[2016-08-02 19:06:18] Skitrx : its gonna be worthless by friday at this rate haha
[2016-08-02 19:06:48] aaa : Skitrx: hedge it
[2016-08-02 19:06:55] Skitrx : i can't, profit
[2016-08-02 19:07:12] Skitrx : pending PNL
[2016-08-02 19:07:22] Rado : ETC a great short here for scalp
[2016-08-02 19:07:52] aaa : Skitrx: you should be able to open a position with what you have
[2016-08-02 19:08:13] Skitrx : yes but that is roughly half, the rest is pending
[2016-08-02 19:08:25] Skitrx : unlocked in 3 days
[2016-08-02 19:08:43] rapidtrades : great now i have to wait for finex all night
[2016-08-02 19:08:43] Skitrx : unless you can still trade with that and i'm stupid
[2016-08-02 19:08:47] Skitrx : :D
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 500 @ 636.50
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 1000 @ 635.60
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 2421 @ 632.14
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 22000 @ 583.94 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 586.10
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 19025 @ 587.89
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10000 @ 588.53
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1647 @ 588.07
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 8000 @ 586.24
[2016-08-02 19:08:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 581.76
[2016-08-02 19:09:10] rapidtrades : MARK DOWN
[2016-08-02 19:09:14] kogroken : Mark price finally updated
[2016-08-02 19:09:15] aaa : Skitrx: you can trade with the other half and leverage it
[2016-08-02 19:09:22] rapidtrades : caused a stupid liq
[2016-08-02 19:09:26] nip : dpe incoming
[2016-08-02 19:09:26] rapidtrades : 244k
[2016-08-02 19:10:09] mike1000 : not compared to 800+K on 650-630 dump
[2016-08-02 19:11:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 19980 @ 59185.0
[2016-08-02 19:12:33] Skitrx : wow do all these people get their money back? or is this just part of the risk you take
[2016-08-02 19:13:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 23300 @ 58710.0 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 19:13:12] bernx : How i can get money back? can't
[2016-08-02 19:13:26] nip : hey i just got liquidated for no sreason
[2016-08-02 19:13:33] nip : hey check out xbj
[2016-08-02 19:13:38] muirtastic : It's just the risk you take dealing with unregulated exchange
[2016-08-02 19:13:41] nip : the mm stopped quoting and i got liquidated
[2016-08-02 19:13:48] Skitrx : too bad
[2016-08-02 19:13:48] muirtastic : I lost about $7K on Gox and have a lot more than that on Finex
[2016-08-02 19:13:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 195 @ 0.005510
[2016-08-02 19:14:36] muirtastic : Yes I see Mark price is fixed.makes my PNL look much better
[2016-08-02 19:14:57] Skitrx : looks like etc is coming back to reality
[2016-08-02 19:15:09] rapidtrades : ''We don't have a hot/cold wallet setup, each user has their own segregated wallet''
[2016-08-02 19:15:21] rapidtrades : ^^^^ next level stupidity right there
[2016-08-02 19:16:09] mike1000 : Rado: which indicators are to watch on ETC for short time frame? for me it's all to chaotic
[2016-08-02 19:17:14] Rado : mike1000: If you are asking about my call to short. I was looking at 15 min chart and price was well outside of BB bands
[2016-08-02 19:21:13] mike1000 : Rado: BB are cool for XBT, gonna try with ETC, just need to learn to tell breakout from fakeout/reversal :0
[2016-08-02 19:21:16] wurstgelee : risky af tho
[2016-08-02 19:21:19] wurstgelee : to short etc
[2016-08-02 19:21:22] wurstgelee : //2 cents
[2016-08-02 19:22:38] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4950 @ 577.68
[2016-08-02 19:22:58] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13000 @ 577.16
[2016-08-02 19:22:59] Skitrx : gonna be interesting when the $32m in longs liquidate on bfx
[2016-08-02 19:23:11] mike1000 : wurstgelee: shorted ok just a bit now, but leverage is poison on ETH/ETC for me, price oscillater well behind liq prices both ways
[2016-08-02 19:23:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6000 @ 576.37
[2016-08-02 19:23:28] wurstgelee : yes, but btc is crashing
[2016-08-02 19:23:30] wurstgelee : still is
[2016-08-02 19:23:31] Chimpindeed : What $32m you kidding?
[2016-08-02 19:23:50] Skitrx : thats what was said on reddit bitcoinmarkets
[2016-08-02 19:23:54] Skitrx : dunno official figures
[2016-08-02 19:24:14] willybot : What is PNL?
[2016-08-02 19:24:33] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 445 @ 574.27
[2016-08-02 19:24:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 5725 @ 572.19
[2016-08-02 19:24:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4823 @ 572.15
[2016-08-02 19:24:48] wurstgelee : there goes btc
[2016-08-02 19:26:01] wurstgelee : and up goes etc
[2016-08-02 19:26:07] wurstgelee : risky ;)
[2016-08-02 19:26:10] Skitrx : sorry $38m**
[2016-08-02 19:27:02] Chimpindeed : oh got that in my back pocket sheeeesh
[2016-08-02 19:27:52] RoftheN : Where's the bottom?
[2016-08-02 19:29:01] nip : anyone from bitmex here? i got liquidated on xbj at a price below where the mark or market ever was
[2016-08-02 19:31:28] Skitrx : does a cross convert your btc into usd?
[2016-08-02 19:31:46] jesperf : seriously, bitfinex.. another gox to taint the bitcoin value
[2016-08-02 19:33:48] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 891 @ 570.42
[2016-08-02 19:34:28] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2016-08-02 19:34:28] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 638 @ 565.02
[2016-08-02 19:35:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 116880 @ 563.45 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-02 19:35:04] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6049 @ 562.93
[2016-08-02 19:35:05] ersagun : Why is it a bad practice to have a personal wallet for every user? Wouldn't it protect against a single point failure, at least in theory?
[2016-08-02 19:35:53] Skitrx : cold wallets allow your money to be stored safely, then in practice the number in your wallet isn't real, but can be transferred from cold storage
[2016-08-02 19:37:42] rapidtrades : welp...welp
[2016-08-02 19:37:42] RoftheN : Wow I lost so much money today
[2016-08-02 19:37:45] Skitrx : its like any money you have is credit for equal value of what is in cold wallet, and only becomes real when you withdraw it
[2016-08-02 19:38:34] rapidtrades : so all bitfinex wallets start with 3 or 39?
[2016-08-02 19:38:39] sleger : anyone else saw the news for coin etf ?
[2016-08-02 19:38:40] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 195 @ 560.68
[2016-08-02 19:38:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 30000 @ 561.64 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 19:38:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1912 @ 561.44
[2016-08-02 19:38:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7000 @ 560.63
[2016-08-02 19:38:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 561.12 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 19:38:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 561.56
[2016-08-02 19:38:43] mike1000 : RoftheN: I hope you could afford to lose that money
[2016-08-02 19:39:45] rapidtrades : trying to figure out which were my finex addresses
[2016-08-02 19:39:53] RoftheN : Well all of it was profit made by trading, but I better earn it back somehow
[2016-08-02 19:42:27] pgpenc : just tapped out @179% profit across 4 accounts ;)
[2016-08-02 19:43:23] pgpenc : think this is pretty close to the bottom!
[2016-08-02 19:43:37] rapidtrades : not rly
[2016-08-02 19:43:51] rapidtrades : so how do i search my wallet for bitfinex address
[2016-08-02 19:43:53] Skitrx : bottom is high $400's apparently
[2016-08-02 19:44:18] BTCDJS : 580 support broke. the ship is sinking
[2016-08-02 19:45:01] Skitrx : which indexes are being used for btc mark price right now?
[2016-08-02 19:45:09] rapidtrades : 'We are still investigating how exactly we were compromised'
[2016-08-02 19:45:13] rapidtrades : how reassuring
[2016-08-02 19:45:18] Skippy882 : Low 500s will be rough time for miners
[2016-08-02 19:45:27] BitMEX_Sam : Skitrx: https://www.kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-02 19:45:30] rapidtrades : NOW IS NOT THE TIME SKIPPY
[2016-08-02 19:45:35] BitMEX_Sam : BFX is out so it's OKC intl & Stamp
[2016-08-02 19:46:04] Skitrx : thanks
[2016-08-02 19:46:23] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: do u know how i can check my finex addresses?
[2016-08-02 19:46:37] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: No, I don't
[2016-08-02 19:46:53] rapidtrades : ok
[2016-08-02 19:47:49] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: check your bitcoin wallet history of dresses you sent to
[2016-08-02 19:47:57] BTCDJS : adresses
[2016-08-02 19:48:22] rapidtrades : yeah i was asking what type of address to search for
[2016-08-02 19:48:25] zanza : should I go pump bitmex on reddit now?
[2016-08-02 19:48:26] Skitrx : looks like someone closed a huge short in china lol
[2016-08-02 19:48:32] rapidtrades : guess u didn't catch me asking 10 times ^^^
[2016-08-02 19:48:52] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: can you not just remember the day and the amount you sent?
[2016-08-02 19:49:05] rapidtrades : are u srs
[2016-08-02 19:49:14] BTCDJS : yup
[2016-08-02 19:49:19] Rado : lol
[2016-08-02 19:49:26] rapidtrades : NO
[2016-08-02 19:49:57] BTCDJS : k
[2016-08-02 19:50:49] jordanbitfort : he must have been trading too rapidly
[2016-08-02 19:51:04] elmorte : Wow, withdrawal from Polo took 11min for first conf
[2016-08-02 19:51:08] BTCDJS : yeah i came to that conclusion
[2016-08-02 19:52:02] elmorte : Finex withdrawal would've cleared on Thursday...though that seems like wishful thinking now
[2016-08-02 19:52:53] nip : BitMEX_Sam: can you explain why the XBJ mark went to 52000 yen?
[2016-08-02 19:53:00] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: wtf is wrong with jbitcoin xbj mark price.
[2016-08-02 19:53:03] nip : i got liquidated by that
[2016-08-02 19:53:20] nip : i cant get an answer
[2016-08-02 19:53:29] habibi : yea this pair is full of shit
[2016-08-02 19:54:25] BitMEX_Greg : nip: Hey nip, we don't control the mark from Quoine. If you see their trade history then there was a large trade down to 52000
[2016-08-02 19:54:37] rapidtrades : ok so when u move coins from deposit to exchange for example, does that happen internally or on blockchain
[2016-08-02 19:54:48] nip : that is $515 usd...
[2016-08-02 19:55:12] elmorte : internally afaik
[2016-08-02 19:55:23] elmorte : it's instantaneous
[2016-08-02 19:55:36] CaptainDean : @nip that is one of the problem when a bunch of liquidation occurs at the same time .. you never know how low it will go
[2016-08-02 19:55:39] BitMEX_Greg : Yes we need to follow up with Quoine and ask them what happened
[2016-08-02 19:55:55] Bacon futures trader : funding rate = -0,0649
[2016-08-02 19:56:02] nip : BitMEX_Greg: can you reinstate my position?
[2016-08-02 19:56:15] Bacon futures trader : does that mean you get payed if you are long or short?
[2016-08-02 19:56:21] BitMEX_Greg : Seems 2000 XBT pushed it there. I think at the time there were wide spreads
[2016-08-02 19:56:26] nip : that is ridiculous to expect me to lose tens of BTC because of that mark problem
[2016-08-02 19:56:26] elmorte : long gets paid if <0
[2016-08-02 19:56:28] CaptainDean : for long
[2016-08-02 19:56:49] Bacon futures trader : Alright thanks
[2016-08-02 19:56:50] CaptainDean : @nip i aggree
[2016-08-02 19:56:58] bernx : I just open Vodka. Nice day
[2016-08-02 19:57:25] BitMEX_Greg : nip: Nip can you send us a support ticket. I need to follow up with the partners
[2016-08-02 19:57:55] bernx : 4 reports coming in from @Bitfinex users on @whalepool chat who say they have had funds hacked even though they use 2FA
[2016-08-02 19:59:45] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: how can we tell total p/l?
[2016-08-02 20:00:23] elmorte : probably why they said wallets got hacked and not accounts
[2016-08-02 20:00:46] BitMEX_Greg : willybot: What do you mean by that? Are you looking for pnl on your positions?
[2016-08-02 20:00:59] BitMEX_Greg : I heard that some bitgo addresses got hacked too
[2016-08-02 20:01:22] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: im withdrawing funds and have the PNL figure up too
[2016-08-02 20:01:51] willybot : getting use to this site its confusing
[2016-08-02 20:02:28] BitMEX_Greg : What Pnl figure are you trying to see
[2016-08-02 20:02:29] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: is my pending PNL seperate to my pending withdrawal?
[2016-08-02 20:02:32] blackwhite : rapidtrades: did BFX annihinate all positions?
[2016-08-02 20:02:38] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: can u adjust mark price so it can follow price at all? xbj
[2016-08-02 20:02:48] blackwhite : fun
[2016-08-02 20:02:53] rapidtrades : blackwhite: they just shut down everything
[2016-08-02 20:03:07] nip : "At the time of liquidation, the contract was marked at 53790.3 and you were long 12500 contracts."
[2016-08-02 20:03:12] blackwhite : rapidtrades: do you hedge your positrion now or waht
[2016-08-02 20:03:38] rapidtrades : now? i already shorted extra at 600
[2016-08-02 20:03:53] Rado : rapidtrades: nice
[2016-08-02 20:04:12] blackwhite : i assume you were short on Bfx before fun, and added short here after?
[2016-08-02 20:04:28] rapidtrades : yes and added on btce
[2016-08-02 20:04:30] BitMEX_Greg : willybot: If you have open positions you have pnl. This will be shown in the position tab. Are you referring to the differences between realised and unrealised pnl?
[2016-08-02 20:04:49] blackwhite : kind of awkward if they destory all positions or not all positions
[2016-08-02 20:05:06] rapidtrades : yeah most shorts are there so it wont be pretty
[2016-08-02 20:05:19] rapidtrades : they claim it will only be affected accounts
[2016-08-02 20:05:54] rapidtrades : 'We will not be processing any deposits or withdrawals until we complete our investigation of what happened and figure out all the details for relaunch'
[2016-08-02 20:06:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: Buy 150 @ 567.06
[2016-08-02 20:06:08] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: my pending positions awaiting settlement. Combined that is my profit yes? and seperate is my withdrwal yes?
[2016-08-02 20:06:12] rapidtrades : could take days considering their incompetence
[2016-08-02 20:06:18] blackwhite : ouch
[2016-08-02 20:06:34] blackwhite : you recommended them to me as i remember
[2016-08-02 20:06:50] Skitrx : can't believe people are buying
[2016-08-02 20:06:58] Skitrx : with the incoming shitstorm
[2016-08-02 20:07:03] rapidtrades : At this time we don't have an ETA for relaunch, apologies
[2016-08-02 20:07:21] blackwhite : so now you trust btce. when will be the okc turn to gain ur faith, rapid?
[2016-08-02 20:07:48] rapidtrades : never its a fake market
[2016-08-02 20:07:51] chromaticcr1 : did woodchipper send some guy over here to take this thing down lol
[2016-08-02 20:08:27] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: this is a Finex address 34MFLubfbcqtYjsw7a3GTxKXr6vPNe2xFa
[2016-08-02 20:08:46] blackwhite : intrigue! intrigue!
[2016-08-02 20:08:58] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: cool so they start with 3
[2016-08-02 20:09:17] blackwhite : Skitrx: i want to buy a bit lower. Am i normal?
[2016-08-02 20:09:31] jesperf : all bitcoin addresses must start with 1 or 3.
[2016-08-02 20:09:32] BTCDJS : Dono. Maybe they start with 34M
[2016-08-02 20:09:51] BitMEX_Greg : willybot: Your withdrawals are separate to your pnl
[2016-08-02 20:10:25] blackwhite : Skitrx: Like at 520. Do you approve my intention?
[2016-08-02 20:11:09] willybot : BitMEX_Greg: confirmed
[2016-08-02 20:11:16] Skitrx : dunno why you're asking me but 520 sounds a lot safer
[2016-08-02 20:12:09] macios15 : bottom for now
[2016-08-02 20:12:12] macios15 : guys
[2016-08-02 20:12:31] rapidtrades : isn't this a second hack of finex?
[2016-08-02 20:12:39] rapidtrades : they lost 1mil few years ago
[2016-08-02 20:12:45] Rado : yes
[2016-08-02 20:12:56] rapidtrades : jan 2015 was it?
[2016-08-02 20:13:03] Skitrx : the language they are using indicates this is worse
[2016-08-02 20:13:11] Skitrx : "we did not lose most or nearly all of the coins"
[2016-08-02 20:13:26] jesperf : we did not not screw up
[2016-08-02 20:13:26] Skitrx : how cryptic lol
[2016-08-02 20:13:35] Rado : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/breaking-bitcoin-exchange-bitfinex-hot-wallet-hacked/
[2016-08-02 20:14:22] macios15 : Rado: looks not that bad
[2016-08-02 20:15:07] CaptainDean : so guys, are we going down or up from here ? i vote down
[2016-08-02 20:15:12] elmorte : to the moon!
[2016-08-02 20:15:19] CaptainDean : haha :D
[2016-08-02 20:15:32] Skitrx : moon is falling
[2016-08-02 20:15:38] wotan : up
[2016-08-02 20:15:42] jesperf : I think it's an overreaction
[2016-08-02 20:15:46] CaptainDean : and why are we 5$ over the market price ?
[2016-08-02 20:15:48] wotan : i think too
[2016-08-02 20:15:53] jesperf : it's bad news, but buttfinex is not the end of the world
[2016-08-02 20:16:09] macios15 : finex will recover
[2016-08-02 20:16:10] wotan : but let
[2016-08-02 20:18:14] wotan : lets see
[2016-08-02 20:19:22] johndoe : so glad i left finex to come here after their last site-shutdown
[2016-08-02 20:19:42] Skitrx : big sells on huobi
[2016-08-02 20:20:20] rapidtrades : No it did not. We are still evaluating the scope of the consequences arising from the hack'
[2016-08-02 20:20:52] rapidtrades : they have to clue how big it is
[2016-08-02 20:21:04] Rado : not many liquidations on ETC
[2016-08-02 20:21:13] wurstgelee : lets hard fork btc to bail out finex
[2016-08-02 20:21:24] wurstgelee : that worked great for eth
[2016-08-02 20:21:37] Rado : lol
[2016-08-02 20:21:47] Rado : that will be a disaster
[2016-08-02 20:23:55] blackwhite : does btce have margin trading?
[2016-08-02 20:24:08] rapidtrades : yes it does
[2016-08-02 20:24:09] muirtastic : It sounds like they may just tell the customers who got hacked "tough luck" and carry on with operations. They are saying the customers got hacked, not Bitfinex.
[2016-08-02 20:24:21] rapidtrades : they're not saying that
[2016-08-02 20:24:35] muirtastic : Yes BTCe has margin trading through their metratrader 4 platform
[2016-08-02 20:25:07] Adura : Bitfinex really is a mini-mtgox...
[2016-08-02 20:25:20] muirtastic : They are implying that. "but we know that some of our users have had their bitcoins stolen. " They didn't say "our site got hacked and we lost BTC".
[2016-08-02 20:25:29] muirtastic : I know it's semantics
[2016-08-02 20:25:31] Skitrx : bitfinex allows insider trading, what do you expect
[2016-08-02 20:25:45] Skitrx : i wouldn't be suprised if they enabled shorts for their accounts before they resume trading
[2016-08-02 20:26:18] muirtastic : I need to spread my funds around more between here and okc and btce and finex. Just spread the risk around more evenly. Right now I just have funds on finex and here
[2016-08-02 20:26:32] muirtastic : But fiat on finex so may be ok there....or not
[2016-08-02 20:26:51] muirtastic : But this hack is good for BitMEX. It will get use more volume here and more liquidity.
[2016-08-02 20:26:54] rapidtrades : they're saying only btc wallets are affected
[2016-08-02 20:29:43] rapidtrades : they didn't even sent an email
[2016-08-02 20:31:16] wurstgelee : more information coming in
[2016-08-02 20:31:18] wurstgelee : slowly....
[2016-08-02 20:31:19] elmorte : Statuspage.io did
[2016-08-02 20:31:24] wurstgelee : apparently its bitgo related
[2016-08-02 20:32:48] yerb : BitMEX_Greg: did you fix the spot price?
[2016-08-02 20:33:10] justinlooking : sleger: u mean the michael casey letter?
[2016-08-02 20:33:53] sleger : yes
[2016-08-02 20:34:12] ayy_lmao : jebus911
[2016-08-02 20:34:13] ayy_lmao : where are you
[2016-08-02 20:38:02] Skitrx : https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett#page=1
[2016-08-02 20:38:10] Skitrx : doesn't look good judging by his answers
[2016-08-02 20:38:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 250 @ 0.005672
[2016-08-02 20:38:37] johndoe : "We don't use cold storage, every user has their own segregated bitcoin wallet."
[2016-08-02 20:39:19] Skitrx : "Your account being compromised isn't exactly the same as the bitcoin being withdrawn, but yes it does mean that the bitcoin held in your wallet have been withdrawn."
[2016-08-02 20:45:06] johndoe : "We have one private key that we use to sign transactions, bitgo then has a key that they use to sign transactions, and there's one key that's kept in cold storage."
[2016-08-02 20:45:12] BitMEX_Greg : yerb: Which price are you referring to
[2016-08-02 20:45:30] yerb : BitMEX_Greg: mark price
[2016-08-02 20:46:28] yerb : i went short on XBTUSD and it almost liquidated me because mark price wasnt accurate
[2016-08-02 20:47:04] yerb : can you use bustamp price for spor/mark?
[2016-08-02 20:47:08] BitMEX_Greg : yerb: The Kaiko Index has removed Bitfinex
[2016-08-02 20:47:20] BitMEX_Sam : It's Bitstamp/OKC
[2016-08-02 20:47:22] yerb : oh, ok
[2016-08-02 20:47:30] BitMEX_Sam : https://kaiko.com/bitmex
[2016-08-02 20:47:32] yerb : thanx
[2016-08-02 20:48:48] BitMEX_Greg : The page should be updated later. But essentially Bitfinex's weight will be spread proportionately amongst Bitstamp and OkCoin
[2016-08-02 20:48:59] BitMEX_Greg : OKC rather
[2016-08-02 20:49:16] RoftheN : What happened to LSK orderbook?
[2016-08-02 20:50:37] aethlios : BitMEX_Greg: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETHXBTPI is not in %
[2016-08-02 20:50:56] aethlios : BitMEX_Greg: https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI is in %
[2016-08-02 20:53:34] BitMEX_Greg : aethlios: Thanks will look into it
[2016-08-02 20:56:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 167 @ 0.005943
[2016-08-02 20:56:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 221 @ 0.005959
[2016-08-02 20:59:37] Skitrx : holy crap etc
[2016-08-02 21:00:16] jesperf : I shake my head in disbelief
[2016-08-02 21:00:24] jesperf : and also slap it
[2016-08-02 21:00:33] wurstgelee : nope
[2016-08-02 21:00:37] wurstgelee : 1:2 soon
[2016-08-02 21:02:56] johndoe : 38% etc/eth prices
[2016-08-02 21:03:30] justinlooking : jd: https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_etc 41%!
[2016-08-02 21:03:47] justinlooking : 42.5%..
[2016-08-02 21:03:50] johndoe : ETC / ETH price (USD) = 3.33 / 8.72 = 38.21 % ETC / ETH hashrate (GH/s) = 914 / 3,535 = 25.87 %
[2016-08-02 21:03:58] johndoe : https://slacknation.github.io/medium/13/13.html
[2016-08-02 21:04:04] wurstgelee : 1:2 any minute
[2016-08-02 21:04:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3010 @ 0.006463
[2016-08-02 21:04:17] wurstgelee : waiting for it ever since etc started @ polo :=)
[2016-08-02 21:05:19] wurstgelee : omg
[2016-08-02 21:05:21] wurstgelee : fomo
[2016-08-02 21:09:12] Skitrx : jesus eth 14
[2016-08-02 21:09:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `LSKXBT`: Sell 6195 @ 0.000334
[2016-08-02 21:10:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.006156
[2016-08-02 21:10:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `LSKXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.000334
[2016-08-02 21:10:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.01366
[2016-08-02 21:20:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01465
[2016-08-02 21:20:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1000 @ 0.01452
[2016-08-02 21:22:53] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 119403 @ 560.10 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-02 21:26:03] jesperf : weirdest tuesday everrrrrrr
[2016-08-02 21:26:11] Rado : no shit
[2016-08-02 21:26:15] Rado : it's crazy
[2016-08-02 21:27:01] wurstgelee : tbh i love it
[2016-08-02 21:27:13] wurstgelee : but probably only because i have no funds @ finex (or had=)
[2016-08-02 21:28:07] jesperf : the only places i trust my bitcoins is here and kraken
[2016-08-02 21:28:18] MrRGnome : I'm crying into my spilt milk. I really need a correction on etc, any correction will do.
[2016-08-02 21:28:20] jesperf : possibly the only two actors in crypto who know what they're doing
[2016-08-02 21:28:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1000 @ 0.005777
[2016-08-02 21:29:01] jesperf : oooh yeah some blood now please
[2016-08-02 21:29:04] MrRGnome : oh this could be my chance!!!
[2016-08-02 21:29:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 559.61 :punch: :whale:
[2016-08-02 21:30:07] jesperf : MrRGnome: how do you know when to buy in? ;)
[2016-08-02 21:30:20] MrRGnome : Well, don't take my advice because I am getting murdered
[2016-08-02 21:30:32] MrRGnome : but I have been cost averaging my shorts on etc
[2016-08-02 21:30:43] MrRGnome : so I look at my entry price to know where my break even point is
[2016-08-02 21:31:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1572 @ 559.55
[2016-08-02 21:31:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 20000 @ 559.40 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-02 21:31:59] jesperf : I think it's actually impossible to trade this kind of 24h volatility
[2016-08-02 21:32:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 558.83
[2016-08-02 21:32:01] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2016-08-02 21:32:01] Lorix : jesperf: BitMex are derivative contracts, so it pays to look at the source on other exchanges to get a handle on the volumes involved
[2016-08-02 21:32:51] jesperf : Lorix: no exchange discloses their source code
[2016-08-02 21:32:56] lockhedge : is bitfinex now suspending trading every time the market dumps >5%?
[2016-08-02 21:33:08] MrRGnome : volume is amount traded not source code. Gives you an idea of the market size
[2016-08-02 21:33:09] Lorix : jesperf: Of course not.
[2016-08-02 21:33:49] jesperf : trading volume only tells you how many fools they have in their net
[2016-08-02 21:34:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100513 @ 558.42 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-08-02 21:34:12] jesperf : since bitfinex was a major place for US citizens to trade, of course they had many customers
[2016-08-02 21:34:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 150 @ 556.61
[2016-08-02 21:34:30] ibtcx100 : so finex lost 120k btc?
[2016-08-02 21:34:37] jesperf : does not mean shit about their routines and security
[2016-08-02 21:34:42] Lorix : jesperf: True, but it also lets you see where their net hasn't covered so you can cast your own out and pick up some fish of your own
[2016-08-02 21:35:30] justinlooking : ironic all the fud about coinbase, and now this
[2016-08-02 21:35:53] kogroken : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4vqmz9/daily_discussion_tuesday_august_02_2016/d61kz0q Some 100k BTC were moved out from multisig addresses at the time of the hack (bfx and bitgo used multisig addresses)
[2016-08-02 21:36:39] Lorix : kogroken: Ouch and ETH/ETC thought they had hacker problems....
[2016-08-02 21:36:49] MrRGnome : This is the second time in just over a month that bfx issues have caused a collapse in btc price
[2016-08-02 21:37:12] kogroken : Well, it's only 1/6 of the mtgox hack!
[2016-08-02 21:37:49] MrRGnome : Is it really that large? Someone was saying only 0.5% of their btc was taken. That's not accurate?
[2016-08-02 21:37:51] ax : only this time its a justified collapse, last time was just fear
[2016-08-02 21:38:12] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: No, 0.5% was last year's ahck
[2016-08-02 21:38:13] kogroken : MrRGnome: The 0.5% was from an earlier hack IIRC
[2016-08-02 21:38:15] BitMEX_Sam : hack*
[2016-08-02 21:38:22] BitMEX_Sam : It's not looking good re: the multisig addr moves
[2016-08-02 21:38:42] Lorix : kogroken: Depending on the hacker's next move altcoins like DASH and ETH/ETC may be the ones to look at since they would give a prospective hacker an easy tumbling route
[2016-08-02 21:38:54] justinlooking : unless it was a calculated damage limitation sweep or sth
[2016-08-02 21:39:01] MrRGnome : That's pretty upsetting, and the funds aren't insured. Sounds like we're in for a sustained collapse while price recovers
[2016-08-02 21:39:04] ax : lets fork bitcoin to stop this attacker tbh
[2016-08-02 21:39:16] justinlooking : lol gl
[2016-08-02 21:40:00] Lorix : ax: many a true world spoken in jest....
[2016-08-02 21:40:10] Skitrx : $60,000,000 stolen
[2016-08-02 21:40:19] Lorix : Skitrx: HOLY #$#@!
[2016-08-02 21:40:25] MrRGnome : Skitrx: Unbelievable
[2016-08-02 21:40:32] BitMEX_Sam : Could be correct
[2016-08-02 21:40:36] ax : why would you steal 100k though, no way they can launder and cash it out. couldve gotten away with a smaller amy
[2016-08-02 21:40:38] ax : amt
[2016-08-02 21:40:54] Lorix : ax: Actually you can, you just have to be paitent
[2016-08-02 21:41:01] BitMEX_Sam : If you're in an exchange's wallets, you take everything you can then use it as leverage
[2016-08-02 21:41:20] jesperf : Skitrx: nah man, only around $55 million now
[2016-08-02 21:41:20] BitMEX_Sam : If 100k BTC were really stolen, yes, that is very hard to sell, but it's also massive leverage in a negotiation
[2016-08-02 21:41:39] Skitrx : jesperf: phew, crisis averted
[2016-08-02 21:41:45] ax : a negotiation to what goal? as if the exchange will let them cash out a part of it? lmao
[2016-08-02 21:41:47] Lorix : BitMEX_Sam: Not to mention if the hacker had shorted BTC just before they executed their heist
[2016-08-02 21:41:55] BitMEX_Sam : ax: Exactly
[2016-08-02 21:42:08] BitMEX_Sam : Both parties could reach a mutually beneficial agreement
[2016-08-02 21:42:22] BitMEX_Sam : All speculation of course but that could be a possibility in this situation
[2016-08-02 21:42:38] Skitrx : the only beneficial option for the hacker would be to remain anonymous
[2016-08-02 21:42:44] Skitrx : and slowly sell the btc
[2016-08-02 21:43:07] Lorix : BitMEX_Sam: There is also the "inside job" possibility a-la Shapeshift. Unfortunately they don't have the same damage limits SS had
[2016-08-02 21:43:27] MrRGnome : I think the most likely thing to happen is this halving bubble is ended, we'll consolidate at a much lower price for a number of months, and I expect another bubble within the year, maybe sooner.