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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2016-07-28 04:43:41] BitMEX_Wally : Then look at `.ETCXBT30M` in the `instrument` table, it has a `referenceSymbol` of `.ETCXBT` [2016-07-28 04:43:50] elmorte : And the table only lists settlement values... [2016-07-28 04:43:53] BitMEX_Wally : COrrect [2016-07-28 04:44:02] BitMEX_Wally : ETC24H settles every 24 hours on a 30 minute TWAP [2016-07-28 04:44:06] elmorte : ayy_lmao: that's the one cheers! [2016-07-28 04:44:11] BitMEX_Wally : .ETCXBT30M is based on `.ETCXBT` which prints every minute [2016-07-28 04:44:23] BitMEX_Wally : `.ETCXBT` is based on `BTC_ETC` from Poloniex [2016-07-28 04:44:58] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.ETCXBT [2016-07-28 04:45:04] elmorte : Ok, found it...so Contract Details -> .ETCXBT30M Index -> .ETCXBT Index [2016-07-28 04:45:09] BitMEX_Wally : Yep [2016-07-28 04:45:30] elmorte : Aight, I missed the last step, didn't see it, my bad [2016-07-28 04:49:22] BitMEX_Wally : We are currently working on improving all the documentation [2016-07-28 04:49:40] BitMEX_Wally : Because the platform has evolved so much in the last 2 years we need to re-write some of it [2016-07-28 04:55:19] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, going to play with it on testnet when I have some time [2016-07-28 05:02:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 150 @ 0.01935 [2016-07-28 05:54:06] 1QaZxSw2 : what exactly happens during a deleveraging [2016-07-28 06:14:27] BitMEX_Arthur : 1QaZxSw2: Essentially we rank effective leverage and profit, [2016-07-28 06:14:38] BitMEX_Arthur : if say a short is liquidated we rank all longs [2016-07-28 06:15:19] BitMEX_Arthur : the traders with the highest leverage and profit are deleveraged first, if the liquidation order cannot be filled before getting to its bankruptcy price [2016-07-28 06:15:44] BitMEX_Arthur : and we just work our way down the list of longs until the liquidation order is filled [2016-07-28 06:16:33] BitMEX_Arthur : we are currently writing up the documentation now that will be published on testnet, once we announce any change there will be multiple weeks of advanced notice given the magnitude of the change [2016-07-28 06:33:40] 1QaZxSw2 : BitMEX_Arthur: thanks, so there is no DPE anymore [2016-07-28 06:35:11] 1QaZxSw2 : ? [2016-07-28 06:40:41] BitMEX_Wally : 1QaZxSw2: Correct, deleveraging occurs when DPE would go above 0%, so there will be no more DPE once we roll this out [2016-07-28 06:41:06] 1QaZxSw2 : so if im long in the above scenario with a high leverage and profit, what happens? how much do i lose? is my position closed? [2016-07-28 06:42:04] 1QaZxSw2 : and does this impact the leverage you offer [2016-07-28 06:42:06] BitMEX_Wally : If you are long and the price rises, and a short gets liquidated and cannot be closed out, then your long is deleveraged at a profit [2016-07-28 06:42:41] BitMEX_Wally : So you don't lose anything, your position is closed at profit [2016-07-28 07:01:47] bernx : what heppened to eth> [2016-07-28 08:05:08] macios15 : btc dump incoming i think soon [2016-07-28 08:27:06] macios15 : the price for rebalance is index price or mark price? [2016-07-28 08:40:03] justinlooking : mark [2016-07-28 08:40:45] BitMEX_Wally : It is the mark price, which for swaps at the time of rebalance is the index price [2016-07-28 10:33:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC24H`: Buy 400 @ 0.002462 [2016-07-28 10:33:40] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC24H`: Buy 20 @ 0.002464 [2016-07-28 11:37:06] migz : And now, which mark price etc24h is following? [2016-07-28 11:38:37] justinlooking : 30 min TWAP of polo [2016-07-28 11:38:39] migz : You have to be very observant in this exchange., jeez. [2016-07-28 11:39:24] migz : everything is changed by the day. [2016-07-28 11:40:04] justinlooking : picnic my frind [2016-07-28 11:40:05] justinlooking : *friend [2016-07-28 11:40:57] migz : they say they follow polo. and mark price is not even close to polo. [2016-07-28 11:42:07] justinlooking : we are 18 mins from expiry [2016-07-28 11:52:42] ayy_lmao : index follows polo [2016-07-28 11:52:54] ayy_lmao : not the trades or orders [2016-07-28 11:53:15] ayy_lmao : during the last 30 minutes [2016-07-28 11:53:20] ayy_lmao : the price becomes an average [2016-07-28 11:53:40] ayy_lmao : so you won't get an exact 1 to 1 with polo [2016-07-28 11:56:15] ayy_lmao : this is to prevent abnormal polo spikes from causing a false settlement prices [2016-07-28 12:02:03] gedza : what hapend all my etc positions are gone? [2016-07-28 12:02:58] gedza : why did my etc positions closed? [2016-07-28 12:03:16] migz : the fcuk? If they just follow polo price, it will be better, not average sh!t [2016-07-28 12:03:29] migz : Real tme data is much better. [2016-07-28 12:03:48] gedza : is anyone here from support? [2016-07-28 12:04:12] gedza : my etc positions closed by themselves, why? [2016-07-28 12:04:17] ayy_lmao : settlement [2016-07-28 12:04:19] ayy_lmao : lmao [2016-07-28 12:04:29] ayy_lmao : nobody reads the documentationn [2016-07-28 12:04:39] migz : who cares about paperworks. [2016-07-28 12:04:42] migz : hahaha [2016-07-28 12:04:58] ayy_lmao : people who don't get rekt [2016-07-28 12:05:06] gedza : i have profit [2016-07-28 12:05:13] gedza : but i had good positions [2016-07-28 12:05:17] gedza : and it keeps rising [2016-07-28 12:05:18] ayy_lmao : nice [2016-07-28 12:05:51] ayy_lmao : migz, its to prevent polo price manipulation from affecting bitmex settlement price [2016-07-28 12:05:57] ayy_lmao : its much harder with an average [2016-07-28 12:07:58] migz : almost 10k traders at polo, how can it be manipulated. lel [2016-07-28 12:08:43] migz : site is getting shitier an d shitier, too much documentation and such to prevent the site to loose profits. [2016-07-28 12:09:35] ayy_lmao : migz, okcoin settlements say otherwise [2016-07-28 12:11:06] gedza : i understand the reasons behind the move, but thats also some fucked up shit from trading perspective. now you got to think about settlement closing your whole position [2016-07-28 12:11:12] migz : nah, the site can manipulate it as well. [2016-07-28 12:12:32] migz : good thing i am trading here part time as i am just observing it and doing test. time to get back to polo [2016-07-28 12:12:38] ayy_lmao : 2 much troll for me [2016-07-28 12:16:11] Mangalica : but that's just how futures work, ETC has settlement every day at a given time [2016-07-28 12:19:28] Mangalica : it's not a "move" it happens every day. And we only had like a 100-200 or something BTC worth of open interest so if you think the ETC move is somehow related to BMex settlement time you are mistaken imo. [2016-07-28 12:22:08] ayy_lmao : nobody said that [2016-07-28 12:22:30] Mangalica : ok then [2016-07-28 12:22:34] ayy_lmao : Just explaining why the settlement price is done the way it is [2016-07-28 12:23:15] Mangalica : got it, i didn't read back far enough [2016-07-28 12:29:58] ggwp : BitMEX_Wally: any way to show all 8 digits behind the decimal [2016-07-28 12:29:58] ggwp : ? [2016-07-28 12:33:01] rapidtrades : what 8 digits...whyyyyy [2016-07-28 12:34:19] ggwp : why not? [2016-07-28 12:37:28] ayy_lmao : for price i think [2016-07-28 13:27:07] aethlios : finex margin live for etc [2016-07-28 13:31:54] Mangalica : oh wow that was fast [2016-07-28 13:36:05] rapidtrades : did sleger show up last nite again? [2016-07-28 14:05:34] bernx : bitmex here? [2016-07-28 14:05:51] bernx : bitfinex or bittrex added margin on etc [2016-07-28 14:12:31] BitMEX_Sam : ggwp: Re: all digits, you can set all Bitcoin quantities to Satoshis via the top-right menu [2016-07-28 14:41:29] rapidtrades : sleger: sup feg [2016-07-28 15:28:58] scrawl : where can I see the last settlement price of ETC24h ? want to know what price my position was closed at [2016-07-28 15:30:30] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/settlementHistory [2016-07-28 15:30:45] scrawl : thanks! [2016-07-28 15:38:59] palgba : Hello [2016-07-28 15:39:10] palgba : is there a ETC perpetual coming in the near future ? [2016-07-28 15:39:30] palgba : 24h futures is too bad [2016-07-28 15:39:59] BitMEX_Arthur : palgba: Most likely we will turn 24H into 7D a weekly, and then evaluate after another week of trading if ETC is ready for a swap [2016-07-28 15:40:29] palgba : that would be good [2016-07-28 15:40:41] palgba : when can we see that 7d ? [2016-07-28 15:41:07] BitMEX_Arthur : palgba: Potentially tomorrow after 24H expires [2016-07-28 15:41:08] BitMEX_Arthur : at 12 UTC [2016-07-28 15:51:28] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi Arthur, why to turn it ti 7D?? vlume will go down with liquidity. keep the 24H. the longer the duration the higher the risk. what is the meaning of this change?? [2016-07-28 15:52:22] BitMEX_Arthur : What do you mean the longer the duration the higher the risk? You can exit your trades at any time [2016-07-28 15:53:07] BitMEX_Arthur : Liquidity is up multiples in the past 2 days, look at the screen [2016-07-28 15:53:16] BitMEX_Arthur : 2,000 ETC per side, spread has halved [2016-07-28 15:54:54] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: because it is 24H and expires in a few hours and you don't have to exit. if I accumulate a large 20.000 position 6 hours before expiration I can bet expiration price will be higher than my entry and just wait to expire. [2016-07-28 15:56:29] aethlios : the higher the duration of a contract the higher tje risk. MMs reduce sizes and widen spread. that's why 6month has a lower bid ask sizes and wider spreads [2016-07-28 15:57:22] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: ask the MM with the 2000 sizehow he will act if this becomes a 7D. [2016-07-28 15:59:00] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: so you see the MM increases size, which means the contracts attracts interest and you go and delist the contract?? crazy.... let it grow, [2016-07-28 16:00:38] BitMEX_Arthur : We are slowly moving towards a swap, with no expiry date [2016-07-28 16:00:45] BitMEX_Arthur : Expiry dates confuse too many people [2016-07-28 16:01:26] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: keep 24H for ETC and swap for ETH and compare how they grow as time goes by. which type traders prefer?? it is an interesting expirement. [2016-07-28 16:02:08] aethlios : BitMEX_Arthur: people will learn and become better, let they mind to sharpen [2016-07-28 16:02:39] aethlios : talk with MMs before any changes, ask their opinion. [2016-07-28 16:03:26] BitMEX_Sam : aethlios: You assume we haven't talked with them - we have [2016-07-28 16:11:26] macios15 : chinese bots are stupid lol [2016-07-28 17:04:16] nip : more factum nonsense [2016-07-28 17:04:38] nip : who is this "mm" anyway [2016-07-28 17:07:20] nip : caught in the act trying to manipulate the funding rate [2016-07-28 17:11:11] nip : also, it has been about 2 weeks of the XBTU fair basis being way off [2016-07-28 17:11:27] macios15 : dump dump incoming [2016-07-28 17:33:18] nip : please fix the xbtu16 fair basis rate before it leads to dpe [2016-07-28 17:35:14] nip : i have been asking for weeks [2016-07-28 20:14:14] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: hey guys [2016-07-28 20:14:22] haxmb : do you have rate limits per trading pair? [2016-07-28 20:14:33] haxmb : or is it global? [2016-07-28 20:15:45] justinlooking : global [2016-07-28 20:16:16] justinlooking : even across api keys i think [2016-07-28 20:18:02] justinlooking : but u can email support and will increase [2016-07-28 20:31:49] zanza : Amazon AWS killing it http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-28/amazon-smashes-expectations-cloud-profits-soar-stock-dips-then-jumps [2016-07-28 20:50:06] muirtastic : Why do the fees on the Perpetual Swap XBT bounce around so much? It makes huge swings, even in 8 or 16 hr periods [2016-07-28 20:58:43] nip : muirtastic: look at FCT fees [2016-07-28 21:07:47] BitMEX_Greg : muirtastic: The fees are always the same. The funding rate is what can change according to whether or not the contract is trading at a premium or discount: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#premium [2016-07-28 21:14:56] muirtastic : The Funding rate is on the "Fees" page though. Oh well I just don't have enough knowledge to understand how it all works. I suppose the fees are what they are and they seem to have averaged out good for me over the past two weeks, at least [2016-07-28 21:23:59] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah recently with the slow market they have been moving between + and - [2016-07-28 21:39:56] QuantFocus : is there a place to view the historical mark price of XBU16 vs. underlying spot? [2016-07-28 21:40:04] QuantFocus : it seems like there was a big adjustment downward recently... [2016-07-28 21:44:12] zanza : rapidtrades: u here? [2016-07-28 21:44:23] zanza : im looking to grab a falling knife with WTI Crude [2016-07-28 21:44:33] zanza : any comments by anyone? [2016-07-28 21:47:14] justinlooking : crack's bad mkay [2016-07-28 21:51:39] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: I am not sure if you are able to see the historical mark via API, I'll find out for you [2016-07-28 21:53:10] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks. obviously the price has declined moderately and shorter term utnil maturity, but it seems like you're calculating mark differently [2016-07-28 21:53:42] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: my unrealized changed significantly over the last 2 days, and price has been mostly stable during that period [2016-07-28 21:54:38] BitMEX_Greg : Mark price may have come more inline with where the market is trading at [2016-07-28 21:55:21] miramm1115 : QuantFocus: fair basis was changed from 75% to 65% recently, it's adjusted manually on XBTU16 [2016-07-28 21:55:59] QuantFocus : miramm1115: ty. that's kind of a bullshit move without some notification prior to making the adjustment [2016-07-28 21:56:21] QuantFocus : completely f*cked my position [2016-07-28 21:56:34] miramm1115 : it's adjusted frequently to be inline with current orderbook [2016-07-28 21:56:37] nip : yeah the manual adjustment process really messes with your margin [2016-07-28 21:56:58] nip : miramm1115: infrequently :) [2016-07-28 21:57:04] miramm1115 : it used to be adjusted manually but liquidity is too low for that [2016-07-28 21:57:13] miramm1115 : sorry, automatically [2016-07-28 21:57:38] nip : i believe this is the first manually adjusted quarterly? [2016-07-28 21:58:16] miramm1115 : nope, they switch to manual when liquidity is low then back to auto when it imrpoves [2016-07-28 21:59:53] QuantFocus : cool, so daily funding rate is ridiculously high on xbt most days, and now i'm getting worked over on the xbu adjustments too [2016-07-28 21:59:55] QuantFocus : sweet deal [2016-07-28 22:00:57] BitMEX_Sam : The expectation should clearly be that the mark price follows trading within reason [2016-07-28 22:01:21] BitMEX_Sam : Mark price adjustments don't affect your actual PNL [2016-07-28 22:01:40] QuantFocus : seems to me that longs have been severely disadvantaged on funding rate on most days, despite a relatively bearish market over the past few weeks [2016-07-28 22:02:04] BitMEX_Greg : Moreover, we can't have a situation where the market is trading at 65% and the mark is at 75% as it will affect users into a new position. [2016-07-28 22:02:21] BitMEX_Sam : XBTUSD funding rate has been effectively flat the last few days [2016-07-28 22:02:33] BitMEX_Sam : It oscillates between positive and negative and is generally a wash [2016-07-28 22:02:58] QuantFocus : i haven't done any in-depth analysis of it, but i would tend to disagree based on tertiary observation [2016-07-28 22:02:59] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: It really depends where the market is trading at, the rate is calculated purely from the orderbook [2016-07-28 22:03:11] QuantFocus : also, regarding "new positions" [2016-07-28 22:03:37] QuantFocus : i opened a new position on xbu about a week ago if i recall, and now the mark price was arbitrarily reduced to 65% from 75% [2016-07-28 22:03:46] QuantFocus : i would say that effects me pretty greatly [2016-07-28 22:04:27] BitMEX_Greg : The mark gets reduced to where the market is trading at. It doesn't affect your buying or selling price [2016-07-28 22:04:32] QuantFocus : it was nearly a 1btc swing in market value of my position [2016-07-28 22:05:05] QuantFocus : it certainly impacted my unrealized pnl, which will settle tomorrow [2016-07-28 22:05:42] BitMEX_Greg : If the market pushes the basis back up to 75%, the mark price will go back up to 75% [2016-07-28 22:05:44] QuantFocus : effectively increasing my margin utilization [2016-07-28 22:06:10] QuantFocus : well it's kind of shitty that someone can take a position that gets manually adjusted 10% within a couple of days [2016-07-28 22:06:28] muirtastic : Yes I have had a short position for the last two weeks and the funding has come out to about zero . But some big swings in there with .1% and -.1%, etc [2016-07-28 22:06:49] QuantFocus : the market is understandably thin, but automatic adjustment would at least mean that when i open a position it's not going to dramatically change assuming the price doesn't...which it hasn't over this week [2016-07-28 22:06:57] muirtastic : XBT perpetual short, I mean [2016-07-28 22:08:01] muirtastic : US customers not being allowed on BitMEX has really hurt its growth and increased liquidity. I realize though that you guys probably don't have a choice or the US gov't will launch a drone strike against you or something similar [2016-07-28 22:10:10] miramm1115 : QuantFocus: you can't really expect the mark price staying out of touch with the orderbook. with auto adjustment it would have dropped yesterday instead of today [2016-07-28 22:10:41] BitMEX_Greg : If spot is not moving, or even bearish as you stated with XBTUSD, then I imagine any long-dated futures trading at a high premium to drop more aggressively [2016-07-28 22:11:26] QuantFocus : miramm1115: and i don't [2016-07-28 22:11:59] BitMEX_Greg : muirtastic: We are still growing exponentially without US customers. Given the regulation, it is not our choice [2016-07-28 22:12:23] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: i opened my position largely favorably on 7/22. the xbt price now is actually higher than when i opened my position, yet the negative mark adjustment puts my position in the red [2016-07-28 22:12:58] QuantFocus : that just isn't logical imo [2016-07-28 22:13:05] muirtastic : Ok good to hear that BitMEX is still growing. It's certainly good for your customers, because means more liquidity and just a stronger company, I would assume. [2016-07-28 22:13:11] BitMEX_Greg : I can't account for market movements. The market determines where the market is [2016-07-28 22:13:32] QuantFocus : umm..okay? that's obvious [2016-07-28 22:14:22] QuantFocus : can you account for a negative return on a long future when the underlying instrument has increased in price? [2016-07-28 22:15:04] BitMEX_Sam : QuantFocus: Your PNL is a function of your entry price and exit price, full stop [2016-07-28 22:15:23] BitMEX_Sam : How that position is valued in the meantime is not particularly pertinent [2016-07-28 22:15:24] BitMEX_Greg : Happens all the time in my experience in Commodity markets. It's called curve flattening [2016-07-28 22:17:23] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: that's essentially an arbitrage for anyone with knowledge of the change in mark price [2016-07-28 22:17:36] BitMEX_Sam : No, it's not. The bids and asks in the market did not change [2016-07-28 22:17:50] QuantFocus : at a minimum, there should be some disclosure as to when you intend to adjust the mark [2016-07-28 22:18:18] QuantFocus : the bids and asks have certainly adjusted around the new mark... [2016-07-28 22:19:04] QuantFocus : when mark was at 75%, instrument mark price was closer to 750. now it's at 729. the market is now trading at 714 instead of 740's [2016-07-28 22:19:04] BitMEX_Sam : They have not, we have been watching that market. There has not been a change [2016-07-28 22:19:48] BitMEX_Sam : Regardless, the market determines the price, not the mark price. Any movement in the bid/ask after a mark price adjustment is coincidental [2016-07-28 22:20:15] QuantFocus : but of course the market adjusts around the mark price, which determines purchasing at a discount or premium [2016-07-28 22:20:20] QuantFocus : how is that coincidental? [2016-07-28 22:20:33] QuantFocus : it's a direct result of a change in mark [2016-07-28 22:21:02] QuantFocus : particularly when you have market makers whose purpose is to reduce the spread and trade around mark [2016-07-28 22:21:10] BitMEX_Sam : I can tell you that with confidence because that is the very reason the mark was adjusted, because it was well outside the spread [2016-07-28 22:21:48] BitMEX_Sam : The tail does not wag the dog. [2016-07-28 22:21:51] QuantFocus : okay, but my point is that without automatic, or regular manual adjustment, it's a disservice to your customers [2016-07-28 22:22:04] BitMEX_Sam : It's automatic on every other contract. It will be automatic again on XBTU if there is liquidity to support it [2016-07-28 22:22:13] BitMEX_Sam : Right now there is not. When there is, we will switch it back to being automatic [2016-07-28 22:22:31] QuantFocus : if i had indication that you were adjusting the mark downward within 5 days, i would have waited to open my position [2016-07-28 22:22:45] BitMEX_Sam : I'm not sure I'm understanding your issue [2016-07-28 22:22:50] BitMEX_Sam : The mark price does not affect your actual PNL [2016-07-28 22:23:11] BitMEX_Sam : Nor does it affect the bids and asks users place - they determine the price themselves [2016-07-28 22:23:31] QuantFocus : i entered a position based on where the market was trading, which was based largely on the current mark price. that price was subsequently reduced shortly after opening my position [2016-07-28 22:23:44] QuantFocus : the market subsequently adjusted bid/ask around the new mark, which caused a loss for me [2016-07-28 22:24:20] BitMEX_Greg : Your loss is a paper loss.. how are you going to realise it when the market is not trading at mark? [2016-07-28 22:24:23] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: the mark absolutely has a direct impact on bid/asks [2016-07-28 22:25:03] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: again, if I had known that there was going to be a downward adjustment in mark, i would simply have waited to open a position. that's clear logic [2016-07-28 22:25:14] QuantFocus : that's information i didn't have. [2016-07-28 22:25:55] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: also, i'll most likely be waiting for final settlement in september, but in either case, if i had known about the downward adjustment, my profit could be that much higher [2016-07-28 22:26:04] BitMEX_Greg : The mark price moves, its not static. It has to move where market is moving. Unfortunately the contract right now is illiquid which requires manual smoothing [2016-07-28 22:26:36] QuantFocus : but how do you inform customers of your intended movement, in both amount and timing? [2016-07-28 22:26:36] BitMEX_Greg : Your profit has nothing to do with the mark price [2016-07-28 22:26:46] BitMEX_Greg : It has to do with where you entered and exited [2016-07-28 22:26:49] QuantFocus : you guys keep saying that, and it's dead wrong [2016-07-28 22:27:14] QuantFocus : right, so when mark gets adjusted downward and i want to exit a position, where do you think it will be trading? [2016-07-28 22:27:19] QuantFocus : lower [2016-07-28 22:27:27] QuantFocus : which means it does effect my pnl [2016-07-28 22:28:10] BitMEX_Greg : Well it market moves up and you want to exit then you can exit at a higher price.. [2016-07-28 22:28:23] BitMEX_Greg : We can't predict the future, we are not adjusting mark to where we think the market will go [2016-07-28 22:28:33] BitMEX_Greg : the mark is adjusted according to where the market trades at [2016-07-28 22:28:46] QuantFocus : ...again [2016-07-28 22:28:50] BitMEX_Greg : It's done ex-post [2016-07-28 22:29:01] QuantFocus : the position i opened was on 7/22. the market has been flat or up from there [2016-07-28 22:29:11] BitMEX_Greg : Yes, the curve has flattened [2016-07-28 22:29:18] QuantFocus : so please explain how during that week the mark got adjusted so significantly downward [2016-07-28 22:29:39] BitMEX_Greg : Happens because the market thinks that steam is running out [2016-07-28 22:29:40] QuantFocus : by 10%? that much flattening eh? [2016-07-28 22:29:59] QuantFocus : and how do you all make that determination? [2016-07-28 22:30:01] BitMEX_Greg : This is bitcoin, bigger moves have occurred in 1/1000th of that time [2016-07-28 22:30:21] BitMEX_Greg : I'm making a logical assumption based on what is happening with Bitcoin right now [2016-07-28 22:30:31] BitMEX_Greg : it may be correct, but thats the way I see it [2016-07-28 22:30:50] BitMEX_Greg : But the mark was not adjusted according to my assumption. It was adjusted to where the market was trading [2016-07-28 22:31:06] QuantFocus : i'm not really interested in opinion here. i need to know how your system works so i don't lose money on a position that technically should have gained [2016-07-28 22:31:27] lockhedge : QuantFocus: i agree that manual adjustment is the worst marking method, but i doubt that adjustments influence the market. it would not make sense for market makers to adjust the price based on this manually adjusted mark price. [2016-07-28 22:31:28] QuantFocus : but the lag in your adjustment time f*cked me [2016-07-28 22:31:54] BitMEX_Greg : We probably have the most thorough walkthroughs and FAQs of all Bitcoin exchanges [2016-07-28 22:32:18] BitMEX_Greg : I encourage you to read it, otherwise you can play around on testnet.bitmex.com [2016-07-28 22:32:57] QuantFocus : do you have records of the fair basis rate on this contract? [2016-07-28 22:33:09] BitMEX_Greg : I will need to find out from Wally when he's online [2016-07-28 22:33:11] QuantFocus : and when adjustments were made? [2016-07-28 22:33:26] BitMEX_Greg : Again, I need to ask Wally. All i know that it was sometime earlier today [2016-07-28 22:33:38] QuantFocus : are they made at regular intervals? [2016-07-28 22:33:50] BitMEX_Sam : QuantFocus: The basis adjustment was made today at 17:45 UTC [2016-07-28 22:34:05] BitMEX_Sam : at that time the bid/ask was 716.51/725 [2016-07-28 22:34:20] BitMEX_Sam : The basis adjustment has not affected the market. [2016-07-28 22:34:42] QuantFocus : so are they made at regular intervals/ [2016-07-28 22:34:55] QuantFocus : and is there some type of indicative adjustment listed somewhere? [2016-07-28 22:35:02] BitMEX_Sam : No, they are made as needed. XBTU is an exception to our usual policy due to its illiquidity [2016-07-28 22:35:20] QuantFocus : can you see how it's difficult to trade around that? [2016-07-28 22:35:53] BitMEX_Greg : I understand your difficulty, but in fact the move was made because of where the market was, not the other way around [2016-07-28 22:35:55] BitMEX_Sam : If you accept that small changes in the basis used for mark price do not affect the market, then no, i do not see the issue [2016-07-28 22:36:08] BitMEX_Sam : In this case it did not affect the market, and it has not in previous adjustments as well [2016-07-28 22:41:32] miramm1115 : I can assure that my MM doesn't look at mark price on XBTU16 when quoting. It's quoting lower bc ppl were selling a lot [2016-07-28 22:44:44] miramm1115 : I don't think there are any bots that look at mark price, and current quotes are not affected by the mark price. It's the other way around like Sam siad [2016-07-28 22:44:48] miramm1115 : *said [2016-07-28 22:44:54] BitMEX_Sam : It's not even quoting lower since the change, the ask has been at 725 since well before then [2016-07-28 22:45:56] miramm1115 : 89 is not mine but yeah, no changes since adjustemnt [2016-07-28 22:46:29] QuantFocus : what was the mark price pre-adjustment? [2016-07-28 22:48:04] miramm1115 : around 735 [2016-07-28 22:48:21] miramm1115 : a bit higher [2016-07-28 22:50:06] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: and when was the new mark price determined? right at 17:45, or earlier? [2016-07-28 22:50:28] BitMEX_Sam : Right at that time [2016-07-28 22:51:50] miramm1115 : mark is still a bit too high compared to market tbh, should be around 720 [2016-07-28 23:00:44] sleger : sounds like someone doesnt want to stop loss someone else [2016-07-28 23:09:05] sleger : ok that lounge has the worst internet ever, just going to board and sip champagne through the flight to Paris. [2016-07-28 23:09:42] sleger : rapidtrades: good to see you too, what's a "feg" ? [2016-07-28 23:11:15] nip : sleger: agree [2016-07-28 23:37:28] aethlios : sleger: Hello, are you back trading here again?? I will meet you to the order book. [2016-07-28 23:54:57] zanza : did anyone see that Yen action? rapidtrades [2016-07-29 00:27:24] nip : well at least factum is going the right direction [2016-07-29 00:31:54] laisee : nip: whats the story on Factom? anyine using it? [2016-07-29 01:13:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 5205 @ 0.002506 [2016-07-29 01:14:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC24H`: Sell 40 @ 0.002502 [2016-07-29 01:14:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 400 @ 0.01933 [2016-07-29 01:16:03] nip : laisee: your not using factums? [2016-07-29 01:16:41] nip : its number 3 on polo [2016-07-29 02:12:06] jesperf : china is emptying its morning bowels [2016-07-29 02:31:41] laisee : nip: winder if FCT real-world use has taken off [2016-07-29 02:53:06] mughat : I have a request for an option to short STEEM [2016-07-29 02:53:37] mughat : Are there any plans for supporting STEEM and baybe SBD? [2016-07-29 02:53:43] mughat : maybe* [2016-07-29 02:55:33] BitMEX_Greg : mughat: We want to ensure that the primary market for the altcoin is liquid enough to justify a derivative on it [2016-07-29 03:24:46] Rado : mughat: which means NO :-) [2016-07-29 03:25:14] Rado : why do you want to trade STEEM? [2016-07-29 03:25:35] Rado : BTC, ETH, ETC are the way to make money [2016-07-29 03:25:39] mughat : Ultimatly for profits [2016-07-29 03:25:43] Rado : unless you don't want to make money [2016-07-29 03:26:06] Rado : how is STEEM going to help you make profits? [2016-07-29 03:26:07] mughat : There is a lot of irrationality in the markets around steem [2016-07-29 03:26:18] mughat : That is where the money is [2016-07-29 03:26:27] Rado : and not with ETH? [2016-07-29 03:27:22] Rado : ETH has 50x more volume than STEEM [2016-07-29 04:36:57] rapidtrades : NO COPTER CASH FOR YOU! [2016-07-29 05:03:41] bernx : BitMEX_Greg: somone from mods say they will incrace etc leverage if some exchange add margin. bitfinex add [2016-07-29 05:08:39] BitMEX_Arthur : bernx: Yes `ETC7D` will list at 12:00 UTC [2016-07-29 05:08:44] BitMEX_Arthur : Leverage will be doubled to 10x [2016-07-29 05:14:36] bernx : sweet [2016-07-29 05:28:56] rapidtrades : ABE IS NOT PLEASED [2016-07-29 05:31:49] zanza : did you see the Yen spike 200 pip earlier rapidtrades ? [2016-07-29 05:39:28] ayy_lmao : oh shit [2016-07-29 05:39:28] ayy_lmao : 10x [2016-07-29 05:39:30] ayy_lmao : for 10x the rekt [2016-07-29 05:48:37] BitMEX_Wally : `ETC7D`with 10x leverage will start trading after `ETC24H` expires in 6 hours: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/ETC7D [2016-07-29 05:51:38] ayy_lmao : @BitMEX_Wally : http://imgur.com/gallery/7lZwLKc [2016-07-29 05:52:37] BitMEX_Wally :  [2016-07-29 05:53:16] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-07-29 06:03:51] bernx : eth volume @ polo just a big joke lol [2016-07-29 06:04:22] bernx : 13.5k btc 24 hour with 2.5 margin [2016-07-29 06:04:31] bernx : etc 41 without [2016-07-29 06:46:13] rapidtrades : zanza: yea i did [2016-07-29 06:49:24] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: @BitMEX_Wally: is there a separate rate limit for different pairs? [2016-07-29 06:49:51] haxmb : because i'd like to add ETC7D but i'm already running into limits sometimes with XBT and ETH enabled [2016-07-29 06:54:08] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: what is the error you are receiving [2016-07-29 06:56:50] NickBit : How do I select ETC7D [2016-07-29 07:01:05] BitMEX_Wally : NickBit: It's not open for trading yet. It will appear in 5 hours [2016-07-29 07:01:20] haxmb : BitMEX_Arthur: used to sometimes get errors [2016-07-29 07:01:34] haxmb : just wondering if i'll get them back if I add more pairs [2016-07-29 07:04:54] BitMEX_Wally : haxmb: Rate limit errors? [2016-07-29 07:07:56] BitMEX_Wally : haxmb: I have just increased your rate limit from 300 to 900 calls per 5 minutes. So you shouldn't have this problem again [2016-07-29 07:26:38] haxmb : BitMEX_Wally: cheers [2016-07-29 07:28:01] haxmb : ETC7D is launching in 4h30? [2016-07-29 07:40:18] BitMEX_Arthur : haxmb: yes appx [2016-07-29 07:41:52] haxmb : cool [2016-07-29 07:44:23] Mm bot : BitMEX_Arthur: u guys should do more marketing to gain more adaption [2016-07-29 07:45:55] BitMEX_Arthur : Mm bot: We are in the process of finalising our Chinese language site and building our support and marketing team so we are excited for 2H16 [2016-07-29 08:17:19] bernx : Polo troll box knowing about bitmexz a little [2016-07-29 09:19:42] Mm bot : BitMEX_Arthur: This is such a great platform, deserve more exposure and liquidity [2016-07-29 10:23:39] bernx : BitMEX_Arthur: how long before x10? [2016-07-29 10:23:46] bernx : *how much time [2016-07-29 10:25:00] BitMEX_Arthur : 90 minutes [2016-07-29 10:26:09] rapidtrades : this post-BOJ reaction demonstrates why fundamental trading is BS [2016-07-29 10:27:04] rapidtrades : market rallied for weeks on copter cash, didn't get any increase in monetary base and yen is still 500 pips above where it was pre-copter cash [2016-07-29 10:27:29] rapidtrades : ok 350 pips on u/j [2016-07-29 11:17:49] BagHolder : hi [2016-07-29 11:18:17] BagHolder : so from now on 40 min to x10 ETC? [2016-07-29 11:19:06] ayy_lmao : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2016-07-29 11:19:31] BitMEX_Wally : Yes [2016-07-29 11:27:43] NukeLaloosh : rapidtrades: you don't think boj is selling? [2016-07-29 11:38:19] rapidtrades : probably not [2016-07-29 11:43:41] bernx : what is boj? [2016-07-29 11:45:34] justinlooking : japan's central bank [2016-07-29 11:47:29] nip : come on factums moon! [2016-07-29 11:57:57] rapidtrades : anyone bought skype credit with bitcoin? what did u use [2016-07-29 12:02:29] ayy_lmao : i hope this weekly is just as liquid as teh 24h [2016-07-29 12:02:34] ayy_lmao : for ect [2016-07-29 12:04:22] ayy_lmao : @ @BitMEX_Wally : no way you could have ported the 24hr chart to the 7d? [2016-07-29 12:04:22] BitMEX_Wally : ETC7D with 10x is live: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ETC7D [2016-07-29 12:04:32] BitMEX_Wally : ayy_lmao: I'm going to port the chart [2016-07-29 12:04:35] ayy_lmao : nice [2016-07-29 12:24:35] BitMEX_Wally : History is there now [2016-07-29 12:28:44] micmix : how long before the first REKT on ETC7D? place your bets here ;-) [2016-07-29 12:32:59] bernx : I'm ready for be rekted [2016-07-29 12:54:42] justinlooking : ooh didn't notice this on tradeblock: http://anony.ws/image/NN3O [2016-07-29 13:03:10] steam.machine : @BitMEX_Wally: I had some issues with my email provider and had to retry withdrawal several times. The last one was successful. Will it be included in today's batch? [2016-07-29 13:05:29] BitMEX_Wally : steam.machine: It was confirmed 3 minutes too late [2016-07-29 13:05:39] BitMEX_Wally : Let me see if I can process it now [2016-07-29 13:07:11] steam.machine : thank you [2016-07-29 13:14:50] Jianbin : Hello there [2016-07-29 13:15:02] Jianbin : I have initiate an withdraw yesterday [2016-07-29 13:15:15] Jianbin : But I havn't received it yet. [2016-07-29 13:15:21] Jianbin : Is it normal ? [2016-07-29 13:16:44] ayy_lmao : yes [2016-07-29 13:16:54] BitMEX_Wally : Jianbin: Let me check for you [2016-07-29 13:17:22] Jianbin : thank you [2016-07-29 13:17:52] BitMEX_Wally : Jianbin: Your withdrawal has been broadcast [2016-07-29 13:17:54] BitMEX_Wally : steam.machine: Yours too [2016-07-29 13:18:08] BitMEX_Wally : Withdrawals are processed every day at 13:00 UTC which is 21:00 CST [2016-07-29 13:19:11] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: you sure ? [2016-07-29 13:19:23] steam.machine : thanks a lot :) [2016-07-29 13:19:24] sleger : don't forget I'm a visionary [2016-07-29 13:19:43] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Sure about what? :) [2016-07-29 13:19:52] sleger : "Withdrawals are processed every day at 13:00 UTC which is 21:00 CST" [2016-07-29 13:19:58] BitMEX_Wally : China Standard Time [2016-07-29 13:20:23] sleger : cst is central standard time, but I see what you meant [2016-07-29 13:21:25] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: CST is also China Standard Time, and we don't allow US customers... [2016-07-29 13:21:36] sleger : no but you allow timezones [2016-07-29 13:22:16] BitMEX_Wally : I should probably say Heure Normale du Centre [2016-07-29 13:22:32] sleger : or heure normale de chine [2016-07-29 13:22:39] sleger : apparently [2016-07-29 13:22:51] BitMEX_Wally : Next time I'll just say HKT [2016-07-29 13:22:53] BitMEX_Wally : Which is where most of us are [2016-07-29 13:23:41] Jianbin : So has has been 20 min [2016-07-29 13:24:23] bernx : etc reckts soon [2016-07-29 13:24:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 8 @ 0.00240 [2016-07-29 13:24:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 95 @ 0.00237 [2016-07-29 13:24:36] nip : looks like factums announced a huge partnership [2016-07-29 13:24:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 2800 @ 0.00236 [2016-07-29 13:24:37] BitMEX_Wally : Jianbin: Your transaction was broadcast to the network 10 minutes ago. It should be confirmed in the next block [2016-07-29 13:24:41] ayy_lmao : that was fast [2016-07-29 13:24:59] ayy_lmao : lol [2016-07-29 13:29:18] BitMEX_Wally : Although you put a lower fee on the tx so it might take longer... [2016-07-29 13:34:45] jesperf : bitcoin trading volumes has really stagnated since eth got a twin bastard brother [2016-07-29 13:35:37] jesperf : maybe not so much the chinese volumes [2016-07-29 13:44:10] johndoe : yah, ETC has been a lot of fun, but it'll dissipate a lot over the next month. All of this does help show BTC's stability/consistency though. [2016-07-29 13:45:14] justinlooking : jd u getting into a big short with a hidden order here? [2016-07-29 13:45:22] justinlooking : (XBTUSD) [2016-07-29 13:46:29] nip : justinlooking: that was me [2016-07-29 13:46:31] johndoe : no, i'm just steadily long xbtusd for the last week or so [2016-07-29 13:47:37] johndoe : been doing all of discretionary trading with ETC - love the volatility and pump-and-dump a few days ago [2016-07-29 13:51:31] justinlooking : nip: respect [2016-07-29 13:55:18] justinlooking : johndoe: yeh etc has been awesome, wish i had gotten stuck in earlier [2016-07-29 14:00:46] johndoe : yeah, that one day when it 500 or so was the most crazy trading i'd ever seen, and i've traded a lot of different non-crypto markets. [2016-07-29 14:01:36] johndoe : currently short 500 ETC. i think ETC has very little future personally [2016-07-29 14:03:36] nip : i bought it as a hedge [2016-07-29 14:04:18] johndoe : yeah, that makes sense to avoid the risks. [2016-07-29 14:05:07] nip : not a full hedge im long more eth than etc [2016-07-29 14:05:21] johndoe : i like ETH a lot, but i'm mostly in XBT. [2016-07-29 14:26:12] rapidtrades : sleger: how's it going bumchum? [2016-07-29 14:29:35] nip : rapidtrades: jiw [2016-07-29 14:31:03] rapidtrades : yuan much stronger past few days...bit surprising it hasn't been reflecting in BTC yet [2016-07-29 14:31:33] bernx : anyone know wtf with eth and etc? [2016-07-29 14:31:37] bernx : both are die [2016-07-29 14:31:54] nip : eth isnt that bad [2016-07-29 14:32:14] nip : and etcs were all given out for free.. [2016-07-29 14:32:19] rapidtrades : eth is an imposter and need s to die [2016-07-29 14:32:21] bernx : but still no volume/ no good news/ stagnate [2016-07-29 14:32:51] nip : rapidtrades: what do you think of factums? [2016-07-29 14:33:04] nip : just announced a major partnetship to provide financial records [2016-07-29 14:33:14] rapidtrades : never heard of i [2016-07-29 14:33:20] rapidtrades : t [2016-07-29 14:33:33] nip : its 3 on polo and traded here for a long time [2016-07-29 14:33:38] nip : behind etc and eth [2016-07-29 14:34:34] rapidtrades : coool [2016-07-29 14:35:30] bernx : fct was about 400 [2016-07-29 14:35:42] bernx : was manipulated befire HF is out [2016-07-29 14:38:30] rapidtrades : 400 what? [2016-07-29 14:47:23] wotan : wild beast block (wbb) and shift imo best undervalued longterm picks in crypto now [2016-07-29 14:47:48] wotan : wbb for example released a decentraliced crypto os soon there will be a completely new crypto wallet that never seen before [2016-07-29 14:48:17] wotan : shift working on a fully decentraliced environment and implementing zeronet infastruccture to their system [2016-07-29 14:48:33] wotan : those are longterm coins to hold good luck with etc hehe [2016-07-29 14:59:14] BagHolder : uhg i gonna invest my profits there then [2016-07-29 15:48:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.00249 [2016-07-29 20:01:36] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCTXBT`: Sell 1500 @ 0.002614 [2016-07-29 20:03:20] nip : come on factum hold [2016-07-29 20:21:18] irbbqu : How many conf for deposits? [2016-07-29 20:22:37] justinlooking : 1 [2016-07-29 20:23:18] justinlooking : but sometimes some safety mechanism triggers that requires manual intervention, when their ISVs fuck up [2016-07-29 20:36:58] justinlooking : a buttload of volume in last 5 mins in etc on polo [2016-07-29 20:38:48] justinlooking : scratch that. shitty fuckin chart [2016-07-29 21:07:58] BitMEX_Sam : We've had blockchain data providers screw up in the past, but we have an additional redundant provider now that helps significantly [2016-07-29 21:08:19] BitMEX_Sam : I see your deposit confirmed about 20 minutes ago. [2016-07-30 00:49:12] lockhedge : Vitalik on the Ethereum Foundation's assets: "We have ~1.1m ETH net (the wallet still contains a bit of unclaimed premine) plus ~750 btc and ~$2.7m in bank accounts" https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v465q/ethereum_foundation_transparency/ [2016-07-30 00:50:06] lockhedge : they sold half of their ETH assets (1.1m) since January [2016-07-30 00:51:29] rapidtrades : wow [2016-07-30 00:51:44] rapidtrades : lockhedge: so they were selling not buying? [2016-07-30 00:52:13] rapidtrades : i guess this is for the foundation not individula members tho....they prolly mined a f*ckton [2016-07-30 01:02:52] lockhedge : they spend around $3m for developers and other staff per year, most of them are paid in fiat currencies [2016-07-30 01:10:46] rapidtrades : to me it looks like they manipulate eth [2016-07-30 01:11:01] rapidtrades : their hard fork just confirms by suspicion [2016-07-30 01:12:07] rapidtrades : my suspicion [2016-07-30 01:12:47] rapidtrades : dam usd/cnh down to 6.62 [2016-07-30 01:13:08] rapidtrades : barely any reaction in bitcoin [2016-07-30 01:15:11] rapidtrades : guess the link only matters when yuan is weakening? lol [2016-07-30 01:15:48] rapidtrades : 'I'll have my cake and eat it too' chinese miners [2016-07-30 02:10:42] dasdfasdf : Why does adding margin fail when trying to use whole balance? [2016-07-30 02:23:35] bernx : Barry Silbert twitt about Bitmex [2016-07-30 02:36:54] kingscrown : nice [2016-07-30 02:48:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 4 @ 0.002551 :punch: :whale: [2016-07-30 02:49:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 100 @ 0.002557 [2016-07-30 02:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: Buy 30 @ 0.002568 [2016-07-30 04:23:57] zanza : rapidtrades: you been playing YEN ? [2016-07-30 05:10:12] bernx : Some guys say there is x100 btc [2016-07-30 05:10:14] bernx : where is? [2016-07-30 05:14:19] lockhedge : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBJ24H [2016-07-30 12:22:53] justinlooking : support: why do the realised pnl values jump around in "expired positions" every 10 seconds or so? it's very odd... [2016-07-30 12:25:33] justinlooking : the XBTV15/Z15/H16 mark prices are still moving. but XBTM16 is not [2016-07-30 13:20:10] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: Are you seeing the mark prices and realised PNL values change, or the order of the rows change? [2016-07-30 13:20:40] BitMEX_Wally : Once an instrument has settled the position data does not change [2016-07-30 13:20:50] justinlooking : oh it's the order of the rows, sorry [2016-07-30 13:21:47] BitMEX_Wally : Might be something to do with how the position table handles updates. We'll investigate [2016-07-30 16:52:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: Sell 250 @ 67122.0 [2016-07-30 17:28:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1863 @ 0.002386 [2016-07-30 19:46:45] justinlooking : also wally, instruments in "Closed Positions" shows -- in the realised realised pnl. is that intended? [2016-07-30 23:07:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: Sell 1300 @ 0.002371 [2016-07-30 23:20:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 2 @ 0.01907 :punch: :whale: [2016-07-30 23:21:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETHXBT`: Sell 24 @ 0.01905 [2016-07-31 02:09:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 302 @ 650.25 [2016-07-31 02:09:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 600 @ 648.92 [2016-07-31 02:10:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13001 @ 648.29 [2016-07-31 02:10:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 38000 @ 648.00 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-07-31 02:10:57] REKT : Blood on the streets! [2016-07-31 02:10:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 400 @ 647.87 [2016-07-31 02:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 36561 @ 647.62 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2016-07-31 02:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 3700 @ 647.77 [2016-07-31 02:11:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 152 @ 647.55 [2016-07-31 02:11:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 1 @ 646.96 :punch: :whale: [2016-07-31 02:11:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 13000 @ 645.83 [2016-07-31 02:11:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 797 @ 645.32 [2016-07-31 02:11:18] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: Sell 6500 @ 645.30