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[2016-07-31 04:06:20] Pedro : lol bitmex why so bear
[2016-07-31 04:06:43] rapidtrades : are google authy codes always same length?
[2016-07-31 04:06:51] bernx : y
[2016-07-31 04:07:02] sharpie0101 : someone had to unload a lot at 10pm
[2016-07-31 04:07:12] rapidtrades : and can it contain this char =
[2016-07-31 04:07:27] sharpie0101 : fuck google authycodes
[2016-07-31 04:07:39] rapidtrades : HEY FECK U DUDE
[2016-07-31 04:08:01] sharpie0101 : does bitmex api's require google's apis
[2016-07-31 04:08:05] sharpie0101 : ?
[2016-07-31 04:08:39] sharpie0101 : pretty sure https is secure
[2016-07-31 04:08:50] sharpie0101 : and supports authenticated client with certificates
[2016-07-31 04:09:02] sharpie0101 : so no need for shitty google authentication
[2016-07-31 04:09:26] bernx : lol you mad?
[2016-07-31 04:10:09] rapidtrades : prolly a longie got caught
[2016-07-31 04:11:38] BitMEX_Wally : sharpie0101: There is no requirement to use 2FA, and you can use the API with access tokens, or API keys
[2016-07-31 04:15:21] sharpie0101 : oh thats good then
[2016-07-31 04:15:35] sharpie0101 : kinda like coinbase api
[2016-07-31 04:16:13] BitMEX_Wally : I would strongly recommend you use Clef (much better than Google Authenticator): http://clef.io/
[2016-07-31 04:17:02] muirtastic : I've never understood how Clef could be better than Google Authenticator. Doesn't it let you bypass using a password, even
[2016-07-31 04:17:46] rapidtrades : aren't u f*cked if u lose ur phone
[2016-07-31 04:18:10] muirtastic : yes seems like it. Or if someone gets your phone, they could log in. When with 2fa, they would need username, pw, and phone
[2016-07-31 04:18:17] BitMEX_Wally : Clef store an encrypted backup for you, which you can recover. Same with Authy
[2016-07-31 04:18:44] muirtastic : I just save the QR code for all my 2fa's in an encrypted folder so I can always recover them if my phone dies
[2016-07-31 04:19:04] rapidtrades : encrypted how?
[2016-07-31 04:19:26] muirtastic : I just Symantec encryption and encrypt with PGP disk, but you could use Truecrypt or anything else
[2016-07-31 04:20:10] rapidtrades : ur machine has to be secure when u do that right...cos otherwise they can read the pass?
[2016-07-31 04:20:13] BitMEX_Wally : https://getclef.com/security/
[2016-07-31 04:20:40] BitMEX_Wally : Those QR codes, or seeds, can be stolen. Clef cannot
[2016-07-31 04:20:53] rapidtrades : stolen how
[2016-07-31 04:21:13] nip : stolen if you save it unencrypted?
[2016-07-31 04:21:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 58000 @ 632.01 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2016-07-31 04:21:29] rapidtrades : ffs
[2016-07-31 04:21:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 620 @ 631.09
[2016-07-31 04:21:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3500 @ 630.91
[2016-07-31 04:21:47] zanza : This difficulty downward adjustment is bearish
[2016-07-31 04:21:57] zanza : for Bitcoin, showing a plateau
[2016-07-31 04:21:57] BitMEX_Wally : The QR code exists, and if an attacker has it they can generate unlimited 2FA codes
[2016-07-31 04:22:31] zanza : the Authenticator key he means
[2016-07-31 04:23:07] bernx : Btc make haircut
[2016-07-31 04:23:31] nip : how could attacker get the QR without the phone or root access to it?
[2016-07-31 04:24:18] BitMEX_Wally : They could be spying on your computer
[2016-07-31 04:24:26] BitMEX_Wally : Take a photo of your screen, etc etc
[2016-07-31 04:24:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 7 @ 629.72
[2016-07-31 04:25:41] BitMEX_Wally : Google Authenticator key is effectively just another password, that is transmitted from the service to the user. And that password can be stolen
[2016-07-31 04:26:07] BitMEX_Wally : Have a look at the Clef white paper to see how Clef credentials cannot be stolen
[2016-07-31 04:26:10] muirtastic : They would still need username and pw though. With Clef, there is just one piece of data that is used to login, vs three
[2016-07-31 04:26:48] muirtastic : But I'll have to research it more. You are probably correct that it is better but I just don't get it on an intuitive level
[2016-07-31 04:28:59] sharpie0101 : bitmex_wally if you ever heard of linustechtalks on youtube
[2016-07-31 04:29:03] sharpie0101 : it happened to him
[2016-07-31 04:29:12] sharpie0101 : it's an error in trust
[2016-07-31 04:29:23] sharpie0101 : which is why google shouldn't be responsible for security
[2016-07-31 04:29:59] sharpie0101 : tls is a prodocal which perfectly handles such things
[2016-07-31 04:30:43] sharpie0101 : and it is universal but instead of building on that stupid google tries to make it's own trendy bullshit thing which is proprietary
[2016-07-31 04:31:19] sharpie0101 : the correct way to do it would be with a client certificate
[2016-07-31 04:31:32] Pedro : i have a problem with the chart
[2016-07-31 04:31:45] sharpie0101 : then you have the certificate and only that machine with the cert can be authenticated
[2016-07-31 04:31:47] rapidtrades : i'd rather trust google then some random clef claiming they renationalized security
[2016-07-31 04:32:14] sharpie0101 : and that's why you aren't secure
[2016-07-31 04:32:22] sharpie0101 : tls is predecessor to ssl
[2016-07-31 04:32:24] rapidtrades : HEY FECK U MAN
[2016-07-31 04:33:29] sharpie0101 : this stuff was worked out in the 90's and google is sitting here ignoring a decades worth of progress and ignoring all the lessons learned
[2016-07-31 04:33:51] rapidtrades : says sharpie0101
[2016-07-31 04:34:32] sharpie0101 : normaly you have a password and all trust is attatched to the password
[2016-07-31 04:34:41] sharpie0101 : but there is a problem with that
[2016-07-31 04:34:55] rapidtrades : yeah ur mom has it
[2016-07-31 04:35:30] sharpie0101 : you could do client certificate, with password which is way better than google's authentication scheme
[2016-07-31 04:35:30] BitMEX_Wally : Google Authenticator is just a useful client. There is no communication with Google itself
[2016-07-31 04:35:43] nip : i dont trust this clef guy
[2016-07-31 04:35:50] BitMEX_Wally : The keys and codes follow a standard
[2016-07-31 04:35:51] sharpie0101 : which is basically just showing off the ability for a server to send sms text message, no real security
[2016-07-31 04:36:24] sharpie0101 : there's no need for it
[2016-07-31 04:36:44] nip : sharpie0101: google authenticator is where google servers send you a text message?
[2016-07-31 04:36:50] sharpie0101 : password and cert, your responsible for two things.. if you get compromised it's yourfalt
[2016-07-31 04:37:07] nip : no password just pick a good username if someone guesses it its your fault
[2016-07-31 04:37:16] rapidtrades : :)
[2016-07-31 04:37:23] sharpie0101 : not necessarily nip
[2016-07-31 04:37:49] sharpie0101 : if you do common password, someone could do a static password, and change user name and steal bunch of accounts
[2016-07-31 04:37:59] nip : thats what im saying
[2016-07-31 04:38:10] nip : start with the basics: no password
[2016-07-31 04:38:15] nip : they had that figured out in the 60s
[2016-07-31 04:38:28] sharpie0101 : however by using tls client authentication via certificate, that would be impossible
[2016-07-31 04:38:47] rapidtrades : nip: that won't work if u login on public wifis etc
[2016-07-31 04:39:00] nip : rapidtrades: thats where sharpie's tls comes in
[2016-07-31 04:39:04] sharpie0101 : you would require a certificatae signed by signing authority, as well as a correct password
[2016-07-31 04:41:00] rapidtrades : stupid china waking me up so early
[2016-07-31 04:41:14] sharpie0101 : why
[2016-07-31 04:41:20] sharpie0101 : the sell off at 10 pm eastern time
[2016-07-31 04:43:10] sharpie0101 : well jjust got back on
[2016-07-31 04:43:24] sharpie0101 : now if my calculations are correct we should see a price of 200k dollars
[2016-07-31 04:43:29] sharpie0101 : for a btc
[2016-07-31 04:43:45] sharpie0101 : haha
[2016-07-31 04:50:50] elmorte : Sounds right
[2016-07-31 04:53:24] sharpie0101 : once the dollar finally crashes
[2016-07-31 04:53:45] elmorte : Art what price did that liqdn close?
[2016-07-31 04:54:22] bernx : http://bravenewcoin.com/news/ethereum-analysis-eth-vs-etc-potential-parity
[2016-07-31 05:01:48] laisee : bernx: hashrate has dropped for ETC since last week
[2016-07-31 05:04:54] bernx : ETC only 6 day born
[2016-07-31 05:04:59] bernx : ofc it will
[2016-07-31 05:07:55] laisee : price dropping, hashrate dropping ... looks like ETC IS DEAD.
[2016-07-31 05:17:12] BitMEX_Wally : http://slacknation.github.io/medium/13/13.html
[2016-07-31 05:17:39] bernx : THEY SAID ITS DROPPING
[2016-07-31 05:17:51] bernx : Why you broke he pony world?
[2016-07-31 05:17:52] bernx : :(
[2016-07-31 05:21:30] sharpie0101 : hmm so that was what caused the 20 usd drop in btc?
[2016-07-31 05:22:04] ggwp : might have been selling
[2016-07-31 05:22:39] sharpie0101 : yeah huge sell off at 10 pm eastern time
[2016-07-31 05:27:51] mike1000 : Which exchange starts the move and the rest follow? finex? china? Or one (big player) needs to sell on several exchanges at the same time to cause a drop?
[2016-07-31 05:27:54] sharpie0101 : good time to buy etc
[2016-07-31 05:28:14] sharpie0101 : mike, a big move ccan happen on any market
[2016-07-31 05:28:32] sharpie0101 : there are intermarket boundaries which make oppertunity for arbitrage
[2016-07-31 05:28:39] zanza : might of been a Finex dump
[2016-07-31 05:28:47] ggwp : sharpie0101: for bots
[2016-07-31 05:28:55] sharpie0101 : it is individuals who take advantage of arbitrage who equlize inter-market boundraies
[2016-07-31 05:29:08] ggwp : zanza: what's this "migh of" trend about?
[2016-07-31 05:29:13] ggwp : might of
[2016-07-31 05:29:34] sharpie0101 : i follow gdax
[2016-07-31 05:29:39] ggwp : I find it interesting
[2016-07-31 05:31:45] sharpie0101 : also ethereum classic isn't even traded on gdax officiaally as of yesterday
[2016-07-31 05:36:19] sharpie0101 : it may have been speculation on etc actually, the decline in price may have cause a large move from btc (low pperformance lately) to etc for a speculative buy back
[2016-07-31 05:37:46] elmorte : Etc moved fck all though
[2016-07-31 05:48:35] sharpie0101 : ah crypto currency, the hybrid bubble
[2016-07-31 05:49:01] sharpie0101 : we don't know what it is, but we know who has them and who doesn't
[2016-07-31 05:50:03] ggwp : hybrid bubble?
[2016-07-31 05:50:14] sharpie0101 : like a normal bubble, speculation
[2016-07-31 05:50:28] sharpie0101 : what can someone actually buy with a btc?
[2016-07-31 05:50:45] sharpie0101 : but it can't pop at the expense of liquidity
[2016-07-31 05:51:16] sharpie0101 : say i have a house im asking way too much for, you can go and build that house for less
[2016-07-31 05:51:28] sharpie0101 : so a housing bubble can pop
[2016-07-31 05:52:02] sharpie0101 : but a crypto-currency bubble doesn't have to pop because simply there is no way to get the currency with out buying it, at the sellers price
[2016-07-31 05:52:19] ggwp : lol what?
[2016-07-31 05:52:25] ayy_lmao : people just have to stop using it
[2016-07-31 05:52:25] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-07-31 05:52:27] ggwp : MINING?
[2016-07-31 05:52:27] sharpie0101 : with exception to to etc
[2016-07-31 05:52:41] ggwp : what's mining right?
[2016-07-31 05:52:42] sharpie0101 : ayy-lmao, nobody is using it
[2016-07-31 05:52:50] ayy_lmao : traders are
[2016-07-31 05:52:57] sharpie0101 : btc mining reward halved
[2016-07-31 05:53:01] sharpie0101 : 12 btc
[2016-07-31 05:53:22] sharpie0101 : thats speculation ayy_lmao
[2016-07-31 05:53:33] sharpie0101 : using the currency for the hope of profiting from using it
[2016-07-31 05:53:34] ayy_lmao : how is that speculation
[2016-07-31 05:53:48] ayy_lmao : the only reason btc is at $650 is because of traders
[2016-07-31 05:53:52] sharpie0101 : nobody takes crypto currency still
[2016-07-31 05:54:01] sharpie0101 : yes ayy
[2016-07-31 05:54:25] ayy_lmao : oh i read your sentence wrong
[2016-07-31 05:55:21] sharpie0101 : my point though is that it can't pop the same way
[2016-07-31 05:56:00] sharpie0101 : if everyone refused to sell 1btc for less than 1 million dollars, there would be no other way to get them than to cough up the 1 million dollars
[2016-07-31 05:56:14] ggwp : sharpie0101: wrong
[2016-07-31 05:56:22] sharpie0101 : sure liquidity of btc would go away
[2016-07-31 05:56:42] sharpie0101 : however, there is no back door to just aquire btc with out having to pay for it
[2016-07-31 05:56:49] sharpie0101 : such aas with the housing market
[2016-07-31 05:57:10] sharpie0101 : ggwp, yes you could mine them
[2016-07-31 06:07:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 40 @ 0.002621
[2016-07-31 06:07:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 15 @ 0.002629
[2016-07-31 06:08:01] sharpie0101 : :)
[2016-07-31 06:09:49] zanza : Polo trollbox is so busy
[2016-07-31 06:10:40] zanza : BitMEX_Wally: you guys should merge with Polo, to provide leverage trading with their currency service
[2016-07-31 06:12:28] ayy_lmao : how would that work
[2016-07-31 06:15:08] bernx : i prefer not trade on polo, due 2.5x margin
[2016-07-31 06:15:55] ayy_lmao : you are also trading real ethereum on polo
[2016-07-31 06:26:26] BitMEX_Wally : We are doing deals with spot exchanges to offer our products
[2016-07-31 06:26:39] BitMEX_Wally : For example you can trade XBJ24H from Quoine.com
[2016-07-31 06:36:15] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: could you share how much volume is coming from Quoine compared to BitMEX directly?
[2016-07-31 06:37:52] micmix : approx percentage?
[2016-07-31 06:40:14] jesperf : aww man, I shouldn't trade bitcoin
[2016-07-31 06:40:43] micmix : you should, it's the best thing ever!
[2016-07-31 06:41:19] jesperf : I enter a long and go to bed. boom, ten minutes later it crashes
[2016-07-31 06:41:50] zanza : jesperf: can you message me before you make your next purchase?
[2016-07-31 06:42:42] jesperf : zanza: I could probably make more money on trading advice, because it has happened many many times
[2016-07-31 06:49:19] zanza : I think God is telling you to stop trading
[2016-07-31 06:49:25] jesperf : I should have known better, it's been looking shady the last couple of days
[2016-07-31 06:51:14] jesperf : there is no fucking god, this is all market manipulation
[2016-07-31 06:53:36] jesperf : people who believe in a god should be locked in a sanatorium
[2016-07-31 06:54:01] ggwp : Bitcoin is god
[2016-07-31 06:54:49] jesperf : I pledge my allegiance to the all powerful Satoshi Nakamoto, kudasai
[2016-07-31 06:56:00] ggwp : senpai
[2016-07-31 06:56:29] jesperf : notice me
[2016-07-31 07:03:47] jesperf : well guys, short some more, because I added to my long and I'm going to bed again
[2016-07-31 07:03:58] zanza : thanks
[2016-07-31 07:04:01] zanza : opening short
[2016-07-31 07:04:27] jesperf : should be profitable in 10-15 minutes
[2016-07-31 07:04:53] zanza : my kids are counting on i
[2016-07-31 07:04:58] zanza : it
[2016-07-31 07:06:45] ggwp : shorts gun get rekt
[2016-07-31 07:07:19] ggwp : why short on ascending triangle?
[2016-07-31 07:07:22] ggwp : an
[2016-07-31 07:08:56] zanza : caus im reverse jesperf
[2016-07-31 07:09:47] ggwp : kool
[2016-07-31 07:14:37] bernx : shorts what?
[2016-07-31 07:16:56] bernx : Mark price 254, while on polo it's 260. wtf?
[2016-07-31 07:17:04] ayy_lmao : yah idk
[2016-07-31 07:17:06] ayy_lmao : lol
[2016-07-31 07:17:33] bernx : there is 2577. wtf lol realy
[2016-07-31 07:18:35] ayy_lmao : its a combo of contract price and polo price
[2016-07-31 07:18:40] ayy_lmao : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-07-31 07:21:34] bernx : still unreal
[2016-07-31 07:21:56] bernx : 261+ and 257here. but still 245
[2016-07-31 07:22:42] ayy_lmao : yah
[2016-07-31 07:52:47] bernx : 7200 btc buy support @polo
[2016-07-31 07:53:09] wow such volatility : etc will pump today
[2016-07-31 07:54:47] bernx : na
[2016-07-31 08:32:07] jonny : wow such volatility: no doge coin will
[2016-07-31 08:36:34] rapidtrades : support move the mark on sept
[2016-07-31 09:18:05] blackwhite : are we going to have dpe?
[2016-07-31 09:18:08] sleger : they have to stop manipulating sept to save some longs
[2016-07-31 09:27:07] jesperf : sleger!! why does rapidtrades always talk about you? is he in love with you?
[2016-07-31 09:39:22] elmorte : what? he didn't mention him the whole day
[2016-07-31 10:05:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTU16`: Sell 50 @ 691.83
[2016-07-31 10:12:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 2700 @ 0.002785
[2016-07-31 10:16:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 150 @ 0.002833
[2016-07-31 12:27:16] NickBit : Does bitmex allow partial closing of positions?
[2016-07-31 12:27:41] Adura : Manually, sure.
[2016-07-31 12:28:13] jonny : but forces liquidation is all in one?:D
[2016-07-31 12:28:18] jonny : *forced
[2016-07-31 12:28:28] NickBit : but it says I have insufficient balance
[2016-07-31 12:28:31] NickBit : -,-
[2016-07-31 12:28:46] NickBit : I got like 785 short, I just want to close 40 positions
[2016-07-31 12:28:53] NickBit : i go 40 long, and it says insufficient balance
[2016-07-31 12:28:54] NickBit : lel
[2016-07-31 12:33:47] BitMEX_Wally : You can partially close a position, but you can't close it at a loss greater than your account balance
[2016-07-31 12:34:13] BitMEX_Wally : Try putting a lower price on your buy order
[2016-07-31 12:35:32] NickBit : opps, ok got it
[2016-07-31 12:39:40] NickBit : 1 more question if PNL is based on mark price. but contracts are closed on bid / ask price, how is it an accurate representation?
[2016-07-31 12:40:14] BitMEX_Wally : NickBit: The problem might have been because you had another Close order open at the time, now you have canceled that the buy order should be fine
[2016-07-31 12:40:57] BitMEX_Wally : Unrealised PNL is based on the mark price, but Realised PNL is based on the traded price
[2016-07-31 12:41:23] BitMEX_Wally : We use the mark price to prevent manipulation and people triggering cascading liquidations
[2016-07-31 13:28:31] bernx : BitMEX_Wally: there was a realy nice to see 238, while polo was 250 and there last deal price was 247
[2016-07-31 14:56:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 168 @ 0.01889
[2016-07-31 14:57:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 1500 @ 0.01882
[2016-07-31 14:58:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.01876
[2016-07-31 15:01:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.01860
[2016-07-31 15:41:06] mike1000 : BitMEX_Wally: how do I place a trailing stop order that becomes active (starts watching price moves) only if price reaches some threshold? Like "Trailing Stop Stop".
[2016-07-31 15:41:58] mike1000 : Or "Stop Trailing Stop" if you like it better :)
[2016-07-31 15:42:20] NickBit : Damn the order book spread is too big on bitmex
[2016-07-31 15:42:29] NickBit : It doesn't really coorelate to the mark price :(
[2016-07-31 15:43:15] nip : NickBit: check out the 30 Sep contract
[2016-07-31 15:45:23] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 100 @ 0.01836
[2016-07-31 15:45:42] NickBit : how do I choose it
[2016-07-31 15:46:08] BitMEX_Wally : mike1000: Not possible at the moment, but could you probably use the API to place a OneTriggersTheOther order that does it
[2016-07-31 15:49:19] mike1000 : BitMEX_Wally: can you give me sample request parameters for OneTriggersTheOther?
[2016-07-31 15:50:10] NickBit : how do I select the 30sep contract
[2016-07-31 15:53:37] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 39 @ 0.002940
[2016-07-31 15:59:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 441 @ 0.003015
[2016-07-31 16:20:28] jesperf : hmm, I don't think my vaccination shot is working
[2016-07-31 16:20:46] jesperf : I would have been a lot happier not knowing about the stuff going on over at polo
[2016-07-31 16:24:30] NickBit : anyone know how to change contract date?
[2016-07-31 16:24:39] NickBit : or is it not possible
[2016-07-31 16:24:54] Chimpindeed : what the hells going on over at Polo?
[2016-07-31 16:25:05] jesperf : NickBit: you click it
[2016-07-31 16:25:10] jesperf : with your dick
[2016-07-31 16:25:25] jesperf : Chimpindeed: they're doing that thing again with etc
[2016-07-31 16:25:34] Chimpindeed : sheeesh
[2016-07-31 16:26:14] Chimpindeed : They need to be clicked with more than my dick
[2016-07-31 16:26:31] NickBit : Hey
[2016-07-31 16:26:38] NickBit : This is not how you treat customers
[2016-07-31 16:26:43] jesperf : :D
[2016-07-31 16:26:55] Chimpindeed : Depends on the brothel i mean broker
[2016-07-31 16:27:37] jesperf : NickBit: you should probably buy a smaller monitor if you can't find your way around here
[2016-07-31 16:28:12] Chimpindeed : Or a bigger magnifier
[2016-07-31 16:28:33] jesperf : NickBit: but it's quite simple. choose bitcoin and below that bar there is a second row with different contract versions
[2016-07-31 16:30:01] jesperf : NickBit: we're just trolls though. not affiliated with bitmex in any way other than also being gambl.. I mean customers
[2016-07-31 16:44:30] mike1000 : BitMEX_Wally: what are MarketIfTouched and LimitIfTouched order types?
[2016-07-31 16:47:56] mike1000 : BitMEX_Wally: also if I use `OneTriggersTheOther` and my primary order should act only as a trigger and not be executed against market, should I set `OneCancelsTheOther` in a secondary order?
[2016-07-31 17:37:40] mike1000 : Well, the only working option I made up is to add 1 contract to position in the primary stop order (quantity 0 is rejected) so it gets properly executed and only then triggers the secondary Trailing Stop. Kinda hacky.
[2016-07-31 18:56:33] HELLO : can I move the etc to other adress?
[2016-07-31 18:57:44] justinlooking : u can only deposit/withdraw btc here
[2016-07-31 19:35:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 628.72 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-31 19:36:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 626.24
[2016-07-31 19:50:46] Pedro : i have etc in my xbt chart
[2016-07-31 19:50:50] Pedro : i cant take it
[2016-07-31 19:50:53] Pedro : :(
[2016-07-31 19:56:54] Pedro : i have invalid symbo onm the chart
[2016-07-31 19:56:58] Pedro : anyone has the same
[2016-07-31 20:08:38] ayy_lmao : what time frame
[2016-07-31 20:16:03] zanza : refresh
[2016-07-31 20:16:59] mike1000 : Pedro: right-click on ETH chart and choose Hide
[2016-07-31 20:56:01] donald576 : how do i get started
[2016-07-31 20:58:21] jesperf : donald576: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2016-07-31 20:58:56] donald576 : jesperf
[2016-07-31 20:59:00] donald576 : thanks jesperf
[2016-07-31 21:01:06] jesperf : reading up before you throw yourself into it is highly recommended
[2016-07-31 21:01:16] jesperf : unless you feel like throwing away your bitcoins
[2016-07-31 21:03:02] donald576 : little investment for trials
[2016-07-31 21:04:47] jesperf : aww yiss, I've made 0.062 BTC on funding fees the last 12 hours
[2016-07-31 21:06:50] donald576 : jesperf how.. any screenshots
[2016-07-31 21:09:16] jesperf : donald576: I was being a bit sarcastic, but on certain contracts here there are funding fees to pay periodically. the purpose is to prevent contract prices from deviating too much from the underlying instrument
[2016-07-31 21:09:44] jesperf : it's all in the documentation
[2016-07-31 21:10:15] jesperf : read up and then learn by trying it out
[2016-07-31 21:11:16] donald576 : thanks for the clarification
[2016-07-31 21:11:17] donald576 : okay
[2016-07-31 21:43:53] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETHXBT`: Buy 830 @ 0.01895
[2016-07-31 21:49:37] donald576 : what about bitcoins..long or short
[2016-07-31 21:50:08] zanza : Hong Kong agreement violated
[2016-07-31 21:50:11] zanza : price tank now?
[2016-07-31 21:54:54] Roevenger : ETH overreacts so much to btc falls
[2016-07-31 22:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 226 @ 0.002827
[2016-07-31 22:16:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 359 @ 0.002829
[2016-07-31 22:16:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2147 @ 0.002801
[2016-07-31 22:16:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 10 @ 0.002809
[2016-07-31 22:16:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 669 @ 0.002804
[2016-07-31 22:23:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1801 @ 0.002782
[2016-07-31 22:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 5641 @ 0.002759
[2016-07-31 22:57:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1800 @ 0.002729
[2016-07-31 23:23:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 500 @ 624.83
[2016-07-31 23:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 623.33
[2016-07-31 23:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 635 @ 623.73
[2016-07-31 23:26:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 10617 @ 623.29
[2016-07-31 23:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2200 @ 623.07
[2016-07-31 23:27:08] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2016-07-31 23:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 300 @ 622.83
[2016-07-31 23:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2 @ 622.69 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-31 23:27:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 100 @ 622.57
[2016-07-31 23:27:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 158409 @ 622.19 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2016-07-31 23:28:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3000 @ 621.27
[2016-07-31 23:28:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 752 @ 621.58
[2016-07-31 23:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 621.08 :punch: :whale:
[2016-07-31 23:32:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1000 @ 620.72
[2016-07-31 23:32:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 4000 @ 620.90
[2016-07-31 23:32:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2000 @ 620.58
[2016-07-31 23:32:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 15 @ 620.19
[2016-07-31 23:54:10] muirtastic : What carnage...long overdue
[2016-07-31 23:55:07] bitbucks : how is the mark price calculated, median between bid and ask orders?
[2016-08-01 00:14:12] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2016-08-01 00:42:13] Chimpindeed : zzzzz....
[2016-08-01 01:24:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 33000 @ 619.90 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-01 01:31:28] rapidtrades : if $610 pops...watch out bullz
[2016-08-01 01:31:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 16400 @ 619.44
[2016-08-01 01:42:03] rapidtrades : alipay uses bitcoin chain for tracking
[2016-08-01 01:42:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 700 @ 616.35
[2016-08-01 01:42:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6500 @ 616.20
[2016-08-01 01:44:17] rapidtrades : where is everyone
[2016-08-01 01:45:13] Chimpindeed : crying in their beer
[2016-08-01 01:45:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 2704 @ 615.26
[2016-08-01 01:46:32] Chimpindeed : You get to talk to REKT as a default trader
[2016-08-01 01:47:19] rapidtrades : QQQQQQQQ
[2016-08-01 01:47:48] Chimpindeed : 10Q
[2016-08-01 01:49:35] rapidtrades : it was 8 actually
[2016-08-01 01:50:13] Chimpindeed : I dont know what the 8 Qs mean
[2016-08-01 02:06:53] Chimpindeed : You cant hide your crying eyes Q_Q got it
[2016-08-01 02:20:07] fineregex : BitMEX_Sam: Maintenance Margin and insurance contribution should be different amounts. Forced liquidation can start i portions at a 5%,10% or 20% mainteanance but insurance contribution does not need to be that much.
[2016-08-01 02:40:57] muirtastic : I have had short bias for about a month or longer, so this was expected. I didn't profit enough on the move though. But condolences to longs.
[2016-08-01 03:14:30] zanza : that Yuan
[2016-08-01 04:22:10] yerb : guys if you want to join us in out Teamspeak check this out, we also have exchanges staff joining us from bitfinex, krakem, coinpit, BitMex and more.. https://whalepool.io/connect/teamspeak
[2016-08-01 04:33:41] zanza : Discord > teamspeak
[2016-08-01 05:49:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 300 @ 0.01884
[2016-08-01 05:58:01] sharpie0101 : so heard 5 chinese miners had meeting with btc devs which caused 20 dip yesterday, not sure how true sounds kinda like typical rumor
[2016-08-01 06:13:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 3500 @ 0.002921
[2016-08-01 06:39:09] laisee : sharpie0101: market doesn't believe the cartel will hold to its committments regarding TXN production limits
[2016-08-01 07:11:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 327 @ 0.01847
[2016-08-01 07:20:20] zanza : Corestream just stalling to finish segwit, however blocks are already full and they look very unprepared
[2016-08-01 07:21:00] zanza : they think miners will be on their side, due to increased fee market, but overall this will hurt Bitcoin adopt if blocks are full
[2016-08-01 07:25:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 50 @ 0.01836
[2016-08-01 07:39:57] dharmabum : Hi Bitmex team. https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuideETH is 404.
[2016-08-01 07:45:19] BitMEX_Jinming : dharmabum: It should be https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ETH where did you see the wrong address?
[2016-08-01 07:47:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 41 @ 0.003083
[2016-08-01 07:48:33] rapidtrades : eth dying and etc rising
[2016-08-01 08:13:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 300 @ 0.003231
[2016-08-01 08:29:00] ayy_lmao : damn
[2016-08-01 08:29:03] ayy_lmao : rip etc shorts
[2016-08-01 08:33:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 25 @ 0.003322
[2016-08-01 08:43:39] dharmabum : BitMEX_Jinming: bottom link on https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/ETC
[2016-08-01 08:44:04] dharmabum : BitMEX_Jinming: actually bottom two links on that page.
[2016-08-01 08:45:32] dharmabum : BitMEX_Jinming: well, before the ETH if you get me.
[2016-08-01 08:47:43] BitMEX_Jinming : dharmabum: Thank you, we will correct it:)
[2016-08-01 08:48:49] dharmabum : BitMEX_Jinming: :-)
[2016-08-01 09:06:16] rapidtrades : guys don't fite
[2016-08-01 09:06:39] rapidtrades : when does the haxxor get this coinz
[2016-08-01 09:31:34] ayy_lmao : don't know but It won't be easy trying to sell it
[2016-08-01 09:31:40] ayy_lmao : have fun getting blacklisted
[2016-08-01 09:39:23] rapidtrades : blacklisted by who? the whole point of etc is for that not to happen
[2016-08-01 09:40:20] fineregex : rapidtrades: etc has no point besides
[2016-08-01 09:40:25] fineregex : that is confirmes that
[2016-08-01 09:40:36] fineregex : 2/3 of eth volume was shady
[2016-08-01 09:40:42] fineregex : and is now gone for good
[2016-08-01 09:40:58] rapidtrades : what's gone for good
[2016-08-01 09:41:01] fineregex : *it
[2016-08-01 09:41:03] fineregex : the volume
[2016-08-01 09:41:11] rapidtrades : how can u tell
[2016-08-01 09:41:11] fineregex : it was unnatrual since a while
[2016-08-01 09:41:35] fineregex : compare marketcap / volume
[2016-08-01 09:41:42] fineregex : for bitcoin ,ethereum and so on
[2016-08-01 09:41:46] fineregex : no it is more healthy
[2016-08-01 09:42:01] fineregex : some of the the pump and dump spam is gone
[2016-08-01 09:42:04] fineregex : *now
[2016-08-01 09:42:14] fineregex : for etc
[2016-08-01 09:44:29] ayy_lmao : rapidtrades thats an opinion
[2016-08-01 09:44:36] ayy_lmao : exchanges can do whatever they want
[2016-08-01 09:44:56] ayy_lmao : the whole point of etc is to stop devs from censoring blockchain
[2016-08-01 09:45:02] ayy_lmao : central services can do whatever
[2016-08-01 09:45:13] ayy_lmao : btc-e has done it before and so have other exchanges with btc
[2016-08-01 09:45:58] ayy_lmao : i highly doubt polo would allow darkdao etc to be sent to their exchange
[2016-08-01 09:46:05] ayy_lmao : it would be financial suicide on their part imho
[2016-08-01 09:48:11] ayy_lmao : but that is my 'opinion'
[2016-08-01 10:37:40] rapidtrades : what exchanges have 'censored' bitcoin? proofs?
[2016-08-01 10:52:27] jesperf : kraken got audited in 2014 and bragged a shitload about it
[2016-08-01 10:52:43] jesperf : what's the point if you're not audited at least annually
[2016-08-01 10:53:40] jesperf : seems I'm repeating my mistakes from ETH with ETC
[2016-08-01 10:53:50] jesperf : every time I short it skyrockets
[2016-08-01 11:00:52] rapidtrades : bragged about what?
[2016-08-01 11:29:07] fineregex : so 35000 ETC short, good one
[2016-08-01 11:29:40] jesperf : that's ballsy
[2016-08-01 11:30:20] fineregex : is it you?
[2016-08-01 11:30:25] fineregex : im the 765
[2016-08-01 11:30:29] fineregex : order
[2016-08-01 11:30:35] jesperf : hell no
[2016-08-01 11:30:47] jesperf : if I gamble with 1 BTC I get sweaty palms
[2016-08-01 12:38:59] esuvari : anyone from bitmex here?
[2016-08-01 12:42:07] ste0024 : only Withdrawal in BTC is possible here ?
[2016-08-01 12:42:19] johndoe : yes
[2016-08-01 12:42:31] johndoe : deposit/withdrawal = BTC only
[2016-08-01 12:42:49] ste0024 : Withdrawal ETC not possible
[2016-08-01 12:42:52] ste0024 : ok
[2016-08-01 12:42:59] ste0024 : thanks
[2016-08-01 12:44:22] esuvari : so if you close an ETC contract
[2016-08-01 12:44:27] esuvari : before the settlement
[2016-08-01 12:44:29] esuvari : in profit.
[2016-08-01 12:44:39] esuvari : how long does it take the profit in your wallet?
[2016-08-01 12:44:58] esuvari : do you wait Friday? or do you have it by 15:00 like the perpetual contracts?
[2016-08-01 12:45:59] johndoe : not sure. i'd guess that it would be daily, but i don't know
[2016-08-01 12:49:42] BitMEX_Wally : We unlock 50% of your realised profit at the end of each 8 hour session, and then unlock 100% on Friday when the contract settles
[2016-08-01 12:51:47] esuvari : ok thanks
[2016-08-01 12:59:27] ayy_lmao : 8hr based on traditional funding times right?
[2016-08-01 12:59:37] ayy_lmao : regarding etc contract?
[2016-08-01 13:02:05] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, 12:00, 20:00, 04:00 UTC
[2016-08-01 13:08:36] ayy_lmao : last question, does dpe get adjusted during those times or only on settlment
[2016-08-01 13:08:58] ayy_lmao : was trying to find that in the reference
[2016-08-01 13:09:42] ayy_lmao : nevermind, i think i found it
[2016-08-01 13:16:08] BitMEX_Wally : DPE (if any) for ETC7D would be at settlement
[2016-08-01 13:31:01] rapidtrades : what why
[2016-08-01 13:32:14] BitMEX_Wally : Because ETC7D does not rebalance daily
[2016-08-01 13:32:28] BitMEX_Wally : We'll probably replace ETC7D with ETCXBT at some point if ETC is still popular
[2016-08-01 13:36:10] rapidtrades : kinda hard to keep track of all these different rules
[2016-08-01 13:42:46] BitMEX_Wally : Yes, so it's simpler if they're all swaps
[2016-08-01 13:43:24] BitMEX_Wally : We are looking at moving to automatic deleveraging, instead of DPE, so this will get rid of rebalancing, profit adjustment, withheld profit etc, and should help simplify
[2016-08-01 13:51:45] sleger : and its name shall be sleger's deleveraging
[2016-08-01 13:52:23] mike1000 : What is deleveraging? Partially selling to decrease leverage?
[2016-08-01 14:03:42] BitMEX_Wally : It means that if the is a liquidation order that is unfilled, then instead of DPE we reduce positions that are in profit to close out the liquidation order
[2016-08-01 14:04:19] rapidtrades : do the guys who have their orders closed get stuck with the DPE
[2016-08-01 14:04:28] BitMEX_Wally : Deleveraging is instead of DPE
[2016-08-01 14:04:40] bitbucks : Etc isn't going away soon
[2016-08-01 14:05:03] BitMEX_Wally : So rather than adjusting profits, we close profitable positions
[2016-08-01 14:05:34] ayy_lmao : into the order right?
[2016-08-01 14:05:44] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2016-08-01 14:13:10] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 6363 @ 0.003566
[2016-08-01 14:19:14] justinlooking : how would you choose which positions to close?
[2016-08-01 14:20:47] BitMEX_Sam : Draft document at https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging @justinlooking
[2016-08-01 14:20:54] justinlooking : oof! ty
[2016-08-01 14:21:52] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially the system will weight by highest leverage and profit
[2016-08-01 14:22:13] YM : why I can not use 20x laverage??
[2016-08-01 14:22:21] BitMEX_Sam : And we'll display on the dashboard which quintile your position is in, so you can make the decision to lower your leverage to move to a lower priority
[2016-08-01 14:22:25] BitMEX_Sam : YM: Which contract?
[2016-08-01 14:41:17] esuvari : wtf with the etc price?
[2016-08-01 14:41:29] justinlooking : full retard mode enabled
[2016-08-01 14:41:29] esuvari : market is 3530 and here it's 3688???
[2016-08-01 14:41:40] haxmb : ez money
[2016-08-01 14:41:54] esuvari : liquidation takes into account the mark price is it not?
[2016-08-01 14:42:00] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2016-08-01 14:42:10] esuvari : but that's stop hunting
[2016-08-01 14:42:25] BitMEX_Sam : I don't follow
[2016-08-01 14:42:39] BitMEX_Sam : The mark price is determined by the underlying asset's price + basis
[2016-08-01 14:43:19] esuvari : what constitutes the basis?
[2016-08-01 14:43:50] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidity on the market - we use something we call Impact pricing that's detailed here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking#weighted-bid-ask-and-mid-price
[2016-08-01 14:43:56] BitMEX_Sam : it's built to resist manipulation
[2016-08-01 14:45:20] esuvari : I cannot rationalize 170 pips difference
[2016-08-01 14:46:23] BitMEX_Sam : The market is not always rational
[2016-08-01 14:46:31] BitMEX_Sam : The calculation is clear to see.
[2016-08-01 14:46:38] BitMEX_Wally : The bid price is 0.003603
[2016-08-01 14:46:42] BitMEX_Wally : So if you think that's too high, sell into it :)
[2016-08-01 14:46:51] haxmb : The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent
[2016-08-01 14:46:56] haxmb : ^_^
[2016-08-01 14:48:22] esuvari : nope, I'm talking about the difference between the market price and bitmex "fair" price
[2016-08-01 14:48:41] justinlooking : esuvari: mark price is not market price
[2016-08-01 14:48:49] BitMEX_Wally : The fair price is adjusted to match where the ETC7D market price is
[2016-08-01 14:49:10] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: any plans to turn ETC7D into a continuous swap?
[2016-08-01 14:49:30] BitMEX_Wally : haxmb: Yes, if Poloniex enable margin trading
[2016-08-01 14:49:33] haxmb : 4x the ETHBTC volume
[2016-08-01 14:49:38] haxmb : ah cool
[2016-08-01 14:49:45] haxmb : can't use bitfinex FRR?
[2016-08-01 14:50:12] BitMEX_Wally : It's more for market makers who want to hedge a long swap position, need to short it
[2016-08-01 14:50:38] haxmb : yes plz :D
[2016-08-01 16:22:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 40810 @ 0.003475 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-01 16:23:44] wingman : mega rekt
[2016-08-01 16:23:45] wingman : lol
[2016-08-01 16:25:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 6000 @ 0.003390
[2016-08-01 16:25:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 22770 @ 0.003351 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2016-08-01 16:25:57] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2016-08-01 16:26:00] ayy_lmao : god damn
[2016-08-01 16:31:35] wingman : beautiful
[2016-08-01 16:34:03] rapidtrades : wait a min...40k and no DPE
[2016-08-01 16:34:51] ayy_lmao : shhh
[2016-08-01 16:35:30] ayy_lmao : it got filled no?
[2016-08-01 16:35:56] ayy_lmao : that dude must have did all in 5x lmao
[2016-08-01 16:36:00] ayy_lmao : 10x
[2016-08-01 16:37:14] rapidtrades : big strange to see a liq that high on 10x
[2016-08-01 16:40:40] ayy_lmao : max risk limit is 250xbt
[2016-08-01 16:49:33] BitMEX_Sam : It can be adjusted higher than 250 XBT if you're willing to put up more MM
[2016-08-01 16:54:24] willybot : this site bout to get a whole lot bigger
[2016-08-01 17:12:16] BitMEX_Sam : willybot: :+1: :tada:
[2016-08-01 17:18:15] Bacon futures trader : risk limit something new?